The Healing Power of Chinese Herbs & Hemp: Natural Remedies for Stress, Sleep & More with Dr. Chloe Weber of Radical Roots - Episode 271 - Sandy K Nutrition - Health & Lifestyle Queen

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Today with me I have a returnguest, Chloe Weber of Radical
Roots Herbs.
She's been on my podcast.
I think it was four or fiveyears ago, a long time ago.
Today, we're going to talk allabout Chinese herbs, eastern
medicine.
We're going to talk about hemp.

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I wanted to wish you all a very,very happy Mother's Day.

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I know this comes out the dayafter.
But I've been thinking a lotabout this and I do believe that
moms are really special and weshould honor them.
And I know that many of you whofollow me maybe no longer have
your moms.
I'm fortunate enough to stillhave mine.

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She's going to be 79 this yearand I just I just wanted to
honor all of our mothers.
There's so much that goes on inthe world right now that you
know this is not any kind of apolitical statement or anything
like that.
It's just that you cannot erasewhat a mother does, what a

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mother's presence is, in ahealthy way, obviously, because
I know not everyone has thatexperience either.
No, not everyone has thatexperience either.
But I do feel our moms arespecial and you can't erase that
and you can't call mothersbirthing parents, because it's
nonsensical.

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A mom is a mom and only afemale can give birth, which I
think is a pretty incrediblegift.
So you know that's not meant tobe any kind of political
statement or against anythingelse, it's just saying fact.
So for those of you who arehonoring your moms or who did

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honor your moms yesterday, happyMother's Day.
And now let's cut on through tothis amazing episode with Dr
Chloe Weber, who is also a momand she's an amazing person.
Hi everyone.
Welcome to Sandy K Nutrition,health and Lifestyle Queen.
My special guest today is ChloeWeber.

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Dr Chloe Weber and Chloe'sactually been on my podcast
before.
She was, I think, one of myearliest interviewees my guests
I think from five years ago, andI'll give you another
description of her expertisebecause she's done a lot in the

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last five years.
So Radical Roots, which is stillDr Chloe's brand, was
co-founded by Dr Chloe Weber, amama on a mission to bring the
safest and most effective hempoil to the market.
She first created the Remy'sRevenge formula to help her son,

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who has a rare genetic disordercausing global delays and
catastrophic epilepsy.
As a medical provider, herbnerd, nerd, nerd, nerd and
mother, chloe knew that thecurrent one-size-fits-all
approach to hemp was not themost effective way to work with

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this powerful plant.
Chloe joined forces withco-founder Bart Beckerman and
together they figured out how topotentiate the actions of the
hemp with Chinese herbs andRadical radical roots was born.
So today we're going to talkall about Eastern medicine, hemp

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, chinese herbs and how thisform of medicine can help many.
I am going to preface thisconversation by saying we are
not making medical claims here.
We are simply providing youwith educational information and

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it's up to you to go to yourown provider, your own
practitioner, to see if it'sright for you.
Dr Chloe is a doctor of Chinesemedicine, correct, of Chinese
medicine, correct?
Yep yeah, but I'm not theirdoctor, but you are not the

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doctor for the listeners of thisshow.
So it's really important that Inote this because I don't know.
I've noticed that for somereason on social media, chloe,
it's gotten so weird where I'llpost something and it will
trigger people on social media.
Chloe, it's gotten so weirdwhere I'll post something and it
will trigger people on socialmedia and say, but I'm not doing
this and I think that's wrongfor me and I'm like girl, I'm

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not talking about you, I'm justgiving information to the masses
.
Whoever wants to listen canlisten.
So I think that's a veryimportant way to begin this
discussion and I have to ask youyour background, because it's
been so long since you've beenhere.
Let's talk about how you gotinto this.
I know you have an amazingstory.

Dr. Chloe Weber (08:39):
It's always such a joy to talk to you.
Yes, our last recording was along time ago.
I was at an intensive with myson and I was recording with you
in the bathroom of a hotel andit was a very memorable
experience, but it was a lot offun.
So I'm excited to be back and Ilove talking about herbs, so

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hopefully this will be helpfuland informative for your
listeners.
So I'm a doctor of Chinesemedicine.
I fell in love with Chinesemedicine, particularly the idea
of using Chinese herbal medicinefor public health intervention,
way back 15 years ago when Istarted school for this, and to
me, it is just the most powerful, most dynamic and safest

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medical system in the world.
I really truly believe that andI've absolutely fallen in love
with Chinese medicine,particularly Chinese herbs,
which are something that areused in the States and in the
West, but less so than somethinglike acupuncture, which is a
little bit better known.
So my mission is reallybringing Chinese herbs to more

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people and letting peopleunderstand the safety and
efficacy of it.
And with Radical Roots, as yousaid, I started it because my
son, remy, was diagnosed at twoand a half with a rare genetic
disorder called STXBP1.
And you know, a lot of theseseizure medications have so many
detrimental side effects fordevelopment and since he was

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already so significantly delayed, I wanted to make sure that I
was not only addressing theseizures but supporting his
development as well.
And with all of the incredibleresearch on how effective full
spectrum hemp is to supportepilepsy, you know, I really
knew that adding the Chineseherbs to address the underlying

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patterns of disharmony withinhis body would create dynamic
formulas to really really changethe game for him.
And they've done that for himand for a lot of people.
So I really love those products, I really love what we're doing
with that, and I do really lovethe hemp plant so much, despite
all of the hoops that I have tojump through as a business

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owner with it.

