March 21, 2025 • 54 mins
Sam Byler opens his heart in this profound conversation about the two pillars holding up the shed industry: family and relationships. Drawing from 35 years of marriage, Sam shares wisdom that transcends the personal and perfectly applies to business success: "Don't let kindness fool you into thinking it's weakness." Through stories of compromise, growth, and choosing peace over being right, listeners gain insights into how relationship principles directly impact business outcomes.
Looking ahead, Sam offers a sobering yet hopeful industry forecast about what he terms "the grind" - a challenging period he believes will extend through much of next year. Rather than viewing this negatively, he encourages industry professionals to "be content in the grind" and "embrace the suck," highlighting the resilience required in an industry affected by everything from weather to economic fluctuations.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn when discussing disaster response efforts in the Southeast, where hurricanes and flooding have created tremendous need. Sam reveals how the industry has mobilized to provide shelter solutions while balancing business opportunity with community service - delivering over 500 sheds to affected areas in just four months.
Most powerfully, Sam articulates the fundamental truth at the heart of the shed business: "You cannot do this business without relationships." Whether in manufacturing, hauling, or retail, success depends on building strong connections. This episode also reveals that the podcast series with Sam will conclude in August unless circumstances change, making this conversation even more valuable for listeners seeking his unique perspective.
For anyone in the shed industry facing challenges in business relationships or wondering how to navigate uncertain times ahead, this episode provides both practical guidance and heartfelt encouragement from someone who has mastered the art of balancing personal values with professional success.
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Sambassador (00:08):
Welcome back to part two of a two-part episode.
Be sure to go back and listento part one.
You might've missed something.
Hope you enjoy the conversationtoday.
Shed Geek (00:20):
I'm curious, I want to ask you a question.
Uh, while we're talking aboutfamily, marriage and all of
these things in the in theindustry, like, and how they
relate to the industry, what'syou and what's you and Miss
Karen story?
You know I consider her meekand quiet and, uh, just
(00:51):
supportive and, um, you knowyou're like me, you're loud and
proud and out here just goingeverywhere a hundred mile an
hour and you know getting stuffdone and knocking things down.
She just seems like the kindest.
You know getting stuff done andknocking things down.
Sambassador (01:09):
She just seems like the kindest you know and best
supporter for you I would, Iwould say the single best.
(01:31):
I'll get into the story alittle bit because people need
to know it a little bit.
Comment that I can leave aboutmy wife is don't let her
kindness fool you into thinkingit's weakness and I even dare
say the proper way, if I canfigure out how to say this don't
think it's meekness.
She is definitely 100% theclosest thing to my mama as I've
(01:52):
ever known, which is kind ofcrazy, because they say sons
marry their moms and daughtersmarry their dads.
you know, I don't know if you'veever heard that or not, but I
was told that yeah, yeah, a longtime ago, and my and my simple
answer to that would have beenat 18 years old.
That and I've said this foryears, even after my, even after
(02:13):
being married my mama died.
Um, basically six months afterwe got married, I lost my mom
and, but she had had healthproblems for years already.
My wife never seen my mom inher 100% true form.
But my wife will tell you in aheartbeat that there was not a
(02:34):
more loving, more sweet, moregentle soul on earth than my
mama, and all her sisters willtell you that Everybody that
knew Leah Byler would say thatshe never had a bad word for
anybody.
She never said anything badabout anybody, and the closest
thing that I found on this earthto my mom is my wife.
(02:57):
Now, that does not mean at allthat they cannot hold their own,
because they can.
My mama held her own with mydaddy many a time, um, when at
the still waters run deep and,be you know, speak soft and
carry a big stick.
That all fits my wife to a team.
I love her, love her dearly forit.
(03:18):
We I mean, lord, I can't eventhink where I'd be today with I
wouldn't.
I wouldn't be here today if itwasn't for my wife, um, we
weren't quite as young as y'allwere when we started, um, when
we started dating.
But we were young, um, and youknow, we dated for two years and
I got married six weeks after Iturned 19.
(03:41):
Um, so I was, you know, marriedyoung, grew up, basically grew
up together.
Both of us did.
She came from a completedifferent background than I was
used to and, you know, same forme to her, but we, we learned
how to do life together.
