December 16, 2025 • 45 mins
Episode 10: Inside the NFL: Power, Taboo, and a Story That Still Haunts Me
In this episode, I tell a story I never thought I’d share — one that unfolded deep inside an NFL training camp, where dominance, secrecy, and sexuality collided in ways few could imagine.
What began as a private training camp session with a rookies evolved into something darker and more complex, drawing in veteran players and unearthing a taboo that still echoes through the league.
It’s a raw look at how power, fame, and forbidden desire intersect — and how even the most disciplined environments can hide what no one dares to speak aloud.
Listen as I revisit the moment that changed how I see men, control, and the cost of silence.
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The irony of this podcast is that my clients do call me
daddy. Well, hello, everybody, Welcome
back to Saint to Siren Podcast with the Violatrix.
That's me, Pamela, and I'm excited for today's episode.
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It's going to be a little like the way I speak, almost ADHD.
We're going to cover a lot of different topics, but a few
things as we kick off this episode.
Number 1, I want to acknowledge that we have made it to episode
10. I didn't think we would actually
make it to episode 10. I really thought I would call it
quits after two to three episodes, but I'm excited that
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here we are and you guys have been amazing.
And it's not me, it's us. It's been a journey and I'm
really excited when we get to 12.
That's that's a big number and it's just two episodes away.
So I'm very excited too. Thank you all again for the
comments, the feedback, the suggestions that you write
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underneath my podcast episodes on Spotify.
Without that feedback, again, it's I can't deliver to you what
it is that you're looking for and I can't curate the episode.
So again, your, your feedback isparamount is greatly
appreciated, as is when you rankor rate the podcast and share
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and when you're listening to multiple the multiple episodes
in a day. That's just crazy work and I'm
so appreciative. So a couple of quick things as
well. Last episode I mentioned that
old Pam with my old previous nose pre nose job when I first
started on Night Flirt and my name was Adriana ADRIANNAA.
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Adriana 2NS2A's. At the end, I was able to find
where those pictures are. They were under
flickrflickr.com, which is like a really old photo sharing site.
Again, we're going, we're harkening back to the days of
Myspace. So if you look up Adriana, NNAA
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Adriana with two NS 2A's on Night Flirt, Adriana, Night
Flirt, it's flickr.com. That's where I found those
pictures. I didn't actually find it, but I
had screenshot it in my camera roll and that's where I found
that. So if you're curious to see what
I used to look like when I started out and the aesthetic of
the early 2000s, which I do not recommend you do, but there you
go, you will see my very thin eyebrows and just horrific
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images of me. Let's see, I had a story to tell
you guys. I can't remember if I touched on
this story early in my podcast recording, like even the first 3
episodes. I don't think I told this whole
story. If I did, I apologize, but it's
always worth a second listen. So last week I covered my most
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horrific gross client. I have covered my most shocking
clients, my most gross clients, and now I'm going to do probably
what we can call the most unbelievable client story that
you will think I'm lying. That's what we're going to call
this you will think I'm lying client story.
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So I have one about the Illuminati.
I have one about the NFL. They also have what I deem to be
the most how do I say this? The most inconceivable client
that's ever come to me came to me two weeks ago.
He found me on Night Flirt again.
If you guys don't know, my primary platform is Night
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flirt.com. niteflirt.com. By the way, Night Flirt is now
on Instagram and they are now onTikTok under Night Flirt flirts
flirt or something. You just put in night Flirt and
you'll see it. It's black and white logo.
So they officially have joined the the ranks of social media,
which is shocking because they've had no social media
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presence ever previously. They've had no social media
presence ever previously. This is very exciting, and it's
also super exciting because theyare plastering me all over stuff
and I've been waiting for this for like, what, 1718 years?
OK, so one other thing I wanted to mention is I keep talking
about wanting to add guests to my podcast.
I'm making headway on those guests.
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I have an amazingly beautiful dominatrix in Germany.
There's one in Poland I really want to get on.
They are a little apprehensive because they think their English
isn't good enough. I mean, they speak arguably
better English than I do, but I'm working on that.
But a couple of quick things if you know of somebody who is a
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full service sex worker escort, high end escort I really want
like the high end escorts or youknow a fin Dom, dominatrix, Cam
girl OF girl or anything in between who would make a great
guest. Send her to me, tag her, talk
about her underneath my Spotify comments.
I'll see it immediately or send her to me to my socials and make
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a connection or to my website. I have the new website St. #2
siren.com so that should wrap upall my little notes.
I have a random thought I wantedto add in here.
I have a guy that's been textingme on night flirt.
There's a chat option where whether you're logged in or not,
if you're accepting chats they can chat you.
And I have a guy he likes to talk about circumcision and he's
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constantly asking my opinion on circumcision.
His mom did not circumcise him. If you ladies are listening to
me, any of you in your flirts oryour Cam girls or OF girls and
you have these guys in the chat who are just asking your opinion
whether it's rape, my Dick, let me send you a Dick pic or what
do you think about circumcision?Would you circumcise your son?
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Don't engage them. I had to tell him after three
sentences I was nice, I was cordial.
But then after three sentences, I said to him, if you'd like to
discuss circumcision further, you may call my line.
This conversation is over. To which he came back at me and
said, oh, you won't just chat here about it.
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No, Mr. Circumcision fetishist Kingster, I'm not going to sit
here for $0.99 per volley and get you off when you're trying
to disguise a full session for $0.99 per volley because you're
too cheap to pick up the phone at 399 and call me for a real
session. You're going to disguise it to
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look like a conversation, but you're sitting there with your
Dick in your hand. You're stroking it the whole
time while you ask me endless inane, repetitive circular
questions about my opinion on circumcision.
So this isn't specific to circumcision.
This is specific to the guys that send you the random Dick
pics or the guys. There's often guys that will
send you pictures of their wives.
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They want you to rate their wives.
Don't engage in it. I used to fall for it years ago.
I was like oh if I'll just talk to him he'll buy a session.
No, it doesn't work that way. The more you give for free, the
more you're giving them opportunity and incentive to
never pick up the phone and callyou.
Everything with you stays behinda pay wall and that includes
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your opinions and your time. What is our most valuable asset
in life? It's not money.
It's actually not health. It's time.
These guys and some of them are very good at it.
They are going to try to exploit, steal, and take your
time while they've got their Dick in their hand and basically
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that's tantamount to a free session.
Don't do it, don't fall for it. Unless you are a chatter, then
that's a whole different discussion.
Then I can teach you how to baitthem along stretching out the
session. If you're just a chatter and you
don't want them picking up the phone, then you're just going to
do a series of questions. Everything they ask you, you
quasi answer it and then you turn around and ask them for
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each thing they ask. You ask 5 three to five
questions below whatever they just asked and you get them
talking. Remember at the end of the day,
when people think about you, reflect on you after they've met
you, they don't reflect on what a nice person you are.
They don't reflect on the great conversation, what they reflect
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upon. And this goes for any person you
meet in life, any family member,any person you meet socially,
work, doesn't matter. Dating people remember how you
made them feel and you should remember this is the golden rule
of how you treat people and how you'd like to be treated.
People don't remember the thingsyou said are the things you did.
They remember how you made them feel.
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And if you can get on a human level with these guys and really
take an interest, you know, one of the things that I constantly
say to my clients is well, I understand you're interested in
sissification, cuckolding, forced by tease and denial.
You know it forced intox, whatever it is and I appreciate
that. I need to know a little bit
about you because no to forced by cut golds, tease and denial
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stocking fetish No2 XYZ clients are the same.
So I really need to get some information because this is not
a cookie cutter one-size-fits-all.
This is customized to you and your needs specifically.
How do you think that makes themfeel?
Pretty damn good. Sells the session every time.
That's if they're in chat or when you begin the call.
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On this same note, I also want to add something else.
It is very easy for women who enter the phone sex Cam girl
anything adult industry. It's very easy to get the
mindset that it's a smash and grab and take advantage of these
men, even in fandom. There's a couple of points I'd
like to make to this. First and foremost, I want you
to understand that you have gentlemen calling you who have
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autism, who are lonely, who are widowed, widoward, widowed
widow, whatever. They lost their wife.
You're going to have men. They're very isolated.
They don't go out often. There is a sense of compassion
that you must bring to this job or you won't do very well.
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There's a service that your clients are owed.
And even if you're playing a fendom bitch, there's a time and
a place for everything. And even if your brand is
complete and total dominatrix whip bitch, there still has to
be an ounce, a modicum of humanity.
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OK, these are men. They have feelings, they have
emotions. And unless you're just the smash
and grab type, you're in to justgo through one client after
another, never garnering yourself a clientele list, a
repeat client list. You must take notes and take
your time and take personal carewith each client.
How do I do this? The first thing I do is ask a
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series of questions about how old are you?
What coast are you on? Tell me about what line of work
you're in. I build a mental profile in my
head of who this gentleman is. And that way when he calls me
and I have the notes in my portal.
But I remember, oh, it's Billy Bob from Texas.
