Season 1 Ep 92: God has your stuff with Rev. Sydney Finn

I had the absolute pleasure of interviewing Rev. Sydney Finn who has single-handedly transformed my relationship with God. 

In today's episode we cover: 
* energetics
* God and how God has everything you desire
* energetic boob jobs 

It's so so good!!! You don't want to miss this one! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Cashflow and Manifestation
Project Podcast.
My name is Katie Smith and I ama Manifestation and Mindset
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tools of manifestation and somespiritual woo.
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interviews and talks centered onunlocking your inner magic,

(00:22):
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(01:52):
Okay, y'all have a treat today,because I had the honor and the
privilege of interviewingsomeone who is newer to my life
I would say in March of 2024.
And I became quickly obsessedbecause she is just magical,
magical.
So I interviewed ReverendSydney Finn, who is an intuitive
guide speaker, a podcast hostand group facilitator, and she

(02:16):
has done so many amazing thingsin my life with the work that
she does.
We talked for about an hour andit gets super juicy good at the
end, so you're going to want tostay to the end.
She talks about an energeticboob job, how she completely
manipulated her body withoutgoing under the knife to grow
her boobs five times the sizethat they were.

(02:37):
It's absolutely incredible andI just had such a great time
talking with her and I wouldhave talked to her for another
three hours, but, of course, Iwanted to respect her time.
She has helped thousands withintuitive readings worldwide.
She works with clients in sixcontinents and counting.
She now leads people to theirhighest potential, myself
included.

(02:57):
She helps people with energeticoptimization and supports
people making a masterpiece ofthe lives that they live.
It's honestly beautiful,beautiful work.
She's doing God's work.
She.
I think she's such a big deal,but she's going to be so huge
someday because of the way thatshe teaches and it's so

(03:18):
digestible and it's very woo andspiritual, which you know I am
all about that.
But I even asked her if shecould break it down for people
who are newer to this kind ofstuff, like, where would you
have them start?
And the way she just blendsthings together is just so
beautiful.
Her emphasis is on energeticmastery, which really drew me in
, but her work is centeredaround connecting you to your
spirit, your sacred desires anda unique relationship with God,

(03:42):
and she talks all about how noone has the same God.
She has single-handedly healedmy relationship with God just
through her work, and so I'm soexcited to give this to you and
so, without further ado, let'sget into it.
Okay, I am so freaking honoredand excited that you are here
with me and I get to pick yourbrain, because you

(04:04):
single-handedly have completelychanged my life with your free
content, mind you.
And then I did invest in aprogram that just took it next
level.
But, sydney, thank you so muchfor being here.
I'm so honored you took thetime.
I thought we could start bygiving my audience a little bit
of your backstory, kind of liketell us a little bit about
yourself and what you do.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
So this, if we're talking about what I'm doing
today, this has kind of been setup way, way, way back in
childhood.
I've always had a naturalinclination towards religion,
spirituality, metaphysics thatwas.
I was the kid on the playgroundwith a binder full of astrology
stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Talking to people about astrology, so I've been
like this forever.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
It just evolved over time Eventually.
It's like my teenage years wereparticularly rough and then
once I moved out of the house at17, then I ended up stumbling
into a mentor and we could saythat was most definitely a
divine appointment, because shecaught me like right into
adulthood, and so then ourrelationship is where a lot of

(05:15):
my intuitive skills were built.
So what she taught me primarilywas to do cold psychic readings
.
Primarily was to do coldpsychic readings.
So it was about energeticsafety, energetic boundaries,

(05:37):
ethics.
There was a lot of stuffinvolved in like just the
ethical approach to energeticsand the safe approach to
energetics.
And she taught me many, manyother things.
And she taught me many, manyother things.
But that was like a fewfoundational skills that I built
in terms of my own practice.
And then the original goal wasjust I love giving people
sessions and being able to dothe cold readings, and so then

(06:06):
the original goal was just Iwant to be able to do the
readings and support myselffinancially.
That was my only motive in thebeginning, and so everything was
built with that goal in mind,which, you know, after a couple
of years I was good to go withall of that stuff.
But then, since then, my workhas just continually evolved
over time.
My work has just continuallyevolved over time.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Wow.
So you kind of have always hadthese inner gifts regarding
medium psychic?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I don't even know if I know the difference between a
medium and a psychic.
So my definition of thatbecause here's the thing with a
lot of the metaphysical stuffeveryone has different
definitions.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
So it's kind of a semantics game and a definition
issue.
So I make sure to remind people.
It's like these are mydefinitions but you could go
talk to the next one and they'renot going to give you the same
verbiage as me.
So my definition a medium is amouthpiece.
A psychic is a seer definitiona medium is a mouthpiece, a
psychic is a seer.
So if I'm doing a cold psychicreading, I'm just looking at you

(07:13):
and reflecting what I'm seeing.
I'm looking at you andreflecting what I'm seeing.
Or you're asking me questions,I'm telling you what I'm seeing
and that's it Got it.
So a medium is I'm receivingthis and then I'm the mouthpiece
for whatever Got it.
So I'm speaking on behalf of theloved one or I'm speaking on
behalf of like for pet mediums,I'm speaking on behalf of the

(07:35):
animal.
That's sketchy for me.
That's way too much embodiment.
So that's for safety reasons.
That's a big no-no in my world.
I don't mess with channelingany type of mediumship.
That's big fat no.
So other people can do that,but not in my world.

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That's not something I do.
So that's the distinctionbetween the two.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Got it and you feel like you've always kind of had a
talent and being able to tuneinto that.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
This is kind of a difficult question to answer,
only because I wouldn't havesaid that about myself.
It was my mentor who identifiedit.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Oh, wow, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
So she was the one who was like you're very, very
good at this, you should do it.
So she kind of pushed me, likeif you want me to train you, I
will.
So that was how that wholething got started.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
It's so hard to put a name to what you do, but I know
that you are very good atspeaking about energetics, how
the universe works, god.
But how would you say, like,what is your line of work?
Ministry, ministry.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, so I would consider myself a minister.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Perfect.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Because my work is faith-based.
I focus on God.
I talk about God, talk aboutenergetics.
So that is how I wouldcategorize myself perfect.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
You have single-handedly repaired my
relationship with God and thechurch, and when I say the
church, I mainly mean what youdo, because I my life little bit
of backstory.
My audience knows this.
I grew up Roman Catholic andyou know the shame and the guilt
that is in that I.
I always longed for arelationship with God.
I found old diaries when I wasmoving we just moved to Texas

(09:28):
and I was writing to God and Ijust so badly wanted to be loved
and desired Not desired, but adesire to relationship with God
to where I felt like a chosenone.
But I was terrified to set footin a church.
And when my husband and I firststarted dating he also comes
from a Roman Catholic church andgoing to church is very
important to him and I rememberlike this is going to be a deal

(09:49):
breaker, like I would cry at thethought of stepping foot in a
Catholic church.
It was so bad and it wasn'tuntil I discovered your podcast,
which I can't even figure outhow I'll be honest with you.
It's amazing.
And be honest with you.
It's amazing.
And your messages it's calledSunday messages.
We're going to link everythingin the show notes but like you
have helped heal that so much.

