Facing Fear and Finding Purpose Out on the Road

In this inspiring episode, I (Patti Hunt) sit down with transformational coach and podcast host Gregory Russell Benedikt to explore the themes of purpose, reinvention, and embracing adventure. Gregory shares how he left behind a traditional path to create a life of meaning, travel, and fulfillment. Through vulnerable storytelling and practical wisdom, he guides listeners on how to pursue their own version of success while living life on their terms. Whether it’s the RV LIFE or not. this episode is a must-listen for anyone craving more freedom, purpose, and authenticity.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What is stopping you from living the life you dream
of?
I'm Patti Hunt and you'relistening to the RV Life Podcast
.
Gregory, what is the boldestthing you've ever done?
That started with 10 seconds ofcourage.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
What a great question .
I think, off the top of my head, the boldest thing that I've
ever done that took 10 secondsof what I call terrifyingly bold
action is knocking on astranger's door and asking if I
could jump in his swimming pool.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Wow, and we're going to have to hear that whole story
in just a little bit.
I want to give some of my newerlisteners a little background
about me.
Four years ago I was living inLas Vegas when COVID hit and, as
so many other people, ourbusiness shut down.
So I was living with my husband, Dan.

(00:58):
Business was totally shut downand after several months of that
he called me up to his officeand he said hey, let's sell
everything, buy an RV and travelthe country full time.
And I literally laughed,thinking that he was kidding.
And when I looked up andrealized this man was serious, I
had all kinds of doubt,questions, fear I'm going to say

(01:22):
terrifying fear like what areyou talking about?
What will this look like?
Because I was a person thatneeded to be able to plan and
see what things look like.
But I decided after about threemonths of researching and
looking into it that I was goingto take some bold action and
just jump in.

(01:43):
And so that's what we did andwe had an amazing time.
We traveled full time for overthree years and then, a year ago
, my husband got ill and hebecame cognitively impaired and
he is now in a nursing home andhe is now in a nursing home.
So now, here I am again withmajor change.

(02:06):
And now what do I do?
I needed to have lots ofcourage, I guess, not to just
throw in the towel and give up.
Instead, I decided to keepgoing, and so we'll talk more
about that story.
But I get this idea of boldaction.
I get this idea of bold actionand I know today, Gregory, you

(02:40):
are going to give us so muchgreat ideas, thoughts,
suggestions, tips, help with howto take that, entertain and
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live life to the fullest and Iknow Gregory and I, we have that
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(03:07):
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(03:29):
They are, as I said, amazingcampgrounds.
But let's jump in.
Gregory is on a mission to livea story worth telling while
helping others do the same.
He is a TEDx speaker and an ICFcertified coach who specializes
in helping people get thethings that money can't buy.

(03:50):
He believes what we want mostin life happiness, meaning,
fulfillment and purpose can't bebought.
Rather, they come as abyproduct of having the courage
to pursue our biggest dreams andlive a life true to ourselves.
Through his coaching andspeaking, Gregory inspires
audiences to face their fears,take bold action and live a

(04:13):
story worth telling.
Welcome, Gregory Benedict, tothe RV Life Podcast.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Thank you so much for having me, Patti.
I am really excited to talk toyou today for having me.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Patti, I am really excited to talk to you today.
I am so excited.
This has been a long timecoming, but we have got to go
back and tell the story aboutknocking on somebody's door and
asking to swim in their pool.
Got to tell us about that.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yes, and this wasn't when I was seven years old, when
it would have been normal.
This was when I was 28 yearsold.
I was a full grown man with amustache, and this was all part
of a 100 days of rejectionchallenge that I embarked on.
So my TEDx talk was all aboutthis idea.
I had that fortune favors thebold, which is this great quote

(05:01):
that I'm sure everyone listeninghas heard of.
What if that wasn't just a coolquote but really a formula for
how the universe works?
And the reason I started tothink about this is because
anytime I would take bold action, I would get out of my comfort
zone.
I would do something that mademy palms sweat.
Every time I did that,something seemed to immediately
happen in my life.

(05:21):
That was really positive.
And so I embarked on this 100day challenge of taking bold
action and talking to strangersaround San Diego, where I live,
to put this hypothesis to thetest.
And so this instance happenedon day number four of 100.
I got really lucky that thiswas at the beginning of my
journey and not the end, becauseI knock on this stranger's door

(05:42):
, I put on a smile and I say hi,my name is Gregory, and I was
wondering if I could jump inyour swimming pool.
And this man looks back at me,starts laughing and he says sure
, I don't see why not.
And so from there we film likea 10 second video of me
cannonballing in a swimming pool.
I post that on Instagram and itgoes viral, gets over 350,000

(06:03):
views, and then for theremaining 96 days of my
challenge, I have people on theinternet telling me what I
should do next, cheering me on,and it was just such a beautiful
experience and a scaryexperience.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
And that's the big thing scary.
It was the same thing withgoing RVing really scary.
I want people to know what I'verealized that I thought as I
did things that kind of scaredme out of my comfort zone.
I always looked at the person,for instance, speaking on stages
.
So many years ago I would noteven have thought about speaking

(06:39):
on the stage, but I was in abusiness where that was just
part of it.
It scared me to death.
I looked at people who wereincredible speakers.
They were dressed perfect, theysounded perfect, they talked
perfect, they walked perfect,they looked perfect, they were
perfect.
They must have been doing thisfrom the time they were born.
They don't understand for mehow hard it is.

(07:04):
And I was in the position whereI was going to get on stage and
I talked to this these peoplewho were mentors of mine and I
said I said all that to them,but you don't understand, I have
no skills.
You had the skills and theycleared that up very quickly
because he said to me the onlydifference between you and me is
that I was willing to face myfear and do it.

(07:27):
He said that's the onlydifference.
He said I was scared, I didn'tknow how to talk, I didn't know
how to speak, I didn't know howto walk, I didn't know how to
dress, and that just made it soreal and I know we're really
jumping in quickly here and I'dlove that.
I do want to go back though alittle bit with the backup,
because I want people to trulyknow who you are.