He owns, you know, oil wells, and he likes to wear his wife's
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panties. And he's got two daughters in
college. It just helps because these
clients will all run together. So if you don't ask a few
specific markers in the beginning, it's very difficult
to differentiate one client fromanother.
So immediately I'm like location, line of work.
You don't want to scare them offby asking too many questions.
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But it's really easy for me to remember Billy Bob the oil guy,
or Tony the grandfather in New Jersey, or Craig the cuckold to
his wife, the financial planner in San Francisco, or, you know,
on and on on Billy who was sexually assaulted by a
stepfather and likes to replay those memories with me because
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they still unfortunately do something to him.
So it's more of a psychology session.
They don't say what is your name?
I say, what would you like to becalled?
That's a little less intimidating and off putting
than saying what is your name? I say, what do you like to be
called? OK, if they ask you what you
like to be called, have that at the ready and make sure it's
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your screen name or a title and never your real name.
But I had a gentleman call me yesterday.
He's called me many times and weactually did a Cam session for
the first time. His name is Peter, and Peter
lives in the California coastal area.
You. Peter was older and I said to
him yesterday, last night, I said, Peter, you're 65.
I said hello to you and he's at 68.
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And that's when I realized Peterfrom the coast of California who
likes to stick things inside hispee pee, which is called
sounding, which I made him stop,by the way, after he began
bleeding. Yes, that's a true story.
As a matter of fact, I'm going to post a clip of Peter on my
socials because I recorded some of the session last night.
But this is really anecdotal story for you to take home right
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now. What I'm about to tell you, I've
spoken to Peter many times. I'm usually a total bitch to him
because he seems old and kind ofweirdo and he stutters and
repeats himself a lot. I just thought he was scattered.
Well we did a Cam call and we did it through first it was
through night flirt and Discord but it was malfunctioning.
So then we moved. He sent me money through Night
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Flirt and we moved our camera toInstagram when I saw Peter in
person. Peter was a little old Jewish
man. He's 68 now.
It's been three years since he'sbeen my client.
He was so dear. He was so lovely.
He's lonely and Peter is lookingfor companionship.
I told him. He said he's going to the
synagogue. I said, you know, join some
groups, let people know in the synagogue you're looking for a
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woman, you're looking for a wife, a companionship, you know.
And anyway, the long story of itwas after we did a session and
he was able, I was able to bringhim to orgasm, which was not
that difficult. There was still like 40 minutes
in the session. I didn't hang up on him.
Normally. I would if he was a younger guy
or whatever the situation. Normally I'm always the first to
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disconnect the call. I did not do that.
Somehow we got on the topic of the Civil War.
We talked about the fact that I'm from Pennsylvania, and I
said that I was considering dragging my kids to Gettysburg
when we get back to Pennsylvaniafor Christmas, taking my kids
for a side tour to the Gettysburg battlefield before we
head on to Manhattan. And we began talking about, have
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you ever seen the footage of theConfederacy?
There's some really old footage of a reenactment of a few old
Confederate soldiers from the actual Battle of Gettysburg.
And I said, Peter, I said we lost more men in the American
Civil War than any war, correct.He said we lost more men in the
American Civil War than all warscombined.
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And he was so thrilled that Peter was very autistic.
He's a programmer. The minute you hear computer
programmer analyst type of thing, you know that you're
dealing with a gentleman who's probably on spectrum.
I have a daughter on spectrum. I have a husband on spectrum.
I am the spectrum whisperer. So I switched out of Dom mode,
which I had been in, and we began talking about everything
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from the Hessian rebel fighters to the Battle of Gettysburg to
the Mason Dixon line, Underground Railroad, the
Louisiana Purchase, Lewis and Clark, the Louisiana Purchase,
Merriweather Post, how we ended up getting the money to buy
Louisiana from Napoleon, like the whole story.
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And I. And then we got into like this
whole thing about Thomas Jefferson, who is my favorite
president. And Thomas Jefferson's
plantation is called Monticello.We talked about how he's an
extremely controversial Thomas Jefferson is a completely
controversial president. But we deep dove it.
He said he's been there. He's seen Sally Hemings, you
know, lodging. And, you know, I don't know how
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much you know about Thomas Jefferson.
My point is we spent 20 minutes of the call, 15 minutes getting
him off, and the last 40 minuteswe spent talking about history,
architecture, my family. My mother is Italian from
Florence, my father's Italian from Sicily.
I said that my mother's a Spinelli and the Spinellis were
bankers and he said they were part of the Medici's.
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I said actually the Medici's, the Medici family were rivals to
the Spinelli's. And Peter said to me, I've been
to fit ends. Have you been at the, you know,
And we talked, I said, no, it's a dream of mine.
I'd love to go. And we talked about the fact
that my great ancestor Jacquemo Spinelli is in the Medici
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series. I think it was on HBO in the
Priori scene in the courtroom opposite Cosimo Medici.
Anyway, it was really fascinating.
And Peter says to me, do you know that the Medicis, the
Medicis, they invented capitalism?
And I said, no, I said, how so? I know that the Renaissance, the
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seat of the Renaissance is Florence, Italy.
And they invented pretty much everything we know about art and
culture that was Ground Zero. And he said the Medici is what
they would do is they would get a bunch of investors together.
They would invest in a ship and it would go sail to exotic
destinations and come back with rugs and furs and jewelry and
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minerals and oils. And then they would split up the
the goods and the proceeds. And he said that was the birth
of capitalism. I had no idea.
My long and drawn out point hereis you never know who you're
going to meet. You never know whose life you're
going to touch. I got more out of that
conversation with Peter that last 40 minutes then I've gotten
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out of a conversation with any single human being in my life in
probably the last six months. When we got off the phone, Peter
sent me a tip and told me that Iam beautiful and brilliant were
his exact words. So I want you to understand
always, always bring a a part ofyourself and a piece of humanity
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to this and you will be surprised how it will hook in
the regular clients. It will make you real.
It will make the relationship real.
And this is what we do. We are in relationship based
business. We are relationship based
selling. What makes Peter pick up the
phone and call me versus anotherflirt?
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Because Peter knows that when hecalls me, he's not just going to
get off. There's going to have some
pretty enjoyable conversation and back and forth banter about
topics no one else is discussingIn the meantime.
So I hope you understand the take away here.
Treat this not just as a business, but as a personal
investment in yourself and theseclients and it will pay in
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dividends. Let's get to my stories.
The Illuminati. I don't want to start with the
Illuminati story because I frankly don't like this
Illuminati story. The gentleman that used to call
me was creepy and it's it. That's this story has stayed
with me for years. It's also a little dicey as far
as what I'm going to say. I don't want to turn off any
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listeners. So let's begin with the NFL
story. And the NFL story is not just
shocking and salacious. And anybody who's an American,
let alone football fan, NFL fan,you're probably going to have to
grab your chest and fall over and maybe need CPR after you
hear what I'm about to say. This NFL story is not just
shocking, salacious and entertainment, but there's an
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important piece of this. When you look at this story,
when you listen to my story through the vantage point of the
gentleman who was calling me, you're going to see this from a
submissive, a client's vantage point, his viewpoint.
And that's going to turn everything you know about what I
teach and what I do about Finn Dom is going to turn it on its
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head. I'm going to begin my NFL story
with explaining to you how this first began.
The guy's name is very recognizable, so and it was
really funny and very Italian. So we're going to we're going to
change his name to Luigi becausehis name is equally as Italian,
funny and I'm Italian, so I can say that Luigi called me up.
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On Night Flirt, this is probablynow going back 567 years ago,
Luigi calls me and he begins to tell me that he was with a bunch
of NFL players the previous night.
I thought he was full of shit and I thought it was a fantasy,
a role play, so I ran with it. You could tell he was out of
breath and he was excited. He was exhilarated.
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Beyond exhilarated. Like he was so excited and I was
like, OK, this is a fun call. He was a really sweet guy.
Now Luigi, from what I understood, picture like a Danny
DeVito type, except taller, muchtaller, big beefy Italian man
Luigi, hairy chest, big arms. I think he's overweight.
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So just picture like a younger, taller Danny DeVito type.
OK, he was all of the sudden just switched into this super
effeminate role and basically Luigi was a big burly guy that
is irresponsible for the new players, the new recruits in the
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NFL on a particular major NFL team.
Not going to mention what part of the country because all of
this would be easily tracked andI don't want him outed.
So he's in charge of the new recruits who show up, I guess,
for training camp at the end of the summer.
Now, bear in mind, I've been a cheerleader my whole life.
I'm born and raised around football.
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My whole family, my husband, everybody loves football.
But I know nothing about football except for the
cheerleading end of it, I guess.The new recruits, which are
usually young black guys, the new NFL recruits, they come and
they show up for the summer campand they show up before the
seasoned players. And then they get indoctrinated
into where to go, what to do, where the training camp is and
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everything in between, learning the ropes before the NFL season
begins in the fall. So Luigi is responsible for
overseeing these boys. Now, obviously Luigi had a
college background football play.
He was a college football player.
OK. You don't get into this trainer,
you know, leader position unlessyou have a background in
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football. So he's a big, burly type
football player. So he calls me and he's like, I
was with all these NFL rookies, recruits last night, and they
were doing this to me and they were doing that to me.