So we're going to get into the differences.
But I first would like to startlike, when I say differences
between hemp and CBD oil, andthen there's THC and you know I
think it gets really confusing.

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And of course there's you know,different, I guess legal
ramifications, depending onwhere you are Like.
For example, I know that CBDand THC it's all legal here,
where I am now, and there'sdispensaries.
But we will get into all ofthat.
But I think it's important tofirst really understand the core

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principles of Chinese medicinebecause, you're right, most
people know just acupuncture butthey don't know a lot about
Chinese medicine.
And I remember doing someresearch and just on tinnitus
and how like Chinese herbs cando so much and what they

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actually do in China for peoplewho have tinnitus.
So tell us what are the coreprinciples of Chinese medicine?

Well, in Chinese medicine we really look
at the body as an ecosystem.
So it's not about one, oneorgan being out of, out of
alignment or one system thatwe're fixing.
It's really how these differentorgans and different elements
are working together.
So we talked about the fiveelements a lot.
So that's wood, fire, earth,metal and water, and so each of

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these five elements correspondsto a different organ system, a
different color, a differenttaste, a different emotion.
So often we can see thatemotions are stuck in the body
in different ways.
So one of my favorites, or oneof the most common you'll see,
is if somebody has chronic lungissues, the lungs are connected
to grief, and so that onemanifests very clearly a lot of

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the time.
So a lot of times when I'mworking with patients and
they're talking about theirchronic lung issues, I'll be
like what happened when thisstarted, you know, like was
there some sort of trauma inyour life, right?
But so again, we're looking atthese five elements and how
they're working together.
They're all supporting eachother in different ways, are all
controlling each other indifferent ways, so it's very

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dynamic.
So we look at the body sort ofas a microcosm of the macrocosm.
So in Chinese medicine we use alot of environmental terms to
describe physiological actionswithin the body.
So, in Chinese medicine, we usea lot of environmental terms to
describe physiological actionswithin the body.
So, instead of hearing likedysbiosis and candida, we're
going to talk about damp heat ordamp cold, right.

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Instead of here, instead of,you know, talking about certain
neurological conditions likeepilepsy, where there's like a
tick or a tremor, we're going totalk about wind invading the
body right, so there could bewind that's going to cause that
tremor.
So you think of a leaftremoring in the wind?
So, while these sound verysimplistic, the way that Chinese

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medicine is addressing it isactually very complex and very
nuanced, and it's just blows meaway time and time again to see
the safety and efficacy of it.
But fundamentally, what we'relooking to find out in your body
is what is going on underneath.
So, a lot of times, somebodywill come in with a presenting
symptom.

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Right, you're going to a doctor, you want to get something
fixed, right, so you've gotheadaches.
Let's say, instead of justsaying you have a headache,
here's my formula for headaches,here are the herbs that are
going to stop your headachewe're going to find out where
that headache is coming from.
So say your headaches in thefront of your head and happens
after you eat, that could beassociated with a stomach

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channel right.
Or say the headache is comingalong with stress, then that's
most likely indicated that it'scoming from the liver cheese
stagnation.
So your liver is deeplyconnected to stress and impacted
by stress.
It's also very connected to awoman's monthly cycle.
If you have a dull headache orit's more in the back of your

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head, that might indicate thatit's a deficiency headache.
So you might be run down, youmight be burning the candle at
both ends and you might bedehydrated or not have enough
electrolytes.
So instead of just givingsomebody sort of the answer to
heal the branch you know thesymptoms that are coming we
really do try and get to theunderlying patterns of

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disharmony so that we're able tosupport the symptoms that are
manifesting but build healthover time by restoring
homeostasis to the body.
Hopefully that made some sense.
It's very challengingexplaining Chinese medicine to
lay people.

Okay, do you know who?
There's a lot of them, drBradley Nelson, there's a lot of
them, dr Bradley Nelson.
There's Yvette Rose, there'sDolores Cannon.
There's like there's so many ofthese practitioners, doctors,

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whatever you want to call them,that connect the emotion to the
ailment, so.
But Chinese medicine has a verystructured way of looking at
that which I find superfascinating.
So, for example, if you're awoman going through menopause,
you probably have issues withstress, and so you may have

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those headaches like the back ofthe neck which I get, I get
that I get migraines at the backof the neck, which I get, I get
that I get migraines at theback of the neck.
And then you know how because Iknow I have a lot of women
listeners who are aroundmenopausal age you still would
treat them all differently,correct, like it's not, like

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there's a one formula for allmenopausal women, because they
could have different symptoms,right?

Totally so.
Ideally, the gold standard inChinese medicine is that you get
a customizable formula from apractitioner who's working with
you, and so in our system wealways look at it as sort of
like beginner's mind.
So every time I see you you'rea different person, right?
Because you're coming in withwhat you're, what's going on in
your body today.
So even if I saw you a week ago, there are going to be shifts

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in your health and your wellbeing since that week.
So I want to look at you sortof with those fresh eyes, those
beginner's mind.
But we do have some overlappingsimilarities.
So for me, like I'm trying tomake Chinese herbs more
accessible, so I've created somepatent formulas, which patent
formulas are used in China atremendous amount.