(07:49):
When you and I spoke, we hadthis amazing conversation.
I don't know how long it wenton and I finally got to'm 29.
I'm going to be 30 soon, and Iwas blown away because the way

(08:12):
that you spoke and the just yourknowledge, you sounded like
somebody way older, somebody whohad life experience from you
know, like a 50 year old, and soyou did have some things that
led you to this.

(08:32):
So can you give my listenerssome of the backstory of how you
got to where you are at such ayoung age?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Absolutely so.
I have turned 30.
At this point, I'm four monthsinto being 30.
And I just want to say thankyou so much for all the kind
words, and I know I told youthis when we spoke, but I am an
old soul.
I'm at least 96 at heart, somaybe that's where some of these
ideas and words come from, butreally a lot of it is from
experience.

(09:02):
And so, going all the way back,I always tell people that my
life got interesting in 2020, asI'm sure it did for a lot of
your listeners.
In 2020, there I was.
I was working my dream job, orwhat I thought was my dream job.
I was working in private equity.
I studied finance undergrad.
My senior project was thisvaluation competition Like I

(09:22):
lived and breathed finance and Ithought that's what I wanted to
do with my whole life.
And then, about two and a halfyears into it, I took a look
around and I realized that thisis not what I wanted to do for
the rest of my life.
I was feeling very uninspired,unfulfilled.
I felt like my life had nomeaning.
And now the world was in thisbig period of chaos, of turmoil,

(09:43):
and I realized that I don'twant to be here in 30 years, and
if I don't act now, if I don'tdo something when the world is
on fire and no one knows what'sgoing on, then I'm probably
going to blink and I'm going towake up and I'm going to be 55,
working in finance and saying,dang, what happened?
I didn't want to settle, buthere I am, and so I took bold

(10:05):
action.
Probably for the first time inmy entire life, I quit my job in
finance and I trusted in theuniverse, in the unknown, and
I'm going to take a step backhere and say why I did all of
this, because the beginning isso important.
I was listening to a podcast andI learned about the top regrets
of the dying podcast and Ilearned about the top regrets of

(10:28):
the dying.
So not only it turns out thatnot only do most of us end up on
our deathbeds with serious endof life regret, but that we're
all so similar that thisbeautiful woman, author, bronnie
Ware, was able to compile thetop five regrets of the dying
into a book, and she found out,after working with 500 plus
patients on their deathbed, thatmost people get to the end of

(10:49):
their life and they say, wow, Iwish I would have had the
courage to live a life true tomyself, not the life others
expected of me.
And when I heard that again, Iwas 24, about to turn 25 at that
point and it just punched me inthe face because I realized
that my entire life, from how Iacted to who I was friends with,

(11:09):
to the activities I did, to thejob I was working, it was all
based on other people'sexpectations of me.
And I was wearing a mask,desperately trying to fit in.
And so I heard that I let itsimmer for a couple months and
then that's when I realized Ihave to quit my job in finance.
I need to take off this maskI've been wearing and tell the
world what I really want, andwhen I did that, the most

(11:33):
beautiful things unfolded.
But I'll pause there for amoment.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
That is actually where we connected.
So I met you through somebodyelse.
I had to get his name, mishka,I think it was Misha, yeah,
misha, and so I'll put his namein the show notes, but I had
been connected to him.
I was scrolling through hispodcast and saw your episode and

(11:58):
it said the five top regrets ofthe dying Top Regrets of the
Dying.
It's almost two years now.
I was sitting with my motherwhile she was in hospice.
I came across that book and Iread it and it was so incredibly
powerful, so incrediblymeaningful.
As you're talking about it,emotions are coming up for me

(12:21):
because that book absolutelylife-changing Unfortunately, I
read it way later in life, I'm alot older than you but
absolutely life-changing becausewe get to the end of our lives.
And I sat there with my motherfor six months.
She was totally conscious, shewas, you know, talking.

(12:45):
She had three kids, threegrandkids and five great
grandkids that she wasincredibly grateful for, but she
absolutely regretted most ofher life.
She never did anything, shenever took any action, let alone
bold action and I shouldn't saynever, that's a strong word.

(13:06):
But in listening to her as shetalked about the things she
wished she had done and soreading that book while I was
sitting with her just again lifechanging.
So I'm going on and on about it.
I highly recommend it.
Everybody should read it.
The five type, the five topcommunity I have people on all

(13:28):
the time when I have a guest onand I talk about why did you

(13:51):
start RVing?
And it's usually becausesomebody died a near-death
experience.
I didn't want to go throughlife doing the same thing.
I decided to quit my job.
Covid hit and it was my chanceto just go all in and live life
fully.
And so the connection is hereNow I want you to help my

(14:14):
listeners.
Some of my listeners arefull-time RVers, some are
part-time, some are some time.
And then there's those peoplethat are thinking about this RV
lifestyle.
I have people all the time sayto me oh, I wish I could do that
.
I would love to go RV, I wouldlove to travel the country, just
to travel, just to go out ofyour comfort zone.

(14:35):
So I know I went on for alittle bit there, but let's talk
about that.
When you say bold action and tosome degree that's a little
scary sounding, but it doesn'thave to be this huge step.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Right, we could take little steps for the big dream,
the bucket list item, we reallyneed to break it down into what
I call bite-sized, bold actions.
Because if you try and chew thewhole thing, the whole big dream
, at once, you won't work, andthat's why so many people sadly

(15:14):
die with unfulfilled dreams,unchecked bucket list items,
because who you are today is notwho you need to become in order
to handle that dream.
So if you can break it down likelet's just use the RV, like
let's travel the country as anexample, step number one isn't
buy an RV and go out on the roadtomorrow and sell all your

(15:35):
things.
Step number one is probablyresearch when do I want to go?
What kind of an RV do I want?
Do I know anyone in my lifewho's ever done this before?
Can I do like a one week RVtrip first to see if I even like
living in an RV?
Like there's so many steps wecan take between where we are
today and where we want to go.
But what so many, so many of us, myself included, get stuck at

(15:57):
is we look and we see the bigthing and we're like, oh man, I
couldn't possibly do that fiveyearyear trip around the US in
an RV.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
So it's really taking bite-sized pieces.
And I'm going to go back to ayear ago.
My husband became ill Again forpeople who don't know this
story, he had a number ofstrokes that left him
cognitively impaired and he isnow in a nursing home with no
hope of recovering.
So I'm left with.

