September 28, 2025 • 47 mins
Do you ever feel like you’re running behind in life, chasing success, love, or purpose, while everyone else seems further ahead? That constant pressure to “catch up” is exhausting… and completely misleading.
In this episode of Rooted & Rising, host Tara Mychelle and Master Life Coach Karen Oliver challenge the belief that you’re falling behind and reveal a transformative truth: you’re not behind...you’re becoming.
Together, they explore how:
- Comparison and cultural conditioning fuel feelings of inadequacy
- Shifting from survival mode to presence creates true transformation
- Trusting divine timing opens the door to aligned opportunities
- Honoring your current season allows growth to unfold naturally
Karen shares her personal journey of resisting her calling as a coach, only to realize that her unique gifts were meant for the exact people who needed them. Tara opens up about her own leap of faith after being laid off the same week she relaunched her podcast, proof that divine timing can redirect us toward our purpose.
If you’ve been weighed down by comparison, rushing your timeline, or doubting your path, this conversation will inspire you to:
💫 Release the pressure of where you think you “should” be
💫 Root into self-worth and presence
💫 Rise with faith in your own becoming
Tune in now to discover how to embrace your season, trust your journey, and step into the life that’s unfolding perfectly for you.
Find Karen Oliver Here: https://www.wcdcoachingllc.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIOHrdR4tR6dpUF_hvJn5_g
Looking for confirmation, guidance, or support in an area of life where you feel stuck, stagnant, or simply unclear of what to do next? Let's connect: book a complimentary Discovery Session with me, today!
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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Today we're going to talk about how you're not
behind, you're becoming.
That's right.
Because so often we feel likewe're behind in life, we're
behind in success, love, career,healing.
But what if you're not actuallybehind?
What if all you are is on time,becoming who you're meant to be.
(00:20):
Welcome to Rooted in Rising.
I'm your host, Tara Michelle,intuitive guide, storyteller,
and fellow traveler on this wildpath of becoming.
This is a space for the soulled, for the ones unraveling old
stories tending to their healingand rising.
Not perfectly, but powerfullyinto who they are here to be.
(00:40):
Here we explore what it means tolive with intention, to love
with depth, and to trust thateven the hard things are shaping
us.
I'll share pieces of my ownjourney, the cracks, the beauty,
the breakthroughs, and invitevoices who are walking this path
too.
Because I believe life isn'thappening to us, it's happening
for us.
(01:01):
So come as you are, root in andrise up.
And thank you.
Truly thank you for being here.
Today I'm excited because I havea beautiful guest with me by the
name of Karen Oliver, and we'regoing to discuss this topic
today, but a little bit aboutKaren.
She's a dedicated Master Lifecoach and health coach.
(01:21):
She has a strong commitment toempowering individuals in their
personal and professionaljourneys, and her expertise lies
in guiding her clients towardsachieving their goals and
improving their overallwell-being.
In addition to coaching, shealso operates a business academy
specifically designed forentrepreneurs through her
organization called WCD CoachingInc., which stands for Women
(01:46):
Committed to Dreams.
Strives to provide resources andsupport for women that are
pursuing entrepreneurialaspirations.
Karen is also a rising author.
She is the owner of FearlessDaughters Dream Apparel, an NKB
Cosmetics.
She hosts the We Dream Fearlesspodcast as well as Labor and
(02:09):
Love Podcast.
So I'm excited to be sharing herwith you today and excited about
this opportunity for us to talkabout this very topic.
So, all right, welcome, Karen.
Thank you so much for being onthe show today.
I'm so excited to have you.
It's just amazing.
And I love what you're up to andall the things you've created.
And I'm excited to share youwith the guests here.
(02:31):
So we're talking about howyou're not behind, you're
becoming.
And what I love about thistopic, and I wanted to really
dissect it with you, is becauseI feel so many people.
I'll say women, because I know alot of women listen to the show,
but just people in general wherewe feel behind.
We always feel like we're tryingto get somewhere, trying to
(02:53):
catch up, trying like it's notenough, it's not enough, it's
not enough.
We're chasing that carrot andoften comparing ourselves to
where other people are and towho they are versus, you know,
who we are.
And so I want to open this upand just share some more and
learn more about, you know,maybe sometimes you've felt that
(03:14):
way.
Um, especially given that youwork with so many women, you're
coaching women.
You know, when when you think ofthis topic, what is what comes
up for you?
SPEAKER_00 (03:25):
Well, I think of the topic that you just explained
about, especially that's thenorm, I think, Tara.
For a lot of us, like we thinkthat we're about to because we
think that everybody else is abecause like you said, we're
comparing to everybody.
So just you know, talk beingable to talk with other
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professional individual, youknow, some young men.
You know, some young man, butmostly women because they're
like we're we're in the samething like users, uh I didn't
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really know what I was supposedto be doing.
But then a lot of the peoplethat I was like, um I've just
been running away from it thewhole time because I'm always to
listen to others.
And a lot of people used to tellme to like you just sit down,
you have an ear to actuallylisten.
You say you're you're not justlistening, but you're intaking
(04:47):
what they're saying.
You have the patience to listento others and sympathize what
they're going through, whereversus other people can't, you
know, do that because it takesmore than to just listen.
You have to intake and you haveto sympathize and you have to be
able to connect with thatperson's story, what they've
been through, what they'resaying.
(05:08):
And you know, I I really neverthought about that.
And I got to thinking one day,and I was like, yeah, I do.
And you know, I when I startedthe group and I started the
group in 2017 on Facebook, I'mjust like, ah, you know,
everybody's doing similarthings.
I was like, maybe this is just aside thing.
I was like, uh, I don't reallywant to go through the hustle
(05:28):
and bustle.
I was just thinking about what Ididn't want to do, what Karen
didn't want to do.
SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
And I was like, I love it, what Karen didn't want
to do.
unknown (05:34):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (05:35):
Right.
And I'm like, uh, Karen, it'snot about you.
The light bulb came on duringthe pandemic.
It's not about you.
Um you you have a heart for forhelping people, like you said,
Tara, to become what they are.
You sympathize with them, youlisten.
So just because someone else isin the same nature, area, or
(05:55):
career that you are, you have adifferent, unique approach to a
different audience.
And that's what I had to sharewith the women.
I said, Yeah, I felt like thattoo, but I had to learn, you
know, Tara, I had to learn, Ihad to go to seminars, I had to
listen to other women who wasalready in the industry.
Yes.
Um, I had to find out what itwas that I needed to do in my
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area, but first I had to learnfrom someone else and understand
their path and that I had tounderstand my path.
So, like you said, it's not thatyou're not that you're behind,
you're right where you'resupposed to be, because you have
to grow from you have to growfrom the area where you're at,
and you have to get to thatplace, and you have to be
(06:38):
comfortable with that placesometimes because sometimes you
may feel like you're behind, andthis person may be out there
speaking in front of thousandsor hundreds or whatever.
You may want to become aprofessional speaker through
through your coaching or throughwhat other area you're you may
be doing business-wise orentrepreneur-wise, but there is
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something that we all have tolearn.
It's not that you're behind, isthat you have to stay in the
season that you're in until youget to the next season.
SPEAKER_02 (07:06):
I I love that you said the season, because I
think, you know, I just want tobring the listeners back.
This is that whole idea whenyou're comparing yourself.
You know, I'll I'll take anexample of my own life is that,
you know, I have stories aroundI don't have a bachelor's
degree.
I haven't finished it yet.
And so I have there, or there isa story like, oh, I can't get as
(07:30):
far as I want in my careerbecause that's holding me back.
Or, and, you know, and I can goget it at any point in time.
I have tried to get it in thepast, but it it didn't work out.
Um, you know, there's or I'm I'm54 now, so I should be making X
amount of money, or I should bein this kind of relationship, or
I or my child should be XYZ, or,or, you know, I should have so
(07:53):
many investments.
You know, we have these storiesthat I think are culturally
impressed upon us that youshould be somewhere at a certain
age and a certain time in yourlife.
And really, it it's it's notabout that because wherever you
are, like you said, is exactlywhere you were to be.
(08:14):
And somebody said to meyesterday, she was talking to a
mentor, a dear friend of mine,she was talking to a mentor, and
her mentor said, You're simplynot ready.
Like if you don't have the thingyou you say you want, it isn't
because you don't deserve it.
It isn't because you can'tachieve it.
It's because you're simply notready, because you are still
becoming whoever this person isto open yourself to whatever
(08:37):
that is that you think that youwant or or whatever it is, like
whatever thing you think youshould be at this time.
Yeah, you're you're not thatbecause you're not there yet.
And I don't even want to say, Idon't like saying it that you're
not there yet, because it reallyis about you are in that space
of becoming.
SPEAKER_00 (08:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (08:54):
And I think we often forget to even stop and look at
who have I become?
What have I accomplished?
What have I achieved at thispoint in time?
You know, who am I right now?
And I think that also takes usout of the present moment,
right?
Because we're always looking forwhat do I need?
What do I need?
What do I need?
Where can I be?
Where can I be?
What can I get?
(09:14):
What can I get?
Like that's it's like this weirdhuman condition in the Western
world.
I can't say it's like that foreverybody, but I mean in our
Western culture, it's very muchof where can I be?
Where can I get?
How am I gonna get there?
instead of who am I right now?
Who am I?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, it's it's uh it's amazing,it's amazing.
(09:37):
So, you know, I wanted to alsoask you when when was a turning
point for you?
Like in your journey, in yourlife, as opening up this
coaching practice, you have acosmetics business, you have
podcasts.
I mean, you are moving andshaking.
You are getting your voice outthere, you are being in your
(10:00):
truth, standing in your truth.
What was the turning point foryou, really, when you stopped
worrying about, you know, am Iever gonna get there or what do
I not have?
Like, what was the turning pointfor you?
SPEAKER_00 (10:14):
I would say the turning point, Tara, was I had
to get out of self and say, andand tell myself, Karen, you can
do this.
Um and I think the focal pointwas I can't think about or worry
about in the back of my mind ifI'm gonna make it or not.
Or if um I'm gonna fail or not,because what we need to realize
(10:36):
is that when you fail atsomething, fail failing is
success.
It's just it just means that youhave to go and pivot and you've
gotta do something else or dosomething different or whatnot.