(10:10):
I've never had a closerrelationship with God than I do
today and I literally can saythat's all because of you.
It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Wow, I love this.
See, it's interesting becausethis, this also was never part
of the plan, like in terms of myown motivations.
It's like I'm not coming outhere like, okay, everyone, let's
repair our relationship withGod.
It just naturally fell intothat, and so it's wild hearing

(10:38):
the amount of people who havesimilar sentiments that you're
sharing now.
So it's just really cool for meto hear on my end.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I'm sure, and like I just I'm so grateful for you
finding this work and thentalking about it, because I'm
sure it was probably youactually mentioned this in your
seven, your seven um, thevirtues that you're doing
heavenly virtues, thank you, umthat you're doing that are just
incredible.
Like y'all listening to this,you're gonna need to look her up

(11:08):
and start following her, buthow you were like even hesitant.
So you have this program church, and how you were talking about
, how you were hesitant to evenname it, that oh yeah, that's so
scary.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Christians are oh I know's like that's one of the
big things that is scary for me.
I'm not worried about someoneagnostic stumbling across my
work.
It's the Christians who aregoing to want to persecute me or
like.
All of that stuff is where it'sedgy, because my views oppose

(11:46):
so much of Christianity.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Completely.
I love it because that'spersonally, that's what I needed
to heal and so that's, you know, it's all God's timing and how
you came into my life and now Ihave even closer relationship
with God and it's interesting tolike have to undo what you
think God once was from theteachings.
But anyone listening to thiswho might struggle with their

(12:10):
relationship with God like yougot to give it another chance.
Because, like I'd say, I waslike the worst off I'm not
saying it's a contest, but likethe fear, like I just said how I
would cry I almost was going tolose my now husband crying at
the idea of stepping foot in achurch again, because I just was
like so traumatized from moreso the shaming, like nothing bad
happened in terms of like abuse.
It was just like you knoweverything being drenched in

(12:31):
that.
So I'm so grateful for you andyour work.
Your work is beautiful and Ithink it's helping a lot of
people.
I don't know that, but I canonly feel that.
Tell us a little bit about likewhat inspired you to.
So I know you said this wasn'tyour plan, but like how did it?
How did you stumble upon it?
And then you're like I justwant to talk about this and now
you have like this huge business.

(12:53):
How did it all unfold to now?
This is what you do.
How?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
did I narrow my focus on God?
Basically?
How did it kind of become moreniche?
Yes, okay, Okay.
So let's see where do I want togo with this, Because there's
so many different startingplaces.
Let's go back to 2017 for asecond.
My love life has been the mostdifficult area of life for me by

(13:20):
far.
That was actually where myintimacy with God really started
.
Or I should say thisdifferently my wrestling with
God started.
So I grew up with a very, verytraumatic background that we
won't get into here.
It's too much for one podcast.
So all of that set me up for alot of intimacy issues.

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I'm highly avoidant, terrifiedof intimacy Like sending a text
message would bring me to tearsbecause I was so unable to
tolerate even risking rejection.
So with that, I ended upmeeting a beautiful, wonderful
man in my life, but at that timeI was not prepared.

(14:05):
I was not ready or able to holdand receive the relationship
fully, so that sent me intobasically feeling tormented or
tortured by God.
You bring me this perfect matchand I'm not able to receive it.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm not able to receive it.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
So I'm feeling teased and taunted and deceived by God
.
So it is agonizing day afterday after day after day over
this relationship, and that waswhere I really had to.
I mean, this sent me back totherapy.
I have to do trauma work.
This is years and years ofwrestling with God every day.
Like this, I am not.

(14:50):
It's the screaming, crying,throwing up type of
dysfunctional mental health.
I'm incapacitated, barely ableto work.
So this was years of wrestlingand it always came back to I'm
feeling betrayed by God over andover and over.
That was what I had to dealwith and what I was navigating

(15:14):
at that time.
So there was a very long seasonwhere it was just me and God
hashing it out, figuring it out.
So then that was the firstpiece was just me coming to
terms with all of that andgetting on more steady ground.
And it was a lot of turbulence.
That would take me into why,god, why?

(15:37):
But I'd get a response.
So I'd be crying and freakingout over the relationship, but
then I'd hear God.
I would be in doubt and fearand then I would hear God and I

(15:58):
would be reassured by God.
I would tell God I'm scared,I'm scared, you're tricking me
I'm.
Do you trust me to hold this?
Do you trust what I've broughtyou?
Do you trust the message thatI've continually given you about
this relationship?
So it was a lot of I don'ttrust you but I really want to.
I don't trust you, but I'dreally like to relax and know

(16:20):
that you have it.
So that was something that wasall unwinding in my love life.
At the same time I was making alot of money and having a lot
of success materially onlythrough my mind, so just with a
mental approach to manifestationonly, so not involving God

(16:42):
pretty much at all, which isvery weird to look at now.
But God was like in my lovelife only, but wasn't really in
my finances.
I wasn't working with Goddirectly over here.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
So I ended up making a bunch of money, getting
everything that I wanted.
Then I started contractingreally hard and I became
avoidant of what I built.
So it's like I have a huge,gorgeous house.
I don't want to furnish it, Ihave everything that I want, but

(17:17):
now I'm like afraid and I wantto hide my room.
So I had all of this weirdstuff started coming up.
It's like I didn't even want togo deeper into what I had built
and what I realized was I hadcreated all of this stuff.
So I manifested everything Likethere was no reason for me to

(17:40):
feel dissatisfied, but I wasdissatisfied and then that
created an existential crisiswhere it's like what is the
meaning of this?
Nothing can satiate me.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
So it was this I have it all, but I'm not satisfied.
This is totally fucked.
And so then that was a bigshake up, because now I'm
wrestling with God again.
What is the purpose of movingtowards anything at all
Wrestling, wrestling, wrestling,wrestling If this is not

(18:13):
satisfying?
What is the point?
Wrestling, wrestling, wrestling, wrestling, and this I'm in a
lot of mental health problemswith this.
Like this is, this is.
I'm again agonizing day afterday after day over this.
So basically, the whole reasonwhy this is the work now is

(18:38):
because what I've realized is,if I am not doing this in
concert with God, it's not worthdoing, because anything that is
built not in concert with Godwill not satisfy me, and if I
build a house on top ofquicksand, it's going to fall
apart.
And so I kept manifesting ontop of quicksand and I'm like,

(18:59):
okay, I can't do that anymore.
So the foundation has to be myrelationship with God, because
if I build something big, I haveto be able to maintain it, and
if I'm only doing that with thepower of my mind, I'm going to
cap out on my capacity, becauseI'm not recruiting any
supernatural support.

