From Hive to Health: Unlocking the Ancient Wisdom of Bees with Angela Ysseldyk of Dutchman's Gold - Episode 266 - Sandy K Nutrition - Health & Lifestyle Queen

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Hi everyone, welcome to SandyKay Nutrition, health and
Lifestyle Queen.
Today with me, I have a specialguest and her name is Angela
Iseldyke, and she is theco-owner of Dutchman's Gold.
They are a honey and beehivewellness company and they are
not located too far away from me, so please be sure to listen to

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this entire podcast, because weare going to talk all about the
powerful benefits of raw honeypropolis, why bees are so
important to the environment andmore.
On another note, I released aspecial episode on Friday and
really it's all geared to thewellness and prevention from a

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young woman's perspective.
I was inspired to record thisand, who knows, maybe I'm going
to make it a series, but onFriday I released a podcast.
I would love for you to shareit with your daughters, with
anyone who has a daughter thatis a young woman navigating

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their own journey in wellnessand really just some wisdom from
myself, a 55-year-old woman whostarted to have health
challenges in my early 40s.
I believe that wellness startsat a very young age and you know

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, being a 1970 baby, I you knowI wasn't really cognizant of any
of that.
I didn't really even thinkabout that and I think, just
because of the world that welive in now, it's more important
to teach this to our youngwomen.
And, of course, it all beginswith our senses and being in
touch with how we feel.

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So I think this is a reallyimportant episode.
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And now let's cut on through tothis amazing interview with
Angela Iseldyke of Dutchman'sGold.
Hi everyone, welcome to Sandy KNutrition, health and Lifestyle
Queen.
Today with me I have a specialguest and her name is Angela
Isildyke and she is anutritionist and the co-owner of

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Dutchman's Gold, a honey andbeehive wellness company based
in Hamilton, ontario.
I'm going local guys today.
This is great.
And this beehive and wellnesscompany was owned by her parents
, who are master beekeepers, andthey started this in the 80s.

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She's passionate about the beesand loves to educate on the
incredible superfoods andingredients from the hive, from
honey to propolis, royal jellyand bee pollen propolis, royal

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jelly and bee pollen.
And today we're going to talkabout the powerful benefits of
raw honey, propolis and more,and where processed sugars may
sneak into your diet that you'renot even considering.
And this goes for you, for yourfamily.
This is going to be afamily-friendly conversation
because many people who listento my podcast have children.
Many of you have youngerchildren, some older, like

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myself, some young adults.
So this is going to be a greateducational podcast for everyone
.
And I'm going to ask you,angela, can I ever visit your
beehive?

Angela Ysseldyk (10:23):
You certainly can.
Well, would you give you aspecial invite?
Oh, we've got 97 acres is a fewyards.
But yes, don't worry, Invitewill come your way Once the bees
are buzzing.
Obviously, right now, if you'relistening, it's there's snow on
the ground and so the bees areoverwintering right now.
But yes, I would love that.

I would love that.
That would be so cool.
Anyway, I just want to thankyou for coming today and welcome
to the podcast, angela.

Thank you so much, sandy.
It's such a pleasure to meetyou.
I've been listening to yourpodcast and so it's just so
great to be here.

Thanks, so you have to tell me your story.
I did say that you know yourparents owned this since the 80s
, so you grew up with this.

I did.
I mean I grew up on theDutchman's Gold Honey Farm so I
was surrounded by bees and honeyand really that hard work of
entrepreneurial and beekeepingparents.
So my childhood was veryhands-on, we were very much a
part of the business, everythingfrom bottling honey, going out
and beekeeping, extracting, thenselling the honey off our very
front porch.
I mean we were my parents werekind of like hippies as well, so

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we made bread and granola andpicked flowers and sold stuff
off our front porch.
I mean that's just asentrepreneurial as you get,
right.
We answered the phone, we madebeeswax, candles, you name it.
Really just learning firsthandabout the incredible world of
the bees but also what it takesto make a business thrive.
So, and work ethic, right.
But I mean I think that wasreally the majority of my

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childhood.
But then from there I think itplanted the seed for me to
pursue more interest in wellnessand nutrition.
So I became a certifiednutritional practitioner as well
as obtained my degree inbusiness.
So I've worked between becausethat's what we do, right, we
don't always think we're goingto stay in the family business.
So I went out and worked fordifferent nutraceutical
companies.

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I worked as a nutritionalconsultant, sales and marketing
and leadership, and ended upworking in the end for Jameson
Wellness and I was director ofeducation and training where I
gained a ton of experience justworking with small to large
businesses and the sciencebehind functional foods and
supplements.
So it feels really great to comeback to your roots.

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You know what I mean.
That kind of happens sometimeswhere somehow, as you go through
life, you have differentseasons, and so coming back to
my roots has really been ablessing and I think this has
been the plan the whole time.
So I found my way back.
So now I run the businessalongside my husband, mark, and
we balance sort of thattradition because you know my

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parents brought things to acertain level which was their
ceiling, and now that's becomekind of our floor.
So we're really looking on.
You know, how can we scale?
How can we tell more peopleabout the benefits of the
beehive?
How can we talk more about thebees and talk about these
functional benefits?
So no matter what I did overthe past, it was really deeply
rooted in nutrition and wellnessand really empowering people to

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have an extraordinary life justby making simple, better
choices, including myself.

I love it.
I love it and you know Inoticed that that happens a lot
of the time is that we go backto what was more inherent and
what was more rooted in us.
It's just like my parents areEastern European.
Okay, they were not hippies,they were traditional farmers.

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They grew up on farms wherethey lived off the land
literally.
And you know my dad is nowgoing to be 88 in April, so he's
been around a long time and youknow he's been around.

