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May 16, 2022 • 13 mins

Suzanne and Simon discuss alternatives to the standard date night, we have some questions from a listener and the usual collection of romantic things that Simon has been trying.

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Suzanne (00:01):
In this episode, we discuss alternatives to typical
date night, and we have ourfirst question from a listener.

Simon (00:34):
Hi, welcome to the romantic things podcast.
I'm Simon Davison, and this ismy wife,

Suzanne (00:39):
Suzanne Davison.

Simon (00:40):
Let's start off with the app status.
Uh, for this episode, things aregoing well.
Uh, we've got all of the majorbugs addressed.
We are now looking at reviewingthe detail view of all of the
romantic things.
So we changed how they wererendered.
And as a result, I need to makesure that all the content fits
in those containers correctly.

(01:01):
Um, so that's one of the checksthat we need to do.
And we also have some questionsaround the reporting side of the
app.
Some of the labeling is notparticularly informative.
Um, those things need to beaddressed, but

Suzanne (01:13):
Really close.
Right, right.
You're really close.

Simon (01:16):
Yeah.
Uh, I'm I'm hoping that we'rewithin, within a month of, of
launch, um, at this point, uh,very pleased with the progress,
uh, at this point.

Suzanne (01:25):
And then this week we actually had questions yeah.
From a listener.
So listener Adrienne asks doeither of you have any advice on
good ice breaking gestures toease couples into being romantic
or how not to come off asdisingenuous.
Also, how would you address apartner that's disinterested in

(01:47):
traditional romantic gestures?

Simon (01:50):
Well, let's start with the icebreaking gestures and not
coming off as disingenuous forthe latter.
I really try not to focus onthis.
If you're doing this to improveyour relationship, the
motivation is genuine and yourpartner's gonna see this.
Uh, the most important thing isto make these gestures often for
icebreaking gestures.
You're really looking intoromantic things that have, uh,

(02:10):
low or no effort.
These are easy things to startwith and a great way to try a
few things in a short period oftime.
Some of these examples are zeroeffort.
Things include number 483, akiss when entering or leaving
the home.
This is a nice way to showaffection just before leaving
the house and welcome them whenthey return and

Suzanne (02:32):
Just like leave it to beaver.

Simon (02:34):
I'd never watched leave it to beaver they never
made it to the UK.
I'll take your word forit.

Suzanne (02:41):


Simon (02:43):
Uh, and there's also number 77.
Uh, tell them, you appreciatetheir love, patience and
understanding, uh, every now andthen be sure to remind your
partner that you support themthroughout the day, let them
know which aspects of the wayyou show their love.
You appreciate, there are manymore zero effort romantic things
in the app, obviously, but Imean, what are your thoughts?

Suzanne (03:03):
Yeah, I mean, I, I think you talked about this, you
know, the last, um, podcastwhere it was romance, isn't just
this, these grand gestures,right?
It's multiple things, you doingmultiple things all the time.
Yeah.
Um, and I think that's what youwere trying to highlight here is
just a, just to start, startsomewhere, you know, and even if

(03:24):
they don't, you know, realizewhat's happening, but just start
somewhere and these small zeroeffort things are really easy to
do.

Simon (03:31):
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And then for the last question,how would you address a partner
that's disinterested intraditional romantic gestures?
Uh, that that's, that's tough.
Um, cuz it's hard to reallyguess what they're gonna respond
to, but the romantic things app,I would say is probably your
best bet in this situation.
Um, it features hundreds of moreromantic things from, uh, bats

(03:54):
to vacations.
Um, it's varied content meansthere's always something
different being surfacedthroughout the week.
So I think the app when it'sreleased is gonna be your best
bet.

Suzanne (04:05):
But what would you say also that to let'em know that
you're trying to do romanticgestures?
You know, so not, they're alwaysa surprise, but does, I mean, I
think that makes a difference.
Like I know every once in awhile that you're going to be
doing a romantic gesture.
Right,

Simon (04:21):
Right.
I dunno.
I guess it depends.
I mean, for me, I don'tnecessarily want to announce
that I'm high I'm in a good moodand I'm, this is what I'm gonna
say or Hey, I'm feeling romanticand I'm going to be romantic
now.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't do that.
So I just, I just do it kind ofthing.
Uh, if, if the, if the mood, ifthe mood takes me, then, then I

(04:42):
do something romantic and I, Ihope you are responsive to it
kind of thing, unless it'swhispering sweet nothing's in
your ear,

Suzanne (04:50):
Which is super creepy.
sorry Iinterrupted your thought.
Come

Simon (04:55):
Back.
No, but it, yeah, no, the, theother thing, the other benefit
is obviously that the, the appfeatures user submitted things
as well.
So it will have a little extradiversity.
It's not just gonna be myperspective on romance.
At some point, we're gonna see alot more influence from the
users submitted content, um,which I'm really excited to see
outside of the app.

