Unconscious Manifestation: Are You Creating a Life You Don’t Want? With Cathleen Beerkens - Episode 272 - Sandy K Nutrition - Health & Lifestyle Queen

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Hi everyone, welcome to Sandy KNutrition, health and Lifestyle

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Queen.
This week I have a lovely guest.
Her name is Cathleen Beerkensand we are going to talk about a
lot of what she writes about inher book, and really it's how
to combine the body, the mind,the spirit and the soul to truly

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optimize your wellness.
And she's also the author ofthe book called your Creator
Matrix, of the book called yourCreator Matrix, and really it's
the entire concept of well-beingand existence through blending
all of those thingsself-awareness, healthy habits,

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you know, the mind, the spirit,the soul.
I've been talking about thisfor years and then Kathleen came
to me through I don't know whatagency and I just so resonated
with her book.
And I resonate with the topicbecause I've been talking about

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this importance of this blend ofall of these things to optimize
our wellness for so many years.
I mean, I have been part of avery scientific community, as
part of the biohacking community, I and then I'm like I don't

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know, you guys, like you kind ofgo through life and I've been
on this journey ever since.
I guess it would be when wasthat?
2010, when my daughter wasdiagnosed with cancer at the age
of five.
And I keep getting involved andlearning and seeking, and I do

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believe that this is what lifeis about.
We are naturally seekers if wechoose to see and if we choose
to learn.
And you know I turned 55 thisyear and I feel like you know
I'm learning something new everyday.
And you know I'm not sayinganything's wrong with you.

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If you want to retire, hey, byall means.
I feel like I'm just gettinggoing these lengthy meditations
lately in the last couple ofweeks with my Brenda Farrugia,
of SoBrilliant.
ca.
I've recorded with her twiceand you know a lot of what she

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does really resonates with me.
I did two of these beam therapysessions lately as well as a
lengthy meditation.
So these sessions, thesemeditations, are really never
shorter than an hour, an hourand a half, and one of the
things that Brenda has taught methat there are no shortcuts,

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and I think that you know whenwe see, oh, just put yourself in
this frame of mind and poof,all your manifestations will
come true.
Well, it's not that easy andKathleen and I get into some of
this and you know it takes work.
It takes work.
We can't just meditate for fiveminutes a day and go okay, now

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all my manifestations are goingto come true.
Poof, magic.
You know, I, I, I just I feellike when we are seekers, we see
things and we optimize ourwellness as we get older because
we see things through ourintuition, through our
meditations, through ourself-awareness, and all of that

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is optimized by eating whole,real foods.
I'm always like 80-20 rule,people, 80-20.
80% of the time I eat thingsthat really, for the most part,
I would say, serve my bodybecause they're whole, real
foods, and then 20% of the time,it's pleasure, and that's okay

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too.
So this conversation is reallygoing to be an interesting one.
Check out Cathleen's book yourCreator Matrix.
I think it's pretty muchavailable anywhere and I'm going
to ask you a favor.
Okay, I think that our worldhas gotten used to consuming,

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just consuming consuming.
You know, I can go on Amazonright now, put it in my cart and
get it tomorrow.
Sure, I got to pay for it, butmy point is, I don't even have
to go to the store to get what Iwant anymore.
There's really we're just suchconsumers now of everything,

(06:45):
objects, information, and we getused to this where we consume
on social media and often wedon't even say thank you, and
the person behind that postprobably did some work, a lot of
work to do or share, to do thatpost, to share that information

(07:08):
, and so I am going to ask youto, wherever you're listening to
this podcast, go ahead and rateit and review it, because that
helps me get amazing guests likeKathleen each and every week.
Amazing guests like Kathleeneach and every week.
Share it with a friend, shareit through Instagram, facebook,

(07:39):
whatever, because that's againhow you say thank you for
consuming whatever it is thatI'm putting out there.
If it is helpful for you, thankyou.
And I say thank you for doingthat and thank you for being a
loyal listener and also be sureto follow me on Instagram.
I've had this really weird burstof creativity lately where I

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have a lot of this stuff in mybrain and a lot of these things
that I do, that I use, thatoptimize my wellness.
It could be how I lookexternally.
I shared a post last week andmy little magic trick for
rosacea, which is something thatI kind of struggle with, and I

(08:23):
just had this burst of energyand of creativity and I think
maybe it has something to dowith all this meditation I've
been doing.
But I love it and it feelsreally good to share.
And what feels really good isto share it without discount
codes.
And the reason I love it isbecause it's saying to you hey,

(08:48):
I'm really passionate about thisand I'm sharing this because I
love it.
It's helped me and I'm givingyou some breadcrumbs for you to
go and research and see if itmakes sense for you.
And you know one of my bestfriends from childhood.
She said to me you know you areliterally the best person as it

(09:12):
relates to doing research andselling products, and I'm like
I'm not even selling products.
Sure, sometimes I am anaffiliate for companies and
brands that I really believe in,but it's because I share such a
passion for sharing when I hearor read or research or find out

(09:34):
something new and exciting thatcould help someone.
And you know, I, god, like,I've had this weird situations
in the past where people willtake my information and you know
they will somehow weaponize itand I'm like whoa, like I'm not

(09:58):
trying to hurt anybody, I'mtrying to help people.
I'm trying to help people.
I'm trying to help people livebetter lives.
That is the energy behindeverything that I do with Sandy
K Nutrition.
So I appreciate it, I appreciateyou, I appreciate that you come
back and that you follow mypodcast wherever you're

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listening, and I hope you reallyenjoy this conversation.
And hey, if you feel soinclined, drop me an email, Let
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Sandy, at sandyknutritionca.
All the information aboutKathleen's book and her
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Thank you and have a great week, guys.
Hi everyone, welcome to Sandy KNutrition, health and Lifestyle
Queen.
Today with me I have a specialguest.
Her name is Cathleen Beerkins.
Cathleen graduated from theUniversity of Maryland with a
Bachelor of Science in HealthEducation in 1983 and continued

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her education by receiving a BSNfrom Georgetown University
Nursing School.
Yes, that's right, you are aformer nurse in 1985.
She began her nursing career atGeorgetown University Medical
Center in Washington DC, whereshe worked for 11 years in

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various positions.
She also spent many years as ateacher's assistant at the
Georgetown University NursingSchool, conducting childbirth
education and working withmidwives.
Bierkens is the founder of AWellness Revolution, an
institute for integrativenutrition based in Amsterdam,

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the Netherlands.
Yeah, and we are going to talktoday about how to combine body,
the mind, the spirit and thesoul to truly optimize our
wellness.
Soul to truly optimize ourwellness.
Now Cathleen also has anincredible book out called is it

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A Creator Matrix?