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And when I hear their stories,it really it makes me value that
foundation that I have andhearing how they lived, because,
facts are, we can't gobackwards in time, but I do feel
like there's many things thatwe can do to emulate a healthier
way of living.
So I totally relate to whatyou're saying.

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But let's start with aconversation about bees, because
one thing I've noticed youprobably noticed it too is that
over the last few years, socialmedia influencers, whatever, I'm
not sure I like to hear, I likethat word, but a lot of people

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on social media are doing abetter job of educating on the
importance of bees.
And these are those littleclips that I go.
Okay, this is importantinformation, so do you, can you
get into bees, and I just findthem so fascinating.

I know bees are very fascinating and they're so
important.
So let's just think of the bigpicture here.
We wouldn't be here on thisearth if it weren't for the bees
and that sounds like a crazystatement to make, but they are
part of our ecosystem.
So one third of the food thatwe eat that's on our plate.
It's responsible of that.
That.
Pollination is responsible byeither a bee or a pollinator,

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but mostly majority is bees, andso they are very important for
helping our ecosystem survive.
So that's really reallyimportant.
The next time you look at yourplate, understand and appreciate
those bees, because they'resuper important for our survival
.
So bees work really hard andthey are.
I think that there are somerisks to bees, right?

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So that's why theenvironmentalists and maybe
influencers or whatever it maybe, are talking about how
important bees are, because weneed them for our environment,
and so things like pesticidesyou know even the 5G network
they're talking about.
But monocropping you know, lackof biodiversity, things like
this, you know, from anenvironmental perspective, is
impacting the bees' overallhealth, and so not every spring,

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when we open up over winter,we're saying, right, are the
bees healthy?
Right, a lot of beekeepers, andwe work with a lot of
beekeepers in Canada.
You know, over the winter, youknow the bees may not survive.
Why is that?
It's because their immunesystems have been so bombarded
over the spring and summer andfall through those things that I
was mentioning, and so theycan't kind of fight off the roll

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of mite and certain you knowjust different bacterias and
things like that that are alwaysinherent.
It's just it kind of takes over.
So we really want to take alook at that.
When we're looking at you knowwhat we're doing, you know in
our, when we're choosing organic, you know there's things we can
do in terms of planting andthings like that.
I mean, I know that's not partof this conversation, but just
having overall awareness of howimportant they are and how hard

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they work.
So a single honeybee producesone twelfth of a teaspoon of
honey in its lifetime.
So honeybees do not live aslong as the queen bee, or, sorry
, like the drones and workerbees.
So one colony is like a hive,let's say, and so I know you're
with you and you're the queen ofnutrition.
So the queen bee is really theglue that holds the entire

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colony together.
It's fascinating, and she isresponsible for everything that
goes on in the hive.
She leads through herpheromones versus force, if you
know.
If you talk about leadershipstyle, she's just sort of
natural leader and she lays2,000 eggs per day, which is
pretty amazing.
So she's busy.
As a bee she lives three tofive years, whereas the other

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bees there's workers which arefemale, and drones and they only
live about three to five weeksduring the busy season, and over
winter they'll live becausethere's enough food.
During the busy season and overwinter they'll live because
there's enough food.
But they're really busy becausethey're literally flying 55,000
miles to make one pound ofhoney.
They're very, very busy, andthat's just something to really

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think about when you'reappreciating what goes on and
just the intricacies of thehives.
I could go on and on about it,but really it's very interesting
and fascinating to see whatthey do.
And so they do things like makehoney, they make bee pollen,
propolis, all these things, andeven just like, if you've ever
had a chance to look inside thehive, even just the hexagonal
shape of the bees the comb wherethe honey sits in is all done

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by design, like they've thoughtthat through it's maximized
space, and so that hexagon isreally cool.
And then the fact that youcould use that wax that's in
there that holds the honey, forbeeswax, candles or creams or
you know things like that.
Like there's multi-use fromthose benefits that the bees
produce.
And of course I want to mentionthat you always leave enough

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for the bees, right?
It's not harming the bees.
Where you know it's kind ofworking with the bees when you
look after the bees, they lookafter us.

Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you, because
they provide so much for us, youknow at what point is taking
from them too much.
Like you obviously would knowwhat.
Like you know you have to leave, like I don't know.

You have to leave enough for them to
continue to survive right, likethe queen 100%, and it's in our
best interest to do that, and sothat's why, you know, we have
our Bee Friendly Promise, whichis all about supporting
beekeepers, you know, ethical,sustainable beekeepers,
supporting our bees.
You know, using sustainablepackaging, like it's all kind of
that holistic big picture, andwhen you do that, then they give

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back and it works like a circle, right?
So you can do that just like,just like farmers do, just like
your parents did, right, whereyou're working the land, but
there's there's certainrotations and there's things you
can do to ensure that that landdoesn't get eroded, right?
So it's the same with these.

Yeah, I have to ask because I don't know what you
think of this.
Listen, I live in the suburbs.
I don't have a ton of property.
We have a pool which we put inmany, many years ago If it was
today, I would have put a gardenin right was today, I would put

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a garden in right but I haveseen that any way that we can
help would even be to plantwildflowers, not use pesticides,
like what are some of thethings that almost anybody who
has a home can do to supportbees.

I love this question because we have a.
We have a kind of a campaignthat we run every year.
Well, every year this is likeour second year, but we ran one
last year, just because it'sit's just this very thing.
People want to know what theycan do, and so it's.
There's a few things.
So, number one, choosingorganic wherever possible, and
that just feeds the organicfarming practice.

