October 9, 2024 • 31 mins
Can we truly say goodbye when the journey has been this fulfilling? As we celebrate our 100th episode of the Satisfaction Factor podcast, we look back with pride and gratitude on three transformative years of meaningful conversations about body liberation and the relentless dismantling of diet culture. We've reached a point where our personal and professional lives have evolved, and the time feels right to conclude this chapter. We've always believed in the power of an "intuitive ending," and it’s with this philosophy that we embrace this transition, knowing we've achieved our original aspirations.
Podcasting has been a voyage of unexpected joys, surprises, and deep connections. Our listeners have joined us in this enriching exploration, and we've cherished every moment of learning together.
As we wrap up this journey, we fondly reminisce about our favorite episodes and the humor found in even the harshest one-star reviews. Your feedback has been invaluable, and we encourage you to continue engaging with us through our social media channels and websites. Though this is a farewell to the podcast, the connection we've built is far from over. Thank you for riding with us on this incredible journey; your unwavering support has truly been the satisfaction factor in this adventure.
Stay in touch with the pod on IG @satisfactionfactorpod!
And here's where you can continue to find us:
Sadie Simpson: www.sadiesimpson.com or IG @sadiemsimpson
Naomi Katz: www.happyshapes.co or IG @happyshapesnaomi
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Satisfaction Factor, the podcast
where we explore how ditchingdiet culture makes our whole
lives more satisfying.
Welcome back one last time toSatisfaction Factor.
I'm Naomi Katz, an intuitiveeating and body image coach.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm Sadie Simpson, a group fitness instructor and a
personal trainer.
Before we dig into this week'sepisode, just a reminder.
If you'd like to support theshow, we have merch.
We have a handful of designs onTeePublic that can be printed
as stickers, t-shirts,sweatshirts, mugs, tote bags and
whatever else you like.
T-shirts and sweatshirts comeinto sizes up to 5X and you can
check that out at the link inour show notes.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Also just a reminder that if you are looking for some
support in your anti-diet andintuitive eating work, I've got
availability for all of mycoaching options.
You can get all the informationabout my one-to-one coaching or
my mindset reset calls, whichare individual pay what you can
calls or my 40 week groupcoaching program at my website,
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happyshapesco, and you can findall of those options under the
work with me tab.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Welcome to the 100th and final episode of
Satisfaction Factor.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh my, God, and final episode of Satisfaction Factor.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So weird to say that it totally is.
It is so weird.
It is hard to believe we havereached this milestone and it's
hard to say that it is going tobe our very last episode.
It's very bittersweet for bothof us.
I think Absolutely, and for thepast three years we've had such
a privilege of diving deep intomeaningful conversations, not
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only with each other, but withall of you and some really
amazing guests, about bodyliberation, rejecting diet
culture and finding satisfactionwith food and movement.
So today, as we celebrate thisbig, momentous occasion, we are
going to be reflecting on thisjourney and all of the amazing
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people who have been a part ofit, including every one of you.
So we're closing this chapterwith gratitude, with joy and
with so much love for thecommunity that we have built
over the last three years.
We have built over the lastthree years, so we're excited to
have you all join us one lasttime as we look back and share
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some of our biggest takeawaysand say goodbye in a way that
honors everything thatsatisfaction factor has been all
about.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So bittersweet, it's so bittersweet yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
So one of the big questions that folks have asked
us when they find out that weare wrapping up the podcast is
why are we ending it?
And I mean that's a very validquestion.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Such a valid question .
I'm super nosy.
I would want to know too.
Oh my God, Anytime I seesomebody like ending something
publicly, I'm like, ooh, why arethey ending it?
Sadly, there's nothing juicy tothis part.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, sadly for you, but good for us.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Right, exactly, sadly for listeners and lovers of
drama, but good for us, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Honestly, it's just time.
We've been doing this podcastfor three years and we feel like
we've really accomplished whatwe set out to do when we first
started.
Our goal was to have important,meaningful conversations about
how dishing, diet culture makesour whole lives more satisfying,
and we have had a lot of thoseconversations.
We have connected with a lot ofincredible guests that have
shared their stories and theirideas, and they've made a huge
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difference for us, so hopefully,they have made a huge
difference for all of ourlisteners too.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, absolutely I love.
I love how you put that toothat like we just we've
accomplished what, like it's.
We did what we wanted to do,and so that's, that's it.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
That feels like really cool.
Honestly like how often do youlike actually get to like see
something through that likechecks a box?
Like we all know, I like tocheck a box around here, like
like we started this thing andwe saw it through.
Like we all know, I like tocheck a box around here, like
like we started this thing andwe saw it through, until we're
like, okay, this is it, we aredone.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, absolutely, it has felt very good.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, so over these three years of doing the podcast
we've had lots of bigconversations and during that
time our lives and our work hasalso evolved.
So things have changed for bothof us in a lot of ways, I think
, and with those changes I feellike it became harder and harder
to make the time to record thispodcast and, like you and I
know this and maybe other folkswho have done something like a
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podcast understand this but Ithink a lot of people don't
realize how much time and energyit takes to create a podcast.
Truly, I mean, I definitely didnot know that going into this Me
either Me either, and I meanit's not just sitting down and
like pressing a button andrecording and talking, like it
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is a lot of planning, there is alot of editing, there is a lot
of marketing, which, if we'rebeing really honest, neither of
us really loved doing themarketing part, like the thought
of making like Instagram posts,like sometimes it just gives me
like, it just makes me cringe alittle bit.
It's what you have to do.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, and it's hard, especially because you and I
both have other social mediaaccounts that we have to be
managing and doing marketing forand stuff like that, and so it
just like I think neither of usever really fully had the energy
to devote to marketing thepodcast through especially
through social media and likethat's hard.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It's so hard.
