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March 16, 2025 57 mins

Discipline isn't punishment—it's the ultimate form of self-love. When you pull yourself out of bed at 4 AM while everyone else sleeps, you've discovered something more powerful than momentary comfort. You've connected to a compelling vision that drives you forward regardless of how you feel.

This transformative conversation explores how developing discipline through morning routines, consistent workouts, and sobriety builds the foundation for extraordinary living. Drawing from his journey from prison cell to successful entrepreneur, our guest reveals how these practices don't just improve your physical health—they fundamentally alter your mindset, energy, and ability to solve problems. Rather than seeing obstacles, you begin recognizing opportunities.

What makes this approach particularly powerful is understanding that the small daily decisions we make shape who we become. The person who drinks more water, reads consistently, and chooses the right relationships isn't just checking boxes—they're systematically building the life they want. These seemingly simple habits compound dramatically over time.

Most people struggle their entire lives with consistency because they're making decisions based on short-term comfort rather than long-term vision. The breakthrough comes when you shift from thinking about what feels good now to asking yourself: "Will I be proud of this decision at the end of the day?" This single question can transform how you approach everything from nutrition to business.

Ready to stop settling and start becoming someone you're genuinely proud of? This episode provides the blueprint for making that transformation a reality through discipline, clarity, and unwavering commitment to your highest potential.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The person that can pull themselves out of bed early
in the morning.
That person's found somethingpowerful, something more
important than that moment ofsleep and comfort.
First of all, you developdiscipline.
You develop and keep trust inyourself.
Because you're making thesepromises every day and you're
showing up so subconsciously,you start to become somebody who
believes in yourself.
And when you have confidenceand you believe in yourself, you

(00:22):
can do anything.
That's an act of self-love.
Discipline is an act ofself-love.
I want to leave everyconversation, every moment with
other people and either knowthat I provided value or dang
like that conversation thatsharpened me, like I'm a better
human being because of thatindividual.
At the end of the day, most ofus want to become someone we're
proud of.
To become someone we're proudof.

(00:52):
I just love sharing what'sworked for me in my life,
because I came from suchchallenging circumstances like
broken home, addiction, prison.
I've been through all of itright.
So the stuff I learned itdoesn't just sound cool or look
cool, it works.
Like the things I do I don't dothem for any other reason that
it's helped me to massivelychange my life and what I mean
is I'm happier.
I just I have more gratitudefor life.

(01:13):
I've been able to achieve theresults and the things I wanted
to achieve.
I'm no longer battlingaddiction.
I have 12 years of sobriety.
You know, I faced life inprison.
I overcame that and defied theodds there.
I mean, the statistics and allthis stuff are not in my favor.
So everything I've done atfirst it became like a tool that

(01:35):
helped me just to have someclarity or internal peace in
really dire circumstances, andthen over time, as I continue to
do it over and over and over,like I could see and feel myself
improve.
And so what I'm talking aboutis things like getting up early
and having a morning process.
Working out and sobriety areprobably the two biggest
superpowers that I developed andreally having faith that that

(01:55):
work and effort would amount tosomething special in my life.
And so when we're talking aboutbusiness like the same concepts
that apply to working onyourself translate into business
or we're talking aboutrelationships and raising
children the same concepts thatwe apply working on ourselves
apply in those areas as well.
In fact, if you're more fit andyou have more mastery over your

(02:16):
thoughts and daily routines,you're going to be a better
husband.
You're going to be a betterwife or parent, you're going to
be a better business owner,because it's all about having
control over yourself, havingbetter thoughts, better energy,
you know, coming into a room andbeing a leader, being a better
example Just all the attributeswe develop.
So how many of you I meanthere's a handful of you on this

(02:37):
call and I can't see everyoneDoes most everyone here like
know my background and my story?
Were you here when I, were youthere when I spoke at Austin?
By chance?
You just like raise a littlehand?
Okay, pretty much everyone.
Mike, you know my story right.
Yes, I was just talking with myson, mason, who's 14, the other
day.
He's my stepson technically,but I've been with him since

(02:58):
he's seven.
We're very close, and there'sfour things I shared with him
that I think apply to everyoneto be successful in life.
I want nothing more than to setmy children up to have the best
life possible, and so I sharedwith them.
You know, the first thing Itold them, if you want to be
successful in life, is startgetting up early in the morning
and go to the gym with me, andthat's one of the most important

(03:20):
, because when you get up early,at four or five o'clock in the
morning, like you're tired, youwant to sleep, it's dark out,
your body's just like tellingyou, your mind's telling you to
stay in bed.
It feels comfy and cozy.
The person that can pullthemselves out of bed early in
the morning, that person's foundsomething powerful, something

(03:40):
more important than that momentof sleep and comfort, and that's
the reason why they're gettingup.
That person has become veryclear on a why that's attached
to a compelling vision andthat's why they're getting out
of bed.
You know, the first two thingsthat we need to have in our life
to be successful long-term is aclear vision and a powerful why
that's going to drive us eachand every day, no matter what

(04:00):
we're facing, right.
And so a man or woman with apowerful and strong enough why
is always going to find a how.
The person that don't get towhere they want to go in life,
it's because they quit and giveup.
They second guess themselves,you know, or there's nothing
that's really pulling them,something that's really
important enough to keep goingin those tough times.
So that's the first component,right, getting up early like
that and then going to the gymlike you can.

(04:23):
You can detract from thatperson's action.
Like that person.
They're going somewhere, theythey figured something out, they
have an agenda, they're on sometype of mission.
Why else would they be doingthis Dude?
If I didn't know where I wasgoing in the future and it
wasn't important to me and Ididn't learn from my past
mistakes, I'd be sleeping in,I'd wake up and just eat
pancakes and chill, right, butthose decisions wouldn't get me

(04:43):
to where I want to go.
So then, going to the gym anddoing a very difficult,
challenging workout, I haven'tfound not one thing that even
comes close to being such apowerful catalyst in my life
that will sharpen me in a numberof ways.
Number one talk about disciplineand commitment.
Like that's one of the keypillars of success in our lives.

(05:05):
The person that cancontinuously do things that may
be difficult or challenging butwe know is good for us long-term
Like that person, is going toget somewhere in life.
How do you develop that type ofdiscipline?
Well, you do the difficultthings.
You do them consistently.
In order to do that, you haveto have that why and that vision
.
Right, because it makes senseIf I was just doing something

(05:26):
hard every day, like I used todo back in the day like climb
trees and carry logs and domanual labor.
Dude, that wasn't getting me towhere I wanted to go in life, so
it didn't make sense.
That's why people start to getresentful, they get jaded,
they're irritable, they're notbringing good energy into life
because those daily actionsdon't align to where they
actually want to go.
So for me, the gym's a tool,because I want to build my
physique up.
I know it's building my mindsetup, it's creating more energy,

(05:49):
it's helped me to purge thosenegative thoughts, and so
there's a lot of benefits fromthe gym.
First of all, you developdiscipline, you develop and keep
trust in yourself becauseyou're making these promises
every day and you're showing up.
So subconsciously you start tobecome somebody who believes in
yourself, and when you haveconfidence and you believe in
yourself, you can do anythingright.
Most people do the oppositethough.