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Right, we don't have 100%organic farms here in Canada,
right, if we did, it would meanthat that's where the consumer
demand was.
So the more what we put intoour cart, we'll tell the
producers what we want, right,and what is needed, so they'll
make more of it.
So, the less pesticides we havein the environment, the better.
But anybody can plant something, whether you have a planter or

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you're working with aconservation area, or you can
just work with someone who doeshave a garden, right, and you
can plant those wildflowers.
So last year we helpedCanadians plant 2 million
wildflower pollinator-friendlygardens and this year we're
hoping to do 10 million.
And so there's certain flowersthat the bees love, so echinacea

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, bergamot, coreopsis there's awhole bunch of wildflowers that
are pollinator friendly, mugwort, even milkweed right, you
remember milkweed?
You go on your, your, yourscience experiment walk, you
know, in elementary school, andthey talk about milkweed.
The bees love that, and so it'sgiving a nod to the weeds.
You know, maybe don't pick allthe weeds out, because some of

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the things that we perceive asweeds are actually beneficial to
pollinators.
And it's the monocropping thatI was mentioning earlier, where
there's just like two things,like it's canola and corn and
cotton, and just like very thoseare the things that are being
monocropped, encouragingbiodiversity, having your own
garden if you can, but if you,if you can't, just get a planter

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and you can get some of thesewildflower seeds and and plant
away and, like I mentioned, workwith your conservation area,
because they actually havespecial planting days on earth
day and even world bee day,which is may 20th, once we get
into the spring.
So so there's things you can do, and it's also just being aware
of that and just giving a nodwhen you do see the bees flying

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around, because wasps are verydifferent than honeybees, so
wasps are not involved inpollination, but honeybees are,
so just keep that in mind.

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of wasps.
I'm just not.
I'm just not.
And it's pretty easy to tellthe difference too, right, like
how would somebody be able totell the difference between a
honeybee and a wasp?
Aren't honeybees a lot smaller,they're fuzzier, they're not
like yeah.

Yes, yeah, so honeybees, when they stay,
they're, they're, they're waspsare yellow jackets, like they're
bright yellow and kind of likethey look angry a little bit,
whereas honeybees are, andthey're longer and brighter,
whereas honeybees are a littlebit kind of more, just a little
lighter in their yellow colorand they're fuzzier.

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And when a honeybee stings you,it dies.
So it's got to have a reason,right, if you're bothering the
bee and honeybee, then it's moreapt to kind of sting you as a
defense.
Right, if you're squishing itor you're step on it or
something like that, they don'twant to, they're busy, they want
to do their work, so get out oftheir way.
But wasps are a little bitdifferent, they just buzz around

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and they can sting you multipletimes.
So just, yeah, that's somethingto be of note to note.

I always look for local raw honey.
Yeah, talk to us about thedifference between pasteurized
and raw honey.

Yeah, that's a really, really great question.
We get this question all thetime.
So pasteurization, first of all, is a process that some
manufacturers will do to improvethe shelf life of the honey.
So you're basically heating thehoney to a point of
pasteurization, and that's over60 degrees Fahrenheit, and so

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it's basically you're boilinghoney so that it could prove the
shelf life.
What do I mean by that?
I mean shelf life is equalscrystallization.
So sometimes raw honey orunpasteurized honey will
crystallize a bit faster thanpasteurized.
So that's just one one notethere.
So there's no real differenceother than a little bit of
crystallization.
It's crystallization bad?

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Definitely not.
It's not at all.
But you can always just put thehoney into a warm fat to
improve the crystals and meltthem a little bit.
Why is that?
You want to have unpasteurizedhoney.
Unpasteurized raw honey ishealthier than pasteurized honey
because it's going to havehigher nutritional value.
So unpasteurized honey isloaded with antioxidants.

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I mean there's so much researchon this.
Sandy Honey is just, it's likea, it's a functional food and
it's got benefits beyond being asweetener and it's got
antioxidants.
You know anti-inflammatoryaspects to it.
I mean they've used honey inwound healing, you know
externally.
So raw honey is basicallyunpasteurized and minimally

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filtered, kind of matching whatcomes right out of the hives,
and so you're going to maximizethat nutritional value versus
pasteurized.
So hopefully that helps alittle bit with describing the
two there.

Yeah, why do some honeys crystallize faster than
others, even though they're bothraw?

yeah, it's a couple things.
Well, one thing is thattemperature.
If you're keeping the honey ina cold temperature room, it is
more likely to crystallizefaster.
Um, just because honeynaturally is is in a warm
environment, I mean actuallyhoney never actually goes back.
They found honey in mummifiedcaves, you know, in egyptian
tombs that is is safe to eat,you know, like all these years

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later so it's.
You know the antibacterialeffects that it has and just the
natural properties help topreserve it, which is absolutely
amazing.
And so types of honey that aregoing to crystallize faster.
It sometimes can be just theratio of glucose and fructose
that's found in honey naturally.
That can sort of offset that.

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But really it's just a matterof the source, the temperature,
where you're keeping it.
If you've opened it already,that kind of thing, then it
might crystallize a little bitfaster.
You can still eat it, you canput it, like I said, in a warm
pot or just pop it in themicrowave real quick.
But those are things you can doto, you know, make it a little

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bit more usable.

I think you just said something that's a good
springboard to the conversationabout glucose.
And yes, here's the thing I'mgoing to say this.
I am also a nutritionist and I'mgoing to say that the internet
and social media there is somuch food fear and when you are

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looking at something that is awhole, real food source versus a
processed, heavily processedsugar, you're looking at two
very different things.
I mean, I come from a placewhere there are people who are
afraid to eat an apple for God'ssakes, and it's time to change

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that narrative.
So it's not to say that honeywill not have an effect on your
blood sugar, but maybe let'stalk about sugar and the
different effects, because wealways have to be cognizant of
the fact that honey might raisea little bit of your blood sugar

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, but it's going to give you somuch more health benefits as
well, because it is that wholefood option to sweeten.
Does that make sense, right?

