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SPEAKER_00 (00:08):
Welcome back to
Senior Care Academy Podcast by
Helperly.
Today's guest is Living Proofthat strength and vitality don't
come with an age limit.
She was born and raised inTaiwan, taught elementary school
in California for over 20 years,and now, well into her 70s,
she's outlifting people half herage.
She probably outlifted me.
Um, with four kids, sixgrandkids, and a six-day-a-week
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CrossFit habit.
She's showing us what it meansto be a strong senior.
So please welcome BeverlyMcCarter.
I'm so happy that you're here,everyone may be working.
SPEAKER_01 (00:38):
I'm happy to be here
too.
SPEAKER_00 (00:39):
Yeah.
Um, I was talking to a friend ofmine from high school, Eli You
know, and we were just talkingabout what I do, and he's like,
You have to meet Beverly.
She is like the epitome ofgetting aging with vitality and
strength.
She's you're 75.
She didn't start CrossFit untilshe was 63.
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She's like outdoes all thesepeople.
And I was like, oh my gosh, Ineed to I need to meet Beverly.
Um, but yeah, so you startedCrossFit at 63.
Most people feel like it's toolate, especially if they didn't
have good health habits beforethat.
So what made you walk into andCrossFit sometimes is
intimidating.
So what got you in the gym thefirst time?
SPEAKER_01 (01:19):
So I used to have
like a lot of aches everywhere.
You name it foot, wrist, knee,or finger, right?
Problems.
And I felt really weak and oftenhad no energy.
So I wanted to be strongstronger.
So my son at that time alreadystarted his CrossFit journey for
a few years.
(01:40):
So yeah, he introduced me aboutCrossFit.
And he he probably did aresearch on that the strength
would be good for see olderpeople.
Yeah.
So that's how I started my ownCrossFit journey 10 years ago.
SPEAKER_00 (01:55):
Yeah, yeah.
That's so cool.
And it's like you said,strength.
Um, there's a basically the themuscle density in your quads is
one of the biggest indicators ofwhether or not you'll get
dementia and pass early.
I bet.
Yeah.
And so that's really cool.
I'm sure that there was stillsome like intimidation.
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What was it like at 63 beinglike, I'm gonna get fit and take
care of my muscles and my body?
Um, was there any likeapprehension or or anything like
that?
Or you were just like, I'm gonnatry this.
SPEAKER_01 (02:29):
Um I think my mother
set a good example for me.
Well, so she well, she passedaway two, three years ago, but
then she up to n almost ahundred years ago.
And so she was doing all thelike um, you know, aerobics,
dancing, all that, up to 95.
Holy cow.
(02:50):
Yeah, and she was like a likeposter child in a way.
Yeah.
Because she so she set a goodexample for me.
And I said, Oh, one day I wouldlike it to be like her, just you
know, be active.
Yeah.
All the way to 95 or 100.
SPEAKER_00 (03:06):
Yeah, and you're
well on your way to staying that
strong.
You said um consistency is oneof the biggest keys.
So, what does consistency looklike for you?
Um, and maybe not even just likein your fitness, but living a
holistic life as you get older.
SPEAKER_01 (03:24):
So if we want to see
results from anything, we need
consistent investment to achievethem, such as uh regular and
yearly doctor checkup.
Yeah, right?
Memograms.
Yeah.
Well, interesting.
I did a mamogram every year forthe last 30 years.
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Interesting thing is two yearsago, they spotted cancer.
Oh, wow.
Tissue.
Yes.
Yeah.
So um, so anyway, they they didmore uh biopsy.
Well, luckily you found out it'sonly a stage stage zero.
SPEAKER_00 (04:00):
Wow, so you're gonna
do that.
SPEAKER_01 (04:01):
Which doesn't cut
really early because of
mammogram.
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00 (04:04):
Because you're
consistent.
SPEAKER_01 (04:05):
So every year,
because then they know there's a
difference there.
So after that, I just did thisuh surgery, and I even don't
need to do the uh radiation,just take the medication.
Wow.
So so I'm feeling good.
I'm just not, you know, knockingwith that, I won't get it again.