And then he got off and he hung up, and then he called back
again. And you'll get clients like
this. They get so excited, they come,
but then they want to call you back.
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So over the course of that day, he called me about four times.
Each descending call, he's telling me more and more
details. And I began to realize this
isn't a fantasy. This is really who he is and
this is what he does. This really happened.
So now I'm switching gears in myhead.
I'm taking it from role play to now I have to know everything.
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So I start asking him and I'm like, wait, this really
happened? He said yes, the players showed
up. It's the beginning of training
season. He said they come in, I'm in
charge of showing them their lockers, showing them where
everything works. And every year I invite them to
my house, which is I guess on the campus of wherever the
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wherever the property is that the part I don't know, but it's
within that NFL campus. And Luigi has a house and a
really nice one, and he brings them over for a cocktail
evening, kind of like a meet andgreet to get to know each other.
Well, this is where it takes a weird turn.
The older players tell the rookies that what they have to
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do is go to Luigi's house when they get there and do sort of a
meet and greet and get familiar with him.
And he has like a cocktail nightAnd they watch football, they
watch sport, they watch whatever, whatever the heck is
on at that time of the year. And they kind of get to know
each other as the conversations rolled out.
Here is the story of what I understood happened.
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And I know it's what happened because he then became a regular
client. And then I got the full details.
These young men would show up and he would show them their
lockers. He would show them where
everything is. And then I like within the first
couple of nights that they're intown, they would come over to
his house. Luigi, because the older players
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on the team had all been throughthis kind of indoctrination,
this kind of, I don't want to call it a hazing because these
young players, these rookies areabsolutely in charge of what
they're doing. They would come over and he
would make them cocktails. They would sit on the couch.
They start to get to know each other.
At some point in the evening, these rookies unzip their pants.
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They're all sitting on the couchand there could be anywhere from
5:00 to 11:50. Guys, they're sitting there.
They pull out, They pull their pants down.
They pull out their cocks. Luigi disappears and goes and
changes into pink panties. Now he's got a pink pedicure,
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He's got a manicure, and I can'tremember what else he puts on.
Maybe there was like a bow in his hair or something.
I can't remember. You guys, are you picturing
this? This is like Danny DeVito if he
was in college. Coach, football player, big
burly guy with a hairy chest anda hairy ass.
He's in a pink thong, a pink pedicure, and now he's on all
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fours and he's going straight down the line servicing each one
of these rookies. And when I say servicing, he is
pulling their cocks out, he is sucking their Dicks, He's
stroking them. They're telling him things like
white boy, suck my Dick, white boy, suck this big.
I can't. I don't know what I can say
here, but he would they would tell him suck this big.
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You know what, Iger Dick, come on, white boy.
And then, you know, like he would be completely forced them
sisified. He's a he is a forced them
sisified submissive. You're not even a cuckold.
He's just he is a Sissy. So he would kind of crawl around
and then at some point there's usually one guy that takes the
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lead, gets up and starts fuckingLuigi in his mouth.
And then another one will come around him and mount him and
start fucking his ass. And then the next thing you
know, they are just like, what do you call that?
Spit roasting or double teaming DP, whatever.
They're fucking Luigi every way to Sunday.
Who's coming on him? Who's jerking off on his back,
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who's turned themselves around on the couch and expose their
ass and he's just going down theline licking their asses.
Now, please bear in mind this iswhat I'm being told and I'm not
being told this once or twice. I was told this systematically
over a series of years. So again, he's protected enough
because I've changed enough of the details that I don't think
anybody will figure out who he is.
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But those of you who are on the NFL team who visited Luigi's
house, you know who you are. And yes, I know.
So it would turn out that the the seasoned players on the team
would tell the boys the rookies go to the house and they'd
really didn't know what to expect.
And this was kind of like almostlike a fraternity.
This was their hazing, their initiation.
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And Luigi would work in conjunction with the older
players to get these guys over there.
And it just became a thing. And then all season, they would
go to Luigi's house, he would make them cocktails, he'd come
out sometimes in a maid uniform,even with his pedicure and his
pink panties. And he would serve them drinks.
And they would fuck his mouth, fuck his holes, fuck him all
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night long. This is a true story.
And then many of them really gotinto it.
Some of them would go visit him alone.
Some of them brought their girlfriends.
Which brings me to the next part.
I found it so difficult to believe that the girlfriends
were taking part in this. And I was like, what?
OK, first of all, what do the girlfriends look like?
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Because you and I both know, because we're women mostly that
you're listening to this. I'm like, what's the girlfriends
look like? And he was like, cuz I'm
thinking he if he's lying and he's a man, he's not going to.
He's like, oh, they're thin. They're they're, they're thin,
they're tall. They look like models.
They're usually blonde. Sometimes you have a couple of
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brunettes or Latinas, but they are built, they are thin or they
are curvy. They have expensive purses.
So now I'm like, OK, like he wasgiving me some detail.
So I'm like, what did they do while they're watching their
fiance, husband, boyfriend mountyou spit roast, you double team.
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He's like, well, sometimes they just, I make them more drinks,
they drink cocktail. I imagine that there was other
substance being thrown around. He's like, and sometimes the
girls start playing with themselves.
And this was at a time where because it was like 5 to 7 years
ago, I back then, I really had like a hard judgement thing
about straight men in relationships that like I was
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like, what girl would ever watchtheir man be with another man,
whether they're giving or receiving?
And what I know now all these years later is that, as I said
in the last episode, the last podcast episode, it's a new
landscape. I mean, it's men, especially
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alpha men. At the end of the day, if he's
truly alpha, he doesn't care whoowns the whole that's good about
to get him off that his conch isabout to go into.
They only care about getting offand the shock value of doing it
to another man, let alone this big burly white man, let alone
be able to being able to add in the race card, the race play.
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Come on, white boy. Open your mouth, boy.
Boy, they spank him, they cum onhim, they make him a mess, they
throw him around. I mean, they really abuse the
hell out of him and he loves it.You have to understand this is
his kink. He wants this.
The excitement in this man's voice when he calls me.
And he's also very high pitched and sometime he'll go into a
much higher pitched voice and Ohmy God, when he comes, it sounds
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like, I don't want to say, but it sounds like Minnie Mouse
having an orgasm. Like his voice is so high
pitched. But the girlfriends get into it.
Sometimes the guys sneak over with the girlfriends and
sometimes they sneak over without them.
Like I said, sometimes the rookies go back by themselves
and then once the rest of the team joins, they show up.
And now you've got the rookies and the Ogs, all tag teaming,
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all tag teaming Luigi. So that is the story.
And he actually was able to giveme enough names that I went and
watched football that week and Isaw who he was talking about and
he was pretty accurate in his descriptions.
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And anyway, that is the story. Now why would Luigi call me?
Well, because the submissive isn't allowed to enjoy himself.
He's there to serve. So Luigi wasn't getting any
enjoyment, although he was enjoying being abused.
His enjoyment comes like, you know, like a serial killer who
takes like locks of hair and panties and jewelry and like
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works himself up after the murder by going through his
mementos, his token from the murder.
It's the same with these guys. They will call me to relive the
fantasy A it's the shock value that they tell me Oh my God, Can
you believe this? No, they love hearing me being
shocked. But moreover, they want to
relive it over and over again because they weren't allowed to
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have an orgasm during the tag team dogpile of NFL players and
and rookies. So now they call me to relive
it. So it extends because it's not a
fantasy and it was reality. It extends their enjoyment.
It extends the reality of what happened because now days later,
they're calling me, they're stroking themselves, they're
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getting off by telling me the story and reliving the details
in real time over the phone withme.
So it keeps that fantasy alive. But again, they're also not to
show any enjoyment. Like if he had tried to have an
orgasm in front of them, they probably would have beaten the
hell out of him. And I do believe there was a lot
of physical abuse going on. But again, remember this is
consensual. Luigi wanted to be sissified,
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fucked, sucked, beaten, gaping, like you name it.
He wanted full CNC. If you guys don't know what CNC
is, it's consensual, non consensual.
So it's a grape situation that'sbeen consented to prior.
So, and I remember him getting pretty graphic and I of course,
me because I'm such a I'm such asucker for tea and gossip.
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I'm like, what I look like, Do you unzip their pants or do they
unzip it? He's like, sometimes they unzip
it. Sometimes I'll do it for them.
I'm like, who starts 1st? And he's like this one?
And I'm like, did they all do islike sometimes the other ones
will whip their Dicks out, whip their cocks out.
They sometimes the others just sit there and wait.
Some some just like to watch. Some don't let me touch them.
Some just stroke themselves. Some just come home and slap me
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in the face with their cock or cum in my face.
Some are just interested in anally raping me.
I swear to you this like I have no reason to lie.
Why would I lie about this? And how could I possibly conjure
this story up in my head? So Luigi, if you are listening,
hopefully I haven't heard from you in a few years.
I miss you. I love the stories.
I hope you're not upset with me for sharing this.
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And please come back to me because I would do anything to
hear the updated stories of whatis happening in your life.
