February 28, 2025 • 60 mins
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Ever wondered how to find hope again after loss? Raven gets real about grieving, single parenthood, and how manifestation played a huge role in her healing journey. We talk about rebuilding dreams, finding purpose after tragedy, and making life feel aligned again—even when it feels impossible. This one’s raw, honest, and full of insight you won’t want to miss.
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• Understanding the power of self-awareness in manifestation
• Learning the art of co-creation and making conscious choices
• Introducing the concept of emotional dimensions in relationships
Who's Raven?
Raven is a light worker, healer, business and life coach. She is an entrepreneur at heart, single mother of three beautiful children and soon to be published author.
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8:37 The First Steps to Manifestation
20:46 The Co-Creation of Experience: Understanding the Energetic Exchange
30:27 The Intersection of God and Manifestation
40:33 Trusting the Evolution of Your Path
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Lunden Souza (00:00):
Welcome to Self Love and Sweat the podcast, the
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what sets your soul on fire.
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Get yours for free and let'sget into today's episode.
Welcome back to Self Love andSweat the podcast.
Today's guest is Raven.
Raven is a lightworker, healer,business and life coach.
(01:10):
She's an entrepreneur at heart,single mother of three
beautiful children and soon tobe published author.
Raven, welcome to the podcast.
I'm so happy that you're hereand excited to connect today
Yogi Raven (01:23):
Lunden.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm excited to be here as well.
Lunden Souza (01:27):
When I was thinking about this podcast
today and, yeah, just reflectingand doing kind of my morning
thing as I prepare to be talkingwith you I was thinking about
the first time we met, and wemet in Denver, when we were
recording some promotionalcontent and stuff for the NABA
(01:49):
community that we're both in,and I just met you really quick.
I was on the way out to go tothe airport.
You came in and stopped by tosay hi.
We were all sitting at a tabletogether.
I think it was me, you, Lyndsay, Veronica oh, I should tell you
that Veronica said hi, by theway, I was talking to her on the
phone this morning when shesaid hi.
But as soon as we startedtalking to you, you started
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talking about manifestation.
You started talking about justlike, went right into it of how
you manifested your dreampartner, life, all the different
things and I know that's yourarea of genius is manifestation.
But that's something I rememberright when I met.
You was like and that's what Ilove about people in this way is
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where we bypass all the stuff.
We weren't talking about theweather or like surface level
shit.
We went straight into just howpassionate you are about
manifestation.
So how did you become sopassionate about manifestation?
What's been your journey inthat way?
Yogi Raven (02:53):
Yeah, I won't forget meeting you too.
That was a really magicalmoment and it was like all of us
connected.
I remember you guys walkingdown the hallway from the
elevator and everyone justembraced me.
It was just so beautiful and Ithink that is a testament to the
depth of conversation that youcan have with people.
And so you guys are allmanifestors in your own regard
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and it's really exciting to beconnected with you guys, with
NABA and even just connectingwith Austin.
That was a manifestation initself, and I think that we can
kind of trip ourselves upbecause so much of that
algorithm there's so manyalgorithms behind all of the
computers and the phones that wehave.
We think that synchronicitiescan just be a logical way to
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rationalize something.
But the way that I met Austin,the way that I met you, was
really magical and that's beenthe epitome of my life ever
since I was really young.
I grew up with religion.
My grandparents were devoutMethodists and as I grew up I
was curious about all religionsand spiritualities.
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It was just a craving of mine,but for some reason I had this
connection to the non-physicalrealm that was interacting with
me and I was paying attention toit and it was to the point
where it would rain.
There would be soothingenvironmental experiences based
off of emotional conflict that Iwas going through all the way
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down to the memory of me tryingto raise money for the Avon
three-day breast cancer walk,when I was like really young, I
was like early teens and thehigh school allowed me to host a
car wash and I was like I haveno idea how many people are
going to come if anybody's goingto come and I set a number in
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my head for myself.
I was like it'd be great if Icould raise this amount.
I don't remember what it was atthe time, but that I just let
go.
And before I knew it, the dayhad passed by and we had doubled
that amount and I was justinterested about that.
And so, much to the point, Ihave a tattoo on my back of a
fairy blowing butterflies, andthat constitutes from an
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experience I had growing up,when I was riding bikes with
this neighborhood friend and theweather had just gotten okay,
because in the Midwest it's justcrappy out there all the time
and so we decided to go for thisbike ride and the sun was out
and it was beautiful, and westopped near this Creek and
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there were all these butterfliesby the river and I'm like, oh
my God, I want a butterfly toland on me.
I'm like if a butterfly lands onme, it means something Like I
was just like, hey, youlistening, you know, sort of
thing.
And of course I'm holding myarm out just waiting for this
thing to land on me and nothinghappens.
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So I just let it go and I'mhanging out with my friend and
we're just chilling, we'reenjoying the environment, we're
about to get ready to get ontoour bikes and start riding again
and all of a sudden a butterflyonto our bikes and start riding
again and all of a sudden abutterfly flutters around and
lands on my arm.
And this progressed for about15, 20 minutes where a butterfly
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would just land on me.
And I started having this veryprofound conversation with my
friend, who had happened to be aheroin addict, and we were
talking about God andspirituality, and it was like
these butterflies would land on.
I was sitting cross-legged andthey would land on my shin or
right in front of me and thenfly up and then land back down
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on me.
Stuff like that, experienceslike that that you just can't
make up and that are out of theordinary, for butterflies, for
animals that just come walkingup to you at a random moment.
A lot of people talk about thiswhen a deceased loved one
passes away that a certainanimal will act interesting, out
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of the ordinary, and so that'sbeen the epitome of my life.
I was also resisting my giftsand my abilities ever.
Well, about till about sevenyears ago, when I moved up here
to the mountains and I had myown dark night of the soul and I
was.
I was leading yoga trainings atthe time and I was meeting all
these people that I had nevermet before and I was getting
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these downloads of addiction andabuse and their families and
I'm just like, oh my God, whatis going on?
I felt like I was going crazyand so I had to address it.
So over the last seven years,I've especially dropped into it
and I do sessions for people,and that's where this book came
from, because there's just somuch symbolism in our life.
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Everything is energy, frequency, vibration, but the symbolism
around it.
I don't think that we weretaught, and if we were taught,
we've been misled and we've beenled astray to what our natural
talents and abilities actuallyare.
Lunden Souza (07:58):
That natural manifestation energy.
So I'm so glad that you paintedthat picture for us and that
you leaned into your gifts overthe last seven years.
Like I said, when I first metyou, it was just like you could
just tell that was your jam,your space, what you know,
you've experienced in your lifeand what you can talk about and
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share.
Where do we start?
So, if someone listening maybehas heard the word manifestation
I think most people listeningto this podcast perhaps have
Maybe you've had experiences,maybe they've had experiences
like you, where they can'texplain but then they chalk it
off as like, oh, that probablywas nothing right.
But where do we start if wewant to begin our manifestation
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journey?
Yogi Raven (08:44):
Well recognizing, I think, identifying and
acknowledging that you are amanifesting machine, that that's
what you're here for.
You are co-creating in your ownbody.
How many of us that arelistening to this podcast can
say that you felt connected ordisconnected?
I need to come back to myself.
(09:05):
I lost myself when A, b, c, dand E happened, and so really
understanding that you are hereto create Everything that you
are doing in physical form is ofco-creation in some way, shape
or form, and it starts with us.
So identifying that you havethat quality inside of you
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starts with us.
So identifying that you havethat quality inside of you and
it's part of your every.
It's almost like we justdisregard the you know, parking
spots or the, the, the thingsthat fall into place really
easily in subtle, subtle tones.
Those are the things that wedisregard in our society pro
programming television.
Even our governments candiscredit these qualities, and
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maybe it's because if we're allempowered, what would we do?
What would our society looklike in terms of being able to
control the population?
So the first step is justidentifying.
And I think another thing toois there are qualities around
certain religions that tell youthat you are a sinner, that you
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are not special, and for manygenerations and decades, we've
had something outside of ustelling us about our connection.
We needed a Pope, we needed aguru, we needed something to
help us tap into that source.
And so, even just starting toidentify that you are special,
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you are insignificant andextremely significant at the
same time.
And so identifying.
You know your life matters.
What you do matters.
The things that you say or thatyou don't say, the actions that
you take or that you don't taketruly matter in terms of being
able to manifest larger things,greater outcomes, and some of
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those things take time.
They do.
They take time because you needto change in order for those
things to occur.
So I believe that the firstpart really truly is is just
identifying that I am a create,you are a creator, you are truly
a creator, and owning that andthat has to do with you create
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your day.
You get to decide if you'regoing to get up, if you're going
to go to the gym, if you'regoing to meditate, if you're
going to eat healthy.
Those are personal decisionsand those things trickle out
into the ethers, into everyinterconnection that we have
with everyone and every singlething around us, so that
evolution of ourselves createsevolution around us in terms of
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our daily experiences and thento the collective as well.
Lunden Souza (11:45):
Yeah, yeah.
So what I hear you saying islike that first step is getting
real with what the essence of usbeing here is, like you said,
in co-creation, and diving intothat and what that might look
like.
I think somebody can hear thatand maybe it's a split second
(12:05):
moment of listening to a podcastlike this and hearing that and
remembering that, but I'm surethere's some, yeah, like a
journey to that of being reallytapped into what you just said
of like that we are co-creatingthat.
What we do, our day-to-dayactions matter.
So the first step is like thatawareness and understanding and
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tapping into the co-creation andthen being able to make the
daily choices.
Are you saying like, make thosedaily choices to then be the
version of you that then canattract the things that you want
?
Is that what you're sayingabout the decision to wake up
and eat healthy and go to thegym and take care of your
physical body?
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Are those steps tomanifestation?
Is that what you were saying?
Yogi Raven (12:52):
Yes, yes, and I think taking a, an audit of
yourself and your life and howmuch you are looking for for
energetic validation andconfirmation outside of you, so
that we we, you know we talkabout battery drainers or energy
vampires, we can call thempeople that you have.
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You just feel tired spendingtime with them, people that you
know are are negative sometimes,you know, identifying that that
quality inside of you is reallyhuge.
That that level ofself-awareness that do I need
ever.
Do I need to be on my phonecalling.
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Is it okay for me to be bymyself?
Like, how comfortable are youin your own skin?
Because when you create moreself-awareness inside of you,
the whole as above so as without, as within, so as without, as
above so as below concept reallyis true.
And so there is this.
There's math to it, there's amathematical equation around it,
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it's understanding how much andthis is a new word that's in my
book that I call e-mentions.
Okay, this is the first timeI've talked about it on a
podcast Like dimensions, butwithout the D.
Lunden Souza (14:11):
Like dimensions.
Yogi Raven (14:12):
Yes, so emotional and mental dimensions.
You and I just met for thefirst time, you know, like a
year ago, and so we were feelingeach other's energy and that's
what we do with everybody youknow like.
Is this safe for me to likehave a conversation with you, so
to say, and understanding thateverything is of co-creation?
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So how I show up mentally andemotionally to everything and
everyone around me is clutch andunderstanding if I'm stepping
out of a place of beingtriggered from my past
experiences, or what I callstepping into a place of
neutrality.