We learned, we learned how todeal with humans, with each
(04:06):
other.
And you know we still have ourdays.
You know it's still a work inprogress.
You know it's not like, oh man,I can't wait till I turn 50
years old and I just love mywife every day, just because of
who she is.
You know, it's no.
We were talking about it theother day, about how it still
takes a lot of work to make itwork.
(04:28):
And you know we still mess up,we still get it wrong some days,
but there is nobody on the faceof the earth that I'd rather do
life with.
And you know, 35 years comingup in November and we were
together for two years beforethat.
So, 37 years, you know it's.
It's just.
It seems crazy, it doesn't evenseem possible.
Shed Geek (04:51):
Congrats, man.
That's a, that's a, it's agreat, it's a, it's a great
thing.
And, yeah, man, I just I don'tknow Definitely thankful.
You know, we too have had tosee lots of different versions
of ourselves and learn how todeal with people, and the word
(05:11):
that I usually give at leastyeah, in my opinion, the word
that I like to give peoplewhenever they're asking about
relationship advice and I don'tnecessarily get asked all the
time, but when I do, I like totell them compromise.
Compromise is one of thebiggest words.
(05:32):
You know, in the 25 years thatwe've been together, 29 years
that we've been together overall, I have learned that compromise
is definitely one of the keysto relationship, in my opinion,
and what I mean by that is youknow, you're two different
people and you're two differentversions of yourself over
(05:56):
different decades.
You're 20s, you're 30s, you're40s.
You're just, you're different.
You grow into different peopleand different roles, and one.
You have to make a steadyeffort to come back together.
You know not, it doesn't happenonce and you're done.
You've got to continue to makethe effort every day.
But compromise too.
(06:18):
There's times that we used toget into an argument on a Friday
night, and I might be right onthis one and I just thought, man
, I gotta.
I got to hold on to it.
I don't know if you guys haveever seen Nate Nate Bergazzi.
He's one of my favoritecomedians.
He's a clean comedian out of uh, out of Nashville, and uh he
talks about.
It's one of my favorite things.
(06:40):
He talks about one fell swoop.
You know he said my wife usedthe term one fell swoop one time
and I couldn't understand whyshe used it.
He never uses it, but it's likeshe heard the word.
Now, all of a sudden, she'susing it.
Every time you turn around, I'mone fell swooping.
Everywhere we go, he says here'swhat we're going to do, because
you know they're, they got allthese different, they got all
these different family events Igot to go to because of divorces
(07:02):
and stuff for Christmas.
And she says we're going to gohere, do this, do that, whatever
we're going to do it all in onefell swoop.
And he said I don't.
I don't think it means what youthink.
It means that's not one fellswoop, it would be all at once.
And we're talking about goinghere, coming back, going here,
coming back.
And he said she just felt right,and they went to bed angry at
(07:23):
each other and he said well, Ican't just have you out here One
fell swooping saying it thewrong way to everybody.
You got my last name.
You know he's hilarious if youwatch him.
But he says he said you know wedon't apologize as married
couples who have been togetherfor a long time.
(07:43):
There's two things that happenif you ever notice.
And his version was.
He said you know, she just cameover and gave me a kiss before
I went to bed.
I just kind of took that as,like the argument's over.
You know it's time to go to bed.
We should go to bed and just bedone with it.
And he said but I really feltlike I had this one in the bag.
So he said I walked in the roomand said well, it's just not
what it means.
Sambassador (08:02):
Oh boy.
Shed Geek (08:04):
I thought you idiot.
You know, he laughed, of course, and made a joke and he said
you know, my marriage almostended in one fell swoop, you
know.
Sambassador (08:12):
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Shed Geek (09:59):
I used to.
If I felt about my one fellswoop argument, I would drive
home like Nate would, and it wasFriday night and the next thing
I know we're arguing all theway into Sunday and I think what
I've learned now and timecreates wisdom, I guess, whether
we want it to or not, becausethere's times now that even if
I'm right on something, I willchoose peace over being right,
(10:22):
and I will go to her and I willsay I don't want to argue all
weekend whether I'm right orwhether I'm wrong.
I value this relationship and Ilove you more than this
argument and I love this weekendwe have together more than this
argument.
So, whether I'm right orwhether I'm wrong, I'm sorry and
I want to have a good weekendwith you because I don't want to
argue and that's changedeverything.