(19:20):
And so this has been one of thebig conversations that I'm
seeing with people is I'm tiredof manifesting, I'm exhausted.
When is this going to end?
I have to do this day after dayand you're not allowing
yourself to receive support.
That's why you're tired.
So it's very pervasive, becauseso many people are missing this

(19:45):
piece.
It's the God piece, it's the.
Are you allowing thissupernatural support into your
life or not?
Whatever verbiage you want touse, doesn't matter, but it's.
Are you allowing yourself to beheld and supported?
Are you allowing yourself toreceive the inspiration, the
guidance, the next steps, theclarity, the right moves?
And if not, you're not going tosteps.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
The clarity, the right moves and if not, you're
not going to feel good.
Yep, oh my gosh, that's such abeautiful thing that you all
that you explained.
I have so many questions justin response to all that.
But I couldn't agree with youmore about building on building
a foundation on quicksand,because I can relate to that a
lot.
I've had a lot of success and ithit me like last August where I

(20:30):
was like what the fuck do Ieven have to show for the money
that I've made, because I didn't.
So I talk a lot about money,but I did not have a healthy
relationship with money.
My patterns were shit.
I earned a dollar, I spent two.
It was not safe for me and itwas all on me.
I did not have a relationshipwith God.
I had like, yeah, my family andI my husband, my two boys, we'd
go to church every Sunday,posers kind of thing.

(20:52):
It means a lot to my husbandand I'm like we do this for him.
That's what my relationship was, and it was like I discovered
you in February, maybe, and,holy shit, my life has changed.
I'm more relaxed thanks to yourwork and y'all like she's got so

(21:12):
many programs that you cancheck out, but you gotta, let
alone get on her podcast and hernewsletter, but just building
my relationship with God, andyou really help people.
You know, know how to do that,and I've never been more relaxed
.
And now I'm seeing the fruitsof it where and I can't even say
the fruits of my labor,although it is inner work and
it's trusting, and that isforeign at first and you're like
no way, but the brain onlywants to do what's comfortable,

(21:33):
but it's absolutely amazing.
So then, the second part ofthis that I want to bring up is
what's so cool about you is I'venever heard someone explain it
the way you do before.
And what am I saying?
I'm saying where you're havingpeople look for their.
You're like go to God, god'sgot your stuff, like you always
say that and it's so brilliant.
I've only heard it from peoplewho have had massive success.

(21:54):
And then they're like, yeah, Ijust keep getting wealthier
because now I'm tapping into myspirituality.
You seem to be like reversingit, which is fucking rad.
Can you like talk about that?
Like reversing it, which isfucking rad.
Can you like talk about that,god?

Speaker 2 (22:06):
has your stuff.
Yes, I mean that's it.
God does have your stuff.
There's almost nothing else toit.
This is the frustrating part.
It's like there's an infinitesupply over here, but you have
to.
This is what we talk about inthe seven heavenly virtues.
It's on my YouTube if you wantto listen to that series.

(22:27):
But you have to reach in thisdirection.
You have to seek God.
So in the Bible, by the way, ifit's not already clear, I am
not Christian.
However, again with the, I havean interest in spirituality,
religion, ceremony, the faiths.
All of that stuff is interesting.
So I read ancient texts, Istudy all the ascended masters,

(22:51):
I geek out on that.
So in reading the Bible, whenit's turn your face to me, fix
your eyes on me, connect to me,face me, it's God saying just
hello, I'm over here, I haveyour stuff.
So there's all of these storiesover and over and over again in

(23:15):
the Bible.
It is like trying to drill itinto your mind that God is the
supplier, god is the one whowill fight your battles for you.
God is the source of all of thethings that you want, and so
it's like God will open thewindows of heaven.
God will, you know, make a way,god will make streams in the

(23:37):
desert.
It's like that is the thingthat you want to orient towards
and that you want to seek andthat you want to connect to, and
that you want to seek and thatyou want to connect to because
it's got all this stuff.
So the Abraham Hicks verbiage isthe vortex.
Yes, so if you like AbrahamHicks, if you like that model,
then the equivalent would beyour inner being is kind of like

(23:59):
your soul, the aspect of youthat is the intermediary between
you and God, your ego and God.
It's that middle point.
And then the vortex is theholding place of all your stuff.
So it's when you have peace ofmind, when you're feeling that
deep trust, when you're relaxing, and then you're able to allow

(24:20):
more of it in just through yourawareness of its existence,
mm-hmm.
So that's what I mean by orienttowards.
If you are aware of God andyou're looking at it and you're
reaching for it, then you'll beable to allow more of it in.
In the same way, if you justfocus on the vortex, if you
acknowledge its existence,you'll receive more from the

(24:42):
vortex you'll receive more fromthe vortex yep.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
So I understand that 100.
So I have a question.
And love to get your take onthis and maybe you can help the
listeners understand.
You know the universe, god, andthen spirit guides.
Can you, or or angels, can yougive us your definition of each?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Okay, so God is everything, that is.
That's like the infinite poolof creation.
So that's, if we think aboutthat as like a big, how you
would perceive heaven.
It's like that, that source,that plane, that dimension where

(25:23):
everything is coming from.
So literally everything all theinventions, iphones came from
there.
All this stuff is the idea ofmoney.
The idea of money wasoriginated in that place.
It was someone was inspired toooh, maybe we should have a
currency and a medium ofexchange, and boom, that's how

(25:44):
money came to be.
So it's the source of all ofthat stuff the provisions, the
love, the clarity, blah, blah,blah.
All of that comes from there.
The universe is what I woulddescribe as like the playing
field.
So when you decide to incarnateand you're like a micro creator

(26:05):
right, if God is the bigcreator of heaven and earth and
everything that exists, you havethat on a micro level.
So the universe is the mirrorthat you're playing with.
So you're just playing on thisplaying field and the universe
is a reflective mirror.
This is why I tell people Idon't like using the word

(26:27):
universe, and this is just apersonal preference thing.
I don't feel I can haveintimacy or receive love from
the universe.
I say the universe loves me.
I'm like well, the universe isphysics, it's a mirror, oh yeah.
It's just reflecting back to me.
So I don't feel like, oh, I'mloved by the universe.
It's like you're a mirror.
You don't care because itdoesn't.

(26:48):
That's the manifestation of badthings.
God is not sending you badthings, it's you're on the
playing field so you can receivebad things.
Right, they can be reflectedback to you.
That's the whole.
You get what you emit.
Yep, what you emit.

(27:09):
If you're orienting towards God,you're not going to feel bad
things or have a constantnegative reflection if you're
constantly connected to thatpure place.
But you can deviate, like I sayin the seven heavenly virtues.
It's like you could face God oryou could orient away and then
get into trouble.
All the trouble is everywherewhen you're looking away, which
is why you incarnated.