I think that is a very accuratestatement.
So between all of that the wayour work is shifting, the way
our lives are shifting werealize that this just isn't
something that fits as easilyinto our lives anymore, and
that's okay.
We feel really good about theconversations that we've had and
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just the time and the work andthe love that we've put into
this podcast up until this point.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, absolutely so.
It's interesting A clientrecently brought up to me this
concept of intuitive ending.
What Right Like?
Basically just like knowingwhen you're ready to move on
from something and then honoringthat.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh my gosh, I love it .
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Right, Me too.
I had a little like like mindblown moment when she first said
it to me and because I'd neverreally thought about it that way
.
But I think that one that's anincredibly important skill and,
at least speaking for myself,definitely one that I could
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stand to work on more.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And so we all probably could, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I've been like I've been thinking about this ever
since she said it and just kindof like, huh, where does this
fit in my life in other ways?
And two, I think that's totallywhat this is Like, which means
that obviously there's like asadness to wrapping up this
three year project and all ofthat, but mostly it just feels
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really good and really right todo that right now.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, I love the idea of an intuitive ending and I
feel like that's definitelysomething I'll take with me into
other areas as well.
That is like the smartest thingI've ever heard.
I love it so much.
Agreed.
So, as we were preparing forthis episode, one of the things
that I thought might be fun isto share some stats and facts
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about the podcast, because ifyou're like a numbers person or
a stats person, it feels reallycool to know, like, who's
listening to the podcast andwhat are our most favorite and
most listened to and mostpopular episodes.
So I'm going to share some funand exciting facts about the
satisfaction factor.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I love this, by the way, because I would
occasionally check our stats,like during the course of the
podcast, but I mostly didn'tbecause I don't know.
I'm just like, not a numbersperson.
I like to live on vibes.
I need some data and somenumbers to back it up.
So like it's interestingbecause like I didn't even know
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most of these stats until I sawthem in the notes and it was.
I was excited about them, so Ihope everybody else is too.
That is so awesome.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So we have had listeners from six continents,
but none from Antarctica.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Oh, the penguins didn't want to listen to the
podcast.
They did not continents, butnone from Antarctica.
Oh, the penguins didn't want tolisten to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
81% of our listeners are from the United States, 4%
are from Canada, 3% are from theUK and the rest are like zero
to 2% are from 82 othercountries, 82 other countries.
Yeah, I don't know if this liketranslates on podcasts into
other languages, like I don'tknow how that works, but that's
so interesting.
Yeah, pretty cool.
A large percentage of ourlisteners are from western north
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carolina and other placesthroughout the state of north
carolina, which is cool becausethis is where we live.
I didn't go through like itnarrows it down by city or town
and like it was too much work tofigure that out, but there's a
lot of listeners from likeAsheville, candler, black
Mountain, swannanoa, marion,like anything.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
So like very local.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, very local, like Western North
Carolina listeners was a, I meanit was.
It was the top like cities andtowns for sure, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I really love that.
I love hearing that like we hada lot of reach, but that we
also had like a big impactlocally, like both of those
things feel really good.
Yeah, that feels really reallygood.
I agree.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Our top five most listened to episodes, in order
from fifth to first.
Are you ready for this?
I'm so ready for this.
All right, so our fifth mostpopular episode was episode
number 61.
What's wrong with the AmericanAcademy of Pediatric Guidelines
for Higher Weight Clients?
With Anna.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Lutz.
I love that that one did sowell despite the world's most
clunky title.
I love that that one did sowell, despite the world's most
clunky title.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
That was hard for me to say right now, but it was.
Yeah, that was.
That was a very well listenedto episode.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I feel like sometimes I did a decent job of titling
episodes and sometimes I wasjust like all the words go into
this title, that one needed alot of words.
But that episode was amazingand like a really important
topic too number four wasepisode number one.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Meet Naomi and Sadie.
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I wouldn't expect that to be up there.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I guess that's like whenever people first learn
about the podcast, they're justgonna listen to that first one,
which is kind of likeinteresting too to think back
about it, because three yearsago I mean, I'm still the same
person I was three years ago,but I felt like there's a lot
that I would have said more of,or maybe differently, in that
intro episode than I said threeyears ago.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
But anyway, yeah, same.
I also distinctly remember howlike nervous and awkward we both
were for that, and so, like,it's so funny to me that like,
like, even like this far insometimes, people are still
discovering the podcast and goto listen to that episode and
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just like how we have, howcomfortable we've gotten with
this, just knowing where westarted and that that's where
people are starting from.
It's fine, like.
I hope you all enjoy hearingthe growth.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I remember that first episode too.
I was planning on recordingthat episode.
My kid was like four, three anda half or four years old when
we first recorded that episodeand like I was planning on
recording it while he was likehaving nap time or tv time or
something and I got so nervousthat he was gonna like talk the
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whole time or need me the wholetime that I had.
We had to postpone recordingwhenever I could get my mom or
somebody to watch him because Icould not mentally record that
episode with my child in thehouse.
But like ever since then,pretty much every other episode,
he has been around in thebackground watching tv or
playing toys or whatever yeah,that's so funny.
Well, we also at some pointfigured out that, like just
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because you can hear him in thebackground doesn't mean I or our
listeners can hear him in thebackground and then also, I mean
I know that we know this nowand we knew this then, but like
we can always stop and edit andlike it doesn't have to be
perfect in real time, so but youjust kind of forget about that
too.
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Again, I was so nervous recording that first
episode and it was the samething I remember, like
essentially pep talking myselfof like it doesn't have to be
perfect, editing, like we'regoing to edit it, everything's
fine, but like it just felt sonew and big and all of that
stuff, and so it's just funnythat now it just feels so
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natural.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, speaking of editing too, I'm thinking back
on these.