(06:10):
They hit snooze, they skip thegym, and they do that every once
in a while.
They don't realize how damagingthat is to your subconscious
and your belief in yourself.
But then you're lifting heavyweight or running or sweating or
doing these difficult things inthe gym and at the end, result
of that difficult endeavor is asense of pride in who you are, a
sense of accomplishment.
What you're doing is you'reshowing yourself directly that

(06:32):
you love yourself, that you wantto become better.
You're investing time andenergy and doing these difficult
things to grow into this betterversion of yourself.
That's an act of self-love.
Discipline is an act ofself-love.
Okay, now, people that neglectthemselves.
They make the comfortable, easychoice now at a detriment of
who they're becoming later.
They do not love themselves.

(06:52):
They think thatpleasure-seeking behavior is
love.
It's not.
It's self-sabotage.
It's different.
They're wounded.
They're trying to numb the pain.
It's way different.
So a lot of what I teach, yeah,fitness is a catalyst, but a lot
of it is internal, it's mindset, because that's where it all
starts.
And so the thing about the gymas well, as each and every day
you can see and feel yourselfimprove, which is the coolest

(07:13):
thing.
Like a lot of times I go in thegym and I lift more weight for
like one extra rep or you know,uh, I do like 12 reps instead of
11 of a weight I'm normallydoing.
I'm like, wow, I'm a superiorversion of myself today than I
was yesterday and I cancontinuously do this, meaning
every day I show up here I canget a little bit better each and
every day, and you know, andthat compounds over time, um, so

(07:35):
, not just the physical thingsand the belief in yourself and
the discipline, but have youever woke up in the morning and
you're just met with a lot of,like negative thoughts or
stressful thoughts?
Right, if you own and operate abusiness, I can't tell you how
many times I've woke up and Ithink about the million things
on my checklist.
Or you know, it's a slow monthin business and we got expenses

(07:56):
and we got numbers, we got tohit, I got people to lead, and
all these thoughts.
I'm like, oh my gosh, likewhat's going on?
It must be a full moon orsomething right, like the energy
here is crazy.
And so I get my butt to the gymand I just put my headphones in
and I start crushing my workoutand suddenly what happens is I
start to see solutions to thoseproblems.

(08:17):
I woke up and I just couldfocus and think about the
problems.
And when I did that and thatwas my train of thought the next
thing I experienced is anxiety,stress.
Emotionally I'm distraught and Idon't like that feeling and I
definitely don't want to be thatway when my mom, my wife and
children wake up.
I definitely don't want to bethat way when I show up to lead
my team or create content.

(08:38):
I definitely don't want to bethat way when I'm on a sales
call, I'm not going to get theresult I want.
Most people go into their lifeas that lesser version of
themselves because they don'thave self-mastery, they don't
have recourse, they don't havecontrol over how they're
thinking and how they're feeling.
And so I go to the gym.
I crush my workout, like mylife depends on it.
I don't just go through themotions.

(08:59):
I've learned this the harder Iwork out in the gym, the more of
a benefit I'm going to getEmotionally, psychologically,
spiritually, my energy,everything about me.
The harder I work out, I got tosweat, I got to be breathing
hard.
I go to that gym for 45 minutesto an hour and I try to kill
myself in my workout, and thisis something prison taught me.
You guys, can you imagine wakingup in a jail cell, thinking

(09:21):
that you might never get out orthat you have five years left,
like?
I remember one day I woke upand I was 25 and I go wow, I got
five more of these, like fiveyears of being stuck in this
concrete box no wife, no kids,no loved ones.
They tell me what I eat, when Ieat, they tell me when I can
come out, and if you wake up inthat setting and you don't learn

(09:42):
how to control your thoughtsand your emotional state, you
want to literally kill yourselfLike it's torture.
And that's why guys get drugsin prison too, because you can
just numb yourself and check out.
Some people hang themselves,some people commit violence.
It's a really bad place.
And so I learned in jail that ifI had these routines like, the
first thing I would do is prayto God for guidance and strength

(10:02):
.
I'd think about all the good inmy life and create this
gratitude perspective and justpaint these pictures of what
life could be like if I didn'tquit and give up.
And then I'd work out and I'delevate myself.
Suddenly I was seeing solutionsto my problems.
Suddenly, in the midst of doingall those pushups and burpees
in my cell, I'd start to thinkabout the good in my life or
what could happen in the futureif I continued on this path.
I started thinking about howman prison is going to be an

(10:25):
asset for me one day, because,after going through this.
Nothing in life is going tophase me.
I talked to myself this way inthe midst of my workouts I would
paint these pictures of whatlife could be like that were so
optimistic and delusional thatno one would ever believe that
would become my life one day.
But because I painted thispicture, my self-talk was
aligned to those visions and Idid the work.

(10:46):
I'm living that life now, likebased on these things I'm
sharing with you.
So it's the same process fromeach and every day.
And when I go to the gym and Imight be stressed out or
overwhelmed, I start to seesolutions to all of my problems,
anything and everything you canimagine that's ailing me,
that's stressing me, that feelslike it's working against me.
Like, let's say, I'm evenhaving a slow month in business,

(11:07):
my overhead's so high and I gotto produce.
I got this team, this company,these people to take care of.
Instead of being stressed aboutthat, I suddenly start thinking
dude, I get to perform thismonth and I get to overcome this
challenge.
Like I get to be the guy thatpulls it off this month.
What an opportunity, what ablessing.
Like that's the stuff that wewant to share about one day.

(11:27):
That's the stuff that you hearpeople on stage talking about.
Not how, oh, everythinghappened easy and I started this
business that became successful.
No, it's all the stuff theywent through the struggle, the
adversity, the Rocky story, thehero's journey.
That's why we love those movies, because we can identify with
that.

(11:50):
So you know, a lot of it is notjust our self-talk and our
perspective, but doing thingseach and every day that elevate
your frequency in such a waywhere you can just naturally
start thinking this way.
It's really hard just to forceyourself to think this way.
If you're not feeling it,you're not going to believe it.
You know what I mean.
It's really hard, in the momentwhere you're anxious and
stressed, just to turn it off.
You can't.
That's why people drink, takepills, do what we do I don't
anymore, but what I used to do,and so now I found this whole

(12:11):
recourse, this whole set ofhabits and routines that can
essentially guarantee I willfeel and operate the way I want
to each and every day.
So I do it every day.
I do this stuff every day.
I leave the gym in the morningand I'm high on life.
I'm so optimistic, I have greatenergy, I feel so happy.
That's the man that I want tobe.
When my children and my wifewake up, I want to greet them

(12:33):
with so much love and positiveenergy that I just I imbue that
energy into them, like I couldsee it on my children's face,
man.
I could see it when my wife,you know, feels my love and
affection, and that's the mostimportant thing in the world to
me, because my family is mynumber one value.
I couldn't do that if I firstwasn't taking care of myself and
doing what I needed to do eachand every morning.

(12:54):
That's why I get up at four,that's why I have two hours by
myself when I'm not aroundanyone, so I can get myself
right.
So I go to sleep earlier.
I do whatever it takes to makesure that that routine is
concrete and non-negotiablebecause of how it impacts other
people over time right, and sothat's really like the core of

(13:14):
how I operate is starts in themorning.
It really sets the tone for myentire day.
Three other things I'll sharewith you real quick, and then
I'd love to just do some Q&A,because I know I'm saying a lot
of stuff and I want to serve youguys as best I can.
Second thing that I told my sonthe other day when he asked me
how do I be successful?
Right, number one was get upand go to the gym with me every
morning.
Number two was sobriety.
I said you're 14.