So I hope you guys really enjoyed this one, but I know
that you'll never view the NFL the same again.
And it's it's not dissimilar to college fraternities in in the
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United States. The things that go on.
My brother went to Penn State main campus and he rushed Delta
Upsilon fraternity on at Penn State Maine his freshman year.
My father let him move into the the fraternity house and paid
dues just was like my dad was paying room and board in the
dorms. He's like, fuck it, just the the
king of Hershey, Glenn Capeta can have anything he wants.
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And he moved straight into the fraternity house and dad paid
the dues. But the things that they made my
brother do, which at the time I was in middle school, so I only
know a few of them, but all of these things are not that
shocking because it's a group, it's a crew, it's athletics,
it's college type situation. It's a group of strong men
initiating others. So it's not really that shocking
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because if you ever deep dive, especially, there's porn out
there for like fraternity initiation porn or sorority
initiation. And back in the old days, we
didn't have, you know, cameras, camera phones and video and, you
know, access to those things. But if you ever look up the porn
that's like fraternity, sororityrush initiation, you'll see far
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worse than what I'm talking about.
So it's not that unbelievable. It was to me seven years ago
because you think of an NFL player, you think of him dating
a supermodel, marrying, you know, some famous singer.
But at the end of the day, the take home from this is a hole is
a hole if he's alpha and in the hierarchy of alpha, big daddy
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alpha bull, especially BBC, who's more alpha in the United
States, let alone potentially the world than an NFL player.
Maybe like the Maori rugby players, NFL, they sit to the
right hand of God as far as alpha Ness.
So anyway, that's that. Stories like this are the reason
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that I brought the podcast to these platforms.
These are not stories that I cantell on regular social media.
These are not stories that anybody would believe unless you
followed me and you understand the breadth of experience, the
years of experience that I have doing what I do.
And I've been discreet. I'm the consummate professional,
so I am trusted. These men, especially high level
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men, trust me with these stories.
Maybe not now they don't. But I'm bringing this
information mostly for awarenessI think.
I'm on this app called FieldfeldF EE, LD and I'm all over the
world. I just keep changing my
location. I'm talking to men submissive
and dominant all over the world and I am learning so much and I
now believe in 2025, almost 26, I now believe more than ever
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that men, especially powerful men will derive pleasure in any
way they see fit. And it doesn't matter if it's a
man, if it's if it's a trans girl, it doesn't matter the
whole. I now also know that trans girls
are not just a fancy like a fly by night fancy for some of these
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men and off the cuff a whim kinkor fetish.
I now know that there are absolutely straight men that
want to be fucking a trans girl from behind while reaching
around and jerking the trans girl.
That is a big kink or fetish forwhat we would consider
mainstream straight men. And I think the awareness of
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what I'm bringing, the exposure of what I'm bringing to the
table is incredibly important. And I think women need to know
and understand. Not your man.
Yes, your man too. As I look through my notes, I've
hit on everything I wanted to discuss today, including
encouraging you to recommend guests, and I mean really good
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guests, women that can trump my knowledge, that can better me.
I need women that have more experience, different experience
than me to make it a an educational opportunity for you
to make it a fun episode for you, a fun episodes for you to
listen to. But I want to learn something.
If I'm learning something, you're definitely going to be
learning something and I can always break it down in the
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correct way. So if you have someone write it
underneath the Spotify comments or Instagram or YouTube or
whatever, preferably Instagram or underneath my Spotify.
And if any of you are in the in the adult sex industry, a sex
worker, which is really what we are.
I may be PSO phone sex operator but I am a sex worker.
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Not full service, cyber or virtual.
But that doesn't make me any less of a sex worker.
I used to. I used to get so mad my older
daughter used to call me a sex worker and I was like I'm not a
sex worker. And now I realize, well I guess
I am a sex worker. So now I'm just embracing it.
Remember with me it's like pushing a rock up a hill.
Many of these terms and things. And also remember I didn't come
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out from the shadows until a fewyears ago.
My father died exactly 2 Christmases ago and if I had
ever come out with any of this prior to his death, he would
have flown from Hershey to Vegas.
My father's never picked up a gun in his life, but I guarantee
he would have gotten a gun, learned how to shoot it, and
shot me point blank between the eyes.
With pleasure if my very old school Donato Clemente Capeta
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Italian father knew that this iswhat I was doing.
But he can thank himself becauseif you've listened to episodes
1-2 and three, you know that thereason why I got into phone sex
is because he fucking ruined me because I was trying to have a
baby out of wedlock and he thought that was bringing shame
on our family name. Which is hilarious because my
family is not a family. It's the biggest crime syndicate
I've ever seen. I I'm deep diving my family on
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ancestry right now as a side hobby.
I don't know if any of you know I'm obsessed with DNA and haplo
groups and there's a whole lot of secrets in my family that I'm
trying to uncover and and I'm uncovering them bit by bit.
It's just the unfortunate part is it's taking me forever
because everybody's dead. But I'm bringing shame on the
family by being a successful director of admissions for a
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college and I owned 3 rental properties and I was just ready
to have a baby because I couldn't find a man I liked and
my parents marriage sucked so badly.
I didn't want to fall into that trap.
Silly me thinking he was going to support me.
He almost killed me, but he instead of killing me and
getting me to abort my baby or kicking me in the stomach with
the Italian loafer in which he tried to again, you have to go
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back and listen to episodes 1-2 and three.
I was bankrupted and on the balls of my ass with a newborn
baby. And how did I climb back up from
the depths of hell? Well, by doing this, by becoming
a phone sex operator first, it scores online chat Hostess.
In the early Wild West days of webcamming, Scores strip club in
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New York City was opening up their virtual division.
This is during Myspace. Facebook was just being invented
at that time and that's how it all happened.
So my point is, this is all new to me.
I've only been able to come out in the last two years because my
father is deceased and I don't have to sleep with one eye open
thinking he's going to come hereand shoot, hang, or run me over.
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Sorry, Dad, if you're listening from heaven or wherever you may
be, but you did this to me, so Ihave no guilt.
But most importantly, I need youladies to understand that we
women, especially those of us raised in conservative homes,
really do not understand. Our mothers didn't understand,
and our grandmothers certainly didn't understand.
I don't think that we understandthat men are on a much larger
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spectrum of sexual curiosity andexperimentation at all ages than
we know. And those of us who do know
would like to admit. And I'm not outing men.
I am trying to open a dialogue and a discussion and bring these
things out into the open. So the last thing I want to say
is I have my book, The Ultimate Financial Domination Guide,
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which is on Amazon Kindle and inBarnes and Noble, and it's
Amazon UK. It's all on my website,
santasiren.com. I'm going to start my memoir
this year and it's probably going to be a several part
memoir. It will be called a memoir in
series. And my ultimate goal with this
book, because my first book was just helping you girls trying to
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figure out how to navigate the dangers and the business acumen
side of how to become an OF girl, a phone PSO phone Cam
girl, that sort of thing. That's what my first book was,
how to keep yourself safe and learn the ABC's of starting your
own online business from home sex business.
Whether you're dominant or submissive, whatever your
character is, be a witch. You could be anything but my
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memoir and series is going to start with how a nice girl from
Hershey, PA ends up in such a precarious situation and finds
herself bankrupt with a newborn baby and climbing out.
Not just climbing out from the disaster my father put me,
placed me in, but building a whole fucking empire on the back
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of sex that this many years later, I've been able to turn
around and bring to you all of my lessons.
And that's really what this is about.
So as I begin writing the memoirand series, I'm going to be
looking for a literary agent. I know nothing about literary
agents, how to pitch them, but the goal would be to write the
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memoir, make it as interesting with all of these stories and
more that you haven't heard, andthen have it turned into a
series. Not unlike Riley Keogh's series
The Girlfriend Experiment or TheGirlfriend Experience, which is
Elvis's granddaughter. She did a series, I don't know
if it was on Hulu or Netflix, I don't remember, but it's called
The Girlfriend Experience. And for those of you trying to
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get into phone Cam, phone Cam Cam girl OF girl work, I
recommend that all of you or or high end escorting, I recommend
that all of you watch Riley Keogh, Lisa Marie Presley's
daughter in the Girlfriend Experience, because it's the
most realistic adaptation or rendition or portrayal of what I
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do. Even virtually, it's it's the
most realistic. So I'd like my memoir to be made
into a series for Netflix. But again, I'm much older than
the Riley Keogh character. She was in college, just
graduating college and trying topay bills.
This is a much different situation.
Mine, my story would lend itselfto, you know, younger women, but
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more older women looking to makea life change.
And, and there's a lot of anecdotal, you know, do's and
don'ts and stories about things to watch out for.
So I think it would make a good series, but that's what I'm
looking for. So if any of you have any advice
for me on how to find a literaryagent, how to go about the
process and and then how do I get it made into a Netflix
series? So anyway, that's, that's the
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goal. I have such ADHD.
If I don't go into each new yearwith a big list of things that I
need to accomplish, then I will just like wilt away.
I have to have major projects onmy plate and be knocking them
down, getting through my checklist one by one.
