20 Mountains 200 Miles: Raising Awareness for Veteran Suicide

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Join host Deny Caballero and special guest Liam Cogan as they take you on a thought-provoking and humorous journey through the world of veteran mental health, survival challenges, and endurance sports. This episode blends dark comedy and heartfelt advocacy as the duo recounts their preparation for an extreme endurance event designed to raise awareness for veteran suicide prevention.

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 00:00 Introduction to the Challenge

03:11 Veteran Awareness and Support

06:03 Training for the Challenge

08:59 Reflections on Military Service and History

11:47 Cultural Commentary and Humor

14:49 The Role of Media and Celebrity in Events

17:52 Final Thoughts and Future Aspirations

24:54 Nostalgic Comedy and Adult Swim Classics

27:20 Conspiracy Theories and Biblical Stories

29:14 Diving Fears and Whale Encounters

32:30 Bear Encounters and Survival Stories

37:04 The Revenant and Real-Life Bear Attacks

42:11 Historical Expeditions and the Donner Party

45:51 The Harsh Realities of Survival

48:22 The Economics of Endurance Events

50:29 Training for Ultra-Endurance Challenges

53:22 Body Image and Fitness Culture

57:29 The Humor in Fitness and Movies

01:03:06 Supporting Veterans Through Endurance Events

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
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together a team of eliteathletes.
I want to suck.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Team of elite athletes Together In a world
where soft guys are actuallyelite athletes.
Dude, I watched um, I'm sorryI'm sidetracking already, but I
watched uh what is what we do.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's what we do.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's um the movie about god damn it uh, the prison
off san francisco in the bay.
What is that?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
oh, oh, um the rock, yes, rock dude the rock.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I love that sean connery in any movie he's ever
been in, just doesn't do anaccent at all like you know like
his character is always someonelike.
They always make him like arussian guy or a fucking.
He's like ex-ukrainian specialforces.
And then he comes in.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
He's like dude in highlander.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
In highlander he plays a spaniard and he uses the
same fucking accent, thefucking ultimate, and you're
rushing it.
It's like who's that thespaniard?
His character's always got likesome stupid ass.

(01:57):
Like they have to write in areason for his character every
time to talk the way he does.
It's just just like oh, that'sthe Spaniard.
And then, in passing, you knowthey just added a paragraph and
they're just like oh yeah hespends a lot of time in the IRA.
He was in the Irish RepublicanArmy and he's Scottish and he's

(02:17):
the Spaniard.
Though he's the Spaniard, justfucking go with it.
Got it, got it, got it, got it,wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Liam Cogan welcomes you to our podcast brother.
Oh man, dude, you got somegreat shit going on right now.
Dude, let's talk about thisdude 20 mountains, 200 miles.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, it's like the mountain part is just like to
keep the name phonetically, likepleasing, but really I mean
realistically.
So the run is 220 miles.
It's over 20 mountains, soabove 20 mountains like many
more, 40,000 feet of elevationgain and we're carrying 22
pounds on our backs to representcarrying the burden of 22

(03:03):
veteran suicides every day.
22 pounds on our backs torepresent carrying the burden of
22 veteran suicides every day,trying to spread awareness.
You know, keeping the Americancivilian population engaged in
the GWAT veteran right.
One thing that I end upexplaining to a lot of people is
, like you have kind of thisgreat disparity between how we

(03:25):
treated Vietnam vets and how wetreat GWAT era veterans, where
Vietnam vets obviously, like weall know it's in movies, it's
been popularized, everyone knowsthat they got treated like
garbage, which was horrendous,and we haven't done that to our
veterans since.
Now veterans have gotten tiedup in issues.
We got this stuff going on inLA right now.

(03:45):
Sure, right, but there's alwaysbeen the sentiment that like
we'll never go that far again.
You know, we'll never havethese kids who were torn out of
high school, who did things fortheir country because they were
told to, they had to, and thencome back and have them get spit
in their faces.
But you look at the numbers andcurrently the GWAT veteran is

(04:06):
suffering in a differentpsychological war and the
numbers have increased 50% formale veterans, 90% for female
veterans.
And we're losing veterans forreasons of loss of community,
very simple things like TBI PTSD.
We still don't know how totreat it, what to do, and

(04:29):
unbelievably finance.
So the number two reason forveteran suicide and the number
one reason for divorce isfinance.
The number three reason forveteran suicide is familial
relationship deterioration.
So you're just dealing withloss of family and disconnect,
and so you really kind of boiledthese things down to finance.
And that's what my nonprofit isdoing is we're focusing on not

(04:53):
the finance bro side of things,but how do we give veterans the
benefits that they earned andwere designed to facilitate a
soft landing financially since1939, right, like we've had
these benefits, we've had thesetools.
It's proven to work.
We've just kind of lost our wayand I end up explaining this to

(05:13):
people and just saying like itis a remarkably easy issue to
solve when you compare it to TBIPTSD.
Right, I mean, that's alifelong endeavor, everyone
who's in the field and doing thework.
I appreciate you more thanyou'll ever know.
You know, trying to getIbogaine passed by lobbyists,
politics and all that kind ofstuff, it takes money, time,

(05:33):
effort, and then you really, andthen you got to work with a
veteran, right.
So there's a ton of effortthere and what we're trying to
do is kind of take a littlesecond and shift our focus on
this, this easy win, this easywin.
So do something hard, you know,earn the notoriety, earn the
benefit and, um, we're going toget out there and just go after

(05:53):
it.
Uh, it's going to be a meatgrinder.
You know what I mean.
You're looking at 50 plus milesa day, plus 10,000 feet of
elevation.
Gain a day, uh, with a ruck onyour back.
But that's how you, you know,that's how you keep people
engaged.
That's that's what I have tooffer.
Unfortunately, dudes like us,that's what, that's what we have
to give is.
You know, dude, I'm going tothrow it down, I'm going to

(06:15):
destroy my body.
It's all I know how to do.
So you know you want me to runa Usain Bolt.
You know a hundred meter dashcan't do it, but um, I can ruck
up and just grind my body intodust.
So here we go.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Absolutely, man.
I think a lot of us arestarting to see that that it's
an avenue to get attention.
Do you have a media team on theground following you?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
So we're we're trying to give everyone access to the
meat, like to media sources,social sources, while we're
there.
So athletes will be able tokind of record their experience
and it'll all go on to the samechannel, things like that.
But you know, being our firstyear, I'm completely self-funded
.
So, um, and this is for you,irs, when you start looking at