Cathleen Beerkens (12:32):
or the.

Your Creator, your Creator Matrix.
There we go, if you can see it.
Yeah, it kind of blanks in andout there we go.
It's called your Creator Matrix.
Now, I do get a lot of books,but I did scan through most of

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it and it was fascinating to mebecause not a lot of people that
I interview combine all ofthese facets to our wellness,
and Kathleen has done this.
So I'm going to ask everybodyto kind of hang with us, because

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we're obviously not going tobreak down the entire book, but
we are going to break down andtalk about some really important
concepts, because I talk aboutthe body, the mind, the spirit,
the soul all the time, and soit's rare for me to meet
somebody who's like like writtensomething about this.

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This is different than anythingI've recorded about and, with
that welcome, I am so happy tomeet you, kathleen, and I'm
excited for this conversation.
I'm grateful.

Thank you for having me.

Yeah, I think it's important that we begin with
your background, because you dohave a medical background.

Yes, and I have an entire family of doctors
.
It's crazy, even my son is acardiologist at Mount Sinai
Fellow and I have a doc, I havea grandfather and my dad was a
PhD in chemistry and I now I nowam really, I'm really going in
the like what we would calllifestyle medicine.
So I'm a PhD candidate actuallyin a university in Europe

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trying to do I'm also going tobe doing some research on
nutrition.
I think that's going to be myresearch for humanity.
But at this point at the timewhen I was young, I was like a
young girl and I was a littlebit thinking to myself wow, this
world is really quite chaotic,like it didn't feel happy and my

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parents did their best and theyseemed okay, but it was just
all the other things.
They were.
My mother was a civil right.
She was a political activistfor Cesar Chavez and Martin
Luther King, so they were and myand when I did research, so
later I found out that actuallyI have a great, great
grandmother on that side who wasone of the pioneers that

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founded the came over in theearly part Daughters of the
American Revolution and sheliterally was a suffragette.
So I had so much I didn't knowabout my background, but my, but
I was young and I was kind oflost, I would say.
I felt like I could see thingsand I had certain abilities.
They would never be understoodat that time.

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It was sort of like they wouldnever be understood at that time
.
It was sort of like no one evenasked.
Actually, you, you, I didn'tunderstand it myself.
I was just, you know, kind ofgoing through my life and raised
, very catholic, so I was justreally very trying to.
I felt spiritual in the sensethat I, I would, I was always
very connected this way, but I,I was still lost here.

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Earth seemed rather difficult.
So I, but I was very clear,like as a young woman, my, I
wrote in the book that my dadinvited me to Walter Reed
Medical Center to see their newhospital.
When I went there I had a likekind of an intuition or a
feeling I need to work in ahospital.
That's it, I knew it.
Or a feeling I need to work ina hospital, that's it, I knew it

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.
I was only 15.
So I then kept studyingpsychology, biology, and I
realized that it wouldn't begood for my family if I went
into medicine because we had toomany kids, six kids in seven
years.
My parents were having adivorce and I thought no, I just
go on to nursing school.
It's more realistic at thispoint for the family.
But it was also much harder forme because doctor was easy Like

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you, sit there and tellsomething you know.
But the nursing, oh my word,these 11 years, they were the
hardest thing.
You have to listen.
You have to listen with yoursoul.
If you're really in nursing,you're always around the pain.
You're always in the reality.
It's, it's intense.
I love nurses.
I think they're amazing becauseit's such a commitment.

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It's so hard and yet I did it.
And then I was so burned out.
I had my first two kids.
I was like exhausted.
You know, I know there's no onethere in the hospital saying,
oh, you have to take care ofyourself, oh, you have to do
this, oh, nobody.
So that became very awkwardbecause how can you really take
care of another when you're nottaking care of yourself?
It's impossible.

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I had a Dutch husband.
We came to a critical point.
I write about it in the bookthat he had two job offers and
one was in New York at the WorldTrade Center and one was in a
family company in Europe and Iwanted to go to New York because
I wanted to get my master's, Iwanted to continue to study and
research and all this.

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But it was clear in my heartthat that was the wrong thing to
do.
I just knew it.
I said, honey, I don't know why, but we can't go to New York,
and not now.
We have to go to Europe.
And that's really hard for mebecause I have to leave everyone
behind, but we're going to doit and it's going to be okay.
So we went and like, literallywithin a couple of years, the
World Trade Center fell and Iknew and he would have been in

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the 77th floor, I was, I wasreally like.
So sometimes when you listen toyour inner knowingness, you get
messages and I've just alwaysbeen very good at doing that.
I I think that's where we'regoing.
Humanity's going to learn this.
It's a, it's a new, it's a.
Maybe we one time knew it, butwe have to go back there because

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we have to learn to look withinand not just outside of us.
You know we we will have theanswers.
But that's a little bit of myhistory.
And now I, and then I foundededucation for the National Board

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very high level, because Ibelieve that my role is to help
the medical system become moreholistic, to help the medical
system that is deeply flawed.
Heal as we heal, that is mymission.

So you're blending science with holistic and I find
that really fascinating becausetypically who you're speaking
to or educating wouldn't be soopen.

Yeah, but there's a after COVID, you know,
and this is about timing,everything's sort of timed.
So you're right, this message20 years ago would have been
terrible, and it was, and Ialready was against the wall a
lot Because I was helping peopleheal, also with energy and with
nutrition and all, and evennutrition was not looked at, you

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know.
Anyway, there was a big kind ofyou know what's been happening.
So I was sort of up againstwalls all the time in all fronts
, whether it was body, mental,spiritual and, by the way, even
in the hospital, the fact thatthey separated all the things
like the mental ward, like whatis that about?
I never worked.

