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Speaker 1 (00:01):
She said, it's now never I got fighting in my blood.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Tiff.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
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Welcome to Roll with the Punches podcast with your mate
Tiff Cook. Thanks for tuning in, Hey, thanks for continuing
to tune in.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
If you have been listening to the show for a while.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
And you're still hanging around, I just want to let
you know that I really appreciate that, because that is amazing.
It has been five years. It has been five years,
and we are rocketing towards a thousand episodes, which feels
kind of surreal. It feels like yesterday I started the
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podcast and next minute.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Here we are.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Here, we are nearly a thousand EPs down the track,
still sounding like a bogain, but I know a lot
more stuff, which is really cool. I've learned heaps. I've
learned so much on this little escapade that we're on.
But it's been a while since I've done a solo episode,
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and I.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Thought i'd just jump on today.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Look. To be honest, partially, it was because I'm new
I'm music in news software to produce the podcast, and
I wanted to test it. And I am very impatient,
so I couldn't wait until Monday. It's currently Saturday. Can't
wait two more days.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So here I am. I'm doing an episode.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
But I wanted to share my experiences because fucking hell,
it's been a ride. It has been a ride, and
I know I've been sharing parts of it on various podcasts,
and I've had some interactions over socials and some people messaging,
and I know very much so that I am definitely
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not alone in the world of perimenopause, which kind of
fucking comes in hard and fast, doesn't it. So I
thought i'd do a quick episode, give you a little
bit of a rundown, and maybe it'll just just for
the sake of perhaps prompting a conversation for yourself or
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people in your world.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Who might be around my age.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I'm only forty two. I'm a spring chicken, mate, I'm
still a kid, let's be honest. But I've been on
a bit of a rollercoaster for the last couple of years, definitely,
and it's just just so frustrating to do we writing
these ways. So if I can help anyone get to
where they're going a little bit quicker, get into a solution,
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figuring shit out, then it's definitely worth me having a
bit of banter on.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
So here we are.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
For me. It all kind of began, I would say
the question started to be raised a couple of years
ago when I was making the decision to go back
into fight training, as you do forty years old, why
not why not fucking go chase a professional bloody fight title.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
But I did.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I jumped in and went into some really hard training
really quickly, and weirdly, I just went immediately to a
place of not recovering from that training. I'm used to
training at a high intensity. I love it, it's my jam,
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but I wasn't recovering from the training sessions, and then
I found myself waking up at three am. Now I've
always had a tumultuous relationship with sleep, but more with
an overactive mind and getting to sleep. I've worked really, really,
really hard for quite some time now, and I really
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started to get that under control in terms of having
great sleep hygiene, so just figuring out what works for
me and sticking to that. So started to get on
top of that. But my problem had never been getting
to sleep. Sorry, my problem had never been staying asleep.
It had been getting to sleep. So when I all
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of a sudden started waking up at three am multiple
times a week, it was really strange to me. So
not recovering from training waking up, but also just feeling
quite anxious, getting a lot of anxiety, a lot of
fatigue physical, mental, emotional fatigue. So that was a rollercoaster. Now,
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at that time, I had been training for some other
things in the lead up to that, so I've been
through some different styles of heavy training. So the first
question for me was, really, is this just my body saying, Hey,
just want to let you know we're a bit You're
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going a bit hard and we're a bit burnt. Out
and you need to have a spell, like, does this
just tip cook going? You've just not stopped for forty years, mate,
just ever rest.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I had been.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I've been trialing some ADHD medication, some stimulants over I
don't know, maybe a couple of months before that, so
i'd had a diagnosis. I've been a bit reluctant to
try the medication, but was quite inquisitive. I was finding
this was probably part of the hormonal ships as well.
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I just found myself really struggling to like with brain
fog and being focused and harnessing my a tension fuck.
And I feel like that started to get so much
more prevalent that I went, Okay, maybe I'm just struggling
against this thing when I don't need to. So I
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was trialing medications. I didn't want to take them all
of the time. I didn't want to be having them
every day. So I'd tried Vivance, which is a stimulant medication.