(13:41):
A lot of kids are going to betrying weed drinking.
There's parties and stuff.
I said that the person that canmaintain sobriety has an
advantage on the entire worldbecause they have an advantage
on themselves.
They will develop moreself-control, more emotional
control.
They will have more personaldevelopment and emotional and
mental maturity over time.
And this is what I believe too.
The moment I got sober, I couldhear God's voice in my life.
Before I was 23, I didn'treally know if there was a God.

(14:03):
I didn't really believe in God.
I'd gone to church my family'sCatholic.
I didn't identify with religion.
When the preachers talked Ididn't hear what they were
saying the Bible I just thoughtit was like a bunch of stories
that had been changed over timeand maybe that's true.
I don't need to question any ofthat anymore because I have a
personal relationship with Godthat derived from my own

(14:24):
conscience and my heart and soul, like when I sat in that jail
cell and I finally got sobrietyand I had to be really honest
with myself about my mistakes,my choices and what led me to
that cell.
I just looked back on a wholelife that I wasn't proud of and
I thought, man, I could havebeen someone so much different.
I was supposed to be different,I know who I'm supposed to be,
but I didn't show up as thatperson and it just it tortured

(14:46):
me.
You know the regret that I feltin that cell and I made a
commitment, you know, in thatmoment, that I was going to
dedicate my life to being thebest person I know I could ever
become, in every second andeverything that I do.
It was something internal.
It was this deep, internalcommitment and promise I made to
myself.
And so I got sober and, after acouple months of sobriety and
doing all my workouts andstarting to live in alignment

(15:08):
with that truth in my heart, youknow, I really felt God's
present in my life and thepresence was my conscience, man.
I realized like there's thisvoice that's getting stronger
inside of me that I've beenignoring for so long, and it was
always calling me to do theright thing, to make the right
change, like it was my roadmapin life.
How crazy is that I was likewow, all I have to do is listen
to this voice, trust in it, givemy best effort, all my faith,

(15:32):
all my courage, all myconviction, and it's always
leading me to go to betterplaces in life.
And from that moment forward, Istarted believing that God had
intervened in my life for apurpose.
It was divine intervention thatwas going to save me from an
accidental overdose, save mefrom a life of misery, get me
away from all those toxicrelationships and allow me to
live the life that I wassupposed to live.

(15:52):
And from that moment on, everymorning I say a prayer for
thanks, I ask for strength andguidance, and God has worked a
miracle in my life because I getthe answers directly from that
source and I feel it here.
You know, when you get athought that's pure and genuine
and real, you know that you'resupposed to act upon that
thought.
It's different than a craving.

(16:13):
It's different than our own ego.
It's different than what wewant.
Sometimes it's a difficultchoice.
Sometimes it's not what weactually want, right?
And I just committed my life totrusting that voice and
following that path.
And it's led me to this, whatI'm doing today.
I never would have been here ifI didn't get sober and I didn't
turn my life over to God.
So the reason I'm such anadvocate for sobriety number one

(16:35):
I had a lot of family membersdying overdose.
I had a lot of kids that I wentto high school with that we
went out and drinking andpartying and they went home and
accidentally took a pill or didsomething.
They didn't wake up Like.
I lost a lot of people on thisjourney.
I don't know how I made it tothis point, the amount of drugs
and alcohol I was putting in mybody.
Thank God fentanyl wasn't onthe streets back then.
Like I would not be here.

(16:57):
I would accidentally overdose athousand times because I was so
damaged and angry and upset andI hadn't let go of a lot of the
pain from my past.
So sobriety is it's personal tome because I see so many lives
ruined, but on the other end ofthe spectrum, not just like
escaping the misery of what thatlife has, but the person that
really wants to excel and exceedlife.

(17:18):
When you have a clear mind,when you are sober for long
periods of time, you connect onsuch a deeper and different
level when it comes to purpose,when it comes to creative ideas,
when it comes to seeing all theangles and the next, next moves
in your business, in your life.
It's incredible what happens.
So I'm an advocate for that.
For those reasons, the last twothings I shared with Mason and

(17:42):
this could apply to you guys tooI mean everything I'm sharing
but read, read books every month.
Like read a book every monthand really study it.
You know, I know a lot ofpeople are like I'm going to
read a hundred books this yearand I go okay, like are you
really going to absorb all thatinformation and apply it to your
life at a high level?
Like I'd rather read 10 booksthis year and study the F out of
them and absorb them andimplement them and teach them,

(18:03):
because that really becomesingrained into my thought
process, my belief system and Ican enact real change, you know.
So I sit down every morning, Iread 10 pages, I underline
sentences, I study them, I'mgetting in Google to research
certain facts and ideas that itsparked for me.
You know, um sending outmessages to people based on what
I'm reading, and then I'malways teaching it on my

(18:24):
coaching calls.
So every book I read isstrategic, whether it's mindset,
personal development, business,all this stuff, um.
But then I want to be like astudent.
You know what I mean.
I want to study the greats.
I want to study all thesepeople that have had success
past and present, and successleaves clues, right.
So reading should be a habitthat everyone has.

(18:45):
Don't just read to read and sayI read 52 books this year Cool,
like I want to see the resultsof what you've absorbed and
information you've got.
Last one I told Mason be carefulwho you spend your time with.
You know, the hardest thing toois like when you're changing.
People don't understand you andthey're going to judge you.
Chris, you might've experiencedthis.
You went from being a hundredpounds heavier and not doing

(19:07):
anything to now runningmarathons.
Sometimes that makes peoplekind of question you and you
might notice like old friendsstart to distance themselves,
even people at home.
Your spouse might go hey, whyare you losing all this weight?
Like I loved you the way youwere, like you got a side chick
or what Right?
They start tripping out alittle bit.
Sometimes I see this happen inrelationships.
So you know, be mindful of that.

(19:28):
You got to do what's right foryou and, over time, the people
that are supposed to be in yourlife are going to love you and
accept you.
But make sure and you're allhere in this mentorship so you
understand this be around peopleevery day that truly sharpen
you.
Like I want to leave everyconversation, every moment with
other people and either knowthat I provided value or dang
like that conversation thatsharpened me, like I'm a better

(19:51):
human being because of thatindividual.
And if we consistently do that,you know relationships are so
important.
The right relationships overtime will drastically change
your life Drastically.
The wrong relationships willdefinitely hold you back and
sabotage your potential.
So you know, this is somethingthat I talk about a lot.
It's mindset, it's personaldevelopment, it's habits.

