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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, Hi there, Detroit's wheels.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hey, what's up. This is Chris from Trapped, Chris, Chris Brown.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's Doug Podell, buddy put up.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Man's good to hear from you.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
It's good to hear from you too, and thanks for
checking in. We've got Chris from the band Trapped on
the line today on the WLLZ.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Rock Dock podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
And Chris, I guess you're coming to town here June
the eighth at the Token Lounge. We've been talking this
one up pretty good over there in Westland because you're
going to be doing an all acoustics set this time
when you hit Detroit. Have you ever done an acoustic
set like this before?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, you know, we started doing the acoustic thing in
twenty seventeen. Oh wow, twenty eighteen. Okay, yeah, we did
a little bit in early twenty twenty three, but this is, yeah,
definitely the biggest. Like, like you know, we're just kind of
mostly doing the intimate, stripped down, unplugged thing, you know,
most of this year. There's a few electric shows here
(00:58):
and there, like festivals and stuff, but yeah, we're just
we just want to do the intimate thing, be able
to hang out bands after the show. It's it's real nice.
We really enjoy it doing it.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, I could. I can imagine that.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm trying to think back of all the times I've
seen you, and I've never seen you acoustic.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I can be sure of that, but I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm trying to figure out how all these songs work acoustically.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Did you have to go through the set.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
List and you know, like say, well, this one's in,
but you know this one's definitely out. I mean, how
do you how do you go about picking what songs
you're playing?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
We you know, we we come up with our songs
on acoustic guitar. Most of the time. That's what inspires
a song. Like if you can, you know, sit around
on a couch and just mess around, and you know,
you find something, usually you can turn that into a
pretty cool rock song, you know, And that's It's like
the way we kind of like talk about this tour
(01:56):
is just like this is like how these songs kind
of came about. You know. It's just easier to get
in a room and flush the song out when you're
just doing acoustic instruments and you can hear what's going
on more and then you can rock it out after
you know, you get you know, someone down. But yeah,
you know it's amazing to be able to just strip
it down and then just having the crowd really take over.
As far as singing, you know, they're just sings so loud.
(02:18):
It's like singing like here in a choir, you know,
singing along with us. So it's just it's super fun.
And you know, like I said, we get to meet
everybody and hang out. You know, it's just a it's
cool experience.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
So you do like a little meet and greet after
do you do like a Q and a in between
with the songs and storytelling?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
You know, definitely definitely talking about you know, it's just
like that kind of vibe where it lends itself to
just talking about where a song came from or it's
inspiration behind the songs. So definitely a lot of that happened.
So people are going to be able to hear about
their favorite song and a little bit more in depth
than they ever do before.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
So is this going to be the tour for the
whole twenty twenty five basically acoustic or are you just
hitting you know, certain market it's and uh and doing
acoustic and then do you have festivals and things like
that plan for other months of the year.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, we did February twenty fifth to April twenty seventh.
We had a few weeks off and like in the
middle of that, but those were that was probably you know,
close to forty shows. And then this run around now
starts tomorrow Prapfield, Alabama, and and then you know, we
end up in Jonesbor, Arkansas on June fifteenth, so you know,
(03:32):
another probably fifteen shows or so. You know, So we're
just going to keep trucking and you know, that's the
first half and we're pretty much gonna do the same
kind of thing the second half of more of the
Midwest or more of the west of the country, you know,
all the way to the West coast.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
So ex good times.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah. So who's all with you now? Because I know.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
That you guys are gone through a few changes over
the years, but you're the one constant for sure. Uh
maybe more who else?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, our basic with Peter Churow and he uh I
played third grade baseball with that guy. I've known him forever. Yeah,
And Sean our guitar players. He's just a great guy.
We've been he's been with us for about four years
five years now, yeah, four years, and then our drummer Mitch,
he's done with us for five years. So it's just yeah,
we got a first line up for Leicester four five years.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Pretty pretty much the same band that you had when
you played here at the Token Then what was that
a couple of years ago?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I think I was probably twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Huh wow, we're that long.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, been that long?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
All right? So what have you been doing since that?