That is the only way that I can function is if I take on these
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big projects and I enjoy doing it.
So that's the 2026 goal. I wish all of you a very safe,
happy, healthy Christmas, Hanukkah, New Year, and I'm
super excited for what we're going to do together in 2026
because it's us. It ain't me.
I wouldn't be here without you. Thank you for listening.
The irony of this podcast is that my clients do call me
daddy. Well, hello, everybody, Welcome
back to Saint to Siren Podcast with the Violatrix.
That's me, Pamela, and I'm excited for today's episode.
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It's going to be a little like the way I speak, almost ADHD.
We're going to cover a lot of different topics, but a few
things as we kick off this episode.
Number 1, I want to acknowledge that we have made it to episode
10. I didn't think we would actually
make it to episode 10. I really thought I would call it
quits after two to three episodes, but I'm excited that
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here we are and you guys have been amazing.
And it's not me, it's us. It's been a journey and I'm
really excited when we get to 12.
That's that's a big number and it's just two episodes away.
So I'm very excited too. Thank you all again for the
comments, the feedback, the suggestions that you write
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underneath my podcast episodes on Spotify.
Without that feedback, again, it's I can't deliver to you what
it is that you're looking for and I can't curate the episode.
So again, your, your feedback isparamount is greatly
appreciated, as is when you rankor rate the podcast and share
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and when you're listening to multiple the multiple episodes
in a day. That's just crazy work and I'm
so appreciative. So a couple of quick things as
well. Last episode I mentioned that
old Pam with my old previous nose pre nose job when I first
started on Night Flirt and my name was Adriana ADRIANNAA.
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Adriana 2NS2A's. At the end, I was able to find
where those pictures are. They were under
flickrflickr.com, which is like a really old photo sharing site.
Again, we're going, we're harkening back to the days of
Myspace. So if you look up Adriana, NNAA
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Adriana with two NS 2A's on Night Flirt, Adriana, Night
Flirt, it's flickr.com. That's where I found those
pictures. I didn't actually find it, but I
had screenshot it in my camera roll and that's where I found
that. So if you're curious to see what
I used to look like when I started out and the aesthetic of
the early 2000s, which I do not recommend you do, but there you
go, you will see my very thin eyebrows and just horrific
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images of me. Let's see, I had a story to tell
you guys. I can't remember if I touched on
this story early in my podcast recording, like even the first 3
episodes. I don't think I told this whole
story. If I did, I apologize, but it's
always worth a second listen. So last week I covered my most
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horrific gross client. I have covered my most shocking
clients, my most gross clients, and now I'm going to do probably
what we can call the most unbelievable client story that
you will think I'm lying. That's what we're going to call
this you will think I'm lying client story.
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So I have one about the Illuminati.
I have one about the NFL. They also have what I deem to be
the most how do I say this? The most inconceivable client
that's ever come to me came to me two weeks ago.
He found me on Night Flirt again.
If you guys don't know, my primary platform is Night
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flirt.com. niteflirt.com. By the way, Night Flirt is now
on Instagram and they are now onTikTok under Night Flirt flirts
flirt or something. You just put in night Flirt and
you'll see it. It's black and white logo.
So they officially have joined the the ranks of social media,
which is shocking because they've had no social media
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presence ever previously. They've had no social media
presence ever previously. This is very exciting, and it's
also super exciting because theyare plastering me all over stuff
and I've been waiting for this for like, what, 1718 years?
OK, so one other thing I wanted to mention is I keep talking
about wanting to add guests to my podcast.
I'm making headway on those guests.
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I have an amazingly beautiful dominatrix in Germany.
There's one in Poland I really want to get on.
They are a little apprehensive because they think their English
isn't good enough. I mean, they speak arguably
better English than I do, but I'm working on that.
But a couple of quick things if you know of somebody who is a
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full service sex worker escort, high end escort I really want
like the high end escorts or youknow a fin Dom, dominatrix, Cam
girl OF girl or anything in between who would make a great
guest. Send her to me, tag her, talk
about her underneath my Spotify comments.
I'll see it immediately or send her to me to my socials and make
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a connection or to my website. I have the new website St. #2
siren.com so that should wrap upall my little notes.
I have a random thought I wantedto add in here.
I have a guy that's been textingme on night flirt.
There's a chat option where whether you're logged in or not,
if you're accepting chats they can chat you.
And I have a guy he likes to talk about circumcision and he's
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constantly asking my opinion on circumcision.
His mom did not circumcise him. If you ladies are listening to
me, any of you in your flirts oryour Cam girls or OF girls and
you have these guys in the chat who are just asking your opinion
whether it's rape, my Dick, let me send you a Dick pic or what
do you think about circumcision?Would you circumcise your son?
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Don't engage them. I had to tell him after three
sentences I was nice, I was cordial.
But then after three sentences, I said to him, if you'd like to
discuss circumcision further, you may call my line.
This conversation is over. To which he came back at me and
said, oh, you won't just chat here about it.
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No, Mr. Circumcision fetishist Kingster, I'm not going to sit
here for $0.99 per volley and get you off when you're trying
to disguise a full session for $0.99 per volley because you're
too cheap to pick up the phone at 399 and call me for a real
session. You're going to disguise it to
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look like a conversation, but you're sitting there with your
Dick in your hand. You're stroking it the whole
time while you ask me endless inane, repetitive circular
questions about my opinion on circumcision.
So this isn't specific to circumcision.
This is specific to the guys that send you the random Dick
pics or the guys. There's often guys that will
send you pictures of their wives.
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They want you to rate their wives.
Don't engage in it. I used to fall for it years ago.
I was like oh if I'll just talk to him he'll buy a session.
No, it doesn't work that way. The more you give for free, the
more you're giving them opportunity and incentive to
never pick up the phone and callyou.
Everything with you stays behinda pay wall and that includes
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your opinions and your time. What is our most valuable asset
in life? It's not money.
It's actually not health. It's time.
These guys and some of them are very good at it.
They are going to try to exploit, steal, and take your
time while they've got their Dick in their hand and basically
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that's tantamount to a free session.
Don't do it, don't fall for it. Unless you are a chatter, then
that's a whole different discussion.
Then I can teach you how to baitthem along stretching out the
session. If you're just a chatter and you
don't want them picking up the phone, then you're just going to
do a series of questions. Everything they ask you, you
quasi answer it and then you turn around and ask them for
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each thing they ask. You ask 5 three to five
questions below whatever they just asked and you get them
talking. Remember at the end of the day,
when people think about you, reflect on you after they've met
you, they don't reflect on what a nice person you are.
They don't reflect on the great conversation, what they reflect
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upon. And this goes for any person you
meet in life, any family member,any person you meet socially,
work, doesn't matter. Dating people remember how you
made them feel and you should remember this is the golden rule
of how you treat people and how you'd like to be treated.
People don't remember the thingsyou said are the things you did.
They remember how you made them feel.
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And if you can get on a human level with these guys and really
take an interest, you know, one of the things that I constantly
say to my clients is well, I understand you're interested in
sissification, cuckolding, forced by tease and denial.
You know it forced intox, whatever it is and I appreciate
that. I need to know a little bit
about you because no to forced by cut golds, tease and denial
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stocking fetish No2 XYZ clients are the same.
So I really need to get some information because this is not
a cookie cutter one-size-fits-all.
This is customized to you and your needs specifically.
How do you think that makes themfeel?
Pretty damn good. Sells the session every time.
That's if they're in chat or when you begin the call.
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On this same note, I also want to add something else.
It is very easy for women who enter the phone sex Cam girl
anything adult industry. It's very easy to get the
mindset that it's a smash and grab and take advantage of these
men, even in fandom. There's a couple of points I'd
like to make to this. First and foremost, I want you
to understand that you have gentlemen calling you who have
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autism, who are lonely, who are widowed, widoward, widowed
widow, whatever. They lost their wife.
You're going to have men. They're very isolated.
They don't go out often. There is a sense of compassion
that you must bring to this job or you won't do very well.
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There's a service that your clients are owed.
And even if you're playing a fendom bitch, there's a time and
a place for everything. And even if your brand is
complete and total dominatrix whip bitch, there still has to
be an ounce, a modicum of humanity.
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OK, these are men. They have feelings, they have
emotions. And unless you're just the smash
and grab type, you're in to justgo through one client after
another, never garnering yourself a clientele list, a
repeat client list. You must take notes and take
your time and take personal carewith each client.
How do I do this? The first thing I do is ask a
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series of questions about how old are you?
What coast are you on? Tell me about what line of work
you're in. I build a mental profile in my
head of who this gentleman is. And that way when he calls me
and I have the notes in my portal.
But I remember, oh, it's Billy Bob from Texas.
He owns, you know, oil wells, and he likes to wear his wife's
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panties. And he's got two daughters in
college. It just helps because these
clients will all run together. So if you don't ask a few
specific markers in the beginning, it's very difficult
to differentiate one client fromanother.
So immediately I'm like location, line of work.
You don't want to scare them offby asking too many questions.