(10:45):
I mean that changes so much.
There's a maturing there that'sso necessary.
Back in the day I would havebeen like no no.
I'm right on this.
I'm not giving up, I'm notgiving my position away on this.
Sambassador (10:59):
And when you learn that lesson.
Shed Geek (11:00):
It's important.
Sambassador (11:01):
I learned a long time ago that if I just wait,
I'll be right later, and it'simportant.
I learned a long time ago thatif I just wait, I'll be right
later, and it'll all be allright anyway.
Shed Geek (11:09):
Just let it play out right.
Yeah, just let it play out andyou never have to look at her
and say, was I right, you'lljust know.
Sambassador (11:18):
Disclaimer that's the funniest joke tonight.
Yet I'm never right Sometimesif I just let it go and wait six
, six months I'll find out.
Shed Geek (11:28):
She's right anyway, you know, yeah, my favorite
thing is my wife's ability tosee things that I don't see,
when I'm arrogant enough tothink that I've got the answers
and got things figured out.
And uh, you know, she, she seesthings that I I'm not able to.
I think that's why it takes ateam effort.
I think people will identifywith this podcast who work in
(11:50):
our industry, because you haveto work together to figure it
out, don't you?
Whether you're in manufacturing, whether you're in hauling,
whether you're in sales,especially those who have to
travel, you know, for extendedperiods of time.
Um, it takes real effort tomake to make a relationship work
(12:13):
, doesn't?
Sambassador (12:14):
it, yeah, and you cannot do this business without
relationships, yeah.
So, um, if you're, if you're abig enough company to where you
don't have to have B2Brelationships, you have to have
E2E relationships.
Everyone to everyone, oh yeah,everyone.
(12:37):
To everyone, employer toemployee, you could say well,
I'm not going to have to haverelationships with my rent done,
I'm not going to have to haverelationships with my rent done,
I'm not going to have to haverelationships with my haulers,
I'm not going to have to haverelationships with a
manufacturer, because I'm justgoing to do it all in-house
myself.
Well, you're going to have tobuild relationships with those
people because you're mercy.
(13:00):
Can you imagine?
You get up in the morning, youbuild your own shed, you sell
your own shed, you haul your ownshed, you do your own rent, you
pick it back up you sell itagain.
Shed Geek (13:10):
Yeah, you got to have the relationships.
You got to have relationships.
What do you see, Sam?
You've been in and around theindustry for a long time
Anything particular in now,March of 2025, that creeps up on
(13:32):
your radar directions that theindustry's going some kind of
like amazing insight.
Do you think it's just a statusquo?
Do you think there's a lot ofchange happening or getting
ready to happen?
That's one of the biggestquestions I get.
Probably the most commonquestion I get from one place to
the next is you know what areyou seeing out there?
(13:52):
What does your crystal ballkind of tell you?
What does it look like?
The direction is for thingsgoing?
You have any like magicalinsight tonight, Anything that's
just tickling your brain therefor the direction of the
industry versus what it was,maybe the next five years, what
we should expect?
Sambassador (14:13):
So, you know, a couple of years ago we threw
around the word collaborationand then we threw around what
was that word?
It's almost like collaboratebut, um, like acquisitions or
additions.
There you go Acquisition iswhat I was looking for.
So, I've kind of every year Ikind of try to come up with what
(14:36):
I see or whatever, and I'mgoing to tell you this is going
to sound bad, and I don't meanit as a bad thing, I'm just
saying this is what I see and Ithink it's a good thing.
But the grind, um, I see a grindcoming that goes through
probably most of next year, evenwhen some, some of us are just
(14:58):
gonna have to buckle down and,you know, just accept that it's
gonna get.
It might get a little, it mightget a little tough, it might
get a little hard.
I'm not saying it from anegative point of view
whatsoever, but just be willingto be content in the grind.
Embrace the suck I don't knowif you've ever heard that or not
(15:18):
, but it's a little hard for mebecause I'm constantly wanting
to move.
I think is the word.
You know, I'm not cool withjust holding still and I kind of
pick up on that a little bitfrom just different areas of it,
not just in manufacturing, notjust in hauling, not just in
(15:40):
rent to own.