First, like probably 25episodes, like the amount of
time I sat and focused on makingsure everything sounded so
perfect.
And now, like the last probably25 episodes, I'm like, oh, it's
fine, like I'll edit out likethe big things that need to be
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edited.
But if we say, um, and like,sorry, I'm not editing every
last one out, that's just who weare.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It.
Just, it is what it is.
Yeah, when I found out that youwere trying to edit out my
likes, which I say as fillerconstantly, it just blew my mind
, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
That didn't last very long, Fair, All right.
Our third most popular episodewas episode number two.
Diet culture is way more thanjust diets which that's?
A good episode.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
That is a really good episode.
I love that episode, andespecially as like an intro to
what the rest of the podcast isgoing to be Like.
I feel like it lays such a goodfoundation for this work, but
also for the podcast as a whole.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
Our second most popular episodeis episode 55.
What if I still want to loseweight?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, that's not surprising, no yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That was.
That's a good topic too, that alot of people probably like
everybody, can relate to at somepoint in time.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, I think that, like, honestly, the fact that
that's like the second mostlistened to episode speaks
volumes for how universal thatexperience is, even for people
doing intuitive eating andanti-diet work, and that, just
like if you're one of thosepeople, you're very much not
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alone Are we ready Our numberone most listened to episode.
If I could make a drum rollsound right now, the episode was
number 68.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
We need to talk about Ozempic and and we go be.
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I mean not surprising , unfortunate, I guess.
But um, but that's awesome andI love that that episode ended
up being so useful to people,because we are in an era right
now and, like just, I love thatpeople were able to find some of
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the information that they werelooking for there.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
All right, so let's talk a little bit about the
podcast like some of the highsand the lows and things like
that Okay, so let's start withthis.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
What has been your favorite thing about recording
the podcast?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Oh gosh, there's a lot of things I've really,
really, really enjoyed aboutrecording this podcast.
I love that we have gotten toknow each other, which has been
very fun, and we've also gottento meet a lot of really cool
people that we've just knownonline through social media.
But I think my most favoritething is just having a chance,
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having this platform, having aplace to have conversations that
people don't really get theopportunity to do so in other
settings.
A lot of people don't have acommunity or friends or networks
or whatever of people to talkto about a lot of the topics
that we've discussed on thepodcast, especially in real life
.
So having this outlet has beenreally important for me on a
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personal level because, ofcourse, like everybody else, I'm
still always learning and I'malways practicing some of this
work, but I think it's reallyimportant that we did this on a
community and on a culturallevel too, because it gives
other people out in the worldthe chance to have these
conversations too, even ifthey're just listening and maybe
talking back to, like theirheadphones or whatever that
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they're listening to.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, totally, I mean same, like completely same.
Getting to meet so many peoplehas been amazing, like obviously
including you, oh, of course,like we obviously knew each
other and were like friends likebefore this, but I feel like
we've really gotten to know eachother and to connect through
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this and like that's beenamazing.
Yes, it has been.
And yeah, like you know, a lotof our guests are people that
I've like been acquainted with,like you know, I know their
content and like stuff like inreal time, face to face, is like
a whole other level ofconnection and it has just been
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so nice and like so fun to getto do that with so many people.
And I also love having a placeto have these conversations,
like with more depth and morenuance than you can in a social
media caption or something Like.
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Honestly, even if I was going tojust write blogs about like
every topic that we covered, itwould be different Because, like
in this format, like I getfeedback and input from you,
which always makes me think ofthings differently, which is
awesome, which always makes methink of things differently,
which is awesome.
And I don't know like this workfeels really like one sided a
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lot of the time, or like you'reshouting into the void or
something, and it's just been sonice to have it feel
collaborative, like both betweenus and with the guests and with
our like private community andeven with like listeners and
stuff like like I don't know,it's just been really.
It's been a really nice dynamic.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, I totally agree it's been.
It's just been a very enjoyableexperience, like I feel like
we've learned a lot, we'vegotten a lot out of it, we've
gotten to meet a lot of verycool people.
It's just been really cool.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Absolutely Okay.
What has been the mostsurprising thing for you?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Other than the amount of like time, effort and work
recording a podcast takes.
I think, one of the mostsurprising things is that, out
of the hundred times we haverecorded an episode, we have
never had to re-record onebecause of like technology
issues, like forgetting to turnon a microphone, forgetting to
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hit record something happeningto the sound.
As this was coming out of mymouth, I'm literally like
pausing to look to make sureit's being recorded as we speak,
to make sure like I'm notmessing things up on the last
episode.
But yeah, that honestlysurprised me.
The minimal amount of techproblems that we had was very
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nice, yes absolutely agreed.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
like there was one episode I want to say it was
with Jesse Mundell where youended up having to do it
yourself because my computer waslike nope and like I couldn't
join the recording um and butother, but like it still was
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fine because you were able to doit, which like huge benefit of
co-hosting instead of hosting apodcast on your own, um, I think
that was the only time thatsomething like that happened.
Very unusual, I feel liketechnology is always interfering
.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yes, oh my gosh.
Well, on that specific episode,I remember after I recorded it,
cause you're usually the onethat hits the record button.
But I remember after I recordedit like I made notes and sticky
notes.
I'm like hit record, hit record, make sure to record it.
But after it was over I wentback to save it or something,
and I thought something hadhappened to my microphone, like
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maybe it wasn't plugged in orsomething.
I'm like, oh my God, we had aguest.
It didn't sound right, but thenit was fine.
So I thought, I don't know, itwas maybe I just got in my head
about it.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
But it ended up being fine, but I really thought that
I screwed that one up, but Idid not.
So, yeah, yeah, that's, that issurprising.
That is like legitimatelysurprising.