(16:28):
My whole life now is changed.
We didn't have a home.
We had an RV that I never drove, could not drive.
Well, I could have learned toif I wanted to, but I had never
driven.
We come back to Pennsylvania,where we have family and support
, and you know, honestly, at myage there was a big piece of me

(16:49):
that was just like let me justgive up throwing the towel.
I didn't have a home, my carbroke down two months later, my
husband's now in a nursing home.
This plan of traveling thecountry and living this life and
parking the RV somewhere andbeing settled in this beautiful

(17:09):
area, you know, just totallytorn away, and so I feel like it
was that let me take one step,put one step in front of the
other, finding the courage.
You know what?
I look back and I can'thonestly say I even know how I
did it.
I'm giving this story becauseanybody out there right now

(17:30):
saying but you don't understandwhat my life's like, you don't
know how hard it is, you don'tknow the challenges I've been
through.
I'm trying to make it like itdoesn't matter what you've been
through, it doesn't matter whatyou're going through.
People can come out of it andagain, as I said, I'm way older
than you, so even at my age Icould find my way to pull myself

(17:52):
out of it.
So what do you say to peoplethat are like, hey, it's too
late for me or you don'tunderstand all the stuff that
I've been through?
What do you say?
How do you handle that?

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, this is a great question.
I think there's two things thatimmediately come up.
One misconception that I wantto dispel whenever I'm talking
about this kind of stuff is thatwe need to get over the fear
first.
We need to overcome the fear,we need to work through it all,
we need to be confident andcourageous and fully put
together before we take action.

(18:27):
That is absolutely not true,because for most of us, we're
very human and the fear isalways going to be there.
So I always tell people thatthe fear is fine.
Honestly, the fear is anindication that you are normal
and you're human and you're nota psychopath.
So if you're feeling feartowards these things, you want
to do fantastic, wonderful,you're normal, you're perfect.

(18:48):
And the next piece is it isgoing to be uncomfortable, and
that is by design.
And my whole message is aroundhow the universe rewards bold
action.
The universe is watching, andwho honestly cares if that's
true, figuratively, or if it'sjust a metaphor?
But if you're willing toconsistently get out of your

(19:09):
comfort zone and take actionbefore you are ready, that's
when these little magic momentshappen.
We talked about it on our firstcall.
That's the synchronicity, theserendipity.
You trust and you take action,despite being scared, and you
meet the right people,opportunities start to open up.
And regardless of your specificsituation, you're asking okay,

(19:30):
what do I tell people whenthey're like you don't
understand my story, mybackground, my XYZ.
What I say to that is thatgreat, you can still get out of
your comfort zone.
And the best part about gettingout of your comfort zone is it
doesn't care about you.
It doesn't care that you haveall these things going on in
your life.
The only thing the universewants to see is that you move

(19:51):
your body through space and timeto get uncomfortable in some
pursuit of a goal, of a dream,because that's really what I
believe the universe wants forall of us.
It wants us to go after thethings we want most in life, and
the bad things that havehappened to us are just
obstacles and really tests tosee if we're still willing to go

(20:13):
, if we're ready to go, getaction, go get uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
There's so much here.
I want to talk first about thewhole idea of fear.
I always thought that peoplegot over their fear, they got
past it, they overcame it, theygot on stage and they weren't
afraid anymore.
And it's funny because I'vebeen on stage now in actually
places around the countryoutside of the country.
So, but there's still that fear.

(20:40):
And this last week I was with afriend who was giving a speech I
had thought he had given many.
He was fine.
He was like no, it's scary.
And I said the same thing.
I said everybody is afraid.
Before they get on stage or I'mdoing the podcast, it used to
scare me to death.
I could have never imagineddoing the podcast alone.

(21:09):
It was Dan and I that did it.
I knew I had a fallback planand when push came to shove I
had to deal with the fear, knowthe fear was there and be okay
with still doing it anyway.
And so what I said to my friendwas, yes, it's scary the whole
thinking about people withouttheir clothes on.

(21:30):
I don't know that that works.
I'm not sure that works reallywell, but it's finding things
that do work for you.
I think the biggest thing for mewas when it was acknowledged
that when people get on stage,they're afraid.
It will get easier over time,just acknowledging that.
Just like you said, I'm stillokay, I'm good, I'm perfect.

(21:53):
I'm like everybody else.
I get scared too.
So that is a huge thing that Iwant to emphasize for people.
Once I made the decision to goout in the RV, did I get over my
fear?
Did I overcome it?
Did I figure it all out and say, okay, well, I'm set now, I'm
not afraid?
Heck, no, it was scary, it wasincredibly scary.

(22:16):
And doing it anyway, wow, whenyou're on the other side of that
, when you're on the other sideof something that you do the
first time you speak on stage ordo something big, there is an
incredible feeling there, right,I mean you know, if I can just

(22:36):
speak to that, that is the bestfeeling I have found in this
entire world.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
It's that everything you want is on the other side of
fear, and if you're willing togo there and search for it, you
get this cathartic release.
That's like nothing you've everhad before.
You know what it's like,everyone listening.
It's that feeling of aliveness.
You feel like you're actuallythe main character in a
superhero movie.
You're not just going throughyour life on autopilot.

(23:01):
And I want to just share twomore things about this fear not
going away thing, because that'sthe most crippling,
debilitating belief that keepspeople stuck is, oh, it's easy
for them, they aren't scaredanymore.
But me, I have all this fear,so I can't do it.
So two things I'll say aboutthis.
One is that I'm making it ahuge part of my mission and my

(23:22):
movement and the things I talkabout to always highlight that I
am always sweating through myshirt.
So right now I have sweaty pits, my palms are sweating and like
I embrace that and I celebrateit, because when I was in high
school, oh my gosh, like havingsweaty pits was like the worst
thing that ever could havehappened to me.
I was so scared of it.
So now I'm celebrating itbecause it means that I am
living a story worth telling.