(27:29):
So, basically, god is the bigcreator, the thing that happened
before the Big Bang.
That's God.
The universe is the reflectiveplaying field that we're on.
It's the big mirror.
And spirit guides Okay, here'show I would describe spirit
guides.

(27:49):
It is you connecting to anaspect of God.
Let me use archetypes isactually a better way for me to
describe this.
Okay, so guides there's toomany bad habits that people can

(28:09):
have with the idea of guides.
There's too much variability.
You have people out here onTikTok who are like so I'm
meditating with demons.
Don't do that, don't do that,okay, just for safety reasons.
Thank me later, don't do thosetypes of things.
So, when it comes to spiritguides, it's like we could talk

(28:33):
about that in an energeticallyclean way, but there's too much
variability with other people'slanguage, so archetypes are a
better direction for us to takethis.
Archetypes are a betterdirection for us to take this.
I see it as archetypes are likea more niche focal point of God
, so it's more thematic.

(28:56):
No-transcript.
I wish that because I know thatwe're on a podcast right now.
That's why I'm pausing here,just because I wish that I could
show people the visual that Ihave.
So if you think about, okay,there's the top tier is God.
That's where everything exists,everything comes from.
Then, underneath that, if youlooked at a bracket, underneath,

(29:18):
that would be the differentcategories of inspiration and
frames of reference.
You with me?
Yep, so there's all thesedifferent categories.
I would describe those asarchetypes.
Okay, so that would be in thesame way.
In polytheistic religions, youdidn't just go to a monotheistic

(29:38):
God.
There wasn't just this singulargod, it was.
You prayed to the fertility.
Goddess, you prayed to themoney.
God, you prayed to Odin beforeyou were going into battle In
all of these differentpolytheistic religions.
It was broken down into themes,got it?

(29:59):
Yes, eventually it was like eh,we're all kind of talking about
the same thing, which is asingular God, even though, like
war is erupted over thatrevelation, we're all trying to
talk about the same thing.
And so a guide, if you like I'mloosely saying that if you had
a money guide that's coming froman archetypal theme, okay, so

(30:24):
money is a theme that comes fromGod.
This is why I continually go toGod is a catch-all, so let's
just go to God.
And if we want to play withthemes because it's like I have
a program that's all aboutarchetypes and storytelling we
can focus our energy on a cleanexperience of a theme that comes

(30:44):
from God.
So anytime you're hearing aboutangels, think about it as a
theme that's extended from God.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
I love that.
So it's just one category, it'sone block of energy where we
have collective consciousnessthat's projecting on that theme.
Aliens are the same.
Aliens are just we'reprojecting our ideas, we're
focusing in on what could be anaspect of God and then we're

(31:19):
projecting our humanunderstanding, our human ideas
and thoughts and collectiveconsciousness onto that aspect
of God.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Got it.
I've never heard anybodyexplain it like that before and
it helps.
I got to admit I got intoenergetics and not really
relationship with God.
It was more so like theuniverse and source because of
my own kind of like resistancethere.
And I got really into spiritguides and I'm grateful for it
because it's it's what like gaveme.
Like you know, I kept comingback to the beehive.

(31:50):
I'm like, oh my gosh, I saw mysign, so like this is amazing.
But then it kind of was liketripping me up a little bit
where I was like I didn't askfor that, I don't know, or I
asked for that and this wasn'tthe result and I now just work
with God and I've never thoughtabout it in themes and
archetypes, like you said.
I'm going to now use that, butwherever you know, whoever's

(32:12):
listening to this, whereveryou're at, it would be fun to
play around with like workingwith guides but then also
thinking about it in themes too.
I wish I had known that earlieron.
That would be really beneficialabout it in themes too.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I wish I had known that earlier on.
That would be really beneficial.
I was just going to say aboutsigns really quick.
It's like you never want signsto replace your guidance.
It's like you have the deepknowing.
So if you see a sign and thenyou're feeling disappointment,
well, that's actuallycommunication from God.
So this is another thing whereI'm constantly, constantly,

(32:43):
constantly harping on If itfeels good, it's coming from God
.
If it doesn't feel good, it'snot.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Well, and to piggyback off that, like I was
looking so you know how, likeyour inner knowing, your inner
guidance, like God, intuition,all of that and I was looking
for signs to validate something.
So it was gosh early on when Ipivoted from what I was doing
kind of like social selling, tothen my own thing and I was like

(33:13):
, is this going to be my biggestlaunch ever?
And I didn't believe it wasgoing to be my biggest launch
ever.
So I was asking for a sign ifit would be the biggest launch
ever.
And I got my sign and it wasnot the biggest launch ever and
I took that out Like I wasdisappointed, I felt let down
with my guides and then it waslike what I know now?

(33:34):
I didn't believe it.
I was literally asking anoutside source, you know, asking
something else, if it's goingto be, because I didn't believe
it was going to be.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, that's the type of it's not satiating.
So it's like it.
For the first five minutes youwould have been like oh hell,
yeah, Like now I'm going to havethe biggest launch ever.
So it gave you a temporaryboost of confidence and then you
go about your day and thenyou're like, well, was that real

(34:05):
, is that true?
Can I do it?
And so all the doubts creep inand that's why you disconnected
from God.
So that's why it's sointeresting, because the only
source of stability again that'smy view is God.
God has all your stuff, so thebiggest launch ever is over here
with God.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yes, I totally agree.
That was perfect.
Yes, so what advice would yougive to someone who is who's
just kind of starting out andtrying to be like, either repair
or build a relationship withGod?
And I'm going to use the wordenergetics I hope that's okay
with you, because I kind of seeit being similar, and if you
want to correct me on that, byall means do that.

(34:46):
But what my question was whatadvice would you give to someone
who's just beginning to explorethe world of energetics?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
And I now will add in and God, oh, a newbie man, so
my audience is pretty wellseasoned.
I don't think that I attract alot of new people.
Like, if you're in my world,it's like you're probably
already balls deep in energeticsand like I feel my work ends up
feeling like, ooh, this isrefreshing.

(35:13):
That's the most common feedbackthat I get is oh, this is
different, this is new, you know.
So for someone who's new, it'slike orient towards the people
that feel good to you.
Don't worry about needing aninstruction manual or where to

(35:36):
start.
It's just use the entrancepoint that feels safe to you.
Just do that.
So if you're really intoastrology and that's what you're
vibing with at the moment andyou're like, yeah, I get to go
down this rabbit hole ofastrology and all that stuff, do
that.