(07:03):
my shit it's like I am losingmoney.
Okay, I don't want to hear it.
You know, I've been pouringmoney into this effort for years
now and we're finally at theposition where it's like I feel
comfortable to say let's put onthis event, let's ask for
donations, let's turn the lightson and get it moving.
But no, so year one we won'thave a concerted media team,

(07:25):
unfortunately, but hopefullythrough individual efforts.
You know we're going to giveguys cameras and we'll have, you
know, local wives and we have agreat SEAL community out here
who's going to help support.
We'll have enough film andfootage to kind of like bring
that into year two and maybebring some elevated energy into
year two.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Fuck yeah, man.
Um, what's been, what's beenyour training plan for this?
It's a lot of miles, it's a lotof elevation.
Yeah, so I tried doing.
I tried doing an uh my first uhevent, raw dog and let me tell
you it was not fun.
That's why.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I'm coming back for you too.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I'll be like, oh fuck , yeah, dude, I got hurt like
month three and it was like allright, this is going to stop,
and it was like I'm not going toshow up.
But now you're number two,brother, I'm coming back and I'm
telling you I'm going to finishthis thing, I've got a training
plan, I'm going to finish thisthing, I've got a training plan.
I'm coming in hard I'm coming.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Pretty hard, pretty hard, dude.
No, my run I did last year.
So we did like a two and a half.
I think it was like a threemile swim, I don't know.
It kept like changing day of.
It was like the water temp is alittle high so we're worried
about you know what we're goingto be able to get away with.
But uh, we did like a threemile ish swim and then a 45

(08:49):
pound ruck for 50 miles and didthat last year.
My training plan was basicallylike I got shotgun with it too.
It was like, bro, can you comeout and like hit this thing?
I was like definitely.
Um, so I had about a month toget ready for that one and I was
not running, so that was tough.
But uh, my training plan isreally easy.
It's just like minimum, everyday, run an hour and every week

(09:12):
do something hard.
Um, so like I always run anhour.
I live in the mountains, so I'mat elevation.
You know I'm sitting at five,five and every morning I get up
to like six, five and my runsaren't that far.
You know, unfortunately, likewhen you look at all the
influencers and shit, it's likethey're running and I'm.

(09:33):
I'm not talking down on them.
I'm just saying like they'rerunning flat ground, so they're
like training reps.
It's like 10 miles every dayand they're running like six to
seven minute miles.
It's like dude, that's that'sso hitter, like that's sick.
I can't do that.
I weigh like two, 45 right nowand, uh, I'm running in the
mountains.
I'm way too heavy.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Way too heavy.
Yeah, I realized I'm in thesame boat, dude I, I.
I want some, uh, some, someexpensive supplements.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
And uh they work.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Shout out to youan sucks, they fucking work.
Dude, I have uh, yeah, I amvery happy and pleased with uh,
my wife uh cheering me on sayingI have got some, some good guns
these days, but uh, I'm gonnasay a boat dude like I gotta
realize that if I want to dolong distant runs and runs and

(10:25):
long-distance rocks, I got tothrottle back on the
pharmaceuticals Damn.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's nothing illegal.
Well, dude, that's what it endsup being too.
Is you're like I feel thatweight in these miles?
You know, like my buddy said it, it best.
I showed up to his farm acouple years ago and I would
like jogs to do something.
He's like damn dude, you'rerunning like a big boy.
I was like you, thick boyyou're thick.

(10:54):
Yeah, that's what it is, thoughyou know like you're heavy and
you run like you're heavy.
It's like every inch of yourbody is like damn, this is
bullshit I've seen some likeback to Savage Loop.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I saw some dudes that were some fucking gorillas dude
and they finished it.
So I was like, okay, if he cando it, I can do it.
But I also saw some fuckinggazelles and they were like, oh,
this is nothing.
I was like yeah, I was like Ineed to get in touch with my
inner canyon.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know how you do that,dude.
Stop eating, it's just no morefood, bro.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Bro, I was.
I was just in france and I wasfucking crushing some croissants
.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Oh dude, yeah, I saw you went to normandy.
That looked awesome, man, whileyou were in.
Did you ever get to jump intothat?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
no, no, never, never got to do that, but, uh, this is
an.
It was an amazing opportunity.
Uh, shout out to best defensefoundation guys are, are fucking
crushing it and I cannot.
I hope, I hope to, for goodnesssakes, I hope I get the invite
again because, dude, thegreatest human beings I ever met
, dude, these guys get upsinging.
They're happy, um, freaking,just dude they're.

(12:08):
They will share every bit oftheir story.
Like we tend to think of our,our world war ii veterans, as,
like you know, like, oh, they'resold and then we do these.
These guys were sharp as a tack,sharing so much of their lives
Like some of them still spokeFrench.
That was that blew me away,dude.
And like they were, they wererock stars there.

(12:30):
Man, like literally had peoplelike jumping on stage to like
kiss them, like I, like I'mliterally like next year they're
like American, thank you.
And like jumping on stage, like, like I'm like dude, next year,
just bring it back as abodyguard, because I had the
most fun doing that like jumpingon stage, but get off the stage

(12:51):
, god please, sorry, please makelove to me, mandy, please make
love to me, randy.
Make love to me, please, yeah Ilove you, randy.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Make love to me, randy, please.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Best south park reference ever dude, dude, so I
I did.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Uh, I jumped into normandy.
Um, no, sweet opportunity, gotcompletely pieced up by my chief
at the time because we got onthe bus to go, and you do.
You guys have the same rule,like uh, collared shirts for
travel days oh, yeah, yeah, yeahokay, so representable.
I was being a little, uh, littleturd and I and sometimes I I do

(13:36):
, I do travel day in not acollar, but it's it's a
button-up t-shirt.
It's still got like it's threebuttons, but it's just a t and
button up t-shirt.
It's still got like it's threebuttons, but it's just a T and
um dude he like, and we had, wehad the the force master chief
on the bus.
I think he was like, uh, Idon't know if he was a force

(13:56):
master chief, but he was a teamguy and he was like, at least,
dude, he was super high up andyou know we're on travel day.
I'm not wearing like a polo,but I still got the buttons.
So to me, I'm that, I'm kosherand uh, it's got buttons.
Chief, dude, come on and um,it's like half the deal and the,
the mcpon, or whatever the, theforce master chief, he, he

(14:19):
legit was wearing like niket-shirt, nike shorts, like just
didn't give a shit at all.
And my chief came on and lookedat me and reamed me out on the
bus and like he was just likeyou know, said something.
And I just like put my thumbright in his face, like as close
as I could get, and uh, andthen he like took me off the bus

(14:39):
and he's yelling at me and Iwas like I looked at he's like
you want to fucking stay home?
Like oh well, you know,whatever.
And I was like dude, what areyou gonna do?
Like we have to get somewhere.
And the force master chief issitting on the fucking bus right
now, like do you want to haveit out for an hour and have him
miss his flight and not get tojump into normandy?
What are you gonna do, dude?