Well, speaking of guests, doyou have a favorite guest or a
topic that we have covered?
So I don't know if I can pick afavorite guest, because they've
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all been amazing.
Like I honestly I don't knowthat I can pick a favorite guest
, but I think that my favoritetopic that we've covered has
been the Ozempic stuff.
I was really really intimidatedby covering that at first.
Like we talked about this a tonis that like we had kind of been
getting requests to coverozempic and like we were both, I
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think, a little likeintimidated by it.
And yeah, and I for me, like Ihaven't done that kind of like
compiling data and reporting onresearch in a very long time,
like I, like I don't, like Ihaven't written a research paper
in decades, you know, like, andthat just it made me so nervous
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because it was also never myfavorite thing to do and you
know, I don't know that I'd wantto do it all the time, but I
actually really enjoyed doing ithere and I felt really really
good about the informative andlike nuanced conversation that I
think we ended up being able tohave, where we gave a lot of
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information, we made our stancesvery clear, but we also allowed
for like these drugs actuallyare really effective for what
they were originally created formanaging a1c.
They are like legitimate drugsto use for that and also like
holding space for the fact thatpeople might choose to engage
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with these drugs and that likebody autonomy is a thing, and so
just kind of being able to holda lot of sides to the
conversation while alsoproviding like what just the
actual facts and information are, made me feel really good.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, what about you?
Do you have a favorite guest ortopic?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I think my favorite topic slash episode that we
recorded was the episode aboutBeachbody's rebrand, like I felt
like that was such a funepisode because we really just
got to talk shit about Beachbodyand it just felt really, really
nice to do that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yes, oh, my God, I totally agree.
That one was so much fun andI'm remembering now is that the
episode where you like hadsecret notes so that you could
like spring stuff on me duringthe podcast.
Yeah, that was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Oh my gosh, that, yeah, that was a good one, but
gosh, we've had so many reallygood topics.
We've had amazing guests.
I don't have a favorite, like Ilove them all.
Everybody's been so great.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
They're all our children and we love them
equally.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I do feel, though, that it is very important that
just a few months ago, rightwhen we first started talking
about ending the podcast, we gotour very first one-star
negative review on Apple podcast, so that felt like a very
momentous occasion, a monumentalthing.
That happened because theyalways say, when you get haters,
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you're doing something right,so we got our first like
official hater on the podcast,so that means it's time, I guess
.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, oh, the timing of it was so funny too, because
it was literally like the weekwe decided that we were going to
wrap up the podcast and we wereboth kind of like, well, I
guess that's that's that here weare, there's our son.
If anybody's curious, it wasactually really funny.
The review was for our umepisode 88, which was oprah
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ozempic and the o word um, andwhat it said was this was
extremely painful to listen to.
Just the uneducated responsesand negative comments.
How are two adult, how are twoadult women not embarrassed to
show such idiocracy, which isamazing for so many reasons,
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like for one thing, I love howvague it is like what do you
mean by uneducated responses?
What negative comments?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
we are not negative people no, I feel like it was
very positively leaning episodeabsolutely.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And like I don't even know what uneducated responses
he's, this part I'm.
I say he, he.
This reads like a man to me butI have no way to know.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's fair, that's fair um.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
But my favorite part is that this person thinks
idiocracy is a word.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I don't know that idiocracy is or is not a word,
but it is not a word.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
It is the idiocracy is the name of a movie, it is
not a word.
The word is idiocy, and so Ijust, I just love it so much.
Honestly, if we enjoyedmarketing more, I honestly think
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that we could have gottenmultiple, multiple great new
taglines from this, yeah, fromthis comment.
We totally could have?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
we totally could have .
I mean, in all seriousness, ifyou are a new listener or if
you've been listening for awhile, the ratings, especially
the written reviews on applepodcasts, are amazing.
We appreciate every single oneof them, even like the.
The idiocracy ones give us alittle giggle, um.
But if you want to counter thatnegative rating and review,
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this podcast is going to liveforever, indefinitely, on apple
podcast.
So feel free to uh go.
Leave us a positive one tocounter the negative one.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Shameless plug for some some ratings and reviews
there absolutely, um, which I'mglad you brought that up,
because, as we wrap up here, wewant to just sort of let you
know, housekeeping wise.
Yes, episodes are not goinganywhere.
They're going to live on all ofyour favorite podcast platforms
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indefinitely.
We're not planning on takingthem down, so feel free to go
back and listen.
And, yeah, those will beavailable to you for as long as
the internet, as long as theinternet continues to internet.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yes, and that's the same for our Instagram page.
We are at satisfaction factorpod that our Instagram page will
exist as long as Instagram isaround.
So if you're listening to thisway down the road, or you've
been listening forever, you'realways welcome to come find us
on Instagram, leave a comment,send us a message, whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Absolutely, and, of course, we both individually are
online at various places whereyou can reach out to us as well,
and we would always love tohear from you.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, we'll be sure to link our Instagram handles
and websites in the show notesso you can reach out to us there
.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, but also let's just say them let's do it.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I'm currently on Instagram at Sadie M Simpson and
my website is sadiesimpsoncom.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
And I am at happy shapes, naomi, and my website is
happy shapesco, and just reallywant to emphasize that it's co,
not com, because that getsconfusing.
Okay, sadie, one last time.
What is satisfying for youright now?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I mean, I feel like the answer that I have to give
and that is also very true to myheart that I'm satisfied by our
podcast.
I feel like it has just been areally satisfying endeavor.
It has been fun, it has beenfulfilling, it has been just a
very cool experience and I'mglad we had the chance to do
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this.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yes, I feel like this is a cop-out, but that's
totally my satisfying thingright now, like obviously it is
right.
