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Lauren Langman (00:09):
Welcome to the
Absolute Dog Sex in a Squirrel
podcast.
I'm Lauren Langman.
I'm one of the world's leadingdog trainers and it's my mission
to help owners become theirdog's top priority.
In each episode, you'lldiscover how to gain trust and
communicate with your dog likenever before, creating
unbreakable bonds that make youthe most exciting part of their
world.
Okay, well, that was fun,wasn't it?
(00:30):
We had a podcast with no audio.
No audio.
So we are now take two ofpodcasts.
We were talking heads too funny.
So tummies, we're talkingtummies today, and I know you've
had a fairly stressful 24 hourswith a poorly tummy and I don't
mean your tummy, linda.
I'm fairly fit and well,actually.
Thank you very much.
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High five to fit and well.
I'll take high five to fit andwell.
You're fit and well.
But little Bobble, he's a baby.
He's not a baby human, he's ababy dog and he is.
He's a small poodle.
He's a tiny poodle.
He's like one kilo of poodleand he's had a bad tummy.
He's been away from home, he'sbeen training, he's had some
rich food, he's had some funexperiences and his tummy's
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upset.
Linda (01:13):
It is, and his tummy was
not a good tummy before he got
here.
Yeah, remember, he's a pooreater.
I haven't been able to getthings into him that would build
his gut biome before we came.
Lauren Langman (01:28):
And you said
he's a poor eater.
The reason you can't build himeasily is because he actually
won't eat it.
So all of the things that wemight use typically to help
build a gut microbiome, heactually refuses or potentially
will refuse.
So we've got the tummy episode.
Right now, we're going to talkabout the gut microbiome and
we're going to talk about whatwe can do in the future, and
we're going to talk about thegut microbiome and we're going
to talk about what we can do inthe future and we're going to
talk about, um, how we mightfeel as owners, but we are in
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the middle of poonami.
So, whilst we're in the middleof poonami, actually what can we
do?
And I think this is reallyimportant you're laughing.
Still, it's really important.
We acknowledge that.
You know what.
You've been up every hour and ahalf, yes, in the night, yes,
you're looking great consideringand you actually need a
solution right now.
So we're going to talk throughthe solutions right now because,
obviously, number one, if thisdog is lethargic, if this dog is
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lacking like lust and like life, is they need to get to the vet
.
Yes, and I will checktemperature.
If you've got high temperatureor if you're running like a
fever.
You need to get this dog to avet and ultimately, whilst I
typically and l Linda typicallywon't take our dogs to a vet in
an episode like this, our dogsaren't lethargic and our dogs
are still acting fairly normal,full of life and got spark.
Linda (02:32):
It's about the spark.
If that spark's still there.
You see it in their eyes, don'tyou?
Yes, you do, you see it intheir eyes.
Lauren Langman (02:37):
If your dog is
not, and sometimes I mean
they're not smelling right, andI know that sounds odd, but
sometimes when a dog reallysmells odd, you know that
there's something more moresinister maybe going on or more
serious, or it can just be areal, real tummy bug, um.
But in the first instance,let's say the dog is um good
temperature or normaltemperature, in the normal range
and temperature.
Remember you take thetemperature up the bottom, so
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it's a rectal temperature whenyou do um any dog's temperature.
But let's say our, our dog isfairly normal in themselves.
He is normal in himself, right?
How is he behaving?
Linda (03:08):
He's full of beans.
He's playing.
He's trying to steal the bigdog's food.
He wouldn't actually eat it ifhe could, but he's possessive.
He's still a cheeky chappy.
He's still being cheeky.
He's still biting and being apain.
Lauren Langman (03:22):
And how old is
he?
You know biting and being apain, and how old is he?
He's four months.
So he's four months old, stillbeing a typical puppy and still
being bouncy.
So we know he's got a bad tummy.
We know he's been up every hourand a half now.
A lot of students and a lot ofpeople that I know they don't
necessarily know what to go toand they don't have their first
aid kit, so to speak.
And you've come away and you'vegot your first aid kit and the
first thing you're going to goto is Rescue Canine or a similar
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product which is sort of yourprobiotics, your clay, your
tummy clay, your probiotics,your electrolyte, which is
really important, those types ofproducts.
Ours is AOK9.
It's Rescue Canine and it's therapid support.
That's what you're going to usein the middle of the poo-nami.
Yes, you've got the poohappening.
It's not pleasant for anyone.
It's not pleasant for you.
It's not pleasant for anyone.
It's not pleasant for you.
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It's not pleasant for the dog,it's not pleasant for the other
dogs.