But I still will do my mammogramevery year.
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Yeah.
And another one, be consistent,uh is um like eat eat healthy,
yeah, drink water, enough water,plenty of sleep, uh, so going to
bed and get up at the same timeand then regularly exercise.
Those need consistency.
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Yeah.
And also I've I believe it takesdetermination and discipline to
do all of both.
SPEAKER_00 (04:56):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (04:56):
Right?
Uh to do it consistently.
I believe that it is soimportant to have the right
mindset to deal with all thesedaily challenges.
Like I have to tell myself I cando this.
Yeah.
I'm slow, which I am slow, but Ijust need to keep going and one
step at a time.
So, and I said I'm positive, andthen uh I'm confident that I can
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do all this.
Wow.
So this this kind of mapmindset.
SPEAKER_00 (05:23):
Yeah, you've got
like the affirmations and all of
that going as well.
Just like I can do this, andthat's inspiration.
That's so cool.
SPEAKER_01 (05:30):
Yeah, I have to
accept that I am slow.
SPEAKER_00 (05:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (05:34):
At the gym, you
compare to those young folks,
I'm always the last person tofinish, which is okay.
SPEAKER_00 (05:40):
But you finished you
showed up and you finished it.
SPEAKER_01 (05:43):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (05:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (05:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (05:44):
That's so cool.
Um, oftentimes there's adownward spiral that because you
mentioned you had pains all overyour wrists, your hands, your
knees, whatever.
Um, and usually it's theopposite where um people, as
they get older, it's like, oh mygosh, my knee's hurting, so I'm
gonna work out less.
And then because they're lessmobile, now all of a sudden
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they're hips hurting.
Um, but then they have this fearthat if they start going and
exercising, it's going to getworse.
Is there anything that surprisedyou most about your strength
when you went back to the gymwith all of those aches and
pains?
SPEAKER_01 (06:19):
Well, at the
beginning, you you know, uh I
just give a little bit try.
And um uh so what was thequestion again?
SPEAKER_00 (06:29):
Yeah, is there
anything is there anything that
like surprised you because yourbody had aches and pains?
You mentioned that you had dealtwith osteoporosis and carpal
tunnel and all of these things.
There's a lot of seniors thatwould go down the opposite path
of like, I have these things, soI can't do fitness, it's risky.
Um and so was did you getsurprised?
SPEAKER_01 (06:50):
So now I'm just
thinking, yeah, because I was
thinking about how to answer it.
SPEAKER_00 (06:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (06:55):
So um I remember
when I had those problems, I
went to PT.
They all say, oh, you need tostrengthen your your thigh, your
hamstring, all that, so that youknow, the knee problem, all
these problems will be kind ofwill be lessened.
Yeah, right.
But now I'm thinking backbecause uh I didn't have those
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strong muscles with my arms andlegs.
So I had a tendency to use myfingers, my wrist, or just you
know, yeah.
And then I then I get hurt, Iget hurt, or they they were
inflamed and they were just youknow painful.
But then after I started doingthe CrossFit, slowly I build up
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my arm muscles, my hamstring, mylittle thighs.
It's amazing.
They're strong, very strong.
So I don't have knee problemsbecause I I guess because the
strong muscles, yeah, right?
SPEAKER_00 (07:52):
Yeah, your knees
aren't needing to compensate for
weak muscles.
SPEAKER_01 (07:56):
Exactly.
So, anyway, so I hope thatanswered.
SPEAKER_00 (08:00):
That did, that's a
really good.
I think so.
Like, what do you thinkmotivated you to stay
determined?
Because I imagine getting intoit with hurt knees and all of
that, like you knew probably oryou hoped that over time your
muscle would be strengthened andyou wouldn't have this pain.
But it probably did hurt whenyou first started exercising,
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like your knees hurt worse for awhile.
So, what helped motivate you tostay like determined to make it
through that to get the otherside to the other side where you
are now, where all that's worthit.
SPEAKER_01 (08:33):
So, with 10 years,
for doing this 10 years, so
first few years, yes, I waslike, am I doing the right
thing?