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But so, like when it comes tomenopause, fundamentally what
you're seeing in Chinesemedicine is you're seeing the
decline of the kidney qi andparticularly kidney yin.
So most people have heard ofyin and yang, right, or yin and
yang, however you want to say it.
But so the yin is the femaleaspect of the body, it's the

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fluids, it's the nourishingaspects of the body.
The yang is, like the fire, theactive aspects of the body.
So the yin is sort of the shadyside of the mountain, whereas
the yang is the sunny side ofthe mountain.
And so the kidneys are incharge of our vital energy that
we're born with, and they'realso deeply connected to our

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reproductive health and ourreproductive energy.
So starting at 35, we see adecline in kidney chi, but
particularly that kidney yin.
So as kidney yin declines wesee more dryness symptoms, we
see more heat symptoms.
That yang is not checked bythat coolness, so the yang is
flaring up and causing heat.

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The yin is not nourishing ourhair, our skin, our different
aspects of our body.
And so for most women you'regoing to want at least some sort
of kidney tonic that is goingto support the kidney qi and
particularly support the kidneyyin.
A lot of women also then willsee, as you said, sort of more
anxiety that's tying into theheart.

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So a cool thing about menopauseand Chinese medicine is we look
at it as it's a time and wecall it the second spring, and
it's a time when the energy thatwe have put into reproduction,
all of our kidney chi, all ofthat energy that we put towards
being able to reproduce, flipsand comes into our heart.

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So in Chinese medicine we lookat it as a time for women to
finally stop putting theirenergy into everybody else, put
it into themselves and also beable to share more truthfully
who they are.
So it's just a fun little shiftin perspective than how we look
at it here in the West.
But yeah, so most you know.

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So there are patterns that thatare pervasive throughout, you
know, society you know like sowomen in menopause and
perimenopause, want kidneysupport, but again, that kidney
support might need more livercheese stagnation support, so
you might be more stressed andirritable and having more
emotional fluctuations, sothat's more liver.

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If you're having more heartpalpitations, night sweats,
anxiety, more like generalizedanxiety, we're looking at that
more as the heart, which is likethe spirit, and then some women
are gaining more weight andcarrying more of that dampness.
So then we want to support thespleen in Chinese medicine.

So Wow, it's very complicated but at the same time
it makes a lot of sense to me.
Now, on top of, you know, beingable to assess patients that
come in, then you have actuallike acupuncture that you might

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use and that just kind of helpsrebalance those meridians.
I don't know if I said it right.

Yeah, so we have 12 different meridians
going throughout the body and sobasically in Chinese medicine
we're looking for the free flowof qi and blood throughout the
body.
So where there's stagnation A,you're often going to see pain.
So in Chinese medicine we oftenwant a warm stagnation.
So we can use something calledmoxibustion, which is a warming

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herb that we burn on top ofacupuncture points it's pretty
cool.
Or you can use sort of awarming topical or heat lights.
We're really looking to makesure that everything is flowing
correctly through the body onlike a fundamental basis, and by
putting the acupuncture needlesin different acupuncture points

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it's really just a reminder tothe body of what it already
knows, what it's supposed to bedoing, because our body just
already has so much innateintelligence.
But then we pile on all of thetoxic crap emotional and
physical that we're dealing withday to day and our body sort of
gets out of alignment.
So what the acupuncture needlesare doing fundamentally is just

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really reminding the body whereto bring some attention, where
to bring some energy and on abasic, you know, physiological
perspective, we're bringingwhite blood cells and repair
mechanisms to that area, becausewe're putting a needle into
whatever area we're putting itinto.
But yeah, acupuncture isphenomenal.
I've seen it change so manylives.

I will say just from experience I think it's
very, very important to choosean acupuncturist that you trust
when they have access to yourmeridians and your energy flow,
Because I'm not going to getinto the personal side of this,
but I have seen acupuncturistsnot do the greatest work on

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patients to make sure that theykeep coming back and spending
money with them, and so it'slike creating that whole need,
like you need me, and so and Isay that actually I say that,
Chloe, with anybody who hasaccess to your really your
energy, like the goal this goesfor, like Reiki practitioners or

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anything like that.
This is just totally mypersonal opinion here, but I
feel that people need to be moreaware and cognizant of how that
practitioner makes you feel.
I just wanted to add that inthere, because I have seen some

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shady shit, my friend, and withsome practitioners and I'm like
you know what, you have to usesome discernment personally.
What are your thoughts on that?

I think any practitioner you go to who has a
sort of pay to play model, youknow like it's in terms of like
even functional medicine a lotof functional medicine doctors
will have you just keep comingback and back and back.
I have a friend who's payingthousands of dollars for
functional medicine stuff andshe needs it, but like they're

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retesting whether she has leakygut every like month or two and
I'm like whether she has leakygut every like month or two and
I'm like she clearly has leakygut.
Like there's no like do not runthis test.
This is absurd.
You know it's like there are alot of people who are looking to
make money and are trying tosurvive.
You know like the healthcareindustry is not immune from the

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ramifications of what's going onin society right now.
And what I always say aboutacupuncturists is like a lot of
them are really bad businesspeople and so they're stuck in
sort of a fear-minded mentality,because nobody who gets into
acupuncture gets intoacupuncture to make money.
We get into acupuncture becausewe're in love with the medicine