Yes, I think, yeah, like theI'm, I'm feeling very satisfied,
both about the podcast itselfand about how we're wrapping it
up.
Like, honestly, I am sosatisfied by the fact that, like
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we could have this like perfectstorm of, like third
anniversary, hundredth episode,final episode.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
That is super satisfying.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Right.
So satisfying, yes, it is.
I cannot think of any othertiming that would have felt
quite so like perfectly wrappedup, and so yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
it was some good timing there this ride with us.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
We have loved every minute of it and we appreciate
every one of you for listening,for the comments you've left,
for engaging with the podcast inall the different ways that
you've engaged with it, and thatis it for us.
Bye.
Welcome to Satisfaction Factor, the podcast
where we explore how ditchingdiet culture makes our whole
lives more satisfying.
Welcome back one last time toSatisfaction Factor.
I'm Naomi Katz, an intuitiveeating and body image coach.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm Sadie Simpson, a group fitness instructor and a
personal trainer.
Before we dig into this week'sepisode, just a reminder.
If you'd like to support theshow, we have merch.
We have a handful of designs onTeePublic that can be printed
as stickers, t-shirts,sweatshirts, mugs, tote bags and
whatever else you like.
T-shirts and sweatshirts comeinto sizes up to 5X and you can
check that out at the link inour show notes.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Also just a reminder that if you are looking for some
support in your anti-diet andintuitive eating work, I've got
availability for all of mycoaching options.
You can get all the informationabout my one-to-one coaching or
my mindset reset calls, whichare individual pay what you can
calls or my 40 week groupcoaching program at my website,
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happyshapesco, and you can findall of those options under the
work with me tab.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Welcome to the 100th and final episode of
Satisfaction Factor.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh my, God, and final episode of Satisfaction Factor.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So weird to say that it totally is.
It is so weird.
It is hard to believe we havereached this milestone and it's
hard to say that it is going tobe our very last episode.
It's very bittersweet for bothof us.
I think Absolutely, and for thepast three years we've had such
a privilege of diving deep intomeaningful conversations, not
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only with each other, but withall of you and some really
amazing guests, about bodyliberation, rejecting diet
culture and finding satisfactionwith food and movement.
So today, as we celebrate thisbig, momentous occasion, we are
going to be reflecting on thisjourney and all of the amazing
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people who have been a part ofit, including every one of you.
So we're closing this chapterwith gratitude, with joy and
with so much love for thecommunity that we have built
over the last three years.
We have built over the lastthree years, so we're excited to
have you all join us one lasttime as we look back and share
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some of our biggest takeawaysand say goodbye in a way that
honors everything thatsatisfaction factor has been all
about.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So bittersweet, it's so bittersweet yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
So one of the big questions that folks have asked
us when they find out that weare wrapping up the podcast is
why are we ending it?
And I mean that's a very validquestion.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Such a valid question .
I'm super nosy.
I would want to know too.
Oh my God, Anytime I seesomebody like ending something
publicly, I'm like, ooh, why arethey ending it?
Sadly, there's nothing juicy tothis part.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, sadly for you, but good for us.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Right, exactly, sadly for listeners and lovers of
drama, but good for us, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Honestly, it's just time.
We've been doing this podcastfor three years and we feel like
we've really accomplished whatwe set out to do when we first
started.
Our goal was to have important,meaningful conversations about
how dishing, diet culture makesour whole lives more satisfying,
and we have had a lot of thoseconversations.
We have connected with a lot ofincredible guests that have
shared their stories and theirideas, and they've made a huge
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difference for us, so hopefully,they have made a huge
difference for all of ourlisteners too.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, absolutely I love.
I love how you put that toothat like we just we've
accomplished what, like it's.
We did what we wanted to do,and so that's, that's it.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
That feels like really cool.
Honestly like how often do youlike actually get to like see
something through that likechecks a box?
Like we all know, I like tocheck a box around here, like
like we started this thing andwe saw it through.
Like we all know, I like tocheck a box around here, like
like we started this thing andwe saw it through, until we're
like, okay, this is it, we aredone.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, absolutely, it has felt very good.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, so over these three years of doing the podcast
we've had lots of bigconversations and during that
time our lives and our work hasalso evolved.
So things have changed for bothof us in a lot of ways, I think
, and with those changes I feellike it became harder and harder
to make the time to record thispodcast and, like you and I
know this and maybe other folkswho have done something like a
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podcast understand this but Ithink a lot of people don't
realize how much time and energyit takes to create a podcast.
Truly, I mean, I definitely didnot know that going into this Me
either Me either, and I meanit's not just sitting down and
like pressing a button andrecording and talking, like it
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is a lot of planning, there is alot of editing, there is a lot
of marketing, which, if we'rebeing really honest, neither of
us really loved doing themarketing part, like the thought
of making like Instagram posts,like sometimes it just gives me
like, it just makes me cringe alittle bit.
It's what you have to do.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, and it's hard, especially because you and I
both have other social mediaaccounts that we have to be
managing and doing marketing forand stuff like that, and so it
just like I think neither of usever really fully had the energy
to devote to marketing thepodcast through especially
through social media and likethat's hard.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It's so hard.
I think that is a very accuratestatement.
So between all of that the wayour work is shifting, the way
our lives are shifting werealize that this just isn't
something that fits as easilyinto our lives anymore, and
that's okay.
We feel really good about theconversations that we've had and
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just the time and the work andthe love that we've put into
this podcast up until this point.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, absolutely so.
It's interesting A clientrecently brought up to me this
concept of intuitive ending.
What Right Like?
Basically just like knowingwhen you're ready to move on
from something and then honoringthat.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh my gosh, I love it .
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Right, Me too.
I had a little like like mindblown moment when she first said
it to me and because I'd neverreally thought about it that way
.