And that does not meancomplacency, it means a state of
observation that you can thenchoose to change your behavior
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in some way, shape or form thatwill create a different outcome
in the future for you.
Lunden Souza (15:04):
Thanks for sharing that with us.
I like that word.
Where'd you get that from?
Did you just download it?
I made it up.
Yogi Raven (15:12):
Yeah, no, it's a thing you won't be able to unsee
it now.
It up yeah, no, it's a thingyou won't be able to unsee it
now.
You'll just be like walking into go get your massage and like
what's this dimension that Ihave?
Or seeing your friends.
A good example is when you'rehanging out with someone or
you're in a relationship.
You guys go out to dinner andyou spark a conversation that
starts to get uncomfortable andyou can feel that person shut
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down and it feels like there'sthis huge wall up and they are
now on the other side of theroom and you can't get to them,
you can't have a conversation,you can't be in.
That state of connection withthem is a really good way of
identifying or feeling like weuse it all the time.
I feel close to you, I feeldistant from you, I need space.
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I need to look at this from adifferent angle.
Those are all dimensions thatwe talk about like math.
It's the same way in ourreality as well.
Lunden Souza (16:06):
Yes, I'm excited to ponder that word a little bit
more and look for instances ofthat.
As you were talking, I wasthinking of three instances that
have happened in my life.
All I would consider some formof manifestation, but they were
all very different and so I wantto share them and then you can
(16:27):
let you know.
Just we can kind of go fromthere.
But the first one is so I livedin Austria for a long time.
The position that I had for acompany called Runtastic was
very front-facing.
I was on stage in front ofthousands of people all the time
and I guess maybe four stories.
So because of that stageexperience I remember as a kid
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singing karaoke, performing inmy room, getting that feeling of
being on stage in front ofthousands and just that vibe
right.
Then fast forward, I lived inAustria.
That happened right.
I was on stage in front ofthousands of people, very much
in the public eye.
Then, after a great run there,I decided to step away from that
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and just move into more of whoI was, becoming right and when
you go from being on stage on TVon the things all the time and
then not, I remember having thisvision that I wanted to be able
to be in a white room withwhite walls and nobody, no
things, nothing, and be okay andlove Lunden anyway.
So I had that vision and thatthought.
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And then, um, a bunch offriends of mine, we went to, um,
we do a lot of escape rooms.
When I lived in Austria I hadfriends that we did escape rooms
with, right.
So we're in Budapest oneweekend and we do like seven
escape rooms right, we're justlike fire, we're just like
cognitively challenged, we'redoing the escape rooms Right.
Then the last one.
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This guy was like oh, if youguys love escape rooms, you guys
should go to the white room.
So we go to this escape roomand lo and behold, it's a white
room with white walls and youhave to figure out how to do the
room right.
Little one there.
Another one my first week-longmeditation retreat with Dr Joe
in Cancun.
I booked all the things but Ijust didn't book the shuttle.
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I didn't remember to book theshuttle from the airport to go
to the hotel.
But I was like, oh well, it'sgoing to work out, I'm just
going to arrive and there'sgoing to be a solution.
I just had that feeling thatthat was going to happen.
So I get there.
I haven't booked the thing.
I'm like I'm just going tofigure it out, maybe I'll get
Wi-Fi and call and figure outhow to get on the next shuttle.
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Right when I walk out to theshuttle areas, this guy's
holding a sign that says Dr Joeshuttle and I was like, oh, I
didn't make a reservation, butthis is where I need to go.
He's like it's okay, we haveroom for you, come on Right,
just like super easy.
The last one is when I moved toUtah.
So I left Austria, moved backto California where my family
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was then was ready for this nextchapter of my life, whatever it
would look like.
And this time I took pen topaper.
I wrote down what I wanted,where I was going to live, what
it was going to smell like, whatI was going to do, even putting
my feet in streams with rocks,that the water was just passing
right at ankle height.
So that time it was very muchlike I wrote down pen to paper
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and then, lo and behold, here Iam with all of these.
I go through that list a lotand I'm like check, check, check
, check.
So I share all of those storiesbecause I just, yeah, they're
moments of what we're talkingabout now in my life, but
sometimes it was like a feeling,sometimes it was a list,
sometimes it was just a knowingthat things were going to be
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taken care of.
Are those all forms ofmanifestation formula, or what's
the best way to go aboutcreating more experiences that
we want?
Yogi Raven (19:55):
Yeah, well, I mean, you're you're privy to this
because you're you're definitelyconnected with, with Joe, and
Joe talks a lot about this.
Um, but what you did bring up,there were four things that you.
You brought up four differentscenarios, but they had all four
of them had similarcircumstances, and what it was
was your vision.
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Similar circumstances and whatit was was your vision.
You envisioned somethinghappening before it did, and
that's those are the pieces,right, it's we talk about, like
we have the five senses, butthese are, they're extended.
We have these intuitive sensesabout us as well, and so that's
where, when we get into a placeof self-awareness or meditation,
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we then can clear our channelsso that we can receive those
visions for us and actuallyreach towards them.
The thing that you'reexperiencing wants you to
experience it.
It's of a co-creation in itself.
There's something of yourfuture or something some other
person that you know that you'reworking with that is there's.
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I'll say this there's norelationship or experience that
anybody has that is one sidedOkay.
So, even if you're in anunhealthy relationship which I'm
sort of citing from here butboth parties are getting
something out of it, there's afeeding, sort of a container
between the two of them.
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So, absolutely identifying yes,you are a co-creating machine
and your mind isn't just thereto do math, so you can do
accounting, so you can just getby with your bills.
You know it's there so that youcan feel compelled, feel
passionate about something.
What drives you, what excitesyou.
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Those things are what we're,that's our birthright.
We're here to experience joy,and that joy, I'm sure, comes
from places of understanding,suffering, places of
experiencing pain.
And so I think another thing forpeople to identify and
understand is part ofmanifesting is painful sometimes
, and you didn't really shareany pieces of overcoming
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obstacles to get to that point,and I'm sure you did along the
way from getting to where you'reat, to going to Austria and
then developing yourself evenfurther.
But we have this sort ofblueprint.
Every single person has a pathand it's up to us.
It's like a choose your ownadventure, and I believe that we
sort of hit these markers, likelife is sort of like okay,
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we're on this trajectory, wehave these cycles, we have these
patterns.
This is something that everysingle person goes through.
But how much are youidentifying the patterns and are
doing the same thing, or areyou just staying, you're
refusing to grow, you'rerefusing to feel, you're
refusing to change in some way,shape or form.
So life is going to presentsomething to you that will shock
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you into it.
So sometimes that's breaking.
I broke my femur, I fractured myfemur a couple of years ago and
that brought me to my knees.
It was the most.
That was worse than childbirth,I'll tell you, and I had three
of them.
But you know that, like when wehave upsets, when we have
difficulties on top of that,those alter you and they shift
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you, sometimes because you'renot willing to, and they shift
you sometimes because you're notwilling to Right.
And so so manifestation is, isis really like learning how to
be your own authentic self ineverything, throughout all of
your experiences in life.
And that can be sometimes hard,because we have this old story
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from our upbringing.
It's this subconsciouspatterning that gets formed like
a computer, programmed in yourbrain, like a system, and then
we perceive our reality as fightor flight.
Something is threatening,something is challenging to us,
but really, ultimately, we haveto ask ourselves how much are we
feeling good about ourselves?
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Or how much are we feelingguilty, shameful, resentful,
fearful, because these are lowervibrations that will inhibit
you from actually taking actiontowards the thing that you want
to experience.
It will help.
It will inhibit you fromcreating connection and creating
intimacy and relationships thatyou really truly want to have.
Lunden Souza (24:16):
Yeah, a lot of the well and this kind of segues
into what I was.
Yeah, want to ask you next, andwhat I was thinking about is
like the level of detachmentnecessary in order to manifest.
Because you know, I can thinkof and I know we'll talk about
different areas of our life andmanifesting.
But there's some areas I canthink of in my life where I'm
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very detached to the outcome andthat co-creation process seems
easy and effortless.
And I also know that from whatI know about manifestation and
also just being human and makingall the mistakes of things that
I talk about too, is like youknow that needy energy, you know
the wanting to manifest out offear of losing it or not having
it or whatever.
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I know that's not the way to go.
So what level of detachment dowe need?
Kind of like the butterflymoment, where you had your hand
out hoping for the butterfly andthen it didn't come.
But then you kind of like yousaid butterfly and then it
didn't come, but then you kindof like you said I just like let
it go, and then, lo and behold,it was butterfly land.
When later on you know, so likewhere, what is the level of
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detachment necessary formanifestation, and then like how
do we detach from those areaswe want to manifest in when we
might feel a little bit of likethe needy energy or like stage
five clinger energy to thatparticular scenario we want to
create?
Yogi Raven (25:41):
you know, yeah, I think that this goes back into
the question of how self-awareare you?
Because there's really only twoways to transform, and that's
mentally, emotionally.
My partner argues that it'sphysically as well, but the mind
and the body are connected.
I believe that we are like abattery, and so the more that we
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understand how we arepositively, negatively and
neutrally charged with our mindand our emotions, then we can
become like that.
Knowledge truly is power.
It really is power, it iselectricity, it is capacity, it
is magnetism.
It causes people to want toknow you or be repelled and not
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be near you.
A, either because you've got anegative energy, or B, because
they're intimidated by how muchyou are standing in your own
worth, in your own value, and sothe level of detachment is huge
and that's not sociopathic.
That's the place of neutral.
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That's the place of being okaywith feeling bad, being okay
with feeling really good, beingneutral to difficult situations
so that you can absorb thenutrients and the lessons,
because really that's all thatwe have.
We only have the ability tolearn and to do something
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different.
So it really is like knowing.
I get sparked when I do this.
Why is it that?
Because I feel abandoned andrejected, I'm afraid.
Why?
Because this thing happened tome when I was four years old and
my dad left and I never saw him.
So then we punish the people infront of us for the fears that
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we have concerning that they maydo the same thing to us.
We will continue to repeat thatpattern.
So we have to be in that stateof neutrality observation, the
observer, the witnesser, thatthing, that part of you that's
inside of you, that is timelessand it's ageless and it's
unconditional.
It watches you go from age fourto 40 and it does not judge it,
(27:51):
just it guides.
It guides you if you allow it.
Lunden Souza (28:05):
Yeah, yeah, that guidance for sure.
Oh, so much good stuff.
How do you, um, how do youteach your kids to manifest,
like, do you?
You have three?
I know you have three kids andyou know we are all kind of we.
We are born with this essenceand then, for one reason or
another, the way that we'reraised, school, how you know, I
feel like we forget how muchpower and creative energy and
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manifestation energy that wehave.
And how do you preserve that inyour kids and teach them and
parents like a manifestationmindset, let's say?
Yogi Raven (28:39):
Well, it's a cute little thing.
We actually I had a friend herevisiting a couple of days ago
and my, my girls were searching,because their friend lost their
tooth and so she had thislittle tooth necklace.
They had misplaced it.
And so you hear them, we haveto ask the angels to help us
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find the necklace.
Ask the angels.
So they're walking around theroom because angel is just a
word, but I mean really, wordsare just symbols, and symbols
are just, it's just thevibration, it's just the
frequency, even you think oflike homeopathy and how they
work with the medicines and thesugar tablets.