I was trying it, you know, a couple of times
a week, and I found that if I had it on,
if I had a couple of days in a row
and then I didn't have it, it was just I
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found that there was a bit of a drop off.
I didn't feel great, and so I'd spent a little
while playing with that and going is this causing me
to feel tired? Is this am I benefiting from this?
Are the costs worth the benefits or not? And so
by the time I had this kind of crash with training,
the questions were is this long term burnout? Or are
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these stimulant medications taxing my nervous system and leaving me depleted?
Or is this hormonal? Is this perimenopause? Or is there
something I was going on I've done, you know, I
was doing as I always am. I'm doing the psychology work,
I'm doing this stuff. I'm doing the deep work in
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my own life. And I was like, oh, am I
dealing with some stuff. I'm bringing some stuff up. Is
that coming into play here? So there was a lot
there's a lot, you know, a lot of boxes to
go what actually is this? So my first you know,
I didn't turned to looking at the perimenopause route straight away,
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probably twelve months. So I twelve months later I went
to a GP, which was a year ago. Now twelve
months I went to menopause specializing. GP doesn't work at
a metopause clinic, but I'd gone and found referrals that
asked around and said, who deals with this? I want
to go to someone who's gonna have half a clue
about what's going on. Police says, my hormones, this is
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these are all my symptoms.
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Is what's going on? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
She prescribed me estrogen gel and progesterone.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So I.
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Started HRT, but I had to go and get.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
An ultrasound on the CANS standard procedure so to go.
And so I'd started the medication. Then she said, no,
you've got to go have this first and get clearance.
And I did that, and then so I had to
go off the medication. And then I was still quick
like should I be on this? Shouldn't I be on this?
By the time I had my scans and got the
all clear for it, I was just like, you know what,
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I'm just gonna stop. I'm just gonna have a rest.
I'm gonna stop taking any ADHD stimulants. I'm going to
stop busting my ass every day. I'm just gonna I'm
gonna focus on great sleep and I'm just gonna find
myself a baseline. And then I'll start experimenting with what's
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the way forward. I spent a lot of time then
getting my sleep in order, and sleep plays such a
huge part. When my sleep's in order, things become a
lot more manageable. That was one of the big things,
but not completely so. I was still quite fatigued, still
scattered as fuck, but that kind of made me feel
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like I was getting a handle ont of bit of stuff.
But here we are, el year later, and I'm still exhausted.
I haven't really I've barely boxed or done any intense training.
I'm doing strength training, haven't done training of any intensity
like hit training, which is what I love. I love
a bit of hard interval training and power based training.
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I haven't done that since I went to India, and
that was that's almost a year ago now, so and
still feeling quite fatigued in the body, quite demotivated, and
also in the last twelve months, having these moments of
feeling anxiety, like in my body, feeling like there's this
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low level buzzing of anxiety with actually no reason behind it,
like not prompted by anything that I could put my
finger on.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I would just.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Wake up, be going about my day and it would
just be there in a way I'd never experience before.
So I was like, Okay, I'm resting, I'm sleeping when
I do do the occasional boxing work. I did thirty
minute boxing workout and it just absolutely tacks me. I'm like,
this is not right. This is definitely not how I
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should be feeling. So by this time, we're close, we're
probably like eight, nine or ten months since getting that
first prescription for hid So I went and I got
there and I started on that again and I've been
on that for two.
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Months but went back.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
So in that time, I've been exploring and having a
lot of conversations and learning a lot about testosterone being
testosterone deficient. And I was like, that really sounds like
what's going on with me? Like I am fatigued, I
am demotivated. I want to punch shit, but I don't
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have the energy for it. And I just don't feel
like the me that I used to feel, like the
enthusiasm and motivation, the excitement and the energy and just
the battery power to get up and go, It's just
not there. So I booked in back on the back
on the old HRT, booked in went to see my doctor.