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I worked on a mental ward atone point and I never met a
person who was mental, whodidn't also have a physical
problem, like that, yes, that isnot normal.
So there was a disconnect in thehospital and there's a
disconnect in in our world.

OK, and I have to ask you this have you heard of
this?
Yes, this you have.
Of course you have.
So messages from the body, somessages from the body he was.
I think he was a psychologistthat worked in many mental
institutions where he wouldanalyze his patients' physical
ailments to their mentalailments.

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I love that you brought that up.

Kathleen.
Well, I mean, I just saw thedisconnections all over the
place.
I was very aware.
And it wasn't just that, it wasalso emotions.
Nobody even talked about it.
What the heck?
It was so obvious to me thatthe emotions are so huge.
They're like messages to us andwe're ignoring them.
It doesn't make any sense.

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So for me, I definitely want,like I said, I know that book.
I work with people who arehealers.
I say they help people heal.
Now I don't want to say healersanymore, they help people heal,
because I believe inself-healing now, but I work
with people who work on thatlevel and I work on that level

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now of that book you just showed.
So there's always a message inthe body.
The body is our temple and weare just energy in a body with
an emotional body and all ofit's together.
But we haven't been trained tounderstand how to function.
And so your creator matrixactually means you are creating

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your reality with the body, mind, spirit, soul all the time,
even if you don't realize it.
And that's what we didn'trealize.
Humanity did not realize thatwe were creating our reality.
We felt victim and we justdidn't feel we had any power
when I was young and that's whythe whole 1960s came.

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This revolution started of waita minute, maybe I'm more, maybe
we are important as human beings, maybe we have a mission here,
maybe we really do and maybe wehave to think differently.
And that was the whole radicalthing of the 60s.
And then we saw everythingcontinue to evolve 70s, 80s, 90s

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, 2000s.
And now here we are, 2025 are2025, can you imagine?
And people are now waking up tothe fact that they create their
reality.
But it's very hard to become itlike we can know it.
We can say, oh yeah, I canimagine, we create, we co-create
I say co-create our reality,but then things are not showing

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up very fast.
Or I'm thinking it, I'm tryingto manifest it, I'm trying to
think it, but it's not coming.
And so what I've done, and I'vetried to help people to
understand, is that when we haveblockages on any level, and
even the soul level, we will notmanifest very easily, because
the we're in a very dense energyon Earth and it's slow, but it

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is changing because we are in achanging time.
We are in an awakening ofconsciousness, a very quickening
of consciousness, which meansthat we see more.
Suddenly, we have more power tomanifest, we have more power to
see our blockages, we have moreabilities, and that will just,
in my opinion, continue.

Let's back up a little bit to this one statement
, because I want to kind of goin order so that people get it.
So you are a creator.
Everybody on this planet is acreator in their own story.
True?

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What does that?

mean, yeah, that's great, so.
So, by the way, when I say thatwe are awakening to this, I
think it's the chit chat onTikTok, all the young people who
are talking about it, but trulyit's coming.
What does it mean?
It means that we are creatorsin our own right.

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Our internal reality isreflecting, like what's
happening on the outside of usis only a reflection of our
internal state.
Everything is frequency in theuniverse, everything, and we are
creating through our thoughts,our words, our belief systems

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and our whole being Like.
I'll give you an example wewant a house, we want to change
our house.
You know, we're thinking thatthought.
Someone doesn't.
You know, someone doesn't cometo you and say, hey, you're born
.
I wish they did.
You're going to go through lifeand you're going to, through
your very thoughts, you're goingto influence your reality.

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They don't do that.
Right, I wish we had that, butwe don't.
But that's what we need to doto our children.
But we don't, but that's whatwe need to do to our children.
We need to say look, yourthoughts are powerful.
What you think about yourselfreally matters.
You know, have you ever metpeople, sandy, who just they
don't talk, but that you justfeel they don't love themselves
Totally.

They don't have any self-esteem, even how they
carry themselves Like they mightbe more slumped over.
They might be.

Yes, their frequency, their vibration and
we'll get into that is muchlower People can feel that, yeah
, and so we could say that a lotof humanity, most of humanity,
has been in that state for eons.

We've been in what?

we call the dark ages of humanity.
Covid really enhanced thateveryone.

I'm sorry.
It was like we were put in adungeon during COVID and all of
those feelings.

Yes, it was an opportunity, sandy, to
embrace our dark side, let's say, and let's say we didn't
embrace it for eons because itwas hidden, because we couldn't
see it.
So it was like there, but itwas festering.
You know, it was sort of likethese behaviors and this way.
We thought about everything andeverything.
We were sort of in a matrix.

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Actually, that word matrix iskind of funny.
You could say we were in amatrix.
What is a matrix?
It's a system.
We were in a system of beliefs,of the way of living, and we
only could go to a certainfrequency.
We weren't able to sustain thatmuch high frequency at that
time.
There's a lot of reasons forthat.

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But in the year in 1960s, whathappened was actually and this
is NASA wrote about this theEarth started to go towards a
photon belt, a galactic photonbelt, let's say.
The Earth travels in space andit was traveling in a dark space
for a long, long time andsuddenly, can you imagine, it's

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getting to the light.
And that was the 1960s and nowwe're in the photon belt, guess
when that happened 2020.
So it's like, oh, wow.
So suddenly the lights went on,the lights all over the earth
went on and we woke up, we were.
It was like we were almostforced to wake up and see things

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.
But then we saw everything.
We saw the realities and theywere not easy.
Can you imagine, so being acreator?
Getting back to that, becausethat was the question.
It's hard to take it, it's hardto believe it, that we could
impact our reality on such alevel that we could be bringing

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into our reality what webelieved we could.
But we're starting to see,through science, quantum physics
, that this is our reality, thatwe actually are all one.
We're energy, like you and I.
We are connected now in a fieldof energy.
Perhaps we won't even have totalk in the future.

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We'll just communicatetelepathically.
I can imagine some of the newkids do that, and but right now
we have to talk to communicate.
But if we, if we don't talk andwe settle ourselves and we just
go in, we already know thingsto believe that you do right,

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don't you know things?
If you're in a room, you canread the room, you can.

Kathleen, you know I've had people go oh really
Like think I'm weird, but I Ican.
If you put me in a restaurantand there are a bunch of people
sitting around me, I, if I getquiet, I can probably tell you

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something about each person.