But I think that one that's anincredibly important skill and,
at least speaking for myself,definitely one that I could
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stand to work on more.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And so we all probably could, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I've been like I've been thinking about this ever
since she said it and just kindof like, huh, where does this
fit in my life in other ways?
And two, I think that's totallywhat this is Like, which means
that obviously there's like asadness to wrapping up this
three year project and all ofthat, but mostly it just feels
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really good and really right todo that right now.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, I love the idea of an intuitive ending and I
feel like that's definitelysomething I'll take with me into
other areas as well.
That is like the smartest thingI've ever heard.
I love it so much.
Agreed.
So, as we were preparing forthis episode, one of the things
that I thought might be fun isto share some stats and facts
(07:36):
about the podcast, because ifyou're like a numbers person or
a stats person, it feels reallycool to know, like, who's
listening to the podcast andwhat are our most favorite and
most listened to and mostpopular episodes.
So I'm going to share some funand exciting facts about the
satisfaction factor.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I love this, by the way, because I would
occasionally check our stats,like during the course of the
podcast, but I mostly didn'tbecause I don't know.
I'm just like, not a numbersperson.
I like to live on vibes.
I need some data and somenumbers to back it up.
So like it's interestingbecause like I didn't even know
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most of these stats until I sawthem in the notes and it was.
I was excited about them, so Ihope everybody else is too.
That is so awesome.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So we have had listeners from six continents,
but none from Antarctica.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Oh, the penguins didn't want to listen to the
podcast.
They did not continents, butnone from Antarctica.
Oh, the penguins didn't want tolisten to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
81% of our listeners are from the United States, 4%
are from Canada, 3% are from theUK and the rest are like zero
to 2% are from 82 othercountries, 82 other countries.
Yeah, I don't know if this liketranslates on podcasts into
other languages, like I don'tknow how that works, but that's
so interesting.
Yeah, pretty cool.
A large percentage of ourlisteners are from western north
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carolina and other placesthroughout the state of north
carolina, which is cool becausethis is where we live.
I didn't go through like itnarrows it down by city or town
and like it was too much work tofigure that out, but there's a
lot of listeners from likeAsheville, candler, black
Mountain, swannanoa, marion,like anything.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
So like very local.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, very local, like Western North
Carolina listeners was a, I meanit was.
It was the top like cities andtowns for sure, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I really love that.
I love hearing that like we hada lot of reach, but that we
also had like a big impactlocally, like both of those
things feel really good.
Yeah, that feels really reallygood.
I agree.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Our top five most listened to episodes, in order
from fifth to first.
Are you ready for this?
I'm so ready for this.
All right, so our fifth mostpopular episode was episode
number 61.
What's wrong with the AmericanAcademy of Pediatric Guidelines
for Higher Weight Clients?
With Anna.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Lutz.
I love that that one did sowell despite the world's most
clunky title.
I love that that one did sowell, despite the world's most
clunky title.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
That was hard for me to say right now, but it was.
Yeah, that was.
That was a very well listenedto episode.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I feel like sometimes I did a decent job of titling
episodes and sometimes I wasjust like all the words go into
this title, that one needed alot of words.
But that episode was amazingand like a really important
topic too number four wasepisode number one.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Meet Naomi and Sadie.
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I wouldn't expect that to be up there.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I guess that's like whenever people first learn
about the podcast, they're justgonna listen to that first one,
which is kind of likeinteresting too to think back
about it, because three yearsago I mean, I'm still the same
person I was three years ago,but I felt like there's a lot
that I would have said more of,or maybe differently, in that
intro episode than I said threeyears ago.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
But anyway, yeah, same.
I also distinctly remember howlike nervous and awkward we both
were for that, and so, like,it's so funny to me that like,
like, even like this far insometimes, people are still
discovering the podcast and goto listen to that episode and
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just like how we have, howcomfortable we've gotten with
this, just knowing where westarted and that that's where
people are starting from.
It's fine, like.
I hope you all enjoy hearingthe growth.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I remember that first episode too.
I was planning on recordingthat episode.
My kid was like four, three anda half or four years old when
we first recorded that episodeand like I was planning on
recording it while he was likehaving nap time or tv time or
something and I got so nervousthat he was gonna like talk the
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whole time or need me the wholetime that I had.
We had to postpone recordingwhenever I could get my mom or
somebody to watch him because Icould not mentally record that
episode with my child in thehouse.
But like ever since then,pretty much every other episode,
he has been around in thebackground watching tv or
playing toys or whatever yeah,that's so funny.
Well, we also at some pointfigured out that, like just
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because you can hear him in thebackground doesn't mean I or our
listeners can hear him in thebackground and then also, I mean
I know that we know this nowand we knew this then, but like
we can always stop and edit andlike it doesn't have to be
perfect in real time, so but youjust kind of forget about that
too.
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Again, I was so nervous recording that first
episode and it was the samething I remember, like
essentially pep talking myselfof like it doesn't have to be
perfect, editing, like we'regoing to edit it, everything's
fine, but like it just felt sonew and big and all of that
stuff, and so it's just funnythat now it just feels so
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natural.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, speaking of editing too, I'm thinking back
on these.
First, like probably 25episodes, like the amount of
time I sat and focused on makingsure everything sounded so
perfect.
And now, like the last probably25 episodes, I'm like, oh, it's
fine, like I'll edit out likethe big things that need to be
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edited.
But if we say, um, and like,sorry, I'm not editing every
last one out, that's just who weare.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It.
Just, it is what it is.
Yeah, when I found out that youwere trying to edit out my
likes, which I say as fillerconstantly, it just blew my mind
, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
That didn't last very long, Fair, All right.
Our third most popular episodewas episode number two.
Diet culture is way more thanjust diets which that's?
A good episode.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
That is a really good episode.