It totally does , and what you said there really
resonates, because I think,like you, we're both
nutritionists and you get peoplewho are very extreme on their
dietary choices by removing anentire food group or demonizing
certain aspects of certainaspects of a food, and you know
sugar is one of them and youknow protein's another and fat's
another one.
But not all sugar is createdequal, and I'm not saying to

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over-consume sugar, but justbeing aware of those sources,
that some sources are betterthan others and there's
sometimes are beneficial choicesyou can make.
You know when you have thatchoice, and so that's what we're
here for.
I'm not telling people toconsume a whole jar of honey.
It's not going to have animpact on your blood sugar, not
at all, and we want to bemindful.
You know of how much sugarwe're consuming for sure, and

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it's it's quality over quantity,right?
So sugar in general isn't theenemy, so it's over consumption
of processed sugars is, and sothat goal is to replace refined
sugars with more nutrient-densealternatives like raw honey,
even fruits or natural sourcesthat offer benefits like enzymes
and fiber and antioxidants, andwe both know this.
When you pair a sugar withprotein or fiber or healthy fats

(29:26):
, the impact on blood sugar isless dramatic, so it makes it
easier for the body to process,and so just having that
mindfulness about that is very,very important.
Using those whole sweeteners isreally, really good,
prioritizing real, unprocessedfoods and, of course, listening
to your body.
You and I were talking beforethe show started.
You know how much, you know howmuch sugar we should be

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consuming in a day and all thatkind of stuff.
We can get into some of that.
But if we were to kind of, let'sjust say, talk about, let's
just give an example.
So if we were to eat a highwhite sugar processed food, you
know, like a donut or a sugarydrink or something like that,
versus having a little bit ofraw honey, let's just go through
it together.
So, first of all, when you'reeating the white, high processed

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sugar, you're going to have arapid sugar spike, right, you're
going to have a cause sugarspike, right, you're going to
you're going to have a cause of,like bloodstream glucose that's
going to cause a surge ofinsulin to happen.
Then you're going to have anenergy crash because that sugar
lacks fiber, enzymes andnutrients but it's burned
through quickly.
So you're going to have asudden you know drop in blood
sugar and we all know thatfeeling doesn't feel good, and
so when you feel tired,irritable, and then you want

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more sugar, and then also thisleads to inflammation and fat
storage because you're havingmore sugar than you should be
having, and so it causes, youknow, inflammation and it's
stored in the fat and that'sactually one of the causes of
fatty liver.
It's actually not always thealcohol, it's sugar and the fat
cells.
And so, and this causesinflammation in the body, which

(30:52):
we know leads to a whole bunchof things brain fog,
sluggishness, you know,long-term conditions like
metabolic syndrome, right, whichis that increased risk of heart
disease, stroke and type 2diabetes and I'm not trying to
scare, I'm just saying.
And then that gut disruption,so processed sugar feeds harmful
gut bacteria, you know,potentially leading to bloating
and digestive discomfort andincreased sugar cravings.

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So there's some things going onhere with just eating like just
pure sugar, something thatdoesn't have any nutrition to it
at all, versus eating some rawhoney.
You're going to have a gradualenergy increase and so you're
going to have a natural likeusing those natural sugars that
have the enzymes andantioxidants and trace minerals
and slow the absorption ofglucose.

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It's less of an insulin spike,because honey has fructose in
addition to glucose.
The liver processes it moregradually and so that's
something to be aware of.
And then anti-inflammatoryeffects.
Raw honey contains compoundslike polyphenols, as we were
talking about earlier,flavonoids, organic acids, and
reduces oxidative stress, whichcombats inflammation, which is

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so important.
Right, we know inflammation,you can feel it a little bit
when you're in pain andsluggishness and all that kind
of stuff.
And raw honey containsprobiotics as well, prebiotics
which helps enrich that gutbacteria.
So it's kind of like the, notthe opposite.
You're still getting sugar, butyou're having less of an impact
overall on the body.

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And so eating white sugar orrefined sugar is like throwing
gasoline on a fire, whereashaving raw honey is slow burning
, log right.
It's like sustained energy,nutrients and protective
benefits without the metabolicchaos.
So I hope that answers, but Ithink it gives a little bit of a
picture when you're kind ofcomparing the two and the impact

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on the body.

I'm going to throw in a third aspect to this
conversation, only because Icome from.
I come from a place of prettysevere food restriction.
After I had my thyroid out, Iwas like afraid to eat because I
didn't even know my bodyanymore and I do talk about this
a lot.
I went through a period of keto, okay, and in the keto world

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there were all kinds ofnon-caloric sweeteners.
I think it's important to bringthis up.
So what was happening was I hadso much, like I would pull back
from so many different foodgroups when I was eating keto,
and one of them included allsugar.

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So here I was adding in likeerythritol and stevia and all
these things.
And then I'm like, what's goingon with my gut, like I started.
And so then there's other oneslike aspartame, there's
sucralose, there's all of thesenon-caloric sweeteners, and I'm

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gonna tell you right now, if youthink that stevia in a white
powder that's like dust is lessprocessed when it comes from a
green plant, I think you'rekidding yourself.
I'm just going to ask you tothink about it because I'm like,
why am I doing this?
And then I was needing morebecause I felt like I lived very

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restricted in how I ate, Iwasn't getting a lot of joy from
the food that I was eating, andso I was eating more of those
non-caloric sweeteners and itwas causing more distress on my
gut and I certainly didn't needit.
And then I'm like what am Idoing?