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But it's really easy for me to remember Billy Bob the oil guy,
or Tony the grandfather in New Jersey, or Craig the cuckold to
his wife, the financial planner in San Francisco, or, you know,
on and on on Billy who was sexually assaulted by a
stepfather and likes to replay those memories with me because
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they still unfortunately do something to him.
So it's more of a psychology session.
They don't say what is your name?
I say, what would you like to becalled?
That's a little less intimidating and off putting
than saying what is your name? I say, what do you like to be
called? OK, if they ask you what you
like to be called, have that at the ready and make sure it's
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your screen name or a title and never your real name.
But I had a gentleman call me yesterday.
He's called me many times and weactually did a Cam session for
the first time. His name is Peter, and Peter
lives in the California coastal area.
You. Peter was older and I said to
him yesterday, last night, I said, Peter, you're 65.
I said hello to you and he's at 68.
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And that's when I realized Peterfrom the coast of California who
likes to stick things inside hispee pee, which is called
sounding, which I made him stop,by the way, after he began
bleeding. Yes, that's a true story.
As a matter of fact, I'm going to post a clip of Peter on my
socials because I recorded some of the session last night.
But this is really anecdotal story for you to take home right
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now. What I'm about to tell you, I've
spoken to Peter many times. I'm usually a total bitch to him
because he seems old and kind ofweirdo and he stutters and
repeats himself a lot. I just thought he was scattered.
Well we did a Cam call and we did it through first it was
through night flirt and Discord but it was malfunctioning.
So then we moved. He sent me money through Night
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Flirt and we moved our camera toInstagram when I saw Peter in
person. Peter was a little old Jewish
man. He's 68 now.
It's been three years since he'sbeen my client.
He was so dear. He was so lovely.
He's lonely and Peter is lookingfor companionship.
I told him. He said he's going to the
synagogue. I said, you know, join some
groups, let people know in the synagogue you're looking for a
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woman, you're looking for a wife, a companionship, you know.
And anyway, the long story of itwas after we did a session and
he was able, I was able to bringhim to orgasm, which was not
that difficult. There was still like 40 minutes
in the session. I didn't hang up on him.
Normally. I would if he was a younger guy
or whatever the situation. Normally I'm always the first to
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disconnect the call. I did not do that.
Somehow we got on the topic of the Civil War.
We talked about the fact that I'm from Pennsylvania, and I
said that I was considering dragging my kids to Gettysburg
when we get back to Pennsylvaniafor Christmas, taking my kids
for a side tour to the Gettysburg battlefield before we
head on to Manhattan. And we began talking about, have
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you ever seen the footage of theConfederacy?
There's some really old footage of a reenactment of a few old
Confederate soldiers from the actual Battle of Gettysburg.
And I said, Peter, I said we lost more men in the American
Civil War than any war, correct.He said we lost more men in the
American Civil War than all warscombined.
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And he was so thrilled that Peter was very autistic.
He's a programmer. The minute you hear computer
programmer analyst type of thing, you know that you're
dealing with a gentleman who's probably on spectrum.
I have a daughter on spectrum. I have a husband on spectrum.
I am the spectrum whisperer. So I switched out of Dom mode,
which I had been in, and we began talking about everything
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from the Hessian rebel fighters to the Battle of Gettysburg to
the Mason Dixon line, Underground Railroad, the
Louisiana Purchase, Lewis and Clark, the Louisiana Purchase,
Merriweather Post, how we ended up getting the money to buy
Louisiana from Napoleon, like the whole story.
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And I. And then we got into like this
whole thing about Thomas Jefferson, who is my favorite
president. And Thomas Jefferson's
plantation is called Monticello.We talked about how he's an
extremely controversial Thomas Jefferson is a completely
controversial president. But we deep dove it.
He said he's been there. He's seen Sally Hemings, you
know, lodging. And, you know, I don't know how
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much you know about Thomas Jefferson.
My point is we spent 20 minutes of the call, 15 minutes getting
him off, and the last 40 minuteswe spent talking about history,
architecture, my family. My mother is Italian from
Florence, my father's Italian from Sicily.
I said that my mother's a Spinelli and the Spinellis were
bankers and he said they were part of the Medici's.
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I said actually the Medici's, the Medici family were rivals to
the Spinelli's. And Peter said to me, I've been
to fit ends. Have you been at the, you know,
And we talked, I said, no, it's a dream of mine.
I'd love to go. And we talked about the fact
that my great ancestor Jacquemo Spinelli is in the Medici
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series. I think it was on HBO in the
Priori scene in the courtroom opposite Cosimo Medici.
Anyway, it was really fascinating.
And Peter says to me, do you know that the Medicis, the
Medicis, they invented capitalism?
And I said, no, I said, how so? I know that the Renaissance, the
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seat of the Renaissance is Florence, Italy.
And they invented pretty much everything we know about art and
culture that was Ground Zero. And he said the Medici is what
they would do is they would get a bunch of investors together.
They would invest in a ship and it would go sail to exotic
destinations and come back with rugs and furs and jewelry and
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minerals and oils. And then they would split up the
the goods and the proceeds. And he said that was the birth
of capitalism. I had no idea.
My long and drawn out point hereis you never know who you're
going to meet. You never know whose life you're
going to touch. I got more out of that
conversation with Peter that last 40 minutes then I've gotten
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out of a conversation with any single human being in my life in
probably the last six months. When we got off the phone, Peter
sent me a tip and told me that Iam beautiful and brilliant were
his exact words. So I want you to understand
always, always bring a a part ofyourself and a piece of humanity
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to this and you will be surprised how it will hook in
the regular clients. It will make you real.
It will make the relationship real.
And this is what we do. We are in relationship based
business. We are relationship based
selling. What makes Peter pick up the
phone and call me versus anotherflirt?
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Because Peter knows that when hecalls me, he's not just going to
get off. There's going to have some
pretty enjoyable conversation and back and forth banter about
topics no one else is discussingIn the meantime.
So I hope you understand the take away here.
Treat this not just as a business, but as a personal
investment in yourself and theseclients and it will pay in
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dividends. Let's get to my stories.
The Illuminati. I don't want to start with the
Illuminati story because I frankly don't like this
Illuminati story. The gentleman that used to call
me was creepy and it's it. That's this story has stayed
with me for years. It's also a little dicey as far
as what I'm going to say. I don't want to turn off any
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listeners. So let's begin with the NFL
story. And the NFL story is not just
shocking and salacious. And anybody who's an American,
let alone football fan, NFL fan,you're probably going to have to
grab your chest and fall over and maybe need CPR after you
hear what I'm about to say. This NFL story is not just
shocking, salacious and entertainment, but there's an
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important piece of this. When you look at this story,
when you listen to my story through the vantage point of the
gentleman who was calling me, you're going to see this from a
submissive, a client's vantage point, his viewpoint.
And that's going to turn everything you know about what I
teach and what I do about Finn Dom is going to turn it on its
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head. I'm going to begin my NFL story
with explaining to you how this first began.
The guy's name is very recognizable, so and it was
really funny and very Italian. So we're going to we're going to
change his name to Luigi becausehis name is equally as Italian,
funny and I'm Italian, so I can say that Luigi called me up.
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On Night Flirt, this is probablynow going back 567 years ago,
Luigi calls me and he begins to tell me that he was with a bunch
of NFL players the previous night.
I thought he was full of shit and I thought it was a fantasy,
a role play, so I ran with it. You could tell he was out of
breath and he was excited. He was exhilarated.
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Beyond exhilarated. Like he was so excited and I was
like, OK, this is a fun call. He was a really sweet guy.
Now Luigi, from what I understood, picture like a Danny
DeVito type, except taller, muchtaller, big beefy Italian man
Luigi, hairy chest, big arms. I think he's overweight.
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So just picture like a younger, taller Danny DeVito type.
OK, he was all of the sudden just switched into this super
effeminate role and basically Luigi was a big burly guy that
is irresponsible for the new players, the new recruits in the
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NFL on a particular major NFL team.
Not going to mention what part of the country because all of
this would be easily tracked andI don't want him outed.
So he's in charge of the new recruits who show up, I guess,
for training camp at the end of the summer.
Now, bear in mind, I've been a cheerleader my whole life.
I'm born and raised around football.
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My whole family, my husband, everybody loves football.
But I know nothing about football except for the
cheerleading end of it, I guess.The new recruits, which are
usually young black guys, the new NFL recruits, they come and
they show up for the summer campand they show up before the
seasoned players. And then they get indoctrinated
into where to go, what to do, where the training camp is and
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everything in between, learning the ropes before the NFL season
begins in the fall. So Luigi is responsible for
overseeing these boys. Now, obviously Luigi had a
college background football play.
He was a college football player.
OK. You don't get into this trainer,
you know, leader position unlessyou have a background in
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football. So he's a big, burly type
football player. So he calls me and he's like, I
was with all these NFL rookies, recruits last night, and they
were doing this to me and they were doing that to me.
And then he got off and he hung up, and then he called back
again. And you'll get clients like
this. They get so excited, they come,
but then they want to call you back.
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So over the course of that day, he called me about four times.
Each descending call, he's telling me more and more
details. And I began to realize this
isn't a fantasy. This is really who he is and
this is what he does. This really happened.