(20:14):
I want to live the ultimatelife and I don't just want to
have a successful business, Idon't want to just be fit, I
don't just want to have a family, I want to live the ultimate
life and I want to seeeverything and everyone around
me thrive.
And so it's the mindset andhabits that make that possible.
Because if I'm not strong, ifI'm not dialed in, if I'm not in
alignment, I'm jeopardizingeverything else.
So what I'd like to do, like Idon't know how much more time we

(20:36):
have and I could ramble onforever, cause I just love these
types of discussions, but doesanybody have questions about
their daily routines, stuffthat's affecting you and maybe
your mindset or maybe yourhealth?
You know, like, maybe you justwant to lose a little weight?
Do you want to know what foodsto eat?
I'm an open book and you canask me anything and everything
right now and I'll provide asmuch of my opinion or guidance

(20:57):
as possible.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
So I guess I have a question.
When, especially when you'relike, let's say, working out,
I'm trying to find that routineand get into a rhythm or
whatever, just like everybody,I'm assuming you had days that,
like I'm not doing this, I can'tgo work out or whatever, for
the sake of like, just mentallyyou're not there.
Some days I'm sure you overcomeit, but then some days I'm

(21:19):
under the assumption that youdidn't go.
Like what?
What helps you overcome thatCause?
I mean, there's also probably alimit where you don't want to
disregard something that'sdeeper than the surface of oh I.
There's oh, I just don't wantto go to the gym today, or
there's something much deeperlevel of.
I need to address this beforeI've just continually pushed
this underground.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, I mean, you know you got to learn about
yourself.
Everyone's a little unique anddifferent.
What I would do in that momentis go.
Okay, number one, why don't Iwant to go to the gym?
Like what's really ailing me?
And whatever response comes uplike, ask yourself again why.
You know there's a book, Ibelieve it says Start With why.
When you ask yourself why, acouple of times over and over,
you can get to the root cause ofwhat's really affecting you.

(22:00):
But number two also askyourself okay, you know, based
on this decision, am I going tobe proud of myself at the end of
the day and is this the bestwoman that I want to be Like?
How does she make decisions?
How does she operate?

(22:21):
Because a lot of times, in thosemoments of resistance, there's
an opportunity for growth.
Most times, in order to get towhere we want to go in life, we
have to evolve into a differentperson, a person who thinks
differently, who has differenthabits.
That's the man or woman thatproduces those big, bad-ass
results we want in life.
So you got to understand like,okay, in this moment, am I just
making an excuse and being lazy,and is that the person that's
going to create the life I want.
You got to be able to connectthe dots and really like put it
in perspective.
That's what I do every day.
Even if I'm at the gym workingout and I'm like going to cut

(22:43):
out on a set early, I go likewell, when I look back on the
end of this day, am I going tobe proud of that decision?
Or would I be proud if I do anextra long set and make this
even that much harder for forwanting to tap out?
And that's what I said earlier,like when it comes to your
conscience, your conscience isunbiased.
It's always going to tell youthe truth about who you want to
be.
It's always going to give youthe right answer.

(23:03):
But if we're overwhelmed withstress and substances and all
this stuff, it's hard to havethat clarity.
Yeah, start with why.
By Simon Sinek.
So does that?
Does that help a little bit?

Speaker 2 (23:15):
It does.
Yeah, I'll just give an example, because a couple of years ago
I attempted.
My gym that I go to is abodybuilding gym, so seeing
everybody there doingbodybuilding.
I was like okay, at some point Ishould just try this myself,
because I'm seeing my friendsand other gym friends doing this
and it's hard work.
But I want to try thededication.
But after six weeks of prepwork, I was 100%.

(23:36):
I was like I can't do this, notso much for the work ethic, it
was just my mentality.
I was like I would still belike three months out from doing
an actual show and like mymental health is plummeting.
And so that's where I made thedecisions, like you know what?
I can't do this anymore.
Um and so, because there'sworking out.
But then there was trying toset this goal of accomplishing

(23:59):
something else.
I was like I this I can't do,you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
And that's extreme.
You know I don't likebodybuilding for that reason,
right there, Like when I workout, it's a personal thing for
me.
It's mental, it's spiritual,it's emotional, it's physical,
Like it's for my wellbeing, youknow.
And if then, if I'm juststarving myself and I have to do
this certain type of workoutand I have to get to this weight
it takes, you know I'm doing itfor the wrong reasons.

(24:24):
So I don't like bodybuilding.
I don't at all.
To be honest with you, I don'tlike the scene, I don't like the
energy there.
I just don't like it.
And I've had clients dobodybuilding stuff.
I mean, some of my team membersand coaches have competed in
the past.
Whitney Jones is the femalecoach for my company.
She's a three-time Miss Olympia.
Like she's incredible.
She did the.
I think it's like the sports orthe fitness category.

(24:47):
So hers is more almost likegymnastics intertwined with
physique.
She looks very fit, she is fit,but she's doing like cartwheels
and backflips and all thiscrazy stuff.
That's her thing.
But I don't like thebodybuilding scene and for that
reason, instead of just sayingokay, do you have kids or
anything?
Are you married?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I'm married, I don't have kids.
but I agree with you when itcomes to the bodybuilding thing,
because it's a toll, becausewhen you're with you, what
you're saying is like I'm on theother end of the spectrum, is
probably like I will drillmyself into the ground before I
back up and try to help.
My mentality versus you know,so it's for me is trying to find
that healthy balance and I'mgoing to be consistent with this

(25:28):
.
But also I've had to learn overthe past couple years to give
myself grace that I'm I'm notgoing in today, you know so'm
like on the opposite end.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
I feel like yeah, yeah, and let's say you had
already been training for likefive years and you were in
pretty damn good shape and youhad the consistency and the
habit, then you might look at itand go, okay, I'm going to use
this as a life experience justto develop more grit and
discipline.
I know it's not going to bepleasant, but I'm going to go
into it.
I just want the experience.
Like that's a differentattitude and perspective versus.

(25:57):
You know where you're at rightnow and, having gone through
that experience, you know, findreasons why it's important to
you.
If you're like okay, I want kidsin the future, I want to be as
healthy as possible.
When I get pregnant or havechildren, I want to be a good
example for them.
I want to know how to eat right, how to raise them the right
way, like that's a much moreprofound reason behind being
healthy and fit.

(26:17):
And with something like that,you're more likely to stick to
it long-term because, again, youknow why you're doing it and
it's important to you and itmakes sense, and you know, then
you might go to the gym three orfour times a week and you eat
pretty clean and you develop asustainable approach to your
health and fitness, which formost people is really important.
Like that's why 75 hard is good,but it backfires too, because

(26:39):
what do people do after that?
Like they don't know how to tofind that middle ground.
So I, what I teach people isnumber one.
I meet them where they're at,taking into consideration all
those factors that you and Ijust kind of discussed, and then
set them up on a plan that'sgoing to incrementally
strengthen them and build themup over time.
That's something that you'llstick to and that's sustainable,

(27:00):
versus just like oh, I'm goingto be a bodybuilder and do a
bodybuilding show in six months.
That's pretty extreme.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Right, no, and that's where I've learned is really
this year has been implementing.
Forget intensity, just beconsistent, cause I found
something that I love I loveboxing, I love Muay Thai and so
that's something that I'm justtrying to be consistent with
because I've noticed over yearsand years I've been an athletic
to an extent all my life and sojust calming myself down, like

(27:28):
it's okay not to be so intensethis day, let's just be
consistent.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, I love it.
I love it and you learn a lotabout yourself.
Just by trying things.
You learn what you like andwhat you don't like.
You know, one of the bestthings I think we could do is
just have an open mind and bewilling to try stuff.
So the fact that you tried thebodybuilding route is good,
because that taught you what youdon't like and it's helping you
to kind of find your process.
Okay, anybody else withspecific questions right now,
based on some of the stuff we'rechatting and we're discussing?