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And then I just cut all of thatout and I switched to.
You know there's there's a fewthat I will use.
One of them is raw honey, oneof them is pure maple syrup,
another one is I will use dates,and then the other one that I

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actually like is coconut sugar,because I feel like it's kind of
like almost like a brown sugarwhen it's extracted and made
into crystals.
So those are.
I just wanted to note that I waslooking you're going to laugh
at me, angela, and you know whatI'm going to do is I'm going to

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make my own syrup for my kidswho love to drink from a special
coffee shop, and I'm sure mostof you know, and I think it's a
good time.
Just to mention, therecommended daily amount for
women is six teaspoons.

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That's about 25 grams of sugar,and when I was analyzing it was
a grande of one of thespecialty drinks.
That grande was 52 grams ofsugar in one drink.
That is more than two daysworth of sugar in one drink.

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So people don't even thinkabout it.
So I'm like I'm going to makemy own syrup coffee syrup from
honey.
At least it's a whole foodsource, right?
I would love to hear your takeon just this whole thing.
I feel like we live this sugardrink laden life with kids and

(36:21):
adults the same.

Yeah, I mean, I think our receptors are all
over the place, right.
And so when you're consumingthe artificial sweeteners,
you're almost tricking your body, right?
It's too sweet, right?
When you think of honey versussugar.
Honey tastes sweeter, so you'duse less.
But stevia and xylitol andthese other alcohol kind of

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sugars are 10x sweeter andyou're tricking your body.
It's not even like a human,natural sweetness.
So our receptors go all crazyand it makes us want more sweet.
But if you're having somethingthat's from nature and it's just
in that amount, that is, thatthat's just.
You can consume it and it willhelp your receptors.

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You will naturally kind of havehave your fix and you don't
need it again because you don'thave to crash and your and your
body's not being tricked.
So we shouldn't be trickedeither by some of these
artificial sweeteners thinkingthat we're doing something good.
And you're right, they dodisrupt your gut.
It's it's, it's, it's proven.
Not only that, you know some ofthese artificial sweeteners are
no good for your brain.

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I'm not saying you know, neverto have some Stevia, you know
sodas or you know things likethat if you're having that
instead of, like, you know,sugar-laden one.
But there are things you can doand just having that awareness
and so that chat about with yourdaughter and taking her to you
know, a coffee shop.
We need to teach our youngteenagers and our young adults

(37:48):
about what they're consuming aswell, because I think there's
this sense of a hall pass or I'myoung so it doesn't matter but
we definitely need to teachabout what is feasible.
I mean, maybe 25 grams of sugara day for a woman and 65 for a
man.
I can't remember exactly whatit was we said, but there's

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going to be room, for you know,we don't want to get so strict,
where it's like we're looking ateverything so strictly, but
just creating some awareness,like you said.
Did you know that this drinkthat you're having is double the
amount you should be having inone day?
And you're just having this atbreakfast?
You're going to probably wantto have sugar later on because
you're going to be craving itand what it's doing to your
overall health is not great.

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Right, we want to leave roomfor treats, but is this the kind
of treat you want or can youhave it?
Like you said, can you haveyour cake and eat it too?
Can you still have that treatand get that sweet feeling by
using honey or maple syrup inyour latte instead.
Yes, you can, and it's kind offun right To find alternatives
and there's ways you can do it.
And we're doing somethingactually right now called the

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sugar swap challenge.
It's like it's.
It's so fun because it'ssomething that I've done and you
probably do this too, sandy.
It's something naturally thatyou do.
But it's not very common forpeople to think about replacing
the refined sugars for natural.
It's not even like a consciousthought that it's that you can
do that or look at a recipe andgo I can swap this out for

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something.
So, for example, for every onecup of sugar if you're doing
baking or just relativelyspeaking, it's one half to two
thirds a cup of honey, so you'reusing less and you're lowering
some of the liquids becausehoney is naturally got liquid in
it.
And the same thing with maplesyrup.
It's one cup of sugar equalsthree quarters of a cup of maple
syrup, so you're using less andthere's things you can do.

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You can be empowered now to lookat recipes and try something
different.
It's going to have a little bitof a different taste, but it's
going to be better for you andyou're going to feel better.
You're going to get thatsweetness craving marked checked
because we're human and wecrave sweet, we crave sour, we
crave salty, we crave all of it.
And so giving yourself that andnot restricting it, and knowing

(39:58):
that you're giving somethinggood to your body, that's not
going to be inflammatory, it'snot going to disrupt your gut
and you're not going to havethat energy crash, is like the
reward.
That's what you want to gotowards right, you don't want to
go towards fear and saying youknow, don't have the sugar and
don't have the sweet, because wewant the sweet.

There, I have a new product for you.
You're going to make we'regoing to make with the three
pumps of this and 60 grams ofsugar, and no benefit, no
benefit.
So I think this is the key hereit's more about processing and

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no health benefits, versushaving a little bit in
moderation and all of theseother health benefits.
That's the way I look at it.
So, anyway, something toconsider.

Same here, girl ?
Yeah, I think the same way,because that's sustainable,
right?
Anyone who goes on a crazy dietor changes something, right?
It doesn't last, right?
You even said it yourself it'sjust not sustainable.
And so let's pick the thingsthat we're going to stick with
and keep it going right, and sothat's yeah, that's a great,
great idea.

Mm-hmm.
So let's get into a little bitof the research behind, okay,
and maybe let's categorize it.
So there's propolis.
A lot of people don't know whatpropolis is.
I was actually giving beepropolis to one of my dogs for a
while there for allergies.