(23:43):
I'm doing something thatmatters.
And the second piece for anyonewho listens to this podcast and
ends up watching my TEDx talk,it will probably look like I was
pretty comfortable up there.
And there's two reasons why.
The first is that I practiced.
I have this little timerclicker thing on my desk.
It's like what the bouncerholds to count how many people

(24:04):
walk into the bar.
I practiced that talk 108 timesbefore I got on stage.
So I had done it so many timesin so many operating
environments that I knew thateven if I was completely
mentally blacked out up there,that the words would still come
out because it was a part of me.
And second, speaking of sweatypits, I custom cut an undershirt

(24:26):
to wear under the sweater thatI was wearing, because I was
like, if I don't wear anundershirt under this, I'm going
to sweat through it.
So I always want people to knowthat whenever I'm doing
something even this podcast I'mstill scared.
It gets easier in that I've nowstarted to view the fear as fun
and an indicator that I'm doingsomething that matters.

(24:47):
But I think my bodyphysiologically, will always
still respond with that fearapprehension response which we
can always talk about.
This too is actually the exactsame physiological response as
excitement.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
And I used to say that.
And so so much here and in somany different directions, my
head's going in all differentplaces, because these are things
that I know.
For people to truly live thattheir life to the fullest, to
live a story worth telling,they've got to acknowledge this,

(25:22):
so we're going to be sayingthis over and over again.
One of the things we talkedabout and I know we're bouncing
around are the challenges.
I believe that the challengesthat we're whether people
believe in God, spiritual,whatever they believe in it
doesn't matter.
We all have challenges in ourlife.
Some are worse than others,some seem unbearable, whatever

(25:49):
that looks like.
I think those challenges thatare brought to us can lead us to
a next step, to somethingbigger and better.
And for some people, especiallyif somebody is going through
something right now, that mightbe a tough pill to swallow, but
I believe that in my heart ofhearts.

(26:09):
I was with my mother in ahospice when Dan became ill.
She passed away and he hadalready had a stroke that I
wasn't aware of.
The way he was acting wastotally out of character, so I
did not have his support, andthis is something I have not
shared before.
And then for the six, ninemonths after burying my mother.

(26:37):
He is dealing with healthissues.
We're dealing with healthissues that he wasn't willing to
, he couldn't handle, hecouldn't deal with call it what
you want and then leading up toMarch, where things just got
really bad and in April he wasin a hospital.

(26:57):
And again, I'm sharing this.
I don't need sympathy, I justwant people to realize that
whatever those challenges arehas led me to maybe a different
place.
I believe that I have a purposein life and I believe that, to
some degree, my purpose is toinspire people to live life to

(27:21):
the fullest, whatever that means, and we're going to talk more
about what that means and whatthat looks like.
So I do think challenges aresomething that I now embrace.
Look, I'd like life to be alittle easier.
Let me just put that out there.
Ease would not be a bad thing,but the challenges have got me

(27:44):
where I am today.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
So let's go back and again, I know we're bouncing
around, but I think that fear isa lot about what people are
going to think of me.
Would you agree with that?

(28:09):
Can you address that?
We have such a big fear of thisthing we call failure, when in
reality, in my experience,failure is just expedited
learning.
It's just getting feedbackreally quickly, sometimes all at
once, and throw in that itmight be in front of other
people who are going to look atyou and say, oh wow, look at

(28:31):
that.
It can be very uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Do you think so?
Here's what I've come torealize.
First of all, I had a mentormany years ago that said to me
what other people think of youis none of your business, and
that took me a while to reallyprocess and get that that I'm so
worried about what other peoplethink Well, why do I care?
It's none of my business.

(28:54):
Think, well, why do I care?
It's none of my business.
But the other thing I realizedis what I think other people
think of me is usually not thecase.
I think more about what otherpeople think of me than they are
taking the time to think of me.
Did that come out right?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
It did, and it's a huge lesson that I've learned in
my own life and I always remindpeople people are not thinking
about you.
We are all so focused on tryingto keep the ship afloat in our
own life that we don't have timeto think about other people and
, like you said, if we do thinkabout other people, it is
absolutely not what we thinkthey are thinking about us, like

(29:32):
that was one of the things whenI talk about back in 2020, when
I was wearing a mask, trying tobe this person that I thought
other people wanted me to be.
People are so much happier nowthat I'm just authentic, gregory
.
I'm no longer trying to be asocial chameleon and act the
part I thought I needed to bethis way to have friends, to get
love, and all of that was justnonsense that I had created in

(29:53):
my own head.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
That's great.
We're going to continue withthat.
I want to just take a briefbreak because I want to let my
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If people do decide after thisshow, after this episode, that
they want to go try an RV ormaybe upgrade their RV, there's

(30:51):
the solution.
Let's go back and talk aboutregrets and again, we both
highly recommend this book.
I have to say at my age and Ikeep referring to my age, no,
I'm not sharing what it is, it'sjust, like I said, way older
than you.
I look back and, as I saidbefore, I believe the challenges

(31:17):
in my life got me where I am.
So when I was young, money wasalways an issue.
I had decided that I needed togo to college, graduate, have a
career I would retire and thenbe able to have fun, live my
life, whatever that looked like.
So I decided to become ateacher.
Well, as most people may or maynot know, teachers do not make

(31:40):
much money and everything that Ithought was based on money.
So I would be happy when I hadthe better car, the better house
, I was making more money, I wasdoing, you know, being able to
buy things, take people places.
That was what I believedsuccess looked like and that's
what I saw my value as.

(32:01):
And so quickly into being ateacher, I was like the money is
just not working out.
So that whole theory went outthe window and as I was teaching
, I loved working with thestudents that I was working with
.
I worked with a lot of at-riskyouth that I mentored, but I
wasn't fulfilled in any way.