Do I need to keep going?
Yeah, but after I tried a fewyears, all these problems
problems went away.
Then I realized now, 10 yearslater, I just strongly believe I
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cannot quit.
So if there's any, even youknow, when I exercise, I get it,
not injured, you know, get sorehere, sore there.
I I just don't I don't quit.
I say, oh, maybe I just take abreak.
Uh so I still keep going becauseof that experience, positive
experience in the past, yeah,they solved my problems, right?
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In a way.
So now I know I just need tokeep going.
SPEAKER_00 (09:19):
Yeah, that's so
cool.
And I think it's cool.
I think about my mom a lot.
So she's just turning 60 nextmonth.
Um, and all that I so I've gottwo little boys, uh almost
four-year-old and then aone-year-old.
And I'm like, I just want mom tobe here as long as she possibly
can to get as many decades withthese little boys as she can.
And I think your proof that likeconsistency and showing up and
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fighting through the sorenessand stuff, to have the longevity
is important.
Like you're you're living proofthat you probably are adding
years onto your life everysingle time that you go to the
gym.
So it's really cool.
Um, what would you say is thehardest part about um or which
habit is the hardest to staydisciplined with?
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You talked about sleep, youtalked about exercising and
nutrition and and all theseother things.
SPEAKER_01 (10:10):
Well, uh, so I'm I'm
Chinese, so eating vegetables
and fruit, that's very easy,right?
But uh, you know, now you needto have we all need to eat a
little bit more protein.
Yeah, that's a little bitchallenging for me.
But the most challenging one isdrinking enough water.
Interesting.
(10:30):
Is that interesting?
For some people, that's easy.
But for me, uh in the past, Iwaited and waited until I feel
like I'm thirsty.
Then say, oh, I need to drinkwater.
That's that's how I, you know,that's my the indication for me
to drink water.
SPEAKER_00 (10:45):
Yeah, I'm very
thirsty now.
SPEAKER_01 (10:47):
But by the by the
time you feel thirsty, it's too
kind of late because it'salready dehydrated.
SPEAKER_00 (10:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:53):
So from that, I have
learned in the past couple of
years that I I have a systemthat makes sure I drink enough
water throughout the day.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
And just I have to force myselfto do it, even I don't like it.
SPEAKER_00 (11:10):
Yeah, no, I love the
word the system that you used.
I think that um so many people,myself included, um, focus so
much and rely so much on likewillpower and determination.
And and that only goes so far.
But then when you have a systemthat makes doing the right thing
easier, like drinking water, orfor me, it's like eating
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healthy, um, it makes it so thatway you don't uh what's the
saying?
It's like you don't rise to thestandard of your motivation, you
fall to the level of yoursystems.
So if you don't have a goodsystem in place, you're not
gonna get it done.
So it's cool that you learnedand you made a system to say,
like, even though I don't enjoydrinking water, that's the easy
one for me.
I drink water all day long.
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But the eating healthy, I wishI'd like eating too.
SPEAKER_01 (11:56):
Like I have a plate,
I make sure I have protein,
yeah, vegetables, all that everymeal.
Even I don't I can eat someprotein, but not a whole lot.
It's too much meat or protein.
So anyway, that that's those twoare probably the hardest ones.
SPEAKER_00 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah.
And you so you you've givenCrossFit um a lot of credit and
your healthy habits for givingmore energy in your family life.
And I want to touch on that.
I talked about how my I talk tomy mom all the time of like, all
I want you to do is just gethealthy, stay healthy.
Um, how does it change the waythat you've shown up as a mom to
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your little kids and then as agrandmother?
SPEAKER_01 (12:37):
Um, so as you know,
CrossFit is like a type of
functional fitness, yeah, right?
That makes everyday taskseasier, yeah, you know, to do.
And so from CrossFit, my balanceand stability and mobility have
improved.
And so um I'm basically easy toget off the ground, trip
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something, or jump or whatever.
If I trip something, I can justjump up and try to miss that.
Yeah, it's not a problem.