Speaker 4 (27:56):
I have a question for you, Sean.
You said something that reallystruck me.
You said that discipline is anact of self-love.
Can you share a little bit moreon your thoughts on that?

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, I mean, when you get to the end of your life,
you're not going to look backon all the times you gave in to
temptation and cravings and feelproud about that.
You're going to look back andbe like, damn, that's not who I
want to be.
That's what I believe, becauseI sat in a jail cell and all the
decisions I made that were likethat.
I regretted them At the end ofthe day, most of us want to
become someone we're proud of,you know, and so oftentimes, in

(28:28):
order to become that person,there's sacrifice involved,
there's commitments.
We have to do things that aredifficult, you know, like think
about the best marriage youcould ever have.
Is that easy?
No, it requires effort.
It's like challenging at times.
What about raising kids?
Is that easy?
No, it's difficult.
Like you get up in the middleof the night and change their
diaper.
Uh, you, you have to go pickthem up at school if they get in

(28:51):
trouble.
Like they have knuckleheadfriends, like there's all these
things.
What about building yourphysique if you want to be
somebody that's fit and in shape?
That's not easy either.
That requires challenge, it'schallenging, it requires
commitments and discipline.
Building a business same thing.
What if you want to become amillionaire or a billionaire
Frickin' hard right For mostpeople.
So what I've learned is all thestuff that we truly want, the

(29:13):
things that give us the most joy, fulfillment and gratitude in
life.
It comes at a cost, you know,and most people they're not
willing to pay the price, soinstead they settle, they make
excuses, they get into a habitof doing that and at the end of
their life they're not going tolook back and be happy that they
just settled.
Like.
Most people have massiveregrets on their life at the end

(29:33):
of their life and it's becauseof the way they live.
They didn't go after what theytruly wanted.
They settled, you know, and sowhen you are doing things that
are challenging and developingdiscipline, it's because, like
when you, when you want to bethe best and you want to go
after these results, like it'san act of self-love, not an act
of self-sabotage.
Did that answer it?
I can go on Well, like thinkabout this too with nutrition.

(29:57):
I think nutrition is one of thehardest things for people to
figure out as far as like eatinghealthy, because all the
unhealthy food tastes reallygood and it's addicting.
You know, new research has comeout and in fact in the 1960s,
you know, when tobacco wassuddenly demonized because it
had all this stuff that wascausing cancer, the individuals
that were running the tobaccocompanies, they started food

(30:18):
companies and initially they didit to diversify a little bit,
but then they saw how lucrativeit could be.
They took all their scientistsand researchers and started you
know what was it?
Nabisco, kraft Foods, all thesedifferent food companies and
their goal was to find anaddicting and create an
addicting food.
They didn't really, I don'tthink they knew how detrimental

(30:40):
it was going to be in societyover time, but they came up with
the right amount of fat, sugarand and sodium to create a
highly palatable food.
So, like these foods are veryaddicting.
It's addicting because you getthis dopamine release and and
like that process it's the samething as drugs.
So a lot of the guys, men andwomen I coach, the hardest thing
for them to do is change theireating because the food tastes

(31:04):
good, they're addicted to it.
And so the person that wants tolive the healthiest, longest
life and they have kids and theywant to be around for their
grandkids, you know it startswith first realizing, like dude,
you got to love yourself andinvest in yourself in order to
change, or in order to do hardthings or in order to make these
commitments.
The person that just eats allthis food for that little moment

(31:26):
of pleasure but then they dieearly and leave their loved ones
, like most people, don't wantto be that person, right?
So so the discipline is doingthe right thing, even though
it's hard, because you trulylove your family, you love
yourself, you want to be thebest long-term Like that's an
example, same with working out,like same with all the stuff
that we talked about.
You do the hard work becauseyou want to be the best, you

(31:49):
want to have the best results,and if you neglect yourself or
you make these poor choices, youdon't really love yourself
because of that.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
I have a follow-up question to this.
Actually, it's a little bitdeeper.
With everything that you wentthrough, I was just thinking
about how you're in jail andreflecting on all the bad
decisions that you've made howdid you get to a point of
forgiving yourself, givingyourself grace and learning to
love yourself?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, that's acceptance.
Acceptance and then doingthings every day that made me
feel proud of who I was.
So I had a lot of.
I never was a person that likehated myself or belittled myself
.
Even when I was struggling andpartying I was wild, like I
never looked down upon myself.

(32:36):
I was just doing what I wasdoing.
You know, I went to prison forsomething I didn't do first of
all, so I knew I was innocent.
The main thing I felt ashamedof and guilty about was just the
way I lived my life, because Iwas like damn dude, I could have
been so much better than thatmy life's over, and that's what
I showed the world.
I could have been so muchbetter than that my life's over,
and that's what I showed theworld Like.
That was the worst feeling,knowing that I was capable more.
But I just held myself back andI realized I had to forgive my

(32:59):
parents.
I had to let go of the past andfor the longest time I didn't
want to acknowledge that my lifehad actually been that way.
I wanted to just suppress it,numb myself out and try to move
on.
But until you really make peacewith stuff in the past, you
can't move on.
It's still going to internally,it's afflicting you.
You have emotional like baggagethat you're carrying around.

(33:20):
So I remember I realized it wasjust survival.
I knew that I wouldn't getthrough prison and, honestly,
the challenge I was facing inprison was bigger than anything
I'd ever come across in life.
So that got my attention.
So very quickly I was like allright, I forget my parents, the
past is the past.
I got to overcome this, likevery quickly I was able to move
on, whereas for 10 years Icouldn't.
I could not move on.

(33:40):
So it was acceptance first andforemost.
Like acceptance is so powerful,whether it's a past
relationship, our parents,ourselves, like we're not
perfect human beings.
We have to go through stuff andlearn hard lessons and that
shapes who we become in life.
But we're not born with thisultimate playbook as to how to
live the best life possible.

(34:01):
We have to learn as we go.
So one of our biggest flaws islike we get so mad and down on
ourselves about stuff and wecarry that internalized belief
around for years when fact we'rebrand new to the world.
As we go through theseexperiences, we grow and learn.
That's the way it's supposed tobe.
Um, so it was realizing that andthen every day, when I started

(34:23):
reading books, looking up wordsin the dictionary, working out
like when I was in my tinylittle cell, I was facing life
in prison.
I never came out 24 hours a day.
I had nothing but a couple ofrandom books, a pocket
dictionary and like some writingpaper and a little little
broken pencil, you know, andthat was all I had.
And so I just thought aboutwell, what can I do in the cell

(34:46):
every day to be productive?
Like, what can I do?
It was almost survival, becausejust to sit there and do
nothing all day like you startgoing crazy.
So I wanted to stay busy andstay active, so I'd work out a
bunch.
I would read those books.
And then I started coming acrossall these words that I didn't
know the definition or meaningof, and instead of just guessing