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, we want to help people, butthen when you get out in order
to practice, you have to be ableto successfully run a business
and unfortunately, some peoplejust really don't know how to do
that well and do thatauthentically and be able to
show up with the level ofintegrity that I know, you and I
find so very essential.
And also, you know, even in thehealing arts there is a lot of

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ego that can go into that.
Also, I've seen a lot ofpractitioners, whether they're
acupuncturists or others, who dosort of fall into that line of
feeling like, oh, I'm thismaster healer and I can heal you
with my hands, and you know itgets a little creepy and weird.
So I agree completely A youknow, when it comes to

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practitioners of Chinesemedicine, we all practice very
differently.
This is a medicine that hasevolved for thousands of years,
so the way that I practice isvery different than the way
anybody else practices.
I personally focus on Chineseherbs and custom herbal formulas
.
I'm more of an internalmedicine doctor, right?
A lot of people are great atsports medicine and really

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phenomenal at that, want to lookaround and find a practitioner
that works with you and never,ever, ever stay with any doctor,
no matter what, if they do notpass your gut check.
And that's something that Ireally also stress for for moms
working with practitioners, withour kiddos as well, because I
feel like we often get gaslit aswomen about our health and

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about the health of our childrenand like if there's nothing
that anybody else takes fromthis podcast, please take.
Hear me when I say always trustyour gut when it comes to your
health and your child's healthand find a doctor that will
listen to you, no matter what.
Like do not give up on that.
Do not take no for an answer.

Yeah, thank you for that, because we're seeing.
One thing I actually reallylove, chloe, is that more and
more people are spotting that,spotting that, and so I for sure
this.
After I had my thyroid out, Iwas at this one place and I was

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doing some pretty cool stuff,for back then Nobody was doing
this stuff.
I was doing the IV therapiesand we're talking this would
have been about 14 years ago andhere where I am, nobody was
doing that and I was with agreat functional medicine doctor
.
But then, exactly to what yousaid, then, all of a sudden, all

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these really expensive tests.
I'm like, hold on a minute, Idon't have millions of dollars
here, people, is this testreally necessary?
And then something in my gutjust said you know what?
You've gotten everything thatyou needed to progress to the
next stage of your wellness.
So now you can, you know, stopseeing this person and I was

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okay to move on.
But you know, I think it's veryimportant to use that
discernment and that gut feelwhen something doesn't feel
right.
But I have to ask you this, andbecause we kind of went off on
a tangent here, which is okay,but in Chinese medicine they
always want to see your tongue.
Why?
Why is that?

So the tongue is a really easy representation
of what's going on internallyfor you.
So the tongue tells us a lotabout your health.
So anybody who's listening, Ihighly recommend that you just
Google Chinese medicine tonguediagnosis.
Pull up one of the charts.

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So what we're looking for isthe color of your tongue.
Is your tongue really pale?
Is it purple?
That would indicate stagnation,dark.
What's the coating on thetongue?
Is it clear?
Is there a coating?
Is it thick?
Is it yellow?
Is it black?
Not ideal, I've seen that onebefore.
That is definitely somethingyou want to go to a practitioner

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for.
But like, if you're sick like,say, you have a cold or a flu,
right, but like, if you're sick,like, say, you have a cold or a

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flu, right, if you have a sorethroat, or like really dry heat,
phlegm, you might see that youhave a yellow tip of your tongue
.
It's going to be a little bitred.
That indicates anxiety, heartheat.
You might have, uh, some heartpalpitations at nighttime.
Um, again, sort of night sweatspotentially, but really more
just sort of indicating thatgeneralized anxiety.
Another one that's super commonis the teeth marks on the side

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of your tongue.

Yeah, so that's lean chi deficiency, so that's
spleen-chi deficiency.

So that's overthinking, over worrying.
You might have some loosestools or digestive disharmony,
penchant for allergies or foodallergies, sometimes foggy
headed thinking.
Spleen-chi deficiency is supercommon in our society.
For me, I've got a crack downthe middle of my tongue that
often indicates, like foodallergies again, some sort of

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stomach disharmony.
So it's pretty easy to actuallyget a big grasp on diagnosing
your own tongue and looking atit.
But it is pretty fun and it iswildly effective, like it is
very, very, very accurate.

Yeah, so I was going to ask cause everyone
always asks this.
I know not everything has tohave a research, but is there
research backed up on, like,what's going on with your tongue
and ailments in Chinesemedicine?
You?

know.
To be honest, I've literallynever looked into it whatsoever.
I would imagine that there is.

I mean, there's all sorts of studies into it
whatsoever.
I would imagine that there is.

I mean there's all sorts of studies on Chinese
medicine, so I would imaginethere is.
I always, whenever I'm nerdingout on Chinese medicine I'm
always looking at the herbsbecause it's so much fun because
you can look at the Westernpharmacological actions of the
herbs and the Eastern energeticactions.
So it's fun to be able tovalidate people's western minds
with the research aspects.

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I've never looked up researchfor tongue diagnosis but I'll
check it out after this.

I'm curious, I know , and I know I always have those
stupid teeth marks.

So like, okay, overthinker yeah, that's why you
have a podcast.
I mean mean you're you'retrying to process all the
information that's coming at youbecause you have a.
Your brain is very curious.
It makes sense, girl myselfdown so I gotta be calm.