Um, I know, in my dogs I'veever had bad tummies.
You'll see the others like walkaround, like oh my god, don't
stand near that.
And watering can comes out hose, pipe, hot wash brush, like all
the things.
Uh, get out there.
But your rescue canine, it'syour rapid support and and it's
your stall rescue pace for dogs.
This is so easy to use people.
Linda (04:21):
Forget that.
You don't need to be botheredabout trying to mix powders or
anything.
These syringes are so easy touse.
You just fix it to the dosethat the dog's going to need.
So you said he had two mil.
Perfect, not very much at all.
Got my two mil, got your twomil.
Then I would just open the sideof the mouth so the loose skin,
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uh-huh in the cheek and bangsquirt squirt.
The stuff in bang squirt hewill go.
Lauren Langman (04:55):
I don't like it,
so don't do it near your best
sofa and try and spit it on thefloor and he'll go.
Linda (05:01):
So all I do is I hold his
chin up.
So so then he's going to keeptrying moving it in his mouth
and eventually he'll justswallow it.
Lauren Langman (05:08):
And you also
said something last night that
you did, which I thought wasgreat, when you said about
putting it down the side of hismouth, sort of with a finger
sometimes, or just gettinganother way of getting it.
Linda (05:17):
Put it on the finger, put
it in, even smear it on his
tongue, drag it off, spit itdown on the floor, Magic magic.
Lauren Langman (05:31):
Now, what I
really like about a product like
Rescue Canine, it's rapidsupport.
It's your stool rescue pastefor dogs.
So for me it's actually verystressful as an owner having a
dog pooing everywhere or havinga bad tummy.
Not only are you worried aboutthe dog, you're cleaning up,
you're coping with the smell.
You might have other dogs, youmight have other people, you
might have children or family ormum or dad or granddad or
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grandma, or you might be grandmaand you've got granddaughter.
Linda (05:55):
All of those scenarios
are stressful and you're
stressed that they might have anaccident.
Lauren Langman (05:58):
That's the one
that plays into my mind always
yeah, and I mean I can tell younow like cleaning poo on this
floor is a nightmare.
Carpets oh my god.
I had pebble dashing not thatlong ago from skittles.
Matt said we should have takena video ready for telling people
about how to use it becausewithin 24 hours she was back to
normal.
However, the pebble dashing ofour gorgeous bathroom was not
fun like and she really, and shehadn't told me.
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I all, I all I saw.
I got up in the morning.
It was 7 am.
I got up, I walked into thebathroom and it was like some
sort of scene.
Um, and it was.
It was everywhere.
It was everywhere.
Linda, I'll show you a picture.
It was everywhere.
I took a picture.
First thing to do take a pictureand go.
What do I do with this?
And your words are isn't thatinteresting?
And what you're really thinkingis for god's sake, what the
hell is this?
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And Matt was like what's up?
Lauren, isn't that interesting,matt, as you walk in there and
the smell like knocks you out.
I don't know about you, but I'vegot a hugely sensitive nose,
like I notice, notice anything.
I really like a nice smellinghouse.
I like nice smelling dogs, Ilike nice smelling things.
So to go into Poonami is likeno fun for anyone.
It's no fun, it's prettydisgusting.
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And so for me, immediately Ipicked her up, I got that into
my mouth and I will use this.
And typically it says on aproduct like this use it twice a
day, both ends of the day, usethis.
And typically it says on aproduct like this use it twice a
day, both ends of the day.
I personally will use it multitimes a day and I'll use it
multi times a day until I get afirm stall.
And when I say a firm stall, Imean a poo that's not sloppy all
over the floor, I mean a poothat has shape and form.
And I know you guys arethinking why are we talking poo
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shape and form?
We're dog owners, we handledogs all day long, you pick up
poo all day long, so I wouldn'treally overthink it.
It's just the poo shape andtexture, absolutely and what
about you, linda, because I usethat all day long.
Linda (07:33):
Typically it'll say am
and pm but I use it all day long
, so so the puppy got that allall day yesterday, so every few
hours he was getting some ofthis and I thought we were on
the mend yesterday afternoon.
Um, because he's we're talkingpoo shape, poo shape.
Uh it, it was starting to befirming up again.
Well, not firming up, but just,rather than being explosive,
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more density and all of that.
And watery, it got a little bitmore texture.
I thought, oh, that's goodbefore.
And the other thing I I noticedin that there may be no
scientific evidence for thiswhatsoever, but I noticed they
start.
There's a point where theystart to pee more.