Yeah.

Because I'm able to feel whatever it is that
they're putting off, like I caneven look at somebody.
Even on a photograph I can lookat somebody.
I can almost feel somethingabout them, but it's like you
have to get quiet to be able todo it.

And you have to trust, and these are the
clairvoyant claircognition.
This is the new senses that wehave, but they're underdeveloped
.
So we have our five senses.
We're very stuck to what we see, what we smell and all this and
very linear, right, but wearen't linear, we're
multidimensional.
So what's happening to us nowis we're being kind of

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stimulated to realize that we'renot linear and it's getting
more complex and we're startingto see that we're not linear and
so our science is behind, ithasn't caught up.
It's like imagine we had ascience and we had math and
everything explained this linearworld we lived in and that was
the matrix.
Well, that matrix is fallingapart.
Now we're going to a new worldand now we're like having to get

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new.
We're seeing more.
So we're like, oh, that sciencewasn't completely correct.
Oh, that math, Well, that mightnot have been completely
correct.
Oh, that math, Well, that mightnot have been completely
correct.
Oh well, the way we look atmedicine, oh, we could be
looking more holistic.
Oh yeah, we have kind of lostthat.
So we're in a like this is whatwe're in right now.
We're in every field education,you name it.

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This is what's happening.

Okay, so you want to hear something I've actually.
It's interesting that we'retalking about that this week,
because this week I've hadthoughts about how a lot of
systems that are in place aredesigned to keep us numbed to
those senses.

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Kathleen, there you go, thereyou go right, right, right.

They're not allowing us.
They're not allowing us toexpand.
They're not when we go.
When we went to expand, theyput us down and and when we said
, oh, it's, what about emotions?
Aren't could they beinfluencing our physical state?
They shut me up in the hospital.
We don't have time for that.
It mean, I could go on and on,but I don't think we should look

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back, we should look forward.
I believe quantum physics sayswhat you focus on expands.
Be careful what you focus on.
We need to focus on the future.
We need to focus on what earthwe want.
We want an earth that's mold,that we agree, that we agree
we're spirit in a body and westop fighting about it.

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It's like, really, you're goingto still fight with me, like
all everyone on the planet isgoing to fight with me that we
are, that we are spirit in abody, when that has been proven
in science.
Now it's ridiculous.
It's like a fight that itdoesn't even make sense, because
in quantum physics it's clearwe are spirit and a body to

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having a temporary physicalexperience.

Yeah, I think that this is fascinating because you
know everything that I do.
I'm a big believer that we havefeelings, we have big feelings
and while we want to remain asmuch as we can in that mindset

(32:38):
like you said, looking forwardor looking to the present moment
, and forward as opposed tolooking back we have to be able
to adopt certain practices, anda lot of these practices you
have in your book, to be able toadopt certain practices and a
lot of these practices you havein your book to be able to move
through certain feelings andvibrations that are not so great

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, but we got to move through itin order to get through and get
to that new world as you speakof.
Does that make sense to you?

Yes, and it's okay if people listening feel
sad about the old falling.
There's a period of mourningwe're going through.
We're all mourning that thisold world didn't work.
You know, it's sort of like, ifyou think about it collectively
, on some level we're all soulsthat are we've committed to this

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old world for a long time.
I have, anyway.
I was born a long time ago butI also went through that kind of
sadness of what's happened tothe world.
It's not what I thought.
It's scary, it's even moreweird than I thought it's scary,

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it's even more weird than Ithought.
And so, yes, allow yourself thespace to grieve the old, but
realize that when you're goingto go through this change which
is we call it a spiritualawakening, it's quite a
challenge for the body, mind,spirit, the whole complex has to
change, like it's not just thatyou change a thought or that
you start seeing that the worldis different.

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It's that everything in yourworld starts to not fit anymore
Like your old friends and yourbody.
You start to feel differentthings that you maybe have been
avoiding.
Maybe emotions are coming up.
This is why, in COVID, youcould look at it as a spiritual
exercise, that we needed to bequieter.
We needed to quiet down andhave more quiet time to digest

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the change that was going tohappen and that's crazy to think
about, but in the end we wereall much more alone than we ever
have been.

In the end, we were all much more alone than we
ever have been.
So another quote from your bookis that health and wellness is
a journey of personal choice.
So this is like we were lookingmore at a macro level.
Now let's bring it more tomicro.

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What do you mean by thatstatement?

Well, once you start to realize that you
have choices all the time abouteverything and that you're not a
victim, that you're not a that,you, that you literally are
more powerful than you realize,you start to realize that you
are free.
You are actually free to make achoice in every situation.
But you have to realize thatand one of the things about
health and wellness is this isone of the things I realized
people came into the hospitallike, let's say, illness is here

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and wellness is here, there's acontinuum right.
And they were all over here.
Obviously, they were very sickand they didn't even know it.
Like I was shocked that nobodyknew they had cancer, any
symptoms very rare.
They didn't know they had these, whatever they had, and they
were shocked.
You know, wow.
So I had to say to myself, well, how did they?

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How did we get here?
Like what happened?
Why were?
Why were we so disconnectedfrom ourselves that we didn't
even realize we get here?
Like what happened?
Why were?
Why were we so disconnectedfrom ourselves that we didn't
even realize we were here?
And that was my research for allthese 20 or 30 years, and what
I started to realize is that inthis world, how it is in the
duality and the heaviness andthe toxicity, and we were not
going to make it all so negative, because but it has been quite

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something.
What I realized is that you hadto kind of work at it.
You're not just going to getthere, you're not.
It's not even about prevention,because, honestly, prevention's
like oh, I'll do a couplethings and then I'll be healthy
the rest of my life.
Well, perhaps, but what Istarted seeing is that actually
you had to work on all thoseareas and nobody was telling us

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about it.
So if you think of your creatormatrix, you have your own
matrix, divinely given to youthat has all aspects body, mind,
spirit, emotions and you haveto be able to make sure all of
those are in harmony with eachother.
And nobody teaches us aboutthat.
So we're sitting there at aloss to how to care for our

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creator matrix.
And so my book tries to say look, the science is farther than we
realize.
We have not been taught at ourmedical school I know, because
my son just finished medicalschool and residency they were
not even taught the mostimportant sciences, only from a
pharmaceutical perspective.
That's not okay.
I'm not saying you don't needpharmacy.