Okay, okay.
Interesting, yeah, we have alot of customers who use bee
pollen for their pets andabsolutely loves the impact of
it.
But let's get into propolis.
So first, of all sorry, sorry.

There's a okay Paul .
Okay Bee pollen versus beepropolis.
I had to keep it in the fridge.
I'm trying to think what's thedifference between the two?

Yeah, okay.
So let's talk about propolisfirst.
So propolis is basically madeby bees.
If you ever have a chance to goto a beehive and you look at
some of the dark spots that arein the cracks and it looks kind
of waxy, dark, waxy stuff,that's actually propolis.
Kind of waxy, dark, waxy stuff,that's actually propolis.

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So the bees make propolis fromgums and resins and pine and mix
it with nectar and they use itto seal the cracks of the hive.
They're so intelligent they dothis to basically keep the
inside of the hive pristine.
So the inside of the hive youcan lick the floors Because,
like I said earlier, the queenbee, she's busy man.
She's like laying eggs andmaking babies and they're making
honey in there.

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So it's very clean inside.
And so propolis has 300compounds.
It's naturally antibacterial,antimicrobial, antifungal and
has all these amazing benefits.
That way it's immune supportingand it's used.
I mean amazing benefits.
That way it's immune supportingand it's used.
I mean we use it a lot now,more so, for humans can use it,
and lots of research on propolisFrom a Health Canada

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perspective.
You can use it to soothe sorethroat and mouth infections.
So using a spray or gummies orcapsules or tincture, is really
popular, a way to kind of soothetheir sore throats.
It's also high, just like honey.
By the way, all BHA ingredientsare loaded with antioxidants,
so that's really good.
So propolis is also loaded withantioxidants as well.

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And beyond that, you knowpeople are using propolis for
other things, like oral health,wound healing.
You know well, I was talkingabout immunity as well, and when
we first started actually Ididn't say this earlier, but we
started a website called BeBuzzand it's really popular in
Canada and the US and we wouldjust basically showcase all of

(44:13):
the research that's out thereand we were at the time.
It's not allowed in Canadaanymore, but I'm sure it is in
the US, but we were sellingtoothpaste that had Propolis in
there and the Propolis was ournumber.
Toothpaste was our number oneseller Because think about it
right, it's antibacterial,antifungal.
So you're getting, you know,this natural kind of almost
antiseptic, and so people lovedusing it for toothpaste.

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And you can also use it,obviously internally too, to
help with that as well.
And you know other things.
You know just people are usingPropolis for warts and like HPV
and for candida and other things.
But there's just there's a tonof research on Propolis.
It's just kind of gettingstarted.
Here in North America it was astaple or it is a staple in

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other countries, you know, suchas in Eastern Europe and in Asia
, where it's just a part of themedicine cabinet and recommended
by doctors as as a as amedicine.
And then there's bee pollen.
So bee pollen is another ballof wax, it's another beehive
ingredient powered by bees, andbee pollen is and you've seen it
in action and I'm going to tellyou why.

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So when you go up to in thespringtime and summer, when you
go up to the flower or you know,just you've seen the bees
buzzing and you're just looking.
It's so pretty and you seethese orange sacks on the back
of her hind legs.
By the way, it's the workerbees, the females of the hive,
who are doing all the gatheringof the pollen.
So when they're pollinating theflower and the flower pollen,

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bee pollen is collectednaturally and it's stored on
their hind legs, and so that's acombination of flower pollen
and nectar, and it's orange andbrown and red, depending on the
floral source, and so that's beepollen.
And so bee pollen is reallynature's superfood and
multivitamin, powered by bees,and it can be used you see it in
granules, so you can use it asa superfood.

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It is probably the fastestgrowing beehive ingredient that
we've seen in the last year,because superfoods are really
hot.
But not only that.
They call it superfood superbecause it's packed with
nutrition.
So bee pollen is high.
It's a complete food.
It's got protein, it's gotcarbohydrates and fats, amino
acids, vitamins and minerals inthere as well Polyphen,

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antioxidants, you name it andpeople are using this on in
their granola, on their granola,in their yogurt and smoothies,
eating it on its own.
I grew up with bee pollen, likeI grew up with everything I used
to eat raw propolis and beepollen was the number one thing
that my mom would ask beforeschool, like I could still
remember her getting out on thatfront porch, getting into the,
the bus, having the windowturned down, and she would say

(46:44):
did you have your bee pollen?
I was so embarrassed becauseback in the 80s, right, it was
not really popular to have beepollen, but I swear I never got
sick.
People always complimented meon my skin and it's just a
natural multivitamin loaded withantioxidants.
So a great superfood to add toyour diet and I think people are
catching on to it, and animalsincluded, so maybe that's what

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you gave to your dog one.

Because, yes, yeah, okay, that's okay because it
now that I I'm certainly not ahoney or bee pollen expert, but
I try and keep my dog healthyand I remembered reading about
it and researching that pollen,because it is, it's exactly what
you said the little little likeballs that were yellow.

Yeah, exactly, humans can eat it too, and it's
got a bit of a bittersweet taste.
It can be kind of it's kind ofcrunchy soft, but it's a
superfood.
You don't need a lot of it, soyou can use, start with a couple
granules and work your way upto one to two teaspoons.
I grew up on it and I thoughtI'm fine, and I don't have any
pollen allergies or anythinglike that, so I'm fine with

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having a tablespoon a day.
I had a tablespoon before thisinterview.
So if you're feeling the buzzfrom me, it must be the bee
pollen, and so it's very easy totake and something that you can
kind of add into your smoothieif you're if you're a smoothie
person oh, that's excellent.

So wait a second.