So now I'm switching gears in myhead.
I'm taking it from role play to now I have to know everything.
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So I start asking him and I'm like, wait, this really
happened? He said yes, the players showed
up. It's the beginning of training
season. He said they come in, I'm in
charge of showing them their lockers, showing them where
everything works. And every year I invite them to
my house, which is I guess on the campus of wherever the
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wherever the property is that the part I don't know, but it's
within that NFL campus. And Luigi has a house and a
really nice one, and he brings them over for a cocktail
evening, kind of like a meet andgreet to get to know each other.
Well, this is where it takes a weird turn.
The older players tell the rookies that what they have to
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do is go to Luigi's house when they get there and do sort of a
meet and greet and get familiar with him.
And he has like a cocktail nightAnd they watch football, they
watch sport, they watch whatever, whatever the heck is
on at that time of the year. And they kind of get to know
each other as the conversations rolled out.
Here is the story of what I understood happened.
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And I know it's what happened because he then became a regular
client. And then I got the full details.
These young men would show up and he would show them their
lockers. He would show them where
everything is. And then I like within the first
couple of nights that they're intown, they would come over to
his house. Luigi, because the older players
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on the team had all been throughthis kind of indoctrination,
this kind of, I don't want to call it a hazing because these
young players, these rookies areabsolutely in charge of what
they're doing. They would come over and he
would make them cocktails. They would sit on the couch.
They start to get to know each other.
At some point in the evening, these rookies unzip their pants.
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They're all sitting on the couchand there could be anywhere from
5:00 to 11:50. Guys, they're sitting there.
They pull out, They pull their pants down.
They pull out their cocks. Luigi disappears and goes and
changes into pink panties. Now he's got a pink pedicure,
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He's got a manicure, and I can'tremember what else he puts on.
Maybe there was like a bow in his hair or something.
I can't remember. You guys, are you picturing
this? This is like Danny DeVito if he
was in college. Coach, football player, big
burly guy with a hairy chest anda hairy ass.
He's in a pink thong, a pink pedicure, and now he's on all
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fours and he's going straight down the line servicing each one
of these rookies. And when I say servicing, he is
pulling their cocks out, he is sucking their Dicks, He's
stroking them. They're telling him things like
white boy, suck my Dick, white boy, suck this big.
I can't. I don't know what I can say
here, but he would they would tell him suck this big.
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You know what, Iger Dick, come on, white boy.
And then, you know, like he would be completely forced them
sisified. He's a he is a forced them
sisified submissive. You're not even a cuckold.
He's just he is a Sissy. So he would kind of crawl around
and then at some point there's usually one guy that takes the
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lead, gets up and starts fuckingLuigi in his mouth.
And then another one will come around him and mount him and
start fucking his ass. And then the next thing you
know, they are just like, what do you call that?
Spit roasting or double teaming DP, whatever.
They're fucking Luigi every way to Sunday.
Who's coming on him? Who's jerking off on his back,
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who's turned themselves around on the couch and expose their
ass and he's just going down theline licking their asses.
Now, please bear in mind this iswhat I'm being told and I'm not
being told this once or twice. I was told this systematically
over a series of years. So again, he's protected enough
because I've changed enough of the details that I don't think
anybody will figure out who he is.
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But those of you who are on the NFL team who visited Luigi's
house, you know who you are. And yes, I know.
So it would turn out that the the seasoned players on the team
would tell the boys the rookies go to the house and they'd
really didn't know what to expect.
And this was kind of like almostlike a fraternity.
This was their hazing, their initiation.
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And Luigi would work in conjunction with the older
players to get these guys over there.
And it just became a thing. And then all season, they would
go to Luigi's house, he would make them cocktails, he'd come
out sometimes in a maid uniform,even with his pedicure and his
pink panties. And he would serve them drinks.
And they would fuck his mouth, fuck his holes, fuck him all
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night long. This is a true story.
And then many of them really gotinto it.
Some of them would go visit him alone.
Some of them brought their girlfriends.
Which brings me to the next part.
I found it so difficult to believe that the girlfriends
were taking part in this. And I was like, what?
OK, first of all, what do the girlfriends look like?
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Because you and I both know, because we're women mostly that
you're listening to this. I'm like, what's the girlfriends
look like? And he was like, cuz I'm
thinking he if he's lying and he's a man, he's not going to.
He's like, oh, they're thin. They're they're, they're thin,
they're tall. They look like models.
They're usually blonde. Sometimes you have a couple of
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brunettes or Latinas, but they are built, they are thin or they
are curvy. They have expensive purses.
So now I'm like, OK, like he wasgiving me some detail.
So I'm like, what did they do while they're watching their
fiance, husband, boyfriend mountyou spit roast, you double team.
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He's like, well, sometimes they just, I make them more drinks,
they drink cocktail. I imagine that there was other
substance being thrown around. He's like, and sometimes the
girls start playing with themselves.
And this was at a time where because it was like 5 to 7 years
ago, I back then, I really had like a hard judgement thing
about straight men in relationships that like I was
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like, what girl would ever watchtheir man be with another man,
whether they're giving or receiving?
And what I know now all these years later is that, as I said
in the last episode, the last podcast episode, it's a new
landscape. I mean, it's men, especially
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alpha men. At the end of the day, if he's
truly alpha, he doesn't care whoowns the whole that's good about
to get him off that his conch isabout to go into.
They only care about getting offand the shock value of doing it
to another man, let alone this big burly white man, let alone
be able to being able to add in the race card, the race play.
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Come on, white boy. Open your mouth, boy.
Boy, they spank him, they cum onhim, they make him a mess, they
throw him around. I mean, they really abuse the
hell out of him and he loves it.You have to understand this is
his kink. He wants this.
The excitement in this man's voice when he calls me.
And he's also very high pitched and sometime he'll go into a
much higher pitched voice and Ohmy God, when he comes, it sounds
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like, I don't want to say, but it sounds like Minnie Mouse
having an orgasm. Like his voice is so high
pitched. But the girlfriends get into it.
Sometimes the guys sneak over with the girlfriends and
sometimes they sneak over without them.
Like I said, sometimes the rookies go back by themselves
and then once the rest of the team joins, they show up.
And now you've got the rookies and the Ogs, all tag teaming,
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all tag teaming Luigi. So that is the story.
And he actually was able to giveme enough names that I went and
watched football that week and Isaw who he was talking about and
he was pretty accurate in his descriptions.
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And anyway, that is the story. Now why would Luigi call me?
Well, because the submissive isn't allowed to enjoy himself.
He's there to serve. So Luigi wasn't getting any
enjoyment, although he was enjoying being abused.
His enjoyment comes like, you know, like a serial killer who
takes like locks of hair and panties and jewelry and like
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works himself up after the murder by going through his
mementos, his token from the murder.
It's the same with these guys. They will call me to relive the
fantasy A it's the shock value that they tell me Oh my God, Can
you believe this? No, they love hearing me being
shocked. But moreover, they want to
relive it over and over again because they weren't allowed to
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have an orgasm during the tag team dogpile of NFL players and
and rookies. So now they call me to relive
it. So it extends because it's not a
fantasy and it was reality. It extends their enjoyment.
It extends the reality of what happened because now days later,
they're calling me, they're stroking themselves, they're
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getting off by telling me the story and reliving the details
in real time over the phone withme.
So it keeps that fantasy alive. But again, they're also not to
show any enjoyment. Like if he had tried to have an
orgasm in front of them, they probably would have beaten the
hell out of him. And I do believe there was a lot
of physical abuse going on. But again, remember this is
consensual. Luigi wanted to be sissified,
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fucked, sucked, beaten, gaping, like you name it.
He wanted full CNC. If you guys don't know what CNC
is, it's consensual, non consensual.
So it's a grape situation that'sbeen consented to prior.
So, and I remember him getting pretty graphic and I of course,
me because I'm such a I'm such asucker for tea and gossip.
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I'm like, what I look like, Do you unzip their pants or do they
unzip it? He's like, sometimes they unzip
it. Sometimes I'll do it for them.
I'm like, who starts 1st? And he's like this one?
And I'm like, did they all do islike sometimes the other ones
will whip their Dicks out, whip their cocks out.
They sometimes the others just sit there and wait.
Some some just like to watch. Some don't let me touch them.
Some just stroke themselves. Some just come home and slap me
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in the face with their cock or cum in my face.
Some are just interested in anally raping me.
I swear to you this like I have no reason to lie.
Why would I lie about this? And how could I possibly conjure
this story up in my head? So Luigi, if you are listening,
hopefully I haven't heard from you in a few years.
I miss you. I love the stories.
I hope you're not upset with me for sharing this.
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And please come back to me because I would do anything to
hear the updated stories of whatis happening in your life.
So I hope you guys really enjoyed this one, but I know
that you'll never view the NFL the same again.
And it's it's not dissimilar to college fraternities in in the
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United States. The things that go on.
My brother went to Penn State main campus and he rushed Delta
Upsilon fraternity on at Penn State Maine his freshman year.
