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🥋What does genuine reconciliation really look like?
In this episode, we yarn with Professor Andrew Gunstone, Associate Deputy Vice-Chancellor Reconciliation at Federation University and founder of the National Centre for Reconciliation, Truth and Justice.
We unpack the uncomfortable truth behind many so-called reconciliation efforts, where flying flags, wearing t-shirts, and hosting morning teas are treated as the full story, not just the starting point. We look beyond performative gestures and ask what it really takes to create structural change, build accountability, and stay grounded in self-reflection.
From asking "what’s your why?" before launching a RAP, to advocating for bold systemic reform, including treaty, truth-telling, and Indigenous-led governance, Andrew reminds us that without justice and truth, reconciliation is just a word.
With deep insight, courage, and decades of experience, Professor Gunstone shares stories and reflections that challenge us to think more deeply and act more genuinely. If you’ve ever questioned what real reconciliation looks like or what role you can play in it, this is an episode worth sitting with.Â
Connect with Professor Andrew Gunstone on LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/andrew-gunstone-22950a176
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