You say good for the skin, because that's
like one of my specialties yeah,you know what anybody who
starts taking bee pollen and mydaughter was taking it too she
started noticing that her skin,the the color would come back
into it.
You know, like in the winter,when your skin's kind of like
dull, if you think about it, ifyou ate a lot of oranges or and
carrots, your skin does kind ofit's.

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It's so you're, you're eatingsomething that is adding those
polyphenols and thoseantioxidants and those
carotenoids to your diet, and sowe know how great those are for
your skin and helping with that, you know, like just overall
appearance of skin.
So I mean we don't have ahealth Canada claim for that,
but there's research showing,you know.

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Just, we just know, from anutrition perspective, when you
load your body with the goodstuff, your skin tells you right
.

So that's what I will say?
Yeah, so what I will say is Ialways encourage people to do
their own research on anything.
We are not making any medicalclaims on this podcast.
We never do.
We just educate.
We're just talking aboutcertain things and then you have

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to go and look up the researchyourself and decide if it makes
sense for you.
I just want to put that littledisclaimer in there, because
it's really important thatpeople know.
Even though I am a wellnesspodcaster, I do not give any
medical advice.
I thought it's a good time toadd that in there.
So let's get into beeswaxwhat's, what's, what is that all

(49:41):
about?
Into beeswax what's what's?
What is that all about?

Yeah, so beeswax, like I mentioned, right
?
So that's that's the the, thewax cappings that are on top of
the honey when inside the hiveand also what holds the honey.
That's beeswax.
And so beeswax is also high inpolyphenols, but it's
antibacterial, antimicrobial.
People are using beeswax in twoways.
They're using it as aningredient for their skincare,

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right so?
Beeswax creams and lip balmsand different tinctures and
things like that for your skin.
And then they're also using itfor beeswax candles, and I love
this, especially this time ofyear.
Being able to light a candle isamazing, but you don't want to
light a candle and have it burnpetroleum into the air or
unnatural fragrance.

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It's going to be negative onyour health.
You want to do something that'sgoing to be positive for your
wellbeing and so lighting anatural beeswax candle is well,
it's naturally heat producing.
It's going to be just natural,clean burning, in that there's
no added not added fragrance toit and it's made from beeswax,
so it actually promotes negativeions in the air, which helps

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with that good feeling, and it'sheat producing as well.
So you can sit beside a nicebeeswax candle and feel nice and
warm and cozy.
And the canadian enzymaticsociety actually recommends
using beeswax candles, becausewe know the impact of the
environment on your breathingand it just what happens.
You know when you're, whenyou're having different
environmental toxins in the air.
You know, just walk by alaundry aisle or you know light

(51:11):
some of those other fragranceladen.
You know petroleum basedcandles and see what happens to
your breathing right, especiallyif someone is asthmatic or
they've got, you know just poorrespiratory health and then yeah
, from that, from there, youknow, using beeswax as a skin
cream is phenomenal.
You know, as part of a base formoisturizing, locking moisture

(51:31):
in antibacterial right.
So using a body butter orsomething like that is just so
great, especially this time ofyear, if you've got those
cracked hands to really kind ofseal that in and keep that
moisture in.
It's just such a naturally usedingredient that you can use in
lots of different ways.
Lips as well, lips and face andbody yeah, I like it.

Now, the other thing to note, just about the
candles.
So there's different componentsof a candle and I actually look
into this a lot because I'm abig feng shui girl.
I like to light up my firecorner for the year and that
sort of thing, so I'm cognizantof what I'm burning.

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And just so that you guys know,any candle that has fragrance,
even if it's essential oils, maynot be right for you, or even
your pets, or right Like.
I just want to note that, likewhen it's a natural candle, with

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what a cotton wick?
No, what is it that they put inwick?
Is it aluminum or is it?
No, what is it?
Lead, lead, lead, yeah.

Yeah, that's right, and yeah, go ahead.

No, I was just going to say like, just think
about it.
Like when you go into one ofthose shops that sells like and
you walk it, I happen to beextremely sensitive to scents
and smells.
I have to be very careful and Iactually I was actually
reviewing my genetics andapparently it relates to my

(53:13):
inability to detoxify them.
So this is very much a personalthing for me.
Not everyone's like that, but Ihave to be careful.
So I just wanted to note that.
Did I explain that correctly,angela?

Yeah, absolutely.
We already know from theEnvironmental Working Group that
fragrance is not especiallyartificial fragrance, but even
essential oils for some mightcause an issue, but I'm talking
the artificial fragrance thatcan really be a concern as a
toxin, right, and so differentlevels.
So you want to be wary of whatyou're putting into your

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environment and your home andwhat you're lighting.
And maybe there's just likesugar versus honey there's other
things you can do that aregoing to give you that same
feeling of self-care and thatpeaceful feeling that lighting a
candle does do, but withoutthose negative effects.
So just just kind of yet beaware of that.
Yeah, so, and the other thingtoo is I forgot to mention royal

(54:11):
jelly.
Did you want to talk aboutroyal jelly?

because that's another ingredient I've almost
yeah, yeah, yeah, this is reallyinteresting too yeah, so
remember I was talking about thequeen bee.

She lives three to five years, even sometimes
six years depending, and theworker bees live less because
they're busy as bees and thedrones.
They live three to five weeksin the busy season, but the
queen bee, what she does is shesolely consumes royal jelly.
So royal jelly is somethingthat is very longevity promoting
.
It's nutrient rich.

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It's actually produced by theglands of worker bees and it is
fed to the queen as well as thebaby bees, so it's kind of like
breast milk, but only for bees,right, If that makes sense.
So it's very nutrient dense.
It's loaded with nutrition aswell.
It's a nutritive tonic and we'veseen just different studies
coming out on royal jelly aswell, all across the board.