My father let him move into the the fraternity house and paid
dues just was like my dad was paying room and board in the
dorms. He's like, fuck it, just the the
king of Hershey, Glenn Capeta can have anything he wants.
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And he moved straight into the fraternity house and dad paid
the dues. But the things that they made my
brother do, which at the time I was in middle school, so I only
know a few of them, but all of these things are not that
shocking because it's a group, it's a crew, it's athletics,
it's college type situation. It's a group of strong men
initiating others. So it's not really that shocking
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because if you ever deep dive, especially, there's porn out
there for like fraternity initiation porn or sorority
initiation. And back in the old days, we
didn't have, you know, cameras, camera phones and video and, you
know, access to those things. But if you ever look up the porn
that's like fraternity, sororityrush initiation, you'll see far
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worse than what I'm talking about.
So it's not that unbelievable. It was to me seven years ago
because you think of an NFL player, you think of him dating
a supermodel, marrying, you know, some famous singer.
But at the end of the day, the take home from this is a hole is
a hole if he's alpha and in the hierarchy of alpha, big daddy
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alpha bull, especially BBC, who's more alpha in the United
States, let alone potentially the world than an NFL player.
Maybe like the Maori rugby players, NFL, they sit to the
right hand of God as far as alpha Ness.
So anyway, that's that. Stories like this are the reason
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that I brought the podcast to these platforms.
These are not stories that I cantell on regular social media.
These are not stories that anybody would believe unless you
followed me and you understand the breadth of experience, the
years of experience that I have doing what I do.
And I've been discreet. I'm the consummate professional,
so I am trusted. These men, especially high level
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men, trust me with these stories.
Maybe not now they don't. But I'm bringing this
information mostly for awarenessI think.
I'm on this app called FieldfeldF EE, LD and I'm all over the
world. I just keep changing my
location. I'm talking to men submissive
and dominant all over the world and I am learning so much and I
now believe in 2025, almost 26, I now believe more than ever
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that men, especially powerful men will derive pleasure in any
way they see fit. And it doesn't matter if it's a
man, if it's if it's a trans girl, it doesn't matter the
whole. I now also know that trans girls
are not just a fancy like a fly by night fancy for some of these
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men and off the cuff a whim kinkor fetish.
I now know that there are absolutely straight men that
want to be fucking a trans girl from behind while reaching
around and jerking the trans girl.
That is a big kink or fetish forwhat we would consider
mainstream straight men. And I think the awareness of
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what I'm bringing, the exposure of what I'm bringing to the
table is incredibly important. And I think women need to know
and understand. Not your man.
Yes, your man too. As I look through my notes, I've
hit on everything I wanted to discuss today, including
encouraging you to recommend guests, and I mean really good
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guests, women that can trump my knowledge, that can better me.
I need women that have more experience, different experience
than me to make it a an educational opportunity for you
to make it a fun episode for you, a fun episodes for you to
listen to. But I want to learn something.
If I'm learning something, you're definitely going to be
learning something and I can always break it down in the
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correct way. So if you have someone write it
underneath the Spotify comments or Instagram or YouTube or
whatever, preferably Instagram or underneath my Spotify.
And if any of you are in the in the adult sex industry, a sex
worker, which is really what we are.
I may be PSO phone sex operator but I am a sex worker.
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Not full service, cyber or virtual.
But that doesn't make me any less of a sex worker.
I used to. I used to get so mad my older
daughter used to call me a sex worker and I was like I'm not a
sex worker. And now I realize, well I guess
I am a sex worker. So now I'm just embracing it.
Remember with me it's like pushing a rock up a hill.
Many of these terms and things. And also remember I didn't come
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out from the shadows until a fewyears ago.
My father died exactly 2 Christmases ago and if I had
ever come out with any of this prior to his death, he would
have flown from Hershey to Vegas.
My father's never picked up a gun in his life, but I guarantee
he would have gotten a gun, learned how to shoot it, and
shot me point blank between the eyes.
With pleasure if my very old school Donato Clemente Capeta
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Italian father knew that this iswhat I was doing.
But he can thank himself becauseif you've listened to episodes
1-2 and three, you know that thereason why I got into phone sex
is because he fucking ruined me because I was trying to have a
baby out of wedlock and he thought that was bringing shame
on our family name. Which is hilarious because my
family is not a family. It's the biggest crime syndicate
I've ever seen. I I'm deep diving my family on
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ancestry right now as a side hobby.
I don't know if any of you know I'm obsessed with DNA and haplo
groups and there's a whole lot of secrets in my family that I'm
trying to uncover and and I'm uncovering them bit by bit.
It's just the unfortunate part is it's taking me forever
because everybody's dead. But I'm bringing shame on the
family by being a successful director of admissions for a
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college and I owned 3 rental properties and I was just ready
to have a baby because I couldn't find a man I liked and
my parents marriage sucked so badly.
I didn't want to fall into that trap.
Silly me thinking he was going to support me.
He almost killed me, but he instead of killing me and
getting me to abort my baby or kicking me in the stomach with
the Italian loafer in which he tried to again, you have to go
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back and listen to episodes 1-2 and three.
I was bankrupted and on the balls of my ass with a newborn
baby. And how did I climb back up from
the depths of hell? Well, by doing this, by becoming
a phone sex operator first, it scores online chat Hostess.
In the early Wild West days of webcamming, Scores strip club in
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New York City was opening up their virtual division.
This is during Myspace. Facebook was just being invented
at that time and that's how it all happened.
So my point is, this is all new to me.
I've only been able to come out in the last two years because my
father is deceased and I don't have to sleep with one eye open
thinking he's going to come hereand shoot, hang, or run me over.
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Sorry, Dad, if you're listening from heaven or wherever you may
be, but you did this to me, so Ihave no guilt.
But most importantly, I need youladies to understand that we
women, especially those of us raised in conservative homes,
really do not understand. Our mothers didn't understand,
and our grandmothers certainly didn't understand.
I don't think that we understandthat men are on a much larger
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spectrum of sexual curiosity andexperimentation at all ages than
we know. And those of us who do know
would like to admit. And I'm not outing men.
I am trying to open a dialogue and a discussion and bring these
things out into the open. So the last thing I want to say
is I have my book, The Ultimate Financial Domination Guide,
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which is on Amazon Kindle and inBarnes and Noble, and it's
Amazon UK. It's all on my website,
santasiren.com. I'm going to start my memoir
this year and it's probably going to be a several part
memoir. It will be called a memoir in
series. And my ultimate goal with this
book, because my first book was just helping you girls trying to
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figure out how to navigate the dangers and the business acumen
side of how to become an OF girl, a phone PSO phone Cam
girl, that sort of thing. That's what my first book was,
how to keep yourself safe and learn the ABC's of starting your
own online business from home sex business.
Whether you're dominant or submissive, whatever your
character is, be a witch. You could be anything but my
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memoir and series is going to start with how a nice girl from
Hershey, PA ends up in such a precarious situation and finds
herself bankrupt with a newborn baby and climbing out.
Not just climbing out from the disaster my father put me,
placed me in, but building a whole fucking empire on the back
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of sex that this many years later, I've been able to turn
around and bring to you all of my lessons.
And that's really what this is about.
So as I begin writing the memoirand series, I'm going to be
looking for a literary agent. I know nothing about literary
agents, how to pitch them, but the goal would be to write the
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memoir, make it as interesting with all of these stories and
more that you haven't heard, andthen have it turned into a
series. Not unlike Riley Keogh's series
The Girlfriend Experiment or TheGirlfriend Experience, which is
Elvis's granddaughter. She did a series, I don't know
if it was on Hulu or Netflix, I don't remember, but it's called
The Girlfriend Experience. And for those of you trying to
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get into phone Cam, phone Cam Cam girl OF girl work, I
recommend that all of you or or high end escorting, I recommend
that all of you watch Riley Keogh, Lisa Marie Presley's
daughter in the Girlfriend Experience, because it's the
most realistic adaptation or rendition or portrayal of what I
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do. Even virtually, it's it's the
most realistic. So I'd like my memoir to be made
into a series for Netflix. But again, I'm much older than
the Riley Keogh character. She was in college, just
graduating college and trying topay bills.
This is a much different situation.
Mine, my story would lend itselfto, you know, younger women, but
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more older women looking to makea life change.
And, and there's a lot of anecdotal, you know, do's and
don'ts and stories about things to watch out for.
So I think it would make a good series, but that's what I'm
looking for. So if any of you have any advice
for me on how to find a literaryagent, how to go about the
process and and then how do I get it made into a Netflix
series? So anyway, that's, that's the
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goal. I have such ADHD.
If I don't go into each new yearwith a big list of things that I
need to accomplish, then I will just like wilt away.
I have to have major projects onmy plate and be knocking them
down, getting through my checklist one by one.
That is the only way that I can function is if I take on these
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big projects and I enjoy doing it.
So that's the 2026 goal. I wish all of you a very safe,
happy, healthy Christmas, Hanukkah, New Year, and I'm
super excited for what we're going to do together in 2026
because it's us. It ain't me.
I wouldn't be here without you. Thank you for listening.
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