(15:00):
You've got two options.
It's leave me here or don't.
And he was just like fuck it,get on the bus, bro.
But that was a sick day, dude.
I mean after getting reamed out.
Then we went in normandy andjumped in.
I literally landed like uh tolike.

(15:22):
It just hammered home the pointthat like I didn't give a shit
but I still crushed.
I landed right on the X, sothey had the whole camera crew,
it's like right on the flag andI was just like, yeah, what do
you think about that shit boy.
But dude to your point, it wassick man, those French villages

(15:43):
like they the way it wasexplained to me is like dude.
Their grandparents are stillalive, their grandmothers who
are being occupied and raped byGerman soldiers, they're still
alive.
So they tell their grandkidsand their kids kids and
everything.
And you go into the city andyou feel it.
It's electric.
They love those guys.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, you feel it, it's electric, they, they love
those guys.
Yeah, honestly, the way I thinkof it is like them like look,
say what you want abouteverything that came after that,
but it's the most righteousfriggin cause, the greatest
friggin call of a nation to jointhat fight, and those guys
deserve it.
Man, like I look back to likethe shit that we did and and not
to minimize it but like did wereally need Afghanistan?

(16:27):
Probably not, probably notlarge by large.
It's not something that's goingto be remembered in the same
light and it's just the leastgood to like have American
heroes, like true Americanheroes, whereas you can like
look at some of the service fromwhat we've done.
I'd be like dude, we have PX atfucking food court bath.
Like, yeah, I don't know it'sno, it's going to ever be.

(16:48):
Like let's go back toAfghanistan.
It's like please don't need it.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Could you imagine holding the same event in the
current social climate inAfghanistan or Iraq right now?

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Dude just being being welcomed by the taliban.
Uh, as you can see, not muchhas changed.
It's still a shit hole.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I don't know why he's russian, as you can see, not
much.
We gotta get old ass seanconnery to play a fucking a
taliban insurgent?
I bet he has.
I don't know why I'm likethinking that he has dude, ai
can make it, ai can make it seanconnery could make it.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
He would do it, he's got gpt generate a movie with
sean connery as a scottishtaliban member dude.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I mean stephen seagal basically did it.
He's fucking, he's all overthat shit.
He's steven seagal, he's arussian puppet now dude, he's
always he is.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
He is so deep in ties with the russian government.
Now it's insane.
I never had that.
I did not have that on my 2025bingo card.
I wish I would.
Is this news?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I haven't heard.
Check it out.
Yeah, seagal is deep staterussian intel he's like in every
russian propaganda video.
I'm pretty sure he's makingfilms for russia right now dude,
and you know what it all goesback to that fucking one movie
he made where he was a sniper.
Did you ever watch this one?
He's a sniper and in thebeginning of the movie he's like

(18:27):
working for the ca or something, and, um, he, he, like you know
how he always like affects,like a louisiana black, like bro
, yes, tone, yes, yes, so he'sdoing that in the beginning of
the movie.
And then he completely so, he'slike they're doing, they're
running some op, it's allhilarious, bro, it's, it's his,

(18:48):
it's absolutely hysterical.
And then he switches his accentto like a ukraine, like you
know, eastern block european.
And the rest of the moviesomehow, like you start he's
like just like military operatorfrom the us, and then something
happens and then he's like justliving the rest of his life
banging a really hot chick inlike eastern block europe, and

(19:12):
the story completely changes and, uh, it's so fun, dude, you've
got us, you got.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
I'll try to remember the name, but the best, because
I'm gonna put it up on thescreen like right now, right
he's banging this really, reallyhot chick and he's Steven
Seagal and he's wearing all ofhis clothes he's still got
everything on.
He's got his glasses.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
He's got his leather duster, he's still wearing his
pants.
So sick dude.
He's so next level awesome,like doesn't know anything about
jiu-jitsu or martial arts.
Martial arts expert what is?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
his, like his aikido shit is fucking hilarious.
I just come across and I justfold you down.
He just pushes me and I comearound and I just push.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
It's mentalism.
He scares them into death.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Oh man, he is responsible for one of the
greatest 90s movies ever UnderSiege.
I'm just a cook.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
And his martial arts has always been the same.
It's like minimal body movement, maximal arm movement.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Dude insane, Just his cheesy knife fighting with Tom
Lee Jones at the end.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Oh my God, so dope.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
RIP.
I know you're not that, butsoon, soon, there's no way.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
There's no way he makes it to 80.
Could be possible?

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Could you imagine having him on the run?
I mean honorary seal.
You did play once, so join us.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
He can have my trident.
I'll give up everything to gethim on this run.
Steven Seagal.
If you're listening for somefucking reason or you see this
clip it's 220 months I'll letyou do your mentalist shit and
we'll put you in at the lastmile, ahead of everyone you'll

(21:33):
be the winner I will let you.
If I'm, if I'm in first, I willlet you roast me like.
I'll let you run the final 10feet that you can run still, and
I will let you make fun of mepublicly.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
You need to have them on fucking let's.
Let's do a go fund me forsteven seagal to be on this run.
That'd be sick we would have toraise what?
To get his appearance like 50honestly, I think you'd do it

(22:08):
for a hoagie yeah, it was good,a big grinder sandwich you'd be
down for seafood po'boy dude.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
That was like we were setting up for my buddy's
bachelor party one time andsomeone was like dude, should we
get rick flair?
And I was like you know, wewere like like new guys.
I was like dude, there'sabsolutely no way we could
afford rick flair.
And he's like no dude, I'm onhis website right now.
It's like 200 bucks fuckingsteal dude dude.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I bet he's on cameo.
I bet he's on cameo.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I dude, he's gotta be .
I I don't think yeah, he'sgotta be right yeah, yeah, I'm
on it right now.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Let's research this.
I thought about getting acouple cameos for the to do shit
for the podcast while back andthen, because I was the mental
acuity of a squirrel, I alwaysforget to come back and check it
out, but you'd be blown away bywho's on Cameo.
Just fucking just everybody.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
I kind of want to look into that now?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, dude, it's a win-win situation.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Oh, I remember what happened.
So I'm a big fan of Aqua TeenHunger Force.
I think it's one of thegreatest shows ever.
It's amazing and I was like dudewhat if I get the voice actors
to do the intro, like to just dothe intro of the podcast?
I kept looking in, yeah, and Ifound out the fry lock was
homeless and it really bummed meout, dude, it was so fucking

(23:36):
sad.
I was like, fuck, yeah, I'mgonna get him to do the fucking
intro, be great.
And uh, carrie carrie me, ascarrie means the uh, the guy
does master shake and a fewother.
They were listed on there but uh, you know, they were a little
bit outside my price point, likeyou know, 300, 400.
So it's like that's, that's abit much for an intro.
But uh, fry lock was on therefor like 150, I think.