(55:03):
But I think too, even justnoting that for menopausal
symptoms and perimenopausalsymptoms women were using.
It was a double-blind,placebo-controlled study that
was conducted in Iran with 200postmenopausal women this is
postmenopause, age 45 to 60, preand post.
I would say this is like acombination and they were using

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1,000 milligrams of royal jellyper day for eight weeks and the
study found that the groupconsuming royal jelly had a
significant reduction in theirperimenopausal, their menopausal
symptoms, including hot flashes, anxiety, back pain compared to
the placebo group.
So that's just something tonote that that's something that
was in the complementarytherapies of clinical practice
study.
That was just a few years ago.

(55:45):
So there's things you can dowith royal jelly, you know.
Just knowing that number oneit's a nutritive tonic health
Canada claim.
It's high in antioxidants,health Canada claim.
But but beyond that, like youmentioned, if you're doing your
own research, there's, there's alot of places you can go with
royal jelly and, depending onwhat you're looking for, it
might be a neat ingredient toadd to your regime For things

(56:07):
like menopause.
There's studies on it forcholesterol lowering.
There's studies on it forhelping improve collagen
production and they've even doneanother recent study that
showed that it improved glucosetolerance, red blood cell
production and even mentalhealth.
So again, do your own research.
We're on the same page there,but it is interesting to see

(56:27):
what research is coming out onthat and keeping in mind that in
some countries, even in theMiddle East, there like this was
done in Iran, this one herethey're using it as a regular
medicine.
So I think we're going to needto catch up a little here in
North America on some of thethings we can say.
When it comes to royal jelly, Iknow it's being used as well
for brain health too, so justcheck it out, you know, because

(56:52):
we need to be in charge of ourown health and what we put into
our bodies, and this might be anoption for you as well.

How do you eat it?
Like do you just like take ateaspoon of royal jelly and it's
like jelly in your mouth.
Like what is it?

Oh, my goodness , I'm glad you asked.
So, truth be told, I have triedroyal jelly on its own.
We have fresh frozen and wehave um, we have the
concentrated powder and we alsohave capsules.
Fresh frozen royal jelly tastesdisgusting.
It is like not tasty at all,like I cannot do it, and so I
will use the capsules myself.
That is where I'm at.

(57:26):
I'm just being honest.
I have not seen someone who'stried real jelly, and I've seen
a lot of people try it who are.
I think it's delicious.
It's not delicious, so you needa very tiny amount, like it
looks like honey, but you justneed a small amount of it.
It's very concentrated, um andso, depending on what form
you're consuming, just be awarethat it's not like having honey.

(57:46):
It might look like honey, butit's not honey.
So I prefer the capsules myself.
And yeah, so there's, butthere's different options.

So maybe plug your nose if you're going to try it.
Yeah yeah, that's always workedfor me, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I get it Totally, totally.

I think we covered a ton of information.
We're almost at an hour, Ibelieve, so I want to make sure
that I give you that we didn'tmiss anything.
Angela.

Yeah, I'm just thinking back to the
conversation, and we covered alot, sandy, we did.
I think there wasn't anythingin particular that's missing.
I mean, I may say a couple ofthings, but just in terms of I
mean, I think just what you'resaying at the beginning, right,
it's just when we are looking atour health and our choices that

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we make, don't underestimatethe power of the small, simple
choice and the impact it canhave on your overall health,
because the small, simplechoices we make are easier and
then they're going to last andthey're going to become a habit.
And so, just being aware ofprocessed sugar in this example

(59:06):
of conversation, and, you know,replacing it with something else
, it may just, over time, bethat thing that continues to
help you on your journey forhealth.
But there's other places.
You're going to see iteverywhere.
You know, once you startlooking for it, it's like is
there something better I can dohere?
You know, when it comes to yourfood choices, right, if you're
going for the chips or you'regoing for the, you know the

(59:27):
things that you know aren'tgoing to be as good.
It's like, maybe I can havesomething else, right, maybe
there's something that can giveme that crunch and give me that
feeling.
You know, veggies and hummus orsomething like that.
Or you know, making sure you'reprioritizing your protein when
you're having a meal from anutrition perspective, but also
being mindful about who yousurround yourself with, right?
It's like it's not just thefood, it's the environment and

(59:49):
the people.
Right, and some of the choicesthat we make and just being
aware of that.
I think it's again like yousaid, it's not about perfection,
it's about being intentionaland just a small choice can have
a big impact and you want to dosomething that's sustainable
and you know this.
This type of thing issustainable.
So my goal really is to educate, inspire people to embrace that

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real functional food and reallyhave your best life right.
And it's not just the nutrition, it's everything from your your
body, mind and soul and, yeah,just just having that awareness.

Sandy Kruse (01:00:25):
Thank you, thank you.
Where can we find you, angela?

Angela Ysseldyk (01:00:30):
Well, we're Dutchman's Goldcom.
We're on Instagram atDutchman's Gold.
We're on Facebook at Dutchman'sGold.
You can find us online atAmazon, canada and the US.
We're in a lot of retailers inCanada and yeah, I mean just to
search it up.
We've really been working onimproving the website since my
dad didn't have a website at all, so we're selling online.

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So we're in quite a fewdifferent places online and in
stores and reach out to me aswell.
I do answer.
You know the DMs and all thaton Instagram or you can email us
as well, and you can find allthat on our website.

Thank you.
Thank you so much, Angela.

Angela Ysseldyk (01:01:07):
Thank you too, sandy.
It's a pleasure and, yeah, Ireally enjoyed our chat today.

Me too.
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