Yes, yes, because inflammationin the gut holds water.
Yeah, and then if theinflammation starts to go down,
they'll start to pee it out.
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Yeah, and I thought yesterdayafternoon he was gonna be okay,
but he had had some kibble andstuff, yeah, as a reward.
Lauren Langman (08:24):
Yeah, so I think
that sets us off again back a
bit, and that's something to becareful of, isn't it?
What else are they getting inbetween?
Um?
So, thinking on your blood,yeah, just think, thinking a
little bit smart, what they'rehaving and actually sometimes um
, an empty tummy for a littlewhile isn't a bad thing, and
especially if your dog really isfood refusing, I actually will
let them food refuse for a bit,because sometimes you know what
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it's like if you need to refusefood.
Yes, it's actually your bodytelling you something.
And, like I said, if your dog'slethargic, get to a vet.
If your dog's not lethargic,then these are things that we do
and these are things we we'vegot.
Now you say you carry thesetypes of things in your first
aid kit.
How does that make you feel?
Linda (08:58):
well, that means I've
always got the all eventualities
covered when I'm traveling,because there's nothing worse
than having a dog on a van andliving, you know, staying away
from home and and these sorts ofthings happening and you've got
nothing that you can use to doit.
So I have a first aid kit on myvan which includes the tubes of
paste.
Lauren Langman (09:17):
Yeah, and you
think it's a first aid kit and
clean-up kit and it just makeslife easier and we've got like
the bin bag, we've got the spray, we've got these types of
things, we've got like a andbacterial wine.
Linda (09:28):
Yeah, it's all there it's
all there, all on my van, it's
ready.
Lauren Langman (09:30):
We've even got
dressings and bandages and it's
all there it's all there and Ithink this is really important
to acknowledge.
Guys, it's all there and it'sall ready to use.
Now that one's obviously in thein.
Like you said, you're doingthat all day long and you can do
that as often as you need to.
It says when you've got anemergency, when you've got an
emergency, that's what you use.
You're not using thatday-to-day, you're doing that in
a punami, so using that in apunami.
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However, we also talked aboutthere's lots of ways we can look
after our dog's guts generallyand, of course, there are like
lots of good fermented foods.
There's kefir and there's lotsof other things that you can
make at home, but also in apacket form that sometimes um is
for me, a good go-to andactually it's going to get you
millions and millions andmillions of good gut bacteria.
I know both of us will useProBio.
(10:13):
Yes, why do we?
Linda (10:14):
use that so that
routinely goes into their food.
That gives them a resilient gutbiome?
Yes, so that then you're lesslikely to get this sort of
episode I've got with the puppy.
Yeah, I wouldn't expect myolder dogs to get into trouble
with their gut biome becausethey are protected, because I'm
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constantly paying attention tobuilding a healthy bacterial
load.
Lauren Langman (10:41):
I'm looking at
this now and I'm thinking
actually I probably should usethis instead of the one I'm
using.
It looks pretty darn good andso actually it's pretty strong.
It is actually all in a humangrade.
So it's all human grade and Ithink that's good to know.
For all of our products theyeverything canine is human grade
, which is a really nice thing.
Now, how do you give your dogsthat so?
Linda (10:59):
that's mixed in their
food.
So mine are fed raw, but I makeup a veg mix that goes with
their meat, which includes somefermented products, and it
includes this um, theirprobiotic, nice um, food, and me
too, I might get raw.
Lauren Langman (11:17):
I pop it in a
mix, I batch, cook, because I
might say cook, I freeze.
Yeah, with 10 dogs you kind ofneed to um, and for me, when I'm
making a batch up, I will mixup that batch raw sort of tub
and I'll put that into bones andthen I freeze it.
Why you can keep your probioticfrozen but you cannot heat it.
(11:40):
So for me it's actually saferto put it in a freezer.
So actually I always freeze itand I give them something.
Then it's also enriching forthem.
So they've got something to do.
Uh, and you were saying thatactually, um, in the summer
yours will be in a cool box ifyou've got any on the bio, or
yeah, if I'm traveling, then itwill go in the cool box.
Linda (11:54):
At the moment it's fine
because, yeah, the temperature
is low temperature is low.
Lauren Langman (11:58):
Basically, um,
you're trying to keep it out of
direct um sunlight and um youwant to keep it between 10 and
25, which is still quite asensible temperature doesn't go
over 25, but to be honest, itdoesn't go over that in the uk
ever.
Anyway, if you live in one ofthose places, pop it in the
fridge, um, but those are sortof places that you can and all
of this and keep in the fridge.