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Sometimes you need it.
I'm a nurse but, honestly, tobe chronically dependent and
take no responsibility exceptfor to take a pill every day,
that's not where we're going.
We need to take moreresponsibility for ourselves and
we need to not be afraid, butwe need to know how.
We need to know how to care forourselves and we need to not be
afraid, but we need to know how.
We need to know how to care forourselves.

So I'm fully aligned with you.
I mean, there's going to beincidents, though, where you
might have a blip, you mighthave a mess, like one thing I
don't like to do.
One thing I don't like to do.
How would I say this?
I don't want it to seem like,if something happens in terms of

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an illness, it was your fault.

No, but that's not true.
But that's not true becausewe're co-creating and we're
living in an environment that'snot healthy, so everything about
it has not been healthy.
I don't have time I write aboutit in the book, but it is
fairly dark from the way wetreated our food, from the way
we and it's not just oneindustry, they're all corrupted.

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So it couldn't be possible tosay it's anyone's fault.
Everything is influencingeverything.
There are many causes to theeffect, you know.
But do I believe that somedaywe will be in a different world
where we will realize the powerof our thoughts and have power
over this?
Yes, but then our thoughts haveto be quite powerful and right

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now we haven't even been trainedto think that way.
So how can we?
There's no blame and, by theway, guilt and all of those
emotions are very low frequency.
So you get somebody in thatstate.
They get ill.
Why would?
I am not.
I believe that we just have tolike, love our each other where
we're at, be compassionate andreally be compassionate for all,

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but not do it anymore foreverybody Like I can't do.
I used to be like oh, I'll helpyou, oh, I'll do a healing, oh,
no, no, I got so wiped outbecause no one took any
responsibility and I was justdoing all of it.
So that's not good either.
And those, you know what thosewere on the triangle.
So you have your victim, youhave your perpetrator and you

(39:52):
have your saviors.
And I was programmed forgenerations to save everybody.
But you cannot save people.
They have to do it themselvesand that's the grow up period.
I would say that is the timewe're in.
That's kind of heavy, becauseit's like you know how, when
adolescents don't want to takeresponsibility for doing their
homework and they don't want to,it's like all new, they have to

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change, they have to dosomething different.
Well, we're all asked now tochange like really fast, without
a lot of help and a lot ofguidance, and that's tough.
And there's a lot of news outthere that's not even true.
So people are going what's true, what's not true?
Oh my goodness, I don't evenknow what's true anymore.
I mean, you know fake news.
Well, it is very difficult.

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So I say, the more aligned youget in yourself, the more you're
going to be able to know what'sgood for you.
And don't let anyone else tellyou.
You will feel it, you will knowif this is.
You'll get up If you're reallyconnected to yourself and that's
what I think people have towork on now.
Going in, and if you're reallyconnected, you're suddenly just

(40:59):
going to feel like this reallyexcited feeling when you're on
the right path.
I can't explain it, but it'sreally wonderful.

Have you seen the movie?
It's older.
It's called Inner Worlds, OuterWorlds.

I haven't, but I can imagine what it is.

So that's exactly what you're talking about.
It's a little bit of an olderdocumentary and I think you know
it certainly didn't have a highbudget or anything, but it's
about that.
It's about how we areconstantly seeking answers about
ourselves, outside of ourselves, even.

(41:36):
Still, kathleen, I've beenspeaking about this whole thing
where maybe you have someinsight into this about how,
especially over the last year orso, I've been seeing people in
the space of wellness in adifferent way, meaning there are

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some who are there out of trueauthenticity, really just
wanting to help the world, andthen there are others who are
there for greed, power, ego,like listen to me, listen to me,
sandy Cruz, I know everythingabout you and what I'm saying is
right and what you're saying iswrong.

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And I'm seeing all of that,kathleen, and I'm like Whoa, and
I've even had people comment onposts that I've made where
they're like Well, who, who do II trust?
Then I'm like you, trust you.

Yeah, the thing is you're bringing up such
a good point.
Yeah, the thing is, look, we'rein a world of duality and
that's a very hard concept.
But we've been learning and youcould say earth is a school and
we've been learning aboutourselves through playing the
dark side, playing the lightside.
But what's happening now is, aspeople are awakening, they're

(42:56):
going above duality.
When they're ready, they'relike oh, do I really need to be
the murderer?
Do I need to be this personwho's raped?
Do I need it?
I think I'm done with thosestories.
Those are really not stories Iwant to partake in anymore.
I'm ready for this other world,this world that we're kind of.
We learned all this hard stuffin duality.
Now we're ready to transcend it.
Now that's a hard thing toimagine, but that's where I

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think we're going.
So, when people because weplayed out so many storylines by
now and that's where our moviescame in, because even if we
didn't have the story, we couldwatch a movie and then it's like
the neuroscience shows us thatas we're watching a movie, it's
happening to us Like that's theweird thing.
It's almost like we didn't needto have all the stories because

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we have all these movies rightnow.
So our technology is quickeningas we are transcending, in
other words, that outsidereality is mirroring us.
So what I think is, how can weknow?
I think the thing is whenpeople are still in the duality,

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they still lack consciousness,they don't know who they are,
they haven't stepped into theirtrue being, that they are divine
, that they can manifest whatthey want, they have faith in
themselves, they love themselves.
When that's not happening yet,then they're very much in that
old paradigm of survival and weneed to go way beyond survival.

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You know, when people, when yousee heroes, truly, what is a
hero?
I think a hero in any story hasbeen one that did transcend the
difficult thing, that did goabove and didn't just survive.
They made some and they didn'tjust do it to be the hero, they
did it out of pure love for theother, and I think that's where

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we're going.
But that's such a weird thingbecause people mostly think
that's not possible to get there.
Well, that's not true.
If we believe it, it can becreated.
So we need to start focusing onthat and we need a lot of
people out there to be trainedto help people to heal, because
there's so many wounds that arekeeping people in, the lack,

(45:10):
that are keeping people.
And you asked about being acreator.
Well, we create through ourthoughts and belief systems.
And if those thoughts andbelief systems are, oh, I'm
never, I'm not good enough, I'mnever going to make it, oh, I'm
like pathetic, I'm not talented,I have nothing, well, guess
what?
Then we create that.

