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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
I hope she helps you answer your question, yes, my anxiety. Hello,
I'm Jaqueline Cooley. Welcome to Scene on the Screen, brought
to you by Make It Universal and Rotten Tomatoes, where
we talk movies with some of the people behind the
scenes at NBC Universal. When entertainment works best, sometimes it
opens a window into a world we've never imagined. Other
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times it shows us a mirror image of our lives
with a heightened sense of home. Today we're going to
dig into the question what have you seen on the
screen that does that. My guest today is one of
the stars of Jurassic World Rebirth, Manoel Garcia Ruffel. You'll
hear about how he brought the emotional heart of the
Delgado family to life, his experience shooting on location in Thailand,
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and the fear he conquered to prepare for the film. Mael.
Welcome to Scene on the Screen.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Thank you, Thank you for having me. How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm great because I've seen the movie. You're incredible in it.
It's so great to chat about it. But I'd love
you to talk a little bit about your journey because
it's it's it's honestly great to see you in a
Jurassic Park movie. But this is sort of, I think,
been a long process. I think to kind of be
in something like this to talk a little bit about
you journey to Hollywood and Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well a lot of years.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I started working, you know, as an actor. I study
here in the States, and then I and I you know,
went back to Mexico start acting there in films, and
and then they were casting a film in Mexico called
bless Me Old Him. I was just it's it's it's
a you know, based on a book. And I got
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the role and it was with Carl Franklin, which is
an amazing director, and you know, I was so blessed
to be part of that. And from there they start
calling me for more parts. I got an agent. Well,
the story was that because of a film that I
was showing at a Denver film festival, charch Shift, the actor,
the great racharch Schif, he came. He saw the film.
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He's like, Manuel, if you ever want to work in Hollywood,
I can introduce you to my manager. She's amazing. She
has been Easio and he has all this you know,
and you know, so he introduced me to her and
she got me that audition, and then every part gives
you another part and then they see you, Oh I
saw you in this. I want to catch you in this.
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Do you have a film in your history that really
sort of said to yourself, Okay, I want to be
an actor. I saw that performance, I saw that actor,
and I want to do this.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I mean, it's funny because Spielberg is one of you know,
he really opened the world of cinema to me and
to me maybe I want to be part of that world.
And Jurassic was Jurassic Park was one of them. But
the one that I was like so obsessed, especially with
a character, was with Hook, Spielberg's Hook and Dustin Huffman
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as Captain Hook. And I remember saying that, It's like,
I want to do that for a living. And then
you know, you start getting more into I guess, more
complex films and stuff like that, and you're like, oh,
you started discovering more and more and more. But yeah,
I give it to Spilbork, you know, the Jurassic Park,
to Hook et, all these films that really open the
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world of magic for me.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, he's kind of good at that, And y'all definitely
created magic in this one. So in this one, you
play a dad and you're on a sailing adventure, and
I don't want to give too much away, but basically
y'all end up on the bad side of dinosaurs. This
is the best way to put it, which means I
think you had the added thing of what they say
not to do in Hollywood. You had animals and kids
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every single shot of every single point within the movie.
But it was also a very demanding shoot. So talk
about what that was like being in a lot of
the stuff that you were doing the most experienced actor
on set. Yeah, what was that like, sort of being
a captain on an off sea.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I mean, honestly, like you said, it's very You know,
you get a little nervous when you're gonna work with
kids because I've done it before and I've had various
amazing experiences. But you never know because either it can
go both ways. Sometimes to break them it's kind of hard.
But once they break, once they get into the world,
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for them is so easy because of the imagination they have.
They just get into the situation very fast. But a
dream of man she's just as soon as it matter.
She has this power that it was easy, you know,
to play with her because you know, we keep talk
before rolling with all the family, we get together with Gareth,
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and we keep saying that, you know, for me, and
I think it's kind of like the heart of the
film because especially because of the kid, is the vulnerability
of having a kid there with all the situations. You know,
we keept talking about how we had to make it
the best, the realist, you know, to really feel the
and the and the and the you know, survival mode
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and all this, to really have it there because the
fiction is i mean or the science fiction of that
the dinosass is. You know, it's already there. So let's
keep it the most or the realist that we can.
And as soon as the first scene that we did,
Adrena you know she I mean, David and Luna are
very you know, they've been acting so they know how
it is. But Adrina she's just you know, and it's
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easy to act like that when when you see in
her face and you see the fear, there's there's some
you know, one of the characters get eaten by a
dinosaur and and and then they panned to to to
the character of Adrina to Adrina and you see the
fear in her face and he's real. Yeah, and that's
what she brings. And and when you know, when you
act with actors like that, it's it's easy.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, it is like child's play. Let's go ahead and
dive into some films that hopefully you've seen on the screen.