(23:59):
It was like in there for like acheese sandwich, but like it
was like super a grilled cheese,super bummed out because it was
so sad.
He had pictures of hisapartment and like going like
fucking, like, uh, like it waslike fuck he's.
He was on the streets at onepoint I was like fuck dude, like
this guy got me sounds like hecould be homeless.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
He sounds like if there was a character that was
all reverse yeah, it's allreverse.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
You think meatwad and fry and master shake are gonna
be the ones abusing cocaine andheroin.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
And uh, it's, fry lock, it's yeah, it's always the
educated guy, it's not.
Carl car's always going to havehis double wide, he'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
There's a guy that actually he looks like the
cartoon version.
It's not the real voice actor,but he looks identical.
They actually used him from thelive action episode they did,
which is fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Actually, let's look at Frylock now.
He looks like Carl.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, 100% looks like Carl.
That's sick, actually.
Let's look at fry lock now.
He looks like carl.
Yeah, 100 looks like carl.
Yeah, that's so, he's still.
So.
Fry lock is still on.
Cameo, uh, carry means 65dollars, oh fuck that's so sick
did he do any other voicesacross adult.
No, he did, he did, he did.

(25:26):
I want to say he did FrylockThunder, cleese from the Brack
show, jonah Bishop from Welcometo the Wayne, yeah, yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Brack show is heavily slapped on, heavily slapped on.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Insanely slapped on bro Like the intro itself um,
it's so good yeah space goescoast to coast.
Oh my god, dude, I don't evenneed medicinal marijuana to
laugh hard, I just need to watchsome of the old school uh,
cartoon network or not.
Adult swim shows.
Dude, fucking so good dude,they're amazing.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Do you remember the uh god, the professor brothers?
No, uh, they did a couple ofshorts, so they're.
I think the spinoff show mighthave been um chicago il with
that big weird character, butthey did um, you, you have to

(26:25):
know these.
They did some youtube videosand one of them is like about uh
, washington, and it's likeWashington, washington, six foot
twenty, fucking killing for fun.
They did like.
They did like history lessonson presidents, but they're
fucking hilarious, dude.
The other one they did is aboutlike Sodom and Gomorrah.

(26:49):
The presentation they do isthat they're like two professors
working at a college, butthey're just like super crass
and like slightly educated dude.
It's, it's, it's worth a shake,it's what's the?
name of them again.
The professor brothers, watchthat and tell me you don't love
it oh dude, yes, yes, I remembernow.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
yeah, yeah, unlocked a poor memory.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I love what he's describing God.
Who was this story of Sodom andGomorrah about?
But he's running away from thecities and God told him don't
look back.
And his wife looked back forone second, one split, fucking
second.
She turned into a pillar ofsalt.
Second, she turned into apillar of salt and he's just

(27:39):
like could you imagine your wifeturns into a fucking pillar of
salt or some other spice.
So stupid by him.
Salt salted.
A pillar of fucking salt, dudehe's just.
Could you imagine your fuckingwife man turns into a fucking
pillar of salt or some otherspice?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
In the pictures of the dude Is that lemon pepper.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
He's like crying and looking back.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Oh man, we're going to hell.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Dude, that's brutal.
Those biblical stories areunreal dude.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Some are insane dude, they're awesome in the whale.
I couldn't imagine beingtrapped inside a whale.
That'd be horrifying.
Yeah, what are you doing, dude?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
did you ever do um?
Did you dive uh?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
no, I have.
I have a thing with uh, uhwater where I don't uh, I don't
want to get the fuck in it.
I don't fuck with that shit,I'm a sky boy.
Yeah, yeah dude I would alwaysthink about that when you're
diving you know, because you'rein your black wetsuit.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
You're just with one other dude, everything's black,
like you can see fucking nothing.
And so I I liked to be the dudewho drove, because you're
looking at your tack board andyou have something to do, but
the dude who's not driving isliterally looking ahead, like
just in case we're going to runinto something sharp, and it's
like no, that's not me, man, I'mnot.
I'm not the look around guy,because all I ever think like

(29:17):
some thing, some big fuckingthing, is just gonna like open
its mouth and we're gonna swimin and not know.
And then that's where you arenow.
That's it.
You fucking live.
I just I think, that happened tosome woman recently.
They were diving in a.
She was swallowed by a bluewhale.
I'm not even kidding, I'm noshit put, put her up on the
board.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Let's see it.
Let's see this.
Let's see this woman swallowed.
I better be careful with what IGoogle.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Did you say that just to cover down on the Google
auto propagation Right?

Speaker 1 (29:51):
It's like number one hit, number one, hit.
I got gobbled up by a whale.
Oh, did she live, yeah.
Dude that's sick, apparently,but that's the first thing she
says on Slate Magazine'sinterview.
Who the fuck is Slate Magazine?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Slate Magazine Did you mean to say Slut Magazine?
I think you're looking at thewrong shit dude, no slate slate.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
I'll put it up here.
Slate woman's woman's slutmagazine I got gobbled by a
whale, something that a guy fromboston would say no, here's the
full headline.
Here's the full headline boston.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
So she has dude, that's gotta be insane, like if
you're headline boston.
So she has dude, that's got tobe insane, like if you're from
boston.
You could have an incrediblelife experience and it'd be
really deep and no one wouldcare because you just sound like
that slate magazine, I gotgobbled up by a whale.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
It was amazing.
I'm sure it was becky, it wasincredible.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
It was so good for my chakras.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
The vibes were good in there oh, august 26, 2023, so
it was a recent ish um, why doI think that's recent?