You've been writing some new stuff? Uh? I know you've
a stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, we're we're put a new record out middle last
year called The Fall, and then we have a new
record that we're going to be working on, probably finish
it next year and get that out early twenty twenty seven,
and we do our twenty fifth An Richard tour. So yeah,
i'd love.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
To look fortune what you guys twenty five years already?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Man, that is crazy. That's crazy, isn't it? Chris?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, I remember when I first met you guys. I
think I first met you. It might have been what
ninety seven, ninety eight something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
No, I was like two thousand and two or three,
probably two two thousand and two when when we would
have first met with Headstrong with the radio and all
that this stuff with like October of two thousand and two. Yeah,
so Headstrong High School in nineteen ninety six, nineteen oh
oh okay, yeah right, I was like fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Well, you know, the years get a little blurry for me,
but oh yeah, you know, Headstrong is such a great tune.
We still play the Jesus side of this thing.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Every single have a sound like that for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I mean bands, I mean there are a lot of
bands that would love to have one big hit like that,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, we just played Ocean or the Boardwalk Rock in
Ocean City, Maryland. It was a bunch of you know,
big bands Alice Cooper and Shined Down and Nickelback just
you know, three of his greatest bunch bands. But yeah,
they were a great crowd. You know that that's only
definitely rocked. You know, you played that one probably second
last or third or less thing like that, but yeah,
(06:25):
it was pretty fun.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
So Chris take can you take me back to the
origins of Headstrong, because it really is the one that
put you on the map.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Where where did Yeah, first we put out for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Where was the inspiration for that?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And and what was the studio like at the time
when you went in the record company, I mean were
they we we.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Uh we got that we made that like a demo,
and we were you know, had labels talking to us.
When we had just you know, still frame and and
made of glass and when all maybe one more I
don't know what it was, but yeah, uh we made
we had you know, a few labels talking to us.
And then we made another demo and that one included
(07:09):
Headstrong On and so that one definitely got a bunch
of labels excited, you know, ended up signing with Warm
Brothers and then doing the record. You know that you
hear that you that you know, you're not the demo,
but a lot of fans like some they have they
heard that demo that either get married to the to
the demo, you know, but it's like when we hear it,
(07:29):
we're just like, nah, it's gotta be the version that
we spent you know, months months crafting, you know, but yeah,
you know that song. It was just like we were
working with this producer he uh name is Jim Wirt
and he produced the Incubish Science record and uh a
(07:49):
bunch of a bunch of good records. But we uh
we definitely uh we we had like a thing going
We're doing demos and stuff. But he like did a
deal with Electra Records. It's like a demo thing, you know.
He was going to do a and R for that
or something, and he wanted to do like a demo
deal with us, and I was like, nah, I don't
(08:11):
think that. You know. It's like there's this kind of
thing where you do like a few songs and the
late the laywell fifty days to decide if they like
it or not, and if if they don't like it,
it's like everyone else won't like it. You know, they'll
be like, well, yeah, obviously if they thought it was fact,
you know, it's like, you know, it's just weird head
works like that. But so we didn't do that, you know,
(08:33):
and that was before we had a headstrong so we
uh that's obviously what he kind of like sparked that
was like, you know, I won't I'm not going to
do that. I'm not going to go your way, you know.
But we we He was gotten mad about that for
sure for a few years, but we made up like
two thousand and six, So everything's all good now.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, that song, I think it's going to be around
with us for a long long time. So I'm glad
you didn't give anybody, you know, any incentive to wrap
their hands around that thing and steal it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
No, man, it's it's been. It's just a blessing for sure. Man.
It's just you know, things, we're weird how things work out,
and uh as we're just lucky to be doing what
we're doing for a living. It's a cool job.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Was that like a song that you you know, knew
right away or was that something that like everybody else said, hey,
this is the one?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Uh you know. It's funny because like the label, like
the radio guys were like echo is the song?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
You know, Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, And and then there's other guys going, no, you
can't go with like the Mortibaldy song. First, you weren't
ever anywhere to go after that. We got to go
with either Headstrong or Still Frames. So the company was
really divided on like which one should be. And then
ultimately the CEO, Tom Wallly just he's just like, you know,
I signed that band because it was because the Headstrong
(09:49):
on that demo, so let's go headstrong. It was like
great choice.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well yeah, so many great songs.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's it's their choice, right, yeah, up to the band
because it's like it's just the consensus of what the
label wants to have the machine get behind, you know.