You've never heard of me, because I make it a
practice not to be heard of.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Is this hook?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
No? Think more? Wait, what are you most known for
right now outside of Jurassic Park?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Oh? The Lincoln Lawyer.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, Oh my goodness, it's okay because I'm going to
forgive you for this because that I've actually watched. So
I've watched the proceeds of The Lincoln Lawyer, and I
have well, this is the deal with the Lincoln Lawyer.
Though you have so many monologues in that show, Like
I feel like talk a little bit about that too,
because I know English is your second language. I just
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feel like I couldn't do this in French, like I
studied for a long time. I can order and buy
things like the best of them in French. But if
you asked me to do a Lawyer scene to talk
a little bit about that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
There's one. You have to give it to me because
I don't in that. It's so much that I have
to learn that something happens in my brain that I
learn it. And as soon as I say it and
they say cut, it's gone.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
What needs to be? I can't because you've had more
stuff on top of it, because you're three seasons deep now. Yeah, yeah,
well three that we've seen. The fourth we're gonna We're
just see soon. The thing I would say that's crazy
about it is now. I don't think people realize because
it's Netflix, it's so global. Do you have people like
it is it? Is it like on the street now
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with The Lincoln Lawyer? Since it is so such a
global brand, do they huge people?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah? I was traveling for work. I mean when we
were shooting this all through Europe and this and it's
huge in England, yeah, and then Spain and frances It's
really global.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I did know that. And that was actually the person
who turned me onto it. Was somebody that I met
when I was in Cannon. They were like, do you
watch The Lincoln Lawyer? And they were like obsessed with
you because you've done a lot of Spanish language stuff
and they were like, oh, he's great. You got to
watch him in this, and so I was like, I
was on it, but that was season what. I'm well,
I'm well versed now, thank you great.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
No, they come and they're like, please represent me. I'm like, brother,
we'll go to jail. I represent you. But you know, yeah,
they love it. So you know, it's very cool.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Do you have a favorite moment from the Lincoln Lawyer
like that you really enjoyed because you get to do
a lot. I will say, for a lawyer, you're going
through it every season.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
No, And in this one that I just did is insane.
It goes through a lot. I don't know, I I guess.
I mean I enjoy a lot driving that Link and
the Blue which is beautiful and you know we always
drive it through La Downtown and it's really La. Like
one of those I'm just going like this. And I
love the scenes with Nev because it's where the most
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emotional scenes are ye and I just feel comfortable in
those scenes, but also also the court scenes because when
I know it, when I when I have time to
learn really really the you know, and I really enjoy
it because kind of like theater. You have all the
jury there and you know, and all these huge monologues.
I enjoy it all. And especially the crew and the
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and the cast are is you know, it becomes like
a family.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, no, I do. I think the courtroom scenes are
the best. Quote. Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether
or not they could they didn't stop to think if
they should. Jurassic Park the original Malcolm.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Is that when he's doing this too.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Maybe not too far from that. So where did you
see it first? Give me the experience of when you
saw it? Do you remember who you saw it with?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Honestly, I can't remember where or who I was with.
I remember what I felt, but I tell.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Me that first feeling, well, it was just it blew me.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It blew me away. Like I said, it really opened
you know. I mean I was I was terrified. I
was exciting. And the music, you know, I get chills
just hearing that.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
What was it like hearing that last night? Which you
in there.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
It's just so good. It's really big for me.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well, I do have to talk about this because now
you're a part of the sort of like Jurassic Park pantheon.
It I would have to say you saw the movie.
I've seen the movie. This might be the scariest and
I say that, like, and you had to do a
lot of like really inten hence stuff to make that scary,
Like did they tell you early on that it was
going to feel like this?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
My nephew, my little nephew was there, and I think
it was a bad idea he had after party. He
wanted to see if one of the characters was still
if it was okay, you know, but it is scary
and we knew it because Gary was very visionary. He
really said, guys, I want this. I want to bring
back the Jurassica that I saw and that really marked it,
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you know, And I want to make this scary. Yeah,
and it is, yes as the second time I see it,
and I'm jumping yesterday, I was jumping to things that
I knew if they were coming, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I said it to the first time I saw it.
The Universal people like, how did you feel about I
was like feel my heart felt like that is how
you know, Like I need a xanax. Okay, I'm fine.