So I had to take that off, takethat from the back of my mind
and say, you know, Karen, youknow, you have the resources
here, you have the help, goahead and do it.
And then I had to realize, waita minute, I'm just not subject
(10:59):
to one thing.
I realized that, okay, I can bea comma.
I know a lot of people be like,oh, what is that?
And um a lot of people now haveheard of it.
Like, a comment means I can, youknow, do more than one thing.
I can be whatever I want to be,I can take a shot at this,
especially if that's my calling.
And like you said before, justbrainstorming and asking
(11:22):
yourself the questions, am Isupposed to do this now?
Or I'm supposed to wait on this,or can I do can I do both, can I
start both of these brands?
Can I start both of thesebrands?
What do I need to start both ofthese brands and what help do I
need?
I know a lot of times we'll justgo ahead and start stuff and we
don't even ask anybody, but weneed help.
(11:42):
We have to ask others becauseothers have gone through trial
and error, and we'll have to doit too.
And so my turning point wasokay, um, I'm sitting up, I'm
brainstorming, and I waspreparing like two years before.
And I knew me being in thehealthcare industry and me
having my own problems inhealth, um, as well as um eating
(12:06):
the right thing, skincare andall that.
And I said, you know, um thename came to me, like I
prepared.
I had already written down thename and everything.
That's how I knew I was supposedto do it because I was preparing
for it and I took my time rightgetting things coming into your
life.
I was getting things coming, andthe names kept coming up, and I
was writing down, but I didn'tlike start them all together.
(12:30):
Like um, I was working on thecoaching practice for two whole
two whole years before I didthis.
SPEAKER_02 (12:36):
The others came together.
I have a quite a question inregards to that.
What what is the what was thebiggest mental challenge or the
mental construct that you had toovercome within you?
I know for me it's always beenself-worth of not enough or I'll
never be chosen.
Like I have these old patternsor stories from childhood.
(12:59):
What was the biggest one foryou?
Because I know a lot of peoplestruggle with that.
And yeah, share more about that.
SPEAKER_00 (13:07):
Um my my I think my mental challenge was was like,
am I going to get the supportthat I need?
SPEAKER_02 (13:14):
And am I supported?
SPEAKER_00 (13:15):
Yeah, and am I supported?
And then I had to realize, andyou know, talking with other
counselors, and they were like,you have to uh receive
rejection, you'll you'll have tobe able to accept it because
everybody that are is close toyou and maybe close to you may
not accept what you're doing.
SPEAKER_02 (13:35):
What's right?
SPEAKER_00 (13:36):
So I exactly so I had to kind of like accept that.
If I had to never talk toanybody or knew or just actually
confided in someone that Itrusted, I never would have
known that or whatever.
But sometimes it does hurt.
Let's like me talking aboutmental, let's be honest, it does
hurt when you when someone isnot supporting you that you
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absolutely close to you when yousupport them.
SPEAKER_02 (14:00):
Yeah, yeah.
And you know, and it's funny,you know, I I think that
definitely is uh that's probablya subconscious line that runs in
the back of my mind too.
Like, I'm not supported.
And hey, anybody listening thatshows up as lower back pain,
when you have lower back pain,it's because you internally
believe that you're notsupported, you don't feel
supported in your life.
(14:20):
And I think uh, you know, it'sfunny, not that this
conversation is about this, butI always bring it back to that
is like that's when you fallback on God because God is
always supporting you.
And when you were talking aboutyou were hearing the names, you
were hearing the voices, likeyou hear, I just got chills, you
hear what your calling is whenyou allow yourself to surrender
and just be open to that journeyand be open to that process.
(14:43):
So it's yeah, it's reallybeautiful because I know it
takes something to be doing allthat you're doing.
Yeah.
It takes something, it takessomething, it takes commitment,
it takes drive, it takes courageto continually move past that
story of I don't, I don't thinkI'll be supported.
And then you just kept goinganyways.
You just kept going.
(15:03):
You kept going.
And now you have this amazing,you have all kinds of amazing
things going on, your coachingbusiness, your coaching
practice, your your podcast.
And yeah, it's it's amazing.
It's really amazing.
The thing that I really loveabout this topic that I don't
think gets focused enough on isoh yeah, there it is.
(15:25):
Like the whole contrast betweensurvival versus becoming.
And I think so often, I I knowfor myself as a single mother,
um, survival is a constant thingthat I have to battle against.
That that being in your, youknow, because when you're
operating from survival, you youdon't have clear choice, you
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don't have powerful choice,you're you're often off, you're
often operating from purelysurvival, which then puts you in
this non-logical thinking, andyou can make choices that you
may regret.
And so when you're becoming inthis space, and that's where I
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think that that it's a fine linewhen we're when we're worried
about where we're not, becausewhen we're worried about where
we're not, we are in survival.
SPEAKER_01 (16:19):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (16:19):
When we're in the present, that is really when
we're getting to soak in thatthat essence of who we are
becoming.
And I think that's a piecethat's really missed a lot.
So I would love to hear yourthoughts about that and what
you've seen for yourself, andmaybe even some things that you
do to pull you out of thatsurvival mode.
SPEAKER_00 (16:39):
I would say there's some things that are pull me out
of that survival mode, justknowing that um that I'm gonna
be taken care of, that thingsare gonna work out the way it's
gonna work out.
And you actually said itearlier, um, Tara, that you know
God supports um us 100%.
Like if if I if I know that,well, and if I believe that we
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could know it, but it's aboutbelieving that I think uh more
so times we rely on people andhe's trying to get us out of,
you know, leaning on people somuch.
I know we have a relationshipwith people, but he wants us to
have a close connection with himand to know that hey, like you
can do this, you're that I'mgonna support you every step of
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the way, even if no one elsedoesn't.
And so just taking myself out ofthe survival mode, even uh me as
well, um, Tara being a singlemother, my daughter, she's now
18, and uh the whole time that Iwas going through uh what
someone called it the fake, itcould be baby booze, it could be
just anything, even though I hada village, even though I had my
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parents, because they havealways been a big part of me and
my daughter's life.
Um, you know, you still feellike it's it's it's just me
against the world, it's just meagainst the world.
And then, you know, God is like,well, what do you think about
what is I'm what do you thinkthat I'm doing?
I'm here with you.
Um, I may not be here with youphysically, but you can you can
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feel me.
You can feel my presence and youcan see that I'm working things
out.
But even sometimes you just feellike that somebody needs to be
there.
Um, somebody needs to be thereto be able to understand you.
And you still feel like I'mdoing this all alone, but you're
really not.
You're really not, you're reallynot doing it all alone.
So it's like, let me take myselfout of survival mode and let me
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go and do what I need to do formy family, for my children.
I know that this person mightmay not be a part of my child's
life or whatnot, but she has me,she has a village, or he has me,
and he has a village.
And so I have to know that I canmove along through the world
without worrying about it.
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Somebody's gonna come to myrescue because I know.
SPEAKER_02 (18:55):
Right now, right.
I think too, you know, youthat's so like so many people
are waiting for somebody to cometo their rescue when the
somebody they're waiting for isright there in the mirror.
And that's like really lookingat who you are, and are you
going to rescue you?
SPEAKER_00 (19:16):
Because we that's good, right?
SPEAKER_02 (19:18):
Because we do put so much emphasis on who's gonna
save me, the government's gonnasave me, you know, the
corporation's gonna save me.
Yeah, the teachers gonna no,nobody, nobody's gonna save you.
It's that whole I always lovethat.
Um, I don't know if you knowthat that little story about the
man who there was a flood and hesaid, God, you know, save me.
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And so, like a guy comes by on aboat and he says, No, God's
gonna save me.
And so then a guy comes by witha helicopter, no, God's gonna
save me until eventually hedrowns, and then he gets to
heaven and he's like, God, he'slike, I sent you a boat, I sent
you, you know, I sent you thehelicopter.
I sent you all the things, butyou didn't do anything with it,
you know, because you werelooking outside of yourself.
(20:05):
Yeah, we need saved, yes, andand and I think in this state of
becoming, uh, you know, and Itake it back to the title of
this podcast, Rooted and Rising.
When you are becoming, that'swhen you're really looking in
deep and you are rooting.
You are rooting in who am I?
(20:25):
What what resources can Iprovide for myself?
And not to say that youshouldn't look out there for
support, because there aredefinitely people there to
support you, right?
Right.
But it's it's it's um, I thinkit's a fine line again, shifting
from that victim mentality intoyour being your own hero.
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And these, you know, I actuallysaid it in my very first
podcast, which is called Um,it's about being in the gap.
And that's when this show isIntuitive Mentor Mom.
I love that whole theory aboutbeing in the gap because that's
that space between that survivaland becoming, that's that space
where you think, oh, I don'thave enough, or I'm not, and I'm
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I'm not in the career I shouldbe, and I don't have the role or
the title I should have, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah.
And that's when you're in thatsurvival mode.
And almost I would say thatwould be the trigger or the tool
for those of you listening isthat when you find that you're
having those conversations withyourself, like, oh, I don't have
the title, oh, I don't have theboyfriend or the girlfriend, or
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oh, right, my kid isn't, youknow, getting XYZ at school, or
oh, oh, oh, whatever you thinkyou don't have or you're not
doing, that's the trigger tostop.
Because actually, if you stop,pull it all in and look around
your entire life and literally,I like to say, count your
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blessings.
SPEAKER_00 (21:50):
Yes, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:51):
Like we woke up today.
That's a blessing.
I woke up.
SPEAKER_00 (21:55):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (21:56):
I woke up, yeah.
My son woke up.
Like, that's a blessing.
I got my son to school on time.
The car didn't break down, I gota job.
Like, those are the blessings,you know, or my health feels
okay today, or it's better thanyesterday, or hey, it doesn't
feel good today, but there'ssomething I can do about that.
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It's like we start looking atthe things we've accomplished,
and that brings us back topresence versus worrying about
what we don't have.
SPEAKER_00 (22:26):
Yeah, like speaking positive, like all those
affirmations that you were justspeaking terror, like you were
just speaking positive.
I may not feel good now, but Ifeel a little bit better than I
did yesterday.
Right.
Um, you know, just speaking,like you said, those positive
informations.