So okay, how does hemp fit into all of this?
Because to me I'm like okay,chinese herbs, there's tons of

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different ones, and but thenthere's hemp.
Like hemp is not a traditionalum, or well it's, I guess it is
a plant extract, right,technically am I right, but it's
not typically chinese but it'snot typically chinese, it is,
yeah, oh, I didn't know that Iknow it's pretty cool.

Yeah, no, in ancient china.
So they used hemp and marijuana.
So they even had differentclassifications for hemp and
marijuana in terms of how theywere using it medicinally.
So hemp is, you know, hempregulates the endocannabinoid
system, and the endocannabinoidsystem is a master regulatory

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system of the body.
So I'm always talking about themiddle way, which is an
important tenant in chinesemedicine.
Right, we don't want to go toofar this way, too far that way.
It's like balance.
Right, we want to find themiddle way, and in our society,
we're very, very bad at thatwhen it comes to health or when
it comes to politics, or when itcomes to pretty much anything.
So I'm constantly remindingpeople that there's a middle way

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.
But so the endocannabinoidsystem is basically trying to
find the middle way, theGoldilocks zone for our entire
body and nervous system, all thetime.
It's incredibly important forour immune system, for our brain
health, for inflammatorydisorders.
It is just.
There is no aspect of the bodythat the endocannabinoid system

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does not impact.
I just did a whole webinar onCBD and its impact on women's
health.
It's wild.
So it's like one of thosethings where, like anytime I
want to go down a rabbit holewith, like any sort of aspect of
how CBD impacts the body.
There's like a ton of researchon it.
But so hemp in Chinese medicineis a liver tonic, so again it's

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supporting stress andregulating the liver,
alleviating stagnation.
It's nourishing, so it'snourishing the kidneys and the
yin of the body again, and thenit's also calming the heart, the
spirit.
So in Chinese medicine Ialluded to this before, but the
heart is what we refer to as theshen and the shen is the spirit

(34:05):
.
So hemp has been traditionallyused in formulas for thousands
of years.
In Chinese medicine actually andI haven't gotten into it yet
but with Chinese herbs what wedo is we use different herbs
together to create dynamicformulas.
So it's very rare that you seea single herb alone being used
in our system.

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So, like in Western herbologyor Western medicine, again, you
have one ailment, you get anherb, you get a prescription.
In Chinese medicine we look atwhat's going on with you and we
create these dynamic formulasthat have multiple herbs in it
to address again the symptomsand balancing those underlying
disharmonies that are going on.

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So hemp is really amazing atpotentiating the effectiveness
of these shiny circle formulas.
It's really quite dynamic andsupportive okay, so hemp it.

Okay.
Hemp doesn't make you high, no,so they're.

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They're from different parts ofthe plant, aren't they like?
Hemp is not.
Hemp is still part of the, themarijuana plant isn't it.

It's part of the marijuana family, so it's
like I never get this rightbecause I haven't looked at it,
but it's like the genius and thespeed.
So it's basically like hemp ismarijuana, with the thc bred out
and bred for the CBD and othercannabinoids that are in it, got
it.
So marijuana is bred for higherTHC counts and so the THC is

(35:50):
what's going to have thepsychotropic effects.
With hemp, you're allowed tohave 0.3% of THC in your hemp
products and so really, whenpeople are looking for a high
quality hemp product I'm sure alot of your listeners are in
Canada, so it's very hard.
You can't ship to Canada.
So when you're looking for aCBD product in Canada, since you

(36:11):
can't just get mine, probablyyou want to find something that
is full spectrum.
So a full spectrum product isgoing to have 0.3% THC in there
and that 0.3% THC is going topotentiate the actions of the
CBD very dramatically.
So there's a ton of research onhow much more effective full

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spectrum hemp is than isolates.
So a lot of people are usingisolates in their products.
So if you're getting somethingthat's like a gummy or drink
that has CBD in it, that'sreally just an isolate, most
likely.
And if you see a CBD productthat has really high CBD counts
like 2000 milligrams of CBD butit's still pretty cheap, and

(36:56):
you're like, wow, I'm getting agreat deal Probably nonsense,
even if it says full spectrum inthere.
A lot of companies are thenputting a little bit of full
spectrum and then dumping abunch of cheap isolates in there
, and so the problem with theisolates is that a they're less
effective, they have many moreside effects and they also
interact with pharmaceuticalsmuch more.

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So if you have a full spectrumhemp, it's much less likely to
have any sort of interactionswith pharmaceuticals, and so I
really am a big proponent ofgetting that full spectrum hemp,
because there's a lot of reallycrappy products on the market.

Yes, that I will say, especially since you know
everything became legalized here.
I mean, I know a lot of peoplewho listen to my podcast are
from the US, so US laws are, bystate, correct.
Yeah, so you'll have to checkinto what's legal wherever you

(37:56):
are, but here in Canada it'sextremely confusing in terms of
you know, knowing what to lookfor.
So, like you said, they mightsay full spectrum on there, but
then, in addition, they'redumping a bunch of isolates on
top, so the full spectrum partis only going to be this much

(38:21):
and the isolates are going to bethis much, and so it's not
going to be as effective.
But for what?
Why?
I know why.
You created a formula for yourson of the hemp formula.
That's Remy's revenge right ofthe hemp formula.