And it was even it was a slow build too,
so you know, they started with a few stations, see
if they work there, and then it just kept going. Yeah,
So it was just it's cool.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It is kind of scary when you got to hand
over all of your hard work and then just let
somebody else go.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I think we're gonna go.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
We've got to make a great record, I think, you know.
So like anything that you put out, you should put
your best foot forward, you know, and like just pick one,
pick whatever you want and go it's your money. You know.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Well you had three you had three A sides essentially
they're really so.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, yeah, it's cool man, it's definitely you know. And
then just like the last twelve years, we've just been
doing everything ourselves, are independent, you know, and not you know,
just have a distributor or on our own label, all
that kind of good stuff and just tour and we
want to tour, and you know, there's no like we
have to There's nobody likes saying you've got to make
(11:01):
another record, you got to go to another tour, you know,
so we kind of just like can make our own
schedule and so it's pretty nice.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, it seems the way of the world these days.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
So when people hear the demo version, is that kind
of the version that you do of headshong when you
do it acoustically.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
No, No, the demo was like, you know, like it
was just was more like raw, more more sloppy, you know,
you know, it was like it was done in days,
whereas you know, we spent weeks on the songs on
our first out. You know, yeah, there's major label.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So are you adding new songs to this set that
maybe you haven't played in Detroit since it's been like
forever since you've been here.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, we dropped a new album made last years. Yeah,
so we're definitely gonna do a couple of songs from that.
You do a few songs for most of our albums,
you know, a lot of the you know, just the
our fan favorite. You know, we been able to just
figure out, like, really, what the top twenty songs like
trap fans want to hear, so we're able to just
(12:09):
kind of recycle through that and usually play them most
of them. So it's a yeah, you got a lot
as songs we can choose from.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, doing doing an acoustic set does give you a
little wiggle room right to uh, you know, do some
things that you haven't done, you know, electric and yeah,
let the fans enjoy the band and the.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, it's a it's a really cool you know, just
the vibe you know, like it's just it's such an
intimate like just being able to hear the audience. They
can hear us really well, and it's just like you
you just feel really close to the to the audience
and and the and what they feel real close to
you and you can just you can just feel it.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, with that sound system mat the Token lounge, that's
kind to be a beautiful thing for you. Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, everybody can hear it really really well. Yeah, it's
pretty cool, and it's just made us better musicians. Like
you know, when we go back and do the electric show,
it's just that I was tighter. But you know, it's
just like you have to you have to up your
your musicianship with acoustic because you can't hide anything.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
That's a true.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, you can't hide anything with distortion or you know,
symbols crashes.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Right, So I can't say, hey, my my amp's not
working right now.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
No, no, yeah, we just have you know, acoustic guitars
and bass and our drummer plays on the cahoon that
he sits off, bangs on it, and it's just it's
a perfect sound for what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Well, You've got a great fan base here in Detroit.
It just continues to grow.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Every time I see you.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
It's sold out at the Token Lounge and it's always
a pleasure. And you'll be back here on June the eighth.
That's a Sunday night, so it's going to be an
intimate evening. You'll probably get started a little early at
the Token.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And I'm excited to see you guys.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Acoustically, I think it's going to be Uh. I think
it's gonna be interesting and a lot of fun. And uh,
I'm excited for you.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh yeah, definitely right on stud And you can't wait
to see you all. Get Troy this Westland. It's gonna
be a good time.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, let's get our tickets in advance. I think it's
looking pretty good already according to uh, you know, John
and John over there. So we'll see you June the
eighth at the Token Lounge in Westland. And Chris Brown
from TRAPP thank you so much for joining us and
congrats on the acoustic tour.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I think it's gonna be great good.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We'll see you at the Token bet all right, ro
thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Appreciate it.