Speaker 2 (31:11):
that's so crazy dude that was the the headline alone.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
If you want to read the full article, be an episode
description, knock yourself out.
Uh, the the uh picture.
Uh, it looks like it's aigenerated as a kayaker and uh
right in the mouth of a whale.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Then that'd be terrifying that'd be gnarly, you
know, especially if you're in akayak, so vulnerable yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Dude.
I saw a video somebody postedrecently of a guy in a canoe
fucking out in the ocean gettingfucking attacked by a shark.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
No, no, thanks, nah, dude, no, well, dude, the
scarier thing is the fuckingkiller whale, because they like
know how to get you out of boats, like they're known in Alaska
killer whales, like pods ofkiller whales for fucking
flipping boats on purpose, likeon purpose they, because they do
that thing that they do withthe iceberg and they all swim

(32:09):
under it and they make thatcurrent where it rocks and they
flip it.
Could you imagine, like, justlike being assaulted by a
fucking bitch made ass, stupidanimal, fucking so gay.
Dude, are you so pissed off?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
top three worst ways to die outsmarted by a fucking
whale dude, getting eaten has tobe number one, right like what
would be worse than being eatenby something else?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
sexually assaulted by something else, like a bear,
like raped to death by somethingelse.
Yeah, yeah, that'd be that.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
That's pretty, that's insult to injury yeah the
question is do you die rightaway or do you die from sepsis
later?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (32:54):
well, I mean it depends on the size of the bear
they're all big dude.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I don't know what he's packing, but it's probably
huge actually.
Oh, what are bears packing?
I have no idea.
I mean, we all know horse cocksare giant, but a bear maybe.
I would say but a bear, maybeit's tiny, maybe it's tiny and
you laugh at it that's whatenrages him.

(33:21):
You shame him, oh nice.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I think I'm gonna live from this bear attack.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yikes buddy gay gay, buddy Gay Fucking.
I'm sorry, is a toddler tryingto rape me right now.
I'm fucking out.
I'm a bear mix myself.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Just so I don't have to deal with your shit?
Oh my God.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Oh, that's one of the funny things about we do uh, we
do part of our training inkodiak, alaska.
Kodiak has the biggest bears onthe planet and you go out there
and we're like, just whereveryou are, whatever you do, like
every class is just like runninginto bears, like no matter what
you do.
And so I, my buddies so thiswasn't my, my group, but my
buddy's group they're goingalong the river and they see

(34:20):
like a sow and her cub, which islike you know, yeah, the
ultimate shit.
Yeah, because they'll run youdown for like a mile, like just
to get you away from the cub.
And so this bear starts runningthem down.
And in this part in training,they take the firing pins out of
our rifles.
Okay, so we just have bear mace, because they just don't trust

(34:44):
students with the responsibilityof having, you know, like a
loaded weapon.
We're like dude these are bears.
Like you know we're.
We're students.
You can drop us from training.
We're sufficiently scared tonot make these mistakes.
Like you know we're we'restudents, you can drop us from
training.
We're sufficiently scared tonot make these mistakes.
Like please give us a gun.
And uh, they're like Nope andbear mace in the cans.
You know, like any level ofstudent training, they're

(35:07):
getting recycled over and overand over, like they're not
buying new cans.
So, uh, one of my buddiesbreaks it out to to make
somebody just like everyone getyour.
And then they they spray and itgoes into the fucking wind.
It comes right and they justmace the shit out of themselves

(35:28):
and they can't see in a fuckingsow is like a 2 000 pound apex
predator is charging them down ariver.
They're like run away.
So fucked dude.
So they all just startedscreaming that actually worked.
Like they yelled it down and itran away, but then they all got
maced out.
It's so funny?

(35:48):
Definitely not.
Brandish your mates Brandishyour mace and then you just get
ran down by a bear While you gotmace in your shot, just fucking
the remnant.
Oh my god, dude, that movie.
By the end I was literally.

(36:09):
I can't remember who I wassitting with, but I looked at my
buddy.
I was like what's next Is atornado gonna fucking come get
him now.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
This dude's life is too hard I just had a dude on
the show that survived a, a bearattack and I was like bro I, I
watched the revenant to preparefor this interview and he's like
it's funny you say that becauseit was exactly like that.
I was like, get the fuck out ofit.
He's like, yeah, exactly likethat.

(36:36):
It just fucking just pounce,pounce, pounce, bite, bite,
crunch, thrashed him around andthen finally it went to bite his
hand and he had the can, thebear mace, in his hand.
So it bit down through his hand, punctured the pepper spray or
the bear mace shot into itsmouth and it just took off like

(36:57):
crazy and that's when he waslike he fucking got up and was
like all right, I guess I'mstill alive.
Might as well create somedistance.
But the bear ran down towardsthe road so he had to run the
opposite way, further into thewoods.
I'm just like fuck dude.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Was this a younger military cat and he was out
there with his girlfriend yeah,yeah, right, dude I think I
heard his story on um steveronell's podcast yeah, he was on
meteor yeah, dude, that is wild.
And I I always think to myselffrom his story, like when I have
my gun on me.
You know, because I'm doing allmy training in the mountains

(37:37):
and I do a lot of it, like nearLake Tahoe, so I'm like ready
for that.
And it's like, dude, if a bearwere to try to come at me right
now, like it's got to be, it hasto be chest carry.
Like they're so fast, they'reso big, they're so aggressive,
like you have to be able to justpop off a couple rounds.
I always think about it.
You know, you got your wife outthere and small dogs.

(37:57):
It's like what's the plan?
And I had last, last weekend, Idid a five mile ruck.
It was like 2 000 feet ofelevation and I put on like a
hundred pound ruck don'trecommend it.
It's such a shitty time zero outof five stars, zero, zero, dude
.
Well, the the way the way up, Iwas like this is great training

(38:19):
.
You know, it wasn't as hard asI thought it was going to be,
because once you get past 45pounds you're like this is just
really heavy and I'm gonna bewalking heavy guy pace anyways.
Yeah, and it was fine, boy pace, big boy pace, and I was just,
you know, like grinding my legs.
My wife pregnant, so she'sgoing slow, and it was fine.
And then I got to the top, tookthe ruck off and I was like oh

(38:40):
God, no, because I was in themuscular pain.
I didn't notice the structuraldamage that was happening and my
hips were hurting really bad.
So then I put it on and I wentback down.
Long story short, the way downwas unreal.
I was like really, really,really, really regretting having

(39:02):
that heavy ass rock.
I mean, it was just like scaryas shit.
I was like dude, every step Iam so close to tearing something
like the way down was awful.
But I was thinking the wholetime like I have a gun on me,
but I also have a hundred poundruck on me, like how fast am I
getting this thing off andgetting to that gun, not fast,

(39:23):
not fast, like that bear isgonna crush you.
You gotta really be fuckingsquared away, dude, you gotta
have the, the chest carry.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
There's like no other alternative yeah, dude, it's
gotta be like something insanelypowerful.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Those fucking things are tanks, dude dude, when lewis
and clark were coming acrossthe the country and they were
like we saw this new kind of ofbear.
It's ferocious and massive.
They would shoot these thingsonline, like with like 50 guys,
and they would.
The bear would still chase themdown like fuck, what.
One of the anecdotal likepoints, like one of the guys was

(40:00):
just like he runs back to camp.
He's like holy fuck, everyone,get your guns.
I shot a giant animal and Ithought I was gonna kill it so
we could eat it.
I shot it in the heart and theyhad, like you know, muskets, so
the round is like this big.
He's like I shot it in theheart.
I swear to god, it ran down.
It ran him down for like threemiles and he was on horseback.
It gets there and they all hadto shoot it to put it down.