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That's Remy's revenge, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So, um, and and in terms ofsafety for children, um, what do
they say about hemp for forchildren?

Um, I mean, the hemp profile safety profile is
incredibly high.
I I would feel very comfortableusing it even if I was pregnant
.
I'm not recommending that toanybody, there's no safety
studies on that but, like for me, if I was pregnant I would
continue taking my my productsfor sure.
Um, because I feel like the waythat hemp is able to support

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our bodies and our brainsdynamically, support our
hormones, support our digestivehealth I mean it's just, it's
such a dynamic and safe plant.
I see no reason why itshouldn't be used.
Obviously, there's no researchon that and you know.

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You know how it works.
Now that CBD went through such aboom, there are some big pharma
companies that are creatingproducts that are made off of
CBD and so now it's makes.
Most of the research is aroundthose pharmaceutical products
and they're squashing all of theresearch on full spectrum hemp,
which is extremely expensive todo, and most of the companies
like mine do not have the moneyto do research like that.

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But yeah, I think the safetyprofile is incredible.
If you're working with kids,it's not the first herbal
product that I would jump to,but if you have a child who is
dealing with any sort ofneurodevelopmental disorder I've
seen it have incrediblydramatic effects very quickly,

(40:18):
whether it's epilepsy or autismor ADHD or Tourette's.
Hemp can be really, reallysupportive for those kiddos.

So for that's good to know.
Now for, oh sorry, go ahead.

No, no, no.
I was just going to add,especially when you compare it
to the pharmaceuticals, thatwould be the alternative.
So again you know, like withherbs it's one thing you can try
them on these products and seehow they do.
You're not gonna have a problemgetting these kids off of these
products.
A lot of the epilepsy drugs, alot of the seizure drugs, a lot
of the ADHD drugs, these drugsare fairly addictive to the

(40:59):
brain, so weaning off of thesemedications can be really
difficult.
So to me I always am like startwith herbs, try it, see how the
kid does, as long as thedoctors are okay with it, and
then if it's not getting to thesupport that you need, then you
can try the farms.
But there's no reason not totry the herbs first if you're

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not in, you know, a criticalcondition or situation.

So what is?
What are some otherapplications for full spectrum
hemp and you kind of use so CBD?
Is the what the, the componentof the hemp, like, how come like
?
Can you use those wordsinterchangeably?

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Are they two still twodifferent things?

so the reason why I always talk about full
spectrum hemp is because, since,uh, there's a pharmaceutical
product called Epidiolex, whichis a seizure medication based
off of CBD, we can no longer useCBD in any of our marketing, so
I've just been so conditionedin order to say full spectrum

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hemp.
But so in hemp, there areapproximately 113 different
cannabinoids, right, so CBD andTHC are two of the most are the
most commonly studiedcannabinoids, right?
So CBD and THC are two of themost are the most commonly
studied cannabinoids and themost prominent cannabinoids that
are found in hemp and marijuana, right, but so there are 113
different ones.

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In there, cbd is the one thatis most potentiated for.
So, like in my products, mostof my products have either 500
milligrams of CBD or 750milligrams of CBD in the bottle,
right?
But there are other minorcannabinoids in there, so
there's trace amounts of CBG andCBN and CBC.

So so yeah, so it is pretty interchangeable for
the most part.
Ok, so here here's the thing.
And it gets so confusing, Chloe, because here in Canada they
have dispensaries, so I might gointo a dispensary to look for
something that helps with sleepand stress.

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Okay, and it gets socomplicated.
First of all, I'm not a big fanof THC personally.
I mean, I smoked enough weed inuniversity and it was very
different back then in the 90s.

It was much milder back in the day.
It was really different.

Anyway, I do not like THC personally, not that
everybody really gives a shitwhat I'm saying here, but it's
just.
It's just my opinion for me.
But what I do like is to lookfor something that helps me with
that heightened brain activitythat I have, and I think that

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this goes hand in hand withmenopause with a lot of women.
But also it's part of mypersonality, it's part of who I
am.
Where I have trouble kind ofshutting down, so I walk into a
dispensary for something thatjust kind of helps me at night,
just to kind of be a little morechill, like I don't need to

(44:24):
always be on.
And then I walk in and I'm like, okay, cbd, cbg, oh, you gotta
try cbg.
And I'm like, well, like I'mjust so confused and then
they'll be like there's thc here, but it's not gonna make you
high, don't worry.
I'm like, but I honestly I getso confused that I actually walk

(44:46):
out just like going, no, I'mnot doing anything.
I can't afford to have asleepless night, so I don't like
to take risks and I can'tafford to feel anxious either,
which is what I find happenswith THC like that anxiousness.
So for somebody in general Iknow you mentioned full spectrum

(45:08):
what else will I look for tohelp even with you?
Know we're talking about spleenchi deficiency and we're
talking.
What do I look for?

