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November 5, 2025 63 mins

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Welcome to Season 5, Episode 14, of "Secondhand Talent: The Podcast"!!! We're so happy we're here and so, so incredibly grateful for all of your love and support along the way. On behalf of all of us here at Secondhand Talent, Steiner & Steener - WE LOVE YOU, FRANDS!!!

This week we have the pleasure of releasing to you our interview with producers extraordinaire, multimedia artists and founders of the musical project "R34L" - Cason Traeger & Sarah Hartman!!! 

In this episode, Cason and Sarah explore the evolution of their band R34L, discussing their creative processes, the impact of the pandemic on their music, and the significance of collaboration in their artistic journey. 

They delve into the making of their new album, 'Falling in Place,' and reflect on the challenges and growth experienced during their musical careers. The discussion highlights the importance of live performances and the integration of technology in modern music production, showcasing the dynamic relationship between art and music.

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With "Secondhand Talent", we want to devote a platform to taking moments to shine the spotlight on those that manage the spotlights. We want to use this platform to highlight some of our incredible colleagues in the industry whose names you might otherwise never hear. Thank you for joining us - come along, stay a while!

We're so happy we're here and so, so incredibly grateful for all of your love and support along the way. On behalf of all of us here at Secondhand Talent, Steiner & Steener - WE LOVE YOU, FRANDS!!!

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Chapters

00:00 Opening Credits
00:28 Introduction to Secondhand Talent
02:22 Unpacking "Secondhand Talent" with R34L
06:40 Creative Beginnings: Art and Music Origins
10:36 The Journey into Music Production
16:29 Forming R34L: A Collaborative Vision
19:53 Musical Beginnings and Collaborations
22:52 Production Skills and Growth
28:54 The Formation of R34L
34:56 Navigating Technology and Learning Curves
40:54 Impact of the Pandemic on Creativity
46:52 Returning to Live Performances and Future Goals
52:23 Evolving Musical Processes Post-COVID
54:40 The Art of Live Performance and Improvisation
59:12 Introducing 'Falling in Place' - The New Album

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