And so I tell them you know,ask the angels.
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We have guides, we have otherthings outside of us.
You know that that can help us.
And there was a situation wewere at the grocery store.
I was just with my daughter andshe was like mom, can I have
this?
It was a taffy apple.
And I was like no, and we justkept walking and this woman
comes up.
She's like excuse me, I am agrandmother and I overheard your
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daughter saying she wanted ataffy apple and I just wanted to
buy it for her.
So she like gave me the money.
Look at you.
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So I try to insert it where Ican you know, but also they're.
They're in a very interestingcircumstance, based off of what
they just experienced, and sothey're really questioning why,
why bad things happen, whythings go wrong, and so it's
something I'm sort of massagingthrough as the days progress and
as they get older, so they cancognitively truly understand
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what I'm saying.
Lunden Souza (30:27):
Yeah, and I want to talk too about the journey of
your family and the loss youguys have experienced and how
you continue to manifest andcreate through a lot of pain and
hurt, and those probably aren'teven words that capture the
feeling that your family hasexperienced this year and before
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that.
I want to ask about God andmanifestation.
You mentioned your kids askingthe angels.
Do you feel like God?
A belief in a higher power hasto also exist with manifestation
.
Can you manifest without thisbelief in God?
And also, coming from areligious upbringing as well,
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we're often taught that youcan't manifest and believe in
God.
Right, but do they go hand inhand or how do you see that?
Yogi Raven (31:23):
I believe that words , again, are just symbols, and
when I say the word God, everysingle person that's listening
to this podcast is going to havea different image of it.
Just as I was saying, there'sonly all we have is the ability
to learn, and that's learningthrough what we've been told or
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what we've read or our personalexperiences, but, at the end of
the day, we really don't knowwhere these texts came from, who
wrote them, which one is right,which one is wrong, and so
that's where I highly encouragepeople to go back into the
vibrational, energetic.
One of the things that I say isthink like light, feel like
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energy and move like a magnet,because that's all that we are.
We're made up of millions,billions atoms that create our
physical form, and these atomsare made of protons, neutrons
and electrons, which arepositive, negative and neutral.
We have positive, negative andneutral thoughts.
We have positive, negative andneutral emotions, and so,
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underneath whatever it is thatyou are believing in, you need
to ask yourself if you're inalignment with it and if it
feels good to you.
And if it's, you need to askyourself if you're in alignment
with it and if it feels good toyou and if it's taking you in a
good direction.
That's what I say.
I believe that we don't reallytruly know.
I have high respect for sacredtexts in the Bible.
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I've had manifesting veryinteresting experiences with it
as well, and so that's why it'sjust giving me this inclination
that it's far beyond the wholeidea of what we know of God or
Jesus or Yeshua or the Buddha,all of those things.
So that's where we have to goback into our own level of
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self-reliance.
Does this feel okay to me?
Does this feel in alignment?
And I went through when I wasgrowing up.
I went through my own personalexperiences of feeling like I
was connecting to the devil.
There was some devil worshipinginvolved, like all of the fear,
sort of things that happened.
But I will also tell you thatthe sessions that I do for
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people have done nothing buthelp them.
You, that the sessions that Ido for people have done nothing
but help them.
That the information that Ichannel through and that I
assist people with only helpsthem evolve and grow.
And typically, when we thinkabout the devil and things that
are bad, it's like bringing youdown a bad path so you can
manifest, because you are aphysical human being in three
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dimension.
That's what you're here for.
That's what you're doing everysingle day.
It's beyond, if you ask me,it's beyond religion and
spirituality.
It's our birthright.
Lunden Souza (34:10):
Got it yeah.
So yes and no, I guess, is theanswer to that question.
Like, if it feels in alignmentfor you to relate those things
to create, then that's the paththat you're on.
Yogi Raven (34:27):
Yeah, I mean, there's just so much outside of
our reality that we're justtapping into and there's so many
people that have had reallyprofound experiences where
they've flipped out of cars.
And I had a friend where thishappened.
She flipped out of her, her carflipped and she was on the side
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of this country road and thisman walks up to her that is
really strong and blonde andbright blue eyes and he just
seemed like he was glowing andhe like helped her get out of
the car and made sure that shewas okay and then all of a
sudden she sort of like lookedaround and he had just
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disappeared and then all theseother people came to help her.
So you know, these near deathexperiences, there's just remote
viewing.
There's near-death experiences.
There's just remote viewing.
There's something about energythat we're just scraping the
surface on on the collective andunderstanding what we truly are
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and what our thoughts and ourminds can really take us, and so
I think that's something toexplore and to navigate and
investigate.
That's what you're here for.
Who are you?
And this is another thing thatmost people don't know about,
and this is another thing I'mtalking about on the podcast.
We call ourselves human beingsbut we don't actually realize
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that that word, the originationof that word, comes from
hominucleus, which means tiny,human, artificially produced.
It's based off of an alchemical, philosophical question of
which came first the chicken orthe egg?
That is what we label ourselvesas.
That's the quandary.
So, which is the point ofmanifestation in itself and
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understanding, we grow, butwe're the same person.
We but we're, but we're yet thesame as we were when we were a
baby, our characteristics, ourqualities, so there's just this.
It's this over or a borisinfinity, constantly going
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within our own selves to exploreand transform what we know to
be true.
So if we're constantly feelinglike we're disempowered or we're
in a place of victim mode,which is an archetype every
single human on the planet ishaving to overcome, you're going
to stay in a lower vibrationalstate and things will not
necessarily All the things thatyou're wishing for you won't
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receive because you're notputting action into it.
There's this place of you gotto do work too.
You have to put the effort inand say I'm willing to show up
to God, the universe, theenergies, whatever it is, in
order for me to experience thisthing, because I know it to be
true.
It excites me inside and, Ithink, getting into a place of
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joy.
Most people have becomelistless.
They're just like oh, it's justa groundhog day, this is just
the way that it is.
Right.
And so it's like how could youimagine anything else?
Because this is you believe sohardly in this outcome You're
not thinking about that Joetalks about.
We need to step into and fullybelieve what that future version
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of you feels like, connect init so much that it just pulls
you and propels you to the rightpeople, places and things,
circumstances and outcomes thatwill allow that thing to align
and be realized in physical formalign and be realized in
physical form.
Lunden Souza (38:04):
Yes, and it makes me think a lot about my
transition from being more of afitness personality, the
workouts and I just remember andI talk about this on my podcast
a lot and in differentinterviews like that work in
process is so, so important ofexactly what you said, of like
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that future version.
How does she feel now and howcan I feel that now?
And the power in that we think,if we want change, we just got
to work harder and do more andexercise more, do more things.
But that inner introspection oflike sitting with how you want
to feel, getting beyond thosestuck in tough emotions, is,
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yeah, a game changer.
A game changer.
Yogi Raven (38:48):
Um, and I'd like to ask you, Lunden, you know what.
Do you think that all of yourfitness experiences that you had
prior to taught you and ishelping, aid and assist you in
what you're doing now?
Lunden Souza (39:03):
For sure, the power of doing hard things and
also, just, I'm really gratefulfor that chapter because I
learned a lot of ways to reallymake sure I'm taking care of my
physical body.
This is my vessel that I get todo my thing with, and so, even
if I'm not teaching fitness,embodying that fit avatar, being
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strong, doing the hard thingwith my physical body, coming
into my body, feeling strong andenergized my word of this year,
two words I had integrity andendurance, but endurance when it
came to physical but alsoemotional stuff, and I feel like
, yeah, working out and the wayyou move your body transcends
into a lot of areas of your life.
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So I've learned, yeah, how todo hard things and to appreciate
this body that I have.
Yogi Raven (39:53):
And so what was it that compelled you to change
careers?
Lunden Souza (40:07):
compelled you to change careers.
Yeah, I just knew there was aculmination of.
I just remember getting a lotof questions about, like, what
exercise can I do to fix this?
How many calories does thisworkout burn?
And I just was like over it, Idon't want to answer those
questions anymore.
And then I remember, yeah, justdecide, it was the end of 2020,
I believe when I fully just waslike not going to teach on that
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anymore, that's not going to bemy main focus.
But I just wasn't.
Yeah, I wanted to haveconversations like this and go
beyond if you had a wiggly armor a muffin top or not.
I just that wasn't where Iwanted to be anymore.
Yogi Raven (40:45):
Which is a really great example of the evolution
right.
It's like the stacking offoundation.
You gained confidence in whatyou were doing and you're like
you know what?
I'm going to do a podcast now.
I've had so many conversations,I've been on stages with
thousands of people and I'mgoing to do a podcast now.
I've had so many conversations,I've been on stages with
thousands of people and I'mready to go deeper and I'm ready
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to feed my soul in another way.
And I think that that's anotherthing that most people don't
look at everything that thehindsight that happened to them
in their past and how it ledthem up to this point.
Like you're saying, thehindsight that happened to them
in their past and how it ledthem up to this point.
Like you're saying, I just wasover it, I was just done.
I was done learning and sharingand helping in that way and I
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was ready to do somethingdifferent.
And that calling that insightis something that most people
don't recognize and acknowledge.
Something's telling you youwant to go somewhere else, you
want to learn something new, youwant to learn something new,
you want to share in some newway and to trust that.
Oftentimes, we don't trust that.
Lunden Souza (41:46):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I'm grateful that youasked me those questions because
helped me reflect a little bit.
The last thing I want to talkabout or tap into is tap into is
manifesting through when youlose someone that you love and
when life does its life thingand it maybe isn't joyful in the
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moment.
I would love for you to sharewhat you want to share when it
comes to the loss youexperienced this year and how
you're continuing to believe increation and, like you said,
with your kids and their beliefin manifestation based on this
loss.
What's that been like?
Yogi Raven (42:29):
So I want to take this a little further back
because I want to preface, andmaybe this is something that is
a take home for everybody.
But I was with my husband for15 years and when I met him, a
voice in my head said you'regoing to marry that man, and
then six months later he askedme out and we were together ever
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since that point, and so I knewthat it was a special
relationship from the get-go.
But as we progressed throughour relationship, we did some
learning and some growing andand things started getting
difficult between the two of usand so we were actually in in
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the process of, unfortunately,getting a divorce and we had.
What's really interesting aboutthis is that trying to act for
the highest good and for thegreatest good of all.
If you could just use thatsentence, write it on a sticky
note Say it again.
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Act for the highest good and thegreatest good of all.
Lunden Souza (43:35):
Act for the highest good and the greatest
good of all, yes, good and thegreatest good of all.
Yogi Raven (43:41):
Yes, and so relationships and separation can
be difficult.
It can be really hard forpeople emotionally to feel and
to move through, and so that wassomething that I really held at
the high point of what I wasnavigating with my relationship
with Matt, and we were stillco-parenting, we were living
together, but things weregetting very strained and he was
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really pushing me away.
He didn't want to pay for me,which I found out was illegal.
When you're married, youactually have your income is
combined.
But I was in this position oftrying to figure out.
I was scattered, trying tofigure out how I was going to
start making income, how I wasgoing to pay for my children,
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all three of them.
He didn't want us to still livetogether, he didn't want to
nest, which is you rotate aroundthe children, and so I was
scrambling, trying to get mybook out, trying to start
working with new clients,starting to generate, because I
was taking care of the kids andhe was travel nursing for a
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couple of years, just to givethis backdrop of it.