(35:06):
or assuming, I started lookingup words in my pocket dictionary
and before long I had likepages of words all over my cell
with the definition, the mannerof speech, and I started
memorizing them.
And then when I'd memorize them, I'd use them in my letters
back home.
I would use them in creative,like short stories and these
poems and stuff I startedwriting.
I would even use them on thephone calls and visitations I

(35:29):
was getting.
And so in a very short period oftime I felt, you know, I felt
my mind shift and change.
I was memorizing this stuff andmy memory was improving, my
speed of thought was improving,my vernacular and, like, the
verbiage I was using waschanging.
I was like, wow, I'm likechanging in a very short period
of time here, with justintentional effort, and that

(35:49):
really was a seed planted or abelief that formed.
Like, oh my gosh, I thought forthe longest time that I was
athletic and I was good insocial settings, but I just
thought I wasn't thatintelligent Like my cousins, my
uncle, some of my family membersjust seemed smarter than me and
I realized, no, I just hadn'tapplied myself at all in school.
And so in that moment Irealized I could change anything

(36:11):
and everything about me thatdoesn't serve me, that doesn't
align to who I want to be, andit was one of the most powerful
learning lessons of my life.
But you know what?
Here's another good way to lookat the discipline, the
self-love thing.
At the end of the day, whateveryou want to change in your life,
it can't be for anyone elseinitially but you.
When I started changing, I hadto do it for me because the pain

(36:34):
of not becoming the person Iwant to be no one else felt that
None of my friends thatconvinced me to hang out with
them.
You know my parents nobody thatlike I engaged with or spent
time with growing up.
They didn't feel my pain.
I was the person that felt it.
No one was sitting there inthat jail cell facing life in
prison.
I was and I realized like damn,okay, I talk to people all the

(36:54):
time that want to get sober fortheir kids, they want to get
healthier for their kids.
That's a great mentality.
I love that.
But the first thing that youhave to focus on and this is how
it lasts a lifetime you have todo it for you.
You have to be selfishinitially, because you want to
feel happy.
You want to feel happy, youwant to feel at peace, you want
to be the best version ofyourself.
It has to be 100% selfishBecause when it's something that

(37:15):
you want, that you have to have, you won't break those promises
, you won't sabotage yourself,you won't make excuses.
But I see so many people thatsay I'm going to get sober for
my family.
And then, a year later, theyrelapse Because, yeah, they love
their family, but like theywere still afflicted with
something internally, they werestill going through something
like it has to be for us.
So that's why discipline is anact of self-love, because you're

(37:38):
doing the work every day, nomatter what, because you want
the result, you want to be thebest, you want to feel that way
and then, by doing that in turn,everybody else in your life
wins, because you become abetter person.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Sean, how important is it to track daily habits,
track what we're eating andtrack, you know, our exercises.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, I think for a lot of people it helps,
especially when you're changingearly on.
You know, in business they say,like what you don't measure
won't change.
That's why people have KPIs andPNLs and stuff.
Same goes for your personaldevelopment.
It helps drastically if youtrack everything when you start.
That's why in our company wetrack everybody's workouts every
day, their daily blueprint,their nutrition, because then if

(38:16):
they are getting results or ifthey're not, the data provides
insight.
You know if somebody's notgetting the results and they're
like, oh, it's not working, andwe pull open the app, we're like
, dude, you only worked out twodays out of the last 50 days,
like what have you been doingRight?
And so people, when they seenumbers and they see data like
that, it helps them to make youknow it makes sense of what
they're doing.
Another reason why the bloodwork that we do with our clients

(38:40):
is so helpful because Dr J doesa deep dive into their
biomarkers over 220 biomarkerschecked and when they do, the
consultation with them like thisis what happened with me I saw
that one of my omega-6 countswas high.
I saw that I had a liver enzymethat was higher than it should
be.
I saw that I had.
You know, I had somethingcalled leaky gut.

(39:00):
My testosterone was lower thanit should be.
I'm like what the heck man?
I feel like a machine.
What's going on?
I've been working out, I'vebeen eating healthy.
How are these things comingback this way?
And these things coming backthis way?
And my cells weren't absorbingnutrients at the best of their
capacity, and so I found allthese little things that I could
change and tweak based on thedata.
The omega-6 count was highbecause I was eating granola and

(39:21):
I thought it was healthy.
It had seed oils in it.
My liver enzyme was due toprobably one of the pre-workouts
I was taking with a bunch ofartificial sweetener.
My leaky gut was due to glutenintolerance, which most people
have.
So, very quickly, because ofthe data, I changed a lot of
things that I was doing and itmade sense to me because I could
see clearly how it wasaffecting my health.

(39:41):
So that's how tracking andhaving data pertains to personal
development and health and howit can be.
You know the person that's likenoncommittal or has trouble
staying motivated.
It gives them a more clear whybehind what they're doing, and
that's really valuable.
And to touch on that too, chris, like people don't realize this

(40:06):
, but discipline with nutritionis I call it a seven figure
skillset the person that can bedisciplined with their nutrition
skillset, the person that canbe disciplined with their
nutrition it's very hard to dothat right that person can take
that mentality and that skillsetand apply that discipline to
every aspect of life.
And discipline with nutritionis one of the hardest things for
people to change.
So if you're having troublestaying focused at work, you're

(40:29):
having trouble at some at home,like it just transitions into
these other things very well.
And so I remember like I wasalways tracking my calories with
my fitness pal, cause it wouldshow me how much I was eating.
I was developing that skillset,but then I'd get to the point
where I'd be like I don't wantto be in my phone more, like I'm
in my phone all day for work.
I don't want to do one morething.
Another thing, and it's becauseI had the wrong mindset around

(40:49):
it.
I was looking at it as a choreor a task versus an invaluable
tool that I could utilize.
Right, like our cars, arevaluable tools.
They get us to where we want togo.
Our phones, if used in theintended and best ways possible.
They can create amazingoutcomes for us.
We can build businesses off ourphones.
We can reach people all overthe world, but if you're just on

(41:10):
there checking out TikTokvideos, wasting your life like
it, doesn't serve you right.
So it's the mentality behind it.
I realized, wow, I can track mycalories, get in the best shape
of my life.
I say I want to be the bestversion of myself.
This is a tool, it's an asset,and my whole perspective shifted
around it.
Now I do it every day.
It's on autopilot, pilot.

(41:33):
I don't think it overthink, ittakes me a couple minutes and it
leads to me being a healthier,more fit, better version of
myself.
Uh, any other specificquestions around anything?
Chris, are you on here?
Twice?
I see two, two of your.
One says cat booth.
My wife oh, is she on here?
Cool, good, yeah, you take herout and runs, or what you guys
running together she's uh, she'sdoing the peloton.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Oh nice, dude, that's awesome.
She's cycling yeah, she's beenvery supportive for me this last
year and and, uh, she's kind ofupset because I didn't even ask
her, sean, and I had a call, uh, last january and he said you
know, pull out your credit card.
And I didn't think twice aboutit, I signed up and and, uh, you
know we didn't really discussit, but uh, she, she saw my

(42:11):
growth within the first fewweeks and first few months and
has been very supportive and youknow, through that I found
Gathering the Kings and nowwe're both part of this group
together.
So it's been a great journeythis last year.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, I mean, that's a really good example.
Right there I'll joke with,like my guys, but I'm being
honest.
When people say like I need totalk to my wife, or should I
talk to my wife Nine out of 10times, no, you shouldn't.
And Chris is a perfect exampleof this and this goes for should
I ask my husband?
Should I ask my wife?
What I mean by that is we wantsupport, we want to be partners

(42:46):
in this journey.
But I'll use my life experiencefor example.
There's many times where I'veinvested tens of thousands of
dollars in like a mentorship orsome business endeavor or
whatever it is.
And if I had gone to my wifeand said, hey, do you think I
should give Andy Elliott $50,000?
She'd be like, what?
$50,000?
That's so much money.