Last quote, There's no forgiveness for.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Men like you, Ah, magnificent seven.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
First of all, I adore that movie and like I
get it seven Samurai to the Magnificent Seven. It's been
like this is the remix of the remix remake, but
like it's really good. Like Denzel you like Ethan Hawk
talk about that Antoine like behind it. Yeah, what was
it like being on that set?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And that was my first big, you know movie, big
movie in Hollywood, So for me, it was huge. It
was huge to be Yeah, then it doesn't get you know,
an Ethan and people that I've been admiring for so long,
and that really inspired me to be an actor and
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to be playing with them in such a situation because
it's like, you know, it becomes a kid again, you know,
with horses, you know, playing to be a cowboy. You know,
it was it was a very very cool experience. I always,
you know, every time I see one of those guys,
it's like, you know, wa.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Because that one it permated Toronto and you guys had
like the big, glamor and glitzy premiere. What is your
favorite memory from sort of like releasing that movie because
y'all went, like y'all did like a huge press run
and I know, like you're on one now with this.
But the first time you do that, that's got to
be kind of interesting, like doing the whole.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Like it's overwhelming. It's really overwhelming. And it was the
first time I was here doing press and I see
in Times Square a big solo poster of me. I
was like, you know, what the hell is going on?
It's really you know, to be one of those big films,
and as a cowboy with Denzel and Ethan Chrais Brad
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and Antoine, which you know he's a guy. It was
his birthday like two weeks ago, so oh really it
was great and that really was, you know, a movie
that opened a lot of doors for me, so very
grateful for it.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Would you say it was harder shooting the cowboys stuff
or harder shooting all of this stuff you had to
do for Jurassic.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I guess it's Jurassic harder. I'm a little older somebody's
you know when I was doing Man, I got it.
Give me everything now, like you know what.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Your guy over and be like you know what this
might be for you? Now? That's good, Like they didn't
keep you out of it. But I think we're going
to get that when we get into our next popingar
bucket this is true or false.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Truefalse.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
The Delgado family's boat Lamari Posta was created entirely with
visual effects.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
No false.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, y'all got a real boat.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
We got a real boat for some scenes, like you know,
most of the cruising, it's a real boat and we're
in the in the ocean, doing it in the terranean
and some it's just like a little when when the when.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
It turns out, you know, it's just they say, right here.
Lamar posts is a real nineteen forty eighteen sailing vessel
that was acquired in Malta. A second full scale version
was mounted on a map massive motion base to shoot
all the dinoas.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It was really impressive because they had it like you know,
what is like a big pond, artificial pond, huge, like
I don't even know how many tons of water you
can hold, and in the middle wasn't my post And
then they could you know, the boat and they could
turn it with this game bo I don't know how.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You call it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, it was, yeah, it was very cool.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I mean that's like that's like a different version of
like a ride. Basically, it's like this is the ride
you don't want to be on. But it was still
probably pretty fun. Also, can I just say that you
play a dad in this and you're there with your
two daughters, but David playing your daughter's boyfriend. Let me
just say the disappointed dad face that you give him
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chef's kiss, like it's kind of so disarming to watch
you just look at him, like I just I can't.
I can't right now. Is this like a face that
you've used before, You've been practicing how you're going to
use it?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Like I just feel like this, But he's so great
in the film. I'm so glad he you know, he's
in it. He's again, when you work with actors like that,
it's easy, it's easy to react. You just have to
live there and oh my goodness because he's timing is
so great.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
He's so good at it. But I'm curious for you, Like,
I don't know, I just felt like you were so
good at that. Do you have that experience of like
looking at it, like like I just felt like that face,
this is the face you do you put on in
real life that you then employed into those scenes, Like
I don't know, why is this true? Is just like
the vibe I guess so, No, it's really good. I
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dig it. It was literally one of my absolute favorite
parts of it. Let's move on to our next tribute question.
True or false. The scenes of the Delgado family being
chased by dinosaurs were filmed entirely on green screen stages,
no fault. Definitely. Many of those were in real environments
under challenging conditions, including dense tiede jungles and large scale
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water tanks. So this is the thing that not a
lot of people know is when y'all went to Thailand
where y'all got to film, it was kind of like
not really been used that much in a lot of films.
You guys got like special permission to go to these locations,
so I think it looked very untouched when y'all were there.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It was it was I mean, as an actor, it
helps to be in the real environment, you know, because
you're really sweating and rain pours out of nowhere, you know, clear,
and then all of a sudden it starts raining mosquitoes
every animals, So it helps to be like, really you're
really on edge because you're sitting there and you're like
a spider huge like.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Craft service is a long way away.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
From the first scene. We have to do a little hike,
and I mean hence and how do you say, like,
like all my respect for the cup because.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Oh yeah, cats off to the Yeah, hats off, Yeah,
hats off. No lovely, you.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Know, because they're the ones carrying all the equitment there.