But I kind of gather thateverybody's just a little bit in
a like I wish the bash was nextweek instead of in October.
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Sambassador (17:09):
I want to get everybody together and throw a
big party, except I don't wantit just for haulers, I want it
for haulers, rent-to-ownmanufacturing, sales guys.
I just feel like everybody'sstuck in a grind a little bit
and some of these guys listen,some of these guys that are
influencing me right now havehad crazy good January and
(17:29):
February already.
The Southeast, especiallybecause it's I don't care what
they say, I don't care if theyblame it on marketing or sales
or whatever.
Helene took out so muchinfrastructure in every aspect
of living, we know, includingstorage and sheds and tiny
(17:52):
houses, that to replace all ofthat back is an industry in
itself right now.
And I'm not talking about justWestern North Carolina, I'm
talking about Florida, Georgia,South Carolina, North Carolina,
Tennessee, Virginia, you know,up into Kentucky, and now we've
had more flooding and more, youknow, buildings destroyed
(18:16):
through the flooding, again inWest Virginia and Kentucky, some
down into Tennessee.
Um, I don't know if you've beenkeeping up with the news or not
, but South Carolina even we had178 wildfires.
It's insane and you knowthrough that there's more
(18:37):
destruction, you know, I don'tknow.
So, yeah, I guess I'm kind ofjust stuck there.
I'm like just be happy, behappy in this up for the time
being because, and you know, forme personally, I'm man, I don't
know, I don't know where I'mheaded in the next six months.
I would have said, you know, Iwould have said, I'll easily
(19:03):
still be involved in the shedindustry from the inside, which
is what I call us, we'reinsiders.
Um, and now I'm, I'm looking atdecisions that have to be made
as to still being in, you know,involved in the shed industry,
but not as an insider.
And it's like, what does thateven look like?
Shed Geek (19:26):
but not as an insider and it's like what does that
even look like?
Well, you know, the comfort issomething that we all want.
We want good years, the greatyears, and things are going
good, and things are coming easy.
But that's not reality.
That's not.
That's not for most folks.
That's not typically the case.
Everything is not alwayssunshine and bright skies and
(19:51):
things like that.
There's a whole.
My family certainly didn't feelthat way growing up and I think
we've been blessed to have itbetter than our family.
Our family, you know, and, andyou know there's still been
(20:11):
roads of despair, dire straits,depression, anxiety, you know,
trouble financially, spiritually, emotionally, physically.
I mean there there's been allof these, these things, and I
feel like I've had it betterthan my folks, who had it better
than their folks.
So, I agree with you andcomfort is something that we all
(20:35):
crave, but I'm not sure, ifcomfort's what we're promised.
I mean, I think you still got toget up and you got to put your
work boots on and you got to goto work, no matter what you're
doing, if you're sitting at acomputer working away, or if
you're if you're in a truck, orif you're swinging a hammer,
whatever it is you're doing.
You know, I think we're stillsupposed to do that with, with
(20:59):
everything that we have, and Ithink that if you're following
the Lord's path that you'resupposed to be on, to be on, I
think that's uh, uh, that'sgoing to be evident for you.
You're going to know, or you'regoing to know, that you're not
doing it.
One or the other, um, and youknow, he, the, the, the.
The really unique thing is hedoes put us in.
Uh, you know, I I still feelcalled to be in this industry.
(21:20):
You know, there's still manythings in my life that are, you
know, equally as passionateabout and something that me and
you both are similar on, andthat's prison ministry.
Hebrews 13, 3,.
Be with those in prison asthough you're in prison yourself
, and even the downtrodden thosethat are without.
You know, I got a podcastcoming up you're going to love.
(21:42):
It's kind of going to remind mea lot of this podcast with me
and you.
Today I went to my buddy, joeIgnis, out of Knoxville.
He's one of our advertisers onour newsletter.
Go check it out, buy his stuff,all that good stuff.
Me and Joe have been friendsfor some time.
He's been on the podcastseveral times.
Some of his employees have aswell Real good sales guy and all
(22:04):
this.
He had an event down inKnoxville and I went to it and I
got a chance to hear sometestimonies there that just blew
my socks off and we're going tohave a gal on the podcast here
before too long named Kelly, onthe Wednesday show and her
testimony is just tremendous.