(43:06):
Now to her growing up and herbelief system and stuff.
That's a lot of money.
But for me I'm already thinkinglike a freaking billionaire.
I've just trained myself.
I'm like 10 years ahead now.
You're just seeing me now, butI'm already 10 years ahead in my
mind.
How does that guy make decisionsand think, right, like, is he
worried about spending money orcan he see what the relationship

(43:27):
and the investment is going todo for himself and his life
going forward.
There's two types of thinkersin this world people that have
no limitations and people thatlive in a world of limitations.
Money is the number one thingthat triggers people to make
decisions based off limitations.
They get scared, there's fear,there's doubt, and I see this
happen all the time.
Where guys need to gethealthier, they want to change.
They see how working with usand Unstoppable is going to

(43:49):
level them up in their business.
There's all these reasons whyit's such a good investment and
decision.
But then they come and talk totheir wives and their wives like
Ooh, that's a lot of money.
You sure you want to do thatright now?
Like what if it doesn't workout?
Like what if you don't get theresult?
Well, what if there's alwayswhat ifs?
What if it does and itradically changes your life and
you become the best version ofyourself you could have been?

(44:10):
Most people don't think likethat.
So I say it jokingly.
I tell my guys like worst thingyou can do is go ask your wife
to invest in something and it'snot to be mean or rude, and I
say it to women too.
But it's because a lot ofpeople have limiting beliefs
that hold them back, andsometimes they'll impose those
limiting beliefs or that doubtonto the other person and all of

(44:30):
a sudden, they're operatingfrom fear.
If you operate from fear inlife, you'll never get what you
want.
I always ask myself, like, like,if money was not in this
equation, would I do this?
And nine out of 10 times it'slike yes, this is what I want to
do.
So I just do it, I do it, andI've done this over and over and
over.
I've invested in myself, mybusiness, you know.
I've put all the chips on thetable many times, calculated

(44:52):
risks, and it always comes backin a massive ROI.
And so that's the way I operate, and I know that most people
they need to shift their mindsetand make decisions based on who
they want to be, not the waythey've been making decisions,
because that's going to keepthem stuck as to who they've
been, and I got to facilitatethat.
So, as a coach, I have to havethat discussion with them on the

(45:13):
call in a way where it makessense, like with you, chris.
I guess it worked becauseyou're here.
So look at, wow, a hundredpounds down, running marathons,
changing your life, like I hopeyou've also, you know had a
positive effect on on on yourwife and, like your family, like
a healthier life for all ofthem, right, and that wouldn't
have happened Maybe if youthought about it or you waited,

(45:35):
it just wouldn't have, and Iknow that.
So everything I do is like, whenI talk to you, chris, or any
man that I work with, I thinkabout their wife, I think about
their children.
I act like that's my family,and who do I need to help Chris
become to give them the bestlife possible?
This is how personal what I dois to me.
I still remember all thosemoments growing up where I had

(45:55):
so much pain and tears andheartache around my parents and
the stuff that I didn't get toexperience or have that I needed
as a child.
So not only am I going to givemy wife and children the best
life possible, but I know thatpain so intimately that I want
to eradicate it from as manyfamilies as possible and not to
say, chris, you were bringingthat pain upon your family.
But I just know that if youbecome a superior, best version

(46:18):
of yourself, the beautiful lifethat you can create for them.
That's always in my mind and inmy heart when I'm talking to
people and I'm creating content.
It's that intentionality rightthere.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, before Unstoppable, I adjourned a
little bit, I worked out alittle bit.
You know I cut back my drinking, but it was never all
consistent at the same time.
And then I just, you know, madethat commitment on that phone
call and and I just saw thechange.
You know doing small dailyhabits every day.
You know writing every day,reading 10 pages, working out,
tracking my food and I like howyou preach about.
You know being sober, being thebest I've been, being the best

(46:51):
father.
You know it's not just aboutgetting in the gym and putting
on muscles, it's changing, youknow, your whole life.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah, yeah.
And there's three things thatreally help guys when they come
in the program and you just saidit, like you have a detailed
plan that you can follow.
That makes sense, that you canexecute for the long term.
Right, we have to have adetailed plan.
What workouts are you doingeach day, what time you working
out, what are you eating, like?
The more detail, the easier itis to follow the plan, and then

(47:17):
you can kind of justeffortlessly follow it, like
this is what I'm doing today.
Number two, though, is reallyimportant.
It's accountability and support.
If you don't have accountabilityand people that you admire,
that you respect, checking in onyou and pushing you, like,
eventually there's going to comea time where you give into an
excuse or you're tired or youdon't want to do it, and that
can become a habit in people'slives, so they're actually

(47:38):
consistently inconsistent, right, and they don't even realize it
.
Number three is the communityaspect.
We have a whole group of men,business owners, entrepreneurs
and, for the women, women whosupport each other.
They get on weekly calls,there's communication through
the app, and when you see otherpeople striving to reach the
goals that you want in life, oryou see their success stories or
maybe you hear them sharingabout something they're

(48:00):
struggling with that youidentify with.
Now you're a part of thisprocess that's so much different
than you just trying to gethealthier.
You just wanting to change.
Now you have, like this verydetailed, committed process
where you get in support andguidance and abundance, and
that's why our, our, our guys,our men and women are so
successful, because they haveall those elements.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
Five minutes left.
Um, good question that I havefor you is for the people that
are looking to make a change intheir nutrition what's the the
lowest hanging fruit that youwould offer for them to get
started with?

Speaker 1 (48:35):
As far as working with us, or just advice.
Just advice, yeah, I mean cutout processed foods.
I mean, if you could just stickto whole foods, then you're
going to be a healthier, betterversion of yourself.
You're going to feel moreenergy.
Over time, your cravings forcrappy food will go away.
You'll have more clarity, likethe food that we eat is so
important.
Did you know that 80% of yourimmune system is actually

(48:57):
located in your gut, in yourintestines, and 70% to 80% of
the neurotransmitters that yourbrain releases derive from the
gut?
So when you have this epidemicof people who are anxious and
depressed and mentallydistraught, it's because,
largely due to the foods thatwe're eating, they're poisoning
us.
40% of teenagers are reportedto have a mental health disorder

(49:21):
a diagnosis Teenagers 40%that's almost half.
Now they're on their phones alot.
There's a lot of issues, but alot of it has to do with this
crap food that people are eating.
If you go to the schools,they're feeding Doritos and
Sunny Delight and all this badfood, these foods that have dyes
in them.
These dyes, like they're linkedto things like cancer and
mental health disorders.
So cut out the processed foods.