SPEAKER_02 (22:41):
Yes, yes.
And I, you know, and IStephanie, I just saw a little
trigger word on here, income andmilestones.
Yeah, like I mean, income is abig one, I think, in this
country where the majority ofthe world is worried about not
making enough income andthinking they should make more
and trying to figure out howthey're gonna make more.
(23:01):
And I often talk about, youknow, what it would be like to
just sell it all and go to aquiet place where life isn't
such a grind like that, youknow?
Exactly.
Like where you could actually bepresent in your body, in your
life, with your family, withyour children.
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And and that's hard, you know,as a single mom, a single woman,
single parent, period, man orwoman.
It's not easy in this country.
Exactly.
I'm constantly in my head aboutI'm not being present enough for
my son.
I'm not spending enough timewith my son.
And so then I remind myself whenI get caught up in that wheel,
I'm like, you know what, Tara?
Like I did last night, it wastime for bed.
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I went and laid next to him, andwe just had a nice conversation
right before, you know, thelights were already out.
But I was like, I'm gonnasqueeze in some quality time
because I'm feeling like it'sI'm not giving him enough when
in fact I am.
But I'm gonna just go ahead andjust be present in this moment.
I'm not gonna worry about weneed to be in bed, it's 9 30.
Oh my god, you have to get up atthis time, and oh my god, we
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need to be up at 5 30.
A little I was like, you knowwhat?
No, I'm just gonna lay here andtalk to him.
I'm not gonna worry about any ofthat stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (24:12):
Pressure moments, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (24:14):
Yeah, pressure.
SPEAKER_00 (24:15):
And I'm and when you say income, Tara, that that that
is the norm because I I I havebeen guilty of it.
I have to say I have been guiltyof it, but it's about walking,
like you said, walking in yourtruth and trusting the process.
Yes, we know that everythingtakes money, and a lot of us may
not be making what we desire tomake.
(24:35):
A lot of us are in theentrepreneurial world and we may
be working part-time orsomething on us.
I don't know, or maybe God hastold you that hey, stop focusing
on the income and focus on yourpurpose and your future, but you
gotta trust me for the incomepart, but our minds won't grasp
it.
That need to calm down.
SPEAKER_02 (24:55):
We could have a whole just a whole show just on
that, like trusting in God'sprocess to provide you that
income.
Let's talk about let's talkabout that because that's a big
one.
Tell me more, say more aboutthat, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (25:12):
Let's say for you, well, this is this is a true
story, even with me, and I'lljust share a little bit about me
to the audience, and I'mpreaching somebody out there
about it.
But I've been in healthcaresince you know working with
patients, and that's what Idecided to do with the role
integrating health coaching aswell.
(25:57):
Okay, so when I got PR like it,we'll work with different
doctors.
So recently I got PR.
SPEAKER_02 (26:07):
Tell the audience what PRN is.
SPEAKER_00 (26:09):
PR is a needed, so it's not you can make you can
make as many hours or as youwant, or you make less hours.
It's not a demand, they justactually pay if you work with
such a such while they're on thepatient.
You can work that you know,mostly people would take PR if
they have full composition.
But for me, I didn't have Idon't have the full composition.
(26:31):
I'm just getting my sport.
So I'm just PR and as I waslooking at these full
competition.
What if they take the taste orthe feeling away from you to get
more hours important?
That's like what you did.
So I was always available whensomebody was on vacation.
(26:53):
I was like, yeah, because I wastrying to get how would you guys
need it for the business andstuff like that.
But I was like, I just think itwas going to trust me when you
tell people to work.
So when they have colonies, likehow would you guys have in this
country store about me?
Really, I start looking at theproblem and I started saying no
(27:14):
because I know what I told Godand God was uh taking that that
feeling away.
Um because he said it's like youwant to work full-time for this
company when you have afull-time business, but you're
worried about the income.
So I stopped being availableevery time they called.
And they was like, Well, Karen,do you have a full-time position
(27:35):
yet?
And I said, Well, you all knowI'm full-time in my business.
And they was like, Oh, well, youknow, I was gonna I was gonna
get you some more hours.
And so my mom was looking at theincome, and then I heard the
Holy Spirit say, Oh, are yougonna trust me?
Or are you is this your company?
Are you gonna give your time tothis company and neglect yours
(27:55):
or what?
And so I stopped answering likejust yesterday.
They asked me, Can you work forsomebody?
And I was like, No.
And so that to me is totallywalking and walking on that path
to trusting, even though I don'tknow what's coming, that I still
have to walk that straight pathand trust.
SPEAKER_02 (28:15):
That's so funny you mentioned that because I'm in a
very similar situation rightnow.
I was laid off last week and uhin a very similar situation.
And I I opened up this practiceon the side called Sold Spaces,
where I go and do energyalignment for real estate agents
and property listings, and thatreally opened up it, it kind of
(28:35):
blew up the moment I launchedit.
And and so the day that Irelaunched this podcast, Rooted
in Rising, the next day I waslaid off.
I actually then had severalappointments with new clients,
and that that's just been a weeknow.
Um and there's a fear of like,oh God, I need to go get another
(28:56):
job, I need to go get anotherjob.
Uh-huh.
There's the other piece of like,well, maybe it's a part-time job
because I'm supposed to do thisjob because God has aligned and
opened this up for me, and it ismy purpose, it is my truth.
All these things startedbubbling up even with the
podcast because the podcast isyet another extension of the
truth of who I am.
(29:17):
And so it is funny, and it isthat piece, you know, those that
are listening, yeah, you have totrust and have faith, and that's
the scary part.
Oh, yeah.
And when I say scary, it's notlisten, here's true, here's true
story about me.
I mean, I've lost everythingbefore.
I've lost my house, I walkedout, my car was gone.
(29:38):
I was like, well, guess I gotrepo today, you know.
I was like, I have been there.
I have lost everything before.
And in this position that I'mat, I don't feel the fear or the
shame that I felt during thosetimes because that was many
years ago.
Now I just feel like, okay, God,I hear you.
(29:58):
I hear you, but you're gonnahave to show me.
And I think that's the otherpiece, is you have to ask.
And this is that's these arethose spaces of becoming, right?
This is where you're polishingyour stone, you're polishing
your who you are, and you'reyou're polishing your character.
And and I had told people in a acouple episodes back where I was
(30:19):
like, you want to ask yourself,you know, um, who were you for
yourself that day?
And and where did you take thestand for yourself?
You know, what are the thingsyou put in place to keep
shifting who you say you are inthis world?
You know, where and basicallywhat it's saying is where did
you sell out on yourself today?
And where did you choose not tosell out on yourself?
(30:40):
And and that's an interestingplace to be, especially in
America, where, and there's alot of people that I know that
listen to this show, you're nothere in America.
Um, but anybody who's reallyliving in a Western civilization
where the almighty dollar tendsto drive our behavior versus the
(31:02):
almighty God within you, thelove within you, the heart
within you that should reallydrive everything, you know?
So yeah, it's it's it'sinteresting.
And so I very much resonate withwhat you say because I'm I and
and I think the universe, God,however you want to say it, does
that where you're like, I'mgonna go be X.
(31:23):
And then the universe says, Oh,really?
Right.
Let's just see.
Do you really want to go dothat?
Because I'm gonna dangle thisover here.
What about this over here?
You're like, no, no, no, no, I'mgonna stay straight.
No, but what about this overhere?
And it's yeah, it's that it'sthat navigating, navigating that
space, and it's the balance ofsurvival versus truth within you
(31:45):
and allowing yourself to fullybecome who you came here to be.
And wouldn't that be amazing ifwe had a planet full of people
who came here to be fully whothey came to be versus you know,
just being the minions ofeverything that the news or the
media is telling you to do, justfollow that.
Like, no, like get connected tosource, get connected to who you
(32:05):
are, root in, and then you rise,and then you rise.
So, what else would you like toshare about this space of
becoming?
And you know, um, I would lovefor you to share, you know, how
how when when coaching the womenthat you work with, what are
things that you would offerthem?
If somebody came to you and yousaid, you know, she's in a state
(32:29):
of survival, she's in a and shehas all the stories of why it's
not working.
Yeah, what what would yousuggest?
What are things that you wouldoffer?
SPEAKER_00 (32:39):
Um, I would I would offer, I would say that I would
suggest them.
Um I help a lot, a lot withidentity crisis, because I
believe that a lot of people,you know, just go into identity
crisis mode and they like, Idon't know what I'm doing.
Uh all these things are notworking out.
What should I be doing?
And I think uh offering themthat, hey, let's just discover
(33:04):
who you are.
That that's what I offer.
Let's just discover who you are,where you're supposed to be.
Forget about, you know, what heor he or she said about you, but
who do you think that you are?
And so that's number one.
Let's let's discover, let's havea conversation about you
yourself.
Um, relationship is importantwhen you're working with uh
(33:27):
clients, relationship, gettingto know them so they can become
comfortable with you.
Because if they don't becomecomfortable with you and they
think that you're just like, youknow, everybody else trying to
talk them down, or you know,they won't come to you.
So I would say, you know,personal development and
identity crisis is somethingthat I work with a lot with
(33:49):
people before even connectingwith purpose.
Before you connect with purpose,you need to know your true
authentic identity exactly andwho you are.
SPEAKER_02 (34:00):
Yeah, because I think it's easy, um, especially
people who are parents, it'seasily it's easy to begin to see
your identity solely as theparent.
Right.
Um, or solely as the wife or thehusband, or solely as, you know,
the employee.
When I think again, in in aworld in a culture that's so
(34:23):
driven to keep you disconnected,to keep you working, to keep you
stressed.
Um there's a whole reason forthat too.
That's that's a whole anotherother conversation.
Yeah, they want to keep yousick, but right, you know, it is
very easy to lose who you are.
Yeah, forget who you are, and toforget the importance that you
(34:44):
know, you can't actually be yourthe best version of you for your
family if you don't even knowwho you are.
Right.
If you don't take that time toreally reflect in who you are
and pull back.
Yeah.
So um, you know, one of thereflection questions here that
was written down is, you know,where am I judging myself for
(35:08):
being behind?
And that goes back to, you know,what we were talking about, you
know, that trigger point is whenyou notice that you're over
there chasing something,whatever it is.