(05:15):
You're looking at ways ofcollaborating tasks that you're
gonna find interesting together.
Ultimately, you are looking forregular interactions that show
how you feel.
If there are sports fan, reallytaking interest in the teams,
maybe learn a little ahead ofthe game.
Just something to show thatlittle extra piece of interest.
Me personally, I'm a practicalperson.
And for the long time, I wasn'tparticularly interested in

(05:37):
traditional signs of affection.
Um, and I tended to show myaffection through acts of
service.
It's possible.
Your partners, uh, got a similarapproach.
If that's the case, performingaccess service for your partner
might well be seen as romanticAGS from their perspective.

Suzanne (05:52):
So like doing the dishes,

Simon (05:53):
Right.
And laundry and laundry, exactly

Suzanne (05:55):
Things that aren't necessarily romantic, but help
them in a way that exactly theyknow they're appreciated

Simon (06:03):
And shows that you care, you, you care and you're paying
attention, right.
So, but ultimately when the appcomes available, that's gonna be
your best bet.
It'll supply regular romanticsuggestions, many of which are
unique to the app throughout theyear.
So anyway, thank, thank you forthe question.
It's been great.

Suzanne (06:19):
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I, I didn't think wewould get any questions.
So this is good.

Simon (06:23):
Yeah, exactly.

Suzanne (06:24):
So many people get stuck in a routine of dates like
that consist of drinks followedby dinner, then home, maybe to
the kids.
What are some other ideas fordate night that couples could
try out?
Uh,

Simon (06:39):
Well, one easy day out is to treat your hometown like
tourists.
And we've talked about thisbefore.
Yeah.
Um, as locals, you tend to avoidthe more touristy areas, but
sometimes it's good to see whatcomes by.
Do some people watching grab byDew, eat, go for drinks, stay on
the beaten path.
Um, go to a game, uh, pick asport, uh, and go to see a game,

(06:59):
get it caught up on thrill ofthe action together.
Um, set up a scavenger hunt.
I mean, that's something thatpeople don't do don't
really do, but you know, if youtake the time, you can, you
could do a small scale versionaround the house.
Or if you wanna do it properly,you can do one around town and
actually have a scavenger huntgoing to different bars and

Suzanne (07:18):
Restaurants.
You know, you see those things,you know, where they're like
open this, you know, and they'reall tucked into different places
on your body.
I mean, that's kind of ascavenger hunt.

Simon (07:28):
Yeah, absolutely.
So there's also comedy clubs,which are kind of having a bit
of a resurgence at the moment.
Um, these are great places forcouples old and new, um, have a
couple of drinks, uh, have somegiggles.
There's usually something foreveryone.
And then you can karaoke as acouple, the local karaoke spot
and impress people with yoursinging skills.

Suzanne (07:47):
Impressum do you think that that would happen for us?

Simon (07:49):
Well, not for us.
Cause we're crappers well,actually I'm crapper singing.
You're you're pretty good.
I'm I'm awful,

Suzanne (07:55):
But not always

Simon (07:57):
I dunno.
You're pretty much mostly good.
so yeah.
So I, I think those are somegood alternatives for nights
out, but once again, the appwill give you plenty more
suggestions.
So let's get onto the romanticgestures that I've been working
on for this week's episode orthis episode.
Should I say the first one issomething that came up it's it's

(08:20):
release butterflies together.
Now this is something that, uh,we didn't do this week, but we
actually did do for our wedding.
The reason I'm bringing up ourwedding is because as, as the
husband or groomed to be readyfor the wedding, I was convinced
that this was all gonna gohorribly, horribly wrong.

(08:40):
And that we would end up givingpeople dead butterflies, and
they would just be deadbutterflies on the floor at our
wedding.

Suzanne (08:46):
Yeah.
Cuz you get'em in a littlepacket, right.
Instead.
Yeah.

Simon (08:49):
They

Suzanne (08:49):
Envelope, they're like a little triangle and you hand
them out and you just don't knowthey could all be dead or they
could all fly away and he wasconvinced.

Simon (08:58):
Yeah.
Uh, I, I thought I was reallyworried that on our most
romantic day that it would beMARD by the death of a hundred
butterflies kind of thing.
But as it turned out, it workedout wonderfully.
Everybody enjoyed theexperience.
It, it did mean a lot and I, Ikind of got into the experience
and I, I even dealt with MariahCarrie's butterfly as the

(09:18):
soundtrack as well.
um, but it was, it wasgood.
I, I, I, I thought that was a, avery romantic gesture and uh,
I'm