(32:23):
I felt great working with thestudents.
I was, but overall life did notfeel fulfilling and I knew and
this was probably 15-plus yearsago that I wanted more,
something to kind of change.
But where I was going with thisis everything that I think
happened has happened.
The challenges that I facedhave led me where I am, so I

(32:48):
don't know that I would go backand regret, or go back and want
to change anything that'shappened that's led me here.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, what comes up for me as you share that is
that's a good thing.
Where you are today is abyproduct of where you've been
and all the things that havehappened to you.
And the way I like to look atregret is that regret and dreams
are really two sides of thesame coin.
The dream is the positive, thelight side, it's way more shiny
and attractive and it's thething that you're running toward

(33:17):
, whereas regret is the darkside.
It's a lot of times what we'rerunning from, but if we can kind
of flip how we're thinkingabout regret, it can be a very,
very powerful tool.
And so when I sit down withclients or potential clients and
I say, okay, like what are yourdreams?
And they say I don't know, wesay what would you regret not

(33:44):
doing in your life, you can useregret as a compass.
Really, both your fear and yourregret, these things that we're
supposed to not think about andavoid at all costs, are some of
the most powerful wayfindingtools we can have, because your
fear is going to tell you whatyou should go pursue, because
you're scared of it, because itmatters, and regret is going to
tell you the things, theexperiences, the memories that
you want to have in your life,so that when you get to the end
of it and you're living a storyworth telling, you're telling

(34:07):
that story to yourself whenyou're lying on your deathbed.
You have this full picture, thisfull life experience.
You feel like you squeezedeverything out of life, you
didn't put things off, and soregret is so powerful.
And to all your listeners rightnow, just ask yourself what is
one thing that you know youwould regret not doing in your

(34:27):
life?
And if you're not going to takethe first step on that soon,
what are you waiting for?
It's only going to get harderas you wait and you wait and you
wait.
So if you can take one littlebold action on that today, that
would be a huge win.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Okay.
So, as a teacher, I want to gothrough and break that down.
That was just incredible.
So, for my listeners, I wantthem to pull out their computer,
their phone, their paper pencil, whatever they use, and think
about that one thing right now,whatever their age is what is
something that, when you arelaying on your deathbed, you

(35:05):
would think back and say I wishI had done that, I wish I had
explored, I wish I had takenthat trip, I wish I had gotten
on that hot air balloon,whatever that is.
And for them to pick that onething and write it down and just
start with one small step, oneaction, one bold action, and one

(35:28):
bold action leads to anotherright.
I mean, that's how it allstarts.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
The ball starts rolling starts, the ball starts
rolling.
I have had hundreds, if notthousands, of experiences and
I'm so lucky and grateful that Iget to experience these and I
want to share them with as manypeople as I can.
I get to see this happen in somany people's lives, where they
take one small bold action andthen something crazy happens,

(35:52):
Something unexpected in the bestway possible happens.
It literally just happened thismorning.
There's a woman in my communitycalled the Bold Action
Community.
She made a post in our groupfor the first time.
She just joined.
In her introduction post she wastalking about how she's ready
for the next big step in hercareer.
She doesn't know what it'sgoing to look like next, but
she's putting it out there.
She got a call an hour laterfrom a previous employer, the

(36:16):
president of that company,saying we want to bring you back
on as a VP.
So I see this all the time.
Just to share, to go off whatyou said sorry, I'm getting
excited.
It's that one little boldaction that is the catalyst.
It gets things going and itgets things in motion.
And then another thing I'll sayis that when you take that
action, that is success.

(36:37):
The moment you take the action,you have already won.
It actually doesn't matter theoutcome.
If you're asking something boldto someone, it doesn't matter
what they say.
All that matters is you had thecourage to get in the arena and
to take that first step.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
And that's incredible .
Just to play off of that, Ifeel like sometimes and there's
a country western song, I can'tthink of what it's called but I
think sometimes, when we seesomething we want, when we focus
so hard on something, and thenthat something doesn't happen,
that specific thing thing, youknow, when I was dating, you

(37:14):
know, in college, there was aguy that I, you know, wanted to
be with and that was the guy,and that didn't happen.
And I've realized after thefact that that was in my best
interest.
Thank you for not letting thathappen.
I think that not being attachedand it sounds like that's what
you're saying not being attachedto the exact outcome, this is

(37:37):
exactly what it is, exactly whatit's going to look like.
Keep yourself open, keepingyourself open to okay, this is
something I would like.
This is something I would enjoy.
I want to go out and explorethe US.
You don't have to know exactlywhat it's going to look like,
right?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
to know exactly what it's going to look like, right
100%, because we can't controlwhat happens to us in life.
But we can control how bold weare being, and that is the whole
hypothesis of the work I do isthat if you increase the
boldness in our lives, that'sthe piece you can control.
You inadvertently increase whathappens to you in life and all
the good things that comeBecause you're out there, you're
taking chances in the best waypossible.

(38:19):
And one thing that I'll drop inhere that's been coming up a
lot recently I just went to aconference and learned about
this is that for me, bold actionis fun, it's exciting, it's
playful.
The risk involved is somethingthat excites me.
But for a lot of people, whenthey hear risk, when they hear

(38:42):
uncertainty, when they hearabout the unknown, they shut
down a little bit and they'restarting to think about, okay,
safety and basic needs and allthese things.
And I will playfully challengeyou and say that the riskiest
thing you can do is nothing.
If you don't change, if youdon't take that first step, you
lock it in that future where youdon't change.
If you don't take that firststep, you lock in that future
where you don't do the thingsyou said you wanted to do and
you end up with regret.
So taking the action isactually the safest option you

(39:04):
can do.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
That's incredible and , as you're talking, you
described me.
My whole life was what is thisgoing to look like?
What time will we get there?
How long will it take, how muchgas will we need?
How much money will this cost?
All of the details that I havereally learned to let go of.