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So we create from that, and Ialways teach my students.
We have the belief, we have theemotion that goes with it, and
then the storyline.
So what's the belief?
The belief is I'm not goodenough, let's say.
And then the emotion wassadness.
So they're constantly sad aboutthat, but they don't realize it
because that is in thesubconscious.

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It's not in the conscious, it'snot here, but it's becoming
more here.
As we are going through thistime, more people are realizing
wow, something's not right withme.
I'm kind of always sad.
And you know what?
How many of us go ask ourfriends, our dearest friends,
tell me the truth.
What do you see in me?

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What could I improve?
I'm doing my best here, butsomething's just disconnected
and I need your help here.
But they're scared of that.
They're scared of the truthbecause they're afraid they're
not good enough, right?
So if that person confirmsthey're not good enough, there's
no hope for them.
But that's not true.

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If we could realize that we canchange it, that actually we
have power to change thesubconscious, we have power to
change those storylines, we havepower to change those emotional
blockages we really do we thencan change our life.

So one of my things is I'm an English literature
graduate.
That was way back.
I'm also a writer and one of mythings is language and choice
of words are very importantbecause they're tied to meaning

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and emotion.
So back to the whole thingabout disease and illness and
how we co-create in a lot of thethings that might happen to us.
One of the things I don't sayis my thyroid cancer or my right
.
So I know you would totallyresonate with this, but to me

(47:40):
that immediately will put yourvibration kind of down here, as
opposed to me saying, yeah, Ihad thyroid cancer, yeah, it
happened to me, yes, you know,we dealt with it.
Yeah, I had some struggles, andit's not about putting a fancy

(48:00):
bow on what happened.
It's saying it happened but itain't mine and it actually
helped to fuel who I am today.

It was kind of.
It was like sometimes ourhardest things that happen to us
are triggering us right now forthat spiritual awakening.
So I talk about that in thebook that sometimes we manifest
a disease or we manifestimbalance or we manifest mental
issues or whatever to help uscome back in Because we have

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been too out there.
We need to come in.
So there's a balance, a kind ofbalance between yin and yang,
and we're very yang, yang, yangand we don't take enough time to
go in and digest and rest anddigest.
So that's literal like we are astressed out world.
Like we are a stressed outworld and so in order to get to

(48:57):
balance our stress, we need todigest.
When you own whatever you own,you become, because we are
creators.
So when you would say I am, Itold my mother like she had an
alcohol problem.
I said don't you ever sayyou're an alcoholic?
I don't agree with that,because then you become that.

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I said you are a divine light,human being who's doing their
best to just the world was a bithard and you just needed that
alcohol at the time to numbyourself because it was way too
tough.
And I that's what I said to mymom and I think for you like I
just want to say I researchcells, I help people be healthy
at a cell level because on allof those levels body, mind,

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spirit, every emotion, it's allon the cell, it's all affecting
the cell.
And who's in charge of the cellin the end?
We are.
I can tell you I share it inthe book.
It's crazy we have so muchpower over and it's called
epigenetics the new science.
But we have tremendous power.
So can you imagine, like you,you you have to cancer.

(50:07):
Let's just talk about that.
Everybody has cancer cells.
That's like a total illusion.
I hate that they say you havecancer.
That's baloney.
You have an immune system thathas become faulty.
That's what you have.
When the cancer gets out ofcontrol or when an autoimmune
gets out of control, what thattells me from my scientific

(50:27):
background.
The immune system is notworking properly and you know
what?
It's amazing that so manypeople's immune system is doing
as well as it is, becausethere's a lot of influences on
us right now that are tough onthe immune system and I can get
into that.
I talk about in the book thegut, the immune system, are

(50:49):
friends when they're not in themind, like the gut, the immune
system and the brain are allconnected and when any of those
start to get out of balance forany reason it can be emotions,
it can be our thoughts, it canbe toxins, it can be not the
right food, it can be the wrongstoryline, this maybe we've

(51:13):
disconnected from our soulpurpose.
Whatever it can be all of thosethings Then the body gets out
of alignment and gets intodisharmony and then the immune
system gets tired and then thecancer cells can just grow and
that's what happens.
So, because if you see at acellular level and that's what I
show my students you see that ahappy, healthy immune system

(51:37):
says can communicate, can talk.
Actually it's online.
It's like a lot of systemsright now are offline, which
means at a cell level there's nocell communication.
And in order to know where thecancer cell is, I need to see it
, to get my immune system tokill it right.

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Or if my body's attackingitself, why is it doing that?
Why are my cells not knowingthat?
That is me.
Think about that.
Well, it's because the cellcommunication has become faulty
and it's not working properlyand it's offline.
You can look at it like online,offline.

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So if you want to be online,you need to eat proper nutrition
, and we're not even guided inthe new science of glycoscience
to understand what the mostimportant nutrient is, and it's
not hardly in our food anymore.
It's really crazy.

So in this book, yeah, I wanted to get.
Okay, I want to get into that,but I would love for you to just
quickly because dr bruce liptonI I studied him when I went
back to college.
The biology of belief.
That's a big part of really theemotional connection to those

(52:55):
cells that you're talking about,right?

like, and he's trying, yes, but he's even
more, he's.
He's really wonderful.
I talk about him a lot.
He's really talking about thisconscious, that every cell has
consciousness, yes, yes, andit's like we are and that we
talk to it.
That are that we talk toourselves, but we do it through
our subconscious.

Yes, I wanted to touch on him, and then I do want
to talk about glycans.
Yeah, do you want to touch onthat?

Sure.
So it's really quiteinteresting.
So in the book I try to explainand I give you like a cheat
sheet at the end, because I knownot everybody's into science
and I know that with my studentstoo, because they're all
becoming coaches, so they're notall into science, but in the
end they all love it becausethey start to realize who they

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are at a physical level too.
So every cell, you make amillion cells a second, can you
imagine, and every cell in yourbody needs the raw materials to
make itself properly.
We become what we eat,literally Like I wish someone
had told me that years ago,literally that's.
Everyone should know that whois.
You know we're eating food andwe don't even realize that when

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we eat, when we eat something,we become it.
So if you can imagine that themacronutrients, which are
proteins, fats and this is notevery fat these are the good
fats, good proteins and certainsugars, but not the bad sugars.
They're not sweet, we're nottaught about that either.