So well, that's .
I mean.
That's why I started RadicalRoots, because I was like, okay,
we can use these chinese herbsto direct the hemp to do the
things that we want it to do, asopposed to just being like
here's this one size fits allwhen nothing's really one size
fits all right.
So like for you.
I mean, you're a classic restand relax gal um, in terms of

(45:41):
what we have to offer, which isa shen tonic, it's calming the
heart, it's great for sleep,it's got full spectrum CBD.
What I want to do is I mightmake a variation of that with
CBN in it, which CBN is greatfor sleep.
So that's one of those othercannabinoids that's really
phenomenal for helping calm themind and helping you get deep

(46:01):
sleep.
I haven't made it yet, but ifpeople are interested I might
just do it.
I know my sleep has been wonky,but the rest and relax is a
game changer for a lot of peoplewith sleep.
These other cannabinoids arecoming out and they are very
interesting.
The research is pretty cool.
Cbn and CBG are the two mainones that I've studied.

(46:25):
Again.
Cbn if you find a productparticularly for sleep, you know
they have sleep gummies thathave CBD and CBN and those can
be really effective.
Cbg is very interesting to mebecause it activates the CB1
receptors in the brain.
So it activates theendocannabinoid receptors that

(46:48):
THC activates, but it doesn'tactually have the psychotropic
effects.
So CBG, I really enjoy theeffects of that.
For me I probably have ADD,judging by the fact that I own
three businesses.
So CBG is really nice on mybrain.
I enjoy that one.
But really as long as you'regetting a high quality CBD

(47:12):
you're in good shape.
The other ones are still sort ofemerging.
They're worth playing aroundwith.
One thing that's good to noteis that CBD does compete for
some of the same receptors asTHC.
So if somebody is stoned, ishaving sort of like what's the

(47:32):
term I'm looking for?
If somebody's sort of overdosedon THC, if somebody's gotten
uncomfortably high, giving thema high dose of CBD will help
mitigate those effects and sortof bump some of that THC off of
the receptors.
So when you're getting thosegummies or tinctures that have a
little bit of THC but have someother cannabinoids in there,

(47:55):
those are going to be helpful inmitigating the psychotropic
effects of the THC.
But again, I always encouragecaution when it comes to gummies
, because I have been a fairlylifelong cannabis user, at
varying extents, varying timesin my life, and even like a
quarter of one of those 10milligram gummies is more than

(48:18):
enough for me.
So you know, just always usecaution.
Some of them are great and someof them can be really fantastic
for sleep, and I think that THCcan be really really effective
and really necessary for certainconditions.
So if you're dealing with likeepilepsy, you want, you
definitely want to make surethat there's a little bit of THC
and you might want a littlemore THC than what I can put in

(48:39):
my products.
If you have, you know, ms, moresignificant neurological issues
or really severe pain, you knowincreasing the THC can be
really really powerful for that.
And then doing that incombination with the CBD again
reduces those psychotropiceffects but bumps up the

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efficacy for some of theseconditions.
But bumps up the efficacy forsome of these conditions.

Okay, that answers the question why you always see,
you know you walk in andthey'll be like okay, here's a
perfect formula for, say,arthritis, and I've actually
tried it for my dad.
But my, you know, he's going tobe 88.
He's like I don't want to feelloopy, I don't want to feel off,

(49:25):
I just wanted to help with thepain.
I think he's like the pain ispretty major, so he still hasn't
found a formula that willactually help and he's not
interested in taking a formulathat has more of the THC.
So it's kind of like well, youcan't, you can only do so much

(49:48):
if you don't want to increasesomething else.
Is that right?
Like what you were saying?

Yeah, it depends on like condition.
So, like you know, and that'swhy we add the herbs to ours.
So you're getting the benefitsof like proper chinese herbs
which are singularly effectiveon their own um, and then,
combined to make them aseffective as possible, then the
added benefit of the fullspectrum hemp um.

(50:16):
But yeah, there are certainconditions in which it's like
okay.
So if you have pain, I don'twant to be on an opioid but the
CBD might not be touching it.
So what I would do in thosecircumstances I recommend that
people consider, or talk totheir doctor, do whatever you
know, blah, blah, blah a littlebit of additional THC to those

(50:48):
tinctures or to those topicals,just to make them a little bit
stronger, so that they'regetting a little bit higher of a
THC, but still making it sothat it's not having the
psychotropic effects or reallymitigating the psychotropic
effects as much as possible.
I would really I've wanted to,for, while trying to find a
cannabis company, that I couldmake formulas, versions of my
formulas, with a little bit ofTHC in them and making them

(51:11):
titratable so that people can dothat.
But it just hasn't gotten tothe top of my to-do list yet.
But I do think for certainconditions it's really, really
beneficial to have a little bitextra of that THC.

Yeah, I've used Topical.
It's formulas that have CBD andTHC and then they have whatever
menthol stuff or whatever forcertain issues issues like I had

(51:45):
a wrist issue and I find themto be quite effective topically,
but not all of them are createdequal either.

Yeah, well, again, it's.
You know, people use a lot ofpeople are in the supplement
industry in order to make aquick buck.
And you know, I think I know alot of chinese or companies.
Again, people who are inchinese medicine don't get into
chinese medicine typically tomake money.

(52:16):
Um, there are some people whoare, you know, scam artists, I'm
sure, or just not living intheir authenticity.
But most of the herb companiesthat I know are, you know,
really phenomenal herbalists whohave come up with products, who
are really passionate aboutgetting these herbs to more
people.
Our topical.
I'm always blown away.
I'm very fortunate that I don'tdeal with much chronic pain yet

(52:38):
.
I'm sure I will, but that's notone of my current things that
I'm always dealing with, and soI'm always blown away whenever I
sell out of the topical.
The amount of messages that Iget from people like absolutely
losing their mind that thetopical is out of stock, and I'm
like, oh, okay, I will makesure this does not happen again.
I'm so sorry, but in my mindit's like it's not that, you

(53:02):
know, it's like it's not myfocus formula, because it's not
something that I use all thetime, but it's, it's, definitely
it's.
It's like our second bestseller.
Everybody loves it because,like people don't realize, you
know your skin, like absorbseverything.