(35:56):
But I would just encouragepeople to explore their natural
interests with all of this.
And then, if you're actuallybecause it's going to evolve,
it's like you start withastrology and it's going to
evolve into something completelydifferent, more than likely.
So just trust the startingpoint and then let it go from

(36:18):
there.
Trust what you feel good aboutand if you stop feeling good
about a particular person, ditchit.
Like I'm a big believer incherry picking I talked about
this in Seven Heavenly Virtuesas well Like cherry, pick
whatever you want.
Just take the stuff that feelsgood to you and ditch the rest,

(36:40):
because, again, if it doesn'tfeel good, then there's some
discord in there and it's notcoming from God.
So that is my big rule.
If you feel safe good, you'regood, and then if you're wanting
to repair your relationshipwith God oh man, there's too,
there's too many contexts goingthrough my mind, so it's going

(37:02):
to depend.
Are you just curious?
Do you have religious trauma?
Do you have a lot of bad ideas?
Because really, what ends uphappening for people who are
repairing or renewing arelationship with God is your
desires.
Focusing on your desires isgoing to amplify all your family

(37:24):
of origin stuff.
So your trust in a higher powerof any kind is in direct
reflection of how much you trustyour family of origin.
Yep, whatever patterns werecultivated, there are what
you're going to project onto Godor a divine source of supply.

(37:44):
So whatever is supporting youand providing for you and
whatever that is a parentalrelationship.
So that's why so many peopleequate God to the father in
heaven.
It's the provider.
That's why it's called that.

(38:05):
Or when people refer to being achild of God, it's because
you're being provided for by God.
So that's why there's so much ofthat dynamic that is expressed
in language when we're talkingabout God.
And so for someone who's new,it's like understand that when

(38:25):
you're doing work with God, whatyou're really doing is
repairing your family of originstuff.
You're repairing yourattachment stuff.
You're repairing your abilityto trust and have faith.
So it's the degree of mommy anddaddy issues that you have if
you feel shamed or condemned, orwhatever it could be, by church

(38:48):
programming.
But your family of origin has ahuge, huge impact on it and so
understand for anyone who's new,it's like that's actually what
you're going to be working on,that's what it was for me.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
That was it, because the thing is like I know a ton
about energetics.
I've been studying that stuffsince last May and like, and
then when I, when I came acrossyour podcast, I was like, oh my,
my jaw hit the floor, likeyou're saying it perfectly right
now, where it resonated for me.
I was like I've never, ever,thought about it like that and
that was the work that Ipersonally really had to do.

(39:26):
Was, you know, healing my viewof God, because my view of God
was my upbringing and theparental guidance, like you had
just said, takes the role of God.
She has a podcast episode.
I will even link it where youbreak this down beautifully.
And guess what?
The first podcast episode Iever heard from you, and it's
not even like titled somethinglike god, it was like

(39:47):
manifestation or something doyou know which one it was?
oh yes, manifestation is yes,yes you like, literally break
this down and maybe you onlyspend five minutes on it, but it
was it.
It was it completely changedeverything for me.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
I'm always surprised like just what lands for people,
or I think I'm going to makethis like stupid simple.
I think that was that was myapproach with.
The manifestation is simpleconversation.
I was just like, let me breakthis down like I'm explaining it
to in layman terms.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's what I needed to hear.
It was perfect.
That's why I think I'm so drawnto your work too.
I mean, I love how advancedyour stuff is and I'm just like
I'm learning so much from you.
But I do think you are sogifted at breaking it down so
simply for people to understand.
And so let's kind of move intomoney for a little bit.
So I bought a program that shehad called Chill Money and it

(40:51):
was a short but potent, soamazing program.
You speak so clearly and thingsjust make a lot of sense for me
, at least with the way that yousaid.
But you helping me understandhow money works for my own brain
and how the biggest thing is tojust like relax.
I think it was called chillmoney.
It was called chill money andit's like chill out, and I was

(41:14):
like, oh my gosh, I had beenalready doing that since getting
a relationship with God,trusting.
I think when you trust younaturally relax, right.
But you just put it next levelin that program, which was
incredible, where I was likeit's literally relaxing, like
you can't say you trustsomething and then you're going
to go try to control everyaspect of it.
That's not trusting, you know,and how, like you cannot feel

(41:36):
two things at once.
I say that I've said that foryears with my own clients where
it's like you're telling meyou're bleeding but you're also
telling me the same thing, thatlike, or on the other side of
this, where it's like, how am Igoing to make this work?
It's just amazing.
So what?
I guess this kind of circlesback to what we were talking
about earlier, how you built aton of success and then it was
like it wasn't enjoyable becauseyou weren't doing it through

(41:58):
God.
Can you kind of touch on yourown experience with money, kind
of maybe you don't have to gofurther into detail on that but
how you now have healed withmoney and you seem to live a
very balanced life because ofprobably orienting to God.
But we're big moneymanifestation people over here
in my audience.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Money originally was the easiest thing for me.
So, like I said, love was that.
Oh my God, I got raked over thecoals in my love life, but when
it comes to money I was like,keep in mind, I had wicked
poverty, trauma.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
So I watched my mom go from upper middle class and
descend into extreme poverty,homelessness, like queen of
trailer.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
So horrifying decline and so, based on exposure to
that, then I had my dad's sideof the family, where there's
more money, so I got to see both.
I got to see extreme, likedevastating poverty, and then I
got to see what middle classlooked like.
And then I also had exposure toother people who were like

(43:12):
wealthy, wealthy, old moneywealthy and so I had a really
diverse palette of financialexperience from a young age.
I got to see all thesedifferent lifestyles and I just
had a lot of exposure and I waslike fuck, poverty.
I will never be poor, ever.
So I am not someone who willglorify deprivation, withholding

(43:38):
, not receiving money.
I think that it is your duty toget on good terms with money.
Yes, like that is so importantand it is a disservice to
yourself and everyone around youif you are not receiving money.
That is my attitude.
Like it is so important.

(43:58):
So, coming out of the gate whenI was, I was like hungry to work
because I couldn't trust any ofthe adults in my life.
Everyone's irresponsible.
I mean I came out of the wombjudging my parents because
they're addicts.
So I was like you shouldn't bedoing that at like a really
young age I was constantlyreflecting that.

(44:19):
So money was a big motivationfor me from a really young age.
And then, once I had the abilityto work, first it started as
like babysitting and the oddjobs that you're able to do when
you're really, really young.
But then once I could actuallyget employed, when I was 17, I
was like on it.

(44:41):
So money was something that Ialways had a really easy time
making because I was like hell,yeah, I can hustle and do this.
And then my first business Istarted when I was like 19.
Okay, like 19.

(45:05):
Okay.
And I came out of the gate.
I had one of my friends waslike 20 years older than me and
she kept saying hey, you know,you're an entrepreneur, right.
And I was like get out of herewith that, like I don't want all
that responsibility, no, I'mgood.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Like whatever.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Then I'm a big time hothead and so working in a
restaurant was not a good ideafor me.
And so working in a restaurantwas not a good idea for me Ended
up exploding, quitting in afiery rage, like I was
constantly quitting jobs.
I don't play well with othersin that capacity, so it just was
not a good environment for me.