And with get kids, I uh two,three years ago when my two
younger uh grandsons uh liveclose by, I babysat them like
three days a week, yeah.
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Three and one, right?
Boys.
Yeah.
And I had to, I basically had tokeep up with them, right?
Hold on.
Run after, yeah, I run afterthem.
SPEAKER_00 (13:33):
That's not an easy
thing to do.
SPEAKER_01 (13:34):
And then eight hours
a day.
Uh yeah, I need to have energy.
So because this, because I knowI I exercise really helps me to
spend quality time with thekids, the grandkids, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (13:49):
That's the age of my
two little boys, and it's a tour
to keep up with them every day.
So the fact that you can.
And then it's also so cool, likewe have a lot of um older adults
that we work with that aredecades younger than you, and a
fall would be detrimental.
It would, you know, debilitatethem for the rest of their life.
So it's cool that you've beenable to get to the point where
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you jump back up and you'restill grandma ing and you're
still doing everything.
Um, I think there's just so manylessons that people can pull
from this.
And I want to switch gears alittle bit talking about
community, because you are fromTaiwan, you've lived in
Colorado, Oregon, California,you're here in Utah now.
Um, very different places with alot of different cultures um and
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like norms from Oregon is verylike outdoorsy and everything,
and then Utah, you've got like avery strong religious group.
Um, and so what or I guess howhave you how's moving so much
shaped your view on communityand then and then how do you
find community um in your life?
SPEAKER_01 (14:57):
So interesting
because I when I came to BYU to
study and then stay here becauseI got married, uh well, I had
intention at that time to goback to Taiwan, but then now I
married, so I stay here.
So I'm basically the only personfor my family living in the
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States.
All my families are in reallyyeah, in Taiwan.
And my husband's you know, backin back east.
So we we don't have anyimmediate family, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (15:30):
Utah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:30):
Oh, everywhere.
Oh wow everywhere from Colorado,Oregon, all California, all the
places.
So we I had to rely on thecommunity.
Yeah, right?
It could be, you know, it couldbe the gym, it could be church,
uh, or the the school that Iwork at, all these teachers, you
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know, people that I met, that'sa community to me.
They're like family to me.
So we kind of we um what do youcall it?
We go, we go through the youknow the tough times, we
celebrate.
SPEAKER_00 (16:04):
Yeah, and we yeah.
I think that it's something thatlike so many people don't like
know how to do.
Because like myself, a lot of myfamily is just still here in
Utah.
We all live within like an hour.
And so when we have the toughtimes, um we have this built-in
community that we grew up with.
It's my older brother and youknow my siblings.
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Um and I think it's hard to,especially because you've done
it so many times, to uproot andthen find roots where you have
somebody that you can celebratethe good times with and mourn
the bad times with.
How do you how did you go aboutdoing that?
Like it's being able to openyourself up that much to people.
SPEAKER_01 (16:46):
Because every time
when I go to a new place, I have
start over the the process,right?
SPEAKER_00 (16:50):
You like totally
free yourself.
SPEAKER_01 (16:52):
Yeah, a new stranger
to that place.
And that I I have to well, I'velearned that I have to be reach
out.
I don't wait until other peopleto reach out to me.
I have to reach out and I haveto be more a little bit
outgoing.
SPEAKER_00 (17:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (17:08):
To you know, talk to
them, get to know the to know
their names, really know theirstories.
Um, so then we have that bondingand the relationship to you know
to um support each other.
SPEAKER_00 (17:23):
Yeah.
Were you born outgoing?
Were you an outgoing kid?
SPEAKER_01 (17:30):
Yes and no.
Yes and no.
Well, when I was younger, I wasshy.
Yeah, right.
And then when in college Ibecame more allgoing.
SPEAKER_00 (17:41):
Yeah.
Well, that's so good.
I think it's hard thattransition from like being kind
of more reserved and shy.
And then because it's true, Ithink that you have to a lot of
the times, especially in adultfriendships, you have to kind of
be that instigator to deepen theconnection, to be curious about
them.
Um, because a vast majority ofpeople aren't the ones that want
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to instigate.