There wasn't like a little car. You have to do
a you know, a hike. So yeah, heads off to
them and again to really be there, it really helps.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
No, you can tell it because yeah, y'all looked really scared,
and that's what made me scared. And I think as
a family it also probably bonds you. I really loved
that about this film is like, whereas in the first
one you had the reluctant parent of Alan Grant taking
care of the kids, and this one, I think for
a lot of parents watching it, that's the most terrifying
moment in the world where you're like, you're supposed to
be the normal person that protects your kids and you're like,
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I have no idea how to do that. I liked
how they carry that over. How much did Garrett talk
to you about that part of it, that whort of
like family unit that you guys really embodied.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
No, but I mean that was the whole talk because
it really is. I think people are really connected to
it because they're the ones that they don't know anything,
the ones that have no weapons, you know, they're just
trying to survive without knowing nothing. So and especially because
of again there's a little kid there, so so Yeah,
the talks with Gareth where a lot about that about
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you know, the story of the family being like a
very vulnerable one. You know that, you know Zora Scarlet's character,
she has the skills skills to fight to it. These
guys don't know. Not When there's good writing, you know,
it's everything flows and it's easy to you know, to
say the dialog, the words, and I think everything's there.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah. No, David Kept did an amazing job with the
script and all these characters. Also, even though Zora is
supposed to have all the skills and you know, I
don't know if the skills help you out exactly, Like,
what are you gonna do with a big two times dinosaur?
Final question? True? False? You learn to scuba dive for
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this film?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah? I mean I wouldn't say, like, if you tell
me let's go school with dive right now, I wouldn't
know how to turn every time you know I wouldn't survive,
I think, but at least I I you know, they
put the thing and I went underwater, and it was
like an accomplished for me because I've always been afraid
of it. Really, sister is like a big schoola and
she said, please, my man, it's going to change your life. Like, yeah,
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I'll change it in another way, but yeah, it was
a big accomplishment for me.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Did you call her afterwards? Like I did.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I told the guys, the stunts and the people were
please hate me. I want to send this to my sister.
And she saw it. She was so proud and I
love that. It's really I don't think I'm going to
do it again.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, it's going to be at least one.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
No, no, no, man, because she swims, she does it
with sharks and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I'm like, all right, I'm sorry because I would be
so upset if it's like this thing I've been trying
to get you. Oh, you'll do it for work, you
won't do it for me.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
No, no, not again again. That is fun. It's really,
it's really and the guys that taught us that, you know,
that were so amazing and it's really fun.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
All right now. I want you to when they do
the sequel, to do scuba again and this time invite
your sister so she could come with you. I'm I'm
making this family reunion, even though I'm not a part
of it. I'm just I'm going to go ahead and
organize and make it happen because I feel her indignation.
I do she is. I'm sure she gonna be like,
I want to do it. No, thank you, you did great.
See he told you.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
About the school questions, the questions.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
The questions and on the school although I wasn't there,
I'm sure we like they like to keep you guessing.
I don't know what else to say. All right, this
last one. There are no wrong answers because this is
literally just your opinions. We're going to do our fast,
fast answer questions. Can you can have with you? I
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hope she helps you answer your questions.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
My anxiety?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I'm sorry, that's adorable. Here we go. We're going to
do our rapid fire questions with Dolores as a co host. Yes,
your favorite movie snack? Just popcorn? Nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I love the mix like a caramel with normal yeah, yeah,
and regular with a lot of chili. Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I put halapanons and popcorn. Yeah, it's it's boring. Pop yeah, popcorn.
The last television show that you binged?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Uh, well, we know something the Shadows when we're.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Doing what we do in the shadows. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No,
I love that. I also love that that actor, he's
really great. Your favorite actor, I mean, alive.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I think it has to be as Lewis.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Daniel Lewis is a pretty good one. I'll give you
that one. That's a good one. That's a really good one.
Who would it be if it was somebody that was dead? Oh,
there's some minds Paul Newman, because I love.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
He's so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean Brando, Yeah, brand Oh, Brando is a good one.
I could see you in street car named Desire. Have
you ever done that?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
No? I wish, I.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Think you should. I could see that going to the
movie theater alone. Yes or no?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Oh yes, definitely do it all the time.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I did it.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
It's weird because some people they you know, and then
you tell your friends. So I went to that with
who by myself? What? Oh my god, why are you
depressed or something?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
No, being depressed, just trying to figure out when y'all
are going to be able to do it, then I
want to be at home depressed. I'm at the movie.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I'm an only child. You can never find me at
a time where my company is now I'm I am
so entertaining to myself. It's lovely. What is your favorite
classic Universal film?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I mean, I think Jurassic Part Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
That's a pretty hard one to be a lot of
people it's like Jurassic ET, or they'll go like older
and do something like Dracula Frankenstein. But most it's like
Jurassic and I always stick with j It's a good choice.
They kind of they've done it. Okay, I don't know
you think yes, Okay, were you not in that theater
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last night, sir? It was? It was insane.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, very good job. Well, thank you and Dolores, you
did amazing and congratulations on the film. Enjoy the ride.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Thank you for having me.