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We're only taught about the badsugars.
But these three componentsendoclonicic acids make up every
cell of our body.
So if you don't eat it itdoesn't get made properly.
If it doesn't get made properly, it can't function properly.
Structure is function.
So it's like making a housewithout you know how the big bad

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wolf like he could just blowthe house down.
Well, we were all in a verydire state and COVID because our
houses weren't built properly.
So imagine we knew how to eatproperly and we ate the right
things.
And every government should begiving us what we need.
It should not be made of guilt.
It should not be made of guilt.

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They should be knowing whathumanity needs and making sure
we eat what we need to eat tobuild strong houses, to build a
strong body, and that's just nothappening.
I have a vision of thathappening one day, but right now
it's not happening.
In fact, I've even been todoctors and I've had gut
problems and I said do you thinkthis is years ago?
Of course, now maybe theywouldn't say that, but do you
think it matters what food I ate?
And they said, oh no, it'sprobably genetic.

(55:43):
It's probably genetic.
And I left that office thinkingthat's not true and that just
fueled me more to do moreresearch.
So when I did the research andthe research is clear we need
these macronutrients, we needmicronutrients, but the
micronutrients, like the vitaminand all the enzymes and
everything else we need thatsupport our body.

(56:04):
They're supportive, you knowthey're.
Now the governments knew thatwe were not having them and they
made.
The pharmacy is the one thatowns most of the supplement
industry, and now I found outthrough my research many years
ago that most supplements aremade of synthetic products and
that's not actually good for usbecause our body type, we are

(56:29):
carbon based.
We need, you know.
We are saying we're allfrequency, right, we're all,
everything's a frequency.
Well, our body can only handlewhat frequency it knows.
So if I suddenly give it a lotof toxins and things it doesn't
know how to handle, itoverwhelms the system.
And so right now we see a lotof people taking vitamins and at

(56:52):
first it makes them feel better.
But if they're on thosesynthetic vitamins for a long
time, there's many studies thatshow it hurts them.
So these are the kind of thingsI learned in my research and I
was just shocked.
So I think, yeah, and theglycans you asked about that,
they are sugar structures butthey are not sweet.
So they come from vegetables,they come from medicinal

(57:18):
mushrooms, they come from kelpand seaweed, but, truthfully,
we're not eating enough of it,and so then this puts a lot of
strain on the liver to make allthese glycans.
And if you look at a cell and Ishow it in the book, it's so
beautiful, I can maybe find ithere.
But if you look at a cell, it'smade of these four things, it's

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made of these glycans.
And I never knew it because Iwas taught the old biology and I
didn't even know.
In fact, when we were young,when we looked at the fuzz
around the cell, to be quitehonest with you, you know what
we thought.
We thought it was just, oh,that didn't matter.
So we took it off, so we wereonly concerned with the proteins

(58:01):
and the inside and the insideof the cell.
But what we now know from BruceLipton and that's what you were
asking me, and this is whatBruce Lipton is known for this
is the cell membrane right here,right here, and here this
yellow part of the proteins.
I mean the yellow is the sorryis the fat.
The blue yellow part of theproteins.
I mean the yellow is the sorryis the fat, the blue is the
protein.

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And this, this stuff on the tophere, these are the sugars that
are antennas and they keep youonline, they're the
communication network.
So this cell membrane look athow membrane is spelled is the
brain of the cell.
So you're constantlyinteracting with this and a
field of energy.
And because we are just energyand the field is connected to
these sugars, these sugars areconstantly in all dimensions and

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they're communicating with uswhat we need there.
So if they're not there, wecannot communicate.
And if they're not there, theydon't recognize cancer cells,
they can't get rid of them.
They they start to, you know,kill your cells or attack your
cells because they, frankly,don't recognize cancer cells.
They can't get rid of them.
They start to, you know, killyour cells or attack your cells
because they, frankly, don't seethe difference.
So this is why the science isso, so important, and all

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universities have a glycosciencedepartment.
Go look, harvard, john Hopkins,they're all studying it, but
they're studying it in terms ofpharmacy, not nutrition.
So we need to start.
If we, you know like we need toask questions, we need to keep
you know.
I bring this information out onall levels to help humanity

(59:32):
right now, at this criticalpoint, to try to fill in the
gaps of our knowledge.
And I don't know everything I'mgoing to tell you.
I keep researching.
That's why I'm in a PhD program.
I want to keep learning becauseI think science is and
everything is about to change aswe get into this quantum
reality that we're going into.

And here's a question.
And here's a question.

(01:00:16):
One thing that I've always saidis one component of our
wellness.
We can't ignore it.
However, it can't dictate truevibrancy and wellness,
especially as we age, becauseit's just I'm going to use an

(01:00:37):
example and this might be outthere, but it's kind of like you
know, it's kind of like how onething that I do, which may be a
scientific practice, let's sayit's a medication that might
work for my body, but it mightdo your body harm, yeah, and I

(01:00:59):
might find one research studythat's very, very, you know,
very well researched, a greatstudy.
However, I might find anotherone that completely negates it.

Cathleen Beerkens (01:01:15):
Very true negates it.

Sandy Kruse (01:01:17):
Very true.
So you know, I just want tomake it kind of clear so that I
understand it.
Your book has a lot of science,but you are blending the
science with the spirit, withthe soul, with all of that
together in your creator matrix.

Yeah, so imagine that we used to think in
medicine that everybody is onesize fits all.
Yes, not true.
That's an illusion.
We are so different.
Our DNA is different, ourancestries, our belief systems,
everything about us is different.
So that's the biggest mistakein medicine.

(01:02:01):
Then the second big mistake inthe last couple hundred years
and I have in my YouTube channelI interviewed somebody who knew
a lot about the changes thatwere done on all medical schools
when we used to have moreknowledge of the holistic.
But we've become soreductionistic.
We only see like a part hereand we're missing the whole
thing.
So it's like, oh, my goodness,you go to this doctor.