(39:27):
I'm going to say most of them.
I still have to be remindedsometimes that, hey, we're just
going to let go of this.
That is a practice.
It's practicing that muscle,because living in that place
where I needed to know what'sgoing to happen in every turn,
it doesn't work because, likeyou just said, life does not
work that way.
So when I was hit withsomething good or bad it could

(39:50):
have been something exciting,but it wasn't in the plan.
Then it would throw me.
So even the exciting things nowwould throw me.
So it has taken me time andpractice, and the one thing I
will say is that I've hadcoaches, I've had mentors.
I read a lot.
We talked about the one book, alot of books that I read that

(40:12):
have helped me through thisprocess.
And while we're talking aboutthat, let's just let my
listeners know how they canreach out to you.
I don't want to forget it whilewe continue our conversation
100%.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
I think the best way is to go to my website,
gregoryrussellbenedictcom.
We'll put that in the shownotes.
And then I'm also really activeon LinkedIn, so I do a lot of
writing on LinkedIn.
Shoot me a connection request.
I would love to chat with youthere.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
And we talked about your TEDx talk that I recommend
everybody listening to.
That's on YouTube correct.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
That's on YouTube and I think that's the perfect step
two.
I think step one is what yousaid pull out your computer,
your notebook, whatever, andwrite down that small step you
can take towards something youknow you'd regret not doing.
And once you have that on thepaper and you're feeling a
little scared, a little timid, alittle nervous, go watch the
TED Talk and use that as theactivation energy, the
inspiration to then go do thething.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
And this is one of the things that I was really
looking forward to.
When I think about a podcastepisode, I always want there to
be steps and takeaways thatpeople can walk away with.
I've been to some of these bigevents where and I won't mention
names but the person on stageis this big, energetic person.

(41:28):
You leave all motivated andexcited and you get home and you
think to yourself okay, what doI do now?
You think to yourself okay,what do I do now?
So I wanted to make sure thatpeople had actual steps that
they could start taking as soonas they listened to this podcast
episode, and so you've givensome great steps for write it
down and, if you're inspired,keep writing.

(41:51):
Like I have a bucket list and Iused to think a bucket list was
just something you wrote andmaybe magically, something
happened.
It's not A bucket list is Idon't want to say it's like a
to-do list, because a lot ofpeople that's a heavy concept.
Bucket list is, you know, goout and figure out how you're
going to create one small partof one of those.

(42:13):
And you could speak more onthis, but I know for me I would
get overwhelmed sometimes withfeeling like I had to do so much
.
Let's just reiterate the smallone bold action.
Let's talk more about that.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Absolutely, and I think the tips and the takeaways
are so important.
And to just come back to thatone thing that you want to do
that you've either been puttingoff, it's regret, it's a dream.
Here are just three quick waysto think about it.
So your dream can be somethingthat you've always wanted to do
but you haven't quite yet foundthe courage to do so.
It can be something that youknow you'd regret not doing at
the end of your life, like wealready talked about, that you

(42:52):
know you'd regret not doing atthe end of your life, like we
already talked about.
And then there's this thirdcategory that sometimes help
people.
It's like what's the thing thatyou've been putting off until
someday or one day Again?
That's maybe renting the RV,buying the RV, going out on the
road, making that trip happen.
And if you can just write itdown and start to think about it

(43:13):
, I'll actually share anotherreally useful tip here that has
changed my life completely.
It's a concept called acommitment device.
So once you have a dream or anidea of something you want to do
, but you're human andprocrastination and fear and
self-doubt and all the thingsget in the way you can use this
thing called a commitment device.
And so a commitment device issimply an action you can take in

(43:36):
the present moment to lock in adesired future action.
The simplest commitment deviceout there is say that you keep
talking about this trip I'mthinking of Bali because I'm
looking at your background,patty but say you've always
wanted to go to Bali and youkeep putting it off.
You're like, oh, I can't do itthis year, I'm busy, I don't
have the money.

(43:56):
X, y, z.
A commitment device would be buya non-refundable plane ticket
for six months from now andyou're going.
You're either going or you'regoing to lose the money.
So you, basically you lockyourself in.
It's like a really fun way toget playful and creative, to
lock yourself in to that desireddream or that desired future,

(44:16):
and I'll let you speak to it.
And then I want to share areally personal example of a
commitment device in my life.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Wow, I mean, that's incredible and that's even
sounded a little scary even forme.
I've got to be honest, I havebeen talking since and maybe I
shouldn't say this, but I'vebeen talking since last year.
I want to go to Italy.
It's been on my bucket list foryears, but it's that kind of
thing that was on the bucketlist, you know, maybe someday,

(44:45):
and there's no movement towardit.
So I decided that no, I amgoing to Italy.
I am not thinking about wherethe money's going to come from,
because I want to be able totravel and sightsee and do all
the things I want to do and notworry about the money.
I don't want to go alone.
So you know, it's like who'sgoing to go with me, all of the

(45:14):
details.
My detail oriented brain stillgoes into what, if and how about
this, and when will I go andwhen is the right time and who
will I go with.
All of those things come intomy mind and I just put it out
there and it's like it's goingto happen at the right time in
the right way.
It's going to happen.
So I just kind of put it outthere.
Never thought about buying anumber fundable ticket.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
And that's one example.
So two things I'll say to this.
One is that you're talkingabout it, you're putting the
dream out there, which isbeautiful, because there's going
to be someone who hears thisepisode and is like, yep, I'm
going to Italy with Patty.
That's how this stuff happensand it works out so beautifully.
So that's the first part isyou're talking about the dream,
which is really really important, and you're talking about it in
a safe space that you'vecreated, because sometimes we

(45:58):
don't just want to go aroundsharing our dreams with anyone,
because someone might take alook at it and they might go oh,
you can't do that or that's notfor you.
So that's an important piece.
The second piece is thiscommitment device.
It's doing something and itdoesn't have to be buying the
plane ticket.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
But what would be some small thing that you could
do, patty, to lock yourself intoactually making this happen.
Well, you're putting me on thisspot now.
So for me, when there issomething that I want or need,
or I literally just put it outthere and surrender it, let go
of it.
Because I know, when I get sodetailed and now there's stress

(46:41):
in it and there's like concernand fear, and when I just put it
out there, I know it's coming,I know it's going to happen.
There's no two ways about it,and it's going to happen at the
right time in the right way.
And so that's how I've kind ofover the last few years.