And I said you know, I don'tknow if my viewers will
(22:25):
appreciate that we're not onhere just talking about sheds
and maybe the cosmetics of thesheds, the manufacturing and
structural integrity of thesheds, the aesthetics and the
challenges of delivery andmanufacturing and sales and
marketing.
It's really just her story and Ihaven't really talked about
this yet her story and I haven'treally talked about this yet
(22:47):
and I'm gonna I'll drop a littlesmall nuclear bomb here, but
you know even what you've beendoing out in western North
Carolina and being inspired by,uh, the giving mentality that is
Sam Byler, always say you gotthe biggest heart out of anybody
that I that I know.
And, um, this gal has a called.
Oh, I'll maybe have to tell youon that show, the Widowed
(23:12):
Something or Another.
And that's kind of part of herstory and one of the reasons I
want to have her on here is Iwant to.
I feel pretty strong about this, but I want to check.
But I really feel like we'vebeen looking for a.
There's plenty of opportunity,Sam.
There's just what you guys aredoing out there in North
(23:34):
Carolina.
There's more opportunity thanthat you can do in a lifetime.
So not dismissing what you'redoing by any means, but I felt
really, really called andobligated to hear her story
further and to maybe evenconsider some kind of official
campaign around her nonprofitand the story that she's got in
(23:57):
helping people.
I think I've told you this.
We're trying to write a book, achildren's book.
I want to take half of thoseproceeds and donate it towards
something and there's plenty ofthings in the shed, industry and
associated with to give.
But I felt so moved by her story.
You know, I just you know, when.
(24:18):
You know, I don't know how toexplain it, but I want to talk
with her farther and see if wecan watch some kind of like
official campaign around, likeher, her mission work and what
she's trying to do for orphansand widows and things like that.
It just it was amazing.
But you said something that Iwant to touch on and then I'll
shut up because it's easy for meto chat.
(24:39):
You said, who knows, even insix months, and I kind of wanted
to talk about, you know, eventhe podcast, even the fun day
Fridays that Sam is doing, andwhat that will look like.
You've been great man, justcoming on and doing the podcast,
and one of my favorite thingsis that you're still the most
listened to podcast I've everhad in four years.
(25:01):
And I thought, man, surelypeople want to hear from the guy
because they certainly listento him, and this has just been
fun.
We've already been at this.
I don't know if you realizethis, but we've been at this
seven months.
Sambassador (25:13):
Yeah, so I was, so I was the launch and uh we kind
of talked about recordings wewere recording two months before
that already.
Shed Geek (25:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's it.
The time comes quick, uh, butyou know, ask, asking people to
continue to, to be on andprovide content at that level.
That's a, that's a challenge,you know, uh to, to ask you guys
to do that, but it does mean alot that you do.
But we're talking about maybewinding it down near the end of
(25:44):
August, uh, unless, unless Godchanges something or put some
kind of like, stay in the middleof that.
Um, so I just want to encouragepeople, first and foremost.
If you want to get an interviewwith Sam Byler, it's time to do
it, cause we've got about sixmonths left, uh, for him to join
us here and call us, sit down,sit down with us, call us info
(26:07):
at shed geek.
com.
You got Sam's number.
Give him a call, tell him hey,let's sit down and do an
interview, tell our story, Uh,um, but we'll see where it goes
and we'll see where Sam goes.
There's no telling right in sixmonths when it holds.
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Sambassador (28:06):
Oh man, there's so much stuff out there right now.
I don't know.
I used to always so.
I've always done storm responsework, love doing it, but it's
always been like a.
It's not even a secondary thing, it's not even third, it's more
(28:27):
fourth or fifth or sixth on thelist of what I do, and this
time around the momentum we'vebuilt off of this one and the
people that you know, all thelittle bobbling heads, that and
I don't mean that derogatorily,I'm just saying all the voices
(28:49):
that are speaking up that youknow I you know, I've got guys
telling me I could solve, Icould solve the homeless problem
in the us.
And I'm like all I hear is a lotof work, a lot of work, and
they're like they, with themomentum you have and the
connections you have, if anybodycould do it, you could do it.
(29:09):
And you're cut out to do it.
It's what you're called to do.
And I'm like man, I don't knowwho you guys are talking to, but
it ain't the same dude I'mtalking to.