Linda (12:16):
Giving your dog a good
gut bio is not just about
avoiding episodes like I'm goingthrough at the moment with the
pup.
It's about helping a dog thatmight have a bad skin or might
be reactive and have because itstummy's not very comfortable.
There's all sorts of reasons toreally really care for your gut
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.
Lauren Langman (12:37):
I like that you
said like naughty but nice dogs
in particular you feel shouldhave a level of probiotic always
.
Linda (12:43):
Yes, always, always,
because, if you think about it,
if you're finding the world astressful place in people that
can cause tummy problems, peopleget either ulcers or they get
irritable bowel syndrome, ibs ismassive, isn't it?
Lauren Langman (13:00):
because stress
is really really a big, a big
factor?
Yes, and naughty, but nice dogs, we know, are more stressed
they are, so it's.
Linda (13:09):
It's just it should
routinely be paid attention to
it for naughty but nice dogs andI know you talked about
fermented foods as well.
Lauren Langman (13:16):
Like for my dogs
, that isn't always so, it's
just there.
It's something they always have, particularly if they're at
heavy competition as well.
The other thing at heavycompetition, so both of our dogs
compete.
When you're at competitions,you are going to see more.
There's more out there.
There's more.
There's more stress, there'smore bugs yeah, there's more
potential to get infection.
There's more, um, poo, there'smore, uh, everything else that
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goes with poo like there's, it'sjust, it's just more prone,
because you're in an area withhundreds and thousands of dogs
at times.
So, um, for me, that is a goodconsideration, but I know you
also add some different foods in, so you talked about your
fermented foods, just soeverybody gets an idea of that.
What do you add?
So?
apple cider vinegar with motheris one that I and the mother
looks like that stuff at thebottom.
Linda (13:58):
Yeah, it's a sort of
smoky stuff, do you?
Lauren Langman (14:00):
ever take it
yourself.
No, oh, linda, I do, I swig it.
It's actually quite disgustingand when Matt and I do it, we do
this and then we go like thisas we take it and then after
that he normally will try and goin like an ice bath.
He's got plunge pool.
I actually at that point feelquite ill and go out and try and
do something sunny, um, but uh,and it really.
One thing I would not recommendis don't have apple cider
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vinegar and then oil.
I did that once.
I had like a um, a really goodquality and like shine, like
like an amiga.
All right, oh my god, that wasa horrible concoction.
Apple cider vinegar and areally strong amiga war.
No, none of that, we're notgonna.
Sorry guys, we'll move on fromthat point.
But yeah, apple cider vinegarwith mother really important
kefir is the other one, but thatgoes in my dog and what do you
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put in your kefir goat's?
Linda (14:44):
milk or cow's milk.
Mine have cow's milk.
Yeah, because I'm too lazy tobuy goat's milk.
Lauren Langman (14:51):
I love that.
No, you're good're good.
I do feed them goat's milk.
Yeah, I use goat's milk, butonly because where we live we're
such sort of rural territory wecan actually buy it from
Farmgate.
See, I don't like the smell ofgoat's milk.
Oh, it's disgusting, it'sabsolutely disgusting, and I
don't actually like goat'scheese either Me neither.
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Actually disgusting, actuallygross For the dogs acceptable.
So we're going to use ProBio ona daily basis.
We're going to use this one inan SOS Poonami experience.
The other one that I'll use inthe aftermath or during,
depending on what's needed, isthe Rescue Canine Sashays, and
that's a real fast support aswell.
(15:33):
I know you have used these inthe past lots and lots of times
with good support For me.
I'll use them post this.
That's immediate and it's easyto administer.
Like you said, it's ease of use, isn't it?
Linda (15:43):
That is so easy to use.
It's so easy and you know a lotof people trot off to the bit
and they get something similarto that anyway.
Lauren Langman (15:51):
Yeah, and
actually you'll pay 60 pounds
instead of like 10, 15, 20,depending on what you want to do
, what size you want to consultfee yeah, I mean, you're looking
at very different costs.
Not that cost is everything,and I know that if your dog is
lethargic, yes, get to the vet.
But actually for me, the first48 hours I can probably solve it
.
Yeah, um, if I can't solve it,then I'm off to the vet.
We trot, haha.
And but I actually wouldn'twant to rush to the vet with a
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dog who's already potentiallystressed, or or um compromised
immunity, um, with a pup that'syoung and bad tummy, because I
know there's a lot that I can do.
First, now, with my sachets, Iuse those with um their food,
and I do that.
Or even it could be with kefir,yeah.
Or it could be with um in myshaker.