(47:02):
I guess, when I'm trying to orwhen I think about something
that I truly want, you knowwhether it's a career, my career
, my business, this podcast Iwanted a way this is a good
example because I wanted a wayto inspire people to live life
fully, and it was like I wasjust open to what platform, in

(47:23):
what way can I put outinformation that inspires people
?
And so the podcast came alongand, honestly, when it came
along, I was like, oh no, Idon't want to do that.
I didn't want to add one morething to the to-do list and I
just said, ok, if it's meant tobe, it'll be.
And there it was, and here itis.
And it's almost two and a halfyears later and it's growing and

(47:49):
people is.
And it's almost two and a halfyears later and it's growing and
people are listening and I getmessages that they're inspired.
So I just put it out there andjust waited for it to come in
the way that it was meant tocome.
So that's kind of how I've donethings.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
And I love that answer because a commitment
device is really useful forsomeone who knows they want to
take action on something, butthey keep putting it off or they
keep letting.
And I love that answer becausea commitment device is really
useful for someone who knowsthey want to take action on
something, but they keep puttingit off or they keep letting
other things get in the way.
There's this concept calledresistance, which resistance
shows up as fear, self-doubt,procrastination.
It shows up as telling you thatright now is the perfect time
to go clean out your entiregarage instead of getting

(48:24):
started on the passion projectthat you said you'd get started
on.
So a very helpful tool in somecases if you really want to get
something done and like lock itin.
But I'm also hearing you saythat your worldview right now
and how you've been living yourlife is it will happen when it's
supposed to happen and lettingit flow a little bit.
So that's also the right answer.

(48:44):
Again, there's no.
You have to do this one thingwhen it comes to going after
your dreams and living life tothe fullest.
So I love that and I justreally appreciate you sharing
that.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
And I think what this leads to is letting people know
there are different ways.
There's not one perfect.
So if people want to reach outto you and work with you or read
a book or whatever it is thatthey do, I know for me, coaching
, mentoring courses have beensuch a big part of helping me

(49:16):
get past my year without havingthe tools that I have, and I'm
still learning and growing.
So I think the message that Iwant to make sure people are
hearing is there's not oneperfect way.
We're giving suggestions andtools, but bottom line is you

(49:41):
got to take that bold step.
Nothing's going to happen ifyou just sit on the couch Like I
don't just sit on the couch andsay, oh okay, I'm going to go
to Italy.
No, it doesn't happen.
That way.
I am looking for and being ledto what's my next step?
What's going to lead me there?
So I think that you know havingideas and suggestions that

(50:02):
people look at and try.
Maybe you try one thing and youdecide you want to try
something else.
The idea is to keep going.
The idea is to not give up, andanybody who tells you or laughs
at you or says you're crazy orthat's never going to happen.
They're probably people youdon't want to share that bucket

(50:23):
list, your dream life with.
You need to find other peoplethat support you, and I found
that to be very important.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Absolutely, and you reminded me of something I
wanted to bring up, which is,I'm sure that no amount of
planning, forecasting,predicting five years ago for
you would have ever shown youthis life that you would be
leading this podcast, hostingthis podcast, doing all these
things.
And that's something that Ialways remind myself of, too,

(50:51):
because I used to be a majorplanner.
I mean, I worked in finance, Iwas incredibly risk averse, and
sometimes you do have to justsurrender and let go and trust
and know that everything isgoing to work out in way better
ways than you could havepossibly imagined.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Absolutely and to your point, in the last five
years if I just took my lastfive years none of that was on
the planning.
None of that.
You know what happened with myhusband going RVing, how that
all worked out.
None of that would havehappened.
And by being able to let go andsurrender, I was able to come

(51:28):
back to Pennsylvania with a Jeep, with a trailer small trailer
that had everything I owned init and allow for the help that I
received, the support that Ireceived, the people.
Because you know, here I am now, I could have felt judged, I
could have felt like, okay, thisis done, how do I start over

(51:50):
from scratch?
There's just so much that bybeing able to surrender Great
book about surrender by Hawkins.
It's called Letting Go byHawkins.
It's a power surrender becausesometimes in some situations,
you have to throw your hands upin the air and say, okay, what's

(52:12):
next?
I'm willing to believe in whatelse is possible is what I often
say.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
And you said one other thing that we really need
to talk about, because it's soimportant, is that you don't
have to get it right the firsttime.
I think life is just one bigexperiment and you try something
.
Maybe it works, probablydoesn't, and then you iterate,
you make a slight tweak, you trysomething else, and you're
constantly just iterating andimproving.
And that is how you go fromwhere you are today to where you

(52:44):
want to get, to this big dreamlife.
It's absolutely not a clearstaircase up into the right.
It's more like a roller coasterwith loop-de-loops and there's
holes in the track where youfall back and you go back a few
steps.
And there's this quote I can'tremember who it's by, but it's
you accrue incremental wisdom asyou implement your flawed plan.
And I love that quote becauseone it says oh, my goodness,

(53:08):
you're going to accrueincremental wisdom along the way
.
You're going to learn more,you're going to get better,
you're going to discover thesenew things.
But the most important partabout that whole quote is your
flawed plan, and it speaks tothe fact that your plan's going
to suck in the beginning.
It's going to be flawed.
You're going to think you haveall the answers and you're going
to try it.
And then you're going torealize as you get into it that,
wow, there's so much more tothis world I'm stepping into

(53:31):
than I realized.
And it's okay to have a flawedplan, and you'll slowly accrue
the wisdom you need along theway.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
And that is so incredibly important because I
don't think you learn like okay.
So there are people that say,okay, I've learned from other
people's mistakes.
Yes, you can learn some thingsfrom other people's mistakes.
I used to tell my one kid thathad to learn everything the hard
way, he needed to touch thefire to know it was hot.

(53:59):
He didn't just believe me, but,that said, I do believe you
have to fall flat on your face.
Pick yourself up to get to yournext step.
You've got to screw it up.
It's going to be messy at times.
It's a little younger than you.
Most of my kids are older thanyou and she was beating herself

(54:24):
up and she said you know, it's amonth.
I should have known, I shouldhave seen this, all of this
stuff.
And I said, first of all, youdid it in a month's time,
instead of getting married,having kids and then learning.

(54:46):
And I said, as long as you pickyourself up and look at it and
learn and she's already so muchwiser than I ever was at her age
, or even older than her, itjust you.
She would not learn how to bein a relationship without going
through that.
It's painful, it stinks.