And then you sit back andyou're like what if they're
right?
What if that's something you'resupposed to be doing?
What if it's something that youshould be looking into?
(29:30):
That your calling isn't?
You know, I mean, when you stopand think about it, it wouldn't
be that hard to do.
It's like you know, we haveliterally in less than five
months actually considering thefact we didn't really start
until the first of November,November, December, January,
(29:50):
February, you know, four monthsflat we put 533 sheds on the
ground and we've probably got 50sitting there right now that
are ready for delivery.
I need more haulers and I'vegot another commitment to I
don't know.
Some of these guys arecommitted to still sending me
(30:12):
some more.
We'll probably get to 600fairly easy.
And you know, and when youstart taking those numbers and
you start thinking about okay,so what if we had 10, 12, 15
regional hubs, you know to where?
The sheds from Maine wouldn'tcome to here anymore, they would
(30:34):
go into Philly or into, youknow, somewhere around New York
City or you know wherever it'sat.
And all of a sudden you startdoing 10 here and you start
doing 10 over there and youstart doing, and it's like wow,
you can make a really bigdifference.
So, I don't know, I don't knowwhere we're going.
Um, I do like the idea thatwe're both cool with the idea
(30:56):
that we can wrap this up at theend of August.
Um, and then, if all of asudden, something changes, we're
both good with that too.
Yeah, um, I like it.
I'm good with that too.
Yeah, um, I like it, I'm goodwith that either way.
Um, I could, you know,currently, right now, I could
see the end of august wrappingup and being good with it.
Um, if all of a sudden,everybody's like, hey, wait a
(31:16):
minute, we want to hear morefrom him, and they're willing to
do the interviews.
I'll be honest, I love doingthem.
I absolutely love doing thepodcast, enjoy every minute of
it, hearing everybody's storiesand stuff.
I do not enjoy having to thumpon people to try to get them to
do an interview.
Um, I've got four or fivehaulers right now that will
(31:38):
never probably listen to this,but if they do, um that have
told me they'll do interviewsbut they won't give you the time
to do them and it's like youknow what, just step up and do
one and everybody that does them, you know, when they're done,
they're like oh, that was cool,you actually enjoyed doing it.
And there's a couple of themthat if we're going to, you know
, if I am going to wrap up atthe end of August, I got to get
(32:00):
a couple of follow ups done andmake sure we get those in,
because I want to come back andsay, hey, you know, here we are
a year later.
Is it doing what you said itwas going to do?
Have you landed where youwanted to land?
What's it look like?
You know, uh, definitely wantto follow up on some of those,
but the fact that you and I canbe cool with it, hey, you know
(32:21):
what we can wrap this up.
If something crazy happens,we'll keep going.
Or you know, yeah, maybe I'mgoing to do If something crazy
happens, we'll keep going.
Or you know, maybe I come inand do one every six months,
maybe I come in and do one everysix weeks, or whatever that
looks like.
I love it.
I'm perfectly fine with that.
Shed Geek (32:36):
We've had a hit or miss response.
You know they say fear ofpublic speaking is actually the
fifth highest fear among mostpeople.
And I tell people, whetheryou're afraid of speaking or not
, you do it every day now anyway, and if you're a salesperson,
(32:57):
you do it as a career.
So, you know, fear of speakingis good in the sense that you're
afraid to speak in most casesbecause you want your message to
be received.
And I've always heard, ifyou're preparing for a speech
and you're nervous, it means youhaven't prepared enough.
But you know we take a differentapproach here at the podcast.
(33:19):
We're blue jeans and t-shirtsand work boots.
You know, like we haven'torganized this in such a way yet
and maybe we will, maybe wewon't, I don't know to where.
You know, uh, it's, it'sextremely white collar and
without all my ums.
We don't, we don't edit all ofthose out.
(33:39):
I used to think, oh, sounds sostupid all these ums.
I said I'm 154 times my firstpodcast and I'm like you know
what, even if we edit it out, ifsomeone met me, I'm going to
say um 154 times in an hour andthat's how I sound anyway.
And I learned to sort of justbe okay with that.
But I admit, even whenever Iget asked to speak at an event,
(34:03):
you know I always tell peoplethere's the nerves, are there
because of the accountability,but honestly, we're telling
people stories is the way I lookat it.