You're chasing something.
If you're chasing anything,whether it's a relationship, a
job, the money, you know, thehousehold chores, if you're
(35:29):
chasing it, you know, that'swhen you're in that survival
bone.
And I just want to say householdchores.
I don't know about you, but Ihave had to practice like the
house is dirty, the house isdirty, yeah, and the house is
just gonna stay dirty, andthat's okay, you know, because
when I was single, you neverknew I had dogs or cats.
The house was always so damnclean.
(35:50):
Now that you know, single mom,I'm like, well, the house is
dirty and it's okay.
But but even practicing that,yeah, because as a as a single
parent, you 10 o'clock at night,you're like, okay, I gotta do
the dishes now.
Okay, but I could do like youcan always find something else
to do.
SPEAKER_00 (36:08):
It's like you're we're always updoing something.
SPEAKER_02 (36:10):
It's like it's time to settle down.
Yes.
And and even last night I didit.
I was Tara, you're gonna sitright down and you're just gonna
sit and you're not gonna doanything.
But I was like, Oh, but I haveto do this PDF and I have to
write this up and I have to gowork on this other house, and la
da.
And I was like, Nope, it's seveno'clock, girl.
You have to give yourself time.
(36:31):
Like, you know, we have toremember to give ourselves that
time because that's thebecoming.
Those are the spaces, thesilence, the rest, the
relaxation.
Need it rest, yeah, the just thedecompression, the
decompression.
So, um, yeah, another thing youbrought up that I see here too,
(36:53):
that you brought up, uh, you usethe term season, and I love that
term season to talk about beforebecause I I know we'll wrap up
here soon, but I want to talk alittle bit more about the
seasons and those transitions ofseasons.
SPEAKER_00 (37:07):
Oh, you know what?
I'm glad that you say that,Tara, because um on my on season
one on um my first podcast, theDreaming Fearless Podcast, I
thought about different seasons.
Um and I there's another wordtoo, uh we probably didn't
mention, but it's it's calledcompromise.
And that's just like uhcomparing ourselves to other
(37:29):
people.
Um and I know in certain seasonswe try to compromise because
we're trying to get to the placewhere we need to get to.
The seasons, it's just like wehave four seasons, you guys,
like uh uh spring, winter, fall,and summer.
And it's like look just forinstance, we're in where we're
getting ready to enter the fall.
Um, I don't know what date fallis, but it's like um I'm not
(37:52):
gonna we're in summer, but I'mnot gonna try to catch it with
fall and get into fall.
It's like I'm trying to move andforce myself and push myself
into something where it's not myseason yet for that.
I have to embrace until I can, Igotta stay in summer basically.
Because you can't embrace theheat, y'all.
Embrace the heat, embraceembrace the heat, like uh feel
(38:15):
where you're in the sandals andstuff like that.
But it's like I'm gonna embracewhat's happening this summer.
This summer, there may be a lotof things, there may be some
good things going on, or theremay be some things that that's
not okay, but we'll work outlike you were saying, Terry, you
gotta speak positive.
I know this is gonna work outbefore you know it, but I need
to embrace the season that Ineed in because I can't try to
(38:37):
get the phone.
It's still summer.
I've got to wait until thatseason turns.
And I think a lot of us we we wedon't want to wait.
Um, we don't want to be patient.
Patient is a hard word.
I know it's easier said thandone, but we have to be patient
because everything takes time inits season.
So we have to be patient.
SPEAKER_02 (38:57):
It is everything takes time in its season, and I
love that because you canabsolutely bring it back to the
metaphor of the actual seasons.
Um, you know, a tree doesn'tjust grow overnight.
It it literally is there's thiswhole developing process
happening under the soil beforeit pops up in the soil, like
(39:18):
everything.
And as you were talking, Istarted thinking about I said,
now media and consumerism inAmerica, they will constantly
push you to be a season and getinto a new one three months
before the one.
They're like pushing you intowell, I'm sure Christmas is
gonna be coming out any day now.
Oh, yeah, and then they wanteverybody living in Christmas.
(39:41):
And it's like, and I'm one ofthose people, it's not that I
resist, and I used to work inthat industry, and so you know,
I used to work on the designside of that industry and then
the garment industry and thewhole seasons and the pushing.
And now, I mean, you know,Valentine's Day stuff is coming
out like on January, you know,and then Easter's coming out in
(40:02):
February, and it's like it's allabout pushing you to spend more
money, more money, more money.
Exactly.
And that I think that also cantrigger those it can trigger
your mindset to fall out of thepresence of your own season
because they're pushing andthey're driving it from a
consumer standpoint, and it'sconstantly thrown in your face.
(40:24):
And that's another anotheropportunity for you to recognize
where am I doing that to myself?
SPEAKER_00 (40:30):
Right, right.
SPEAKER_02 (40:31):
You know, you know, where am I?
If you don't have the six-figureincome, it's probably because
you're not ready for it.
You know, I haven't hit themulti-million dollar income
because I'd probably lose it allthe next day because I I'm not
in a place where I couldproperly, and I I like this
word, I don't know that I wouldbe a good steward of that kind
(40:55):
of money yet.
You are now can I build up tothat?
Yes, yeah, it's the same thing,right?
You don't have the love of yourlife in your relationships yet
or in your life.
Well, then there's somethingabout who you're being that you
need to look at.
Could you receive the love ofyour life or would you push him
or her away?
Right?
(41:15):
Have you healed enough in yourown heart that you can receive
that person or are you gonnapush them away?
And and you know, I I can'tstress it enough.
When when my girlfriend saidthat yesterday, she was like,
Yeah, you're my this mentor Iwas talking to said, you know,
I'm just not ready.
And I and I just I saw it in adifferent light that I'd never
(41:36):
seen it before.
Because it's not that we'resaying you're not ready, of
course you're ready, you'reready right now, right?
But the only person in the wayis you, therefore, you're not
ready because you're pushingsomething away, or you got some
stinking thinking, or somethingwith worth, or whatever it is.
Like God is like, hey, I'll giveit to you right now, but you're
(41:59):
in the way.
Exactly.
What do you have to get out ofthe way of?
And I feel like I'm collapsing afew things and going off.
SPEAKER_00 (42:05):
I'm glad that you say that because it made me
think about what I shared uhtoday on my culture hub on my
YouTube channel, that uh mosttimes we can be inconsistent
with our desires when we ask forsomething, we're not being
consistent.
Oh, because it hasn't came yet.
Oh, I don't know if I and I I'vedone that um some seasons ago,
and I even had to apologize andrepent for that.
(42:27):
I was like, um, just because itain't went my way or it ain't
came, I'm talking about, ohwell, I'm not even thinking
about it.
Are you telling the truth?
Do you really mean that?
So like be consistent with thedesires of your heart.
SPEAKER_02 (42:40):
Yes, I love that.
Be consistent with the desiresof your heart.
I got chills when you said that,and I'm getting chills right
now.
Yeah, because it is it is beingconsistent, yeah, with the
desires of your heart.
It's so important, and and verymuch what you just said.
You're sitting there saying, Iwant, I want, I want.
Well, it isn't here yet, so it'snever gonna happen.
(43:02):
And it's not no, it's gonnahappen, but you've got to stay
desiring it.
You have to stay, you have tolive as if it has already
happened.
I love it, yes, true, yeah, andyou just stand in that.
So, well, what would you like tosay to wrap things up today?
Because I and I just want to sayI've enjoyed, really enjoyed
(43:24):
having you on the show.
And for the listeners, we justher and I just met.
Like, I just met this beautifulwoman and she's like, I want to
be on your show.
I was like, What?
Really?
Okay, cool.
SPEAKER_00 (43:33):
And it just feel like and it just feels like
we've been knowing each otherfor so long.
So I'm so glad that I ran intoTara.
I um I just want to thank youfor having me and audience.
Thank you so much for listeningto this great conversation.
I just wanted to um justencourage you all to just be
you, be authentic, you um justsome small things that are um
(43:57):
coming up.
Um, I have um if you would liketo follow me, yes.
Please tell us where where theycan publicly know you on
YouTube, um, and Coach KarenOliver on Instagram official
linked in Oliver Facebook.
Um anything else out of there,there's social there's emails
(44:20):
and links where you can get theconsultation with people.
I didn't have an application.
I don't have a day actually tobecome it's actually women's
one, but um it's gonna basicallyum it's it's forcing the women
to single men.
(44:42):
Um slang and giants in my singleit's gonna say what is it
called?
SPEAKER_02 (44:48):
What is it called?
SPEAKER_00 (44:49):
Slinging giants in my single hood.
SPEAKER_02 (44:51):
Sling giants in my single hood.
I love that.
SPEAKER_00 (44:56):
Well, anybody can it it can be anybody and also need
a devotional baby boom where meand Tara was pretty much talking
to some about how you know weneed to grow and we need to grow
in different seasons of ourlife.
So actually, it talks aboutthat, and then and then it also
comes with a journal.
So if you would like tosubscribe to the email list,
(45:16):
just follow me on those socialmedia platforms so you can that
date comes out.
SPEAKER_02 (45:21):
And I'll have all of that in the show notes too.
So yeah, so I yeah, I'm justgonna wrap everything up.
I want to thank everybody forjoining us today on Rooted in
Rising and really just leavingall of you with, you know,
recognize when you're in thosestates of thinking you need to
be somewhere, thinking you needmore, thinking you have, you
(45:43):
know, you're not where youshould be, and just bringing it
back into center, presencingyourself and remembering that
you are in a state of becomingin that very moment, that very
moment, these like it's it'slike a flower.
It's like when a flower blooms.
Has anybody anybody listening?
If you if you go Google slowmotion flower blooming and watch
(46:07):
like a rose blooming in slowmotion, or I guess it's not slow
motion.
They think they like speed it upso then you can see the full
thing.
I mean, it's like you'remorphing into this beautiful
human being with all the layerspeeling, and whatever is showing
up for you in that moment isperfectly designed for you in
(46:27):
that moment to help you grow, tohelp you unfold, to help you
bloom, to help you.
And I what you said you have umwhat what what do you have that
something bloom?
SPEAKER_00 (46:37):
A shop a devotion called bloom baby bloom.
SPEAKER_02 (46:40):
Oh, bloom, baby bloom.