And so I would say in shambles,and I was experiencing a lot of
like PTSD and stress, albeit Iwas creating and trying to think
as positive as I possibly couldand act with respect and love
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to Matt.
And so I will say that I had afew dreams leading up to the
experience that wereforeshadowings, and I did not
know the brevity of them, so Ihad one on March 26th and then
one on June 9th and he passedaway on June 22nd.
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And so we live up in the RoaringFork Valley and so there's a
lot of fly fishing and rafting,stand-up paddle boarding, we
float to the exit of our house,essentially, and the river was
really high it was the highestit had been, with the snow
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running off, so you can imaginethe river was running about like
10 miles an hour in speed, andthe week prior he had asked me
if he could go on a quick floatwith some of his friends that
had invited him and that hewould take the kids if I was
busy, and I sternly expressed no, I will watch the children.
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We had just been talking aboutpeople drowning there had been
numerous drownings already inthe season and that I was very
concerned about the speed of theriver, the season, and that I
was very concerned about thespeed of the river.
Well, I went out of town thenext day or the next week to
South Carolina with my partner,because we were both seeing
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other people at that time andthe way that I met Rob actually
was very profound in itself.
That's a side story in theimpacts that he's made.
So I was in South Carolina atthe time and I had gotten really
exhausted, very out of it andasked to go take a nap.
And when I went to, we went totake a nap and about 20 minutes
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later I got the phone call thathe had taken the kids on the
river with his brother and dog.
And my children are 10.
My daughter was seven at thetime and my youngest is five.
And within 10 minutes of thetrip they hit a rapid and it's
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what I've been told, one of thegnarliest rapids in all of
Colorado, and they were in a flyfishing drift boat.
So there's no buoyancy, there'sno like a raft has a ton of air
in it and it floats on thewater.
This was just all of the weightof everybody and it was about a
10 foot drop.
So the water just smashed intothe boat and pushed everybody
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out and Matt was the only onenot wearing a life preserver and
so he drowned in my daughter'sarms.
They had to let him go.
It was very, very traumatic.
My brother-in-law grabbed my,my brother-in-law grabbed my.
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So when the boat flipped, matthad all three of the kids and
Nick had Oogie, his dog, whoactually just passed away like
two weeks ago, and he saw Mattstruggling.
So he swam over and grabbedJasper, my son.
And this is what's veryinteresting too about the
circumstance was because theyhad gotten to the ramp and Matt
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realized he didn't have a lifePFD, a life preserver for his
brother, and so he asked him doyou want one, do you care?
And he's like I probably shouldget one.
So they went back to the houseand they picked mine up and he,
he gave him mine.
And if they hadn't done that,they would have been in front of
this raft company and theywould have been missed.
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So what happened was this raftcompany was coming out of uh
from a uh commercial trip, andthey saw the boat flipped over
and passing by, and then theysaw Matt with my two girls and
Nick and Jasper, and so theyknew immediately to get back
into the river and help recovereverybody.
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And so they went and Nick andJasper finally made it to shore.
Nick and Jasper finally made itto shore so they immediately
went over, grabbed them and theywent and they grabbed my
daughter, pepper, and thenPrairie.
My youngest was the last one tobe recovered.
It was 40-degree temps.
They could have experiencedhypothermia, they could have
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died in the water if that raftcompany was not there to
preserve them.
I mean, my daughters literallyhad to let Matt go because he
had drowned.
So it's insanely traumatic and Ifind myself, when I go out to
places with my partner, like wewent to a birthday party and I
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was like meeting all of thesepeople and I was doing my best
to navigate, not talking aboutit because a I don't want it to
be the label of who I am or mychildren, because this entire
Valley knows.
It was on the newspaper Go fundme.
My friend set up a go fund meand a large amount of money was
raised for my family, hence someof the blessings that occurred.
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Hence some of the blessingsthat occurred.
There were situations like, twoyears prior to Matt passing
away, we refinanced and myfriend helped us refinance and
she highly stressed to getbecause he bought the house
without me.
My credit wasn't great at thetime and so she stressed to put
me on the mortgage if anythinghappened.
And so we were literally on theverge of having mediation the
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day before I flew out and Icanceled it, and if we had
agreed to a divorce, if we hadcome to some settlement, I would
not have this house.
I would not be in a position tobe able to take care of my
children.
The funds that were gifted tous and donated to us have
created the space for me togrieve and take care of my
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children, who are I mean, it'snot.
This is part of life, and thisis how I told my children when I
came home of life, and this ishow I told my children when I
came home that death and birthare part of our experiences
being human and in our life, andwe just don't know when that's
going to happen to us, and sopart of us experiencing life is
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experiencing not having theirfather anymore, and we don't
know why it happened, but we canonly learn from the experience,
and he has shown up in manyways already.
Another really cool example theday after the celebration was on
(51:54):
a Sunday and I met up with anew friend to go climbing, and I
was really hesitant.
Actually, to be honest with you, I was like I need to start
working, I need to start makingmoney.
This was two months after hehad passed away.
It's three months, two and ahalf months, and I just was
battling in my head We've alldone that.
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We're like should I go, shouldI not go?
Should I do it, should I not doit?
And something was like you needto go just release and have fun
and go climb, just have a goodtime.
So I met up with her and weclimbed a couple of routes and
we were going to the car to goto another location and climb
and this man starts walking up.
(52:36):
I just noticed him andsomething in my head was like
I'm supposed to talk to him.
He has something for me.
It was very split second, veryfast knowing, and he walked by
me and as he did, I looked athis shirt and he had a shirt.
I'm sure no one on this pot onthis will know of this
restaurant, but it's called Kenand Sue's will know of this
(53:02):
restaurant, but it's called Kenand Sue's.
And what's interesting aboutthat is I had told a story at
the celebration of life about myhusband had a nickname and it
was buck and he actually had a abuck tattoo jumping over his
butt.
Lunden Souza (53:13):
Crack, he was he was give a little insight on his
personality.
He was real, memorable.
Yogi Raven (53:21):
We're just going to say that we were both kind of
out there and we kind of met inthis like out there middle, so
to say.
So he was working in Durango atthis restaurant called Ken and
Sue's and there were a bunch ofguys named Matt there, and so
the manager was like you need topick a different name.
And he's like, how about BuckNaked?
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He's like, get rid of the nakedand you can be Buck.
And so he has, like a huge partof his friends know him as Buck
, and then everybody out hereknew him as Matt.
And so I shared that funnystory.
And so I'm talking to this guyand I'm like, oh my gosh, you
have a Ken and Sue shirt.
I've never seen the shirt, I'venever seen anybody wear it, and
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it's the day after thecelebration.
And what was so interestingabout that was he he didn't live
in Durango anymore, he wasn'tworking at Ken and Sue's and he
only visited this climbinglocation maybe once a year.
And I'm like, well, what arethe odds?
Right, what are the statisticalodds?
That of all days you decide tocome out and climb here and of
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all days you decide to pick upthat shirt and wear it.
Like statistically speaking.
So that was a really profoundlike okay, I see you, I see you,
you know, and.
And that was like maybe Iwouldn't have seen that if I
didn't go and he would havetried to connect with me in
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another way.
I mean, he's come throughdreams, stuff like that.
And these are the things thatpeople we got really stuck on
when people pass away and I knowthat I'm talking very calmly
about this A because I'veexperienced a lot of death in my
life.
I do shamanic sessions forpeople.
I channel deceased loved ones.
I have a very differentunderstanding and relationship
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with death and dying than mostpeople.
And B because I have I'm onthis podcast with you and I'm
talking matter of factly, butthat does not negate the fact
that I have moments of sadnessand crying and devastation and
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paralysis, Like the first week.
I couldn't move, I couldn't doanything, I couldn't think it
was, it was a lot, you know.
So, um, that's what happenedand now it'll be six months, on
the 22nd, it might.
You know, we talk about it andthat's that's.
My big thing right now isteaching my children to not make
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this their story but part ofwho they are and and help it.
Help them grow from what theyhad from their father and the
lack of him, but not make thispart of their victimizing
devastation.
I can't live.
Life sucks.
It's not worth living.
Everything goes bad, sort ofthing, which can happen to a lot
(56:19):
of us if we don't allowourselves to see the blessings
that have occurred as a result,and it's really, really sad to
say that, but it isunfortunately true.
Lunden Souza (56:34):
It takes time.
I'm sure there's days whereyou're, like you said, paralyzed
and devastated and big emotions, and then some days where you
have more clarity to see, wow,this might I have my best friend
, kara.
She's in our NABA community aswell and she lost her husband
almost two years ago and herability to see.
(56:54):
She'll sometimes like she'llsay, like God had to take Ryan,
like he just had to, and whenshe looks at all the things that
she learned about what washappening in their relationship
before he passed away and theexperiences now, it always just
full body, like goosebumps, andjust like you did too, where
you're like and I, yeah, I don'tknow what it's like to lose a
(57:19):
partner and I can't imagine,yeah, that grief and I noticed
that similarity in both of youwhere she will say things like
yeah, but because this happened,then this and then this and
then this, and if he wouldn'thave died, then this.
And even every week, her and Iwell, her and I talk like every
day, but there's like alwayssomething, some way, that she's
(57:41):
choosing, not the victim storyand choosing, you know, every
week, her and I well, her and Italk like every day, but there's
like always something, some waythat she's choosing not the
victim story and choosing um youknow exactly what she said like
this had to happen.
It couldn't have not happened,and I'm really beginning to see
that and I feel like that's whatyou shared as well.
Um, I'm so grateful for you,raven, and for you coming on the
podcast and sharing all of your, everything, all of it.
(58:03):
I appreciate you so much and I,yeah, when I was talking to
Veronica this morning, I waslike, oh yeah, I've talked to
Raven a little bit when I firstmet her and you know, she
reached out saying she was readyto talk and be on the podcast,
and I was just, yeah, superexcited to get to know you more
through this conversation too,which is my favorite part is not
(58:24):
talking about all the thingsbefore waiting until we press
record and being able to have avery real and authentic
conversation.
So I appreciate you so much.
I know there's many peoplelistening that are deeply, yeah,
transformed because of yousharing your story today.
Where can people connect withyou further?
(58:44):
Social media website, if theywant to connect with you.
What's the best way for that?
We'll include all the links inthe show notes.
Yogi Raven (58:53):
Yeah, I do want to say really quick I heard a
statistic that about 70% to 80%of the population has
experienced trauma and I thinkthat that's the biggest thing
that people really get stuck onin terms of manifesting, because
we don't find the joy anymore.
So I just want to express thatto the viewers, like you're not
alone in what I would say you'regoing through, and that you
(59:18):
have what it takes inside of youto get through and to lean into
your support systems and digdeep.
So you can find me at it'sitsjustraven.
com.
My website is going live in thenext few days.
I've just revamped it.
It used to be yogi ravencomthat was sort of my identity,
but now it's.
It's just Raven.
No, no, apostrophe, it'sitsjustraven.
(59:39):
com.
It's just Raven.
No, no, apostrophe, it'sitsjustraven.
com.
And um, I'd love to speak toanyone, support anybody that's
looking to uplevel their lives,looking how to learning how to
manifest.