I could use it with fresh, yes,yeah, because actually it's
really important your dog stayshydrated as well after any
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episode, isn't it?
Linda (16:36):
yeah, yeah, so, um, I've
been using a bit of bone broth
nice just to get some liquidinto him.
Good um, rather than plainwater.
Good um, but, but you've got somany electrolytes in this.
Lauren Langman (16:48):
It's actually
all right for them to drink
water, it's just as long asthey're hydrated exactly that
the electrolytes are taken careof, and I think this is where
it's really important toacknowledge how you're going to
look after that body.
So the electrolyte, the balanceand what's there again really
important, so the combination oflong-term yep, immediate action
, sos punami.
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Yeah, aftercare, isn't it?
It's that little bit ofaftercare to make sure, as he
goes on the mend, we're going touse that now.
Lots of different real likereasons for poor tummies.
We obviously talked about himbeing young, uh, him being poor
gut microbiome, poor eater andtraveling away from home and
different food.
So he had rich food in training.
Linda (17:28):
Like, there's a lot of
things to take into
consideration he's still not tolearn not to pick up naughty
things when he's out on the wall, mmm.
Lauren Langman (17:39):
And I remember
Katie picking up a snail and
swallowed it and I rememberthinking that is awful and guys,
slugs and snails are huge forlungworm problems and lungworm
isn't a worm that you are aregonna um always be able to find
and treat.
So it's one of those tests thatyou really need to do a
lungworm test, um, butultimately try and stop them
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doing it.
So don't let them pick upstones and snails and and things
out and about, because all ofthem have consequences.
And that's linda's um homeworkright now, like disengagement
from the environment.
She's working hard on it buthe's a baby yeah, and he's going
to do it.
Linda (18:15):
Interruption noise that's
my go-to see it as normal.
Lauren Langman (18:19):
So see, it's
completely normal when your
puppy does things like this.
Linda (18:21):
Yeah of course they will.
They're exploring the world andsomething sort of smells
somewhat tasty, so I'll have abit of that thing I'll have a
bit of that.
Lauren Langman (18:28):
Thanks, um bless
him.
So so we've got um.
Linda (18:32):
The other tip I loved it
was when you said you popped it
on your finger sometimes, justremind everybody what you do
there so that's good, down theside of the mouth, or if that's
not possible, then I put it onmy finger and open the mouth and
I either scrape my fingeracross the teeth or down the
tongue, so, and then I might dothat and they will do this,
won't they?
Yeah, so you must support thehead so that all the licking and
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moving it about in the mouthmeans it goes down the throat.
Lauren Langman (18:57):
So we've given
you a bit of a tummy SOS.
I know that it can be stressfulfor you, it can be stressful
for us, it can be stressful forthe family, it can be stressful
for the household, it can bestressful for the floor, it can
be stressful for the dog, it canbe stressful for anyone who's
involved in the dog and actuallyit can cause real upset in in
many different ways, andparticularly when you get a dog
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with like IBS, where it's commonand it happens regularly.
What we're going to say isthere's so many solutions out
there for you, so go grab someof the solutions.
Yes, today there's a £10 offcode that you can go and use.
It's over literally in the AOCanine store and it's Happy
Tummy.
So it's Happy Tummy, is your£10 off code.
You can get it off absolutelyanything, so you can get this
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one really below cost price ifyou want it.
That's the Rescue Canine RapidSupport.
So it is Happy Tummy, that'syour code and it's over in the
AO Canine store.
I'd love you to ask us morequestions, to talk to us, to
share your journey, becauseultimately, if you don't need to
head to a vet, it's a stressfulexperience.
Linda (19:56):
It's best for everybody.
Absolutely.
It's much better, if you can,to just deal with it at home and
move on and like you said,you've got your kit.
Lauren Langman (20:06):
You've got your
rescue kit, you've got your
first aid kit.
How do you feel when you'reprepared, linda?
Linda (20:10):
Well, I always have to be
prepared.
That's part of your nature.
I find it very hard not to beprepared and having to adjust
when I've forgotten something.
So my van is equipped witheverything for the dogs, because
they're the priority.
Lauren Langman (20:29):
So Linda's
prepared.
Are you prepared?
Are you ready for Poonami?
We hope it doesn't happen, andyet Bobble says some days it
does Tummy care.
Good gut microbiome, goodpreparation, good understanding,
good knowledge and, most of all, make it a great day, guys.
Go out, educate yourself, getready for these situations, just
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in case they happen, and makeit a really amazing day.
Well done, linda.
Have a good day.