I love that.
Yes, because we are alwaysblooming.
Yes, we really are.
Well, I just want to say thankyou so much for for being with
us today.
Thank you, everybody.
We will see you on the nextepisode in two weeks here on
Rooted in Rising.
So stay tuned for the nextepisode and thanks y'all for
(47:01):
being here.
Thank you for rooting in andrising with me today.
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It helps the space grow andreach others on the path.
Until next time, may you walkwith trust, speak with love, and
(47:24):
rise in your own time.
I'm so grateful you were herewith us, and thanks for being
here.
We'll see you on the nextepisode.
Today we're going to talk about how you're not
behind, you're becoming.
That's right.
Because so often we feel likewe're behind in life, we're
behind in success, love, career,healing.
But what if you're not actuallybehind?
What if all you are is on time,becoming who you're meant to be.
(00:20):
Welcome to Rooted in Rising.
I'm your host, Tara Michelle,intuitive guide, storyteller,
and fellow traveler on this wildpath of becoming.
This is a space for the soulled, for the ones unraveling old
stories tending to their healingand rising.
Not perfectly, but powerfullyinto who they are here to be.
(00:40):
Here we explore what it means tolive with intention, to love
with depth, and to trust thateven the hard things are shaping
us.
I'll share pieces of my ownjourney, the cracks, the beauty,
the breakthroughs, and invitevoices who are walking this path
too.
Because I believe life isn'thappening to us, it's happening
for us.
(01:01):
So come as you are, root in andrise up.
And thank you.
Truly thank you for being here.
Today I'm excited because I havea beautiful guest with me by the
name of Karen Oliver, and we'regoing to discuss this topic
today, but a little bit aboutKaren.
She's a dedicated Master Lifecoach and health coach.
(01:21):
She has a strong commitment toempowering individuals in their
personal and professionaljourneys, and her expertise lies
in guiding her clients towardsachieving their goals and
improving their overallwell-being.
In addition to coaching, shealso operates a business academy
specifically designed forentrepreneurs through her
organization called WCD CoachingInc., which stands for Women
(01:46):
Committed to Dreams.
Strives to provide resources andsupport for women that are
pursuing entrepreneurialaspirations.
Karen is also a rising author.
She is the owner of FearlessDaughters Dream Apparel, an NKB
Cosmetics.
She hosts the We Dream Fearlesspodcast as well as Labor and
(02:09):
Love Podcast.
So I'm excited to be sharing herwith you today and excited about
this opportunity for us to talkabout this very topic.
So, all right, welcome, Karen.
Thank you so much for being onthe show today.
I'm so excited to have you.
It's just amazing.
And I love what you're up to andall the things you've created.
And I'm excited to share youwith the guests here.
(02:31):
So we're talking about howyou're not behind, you're
becoming.
And what I love about thistopic, and I wanted to really
dissect it with you, is becauseI feel so many people.
I'll say women, because I know alot of women listen to the show,
but just people in general wherewe feel behind.
We always feel like we're tryingto get somewhere, trying to
(02:53):
catch up, trying like it's notenough, it's not enough, it's
not enough.
We're chasing that carrot andoften comparing ourselves to
where other people are and towho they are versus, you know,
who we are.
And so I want to open this upand just share some more and
learn more about, you know,maybe sometimes you've felt that
(03:14):
way.
Um, especially given that youwork with so many women, you're
coaching women.
You know, when when you think ofthis topic, what is what comes
up for you?
SPEAKER_00 (03:25):
Well, I think of the topic that you just explained
about, especially that's thenorm, I think, Tara.
For a lot of us, like we thinkthat we're about to because we
think that everybody else is abecause like you said, we're
comparing to everybody.
So just you know, talk beingable to talk with other
(03:45):
professional individual, youknow, some young men.
You know, some young man, butmostly women because they're
like we're we're in the samething like users, uh I didn't
(04:24):
really know what I was supposedto be doing.
But then a lot of the peoplethat I was like, um I've just
been running away from it thewhole time because I'm always to
listen to others.
And a lot of people used to tellme to like you just sit down,
you have an ear to actuallylisten.
You say you're you're not justlistening, but you're intaking
(04:47):
what they're saying.
You have the patience to listento others and sympathize what
they're going through, whereversus other people can't, you
know, do that because it takesmore than to just listen.
You have to intake and you haveto sympathize and you have to be
able to connect with thatperson's story, what they've
been through, what they'resaying.
(05:08):
And you know, I I really neverthought about that.
And I got to thinking one day,and I was like, yeah, I do.
And you know, I when I startedthe group and I started the
group in 2017 on Facebook, I'mjust like, ah, you know,
everybody's doing similarthings.
I was like, maybe this is just aside thing.
I was like, uh, I don't reallywant to go through the hustle
(05:28):
and bustle.
I was just thinking about what Ididn't want to do, what Karen
didn't want to do.
SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
And I was like, I love it, what Karen didn't want
to do.
unknown (05:34):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (05:35):
Right.
And I'm like, uh, Karen, it'snot about you.
The light bulb came on duringthe pandemic.
It's not about you.
Um you you have a heart for forhelping people, like you said,
Tara, to become what they are.
You sympathize with them, youlisten.
So just because someone else isin the same nature, area, or
(05:55):
career that you are, you have adifferent, unique approach to a
different audience.
And that's what I had to sharewith the women.
I said, Yeah, I felt like thattoo, but I had to learn, you
know, Tara, I had to learn, Ihad to go to seminars, I had to
listen to other women who wasalready in the industry.
Yes.
Um, I had to find out what itwas that I needed to do in my
(06:17):
area, but first I had to learnfrom someone else and understand
their path and that I had tounderstand my path.
So, like you said, it's not thatyou're not that you're behind,
you're right where you'resupposed to be, because you have
to grow from you have to growfrom the area where you're at,
and you have to get to thatplace, and you have to be
(06:38):
comfortable with that placesometimes because sometimes you
may feel like you're behind, andthis person may be out there
speaking in front of thousandsor hundreds or whatever.
You may want to become aprofessional speaker through
through your coaching or throughwhat other area you're you may
be doing business-wise orentrepreneur-wise, but there is
(06:58):
something that we all have tolearn.
It's not that you're behind, isthat you have to stay in the
season that you're in until youget to the next season.
SPEAKER_02 (07:06):
I I love that you said the season, because I
think, you know, I just want tobring the listeners back.
This is that whole idea whenyou're comparing yourself.
You know, I'll I'll take anexample of my own life is that,
you know, I have stories aroundI don't have a bachelor's
degree.
I haven't finished it yet.
And so I have there, or there isa story like, oh, I can't get as
(07:30):
far as I want in my careerbecause that's holding me back.
Or, and, you know, and I can goget it at any point in time.
I have tried to get it in thepast, but it it didn't work out.
Um, you know, there's or I'm I'm54 now, so I should be making X
amount of money, or I should bein this kind of relationship, or
I or my child should be XYZ, or,or, you know, I should have so
(07:53):
many investments.
You know, we have these storiesthat I think are culturally
impressed upon us that youshould be somewhere at a certain
age and a certain time in yourlife.
And really, it it's it's notabout that because wherever you
are, like you said, is exactlywhere you were to be.
(08:14):
And somebody said to meyesterday, she was talking to a
mentor, a dear friend of mine,she was talking to a mentor, and
her mentor said, You're simplynot ready.
Like if you don't have the thingyou you say you want, it isn't
because you don't deserve it.
It isn't because you can'tachieve it.
It's because you're simply notready, because you are still
becoming whoever this person isto open yourself to whatever
(08:37):
that is that you think that youwant or or whatever it is, like
whatever thing you think youshould be at this time.
Yeah, you're you're not thatbecause you're not there yet.
And I don't even want to say, Idon't like saying it that you're
not there yet, because it reallyis about you are in that space
of becoming.
SPEAKER_00 (08:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (08:54):
And I think we often forget to even stop and look at
who have I become?
What have I accomplished?
What have I achieved at thispoint in time?
You know, who am I right now?
And I think that also takes usout of the present moment,
right?
Because we're always looking forwhat do I need?
What do I need?
What do I need?
Where can I be?
Where can I be?
What can I get?
(09:14):
What can I get?
Like that's it's like this weirdhuman condition in the Western
world.
I can't say it's like that foreverybody, but I mean in our
Western culture, it's very muchof where can I be?
Where can I get?
How am I gonna get there?
instead of who am I right now?
Who am I?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, it's it's uh it's amazing,it's amazing.
(09:37):
So, you know, I wanted to alsoask you when when was a turning
point for you?
Like in your journey, in yourlife, as opening up this
coaching practice, you have acosmetics business, you have
podcasts.
I mean, you are moving andshaking.
You are getting your voice outthere, you are being in your
(10:00):
truth, standing in your truth.
What was the turning point foryou, really, when you stopped
worrying about, you know, am Iever gonna get there or what do
I not have?
Like, what was the turning pointfor you?
SPEAKER_00 (10:14):
I would say the turning point, Tara, was I had
to get out of self and say, andand tell myself, Karen, you can
do this.
Um and I think the focal pointwas I can't think about or worry
about in the back of my mind ifI'm gonna make it or not.
Or if um I'm gonna fail or not,because what we need to realize
(10:36):
is that when you fail atsomething, fail failing is
success.
It's just it just means that youhave to go and pivot and you've
gotta do something else or dosomething different or whatnot.
So I had to take that off, takethat from the back of my mind
and say, you know, Karen, youknow, you have the resources
here, you have the help, goahead and do it.
And then I had to realize, waita minute, I'm just not subject
(10:59):
to one thing.
I realized that, okay, I can bea comma.
I know a lot of people be like,oh, what is that?
And um a lot of people now haveheard of it.
Like, a comment means I can, youknow, do more than one thing.
I can be whatever I want to be,I can take a shot at this,
especially if that's my calling.
And like you said before, justbrainstorming and asking
(11:22):
yourself the questions, am Isupposed to do this now?
Or I'm supposed to wait on this,or can I do can I do both, can I
start both of these brands?
Can I start both of thesebrands?
What do I need to start both ofthese brands and what help do I
need?
I know a lot of times we'll justgo ahead and start stuff and we
don't even ask anybody, but weneed help.