Lunden Souza (59:53):
I work with companies as well, and I'm just
excited to share this message.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate you.
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Welcome back to Self Love andSweat the podcast.
Today's guest is Raven.
Raven is a lightworker, healer,business and life coach.
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She's an entrepreneur at heart,single mother of three
beautiful children and soon tobe published author.
Raven, welcome to the podcast.
I'm so happy that you're hereand excited to connect today
Yogi Raven (01:23):
Lunden.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm excited to be here as well.
Lunden Souza (01:27):
When I was thinking about this podcast
today and, yeah, just reflectingand doing kind of my morning
thing as I prepare to be talkingwith you I was thinking about
the first time we met, and wemet in Denver, when we were
recording some promotionalcontent and stuff for the NABA
(01:49):
community that we're both in,and I just met you really quick.
I was on the way out to go tothe airport.
You came in and stopped by tosay hi.
We were all sitting at a tabletogether.
I think it was me, you, Lyndsay, Veronica oh, I should tell you
that Veronica said hi, by theway, I was talking to her on the
phone this morning when shesaid hi.
But as soon as we startedtalking to you, you started
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talking about manifestation.
You started talking about justlike, went right into it of how
you manifested your dreampartner, life, all the different
things and I know that's yourarea of genius is manifestation.
But that's something I rememberright when I met.
You was like and that's what Ilove about people in this way is
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where we bypass all the stuff.
We weren't talking about theweather or like surface level
shit.
We went straight into just howpassionate you are about
manifestation.
So how did you become sopassionate about manifestation?
What's been your journey inthat way?
Yogi Raven (02:53):
Yeah, I won't forget meeting you too.
That was a really magicalmoment and it was like all of us
connected.
I remember you guys walkingdown the hallway from the
elevator and everyone justembraced me.
It was just so beautiful and Ithink that is a testament to the
depth of conversation that youcan have with people.
And so you guys are allmanifestors in your own regard
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and it's really exciting to beconnected with you guys, with
NABA and even just connectingwith Austin.
That was a manifestation initself, and I think that we can
kind of trip ourselves upbecause so much of that
algorithm there's so manyalgorithms behind all of the
computers and the phones that wehave.
We think that synchronicitiescan just be a logical way to
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rationalize something.
But the way that I met Austin,the way that I met you, was
really magical and that's beenthe epitome of my life ever
since I was really young.
I grew up with religion.
My grandparents were devoutMethodists and as I grew up I
was curious about all religionsand spiritualities.
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It was just a craving of mine,but for some reason I had this
connection to the non-physicalrealm that was interacting with
me and I was paying attention toit and it was to the point
where it would rain.
There would be soothingenvironmental experiences based
off of emotional conflict that Iwas going through all the way
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down to the memory of me tryingto raise money for the Avon
three-day breast cancer walk,when I was like really young, I
was like early teens and thehigh school allowed me to host a
car wash and I was like I haveno idea how many people are
going to come if anybody's goingto come and I set a number in
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my head for myself.
I was like it'd be great if Icould raise this amount.
I don't remember what it was atthe time, but that I just let
go.
And before I knew it, the dayhad passed by and we had doubled
that amount and I was justinterested about that.
And so, much to the point, Ihave a tattoo on my back of a
fairy blowing butterflies, andthat constitutes from an
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experience I had growing up,when I was riding bikes with
this neighborhood friend and theweather had just gotten okay,
because in the Midwest it's justcrappy out there all the time
and so we decided to go for thisbike ride and the sun was out
and it was beautiful, and westopped near this Creek and
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there were all these butterfliesby the river and I'm like, oh
my God, I want a butterfly toland on me.
I'm like if a butterfly lands onme, it means something Like I
was just like, hey, youlistening, you know, sort of
thing.
And of course I'm holding myarm out just waiting for this
thing to land on me and nothinghappens.
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So I just let it go and I'mhanging out with my friend and
we're just chilling, we'reenjoying the environment, we're
about to get ready to get ontoour bikes and start riding again
and all of a sudden a butterflyonto our bikes and start riding
again and all of a sudden abutterfly flutters around and
lands on my arm.
And this progressed for about15, 20 minutes where a butterfly
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would just land on me.
And I started having this veryprofound conversation with my
friend, who had happened to be aheroin addict, and we were
talking about God andspirituality, and it was like
these butterflies would land on.
I was sitting cross-legged andthey would land on my shin or
right in front of me and thenfly up and then land back down
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on me.
Stuff like that, experienceslike that that you just can't
make up and that are out of theordinary, for butterflies, for
animals that just come walkingup to you at a random moment.
A lot of people talk about thiswhen a deceased loved one
passes away that a certainanimal will act interesting, out
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of the ordinary, and so that'sbeen the epitome of my life.
I was also resisting my giftsand my abilities ever.
Well, about till about sevenyears ago, when I moved up here
to the mountains and I had myown dark night of the soul and I
was.
I was leading yoga trainings atthe time and I was meeting all
these people that I had nevermet before and I was getting
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these downloads of addiction andabuse and their families and
I'm just like, oh my God, whatis going on?
I felt like I was going crazyand so I had to address it.
So over the last seven years,I've especially dropped into it
and I do sessions for people,and that's where this book came
from, because there's just somuch symbolism in our life.
(07:40):
Everything is energy, frequency, vibration, but the symbolism
around it.
I don't think that we weretaught, and if we were taught,
we've been misled and we've beenled astray to what our natural
talents and abilities actuallyare.
Lunden Souza (07:58):
That natural manifestation energy.
So I'm so glad that you paintedthat picture for us and that
you leaned into your gifts overthe last seven years.
Like I said, when I first metyou, it was just like you could
just tell that was your jam,your space, what you know,
you've experienced in your lifeand what you can talk about and
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share.
Where do we start?
So, if someone listening maybehas heard the word manifestation
I think most people listeningto this podcast perhaps have
Maybe you've had experiences,maybe they've had experiences
like you, where they can'texplain but then they chalk it
off as like, oh, that probablywas nothing right.
But where do we start if wewant to begin our manifestation
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journey?
Yogi Raven (08:44):
Well recognizing, I think, identifying and
acknowledging that you are amanifesting machine, that that's
what you're here for.
You are co-creating in your ownbody.
How many of us that arelistening to this podcast can
say that you felt connected ordisconnected?
I need to come back to myself.
(09:05):
I lost myself when A, b, c, dand E happened, and so really
understanding that you are hereto create Everything that you
are doing in physical form is ofco-creation in some way, shape
or form, and it starts with us.
So identifying that you havethat quality inside of you
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starts with us.
So identifying that you havethat quality inside of you and
it's part of your every.
It's almost like we justdisregard the you know, parking
spots or the, the, the thingsthat fall into place really
easily in subtle, subtle tones.
Those are the things that wedisregard in our society pro
programming television.
Even our governments candiscredit these qualities, and
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maybe it's because if we're allempowered, what would we do?
What would our society looklike in terms of being able to
control the population?
So the first step is justidentifying.
And I think another thing toois there are qualities around
certain religions that tell youthat you are a sinner, that you
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are not special, and for manygenerations and decades, we've
had something outside of ustelling us about our connection.
We needed a Pope, we needed aguru, we needed something to
help us tap into that source.
And so, even just starting toidentify that you are special,
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you are insignificant andextremely significant at the
same time.
And so identifying.
You know your life matters.
What you do matters.
The things that you say or thatyou don't say, the actions that
you take or that you don't taketruly matter in terms of being
able to manifest larger things,greater outcomes, and some of
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those things take time.
They do.
They take time because you needto change in order for those
things to occur.
So I believe that the firstpart really truly is is just
identifying that I am a create,you are a creator, you are truly
a creator, and owning that andthat has to do with you create
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your day.
You get to decide if you'regoing to get up, if you're going
to go to the gym, if you'regoing to meditate, if you're
going to eat healthy.
Those are personal decisionsand those things trickle out
into the ethers, into everyinterconnection that we have
with everyone and every singlething around us, so that
evolution of ourselves createsevolution around us in terms of
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our daily experiences and thento the collective as well.
Lunden Souza (11:45):
Yeah, yeah.
So what I hear you saying islike that first step is getting
real with what the essence of usbeing here is, like you said,
in co-creation, and diving intothat and what that might look
like.
I think somebody can hear thatand maybe it's a split second
(12:05):
moment of listening to a podcastlike this and hearing that and
remembering that, but I'm surethere's some, yeah, like a
journey to that of being reallytapped into what you just said
of like that we are co-creatingthat.
What we do, our day-to-dayactions matter.
So the first step is like thatawareness and understanding and
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tapping into the co-creation andthen being able to make the
daily choices.
Are you saying like, make thosedaily choices to then be the
version of you that then canattract the things that you want
?
Is that what you're sayingabout the decision to wake up
and eat healthy and go to thegym and take care of your
physical body?
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Are those steps tomanifestation?
Is that what you were saying?
Yogi Raven (12:52):
Yes, yes, and I think taking a, an audit of
yourself and your life and howmuch you are looking for for
energetic validation andconfirmation outside of you, so
that we we, you know we talkabout battery drainers or energy
vampires, we can call thempeople that you have.
(13:14):
You just feel tired spendingtime with them, people that you
know are are negative sometimes,you know, identifying that that
quality inside of you is reallyhuge.
That that level ofself-awareness that do I need
ever.
Do I need to be on my phonecalling.
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Is it okay for me to be bymyself?
Like, how comfortable are youin your own skin?
Because when you create moreself-awareness inside of you,
the whole as above so as without, as within, so as without, as
above so as below concept reallyis true.
And so there is this.
There's math to it, there's amathematical equation around it,
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it's understanding how much andthis is a new word that's in my
book that I call e-mentions.
Okay, this is the first timeI've talked about it on a
podcast Like dimensions, butwithout the D.
Lunden Souza (14:11):
Like dimensions.
Yogi Raven (14:12):
Yes, so emotional and mental dimensions.
You and I just met for thefirst time, you know, like a
year ago, and so we were feelingeach other's energy and that's
what we do with everybody youknow like.
Is this safe for me to likehave a conversation with you, so
to say, and understanding thateverything is of co-creation?
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So how I show up mentally andemotionally to everything and
everyone around me is clutch andunderstanding if I'm stepping
out of a place of beingtriggered from my past
experiences, or what I callstepping into a place of
neutrality.
And that does not meancomplacency, it means a state of
observation that you can thenchoose to change your behavior
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in some way, shape or form thatwill create a different outcome
in the future for you.
Lunden Souza (15:04):
Thanks for sharing that with us.
I like that word.
Where'd you get that from?
Did you just download it?
I made it up.
Yogi Raven (15:12):
Yeah, no, it's a thing you won't be able to unsee
it now.
It up yeah, no, it's a thingyou won't be able to unsee it
now.
You'll just be like walking into go get your massage and like
what's this dimension that Ihave?
Or seeing your friends.
A good example is when you'rehanging out with someone or
you're in a relationship.
You guys go out to dinner andyou spark a conversation that
starts to get uncomfortable andyou can feel that person shut
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down and it feels like there'sthis huge wall up and they are
now on the other side of theroom and you can't get to them,
you can't have a conversation,you can't be in.
That state of connection withthem is a really good way of
identifying or feeling like weuse it all the time.