(40:22):
And then they kept doing thatlike they kept.
They kept trying to shoot bearslike the whole time, dude, they
were like I mean, that's likethe, it's the ultimate game.
Yeah, that's what it was like,dude they were like oh my god,
he totally almost died fromshooting that bear.
Let's go shoot more another one.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
How's the fucking rush, ishmael, let's do it dude.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Is anyone else super bored crossing this country with
all these native americans thatwant us dead and all these
predators?
Yeah, hella bored.
Surviving is so easy right now.
Shall, we, shall, we go shootanother one of those giant bears
, yay.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
All for you.
They just make it harder.
Perhaps only use spears.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, dude, dude is like.
I feel like they were, because,like the way they write it is,
it seems like they every dudewho would go out on patrol who
would see one, would just belike that last pussy missed.
There's no way you could shootthis thing in the heart and it
doesn't die.
And then he would try and he'dbe like, oh my god, and then
they've run.

(41:30):
It's's true.
It's true, scram boys, dude.
I think they legit, like dudes,died on their expedition from
bears, maybe one, fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
I would imagine a few .

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, those dudes didn't have the best fortitude,
poor bastards they were justdown to clown, though, which is
what this race is all about.
I should call this the Lewisand Clark 220.
No, nothing, no nothing.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
You have to dress old timey with the exact apparel
and like March.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
It's the same frill collars and shit yeah, your 22
pounds is just like two oldschool octagonal barrel muskets
no water you just have to get itdone.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, dude, you have to have okay.
So you have to pack out onlyhistorically accurate items from
that time period, that'd bekind of only eat, only eat
historically.
So you have to have like salt,tack and bacon and uh, just
putrid water.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah, well, that's like um.
Have you ever heard the storyof the donner party?

Speaker 1 (42:54):
yeah, yeah yeah, yeah .

Speaker 2 (42:55):
So like the donner pass, and everyone was like they
were eating, eating people.
It was like the worst thingthat's ever happened.
So when you go up to the donnerpass, which is actually pretty
close to here, and you look atlike the history center and you
kind of like read a little bit,a bit about it, the whole thing
is basically like here's thisfamily.
They wanted to go through thedonner pass, like they just
wanted to make the crossing andevery in it they're wealthy, of

(43:16):
course, and every guy did theytalked to was like not right now
, wait, and then we'll do itlater.
And they were like no, and thenthey went.
And then they went and foundsome crazy guy and they were
like so this is our plan and wewant to do it right now.

(43:38):
And he's just like genius,let's go do that.
And then they go up there andthey get fucking snowed in and
now there's a monument to them.
They're like monumental idiots,like for real.
Like there was no, they didn't,they didn't have to go, there
was no imperative.
Like the diner party justwanted to go and asked everyone

(43:59):
who wasn't retarded and thenthey got all those.
And then a guy was just like,yeah, I'll take you.
And then he took them the wrongway.
They got stuck and that guy waslike I'm gonna go back for help
, and then he left.
So you just have a bunch ofpeople who don't know how to be
outside professionally justsitting there waiting and then
he left.
So you just have a bunch ofpeople who don't know how to be
outside professionally justsitting there waiting and then
they got snowed in by likewhatever.

(44:20):
It was like 18 feet, it waslike some ungodly amount of snow
.
And you have like all thesenatives and all these people
who've been living in the landforever eating pine nuts and
stuff, and they're like dude,why would you go now and then,
for some reason in history?
It's like we need to build amonument to their sacrifice.
It's like to what they weren't,they weren't even exploring.

(44:43):
Yeah, like they were legit justdoing a walk that people had
done before and they just did itwrong and they were dumb
fucking idiots.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
They get remembered as heroes yeah they were.
Yeah, they figured it out theyate themselves dude, that's it
did.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
The the thing doesn't say they did, but people went
missing yeah, yeah, little timmydidn't make it out.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
He made great hamburger.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Dude, god, that'd be so messed up.
I mean, they were legit in 18feet of snow.
So like every step you take,you're just like falling down a
whole building into a trench ofsnow.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
I think that's the worst thing, dude, like being
trapped in snow.
That would be fucking insane.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I don't want to go that way.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
No.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
No, no, I mean, were you like?
I mean, do you ski or snowboard?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
No, last time I went was like fucking 2017, 2016.
Yeah, my body ain't doing thatshit too long.
Nah, nah, dog, nah, nah.
And yeah, my body ain't doingthat shit too long.
Yeah, I just nah, dog, nah, nah.
I remember we spent like theentire day out on the mountain
and then came back and the nextday I was just like I need ice
and stretching, I need mobility,guys.

(46:04):
Oh dude it's.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
It's a weird environment because everyone's
like dude, let's get absolutelyblackout drunk and then go be as
athletic as we physically couldpossibly be yeah, you're not
doing that.
And like going to a track andfield meet like, dude, hit my
flask, let's go hit this 400meter dash.
Why are we doing that?

Speaker 1 (46:30):
yo bro, let's get fucking crushed and run 25 miles
.
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Well, I think we, I think we have one of those 5ks,
we have those in virginia those5ks are, uh, they're ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Let's eat donuts while we do a 5k.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Come on, dude no I mean fuck dude, what is a 5k
right?