(11:42):
We have to ask others becauseothers have gone through trial
and error, and we'll have to doit too.
And so my turning point wasokay, um, I'm sitting up, I'm
brainstorming, and I waspreparing like two years before.
And I knew me being in thehealthcare industry and me
having my own problems inhealth, um, as well as um eating
(12:06):
the right thing, skincare andall that.
And I said, you know, um thename came to me, like I
prepared.
I had already written down thename and everything.
That's how I knew I was supposedto do it because I was preparing
for it and I took my time rightgetting things coming into your
life.
I was getting things coming, andthe names kept coming up, and I
was writing down, but I didn'tlike start them all together.
(12:30):
Like um, I was working on thecoaching practice for two whole
two whole years before I didthis.
SPEAKER_02 (12:36):
The others came together.
I have a quite a question inregards to that.
What what is the what was thebiggest mental challenge or the
mental construct that you had toovercome within you?
I know for me it's always beenself-worth of not enough or I'll
never be chosen.
Like I have these old patternsor stories from childhood.
(12:59):
What was the biggest one foryou?
Because I know a lot of peoplestruggle with that.
And yeah, share more about that.
SPEAKER_00 (13:07):
Um my my I think my mental challenge was was like,
am I going to get the supportthat I need?
SPEAKER_02 (13:14):
And am I supported?
SPEAKER_00 (13:15):
Yeah, and am I supported?
And then I had to realize, andyou know, talking with other
counselors, and they were like,you have to uh receive
rejection, you'll you'll have tobe able to accept it because
everybody that are is close toyou and maybe close to you may
not accept what you're doing.
SPEAKER_02 (13:35):
What's right?
SPEAKER_00 (13:36):
So I exactly so I had to kind of like accept that.
If I had to never talk toanybody or knew or just actually
confided in someone that Itrusted, I never would have
known that or whatever.
But sometimes it does hurt.
Let's like me talking aboutmental, let's be honest, it does
hurt when you when someone isnot supporting you that you
(13:57):
absolutely close to you when yousupport them.
SPEAKER_02 (14:00):
Yeah, yeah.
And you know, and it's funny,you know, I I think that
definitely is uh that's probablya subconscious line that runs in
the back of my mind too.
Like, I'm not supported.
And hey, anybody listening thatshows up as lower back pain,
when you have lower back pain,it's because you internally
believe that you're notsupported, you don't feel
supported in your life.
(14:20):
And I think uh, you know, it'sfunny, not that this
conversation is about this, butI always bring it back to that
is like that's when you fallback on God because God is
always supporting you.
And when you were talking aboutyou were hearing the names, you
were hearing the voices, likeyou hear, I just got chills, you
hear what your calling is whenyou allow yourself to surrender
and just be open to that journeyand be open to that process.
(14:43):
So it's yeah, it's reallybeautiful because I know it
takes something to be doing allthat you're doing.
Yeah.
It takes something, it takessomething, it takes commitment,
it takes drive, it takes courageto continually move past that
story of I don't, I don't thinkI'll be supported.
And then you just kept goinganyways.
You just kept going.
(15:03):
You kept going.
And now you have this amazing,you have all kinds of amazing
things going on, your coachingbusiness, your coaching
practice, your your podcast.
And yeah, it's it's amazing.
It's really amazing.
The thing that I really loveabout this topic that I don't
think gets focused enough on isoh yeah, there it is.
(15:25):
Like the whole contrast betweensurvival versus becoming.
And I think so often, I I knowfor myself as a single mother,
um, survival is a constant thingthat I have to battle against.
That that being in your, youknow, because when you're
operating from survival, you youdon't have clear choice, you
(15:47):
don't have powerful choice,you're you're often off, you're
often operating from purelysurvival, which then puts you in
this non-logical thinking, andyou can make choices that you
may regret.
And so when you're becoming inthis space, and that's where I
(16:08):
think that that it's a fine linewhen we're when we're worried
about where we're not, becausewhen we're worried about where
we're not, we are in survival.
SPEAKER_01 (16:19):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (16:19):
When we're in the present, that is really when
we're getting to soak in thatthat essence of who we are
becoming.
And I think that's a piecethat's really missed a lot.
So I would love to hear yourthoughts about that and what
you've seen for yourself, andmaybe even some things that you
do to pull you out of thatsurvival mode.
SPEAKER_00 (16:39):
I would say there's some things that are pull me out
of that survival mode, justknowing that um that I'm gonna
be taken care of, that thingsare gonna work out the way it's
gonna work out.
And you actually said itearlier, um, Tara, that you know
God supports um us 100%.
Like if if I if I know that,well, and if I believe that we
(17:02):
could know it, but it's aboutbelieving that I think uh more
so times we rely on people andhe's trying to get us out of,
you know, leaning on people somuch.
I know we have a relationshipwith people, but he wants us to
have a close connection with himand to know that hey, like you
can do this, you're that I'mgonna support you every step of
(17:25):
the way, even if no one elsedoesn't.
And so just taking myself out ofthe survival mode, even uh me as
well, um, Tara being a singlemother, my daughter, she's now
18, and uh the whole time that Iwas going through uh what
someone called it the fake, itcould be baby booze, it could be
just anything, even though I hada village, even though I had my
(17:47):
parents, because they havealways been a big part of me and
my daughter's life.
Um, you know, you still feellike it's it's it's just me
against the world, it's just meagainst the world.
And then, you know, God is like,well, what do you think about
what is I'm what do you thinkthat I'm doing?
I'm here with you.
Um, I may not be here with youphysically, but you can you can
(18:10):
feel me.
You can feel my presence and youcan see that I'm working things
out.
But even sometimes you just feellike that somebody needs to be
there.
Um, somebody needs to be thereto be able to understand you.
And you still feel like I'mdoing this all alone, but you're
really not.
You're really not, you're reallynot doing it all alone.
So it's like, let me take myselfout of survival mode and let me
(18:31):
go and do what I need to do formy family, for my children.
I know that this person mightmay not be a part of my child's
life or whatnot, but she has me,she has a village, or he has me,
and he has a village.
And so I have to know that I canmove along through the world
without worrying about it.
(18:52):
Somebody's gonna come to myrescue because I know.
SPEAKER_02 (18:55):
Right now, right.
I think too, you know, youthat's so like so many people
are waiting for somebody to cometo their rescue when the
somebody they're waiting for isright there in the mirror.
And that's like really lookingat who you are, and are you
going to rescue you?
SPEAKER_00 (19:16):
Because we that's good, right?
SPEAKER_02 (19:18):
Because we do put so much emphasis on who's gonna
save me, the government's gonnasave me, you know, the
corporation's gonna save me.
Yeah, the teachers gonna no,nobody, nobody's gonna save you.
It's that whole I always lovethat.
Um, I don't know if you knowthat that little story about the
man who there was a flood and hesaid, God, you know, save me.
(19:43):
And so, like a guy comes by on aboat and he says, No, God's
gonna save me.
And so then a guy comes by witha helicopter, no, God's gonna
save me until eventually hedrowns, and then he gets to
heaven and he's like, God, he'slike, I sent you a boat, I sent
you, you know, I sent you thehelicopter.
I sent you all the things, butyou didn't do anything with it,
you know, because you werelooking outside of yourself.
(20:05):
Yeah, we need saved, yes, andand and I think in this state of
becoming, uh, you know, and Itake it back to the title of
this podcast, Rooted and Rising.
When you are becoming, that'swhen you're really looking in
deep and you are rooting.
You are rooting in who am I?
(20:25):
What what resources can Iprovide for myself?
And not to say that youshouldn't look out there for
support, because there aredefinitely people there to
support you, right?
Right.
But it's it's it's um, I thinkit's a fine line again, shifting
from that victim mentality intoyour being your own hero.
(20:46):
And these, you know, I actuallysaid it in my very first
podcast, which is called Um,it's about being in the gap.
And that's when this show isIntuitive Mentor Mom.
I love that whole theory aboutbeing in the gap because that's
that space between that survivaland becoming, that's that space
where you think, oh, I don'thave enough, or I'm not, and I'm
(21:06):
I'm not in the career I shouldbe, and I don't have the role or
the title I should have, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah.
And that's when you're in thatsurvival mode.
And almost I would say thatwould be the trigger or the tool
for those of you listening isthat when you find that you're
having those conversations withyourself, like, oh, I don't have
the title, oh, I don't have theboyfriend or the girlfriend, or
(21:27):
oh, right, my kid isn't, youknow, getting XYZ at school, or
oh, oh, oh, whatever you thinkyou don't have or you're not
doing, that's the trigger tostop.
Because actually, if you stop,pull it all in and look around
your entire life and literally,I like to say, count your
(21:49):
blessings.
SPEAKER_00 (21:50):
Yes, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:51):
Like we woke up today.
That's a blessing.
I woke up.
SPEAKER_00 (21:55):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (21:56):
I woke up, yeah.
My son woke up.
Like, that's a blessing.
I got my son to school on time.
The car didn't break down, I gota job.
Like, those are the blessings,you know, or my health feels
okay today, or it's better thanyesterday, or hey, it doesn't
feel good today, but there'ssomething I can do about that.
(22:17):
It's like we start looking atthe things we've accomplished,
and that brings us back topresence versus worrying about
what we don't have.
SPEAKER_00 (22:26):
Yeah, like speaking positive, like all those
affirmations that you were justspeaking terror, like you were
just speaking positive.
I may not feel good now, but Ifeel a little bit better than I
did yesterday.
Right.
Um, you know, just speaking,like you said, those positive
informations.
SPEAKER_02 (22:41):
Yes, yes.
And I, you know, and IStephanie, I just saw a little
trigger word on here, income andmilestones.
Yeah, like I mean, income is abig one, I think, in this
country where the majority ofthe world is worried about not
making enough income andthinking they should make more
and trying to figure out howthey're gonna make more.
(23:01):
And I often talk about, youknow, what it would be like to
just sell it all and go to aquiet place where life isn't
such a grind like that, youknow?
Exactly.
Like where you could actually bepresent in your body, in your
life, with your family, withyour children.
(23:24):
And and that's hard, you know,as a single mom, a single woman,
single parent, period, man orwoman.
It's not easy in this country.
Exactly.