You know we can talk aboutthings that you talk about
sitting around a, a shed haulertable at a at a barbecue or
sitting on a set on a Pine Hilltrailer at the at the shed expo.
Sambassador (34:25):
You know what I?
Shed Geek (34:26):
mean, those are the conversations we're looking to
get.
You know and do something that,that, that that promotes the
general, where general welfareof the industry as a whole,
education through entertainment,have fun, laugh, joke, don't
take yourself so serious, get onhere and add content and value.
(34:46):
And I think, Sam, you operateas an excellent host and, yeah,
if God changes that platform andsays, hey, let's get more.
But we've just had a mixture.
When we first started thepodcast, I got a ton of people
emailing me saying, hey, I'dlike to be on, I'd like to be on
.
We still get a fair share ofthat, but I have found that, yes
(35:10):
, typically you got to reach outto folks if I'm going on a trip
or if I'm doing this or that.
I think some folks have told methis Well, I'm not really
nobody, I don't got nothing tosay and I'm like, oh, I'm
excited about that Becausethat's probably going to be the
best podcast.
You know when they get lost inthe moment of just chatting and
(35:31):
they realize wait a minute, thisisn't a.
You know it's a professionalinterview.
But this isn't like we're notdressing this up.
I'm not asking you a bunch ofquestions.
I don't expect you to preloadyour, your thoughts, and you
know what I'm saying.
Like we come across, you know,super, super, uh, crisp and
clean on every little detail.
We're humans and we're humanshere on the podcast.
(35:53):
So, we, we will edit outsomething if you really feel
like it's something you didn'twant to say, or you or you felt
like you sounded stupid onsomething.
I sound stupid all the time, sothere'd be a lot of editing for
me I'm saying here if I'd everstart editing, I wouldn't have
any episodes left.
Sambassador (36:12):
so sorry, you learned to let it roll.
Um, I learned that a long timeago when we started doing
recordings with music andrecordings with some of the
prison ministry stuff we weredoing.
I talk funny, it's just a given, and I've just got to where you
know what?
I just embrace it.
Nobody can talk like Sam Byler.
(36:32):
That means nobody can mimic him, so there should never be any
issues there.
It is what it is.
You just learn to deal with it.
It's fine so yeah, I'm good,it's going to be exciting to see
what happens.
Um, we're actually talkingabout maybe exploring, you know,
(36:53):
going back to what I hadoriginally planned on doing four
years ago.
And you know I have a youtubechannel and four years ago we
had it all set up and we wereready to roll with that thing
and see where it goes.
And you know, I got completelysidetracked and went way off
another direction, which wasfine, totally fine.
(37:15):
But now I got guys saying, hey,you really need to get back,
you know, and if you're going tokeep doing what you're doing,
you know we got to start doingthis and that.
And I'm like I don't know.
There again, I'm the last guythat should have a YouTube
channel.
Shed Geek (37:30):
No, you're wrong.
You're definitely the guy thatwould be excellent to just
follow around.
Sambassador (37:39):
Well, we would have had an episode today that I
promise you would have made themLouisiana boys look just silly,
because when you gotscrewdrivers flying around in
circles and somebody's trying tostop them, don't even get me
started.
Shed Geek (37:57):
All the more reason why it would work really well
and I would definitely watch it.
No, I think it would be greatand more than anything, you know
, I'm just I don't know I'mgrateful for the friendship that
we've had.
You know, the different timesthat our careers have kind of
connected on different pointsand things like that.
I've always said that you'reone of the first people I was
(38:20):
drawn to.
I was in the industry for quitea while before I knew who you
were, so it wasn't really untilFacebook and your Facebook lives
and things like that where Ireally got to know you.
And then there was that wholetime that I reached out to you
and you ignored me for two years.
Sambassador (38:37):
I think that was the other Sam Baller.
Shed Geek (38:39):
It probably was.
It probably was.
Sambassador (38:44):
I got a big day.
Tomorrow I have a fullyfinished 18 by 40 cabin.
That's going to require two tothree mills to get it delivered
Way back in the sticks and downa dirt lane with all the rain
we've had lately.
It's gonna be a mess, but itneeds a bigger mule.