I love that episode, andespecially as like an intro to
what the rest of the podcast isgoing to be Like.
I feel like it lays such a goodfoundation for this work, but
also for the podcast as a whole.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
Our second most popular episodeis episode 55.
What if I still want to loseweight?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, that's not surprising, no yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That was.
That's a good topic too, that alot of people probably like
everybody, can relate to at somepoint in time.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, I think that, like, honestly, the fact that
that's like the second mostlistened to episode speaks
volumes for how universal thatexperience is, even for people
doing intuitive eating andanti-diet work, and that, just
like if you're one of thosepeople, you're very much not
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alone Are we ready Our numberone most listened to episode.
If I could make a drum rollsound right now, the episode was
number 68.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
We need to talk about Ozempic and and we go be.
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I mean not surprising , unfortunate, I guess.
But um, but that's awesome andI love that that episode ended
up being so useful to people,because we are in an era right
now and, like just, I love thatpeople were able to find some of
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the information that they werelooking for there.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
All right, so let's talk a little bit about the
podcast like some of the highsand the lows and things like
that Okay, so let's start withthis.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
What has been your favorite thing about recording
the podcast?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Oh gosh, there's a lot of things I've really,
really, really enjoyed aboutrecording this podcast.
I love that we have gotten toknow each other, which has been
very fun, and we've also gottento meet a lot of really cool
people that we've just knownonline through social media.
But I think my most favoritething is just having a chance,
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having this platform, having aplace to have conversations that
people don't really get theopportunity to do so in other
settings.
A lot of people don't have acommunity or friends or networks
or whatever of people to talkto about a lot of the topics
that we've discussed on thepodcast, especially in real life
.
So having this outlet has beenreally important for me on a
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personal level because, ofcourse, like everybody else, I'm
still always learning and I'malways practicing some of this
work, but I think it's reallyimportant that we did this on a
community and on a culturallevel too, because it gives
other people out in the worldthe chance to have these
conversations too, even ifthey're just listening and maybe
talking back to, like theirheadphones or whatever that
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they're listening to.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, totally, I mean same, like completely same.
Getting to meet so many peoplehas been amazing, like obviously
including you, oh, of course,like we obviously knew each
other and were like friends likebefore this, but I feel like
we've really gotten to know eachother and to connect through
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this and like that's beenamazing.
Yes, it has been.
And yeah, like you know, a lotof our guests are people that
I've like been acquainted with,like you know, I know their
content and like stuff like inreal time, face to face, is like
a whole other level ofconnection and it has just been
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so nice and like so fun to getto do that with so many people.
And I also love having a placeto have these conversations,
like with more depth and morenuance than you can in a social
media caption or something Like.
(18:22):
Honestly, even if I was going tojust write blogs about like
every topic that we covered, itwould be different Because, like
in this format, like I getfeedback and input from you,
which always makes me think ofthings differently, which is
awesome, which always makes methink of things differently,
which is awesome.
And I don't know like this workfeels really like one sided a
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lot of the time, or like you'reshouting into the void or
something, and it's just been sonice to have it feel
collaborative, like both betweenus and with the guests and with
our like private community andeven with like listeners and
stuff like like I don't know,it's just been really.
It's been a really nice dynamic.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, I totally agree it's been.
It's just been a very enjoyableexperience, like I feel like
we've learned a lot, we'vegotten a lot out of it, we've
gotten to meet a lot of verycool people.
It's just been really cool.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Absolutely Okay.
What has been the mostsurprising thing for you?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Other than the amount of like time, effort and work
recording a podcast takes.
I think, one of the mostsurprising things is that, out
of the hundred times we haverecorded an episode, we have
never had to re-record onebecause of like technology
issues, like forgetting to turnon a microphone, forgetting to
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hit record something happeningto the sound.
As this was coming out of mymouth, I'm literally like
pausing to look to make sureit's being recorded as we speak,
to make sure like I'm notmessing things up on the last
episode.
But yeah, that honestlysurprised me.
The minimal amount of techproblems that we had was very
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nice, yes absolutely agreed.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
like there was one episode I want to say it was
with Jesse Mundell where youended up having to do it
yourself because my computer waslike nope and like I couldn't
join the recording um and butother, but like it still was
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fine because you were able to doit, which like huge benefit of
co-hosting instead of hosting apodcast on your own, um, I think
that was the only time thatsomething like that happened.
Very unusual, I feel liketechnology is always interfering
.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yes, oh my gosh.
Well, on that specific episode,I remember after I recorded it,
cause you're usually the onethat hits the record button.
But I remember after I recordedit like I made notes and sticky
notes.
I'm like hit record, hit record, make sure to record it.
But after it was over I wentback to save it or something,
and I thought something hadhappened to my microphone, like
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maybe it wasn't plugged in orsomething.
I'm like, oh my God, we had aguest.
It didn't sound right, but thenit was fine.
So I thought, I don't know, itwas maybe I just got in my head
about it.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
But it ended up being fine, but I really thought that
I screwed that one up, but Idid not.
So, yeah, yeah, that's, that issurprising.
That is like legitimatelysurprising.
Well, speaking of guests, doyou have a favorite guest or a
topic that we have covered?
So I don't know if I can pick afavorite guest, because they've
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all been amazing.
Like I honestly I don't knowthat I can pick a favorite guest
, but I think that my favoritetopic that we've covered has
been the Ozempic stuff.
I was really really intimidatedby covering that at first.
Like we talked about this a tonis that like we had kind of been
getting requests to coverozempic and like we were both, I
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think, a little likeintimidated by it.