I'm constantly in my head aboutI'm not being present enough for
my son.
I'm not spending enough timewith my son.
And so then I remind myself whenI get caught up in that wheel,
I'm like, you know what, Tara?
Like I did last night, it wastime for bed.
(23:44):
I went and laid next to him, andwe just had a nice conversation
right before, you know, thelights were already out.
But I was like, I'm gonnasqueeze in some quality time
because I'm feeling like it'sI'm not giving him enough when
in fact I am.
But I'm gonna just go ahead andjust be present in this moment.
I'm not gonna worry about weneed to be in bed, it's 9 30.
Oh my god, you have to get up atthis time, and oh my god, we
(24:06):
need to be up at 5 30.
A little I was like, you knowwhat?
No, I'm just gonna lay here andtalk to him.
I'm not gonna worry about any ofthat stuff.
SPEAKER_00 (24:12):
Pressure moments, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (24:14):
Yeah, pressure.
SPEAKER_00 (24:15):
And I'm and when you say income, Tara, that that that
is the norm because I I I havebeen guilty of it.
I have to say I have been guiltyof it, but it's about walking,
like you said, walking in yourtruth and trusting the process.
Yes, we know that everythingtakes money, and a lot of us may
not be making what we desire tomake.
(24:35):
A lot of us are in theentrepreneurial world and we may
be working part-time orsomething on us.
I don't know, or maybe God hastold you that hey, stop focusing
on the income and focus on yourpurpose and your future, but you
gotta trust me for the incomepart, but our minds won't grasp
it.
That need to calm down.
SPEAKER_02 (24:55):
We could have a whole just a whole show just on
that, like trusting in God'sprocess to provide you that
income.
Let's talk about let's talkabout that because that's a big
one.
Tell me more, say more aboutthat, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (25:12):
Let's say for you, well, this is this is a true
story, even with me, and I'lljust share a little bit about me
to the audience, and I'mpreaching somebody out there
about it.
But I've been in healthcaresince you know working with
patients, and that's what Idecided to do with the role
integrating health coaching aswell.
(25:57):
Okay, so when I got PR like it,we'll work with different
doctors.
So recently I got PR.
SPEAKER_02 (26:07):
Tell the audience what PRN is.
SPEAKER_00 (26:09):
PR is a needed, so it's not you can make you can
make as many hours or as youwant, or you make less hours.
It's not a demand, they justactually pay if you work with
such a such while they're on thepatient.
You can work that you know,mostly people would take PR if
they have full composition.
But for me, I didn't have Idon't have the full composition.
(26:31):
I'm just getting my sport.
So I'm just PR and as I waslooking at these full
competition.
What if they take the taste orthe feeling away from you to get
more hours important?
That's like what you did.
So I was always available whensomebody was on vacation.
(26:53):
I was like, yeah, because I wastrying to get how would you guys
need it for the business andstuff like that.
But I was like, I just think itwas going to trust me when you
tell people to work.
So when they have colonies, likehow would you guys have in this
country store about me?
Really, I start looking at theproblem and I started saying no
(27:14):
because I know what I told Godand God was uh taking that that
feeling away.
Um because he said it's like youwant to work full-time for this
company when you have afull-time business, but you're
worried about the income.
So I stopped being availableevery time they called.
And they was like, Well, Karen,do you have a full-time position
(27:35):
yet?
And I said, Well, you all knowI'm full-time in my business.
And they was like, Oh, well, youknow, I was gonna I was gonna
get you some more hours.
And so my mom was looking at theincome, and then I heard the
Holy Spirit say, Oh, are yougonna trust me?
Or are you is this your company?
Are you gonna give your time tothis company and neglect yours
(27:55):
or what?
And so I stopped answering likejust yesterday.
They asked me, Can you work forsomebody?
And I was like, No.
And so that to me is totallywalking and walking on that path
to trusting, even though I don'tknow what's coming, that I still
have to walk that straight pathand trust.
SPEAKER_02 (28:15):
That's so funny you mentioned that because I'm in a
very similar situation rightnow.
I was laid off last week and uhin a very similar situation.
And I I opened up this practiceon the side called Sold Spaces,
where I go and do energyalignment for real estate agents
and property listings, and thatreally opened up it, it kind of
(28:35):
blew up the moment I launchedit.
And and so the day that Irelaunched this podcast, Rooted
in Rising, the next day I waslaid off.
I actually then had severalappointments with new clients,
and that that's just been a weeknow.
Um and there's a fear of like,oh God, I need to go get another
(28:56):
job, I need to go get anotherjob.
Uh-huh.
There's the other piece of like,well, maybe it's a part-time job
because I'm supposed to do thisjob because God has aligned and
opened this up for me, and it ismy purpose, it is my truth.
All these things startedbubbling up even with the
podcast because the podcast isyet another extension of the
truth of who I am.
(29:17):
And so it is funny, and it isthat piece, you know, those that
are listening, yeah, you have totrust and have faith, and that's
the scary part.
Oh, yeah.
And when I say scary, it's notlisten, here's true, here's true
story about me.
I mean, I've lost everythingbefore.
I've lost my house, I walkedout, my car was gone.
(29:38):
I was like, well, guess I gotrepo today, you know.
I was like, I have been there.
I have lost everything before.
And in this position that I'mat, I don't feel the fear or the
shame that I felt during thosetimes because that was many
years ago.
Now I just feel like, okay, God,I hear you.
(29:58):
I hear you, but you're gonnahave to show me.
And I think that's the otherpiece, is you have to ask.
And this is that's these arethose spaces of becoming, right?
This is where you're polishingyour stone, you're polishing
your who you are, and you'reyou're polishing your character.
And and I had told people in a acouple episodes back where I was
(30:19):
like, you want to ask yourself,you know, um, who were you for
yourself that day?
And and where did you take thestand for yourself?
You know, what are the thingsyou put in place to keep
shifting who you say you are inthis world?
You know, where and basicallywhat it's saying is where did
you sell out on yourself today?
And where did you choose not tosell out on yourself?
(30:40):
And and that's an interestingplace to be, especially in
America, where, and there's alot of people that I know that
listen to this show, you're nothere in America.
Um, but anybody who's reallyliving in a Western civilization
where the almighty dollar tendsto drive our behavior versus the
(31:02):
almighty God within you, thelove within you, the heart
within you that should reallydrive everything, you know?
So yeah, it's it's it'sinteresting.
And so I very much resonate withwhat you say because I'm I and
and I think the universe, God,however you want to say it, does
that where you're like, I'mgonna go be X.
(31:23):
And then the universe says, Oh,really?
Right.
Let's just see.
Do you really want to go dothat?
Because I'm gonna dangle thisover here.
What about this over here?
You're like, no, no, no, no, I'mgonna stay straight.
No, but what about this overhere?
And it's yeah, it's that it'sthat navigating, navigating that
space, and it's the balance ofsurvival versus truth within you
(31:45):
and allowing yourself to fullybecome who you came here to be.
And wouldn't that be amazing ifwe had a planet full of people
who came here to be fully whothey came to be versus you know,
just being the minions ofeverything that the news or the
media is telling you to do, justfollow that.
Like, no, like get connected tosource, get connected to who you
(32:05):
are, root in, and then you rise,and then you rise.
So, what else would you like toshare about this space of
becoming?
And you know, um, I would lovefor you to share, you know, how
how when when coaching the womenthat you work with, what are
things that you would offerthem?
If somebody came to you and yousaid, you know, she's in a state
(32:29):
of survival, she's in a and shehas all the stories of why it's
not working.
Yeah, what what would yousuggest?
What are things that you wouldoffer?
SPEAKER_00 (32:39):
Um, I would I would offer, I would say that I would
suggest them.
Um I help a lot, a lot withidentity crisis, because I
believe that a lot of people,you know, just go into identity
crisis mode and they like, Idon't know what I'm doing.
Uh all these things are notworking out.
What should I be doing?
And I think uh offering themthat, hey, let's just discover
(33:04):
who you are.
That that's what I offer.
Let's just discover who you are,where you're supposed to be.
Forget about, you know, what heor he or she said about you, but
who do you think that you are?
And so that's number one.
Let's let's discover, let's havea conversation about you
yourself.
Um, relationship is importantwhen you're working with uh
(33:27):
clients, relationship, gettingto know them so they can become
comfortable with you.
Because if they don't becomecomfortable with you and they
think that you're just like, youknow, everybody else trying to
talk them down, or you know,they won't come to you.
So I would say, you know,personal development and
identity crisis is somethingthat I work with a lot with
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people before even connectingwith purpose.
Before you connect with purpose,you need to know your true
authentic identity exactly andwho you are.
SPEAKER_02 (34:00):
Yeah, because I think it's easy, um, especially
people who are parents, it'seasily it's easy to begin to see
your identity solely as theparent.
Right.
Um, or solely as the wife or thehusband, or solely as, you know,
the employee.
When I think again, in in aworld in a culture that's so
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driven to keep you disconnected,to keep you working, to keep you
stressed.
Um there's a whole reason forthat too.
That's that's a whole anotherother conversation.
Yeah, they want to keep yousick, but right, you know, it is
very easy to lose who you are.
Yeah, forget who you are, and toforget the importance that you
(34:44):
know, you can't actually be yourthe best version of you for your
family if you don't even knowwho you are.
Right.
If you don't take that time toreally reflect in who you are
and pull back.
Yeah.
So um, you know, one of thereflection questions here that
was written down is, you know,where am I judging myself for
(35:08):
being behind?
And that goes back to, you know,what we were talking about, you
know, that trigger point is whenyou notice that you're over
there chasing something,whatever it is.
You're chasing something.
If you're chasing anything,whether it's a relationship, a
job, the money, you know, thehousehold chores, if you're
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chasing it, you know, that'swhen you're in that survival
bone.
And I just want to say householdchores.
I don't know about you, but Ihave had to practice like the
house is dirty, the house isdirty, yeah, and the house is
just gonna stay dirty, andthat's okay, you know, because
when I was single, you neverknew I had dogs or cats.
The house was always so damnclean.
(35:50):
Now that you know, single mom,I'm like, well, the house is
dirty and it's okay.
But but even practicing that,yeah, because as a as a single
parent, you 10 o'clock at night,you're like, okay, I gotta do
the dishes now.