I feel close to you, I feeldistant from you, I need space.
(15:55):
I need to look at this from adifferent angle.
Those are all dimensions thatwe talk about like math.
It's the same way in ourreality as well.
Lunden Souza (16:06):
Yes, I'm excited to ponder that word a little bit
more and look for instances ofthat.
As you were talking, I wasthinking of three instances that
have happened in my life.
All I would consider some formof manifestation, but they were
all very different and so I wantto share them and then you can
(16:27):
let you know.
Just we can kind of go fromthere.
But the first one is so I livedin Austria for a long time.
The position that I had for acompany called Runtastic was
very front-facing.
I was on stage in front ofthousands of people all the time
and I guess maybe four stories.
So because of that stageexperience I remember as a kid
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singing karaoke, performing inmy room, getting that feeling of
being on stage in front ofthousands and just that vibe
right.
Then fast forward, I lived inAustria.
That happened right.
I was on stage in front ofthousands of people, very much
in the public eye.
Then, after a great run there,I decided to step away from that
(17:12):
and just move into more of whoI was, becoming right and when
you go from being on stage on TVon the things all the time and
then not, I remember having thisvision that I wanted to be able
to be in a white room withwhite walls and nobody, no
things, nothing, and be okay andlove Lunden anyway.
So I had that vision and thatthought.
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And then, um, a bunch offriends of mine, we went to, um,
we do a lot of escape rooms.
When I lived in Austria I hadfriends that we did escape rooms
with, right.
So we're in Budapest oneweekend and we do like seven
escape rooms right, we're justlike fire, we're just like
cognitively challenged, we'redoing the escape rooms Right.
Then the last one.
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This guy was like oh, if youguys love escape rooms, you guys
should go to the white room.
So we go to this escape roomand lo and behold, it's a white
room with white walls and youhave to figure out how to do the
room right.
Little one there.
Another one my first week-longmeditation retreat with Dr Joe
in Cancun.
I booked all the things but Ijust didn't book the shuttle.
(18:16):
I didn't remember to book theshuttle from the airport to go
to the hotel.
But I was like, oh well, it'sgoing to work out, I'm just
going to arrive and there'sgoing to be a solution.
I just had that feeling thatthat was going to happen.
So I get there.
I haven't booked the thing.
I'm like I'm just going tofigure it out, maybe I'll get
Wi-Fi and call and figure outhow to get on the next shuttle.
(18:38):
Right when I walk out to theshuttle areas, this guy's
holding a sign that says Dr Joeshuttle and I was like, oh, I
didn't make a reservation, butthis is where I need to go.
He's like it's okay, we haveroom for you, come on Right,
just like super easy.
The last one is when I moved toUtah.
So I left Austria, moved backto California where my family
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was then was ready for this nextchapter of my life, whatever it
would look like.
And this time I took pen topaper.
I wrote down what I wanted,where I was going to live, what
it was going to smell like, whatI was going to do, even putting
my feet in streams with rocks,that the water was just passing
right at ankle height.
So that time it was very muchlike I wrote down pen to paper
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and then, lo and behold, here Iam with all of these.
I go through that list a lotand I'm like check, check, check
, check.
So I share all of those storiesbecause I just, yeah, they're
moments of what we're talkingabout now in my life, but
sometimes it was like a feeling,sometimes it was a list,
sometimes it was just a knowingthat things were going to be
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taken care of.
Are those all forms ofmanifestation formula, or what's
the best way to go aboutcreating more experiences that
we want?
Yogi Raven (19:55):
Yeah, well, I mean, you're you're privy to this
because you're you're definitelyconnected with, with Joe, and
Joe talks a lot about this.
Um, but what you did bring up,there were four things that you.
You brought up four differentscenarios, but they had all four
of them had similarcircumstances, and what it was
was your vision.
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Similar circumstances and whatit was was your vision.
You envisioned somethinghappening before it did, and
that's those are the pieces,right, it's we talk about, like
we have the five senses, butthese are, they're extended.
We have these intuitive sensesabout us as well, and so that's
where, when we get into a placeof self-awareness or meditation,
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we then can clear our channelsso that we can receive those
visions for us and actuallyreach towards them.
The thing that you'reexperiencing wants you to
experience it.
It's of a co-creation in itself.
There's something of yourfuture or something some other
person that you know that you'reworking with that is there's.
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I'll say this there's norelationship or experience that
anybody has that is one sidedOkay.
So, even if you're in anunhealthy relationship which I'm
sort of citing from here butboth parties are getting
something out of it, there's afeeding, sort of a container
between the two of them.
(21:20):
So, absolutely identifying yes,you are a co-creating machine
and your mind isn't just thereto do math, so you can do
accounting, so you can just getby with your bills.
You know it's there so that youcan feel compelled, feel
passionate about something.
What drives you, what excitesyou.
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Those things are what we're,that's our birthright.
We're here to experience joy,and that joy, I'm sure, comes
from places of understanding,suffering, places of
experiencing pain.
And so I think another thing forpeople to identify and
understand is part ofmanifesting is painful sometimes
, and you didn't really shareany pieces of overcoming
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obstacles to get to that point,and I'm sure you did along the
way from getting to where you'reat, to going to Austria and
then developing yourself evenfurther.
But we have this sort ofblueprint.
Every single person has a pathand it's up to us.
It's like a choose your ownadventure, and I believe that we
sort of hit these markers, likelife is sort of like okay,
(22:27):
we're on this trajectory, wehave these cycles, we have these
patterns.
This is something that everysingle person goes through.
But how much are youidentifying the patterns and are
doing the same thing, or areyou just staying, you're
refusing to grow, you'rerefusing to feel, you're
refusing to change in some way,shape or form.
So life is going to presentsomething to you that will shock
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you into it.
So sometimes that's breaking.
I broke my femur, I fractured myfemur a couple of years ago and
that brought me to my knees.
It was the most.
That was worse than childbirth,I'll tell you, and I had three
of them.
But you know that, like when wehave upsets, when we have
difficulties on top of that,those alter you and they shift
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you, sometimes because you'renot willing to, and they shift
you sometimes because you're notwilling to Right.
And so so manifestation is, isis really like learning how to
be your own authentic self ineverything, throughout all of
your experiences in life.
And that can be sometimes hard,because we have this old story
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from our upbringing.
It's this subconsciouspatterning that gets formed like
a computer, programmed in yourbrain, like a system, and then
we perceive our reality as fightor flight.
Something is threatening,something is challenging to us,
but really, ultimately, we haveto ask ourselves how much are we
feeling good about ourselves?
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Or how much are we feelingguilty, shameful, resentful,
fearful, because these are lowervibrations that will inhibit
you from actually taking actiontowards the thing that you want
to experience.
It will help.
It will inhibit you fromcreating connection and creating
intimacy and relationships thatyou really truly want to have.
Lunden Souza (24:16):
Yeah, a lot of the well and this kind of segues
into what I was.
Yeah, want to ask you next, andwhat I was thinking about is
like the level of detachmentnecessary in order to manifest.
Because you know, I can thinkof and I know we'll talk about
different areas of our life andmanifesting.
But there's some areas I canthink of in my life where I'm
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very detached to the outcome andthat co-creation process seems
easy and effortless.
And I also know that from whatI know about manifestation and
also just being human and makingall the mistakes of things that
I talk about too, is like youknow that needy energy, you know
the wanting to manifest out offear of losing it or not having
it or whatever.
(25:05):
I know that's not the way to go.
So what level of detachment dowe need?
Kind of like the butterflymoment, where you had your hand
out hoping for the butterfly andthen it didn't come.
But then you kind of like yousaid butterfly and then it
didn't come, but then you kindof like you said I just like let
it go, and then, lo and behold,it was butterfly land.
When later on you know, so likewhere, what is the level of
(25:25):
detachment necessary formanifestation, and then like how
do we detach from those areaswe want to manifest in when we
might feel a little bit of likethe needy energy or like stage
five clinger energy to thatparticular scenario we want to
create?
Yogi Raven (25:41):
you know, yeah, I think that this goes back into
the question of how self-awareare you?
Because there's really only twoways to transform, and that's
mentally, emotionally.
My partner argues that it'sphysically as well, but the mind
and the body are connected.
I believe that we are like abattery, and so the more that we
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understand how we arepositively, negatively and
neutrally charged with our mindand our emotions, then we can
become like that.
Knowledge truly is power.
It really is power, it iselectricity, it is capacity, it
is magnetism.
It causes people to want toknow you or be repelled and not
(26:23):
be near you.
A, either because you've got anegative energy, or B, because
they're intimidated by how muchyou are standing in your own
worth, in your own value, and sothe level of detachment is huge
and that's not sociopathic.
That's the place of neutral.
(26:44):
That's the place of being okaywith feeling bad, being okay
with feeling really good, beingneutral to difficult situations
so that you can absorb thenutrients and the lessons,
because really that's all thatwe have.
We only have the ability tolearn and to do something
(27:06):
different.
So it really is like knowing.
I get sparked when I do this.
Why is it that?
Because I feel abandoned andrejected, I'm afraid.
Why?
Because this thing happened tome when I was four years old and
my dad left and I never saw him.
So then we punish the people infront of us for the fears that
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we have concerning that they maydo the same thing to us.
We will continue to repeat thatpattern.
So we have to be in that stateof neutrality observation, the
observer, the witnesser, thatthing, that part of you that's
inside of you, that is timelessand it's ageless and it's
unconditional.
It watches you go from age fourto 40 and it does not judge it,
(27:51):
just it guides.
It guides you if you allow it.
Lunden Souza (28:05):
Yeah, yeah, that guidance for sure.
Oh, so much good stuff.
How do you, um, how do youteach your kids to manifest,
like, do you?
You have three?
I know you have three kids andyou know we are all kind of we.
We are born with this essenceand then, for one reason or
another, the way that we'reraised, school, how you know, I
feel like we forget how muchpower and creative energy and
(28:27):
manifestation energy that wehave.
And how do you preserve that inyour kids and teach them and
parents like a manifestationmindset, let's say?
Yogi Raven (28:39):
Well, it's a cute little thing.
We actually I had a friend herevisiting a couple of days ago
and my, my girls were searching,because their friend lost their
tooth and so she had thislittle tooth necklace.
They had misplaced it.
And so you hear them, we haveto ask the angels to help us
(29:00):
find the necklace.
Ask the angels.
So they're walking around theroom because angel is just a
word, but I mean really, wordsare just symbols, and symbols
are just, it's just thevibration, it's just the
frequency, even you think oflike homeopathy and how they
work with the medicines and thesugar tablets.
And so I tell them you know,ask the angels.
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We have guides, we have otherthings outside of us.
You know that that can help us.
And there was a situation wewere at the grocery store.
I was just with my daughter andshe was like mom, can I have
this?
It was a taffy apple.
And I was like no, and we justkept walking and this woman
comes up.
She's like excuse me, I am agrandmother and I overheard your
(29:43):
daughter saying she wanted ataffy apple and I just wanted to
buy it for her.
So she like gave me the money.
Look at you.
(30:03):
So I try to insert it where Ican you know, but also they're.
They're in a very interestingcircumstance, based off of what
they just experienced, and sothey're really questioning why,
why bad things happen, whythings go wrong, and so it's
something I'm sort of massagingthrough as the days progress and
as they get older, so they cancognitively truly understand
(30:25):
what I'm saying.