And yeah, and I for me, like Ihaven't done that kind of like
compiling data and reporting onresearch in a very long time,
like I, like I don't, like Ihaven't written a research paper
in decades, you know, like, andthat just it made me so nervous
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because it was also never myfavorite thing to do and you
know, I don't know that I'd wantto do it all the time, but I
actually really enjoyed doing ithere and I felt really really
good about the informative andlike nuanced conversation that I
think we ended up being able tohave, where we gave a lot of
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information, we made our stancesvery clear, but we also allowed
for like these drugs actuallyare really effective for what
they were originally created formanaging a1c.
They are like legitimate drugsto use for that and also like
holding space for the fact thatpeople might choose to engage
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with these drugs and that likebody autonomy is a thing, and so
just kind of being able to holda lot of sides to the
conversation while alsoproviding like what just the
actual facts and information are, made me feel really good.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, what about you?
Do you have a favorite guest ortopic?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I think my favorite topic slash episode that we
recorded was the episode aboutBeachbody's rebrand, like I felt
like that was such a funepisode because we really just
got to talk shit about Beachbodyand it just felt really, really
nice to do that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yes, oh, my God, I totally agree.
That one was so much fun andI'm remembering now is that the
episode where you like hadsecret notes so that you could
like spring stuff on me duringthe podcast.
Yeah, that was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Oh my gosh, that, yeah, that was a good one, but
gosh, we've had so many reallygood topics.
We've had amazing guests.
I don't have a favorite, like Ilove them all.
Everybody's been so great.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
They're all our children and we love them
equally.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I do feel, though, that it is very important that
just a few months ago, rightwhen we first started talking
about ending the podcast, we gotour very first one-star
negative review on Apple podcast, so that felt like a very
momentous occasion, a monumentalthing.
That happened because theyalways say, when you get haters,
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you're doing something right,so we got our first like
official hater on the podcast,so that means it's time, I guess
.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, oh, the timing of it was so funny too, because
it was literally like the weekwe decided that we were going to
wrap up the podcast and we wereboth kind of like, well, I
guess that's that's that here weare, there's our son.
If anybody's curious, it wasactually really funny.
The review was for our umepisode 88, which was oprah
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ozempic and the o word um, andwhat it said was this was
extremely painful to listen to.
Just the uneducated responsesand negative comments.
How are two adult, how are twoadult women not embarrassed to
show such idiocracy, which isamazing for so many reasons,
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like for one thing, I love howvague it is like what do you
mean by uneducated responses?
What negative comments?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
we are not negative people no, I feel like it was
very positively leaning episodeabsolutely.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And like I don't even know what uneducated responses
he's, this part I'm.
I say he, he.
This reads like a man to me butI have no way to know.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's fair, that's fair um.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
But my favorite part is that this person thinks
idiocracy is a word.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I don't know that idiocracy is or is not a word,
but it is not a word.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
It is the idiocracy is the name of a movie, it is
not a word.
The word is idiocy, and so Ijust, I just love it so much.
Honestly, if we enjoyedmarketing more, I honestly think
(26:50):
that we could have gottenmultiple, multiple great new
taglines from this, yeah, fromthis comment.
We totally could have?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
we totally could have .
I mean, in all seriousness, ifyou are a new listener or if
you've been listening for awhile, the ratings, especially
the written reviews on applepodcasts, are amazing.
We appreciate every single oneof them, even like the.
The idiocracy ones give us alittle giggle, um.
But if you want to counter thatnegative rating and review,
(27:20):
this podcast is going to liveforever, indefinitely, on apple
podcast.
So feel free to uh go.
Leave us a positive one tocounter the negative one.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Shameless plug for some some ratings and reviews
there absolutely, um, which I'mglad you brought that up,
because, as we wrap up here, wewant to just sort of let you
know, housekeeping wise.
Yes, episodes are not goinganywhere.
They're going to live on all ofyour favorite podcast platforms
(27:49):
indefinitely.
We're not planning on takingthem down, so feel free to go
back and listen.
And, yeah, those will beavailable to you for as long as
the internet, as long as theinternet continues to internet.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yes, and that's the same for our Instagram page.
We are at satisfaction factorpod that our Instagram page will
exist as long as Instagram isaround.
So if you're listening to thisway down the road, or you've
been listening forever, you'realways welcome to come find us
on Instagram, leave a comment,send us a message, whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Absolutely, and, of course, we both individually are
online at various places whereyou can reach out to us as well,
and we would always love tohear from you.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, we'll be sure to link our Instagram handles
and websites in the show notesso you can reach out to us there
.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, but also let's just say them let's do it.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I'm currently on Instagram at Sadie M Simpson and
my website is sadiesimpsoncom.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
And I am at happy shapes, naomi, and my website is
happy shapesco, and just reallywant to emphasize that it's co,
not com, because that getsconfusing.
Okay, sadie, one last time.
What is satisfying for youright now?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I mean, I feel like the answer that I have to give
and that is also very true to myheart that I'm satisfied by our
podcast.
I feel like it has just been areally satisfying endeavor.
It has been fun, it has beenfulfilling, it has been just a
very cool experience and I'mglad we had the chance to do
(29:39):
this.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yes, I feel like this is a cop-out, but that's
totally my satisfying thingright now, like obviously it is
right.
Yes, I think, yeah, like theI'm, I'm feeling very satisfied,
both about the podcast itselfand about how we're wrapping it
up.
Like, honestly, I am sosatisfied by the fact that, like
(30:05):
we could have this like perfectstorm of, like third
anniversary, hundredth episode,final episode.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
That is super satisfying.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Right.
So satisfying, yes, it is.
I cannot think of any othertiming that would have felt
quite so like perfectly wrappedup, and so yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
it was some good timing there this ride with us.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
We have loved every minute of it and we appreciate
every one of you for listening,for the comments you've left,
for engaging with the podcast inall the different ways that
you've engaged with it, and thatis it for us.
Bye.
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