Suzanne (09:25):
It is one thing people remember about our wedding.
Yeah,

Simon (09:29):
No, I, it, that was a good choice.
That was your romantic gestureto me sort of thing.
Mm-hmm so I'm Iwanna thank you for that, cuz
that was, that was great.
And it's a great suggestion.
So for all the couples outthere, releasing butterflies
together is a great experience.
Number two.
Uh, well actually let me back upto the releasing butterflies.
Cause I, I, I wanted to tell youthat the cost wise, that's only

(09:50):
two out of five and effort isone out of five limited cost.
It's not that expensive for whatyou're getting.
Um, and the effort is obviouslyobviously pretty low.
It's just a case of releasingthe butterflies, but um, yeah.
Great experience and uh, notmuch effort.
Yeah.
So for number two, um, put yourpartner's shoes on their feet,

(10:10):
which is free and one out fivefor effort.
I didn't get many opportunitiesto do this cuz you were kind of
Johnny on the spot for puttingyour shoes on.
So I only got to do this acouple of times, but how was the
experience for you?

Suzanne (10:25):
Yeah, I felt like Cinderella you?
It was, uh, it was good.
You, you grabbed my foot flopsand put'em on right before we
went out to Lynch.
So yeah,

Simon (10:35):
It felt nice putting the shoes on your feet.
Um, so yeah, let's move on tonumber three, which is holding
hands, which is free.
And one for effort, this is aclassic we've been holding hands
on and off for a long time.
Now, uh, I like to do it holding, holding hands on the couch and
while we're walking down thestreets.
Yep.
The only, only time we don'ttend to do it is when it's hot

(10:58):
and our hands get clammy andstuff,

Suzanne (11:01):
You run very hot.
And so I do sometimes that'sjust too much to hold on to
.

Simon (11:07):
Um, but yeah.
So how was the hand holdingexperience this week?

Suzanne (11:11):
Good.
You grabbed my hand when we werewatching a movie mm-hmm


Simon (11:15):
Yeah, let's see.
Number four.
Tell them you appreciate theirlove, patience and
understanding, which is free.
No effort.
What did you think about thisone?

Suzanne (11:25):
Well, you definitely do this all the time and I
appreciate it a lot.

Simon (11:29):
Yeah.
I think it's important to letpeople know that just beyond
the, I love you, which we do saytend to say, uh, often through
our relationships, it's theother things that they're
understanding their patients.

Suzanne (11:42):
You actually think I have patience, uh,

Simon (11:44):
For me.
Yeah.

Suzanne (11:45):
For you okay.

Simon (11:49):
So yeah, I, I think these , these are the things which, uh
, I, I'm glad you have thesetraits as well as your, uh, your
love for me as well.
So yeah, I I'm I'm I'm verypleased about that.

Suzanne (12:00):
Yep.

Simon (12:01):
And okay,

Suzanne (12:02):
Whoa.
This one was a big one.

Simon (12:03):
Number five, number five.

Suzanne (12:04):
Yeah.

Simon (12:05):
Number

Suzanne (12:05):
Five, actually.
Can't believe you did this.

Simon (12:07):
Yeah.
Get their car or bike cleaned,which is two for cost and one
for effort.

Suzanne (12:12):
But not only did you get it clean, you did it
yourself.
And so I would say effort was alittle bit more than one.
If you're taking it outsomewhere to get it done, that's
one thing.
But if you did it yourself yeah,you did.

Simon (12:25):
Yeah.
The intention was to actually goand get it done somewhere, but I
decided to clean it myself.
Um, yeah.
I, I rented that decision abouthalfway through the process, but
, it

Suzanne (12:35):
Couldn't stop

Simon (12:37):
By that point.
I was committed.
So, uh, yeah.
Yeah.

Suzanne (12:40):
and I did know he, I was in working, so I did
know he was out there cleaningmy car, which was very nice to
walk out and see the shiny car.
Yeah.

Simon (12:47):
I was pleased.
So how do we do it in thisepisode?
What was, what was your leastfavorite romantic gesture?

Suzanne (12:54):
I don't think I had a least favorite this week.
Cuz there wasn't any, he didn'tcreep me out.

Simon (12:59):
Okay.
That's

Suzanne (12:59):
Always good.
That's always good.
Um, and you know, theremembrance of the butterflies
is always good.
Mm-hmm um, I meanwe hold hands all the time, so I
guess for out of the normal, butmy favorite was that my car got
cleaned, so yeah.
Okay.
That, that's a good thing.

Simon (13:15):
Okay.
Well that's fair enough.
so I think everybodyshould try some of the aspects
we've covered in this episodewith their partners and let us
know how thingsgo@romanticthingsappatgmail.com.

Suzanne (13:27):
Yeah.
And if you have more questions,we'll be happy to address them
on the next podcast.
Absolutely.
And again, it's romantic things.
App gmail.com.

Simon (13:37):
Don't forget to share if you enjoy the show and we'll be
back in the next episode

Suzanne (13:42):
And don't forget to be romantic.
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