They'll be they they'll happilylike wave high across the street
as you pull into your driveway,but but they're not gonna be
coming over and saying, hey,come over for dinner, and and
all those things.
So that's cool that you're ableto do that.
Are there any do you keep incontact with any of the people
from apart from family from likeOregon and California?
SPEAKER_01 (18:22):
Some, yeah, some
California, Colorado, yes.
Yeah, they really have becomeyeah, but yeah, well I want to
say uh a few of them areactually uh are my best friends.
Wow, yeah, yeah, to this day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:36):
That's so awesome.
How do you maintain thatfriendship across state lines
and stuff?
Like, do you guys still hang outvery often?
SPEAKER_01 (18:43):
Uh we don't hang
out, but we call.
Yeah.
Right?
Now we'll text each othernowadays.
So it's so convenient.
Yeah.
So we'll call, you know, when umit's our, you know, their
birthdays, I will just call themor they call me so we can keep
in touch.
SPEAKER_00 (19:01):
Yeah.
What impact would you saycommunity has had on you as your
kids became adults and you know,like having all those friends
over the years, what impact hasit had, or what what do you
think it would be like if youdidn't have that?
SPEAKER_01 (19:17):
Oh, that would be it
will be hard because that means
I well sometimes that can thecommunity actually actually
helped me raise my kids.
Wow.
Because we, you know, we have atendency to find friends uh with
same-age kids, right?
And then so we'll have dinnertogether, kids can play
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together.
Now, here you probably just dothat with family, yeah, right.
But over there is we'll do itwith the famil uh with the
friends.
SPEAKER_00 (19:45):
To become family.
SPEAKER_01 (19:46):
Yeah, they become
family.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:49):
Yeah, yeah.
In the moment, right, whenyou're all in that stage of
life, it's like so vital to haveit.
And now, even later, would yousay it's just as vital that
they're because you're now stillin the same phase of life,
they're probably empty nestersas well.
And like, have you found comfortor like solace, I guess, in
those friendships where it'slike, hey, we're still we're
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still in life together.
Like, I think that's cool.
SPEAKER_01 (20:13):
Yeah.
Now, like you said, emptynesters retired.
No job.
I mean, I didn't work, and soonly my husband and I, and we we
do have, I do have a couple ofuh, you know, like children and
and grandkids that live closeby.
So, but we only have like familydinners, right?
SPEAKER_00 (20:34):
Like once a month or
something.
SPEAKER_01 (20:35):
Yeah, yeah.
So every day for me to to uh notto be alone, I need to go out to
do something.
So that's why I go to the gymevery day.
Yeah.
Even just one hour, meetingpeople, talking to people, laugh
with them, or just laugh at thesilly things they do.
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Yeah uh just that made me happyand yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (21:01):
That's just having
that, like said, the small
little connections, whether it'sa little conversation or oh,
how's how's your kid doing, orwhatever, like just having that
connection can like said onehour can change the trajectory
of your whole day versus wakingup and then being alone.
Like it's like even if you'recontent with yourself as a
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person, being alone for 12 hoursor 16 awake hours every single
day is a lot, you know?
So that's really cool that youhave that.
Um you've hit PRs, uh, backsquat, deadlift, all the PRs
over the last decade, I'm sure.
Which personal record has meantthe most to you and then why?
SPEAKER_01 (21:40):
Uh I won't say
deadlift.
Well, because um I remember halfa year ago we were working on
the death lift deadlifts once ortwice a week uh for you know for
that.
And then um we just kept uh keptbuilding up.
Yeah, you know how that goes putmore weights every day.
We pull more weights.
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So on the day of the lifting,um, you know, our one rep max,
uh huh.
So I hit uh 170, which is like Isaid, it may be light for other
young folks.
SPEAKER_00 (22:16):
But still, and it's
also heavy for a lot of young
folks.
SPEAKER_01 (22:18):
I don't know, but
anyway, but yeah, it meant a lot
to me because I put all the hardwork to do it and build it up,
right?
So it just makes me feel strongand so proud of myself, you
know, just like, oh, I can doit, 170 pounds, and that's
pretty good.