(45:34):
And then I quit without a planand my friend was like, okay,
let's go ahead and get youstarted in business.
You're an entrepreneur.
She like kept insisting and I'myoung, I'm a baby at this point
, so I think she's out of hermind.
But then she took me to onenetworking event and this is

(45:57):
this is at a time where I'm likeI'll do whatever you want, just
put me to work.
This is at a time where I'mlike I'll do whatever you want,
just put me to work.
I'll work for like 20 bucks anhour, just I'll do whatever you
want.
You want me to clean out yourbasement?
I'll clean out your basement.
You want me to reorganizethings for you?
I'll do that.
You want me to do something onsocial media for you?
I'll do that.
Like whatever people wanted.

(46:18):
And so I went to one networkingevent and I closed so many
clients.
All my bills were paid, wow, inone night, wow, so that was
just.
I'm really good at in-personnetworking, so that was just
easy for me.
That was like the gateway toentrepreneurship for me.

(46:38):
And then I was self-employedpretty much the entire time.
I've only been employed like intotal for my adulthood three
years, maybe two, three years ofwork experience.
Everything else has beenself-employment.
That's amazing.
So it was just from the get-go.
It was me making my own moneybecause I was like I can hustle

(47:00):
and make things happen.
This was like early paradigmfor me.
I can make things happen wayfaster than like getting a job
and all that stuff.
So I just had more faith in myhustle than in an employer.
So again, like in terms ofwhere's my faith?
Yep, hustle, yep that's where Iput it.
Action, like I totally trustthat more.

(47:21):
My ability to like sell myskills, oh yeah, that's easy for
me to get behind.
So then came the time when Iwanted to transition into my
work, what it is now like theearly stages where I just wanted
to do readings.
That's really all I wanted todo.
And again, that was pretty easy.

(47:41):
And in the early days it waslike tarot readings, because I
didn't know how to build anaudience and showcase my skills,
and so tarot readings were howI could do both.
It gives the visual component.
So I got my start on YouTube.
Oh, wow, and that was myoriginal, and my channel blew up

(48:02):
because it's like I'm I'mexercising my skills, I'm
speaking, I'm giving messages,I'm doing my thing, I'm doing
what I'm good at.
And I had the most gorgeouscards on YouTube, because the
thing about other YouTubereaders is they all have ugly
ass cards.
And I was like I'm going to getthe most gorgeous decks, I'm

(48:25):
going to make them beautiful andlike have these really
elaborate spreads?
And so I was very committed toaesthetics.
Nice, yeah.
So that was one of the thingsthat got me in, and then that
evolved into a podcast and allthese other things.
So first it was just I'malready an entrepreneur.

(48:46):
This already comes naturally tome.
I already know how to makemoney.
Selling readings is no big deal, so I'm able to close a lot of
sales from that.
And then it turned into likepackages of reading.
Yes, like, okay, now we can dothis for like three months.
We do a reading every week,like in terms of the cold

(49:06):
readings like the energetic,healing side of things.
So that was part of it and thenit evolved into I stopped doing
my YouTube readings and then Istarted to get more into classes
, like group offers.
I had so much experience by thispoint that I was like, okay,

(49:28):
now I can teach at scale.
Now I have other things toshare, other processes that I
can take people through.
So there was just a naturalregression.
I was doing really well, likemy one-on-one work is still my
highest ticket work, but thatwas like my big moneymaker for

(49:53):
years.
The transition from one-on-onework to group work.
Only because my dream was tonot really take on more than
maybe one or two one-on-oneclients and only do groups.
So I wanted to make thetransition into group programs,

(50:13):
masterminds, evergreen offers.
I really wanted to make thattransition and that chapped my
ass.
That was where all my rejectionwounds started to come up.
So now all my one-on-oneclients are gone because I
phased them out.
I am now launching and I amterrified of being rejected

(50:39):
because remember, that's theoriginal thing I was working on
with God.
Right, nobody wants me, nobodyloves me, I'm not liked.
Oh, my God, excruciating.
So now that's jacking up mymoney?
Oh, because now I think I'munwanted, right, so I'm not

(50:59):
making sales.
So my business dried up and Ilost everything.
Whoa, for like five seconds,right, but it's like it was so
interestingly timed.
I had to move out of mybusiness dried up and I had to
cancel my lease.
I was going to renew my leaseon my big house business dried

(51:21):
up and then I was like, okay, Ihave to let it go, I have to
move out.
And then right after that, mybusiness skyrocketed.
Then it's like I was sellingstuff out, wow, so literally I
just wasn't listening to theguidance around the home, so I
lost everything and then.
And then it bounced back andeverything was fine.

(51:42):
And then I was like now I liveat the beach, it literally was
not a big deal, but it's scaryin the moment when it's like it
feels like it's life or death.
And so I had a lot ofturbulence after I had built
everything and then lost it, andso then I was like experiencing
this trauma of what if thathappens again.

(52:04):
So now I'm paranoid about money.
Now it's like a whole can ofworms of money issues erupted
after years of like killing itfinancially.
So and you'll hear this from alot of people who like I call
them like purebred entrepreneursdo shit like this all the time,

(52:26):
because some people are justlike if they're not working for
themselves, they can't breathe.
Like coming out the gate.
Because I was like this too Iwas the lemonade stand kid.
I'm hustling at school.
The school had to shut down mybusinesses Wow, when I was nine.

(52:46):
So I'm hustling on theplayground and I got shut down
Wow.
So I was.
I was always like this I wascoming home with all this money.
My dad is like huh, what, whatis?
Where are you getting thismoney?
He was like you can't be doingthis anymore.
So I was constant.

(53:07):
People are like telling me topump the brakes.
So I came out of the gate likethis, and entrepreneurs like the
purebred entrepreneurs Gary Veeis like this too, a lot of the
time.
It's like we're such big risktakers that it's like we'll dive
bomb into catastrophe, likejust because of the risk

(53:30):
tolerance that we have, and sothat was always something that I
was super comfortable with.
So my risk tolerance and willingto like spend and go big with
the investments and with all thestuff that I'm doing that was
always really easy for me.
But I also wasn't like, steadyin my money.

(53:52):
So the pendulum swung the otherway, where my desire for
steadiness, for consistency, forstability, for like then I
started thinking in terms of,okay, empire, lifetime, lifelong
money.
This is not.
I'm not as interested in theshort game or short-term

(54:14):
manifestations, I'm thinking interms of longevity.
So my perspective changed, thescope of money changed, my
business model changed, and sonow I'm in this season of, like
making money, staying connectedto God, allowing God to kind of

(54:35):
take over when it comes to mybusiness decisions and moving on
the guidance that I receive.
So that's the big.
The big shift has just beenprioritizing that and allowing
that to come in, do thereorganizing, do the managing
and then me stabilizing myself,steadying my body, regulating my

(54:59):
nervous system, like tending tothe physical side of things,
the human, all the ego.
So it's toggling these twothings of needing to deeply take
care of my physical self andthen also allowing God to call
the shots.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Right, wow, oh my gosh, I can relate to a lot of
what you've said, like just withthe, the like I remember having
my first 10k day and likethings were really picking up
and then like it all kind ofcrumbled and then I've been
trying and then, but I didn'tfind then like where you started
orienting with God, like Istill kept on action.