Okay, but I could do like youcan always find something else
to do.
SPEAKER_00 (36:08):
It's like you're we're always updoing something.
SPEAKER_02 (36:10):
It's like it's time to settle down.
Yes.
And and even last night I didit.
I was Tara, you're gonna sitright down and you're just gonna
sit and you're not gonna doanything.
But I was like, Oh, but I haveto do this PDF and I have to
write this up and I have to gowork on this other house, and la
da.
And I was like, Nope, it's seveno'clock, girl.
You have to give yourself time.
(36:31):
Like, you know, we have toremember to give ourselves that
time because that's thebecoming.
Those are the spaces, thesilence, the rest, the
relaxation.
Need it rest, yeah, the just thedecompression, the
decompression.
So, um, yeah, another thing youbrought up that I see here too,
(36:53):
that you brought up, uh, you usethe term season, and I love that
term season to talk about beforebecause I I know we'll wrap up
here soon, but I want to talk alittle bit more about the
seasons and those transitions ofseasons.
SPEAKER_00 (37:07):
Oh, you know what?
I'm glad that you say that,Tara, because um on my on season
one on um my first podcast, theDreaming Fearless Podcast, I
thought about different seasons.
Um and I there's another wordtoo, uh we probably didn't
mention, but it's it's calledcompromise.
And that's just like uhcomparing ourselves to other
(37:29):
people.
Um and I know in certain seasonswe try to compromise because
we're trying to get to the placewhere we need to get to.
The seasons, it's just like wehave four seasons, you guys,
like uh uh spring, winter, fall,and summer.
And it's like look just forinstance, we're in where we're
getting ready to enter the fall.
Um, I don't know what date fallis, but it's like um I'm not
(37:52):
gonna we're in summer, but I'mnot gonna try to catch it with
fall and get into fall.
It's like I'm trying to move andforce myself and push myself
into something where it's not myseason yet for that.
I have to embrace until I can, Igotta stay in summer basically.
Because you can't embrace theheat, y'all.
Embrace the heat, embraceembrace the heat, like uh feel
(38:15):
where you're in the sandals andstuff like that.
But it's like I'm gonna embracewhat's happening this summer.
This summer, there may be a lotof things, there may be some
good things going on, or theremay be some things that that's
not okay, but we'll work outlike you were saying, Terry, you
gotta speak positive.
I know this is gonna work outbefore you know it, but I need
to embrace the season that Ineed in because I can't try to
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get the phone.
It's still summer.
I've got to wait until thatseason turns.
And I think a lot of us we we wedon't want to wait.
Um, we don't want to be patient.
Patient is a hard word.
I know it's easier said thandone, but we have to be patient
because everything takes time inits season.
So we have to be patient.
SPEAKER_02 (38:57):
It is everything takes time in its season, and I
love that because you canabsolutely bring it back to the
metaphor of the actual seasons.
Um, you know, a tree doesn'tjust grow overnight.
It it literally is there's thiswhole developing process
happening under the soil beforeit pops up in the soil, like
(39:18):
everything.
And as you were talking, Istarted thinking about I said,
now media and consumerism inAmerica, they will constantly
push you to be a season and getinto a new one three months
before the one.
They're like pushing you intowell, I'm sure Christmas is
gonna be coming out any day now.
Oh, yeah, and then they wanteverybody living in Christmas.
(39:41):
And it's like, and I'm one ofthose people, it's not that I
resist, and I used to work inthat industry, and so you know,
I used to work on the designside of that industry and then
the garment industry and thewhole seasons and the pushing.
And now, I mean, you know,Valentine's Day stuff is coming
out like on January, you know,and then Easter's coming out in
(40:02):
February, and it's like it's allabout pushing you to spend more
money, more money, more money.
Exactly.
And that I think that also cantrigger those it can trigger
your mindset to fall out of thepresence of your own season
because they're pushing andthey're driving it from a
consumer standpoint, and it'sconstantly thrown in your face.
(40:24):
And that's another anotheropportunity for you to recognize
where am I doing that to myself?
SPEAKER_00 (40:30):
Right, right.
SPEAKER_02 (40:31):
You know, you know, where am I?
If you don't have the six-figureincome, it's probably because
you're not ready for it.
You know, I haven't hit themulti-million dollar income
because I'd probably lose it allthe next day because I I'm not
in a place where I couldproperly, and I I like this
word, I don't know that I wouldbe a good steward of that kind
(40:55):
of money yet.
You are now can I build up tothat?
Yes, yeah, it's the same thing,right?
You don't have the love of yourlife in your relationships yet
or in your life.
Well, then there's somethingabout who you're being that you
need to look at.
Could you receive the love ofyour life or would you push him
or her away?
Right?
(41:15):
Have you healed enough in yourown heart that you can receive
that person or are you gonnapush them away?
And and you know, I I can'tstress it enough.
When when my girlfriend saidthat yesterday, she was like,
Yeah, you're my this mentor Iwas talking to said, you know,
I'm just not ready.
And I and I just I saw it in adifferent light that I'd never
(41:36):
seen it before.
Because it's not that we'resaying you're not ready, of
course you're ready, you'reready right now, right?
But the only person in the wayis you, therefore, you're not
ready because you're pushingsomething away, or you got some
stinking thinking, or somethingwith worth, or whatever it is.
Like God is like, hey, I'll giveit to you right now, but you're
(41:59):
in the way.
Exactly.
What do you have to get out ofthe way of?
And I feel like I'm collapsing afew things and going off.
SPEAKER_00 (42:05):
I'm glad that you say that because it made me
think about what I shared uhtoday on my culture hub on my
YouTube channel, that uh mosttimes we can be inconsistent
with our desires when we ask forsomething, we're not being
consistent.
Oh, because it hasn't came yet.
Oh, I don't know if I and I I'vedone that um some seasons ago,
and I even had to apologize andrepent for that.
(42:27):
I was like, um, just because itain't went my way or it ain't
came, I'm talking about, ohwell, I'm not even thinking
about it.
Are you telling the truth?
Do you really mean that?
So like be consistent with thedesires of your heart.
SPEAKER_02 (42:40):
Yes, I love that.
Be consistent with the desiresof your heart.
I got chills when you said that,and I'm getting chills right
now.
Yeah, because it is it is beingconsistent, yeah, with the
desires of your heart.
It's so important, and and verymuch what you just said.
You're sitting there saying, Iwant, I want, I want.
Well, it isn't here yet, so it'snever gonna happen.
(43:02):
And it's not no, it's gonnahappen, but you've got to stay
desiring it.
You have to stay, you have tolive as if it has already
happened.
I love it, yes, true, yeah, andyou just stand in that.
So, well, what would you like tosay to wrap things up today?
Because I and I just want to sayI've enjoyed, really enjoyed
(43:24):
having you on the show.
And for the listeners, we justher and I just met.
Like, I just met this beautifulwoman and she's like, I want to
be on your show.
I was like, What?
Really?
Okay, cool.
SPEAKER_00 (43:33):
And it just feel like and it just feels like
we've been knowing each otherfor so long.
So I'm so glad that I ran intoTara.
I um I just want to thank youfor having me and audience.
Thank you so much for listeningto this great conversation.
I just wanted to um justencourage you all to just be
you, be authentic, you um justsome small things that are um
(43:57):
coming up.
Um, I have um if you would liketo follow me, yes.
Please tell us where where theycan publicly know you on
YouTube, um, and Coach KarenOliver on Instagram official
linked in Oliver Facebook.
Um anything else out of there,there's social there's emails
(44:20):
and links where you can get theconsultation with people.
I didn't have an application.
I don't have a day actually tobecome it's actually women's
one, but um it's gonna basicallyum it's it's forcing the women
to single men.
(44:42):
Um slang and giants in my singleit's gonna say what is it
called?
SPEAKER_02 (44:48):
What is it called?
SPEAKER_00 (44:49):
Slinging giants in my single hood.
SPEAKER_02 (44:51):
Sling giants in my single hood.
I love that.
SPEAKER_00 (44:56):
Well, anybody can it it can be anybody and also need
a devotional baby boom where meand Tara was pretty much talking
to some about how you know weneed to grow and we need to grow
in different seasons of ourlife.
So actually, it talks aboutthat, and then and then it also
comes with a journal.
So if you would like tosubscribe to the email list,
(45:16):
just follow me on those socialmedia platforms so you can that
date comes out.
SPEAKER_02 (45:21):
And I'll have all of that in the show notes too.
So yeah, so I yeah, I'm justgonna wrap everything up.
I want to thank everybody forjoining us today on Rooted in
Rising and really just leavingall of you with, you know,
recognize when you're in thosestates of thinking you need to
be somewhere, thinking you needmore, thinking you have, you
(45:43):
know, you're not where youshould be, and just bringing it
back into center, presencingyourself and remembering that
you are in a state of becomingin that very moment, that very
moment, these like it's it'slike a flower.
It's like when a flower blooms.
Has anybody anybody listening?
If you if you go Google slowmotion flower blooming and watch
(46:07):
like a rose blooming in slowmotion, or I guess it's not slow
motion.
They think they like speed it upso then you can see the full
thing.
I mean, it's like you'remorphing into this beautiful
human being with all the layerspeeling, and whatever is showing
up for you in that moment isperfectly designed for you in
(46:27):
that moment to help you grow, tohelp you unfold, to help you
bloom, to help you.
And I what you said you have umwhat what what do you have that
something bloom?
SPEAKER_00 (46:37):
A shop a devotion called bloom baby bloom.
SPEAKER_02 (46:40):
Oh, bloom, baby bloom.
I love that.
Yes, because we are alwaysblooming.
Yes, we really are.
Well, I just want to say thankyou so much for for being with
us today.
Thank you, everybody.
We will see you on the nextepisode in two weeks here on
Rooted in Rising.
So stay tuned for the nextepisode and thanks y'all for
(47:01):
being here.
Thank you for rooting in andrising with me today.
If something in this episodestirs something in you, take a
breath, take what you need, andlet the rest soften.
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It helps the space grow andreach others on the path.
Until next time, may you walkwith trust, speak with love, and
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rise in your own time.
I'm so grateful you were herewith us, and thanks for being
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We'll see you on the nextepisode.
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