(55:07):
I'm taking her tomorrow.
We're going to go have a hotbudge Sunday and take a ride and
let her cry.
These things that happen areupsetting and they hurt, but it
is all about pick yourself up.
What did you learn from it?
Because I've got to look backon my life of so many ups and

(55:30):
downs I've been married beforeand divorced and feel like I
screwed up and taking everythingthat I learned, I you know,
having a.
I had a master's degree plus 45credits, so I was a step away
from my doctorate degree inteaching Tons of money, spent
tons of years like what eightyears of training, whatever it

(55:54):
was.
To wake up after 20 years andsay, yeah, I don't want to do
this anymore.
I mean, for most people theysee that as, wow, you really
screwed that up.
That's a failure.
Why didn't you wait another 10years to full retirement and all
of these things?
No, that wasn't the life that atthe end of the day, I would

(56:14):
have been happy, laying on mydeathbed saying, oh, I'm glad I
did that for an extra 10 years.
It wasn't the life I was meantto live and I'm just incredibly
grateful for people like youthat share your wisdom, because
it needs to be out there.

(56:35):
People need to know that thefear is going to be there, that
they have to step into it, that,by taking a bold action, leads
to the next step, and the nextstep, and the next step.
And sometimes it's like yousaid it is totally like a roller
coaster with the loop-de-loopsin it, and when you go through
the loop-de-loops you just haveto look at it and what did you

(56:58):
learn from it?
That's the big thing.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
You just got to hang on for dear life sometimes.
And I think, one of the lastthings.
I'll say two things.
I can't stop saying thingsbecause this is so great.
One is like, of course, this iswhy.
This is why every time we talk,we get along so well because
you deciding not to just mail itin and wait the 10 years
because then you'd haveretirement and all these things
like that is exactly it.

(57:22):
We can't afford to waste 10years, let alone one year of our
life, not living it true toourselves, because we will
regret that.
And then the second piece we'retalking about life being messy.
Life is super messy and one ofthe biggest lessons I'm learning
that all of your listeners canimplement today is take messy,
imperfect action.
If, again going back to thefear, if you try and wait until

(57:43):
you're not scared anymore, ifyou try and wait until you're
not going to be messy, until youhave it all figured out to take
action, you'll never getstarted.
And through you taking messyaction, you actually give
everyone else in your life who'swatching permission to go after
their dream or to launch theirproject and not do it perfect.
Because one of the most I feellike we've said this already and

(58:05):
we're circling back to it, likeone of the things that keep us
stuck the most is saying, oh,that person is ready.
They took action because theywere ready.
No, they just took actionbecause they were willing to
dance with the fear.
So, do it messy, do it afraid,do it scared.
I mentioned these, all thesethings all the time, and it's so
powerful.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
And I love that.
That is a great place to endthis part of the conversation
that says so much.
And again, I'm going toencourage my listeners.
They can reach out to you.
I will put all of yourinformation in the show notes.
Everybody should go listen tothe TED Talk after they've
written one thing down that theywant to do that they do not

(58:48):
Imagine yourself like, reallyclose your eyes, think about
being on your deathbed,whoever's around you and
thinking, wow, I lived the lifethat I truly wanted to live.
I have no regrets and I'm happythat I lived the life that I
wanted to live.
That's the idea, justincredible.

(59:09):
I had some questions on my listthat I wanted to cover.
We didn't get to, but I thinkwe covered so much and this
might just lead us to a part two, because there's just so much
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Again, I'm not done.
I want to ask you a question.
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There is a link in the shownotes for it.
So now this is kind of aninteresting question for you
because, just given what we'vebeen talking about, even though
you've done so much, you stillhave a huge bucket list, I would
imagine right is drive a racecar.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
That's something I've always wanted to do.
I feel like I know deep downthat the moment I get in a race
car and I'm going really fast ona track, something within me is
going to come alive.
So that one's kind of my funnyone, a more serious one that is
happening later this year, ifeverything goes well, is host my
first retreat.
I've met a couple kindredspirits, literally from across
the world and throughserendipity that we all have
this shared vision for a retreatof reconnecting with nature,

(01:01:32):
reconnecting with yourself andreconnecting with other humans
in real life.
So we're going to be hostingthat later this year.
And then the last one and Iknow you didn't tell me I could
get three, but I like to talk.
So the third one is start afamily.
Get married, start a familythat's for sure on my bucket
list, hopefully to my girlfriend, who I talk about in the TEDx,

(01:01:53):
and I know that's going to besuch a big part of my life and
what makes life meaningful forme.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
That's amazing and I think that it also goes to what
people think I'm putting ontheir bucket list.
Sometimes they think of thesewild out there things.
But I have to share something,honestly, that I don't know,
that anybody knows.
I have always wanted to drive arace car.
I know, let's go, let's do it.

(01:02:20):
Nobody knows that about me.
My first husband, he had a racecar that he drove and I was
like, yes, I want to get in anddo that.
So there it is, it's out therenow to the world, so that I
hadn't put it on my bucket listbecause it was one of those
things that I just kind of keptquiet.

(01:02:41):
But there it is, it's now outto all of my listeners and I
really, really want to encouragemy listeners.
Reach out to you on socialmedia, reach out to me.
I'm just emphasizing thisbecause I want to hear what my
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You have given so muchincredible information.
I had some questions writtendown that went out the window

(01:05:11):
because, as we always do whenwe're talking, it just flows.
I really want my listenersreach out.
Let us know if there's more youwant to hear on this topic,
because I am looking to you knowjust put out there what the
listeners want to hear.
So let us know, reach out toyou.

(01:05:32):
At where do we go?

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Probably Gregory Russell Benedict on LinkedIn
would be best, or GregoryRussell Benedict on Instagram.
And again, we'll put my websiteand the TEDx in the show notes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Absolutely.
We will do all of that.
Thank you again.
So much, Gregory.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Thank you so much for having me, Patty.
It was so much fun talking withyou and I can't wait until we
get to drive a race car together.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
There you go.
Now I'm really going to bepushed to do that.
Okay, I got to make sure myinsurance is up and I want to
thank you, my listeners, andremind you life's a journey.
Live each day to the fullest,without regrets.
I'm Patty Hunt and you've beenlistening to the RV Life Podcast

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Thank you.