(49:43):
Cut the processed foods out.
When I say whole foods.
Think about what you could find200 years ago on the planet,
300 years ago animal foods,right, beef, chicken, fish, eggs
, milk, you know, fruits,vegetables.
At first it's going to seemlike a super boring way to eat
if you've been eating all thistasty, highly processed food.

(50:06):
But over time your palatechanges, like your cravings for
certain foods, and it's going tolead to you losing weight,
having more energy, havingbetter mental health.
And not just that, but if youhave children, you're going to
be a better example for them andsetting them up for success.
So I mean for me.
I've been sober 13 years now.

(50:28):
I quit dessert three years ago.
I make these decisions in mylife because it's going to lead
to me being a better version ofmyself.
I don't sit around all day andthink, oh, I wish I could have
dessert.
I don't even crave it.
I don't think about it at all.
I love the way I feel.
I have so much energy, so muchclarity, so much gratitude, so
much fulfillment, and it's basedon making those decisions.
Remember earlier when I saiddiscipline is an act of

(50:49):
self-love.
That's what I mean.
I wouldn't feel the way I feeltoday if I didn't make those
decisions and follow throughwith discipline.
I wouldn't even be close and ifI truly want to be the best for
my family, the best coach, thebest speaker, it starts with me.
So yeah, the nutrition justwhole foods, man, whole foods is
going to be the best way.
And it's really hard to overeat, like chicken and rice, like

(51:18):
after eating chicken and ricefor lunch and maybe a little bit
more for dinner or whatever.
Like you don't crave more.
You crave more cheeseburgers,chili dogs, cake, ice cream,
soda, cause it's so addicting.
When you eat clean for a while,you stop having those cravings
to overeat.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
Last question I'll ask and I probably should have
started with this Today's theconfirmation hearing for RFK Jr.
I know that you had theopportunity to meet Mike.
Go ahead, man, I want to giveyou time.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
Oh, you're good.
I just was going to ask what'syour thoughts on TRT therapy?
And range and age in which youthink it's absolutely necessary
to do it, because I just got myblood work back and I'm at like
450.
Obviously, when you go to aplace like a TRT therapy place

(51:56):
to do the blood work, they'reautomatically like oh, you're
super low, you need to get onTRT.
I was like yeah, I'll thinkabout it, and left because I
know that their obviously maingoal is to sell it to me.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
So I guess.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
yeah, my question is like I'm 40, my level's at 450.
I think my mindset allows me togo harder than my testosterone
level, but I do?

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah, that's a good question.
I mean, I had mine checkedeight months ago and I was at
500.
And so I had a conversationwith my doctor.
Just like you, I felt amazing.
I'm super driven, I feel greatall the time.
You know, I had a good physique, low body fat.
I'm like dude, I'm in the bestshape of my life.
And he goes.
Trt is not just for yourphysicality.
In fact it has more to do withhow your cells function and your

(52:42):
cognition.
So when your hormones are notoptimized, your cells cannot
fully absorb nutrients properly.
Hormones are the gatekeepersfor your cells and how they
function.
For men, predominantly, it'stestosterone, for women it's
progesterone, a little bit oftestosterone as well, and so for
women too.
I had my wife's blood checkedand her progesterone was super

(53:02):
low and that correlates withhigh stress, anxiety, a little
bit of mental health stuff.
Women's hormones are morecomplex.
I mean, they have their cycleand then then they have babies
too.
My wife had two in a row, soher stuff was all over the place
.
And Dr J is like dude if herhormones are optimized she'll
feel just so much happier everyday, so much more at ease, and

(53:23):
same with men.
So if you're talking about, likelongevity.
If your TRT is optimized,you're less likely to get cancer
, less likely to have thingslike dementia.
Your cognition is not going todecline as you get older and
nowadays most people'stestosterone is super low, like
between two and 500.
It's supposed to be between 900and 1200 for optimization.

(53:45):
So once I figured that out andI learned why that it wasn't
just about building muscle andlosing weight I started TRT
eight months ago and I noticedan immediate improvement in just
all these little things in mylife sleep, mental clarity and
focus.
I did get stronger in the gym.
I feel amazing in the gym, butjust you feel optimized that's

(54:06):
the best way to put it.
So I'm an advocate for itbecause I understand why it
affects you, how it affects you,how important hormones are for
our overall wellbeing, andthat's one of the things that we
provide for our clients.
We provide supplements the bestquality supplements that you
can get from a pharmacy Dr Jsources them from, not the stuff
at GNC in these stores, becauseit's super low quality, not

(54:28):
regulated by the FDA.
Peptides which are really goodfor optimizing your health.
Gut health like.
That's how I fixed my leaky gutand reduced all this pain and
inflammation throughout my body,and then things like hormonal
replacement therapy for men andwomen.
So for me, like I want to liveto be 200 years old and that's
not a joke I'm doing everythingI can now.
I'm going to do stem cells.

(54:48):
I'm going to do everythingthat's cutting edge, that they
don't tell you to do in thetraditional doctors, cause they
just want to give you a pill, apharmaceutical pill, so they can
make money off you.
I'm going to do everything andanything I can to have the
healthiest, best quality lifebecause, dude, I'm on a mission.
I want to literally make amassive impact on the world.
I need more than a hundredyears, I need 200 years.

(55:08):
Man, I got a late start.
I didn't get out of prisonuntil I was 30.
So I got time to.
I got to make up for lost time,but, yeah, I'm a strong
advocate for it.
We provide TRT for, I think,$150 a month for our clients.
So some clinics, it's like $300.
Um, we do a test for 75 bucks,see where you're at and then
provide you with the proper dosefor 150 a month, I think, and

(55:32):
then provide you with the properdose for 150 a month, I think,
and there's a noticeabledifference in how you feel and
operate.
So yeah, that's that.
What were you going to sayabout RFK2?
I know today's his day where hegot confirmed.
I'm fired up.
I see a lot of good changestaking place.
I think that's one of the mostimportant ones Informing people

(55:53):
about health and how to reallywhat they can do at home with
their nutrition, just habits tolive healthier, better lives
without relying onpharmaceuticals and having that
stuff pushed on us.
So I'm fired up, man.
I just want everyone to win inlife and have the right
information to do so.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
Yeah, my question was going to be like how excited
are you that voices like RFK areback in the national spotlight,
highlighting the importance ofthe health and nutrition and
some of the systematic thingsthat have been put in place that
need to be taken away?

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Yeah, I feel like we have somebody in charge who
actually cares and has commonfucking sense, versus people
that just want to make money offus.
They don't care if your kidsget sick and die, they benefit
from it.
It's a really corrupt systemthat's taking place and I'm
excited.
I mean, I met him.
I heard him speak.
He said I do the same thingevery day.
I get up, I hit my knees andpray to god for another chance

(56:43):
to change this epidemic in ourcountry and save these sick
children.
I go to an aa meeting and Iwork out.
I do that every day.
I was like dude, that's my dude, right there.
Right, he's been through somestuff.
So those are the people thatusually become the best leaders
and they're the most genuine.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
Awesome, Sean.
We appreciate your time so much.
I know that we've got you onthe schedule for later on this
year as well, but justappreciate what you and Dr J are
building at Unstoppable 365 andexcited yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Thank you for having me here.
I hope that it was valuable foryou guys and everybody.
Have a great rest of your day,thanks.
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