Speaker 1 (46:55):
it's like the worst type of run, because then it's
just like everybody there is,just the dumbest motherfuckers,
just we're doing a 5k for peacein israel.
I'm like, no, no, no, we're notwe're not doing that, we're not
.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
We're not doing that you have to walk to an outhouse
in palestine further than a 5kif you want to take a
semi-sanitary shit.
This is not it.
You are missing many of thepoints not my thing, dog.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
I think these physical things have to be like
a purpose and be like a realdistant like, have to be like
real, like something challenging.
Man, it has to be reallyfucking tough and um, yeah,
there's a dude into an economicgame.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
You know, like the more people I can get to sign up
, I, dude, I didn't realize thiswhen I started doing the ultras
.
It's like some of these racesare like a thousand dollars or
more,500.
And you look at that and you'relike, oh Whoa.
You know, like you'revolunteering to run someone's
route, yeah, but you get a sweetbelt buckle at the end, dude.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Dude, that's so sick, that's so fucking sick.
The benefit is ultra Beltbuckle culture is kind of tight.
Kind of dope dude.
I'm just saying next year, whatare you doing?
Memorial Day weekend.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Dude, I'm down to clown whenever you know that.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
We're doing the Benavides Ultra for Campbell,
Kentucky, dude, because you geta belt buckle.
It's just like a continuousloop.
I think it's a seven-mile loop.
You just got to do six hours,to do as many as you can and try
to break that 26-mile thresholdand then we get a belt buckle
Six hours to get in a 26-miler.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yeah, it's not bad right.
I suck at this math.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah, me too.
It's not my strong, but we doit together.
We bring a team and then wecrush it and we all get belt
buckles.
And yeah, it's part of the the,the challenge I'm coming up for
next year.
We got we got to do threeevents.
The first one's going to beSavage Loop in Florida.
That's the first one that comesand then Memorial Day weekend

(49:04):
we're doing the.
Uh, we got to do the BenavidesUltra at Fort Campbell, kentucky
, and then we got to do one more.
Got to figure out which onewe're going to be doing.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Dude, yeah, do this 220 next year as the last race,
as the last, like, all right,sick, these were good events.
We feel good.
Yeah, now let's fucking grindand die.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Yeah, let's do it.
Let's make that one the lastone, then I'm down.
I yeah, let's do it.
Let's make that one the lastone, then I'm down, I'm down,
let's do it.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
I mean, the one thing that I really fucked up last
year in my training cycle was Ifinished my last ultra in I
think November, I think it wasand then I was like, all right,
I'm done running until it's warmnow.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
And uh.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
I am done.
That did not work.
I am way too heavy and I'venever taken really creatine
before and you know you listento like one Joe Rogan.
And now you're like, okay, I'mgoing to go buy all eight of
those supplements and take themall and see what happens.
And, um, and see what happens,and I've been taking creatine
and I don't normally and, dude,you gain so much weight.
Like I fluctuate like 10 poundsa day, 10 pounds, 10 pounds of

(50:22):
water weight a day.
I mean that's just absurd.
You know what I mean.
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Dude, I think I gotta stop taking creatine On the
backside, let's get a coach.
Let's get a coach for next year.
let's get a fucking marathoncoach I think I know the guy
okay yeah yeah, he's like I gota good training, good training
plan with uh automated, uhrunning coach.
But I want to, I want a realhuman being coach to dial in my

(50:49):
uh, my running and start me offfrom ground zero.
Because we have, we have, bythe time you're done, you
recuperate and rest like we haveenough time to like fucking
really start training and get onlike a fucking, like fucking
running running shape be simple.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Well, it's nice because when you get in that
running shape and then you gofor your hour jog or whatever
and you make like you know 10miles, you're like, oh shit, I'm
like so fast, I'm so dialed.
Right now that's the bestfeeling, where you're just like,
oh shit.
I did that the other day I wasin LA for a contract gig and I

(51:28):
like ran and I was like, allright, I'm flat ground, like
let's try to, this isn't themountains, maybe we kick it out,
see what happens.
And I made like eight and ahalf miles.
I was like, okay, cool, that'slike something that I can
actually measure, like I knowhow fast I'm actually going.
Felt pretty good.
Um, haven't been running onpavement, so my shins kind of
hurt after that, but otherwise Iwas like, oh okay, I kind of

(51:49):
feel sick and and then lost someweight, gained some weight back
, not heavy as shit, don't feelgood anymore, whatever.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah, that's my next.
I'm in the same boat.
It's time to cut down.
Being big was awesome, bouncingpeople is cool.
Dude.
Fucking France did so much formy fucking positive body image
because you're a fucking yokedude.
I was like, yeah, I eat normalfood and it looks like you don't

(52:17):
.
You just drink coffee and smokecigarettes, so maybe just eat
some protein, but yeah, it'sfucking.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah, it's pretty sick when you like have been
just around like your wife for awhile and then, like you, go
out in the wild and people likeyou're fucking unit dude.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
It's like yeah, that, yeah, that word right there.
What Fucking shout out to you,jc.
This kid was like you look likeJason Momoa, or just like a
bodyguard.
I'm like all right, little guy,you just made my day.
Jason Momoa is good, thebodyguard shit can go.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
But Jason Momoa say that again Nice, nice nice, nice
.
Nice, nice Jason.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Momoa Say that again Nice, nice, nice, sick, sick.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Sick.
I had a dude I went to an eventand he was just like bro, why
would you, why aren't you like,why aren't you playing like
linebacker for like aprofessional football team?
And I was like good question,good question, ask me more
questions about why I look likesuch a fucking unit just like,

(53:18):
like johnny, bravo just lookinglike a full-on triangle and
still getting rejected by chicks.
That guy's the spirit animal ofthe teens shout out to you true
classic t-shirts.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
You make us look fucking yoked dude, nothing
better than a t-shirt that makesyou look massive just, oh my
god, can I get that same t-shirtin the following sizes shmedium
shmedium light and extrashmedium tight?

Speaker 2 (53:48):
just I want my t-shirt to basically just be the
little ring at the end of thet-shirt sleeves and the top one
that chokes my neck out.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
No need for the material in the middle, it's not
necessary dude, the greatestthing on earth is when you go
like I don't care what any of myother fucking numbers are, but
when you go to curl and you'rejust grabbing every weight
imaginable and it's just like,all right, 50s, 60s, 70s, the
pre-made curl bars you're like,oh fuck, yeah, let's rep these

(54:28):
out.
Yes.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
There's nothing better.
I mean, you know like allexercise is awesome, but there's
really no better feeling thanhaving like a just a sick bicep
pump.
Unfortunately, that is justcompletely and utterly true,
like there is no better feelingthan vascularity from your
fingertips to your neck and it'sonly your biceps that you're
working out.