(55:35):
I'll just do more and more, butI was never healing that.
So that's really interesting,man relaxing, oh, I tried, did I
tried that?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Like don't get me wrong.
I was like, oh, just sell more.
Okay, burned myself out Like itwas.
It was absolutely awful.
And God's like, yeah, okay,anytime you want to come over
like you're more than welcome,I'm here if you ever want to hit
me up Totally.
But it you know in.
But in the Bible it's funnybecause God is continually

(56:07):
saying you're so stubborn, youpeople.
Man is stubborn and that's whatit is.
It's no, no, I'll forget God.
Let's focus on everything else.
Let's worship everything else.
Let's focus on action andoverexertion and doing and all
that stuff.
God can whatever, god can win.
And so it's like I'm guilty ofthat just as much as anyone else

(56:28):
.
So it's a lot for me to takelike this precious thing that
I've put years and years andyears of building into and then
being able to lay that on thealtar.
That is not easy, right.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
No.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
You know, that takes an extraordinary amount of trust
.
For me, it's like I recentlyhad to gut my child and
sacrifice one of my primarythings.
I have people ready to do thefall round and then I'm being
led to cancel it and rework itand let it be under construction
.
So it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Totally.
I can relate to that so muchbecause, also, I think I know
there's someone listening tothis is like, well, I've tried
orienting to God and nothing'shappening.
Yet when it's that was me too,like where it was, like I'm
lifting this up to him, but youweren't fully trusting.
And so my whole point to this,this comment that I'm bringing
up here, is, like our brainlikes to do what's familiar.

(57:25):
And when you like, in myjourney, when I'm just started
releasing the reins and there'dbe everything, my husband would
be like you know, the debt, thewhatever, and I had to like
slowly, be, like I'm not goingto buy into that story anymore,
I'm just going to trust, I'mgoing to release, surrender,
detach so many different wordsfor it, but it's that it's

(57:46):
taking the discipline, action oflike continuously doing it,
even though it feels so foreign,you just have to continuously
do it.
And then, all of a sudden,you're sitting in a completely
different reality because youfinally did turn to God.
It's wild, it's totally wild.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
So a lot of what I end up facilitating for people
is like, okay, take your trustissues to god.
Yes, like, talk to god aboutthat.
Like the very thing that you'relike I'm having a difficult
time.
Take that, I don't trust you.
Take that, I don't feel safe,take that like.

(58:21):
Those are the very things thatthe church programming for many
people has done a hugedisservice because you are not
taught to take your shit to God.
You're taught to take like thisperfection, I'm being a good
girl, I'm so well behaved, I'mdoing everything right.
It's still performance based.

(58:41):
Well behaved and doingeverything right it's still
performance based.
So even these religious peoplewho are saying, trust God with
all your heart, it's like, butyou're not getting your hands
dirty with repairing therelationship.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Yes, exactly Because in my experience, it's like like
being the little perfect girllike you said, or the only time
I'd go for God is like pleaseforgive me, I've been a bad girl
, okay.
So then it was like releasingthat fucking bullshit of like he
made me the way I am.
We work together on this.
Like this is why I'm here.
And like I'm not too much likeyou know my, you know whatever

(59:16):
I've been told, that's a big onefor me.
It was too much, too intense.
All these are the difficult one,all the things, and it's like
no, like I need to now startfucking loving myself for that
he fucking loves me, for that Idon't have to go to him and be
like this happened and this iswhat they said.
So like I've been bad again.
You know, I wasn't eventrusting myself.
God forbid.
I was trusting him.
You know what I mean.
Not even for what comesnaturally to me, and like those

(59:38):
aha moments.
First of all, it's liberatingas fuck to just finally release
it and be like and acceptyourself.
You know, self-love, self-imageis so huge and I just did an
episode about that where it'slike you work on that, you're
going to feel a lot better, andthen things are going to really
start flowing into you.
But yeah, I completely agreewith everything that you're

(59:58):
saying.
It's just, it's like you wantto go, I wish.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I knew it sooner.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Everything that you're saying it's just, it's
like you want to go.
I wish I knew it sooner, yeah,okay, I want to switch gears
into the like biggest questionI've been wanting to ask you.
So you have mentioned on socialmedia and as well as your
podcast, that you have basicallygiving yourself an energetic
boob job, like you've grown yourbreasts.
What did you say?
Five sizes?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
say five sizes?
Yeah, what?
How, tell me so?
Okay, let's go back to 2017,because that's really where this
started my mental health crisis.
I lost a dramatic amount ofweight.
Okay, like, if you look atvideos of me from 2020, I'm like
skeletal.
Wow, not not good.
Like my my body completelychanged.
I lost all of my weight.
I didn't have weight to loseand I lost like 30 pounds in a

(01:00:52):
month.
It was scary scary scary Cause.
I was stress vomiting.
I couldn't keep food down.
This, this, the mental healthissue was a literal crisis at
that point in my life, and so mybody was gone.
I went from.
I was ripped Like summer of2017, I'm working out five days

(01:01:15):
a week, like I'm in such greatshape, lost everything.
So now I'm like skin and bonesand let's see that.
That went on.
I had that body for a while andthen I started thinking about

(01:01:35):
Joe Dispenza and peopleshrinking their tumors.
Yes, okay, there's all thesepeople who are like doing these,
like medical emergency healings, like these people are
literally going to die andreversing all of this and
changing their bodies, and I waslike you have to be able to do

(01:01:56):
that for cosmetic reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Totally.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
So if you can drink something, something, you can
grow something too.
And so I was like I want hugeboobs, like that's what I love
it and so, and so this startedme on energetic body
modification.
Now another avenue might bejust manifest money for a boob

(01:02:23):
job, but I'm allergic tosilicone.
Okay, so the silicone that theyuse for like contacts or breast
implants or any I'm allergic tothat.
So it's like, okay, then youhave to decide, or I had to
decide do I want to change thebelief around my silicone
allergy or do I just want to trythis naturally and like, see

(01:02:45):
what energetics can do?
And so I was like I'm going todo this, like I'm going to grow
just a huge rack.
And so that was what got mestarted on that, and I knew,
because I all wanted to gainweight, I knew that that was
going to be a natural byproduct.
However, like the smoking gun,the reason why I knew it worked

(01:03:08):
is because, first of all, I hada very long-term sexual partner
in my life who has seen all mybodies.
He's seen me overweight, he'sseen me underweight, he's seen
me when I was like in the skinand bones era, like he's seen if
there's anyone on this planetwho knows my boobs the best?
It is him, and so I had.

