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July 2, 2025 32 mins

In this conversation, Meg Kearney interviews Lisa Marie Anzaldua, a neurodiverse couples counselor and coach. They discuss the complexities of neurodiversity in relationships, particularly focusing on the experiences of couples where one partner is on the autism spectrum. Lisa shares insights on the neurodiverse trauma cycle, the importance of creating safe spaces in therapy, and the differences in how ASD presents in men and women. They also explore the significance of self-love and various modalities for nervous system regulation, emphasizing the holistic approach to healing and empowerment.

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Takeaways:

  • Understanding ASD is crucial for healthy relationships.
  • Women on the spectrum often face unique challenges.
  • Healing requires a holistic approach: mind, body, spirit.
  • The neurodiverse trauma cycle can lead to deep emotional wounds.
  • Creating safe spaces in therapy is essential for healing.
  • Individual therapy can complement couples therapy.
  • Masking behaviors differ between men and women with ASD.
  • Self-love is a powerful tool for healing and empowerment.
  • Breathwork and yoga are effective modalities for nervous system regulation.

Sound Bites:

"The neurodiverse trauma cycle is real."

"Releasing shame is crucial for healing."

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Neurodiverse Counseling

02:45 Understanding Neurodiversity in Relationships

05:42 The Neurodiverse Trauma Cycle

08:13 Creating Safe Spaces in Therapy

11:08 The Importance of Individual Therapy

14:00 Characteristics of ASD in Men and Women

16:26 The Nuances of Masking

18:19 Lisa's Journey into Healing and Counseling

22:02 Modalities for Nervous System Regulation

25:38 The Power of Self-Love and Integration

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