(54:52):
You're like yeah, this is'sthere's no need for it.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
It doesn't help me in any of the things that I want
to do.
I don't give a fuck it feels sogood dude I.
But nothing's greater than likegoing to the gym and like.
So I've got this new runningshirt and it's like super, it's
like one of those like it'ssuper light fabric.
Yeah, it was like really big onthe arms.
I put it on this morning and Iwas like we'll take care of this

(55:19):
today.
Today is bicep day.
Like by the time you're donelifting, it's like ridiculously
tight and you're like legit.
So like when we were working onthe farm.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
You're so fucking dick tired after about a week of
, like you know, 16 ish hourdays.
Yeah, it's hot.
It's not like the mostdemanding work in the world.
You know we're not dragginghoes to the field and shit, but
it's just like hot and you haveto pay attention, whatever.
And uh, by the next morning wewould always work out in the
morning.
It just basically turned intoevery day.
It'd be like we drinkpre-workout.

(55:59):
You know, sit down, watchbodybuilders or something on TV
like pumping iron, and you'relike, yeah, all right, so what
are we working out today?
And it's like well, you look atthe bench, you look at the rack
.
You have like everything youneed to do any kind of workout
you want to.
And you're like so should wejust do buys and call it good.
It's like yeah, yep, yep.
Yeah, our workout started justturning into like go do

(56:21):
pre-workout, watch tv for like60 straight minutes and then,
for 10 minutes, be like, oh fuck, we got to work out and then
just pump your buys as hard asyou possibly can, yep, yep yeah,
what I do in the afternoons formy second workout is I play
over the top where it's a.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
it's a mix, really it's, it's a.
Cuts from over the top Rocky,the training montage, and then
the movie Soldier with what'shis name Fucking, not Michael
Douglas, the other dude from thething.
Anyways, those cuts all in oneradical workout plan and you

(57:02):
just work out by us.
That's all you do, dudes withthe over the top.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Soundtrack from rocky over the top is the most bicep
of a movie ever.
It is so sick.
There's nothing better thanjust watching two dudes greased
up and flexed out and the onlyscene is just dudes like the
frame.
Is this always?
It's just arms.

(57:27):
That movie fucking rocks too.
There's nothing better thanwatching like Rocky play the
character of a total washoutShit, dad Right.
The worst fucking dad, dude,worst, worst dad.
And then his kid is pissed andhe's like Michael.
What's why, dude, you're beat abitch Like he's like.

(57:49):
He's like always acting likehis kid is being over the top
and then he's just like dude,that's why the name of the movie
is over the top it's not aboutthe fucking move.
It's about how annoying michaelis.
As his son you know.

(58:09):
He runs out on the highway andhe's like why are?
you acting like this?
I haven't seen you in yourwhole life.
I abandoned you because I don'tlike myself.
Michael, it's still about meand you're like dude.
What the how?
Is that a tactic?
And then the kid gets totallymanipulated and his rich.

(58:30):
His rich, non-burnout grandpa isjust like hey bro, no, you
can't steal my kid by drivingyour truck through our gate and
into my foyer and then stealthis kid that you have no
custody over and no relationshipwith, who you just met.
And then now he's the bad guybecause he taught him how to

(58:52):
fucking eat a burger at agreased up restaurant and arm
wrestle and you're like dude,this movie is amazing.
Like this, this is.
This is the pathway to successfor absentee fathers to just
come back whenever they want anddo the bare minimum and when
their son over, like yeah, butI'm Jack, you know your mom has

(59:15):
cancer just dying in a bed.
You seen that shit?
Michael, little bitch, get in,get in this truck and he's just
like all right I don't careabout copyright laws.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
We're putting a montage of this movie in this
episode.
Enjoy it right here that movierocks man.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
We tried to build that machine that he has in our
tractors in the tractors didn'twork.
We were just like, yeah, yougot nothing to do all day.
You're just like, oh man.
What kind of yeah, you gotnothing to do all day.
You're just like, oh man, ohgood, what kind of fucking
workout is this too?

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Accidentally get really good at jerking off.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Get really good at jerking off two tall guys.
Two dudes at the same time overthe top or two michael's gay
michael's in a world wheremichael was gay the whole time

(01:00:33):
one father has one shot, oneshot to make it right and he's
doing this shit like the pornguy move that's the over the top
they were talking in a worldwhere lubrication is cheap and
over the top.
The head of your penis is themove.
Michael's 18 now, so it's notillegal to make this movie over

(01:00:59):
the top too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Michael's revenge.
I'll show you, dad.
It's actually coming out inCannes Film Festival this year.
It's the first big promotion Iever did on this podcast.
Check out our movie, it'scoming out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Shout out to Over the Top 2.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
It's right here You'll see the title of it.
I'm really proud to be behindthis film.
We worked really hard,tirelessly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
In a world where Michael doesn't want to use his
mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
His father taught him the right technique.
Instead of his wrist just beingthis way, he just like oh man,
we're really hoping this moviehits it big.
We're proud to be part of it,real proud.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yeah, this is my first crack at writing and
directing a film.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Put together an amazing ensemble.
Mostly all talent we found onCameo Revolutionary technique,
$65 a day.
We actually got the voice actorfrom.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Frylock to be an AI intelligent vibrator training
mechanism.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Michael, you have to go faster.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Faster, you got to go faster.
It's insane, oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
God.
On that note, where can we goto find out more about your
upcoming endurance feat andchallenge, Liam?

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
So I'm on YouTube at 3Bravo podcast veterans podcast,
and you can go straight to3Bravoorg, check out the events
page and find everything youneed from there.
There are plenty of ways todonate, still plenty of ways to
support, and if you are an ultraendurance athlete and you're a
veteran, and even if you're not,send me a message, send me a DM

(01:03:08):
on anything on LinkedIn, onInstagram, I will respond.
We will give you a real crackat the race If you haven't done
an ultra yet and you want to trythis, ain't it dog, do
something else.
But this is for experiencedvets only.
The support crew is legit.

(01:03:28):
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We have cool things coming,especially for the racers
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(01:03:49):
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So check out threebravoorg andthen send me a message on any of

(01:04:12):
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And I'm going to ask you to dome two things.
Do me a favor, solid favor.
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Give us a follow, give us alike, give us a share.
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Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
He's like infinitely small.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
He was prematurely born by 90 weeks.
It's so small.

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If you support us, you'resupporting him.
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Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
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Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Such a solid guy, you fit him in your fucking pocket
oddly enough, he'll be doing therace, uh, and then he'll be
doing the uh misogi challenge ofsecurity hall.
Uh, he's an endurance machine,but he also needs your help.
Um, there's a lot of specialtycare for someone his size just

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think he lives in an iron lunghe's able to come out
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Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
It's the smallest iron lung on the planet dear,
dear boy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
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