Lunden Souza (30:27):
Yeah, and I want to talk too about the journey of
your family and the loss youguys have experienced and how
you continue to manifest andcreate through a lot of pain and
hurt, and those probably aren'teven words that capture the
feeling that your family hasexperienced this year and before
(30:50):
that.
I want to ask about God andmanifestation.
You mentioned your kids askingthe angels.
Do you feel like God?
A belief in a higher power hasto also exist with manifestation
.
Can you manifest without thisbelief in God?
And also, coming from areligious upbringing as well,
(31:12):
we're often taught that youcan't manifest and believe in
God.
Right, but do they go hand inhand or how do you see that?
Yogi Raven (31:23):
I believe that words , again, are just symbols, and
when I say the word God, everysingle person that's listening
to this podcast is going to havea different image of it.
Just as I was saying, there'sonly all we have is the ability
to learn, and that's learningthrough what we've been told or
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what we've read or our personalexperiences, but, at the end of
the day, we really don't knowwhere these texts came from, who
wrote them, which one is right,which one is wrong, and so
that's where I highly encouragepeople to go back into the
vibrational, energetic.
One of the things that I say isthink like light, feel like
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energy and move like a magnet,because that's all that we are.
We're made up of millions,billions atoms that create our
physical form, and these atomsare made of protons, neutrons
and electrons, which arepositive, negative and neutral.
We have positive, negative andneutral thoughts.
We have positive, negative andneutral emotions, and so,
(32:27):
underneath whatever it is thatyou are believing in, you need
to ask yourself if you're inalignment with it and if it
feels good to you.
And if it's, you need to askyourself if you're in alignment
with it and if it feels good toyou and if it's taking you in a
good direction.
That's what I say.
I believe that we don't reallytruly know.
I have high respect for sacredtexts in the Bible.
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I've had manifesting veryinteresting experiences with it
as well, and so that's why it'sjust giving me this inclination
that it's far beyond the wholeidea of what we know of God or
Jesus or Yeshua or the Buddha,all of those things.
So that's where we have to goback into our own level of
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self-reliance.
Does this feel okay to me?
Does this feel in alignment?
And I went through when I wasgrowing up.
I went through my own personalexperiences of feeling like I
was connecting to the devil.
There was some devil worshipinginvolved, like all of the fear,
sort of things that happened.
But I will also tell you thatthe sessions that I do for
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people have done nothing buthelp them.
You, that the sessions that Ido for people have done nothing
but help them.
That the information that Ichannel through and that I
assist people with only helpsthem evolve and grow.
And typically, when we thinkabout the devil and things that
are bad, it's like bringing youdown a bad path so you can
manifest, because you are aphysical human being in three
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dimension.
That's what you're here for.
That's what you're doing everysingle day.
It's beyond, if you ask me,it's beyond religion and
spirituality.
It's our birthright.
Lunden Souza (34:10):
Got it yeah.
So yes and no, I guess, is theanswer to that question.
Like, if it feels in alignmentfor you to relate those things
to create, then that's the paththat you're on.
Yogi Raven (34:27):
Yeah, I mean, there's just so much outside of
our reality that we're justtapping into and there's so many
people that have had reallyprofound experiences where
they've flipped out of cars.
And I had a friend where thishappened.
She flipped out of her, her carflipped and she was on the side
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of this country road and thisman walks up to her that is
really strong and blonde andbright blue eyes and he just
seemed like he was glowing andhe like helped her get out of
the car and made sure that shewas okay and then all of a
sudden she sort of like lookedaround and he had just
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disappeared and then all theseother people came to help her.
So you know, these near deathexperiences, there's just remote
viewing.
There's near-death experiences.
There's just remote viewing.
There's something about energythat we're just scraping the
surface on on the collective andunderstanding what we truly are
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and what our thoughts and ourminds can really take us, and so
I think that's something toexplore and to navigate and
investigate.
That's what you're here for.
Who are you?
And this is another thing thatmost people don't know about,
and this is another thing I'mtalking about on the podcast.
We call ourselves human beingsbut we don't actually realize
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that that word, the originationof that word, comes from
hominucleus, which means tiny,human, artificially produced.
It's based off of an alchemical, philosophical question of
which came first the chicken orthe egg?
That is what we label ourselvesas.
That's the quandary.
So, which is the point ofmanifestation in itself and
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understanding, we grow, butwe're the same person.
We but we're, but we're yet thesame as we were when we were a
baby, our characteristics, ourqualities, so there's just this.
It's this over or a borisinfinity, constantly going
(36:37):
within our own selves to exploreand transform what we know to
be true.
So if we're constantly feelinglike we're disempowered or we're
in a place of victim mode,which is an archetype every
single human on the planet ishaving to overcome, you're going
to stay in a lower vibrationalstate and things will not
necessarily All the things thatyou're wishing for you won't
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receive because you're notputting action into it.
There's this place of you gotto do work too.
You have to put the effort inand say I'm willing to show up
to God, the universe, theenergies, whatever it is, in
order for me to experience thisthing, because I know it to be
true.
It excites me inside and, Ithink, getting into a place of
(37:23):
joy.
Most people have becomelistless.
They're just like oh, it's justa groundhog day, this is just
the way that it is.
Right.
And so it's like how could youimagine anything else?
Because this is you believe sohardly in this outcome You're
not thinking about that Joetalks about.
We need to step into and fullybelieve what that future version
(37:45):
of you feels like, connect init so much that it just pulls
you and propels you to the rightpeople, places and things,
circumstances and outcomes thatwill allow that thing to align
and be realized in physical formalign and be realized in
physical form.
Lunden Souza (38:04):
Yes, and it makes me think a lot about my
transition from being more of afitness personality, the
workouts and I just remember andI talk about this on my podcast
a lot and in differentinterviews like that work in
process is so, so important ofexactly what you said, of like
(38:24):
that future version.
How does she feel now and howcan I feel that now?
And the power in that we think,if we want change, we just got
to work harder and do more andexercise more, do more things.
But that inner introspection oflike sitting with how you want
to feel, getting beyond thosestuck in tough emotions, is,
(38:44):
yeah, a game changer.
A game changer.
Yogi Raven (38:48):
Um, and I'd like to ask you, Lunden, you know what.
Do you think that all of yourfitness experiences that you had
prior to taught you and ishelping, aid and assist you in
what you're doing now?
Lunden Souza (39:03):
For sure, the power of doing hard things and
also, just, I'm really gratefulfor that chapter because I
learned a lot of ways to reallymake sure I'm taking care of my
physical body.
This is my vessel that I get todo my thing with, and so, even
if I'm not teaching fitness,embodying that fit avatar, being
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strong, doing the hard thingwith my physical body, coming
into my body, feeling strong andenergized my word of this year,
two words I had integrity andendurance, but endurance when it
came to physical but alsoemotional stuff, and I feel like
, yeah, working out and the wayyou move your body transcends
into a lot of areas of your life.
(39:45):
So I've learned, yeah, how todo hard things and to appreciate
this body that I have.
Yogi Raven (39:53):
And so what was it that compelled you to change
careers?
Lunden Souza (40:07):
compelled you to change careers.
Yeah, I just knew there was aculmination of.
I just remember getting a lotof questions about, like, what
exercise can I do to fix this?
How many calories does thisworkout burn?
And I just was like over it, Idon't want to answer those
questions anymore.
And then I remember, yeah, justdecide, it was the end of 2020,
I believe when I fully just waslike not going to teach on that
(40:28):
anymore, that's not going to bemy main focus.
But I just wasn't.
Yeah, I wanted to haveconversations like this and go
beyond if you had a wiggly armor a muffin top or not.
I just that wasn't where Iwanted to be anymore.
Yogi Raven (40:45):
Which is a really great example of the evolution
right.
It's like the stacking offoundation.
You gained confidence in whatyou were doing and you're like
you know what?
I'm going to do a podcast now.
I've had so many conversations,I've been on stages with
thousands of people and I'mgoing to do a podcast now.
I've had so many conversations,I've been on stages with
thousands of people and I'mready to go deeper and I'm ready
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to feed my soul in another way.
And I think that that's anotherthing that most people don't
look at everything that thehindsight that happened to them
in their past and how it ledthem up to this point.
Like you're saying, thehindsight that happened to them
in their past and how it ledthem up to this point.
Like you're saying, I just wasover it, I was just done.
I was done learning and sharingand helping in that way and I
(41:28):
was ready to do somethingdifferent.
And that calling that insightis something that most people
don't recognize and acknowledge.
Something's telling you youwant to go somewhere else, you
want to learn something new, youwant to learn something new,
you want to share in some newway and to trust that.
Oftentimes, we don't trust that.
Lunden Souza (41:46):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I'm grateful that youasked me those questions because
helped me reflect a little bit.
The last thing I want to talkabout or tap into is tap into is
manifesting through when youlose someone that you love and
when life does its life thingand it maybe isn't joyful in the
(42:08):
moment.
I would love for you to sharewhat you want to share when it
comes to the loss youexperienced this year and how
you're continuing to believe increation and, like you said,
with your kids and their beliefin manifestation based on this
loss.
What's that been like?
Yogi Raven (42:29):
So I want to take this a little further back
because I want to preface, andmaybe this is something that is
a take home for everybody.
But I was with my husband for15 years and when I met him, a
voice in my head said you'regoing to marry that man, and
then six months later he askedme out and we were together ever
(42:50):
since that point, and so I knewthat it was a special
relationship from the get-go.
But as we progressed throughour relationship, we did some
learning and some growing andand things started getting
difficult between the two of usand so we were actually in in
(43:11):
the process of, unfortunately,getting a divorce and we had.
What's really interesting aboutthis is that trying to act for
the highest good and for thegreatest good of all.
If you could just use thatsentence, write it on a sticky
note Say it again.
(43:32):
Act for the highest good and thegreatest good of all.
Lunden Souza (43:35):
Act for the highest good and the greatest
good of all, yes, good and thegreatest good of all.
Yogi Raven (43:41):
Yes, and so relationships and separation can
be difficult.
It can be really hard forpeople emotionally to feel and
to move through, and so that wassomething that I really held at
the high point of what I wasnavigating with my relationship
with Matt, and we were stillco-parenting, we were living
together, but things weregetting very strained and he was
(44:02):
really pushing me away.
He didn't want to pay for me,which I found out was illegal.
When you're married, youactually have your income is
combined.
But I was in this position oftrying to figure out.
I was scattered, trying tofigure out how I was going to
start making income, how I wasgoing to pay for my children,
(44:23):
all three of them.
He didn't want us to still livetogether, he didn't want to
nest, which is you rotate aroundthe children, and so I was
scrambling, trying to get mybook out, trying to start
working with new clients,starting to generate, because I
was taking care of the kids andhe was travel nursing for a
(44:43):
couple of years, just to givethis backdrop of it.
And so I would say in shambles,and I was experiencing a lot of
like PTSD and stress, albeit Iwas creating and trying to think
as positive as I possibly couldand act with respect and love
(45:03):
to Matt.
And so I will say that I had afew dreams leading up to the
experience that wereforeshadowings, and I did not
know the brevity of them, so Ihad one on March 26th and then
one on June 9th and he passedaway on June 22nd.