(01:02:23):
He's like I have no clue but Ican tell you about this one
little part, but he doesn't knowhow this part relates to that
part and it's also chaotic andalso.
So another big thing thathappens.
So we call thisbio-individuality.
We are all unique and medicineneeds to go there.
Medicine needs to starttreating everyone uniquely, and
women are different than men anda lot of studies are done on

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men.
That's the one thing.
The other thing is we have asystem, a medical system that
was based on chemistry, and weare not just chemistry.
That is just one part of usPhysics.
Quantum physics is showing us awhole nother side, and I think,

(01:03:08):
in the end, medicine is going toreflect quantum physics more
than chemistry and we're goingto start to realize that the
biofields and all of this thatwe have just neglected to study,
because I can tell you, when Ido healings, like with energy on
people, they feel better.
So you can say well, why didthat happen?

(01:03:28):
How did they feel better?
I didn't give them a chemical.
You see, I didn't give them adrug.
They felt, felt better, theyfelt even better than if I had
given them a drug.
So why?
So that's what's going tohappen.
We're going to have this bigshift to studying the quantum
physics in a new way, ourphysical reality, and that's

(01:03:50):
what Bruce Lipton is talkingabout.

What is the Enneagram?
Am I saying it right?
Enneagram theory, is that likehuman design, like what is it?

Okay.
So they're different.
They're both coming to help usto understand ourselves.
They're not absolutes, by theway, they're just templates.
So we have different templatesthat make us bio-individual,
that make us unique, and one ofthem is what you said, the human
design.
And that human design is likekind of in the quantum, showing

(01:04:25):
how our energetic being reactsbetter with certain ways of
living.
Okay, that's the study there.
But why I love the Enneagram isbecause we have a lot of
problems right now getting along.
We have a lot of problems withpeople in businesses being
jealous, not understanding eachother In marriages, people

(01:04:49):
trying to being unhappy becausetheir husbands doesn't
understand them.
And you know and I think Ilearned the hard way because my
husband usually you marry youropposite.
So my husband and I are verydifferent and for a long time we
would try to make each otherlike us because we wanted to
connect.
See, humans want to connect.

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They really do.
That's what we want.
That's when you're in love andeverything's great, you're
connected.
But over time, when you'remarried and you're like, oh,
that's so irritating that hedoes that and I don't do it that
way and I don't even think thatway.
So the Enneagram has ninepersonality types and it was
just so liberating to understandit for me because when I

(01:05:30):
understood my type, I understoodwhat motivates me.
And what motivates me is verydifferent than my husband.
I am a different number.
I, you know, I was alwaysafraid when I was a little girl
of not succeeding.
My husband never even thoughtthose thoughts.
He was always wanting tocontrol things.
He's like a CEO type and I justthat just conflicted in the

(01:05:54):
marriage sometimes.
Right, and now we laugh aboutit because we get it.
We cannot change each other.
We can just like laugh howdifferent we are and see how
that can blend to make you know,to build, to make a better
version of us.
But the Enneagram is so amazing.

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I mean when you learn your typeand then you see the people in
your life, their types, you justget the story.
You're like, oh, this is crazy.

I found that interesting because it was like,
I mean, your book has a bit ofeverything in it to just kind of
it's like it's giving you atemplate to be able to be
healthier on all differentlevels, and it's really cool
because there's nothing likethat Now, I think, because we're

(01:06:47):
almost at an hour not that wehave to have a dead stop, but I
want a final, I guess, summaryon how you feel we as humans can
achieve true wellness.
How can we do that?

I think the most important thing is that you
would like that.
That has to be in yourintention, that you're going to
be healthy and happy and thatyou're willing to do the work to
get rid of all the blockages toget there.
So, in other words, you'rewilling to do the inner work, to
really love yourself enough tobe facing who you, who you, the

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stories that you've done.
You're not your stories.
Nobody's a story.
See, what happens is we, likeyou said with the alcohol and
all that.
We think we're our story andthat is not true.
We just have stories.
You see, as a creator, we'rejust choosing a story.
Actually, and if I take a job,I'm not the job, I just choose

(01:07:51):
to have an experience with thatjob.
If I choose a person to marry,I'm not like that person, I'm
just choosing to experience thestoryline with that person.
So we are not our storyline, weare just pure love and light

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and creating our reality, and wecan choose anything differently
.
So if you want to be healthyand happy, you have to start an
exploration and say honestlywhere in myself should I be
focusing?
Where could I become a betterversion of myself?
And it doesn't matter where youstart.

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Some people start with food.
That's great.
They want to just eat betterand feel better.
Some people start with food.
That's great.
They want to just eat betterand feel better.
Some people start with theiremotions.
They want to understand whythey feel sad.
They want to work on that.
That's fine too.
Or they feel frustrated orwhatever, and they want to learn
how to reprogram our thoughts.
They say, oh, my thoughts arejust not good enough.

(01:08:55):
I want to believe I'm amazing.
I want to believe I can doanything, so I have to reprogram
.
So then they learn about how toreprogram.

So I think it's a time of healing on this planet
and each person can choose whatthey're ready to heal and we
have to love each other throughthis process and stop judging,
because we're all in it togetherBeautiful, and I know that your
book provides a lot of toolsand you can kind of choose where

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you want to choose your ownadventure, choose where you want
to start and what resonateswith you.
So let us know where we canfind you, kathleen.

Yeah, so my organization I founded is called
A Wellness Revolution and Itrain these health coaches at a
high level.
They're gonna help the medicalsystem to coach holistically.
They're gonna help the change.
They're all over the planet.
I have done it almost 10 years,so I have students everywhere
in all systems, either workingwith functional medicine,

(01:09:59):
doctors or having their ownbusiness or working in the
hospital so many differentoptions right now and it's just
getting more and more and moreas we realize we need more help
and doctors realize they needmore help and they can't do it
all themselves.
Nurses either.
Okay, so that's one, and thenif they would like the book,
it's, it's on Amazon.

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Your creator matrix.
That's pretty much it.

Great.
Thank you so so much for coming.
I really appreciate you.
We had such a great chat,kathleen.

Thank you, sandy, you're wonderful, thank
you for having me.

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