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I said, I'm back. This is the deal.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I've finally started taking this prescription you gave me, and
I would like to get my testosterone levels checked or no.
I said, I would like to explore testosterone. And she said, well,
we have to do a blood test.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I'm like, yeah, cool, go go for go, go do that.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
And as I was waiting for her to write up
earth stuff, I thought to myself, I wonder what because
they did the blood test last time, I wonder what
my levels were last year. We be interesting to see
what they were last year and what they were this year.
And I said, did you, like, did we do test
just test test lost her own? Did we test test
tossed her own last last year? And she goes, no, no,
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we don't test that unless we need to. Now. I
didn't say anything. I just was like, all right, But honestly,
here's a woman, a GP who was recommended so deals
with a lot of women that are perimenopausal and menopausal.
And they come in and they sit down and they go,
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I feel like this, let's check my hormones. And they
take blood and check for two two out of the
three hormones. Like I just couldn't believe that this is
what this is the shit we have to do with.
I am someone who gets to have a lot of conversation,
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so lots of podcasts, lots of great information at my fingertips.
The average person doesn't have that luxury. And I can
only imagine, like I train women that are in their
fifties and beyond, and they are ten years into this
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journey of struggling with energy and mood and body and
psychological and emotional changes. Ten years into the journey, and
they're only just getting their hands on information about options
and how to figure it all out. And I just
could not believe it. Anyway, Off, I toddled, and I
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had my blood test, and I went back to the
docs two days later and she goes, Yep, you are
below where you need to be with testosterone, and I
was like, thank goodness for that. Felt like I don't
know what I was. It's like I expected part of me, expected,
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based on my symptoms and how I feel, to absolutely
be deficient and need testosterone, or at least to need testosterone.
But I just wasn't sure because I've done a bit
of research on whether or not I was in the
out for an argument as to the levels being within
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range and whether or not she was going to still
explore that with me. So it was such an effing
relief to go, I am in a range where these
symptoms are definitely going to be problematic. So I got
my prescription and I started yesterday. That's exciting. It's going
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to take a bloody three or four weeks before I
start to feel an effect, but I'm very excited. What
I'm gonna say about that, I guess I'm excited to
see how my energy shifts over that time and how
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my I don't know, my focus, my attention, how all
of the different facets of what I've been feeling, how
things shift over the next few weeks.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So I will.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Keep you posted if you wish to be part of
this little menopausal journey. God who would have thought would
be here?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Ah dar Hell, I.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Mean like I feel like I'm still at school now.
I'm here talking about shit. That makes me feel like
a very old lady. But I just want people to
know that there's options out there. You don't have to
feel tired and shit. And I feel like a lot
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of women have these symptoms and get pointed in all
different directions. Anxiety, medication, depression, medication, fucking.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't know. Oh you just burnt out. Oh it's
just the way it is.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Oh you're just not young anymore. There's all these But honestly,
do some research. It don't follow what I've done specifically,
I'm just a bloody bogan out there doing my own research,
fingering things.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Out for me.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So trying to figure out what works for me and
share it. Not so you do the same thing, but
so you know that you can have conversations and you
can ask questions, and you can do research, and there's
so much conflicting information out there that it's really scary.
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It's really scared to start with. So start looking into
it now, and start getting familiar and informed and comfortable
and ask all the questions. Because honestly, even when you
land in a GP's office who supposedly specializes in this,
they are still not necessarily totally informed with what's best
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for you. So my advice is, get yourself some good
information from a range of things, find out what avenue
appeals to you, and get someone to support you in that.
So it is the twenty first of June, and hopefully
by the twenty first of July, I will be back
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on giving you a little update about how bloody awesome
I feel and that I'm not grumpy anymore, and that
I'm sleeping.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Like a fuck a superstar.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So stay tuned and hit me up on socials get
tell me, tell me if you are in this stage
of chaos yourself, and tell me if you figured out
what works for you, and let's get the conversation going
because plenty of women need it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
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Speaker 2 (19:25):
She said, it's now never.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I got fighting in my blood.