(45:26):
And so we live up in the RoaringFork Valley and so there's a
lot of fly fishing and rafting,stand-up paddle boarding, we
float to the exit of our house,essentially, and the river was
really high it was the highestit had been, with the snow
(45:47):
running off, so you can imaginethe river was running about like
10 miles an hour in speed, andthe week prior he had asked me
if he could go on a quick floatwith some of his friends that
had invited him and that hewould take the kids if I was
busy, and I sternly expressed no, I will watch the children.
(46:09):
We had just been talking aboutpeople drowning there had been
numerous drownings already inthe season and that I was very
concerned about the speed of theriver, the season, and that I
was very concerned about thespeed of the river.
Well, I went out of town thenext day or the next week to
South Carolina with my partner,because we were both seeing
(46:30):
other people at that time andthe way that I met Rob actually
was very profound in itself.
That's a side story in theimpacts that he's made.
So I was in South Carolina atthe time and I had gotten really
exhausted, very out of it andasked to go take a nap.
And when I went to, we went totake a nap and about 20 minutes
(46:54):
later I got the phone call thathe had taken the kids on the
river with his brother and dog.
And my children are 10.
My daughter was seven at thetime and my youngest is five.
And within 10 minutes of thetrip they hit a rapid and it's
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what I've been told, one of thegnarliest rapids in all of
Colorado, and they were in a flyfishing drift boat.
So there's no buoyancy, there'sno like a raft has a ton of air
in it and it floats on thewater.
This was just all of the weightof everybody and it was about a
10 foot drop.
So the water just smashed intothe boat and pushed everybody
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out and Matt was the only onenot wearing a life preserver and
so he drowned in my daughter'sarms.
They had to let him go.
It was very, very traumatic.
My brother-in-law grabbed my,my brother-in-law grabbed my.
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So when the boat flipped, matthad all three of the kids and
Nick had Oogie, his dog, whoactually just passed away like
two weeks ago, and he saw Mattstruggling.
So he swam over and grabbedJasper, my son.
And this is what's veryinteresting too about the
circumstance was because theyhad gotten to the ramp and Matt
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realized he didn't have a lifePFD, a life preserver for his
brother, and so he asked him doyou want one, do you care?
And he's like I probably shouldget one.
So they went back to the houseand they picked mine up and he,
he gave him mine.
And if they hadn't done that,they would have been in front of
this raft company and theywould have been missed.
(48:51):
So what happened was this raftcompany was coming out of uh
from a uh commercial trip, andthey saw the boat flipped over
and passing by, and then theysaw Matt with my two girls and
Nick and Jasper, and so theyknew immediately to get back
into the river and help recovereverybody.
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And so they went and Nick andJasper finally made it to shore.
Nick and Jasper finally made itto shore so they immediately
went over, grabbed them and theywent and they grabbed my
daughter, pepper, and thenPrairie.
My youngest was the last one tobe recovered.
It was 40-degree temps.
They could have experiencedhypothermia, they could have
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died in the water if that raftcompany was not there to
preserve them.
I mean, my daughters literallyhad to let Matt go because he
had drowned.
So it's insanely traumatic and Ifind myself, when I go out to
places with my partner, like wewent to a birthday party and I
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was like meeting all of thesepeople and I was doing my best
to navigate, not talking aboutit because a I don't want it to
be the label of who I am or mychildren, because this entire
Valley knows.
It was on the newspaper Go fundme.
My friend set up a go fund meand a large amount of money was
raised for my family, hence someof the blessings that occurred.
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Hence some of the blessingsthat occurred.
There were situations like, twoyears prior to Matt passing
away, we refinanced and myfriend helped us refinance and
she highly stressed to getbecause he bought the house
without me.
My credit wasn't great at thetime and so she stressed to put
me on the mortgage if anythinghappened.
And so we were literally on theverge of having mediation the
(50:43):
day before I flew out and Icanceled it, and if we had
agreed to a divorce, if we hadcome to some settlement, I would
not have this house.
I would not be in a position tobe able to take care of my
children.
The funds that were gifted tous and donated to us have
created the space for me togrieve and take care of my
(51:07):
children, who are I mean, it'snot.
This is part of life, and thisis how I told my children when I
came home of life, and this ishow I told my children when I
came home that death and birthare part of our experiences
being human and in our life, andwe just don't know when that's
going to happen to us, and sopart of us experiencing life is
(51:33):
experiencing not having theirfather anymore, and we don't
know why it happened, but we canonly learn from the experience,
and he has shown up in manyways already.
Another really cool example theday after the celebration was on
(51:54):
a Sunday and I met up with anew friend to go climbing, and I
was really hesitant.
Actually, to be honest with you, I was like I need to start
working, I need to start makingmoney.
This was two months after hehad passed away.
It's three months, two and ahalf months, and I just was
battling in my head We've alldone that.
(52:15):
We're like should I go, shouldI not go?
Should I do it, should I not doit?
And something was like you needto go just release and have fun
and go climb, just have a goodtime.
So I met up with her and weclimbed a couple of routes and
we were going to the car to goto another location and climb
and this man starts walking up.
(52:36):
I just noticed him andsomething in my head was like
I'm supposed to talk to him.
He has something for me.
It was very split second, veryfast knowing, and he walked by
me and as he did, I looked athis shirt and he had a shirt.
I'm sure no one on this pot onthis will know of this
restaurant, but it's called Kenand Sue's will know of this
(53:02):
restaurant, but it's called Kenand Sue's.
And what's interesting aboutthat is I had told a story at
the celebration of life about myhusband had a nickname and it
was buck and he actually had a abuck tattoo jumping over his
butt.
Lunden Souza (53:13):
Crack, he was he was give a little insight on his
personality.
He was real, memorable.
Yogi Raven (53:21):
We're just going to say that we were both kind of
out there and we kind of met inthis like out there middle, so
to say.
So he was working in Durango atthis restaurant called Ken and
Sue's and there were a bunch ofguys named Matt there, and so
the manager was like you need topick a different name.
And he's like, how about BuckNaked?
(53:41):
He's like, get rid of the nakedand you can be Buck.
And so he has, like a huge partof his friends know him as Buck
, and then everybody out hereknew him as Matt.
And so I shared that funnystory.
And so I'm talking to this guyand I'm like, oh my gosh, you
have a Ken and Sue shirt.
I've never seen the shirt, I'venever seen anybody wear it, and
(54:03):
it's the day after thecelebration.
And what was so interestingabout that was he he didn't live
in Durango anymore, he wasn'tworking at Ken and Sue's and he
only visited this climbinglocation maybe once a year.
And I'm like, well, what arethe odds?
Right, what are the statisticalodds?
That of all days you decide tocome out and climb here and of
(54:24):
all days you decide to pick upthat shirt and wear it.
Like statistically speaking.
So that was a really profoundlike okay, I see you, I see you,
you know, and.
And that was like maybe Iwouldn't have seen that if I
didn't go and he would havetried to connect with me in
(54:48):
another way.
I mean, he's come throughdreams, stuff like that.
And these are the things thatpeople we got really stuck on
when people pass away and I knowthat I'm talking very calmly
about this A because I'veexperienced a lot of death in my
life.
I do shamanic sessions forpeople.
I channel deceased loved ones.
I have a very differentunderstanding and relationship
(55:12):
with death and dying than mostpeople.
And B because I have I'm onthis podcast with you and I'm
talking matter of factly, butthat does not negate the fact
that I have moments of sadnessand crying and devastation and
(55:32):
paralysis, Like the first week.
I couldn't move, I couldn't doanything, I couldn't think it
was, it was a lot, you know.
So, um, that's what happenedand now it'll be six months, on
the 22nd, it might.
You know, we talk about it andthat's that's.
My big thing right now isteaching my children to not make
(55:55):
this their story but part ofwho they are and and help it.
Help them grow from what theyhad from their father and the
lack of him, but not make thispart of their victimizing
devastation.
I can't live.
Life sucks.
It's not worth living.
Everything goes bad, sort ofthing, which can happen to a lot
(56:19):
of us if we don't allowourselves to see the blessings
that have occurred as a result,and it's really, really sad to
say that, but it isunfortunately true.
Lunden Souza (56:34):
It takes time.
I'm sure there's days whereyou're, like you said, paralyzed
and devastated and big emotions, and then some days where you
have more clarity to see, wow,this might I have my best friend
, kara.
She's in our NABA community aswell and she lost her husband
almost two years ago and herability to see.
(56:54):
She'll sometimes like she'llsay, like God had to take Ryan,
like he just had to, and whenshe looks at all the things that
she learned about what washappening in their relationship
before he passed away and theexperiences now, it always just
full body, like goosebumps, andjust like you did too, where
you're like and I, yeah, I don'tknow what it's like to lose a
(57:19):
partner and I can't imagine,yeah, that grief and I noticed
that similarity in both of youwhere she will say things like
yeah, but because this happened,then this and then this and
then this, and if he wouldn'thave died, then this.
And even every week, her and Iwell, her and I talk like every
day, but there's like alwayssomething, some way, that she's
(57:41):
choosing, not the victim storyand choosing, you know, every
week, her and I well, her and Italk like every day, but there's
like always something, some waythat she's choosing not the
victim story and choosing um youknow exactly what she said like
this had to happen.
It couldn't have not happened,and I'm really beginning to see
that and I feel like that's whatyou shared as well.
Um, I'm so grateful for you,raven, and for you coming on the
podcast and sharing all of your, everything, all of it.
(58:03):
I appreciate you so much and I,yeah, when I was talking to
Veronica this morning, I waslike, oh yeah, I've talked to
Raven a little bit when I firstmet her and you know, she
reached out saying she was readyto talk and be on the podcast,
and I was just, yeah, superexcited to get to know you more
through this conversation too,which is my favorite part is not
(58:24):
talking about all the thingsbefore waiting until we press
record and being able to have avery real and authentic
conversation.
So I appreciate you so much.
I know there's many peoplelistening that are deeply, yeah,
transformed because of yousharing your story today.
Where can people connect withyou further?
(58:44):
Social media website, if theywant to connect with you.
What's the best way for that?
We'll include all the links inthe show notes.
Yogi Raven (58:53):
Yeah, I do want to say really quick I heard a
statistic that about 70% to 80%of the population has
experienced trauma and I thinkthat that's the biggest thing
that people really get stuck onin terms of manifesting, because
we don't find the joy anymore.
So I just want to express thatto the viewers, like you're not
alone in what I would say you'regoing through, and that you
(59:18):
have what it takes inside of youto get through and to lean into
your support systems and digdeep.
So you can find me at it'sitsjustraven.
com.
My website is going live in thenext few days.
I've just revamped it.
It used to be yogi ravencomthat was sort of my identity,
but now it's.
It's just Raven.
No, no, apostrophe, it'sitsjustraven.
(59:39):
com.
It's just Raven.
No, no, apostrophe, it'sitsjustraven.
com.
And um, I'd love to speak toanyone, support anybody that's
looking to uplevel their lives,looking how to learning how to
manifest.
Lunden Souza (59:53):
I work with companies as well, and I'm just
excited to share this message.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate you.
It's itsjustraven.
com.
I'll link everything in theshow notes.
Thank you guys for listeningand, raven, thank you for being
here.
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