SPEAKER_00 (22:37):
That's huge.
Like there's a lot of youngpeople that probably will never
one, go to the gym in theirlife, and then two, ever
deadlift any, you know, anythingclose to that.
So that's so cool.
And then I think I like the ideaof uh deadlift too.
It's not quite the same, butlike the squatting down and
picking up motion is likesomething you're using every
single day, especially with yourgrandkids.
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Like if you can deadlift 170pounds, you can pick up your
grandkids into their teenageyears if you want to.
So that's really cool.
Um, is there a crossfit movethat you secretly dread, but
that you do it anyway?
SPEAKER_01 (23:13):
Um I won't tell Eli.
Well, no, you probably knowsburpees.
Oh I I you know the lifting, youknow, like lifting or squats,
that type of thing with theweights, I always can uh modify
and scale down.
Yeah.
So it's not a problem.
Yeah.
(23:33):
Yeah.
You have to go down to the floorand then push up yourself and
then jump up, and you keep godoing that.
So um the workouts sometimes youknow they have eight to ten
times, which is hard.
Yeah, yeah.
But uh I I try to to what'swhat's the word to tell me to
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pump pump up?
SPEAKER_00 (23:56):
Pump yourself up.
SPEAKER_01 (23:57):
Yeah, saying that I
can do this, just do one at a
time, one down, one up, and bythe time halfway, then I'll say,
Oh, halfway done.
This should be easy.
Going downhill, downhill.
So that's how I yeah, but thisis the one I really yeah, I
think like because it's just socool.
SPEAKER_00 (24:18):
The amount so I've
been in this space and working
with older adults for a fewyears now, talk and worked with
hundreds of older people, andthe amount of people that like
at 60 couldn't do three burpeesor maybe even one, and you're
doing eight to ten, probablyregular like burpees is a pretty
integral part of like CrossFit.
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They're always it's a lot ofcardio as burpees.
And so it's really cool thatyou're able to do that.
SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
But I'm doing very
slowly, but that's okay.
I do, I go down, I'll get themslowly.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (24:51):
That's so cool.
Um kind of the the lastquestion, parting note with um
whether it's this older personthat's listening today, or maybe
a lot of the times it's umadministrators or people that
work with older seniors or theiradult kids that listen to this,
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and they think it's too late forme, you know, I'm 60, I'm 70,
I'm 80, whatever the age, um, tostart moving.
What would be your message andadvice to them?
SPEAKER_01 (25:21):
Well, it's always
it's never too late.
You just start doing whatwhatever you can do now, and
anything do whatever, anythingis better than nothing.
And then like we always say lineupon line, step by step step,
slowly, little by little, Iguarantee you will be amazed and
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proud of how you can become astronger, more mobile, more
confident, and happier person.
And I remember seeing uh thisfrom Instagram, there's some old
folks they're sitting in thechairs, um in chairs, and then
doing their exercise.
So you don't have to jumparound, jumping up and down,
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yeah, even just sitting on achair.
You still can get that done,yeah, little by little, and you
get stronger.
Eventually, hopefully, you canget up and do some, but
definitely start little.
Start now, yeah, and it won'twon't be late.
SPEAKER_00 (26:24):
Yeah, I love that.
That's honestly inspiring.
I think that um, yeah, little bylittle, step by step, there's a
quote that I really love, and itsays, um, you can suck, but you
can't skip it.
So, like, show up, even if youfeel like you're moving slower
that day, or even if you'relike, I've got all these other
pains and I can't do the fullworkout or whatever, you can you
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can suck or not be great at it,but don't skip.
And I think that Beverly, yourstory is a powerful example of
strength.
It's not just about liftingweights, it's not just about
eating healthy, it's just beingconsistent and resilient and
talking to yourself and choosingto invest in your health every
day.
So that way, no matter what yourage is, you're able to be
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vibrant and full of vitality andjust a really awesome story.
Um, so I appreciate you comingon the podcast and sharing your
experience.
SPEAKER_01 (27:17):
Well, thank you for
inviting me.
SPEAKER_00 (27:19):
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you.