(01:03:30):
I asked him.
I was like, give it to mestraight.
Like is this abnormal?
Are my boobs as big as theywere when I was at my heaviest?
And he was like no, this isunusual, what Unheard of?
So he and he'll give it to mestraight.
He's not trying to just tell mewhat I want to hear.
He's like brutally honest.
And so I was like okay, ifyou're telling me that I'm onto

(01:03:52):
something and this is crazy,then I'm trusting you.
Then there was the measurements.
My band size has not changed,only the cup size.
So I only grew inches around mybust, but not my band.
So it's not just general weightgain.
I knew that there would be someof that, but then it got to

(01:04:14):
this threshold where my boobsgrew beyond what they had ever
been before.
So at my heaviest I was at likea DDD what they had ever been
before.
So at my heaviest I was at likea DDD.
But then my boobs kept growingway beyond that and DD was the
max at my heaviest.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
So I'm not at my heaviest today.
I wasn't at my heaviest a yearago, but my boobs were the
biggest they had ever been.
Wow.
So it was the numbers wereshowing me that it was specific,
targeted boob growth.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
That's amazing.
So how can we do this?

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I mean you can do anything that Joe Dispenza has
with like the imagination, youvisualize, you tap into the
feelings.
All of that stuff that he hasworks for cosmetics, okay.
So it's like you can visualize,you can imagine, you can tell
stories.
There are people who justaffirm If you affirm over and

(01:05:14):
over and over, you justbrainwash yourself into body
modification.
You can do that.
Now my style, I like bodymodification as a practice.
So I tell people all the timeit's like my course on this is
called slut magic.
You don't have to take slutmagic, you can just brainwash
yourself into doing it.
You can like I have the biggestboobs ever.

(01:05:35):
I have the biggest boobs ever,like you could just do that.
Or I weigh 140 pounds.
I weigh 140 pounds Like youcould do that with anything.
But I like the pleasure-basedapproach.
So it's like my style is verymuch I like body modification.
I think it's fun, I enjoy it, Ienjoy the process, and so for

(01:06:00):
me it's more sexual in naturebecause I well, I like I'm
obviously wanting huge boobs forsexual gratification, like
that's the point.
So it's just it being a sexualpractice was very congruent with
my motivation, motivation, sothat my my style is not just.

(01:06:28):
I want to think as if it's.
I enjoy being in my body somuch that I'm motivated to do
body modification.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
I think that's a really important part, though I,
in my experience, of like tomake it fun and pleasure filled.
You have to.
If I'm understanding youcorrectly, it's like you have to
have fun with where you're atright now with your current
boobs and like are they growing?
Are they have?
You know?
It's more of a game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Yeah.
So there's a podcast episodethat I did called your dream
body is a mirage, and it's thisexact principle of there is no
destination, because you're inan arranged marriage with your
body.
It's not going anywhere Like,you get this one, so what are

(01:07:09):
you going to do with it?
And there's never a destinationbecause it's like, yeah, you
might get to a certain place,but then you have a pimple Boom,
there's a new desire.
You want clearer skin.
Or you get pregnant, and thenyou have a postpartum body, and
so now you have a whole new setof desires, a new vision for
your body.
Or you hit menopause Nowthere's a new vision for your

(01:07:32):
body.
There's this constant unfolding.
There's more and more desiresthat are body based, and so it's
never going to stop.
Based, and so it's never goingto stop.
And then there's I'm.
I uh had some stuff go on whereI couldn't do my normal workout
routine, and so I startedfeeling more skinny fat than

(01:07:54):
usual and I was like, eventhough I'm like skinny fat right
now, I still look amazing, allthings considered.
So I'm like hyping myself upabout the fact that, at this
level of activity, this is whatmy body looks like.
Is it ideal?
No, but that doesn't matter,because it's always evolving.
I love it, and so when you canlook at it as you're just

(01:08:17):
enjoying the experience of beingin your body now and you take
away the idea of a destinationand this is all for fun and
pleasure, then it makes itsustainable.
So my body modification, thereason why I got really good
results, is because I like doingit, and when you like doing
something, you'll do it more.
Yes, so that was the mainreason I love that so much.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
It's like when you make it fun and like that's what
we're all supposed to be hereto do, and for the longest time,
like for money related stuff.
I was not even making it funand I was trying to brainwash
myself and to like, oh, I'm sohappy and grateful.
You know, like the Bob Proctorstuff, I'm so happy and grateful
.
I make $50,000 a month, likeall that, and I'm like this is

(01:08:58):
not working.
And I finally tried anotherthing, which is now all in my
Wealth Code Academy, which is mysignature program I just rolled
out and it's pleasure-based,it's rooted in pleasure, it's
fun.
Life's too fucking short to betrying so hard.
Do you know what I mean?
Where it's like let's just havefun with it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
That's the God piece too.
So if you feel like you'retrying, trying, trying, trying,
trying, trying.
Nothing's working, nothing'sworking, it's, you put your
faith in action and performanceagain.
So you're not putting faith inGod like this supernatural
provider, you're putting yourfaith in your performance.
So that's where I'm seeing somany people get tired from that

(01:09:39):
exact behavior.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Totally, or it's like you're overwhelmed by it, all
right, and it's like, just liketo your point, you're not
relinquishing, control, trusting, letting God be like, hey, he's
like I'm ready when you are,Turn to me, face towards me.
Oh my gosh, it's amazing.
You are incredible.
I could talk to you forever,but I really want to respect
your time.
But I need people to know howthey can find you.

(01:10:03):
So tell us about, like, what'sgoing on.
Where can people find you?
Where should they go?
Number one everyone.
You need to go to our podcastand get on our newsletter, but
I'll hand it over to you if youwant to direct anyone
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Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
My website has everything, so it's just Rev
R-E-V Sydney Finncom, so thatthat has my newsletter.
That has all my social media,that all the goods are on there,
all my programs, and of course,I'm.
I'm all over the place.
So it's like I have my podcast,I have Instagram, I have TikTok

(01:10:37):
.
I'm not super active on TikTokat the moment, but had a
following on their YouTube.
I do YouTube stuff, I'meverywhere.
But the thing if you want tostay up to date with me
newsletter, that would be likethe well, it's a very beloved

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of them.
Letter, by the way, that ispeople's favorite thing, or one
of them, and so that YouTube.
But just go on my websitewhatever your preferred
consumption style is, sowherever you like consuming
things, you can find me there.
My podcast is Sunday messages.

(01:11:18):
Everywhere else is Rev SydneyFinn.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Perfect.
I feel like you're going to geta ton of fans just because
you're amazing.
Thank you so much for your time.
I so appreciate it and I justam so excited to just continue
to follow along and honestlylearn from you.
You've helped me in so manyways, so thank you.

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Thank you, I appreciate that.

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