I'm very careful about what I put on my skin.
You know what I put, and evenfragrance, you know.
It's just so funny when I seepeople, or I hear people on
there, like with their perfume,and listen, I like to smell good
too.
So if I'm going out, if I'm,you know, going out and I want

(53:54):
to put a little bit of perfume,listen, I know I'm still going
to smell it.
So I know there's the whole,that whole part of fragrance,
but I'm not going to put it onmy skin, I'll maybe put it on my
shirt and then, yes, I know I'mstill getting a little bit of
it because I am breathing it in,but it's not penetrating
through my skin along with allthe alcohol and the chemicals

(54:17):
and all the other stuff that isin perfume and cologne.
I think people just don'trealize how, how important our
skin is for absorption, forwhatever it is that we put on it
.
Oh, it's terrifying.

It's like I know you probably feel the same
way where it's like the more youlearn, the more overwhelming it
all gets.
I, um, I recently went on amicroplastics deep dive and now
I'm throwing away all of myleggings and switching to all
organic cotton underwear, brasand everything.
And then when I was doing thedeep dive, I did like a

(54:54):
masterclass on it for, like mygroup in school, and I didn't
realize that over 50% of themicroplastics that are getting
into our bodies is inhaledmicroplastics.
So that's just from like carsdriving down the road, or from
us drying synthetic materials inour in our dryers, in our
washers and dryers, and thenthat's pumping out microplastics

(55:15):
into the air within our homesand then we're breathing that in
.
When we breathe it in throughour nose, it crosses the blood
brain barrier, gets straight toour brains.
So it's it's a wild world outthere in terms of the toxins
that we're putting on our skinand and exposed to every day.
I mean it's one of those thingswhere it's like unless we know

(55:38):
about it, we can't mitigate it,we can't detox it.
But it's also a slippery slopeto go down as well.

I know and and we're not, you know, anybody
who's listening we're not tryingto fear monger or anything, but
I think everybody just needs todo what they can to you know,
within their capacity.
And if everybody does a littlebit, then it will help on a
larger scale.
If you actually think about it,and that's the key.

(56:08):
If you think about it and dowhat you can to you know, like
you said, just change a fewthings.
Watch what you're putting onyour body, watch what you're
putting on your skin, make surethat you're detoxing, make sure
that you're moving, make surethat you're sweating, and all
those things.
That's all going to help.
So I want to see if, like, didwe?

(56:31):
Did we talk about everything?
We?
We kind of covered a lot inthis almost one hour.
Anything that maybe we didn'tcover off, that you want to make
sure you talk about, please, wedidn't cover off that you want
to make sure you talk about,please, by all means.

Fundamentally, with Chinese medicine, what we
are looking to do is to help youbuild health so that you're not
responding to disease withpharmaceuticals, and so that is
what I really want to helpempower people to understand
that they have the capacity todo.
And, as we were saying, when itcomes to microplastics and all

(57:10):
of these different toxins, it'sreally about the small steps in
the direction of health.
It's making these small changes,day by day, these decisions
that add up and build health,instead of slowly falling down
the rabbit hole of disease by,you know, making these up,
making the other, taking theother path, you know, and
instead of going hyper fixatedon healing, I do also want to

(57:33):
encourage everybody to to lookinto the middle way, and you
know it's like for me.
I know everything in my housethat I cook is organic regener
psycho mom status for me and mykid.
That being said, remy eatsbubbles all day, every day.
That kid is bubble maniac tothe face right, and if I go out

(57:55):
to get tacos, I'm going to eatthe pork belly tacos with the
likely GMO corn tortillas, andI'm going to drink a margarita,
it is what it is, that's mymiddle way that helps keep me
sane and happy and also help you.
So it's like find that balancefor you and just keep moving in
that direction.
And you know I'm sure anybodylistening to your podcast is is

(58:17):
moving in the right directionalready.

Let us know where we can find you, chloe.
Where can we find you and moreinformation about you?
And I know you're very activeon TikTok and is it radical
rootscom?

Yeah, I've got radical roots herbscom for CBD
and Chinese herbs.
I just launched noxy herbscom,which is noxi, which is a
woman's's health line, and thenmy podcast is radicalremedyorg.
The podcast is Radical Remedyand it's all about really
supporting healthy kids andhappy moms, because, at the end

(58:54):
of the day, I do not believethat you can have one without
the other, and I'm reallyobsessed with the idea of
building health in our childrenand in order to do that, I think
we also need to support ourmothers, because this is not an
easy path.

I love it.
Thank you so much, chloe.
It was just so great, such agreat conversation with you
always.

Thank you.
It's an honor to be here.
I always love your show andappreciate so much the
authenticity and the integritythat brings everything that you
do.

Likewise, my dear, likewise, I hope you enjoyed
this episode.
Be sure to share it withsomeone you know might benefit,
and always remember when yourate, review, subscribe, you
help to support my content andhelp me to keep going and

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