Shed Geek (39:01):
Well, when you talk, cardinal listens.
And you asked for it, and youasked for it.
With its diesel-powered69-horse engine and capacity to
move 40,000-pound sheds, theMule 9069 is ready to turn your
big days into just another dayin the good life.
Sambassador (39:25):
Ah, that's right, You're talking about the one
they had up in Michigan at theShed Show, that monster meal man
.
That thing was awesome.
Shed Geek (39:34):
That's right.
It's the one you've seen at all, the Shed Holler barbecues.
Man, yeah, there's nothing likea little diesel donkey to make
my day go so much better, but Igenuinely enjoy talking to you
every chance we get and I alwaysfeel like it's a conversation
that feeds me and I really likethat we could sit here and talk
(39:56):
on this podcast today and kindof brag on our wives and family
and things like that and uh nothave to talk about the uh.
maybe people want to hear aboutthe nuance of sales and
marketing and hauling andbuilding and manufacturing and
all this and you know, whatmaybe somebody just wanted to
hear that that that you knowthere's a story about family,
(40:18):
because that's ultimately whatthis is all for.
I work for my family.
Sambassador (40:23):
And, my goodness, if the two of us can make it
work, anybody out there can makeit work.
Maybe somebody need to hear,just to know that it's worth
sticking it out.
And then they're not the onlydummies out there trying to get
through it.
Because I promise you, ifShannon Latham and Sam Byler can
figure out how to make thewhole marriage thing work
happily, then there's hope foreverybody.
Shed Geek (40:45):
I'll tell you what Was it?
Albert Einstein that gotdivorced and somebody told me
they said if the smartest guy onearth can't make it work, how's
there any hope for the rest ofus?
And I just laugh at stuff likethat.
But the truth is compromiseI've got to be honest with you I
(41:07):
had to lose a lot of myself iscompromise like I'd be honest
with you?
You know I had to lose a lot ofmyself?
Yeah, you know.
And I say that I say that not,not so that should sound so like
I just lost myself and I'm justa bloated idiot and I just do
everything she says I mean I do.
but uh, in reality, you know, weboth have our parts that we
(41:30):
play, and she's had to sacrificea lot too to be with me.
You know what I mean.
She's had to compromise a lot,because I'm no perfect person by
any means, so she has been agreat pillar in terms of being
able to be someone I can lean onand count on when times are
rough and things like that.
(41:50):
So, I really enjoyed the episode, just being able to talk about
that.
I don't know how long we'vewent.
I don't know if this is aone-parter or two-parter, but I
still enjoy the conversation.
Sambassador (42:01):
Yep, we'll leave that up to your son over there
to figure that out.
I will say this I've got onecoming up that I promise you you
will not want to miss.
We're gonna.
We'll make sure we keep itchronologically in order.
Um, but I've got one coming upwith a fellow that I met soon
after we started setting, afterwe started putting sheds into
(42:24):
western North Carolina.
Um, he caught us completely outof the blue when we were
dropping one of the first loadsof the Amish, the Laniker boys,
out of northern Indiana, whenthey brought those big loads in
Zach's mother's come in withthat I forget.
He had six sheds on one load.
(42:44):
I think we dropped them there inBarnardsville and they met a
guy named Jeremy Barker.
And Jeremy Barker went, did,does facebook lives every day.
He did a facebook live withthose sheds there and stuff.
And I was like who in the worldis this guy that's trying to
(43:05):
take over our whole operation upthere?
What is going on?
And this dude is nothing butstraight.
Heaven sent, not just for mebut for Western North Carolina
and for the shed industry andfor what we're doing up there,
been an incredible, incredibleblessing and help.
And he's from the towelindustry incredible blessing and
(43:29):
help.
He's from the towel industry,bath towel, showers and plumbing
stuff like that.
He's almost the same thing inthe towel industry as what I am
in the shed industry.
I'm going to get him on here.
Somebody let him into thehauler page.
It wasn't me, I wasn't the onethat led him.
(43:50):
Somebody led him into the haulerpage and he is just.
He loves the Shed HaulerBrotherhood absolutely just
loves them to death.
And I'm going to get aninterview with him and when I do
it's going to be a crazy one.
So, whatever you do, when yousee that interview, come up with
Jeremy Barker.
Believe you me, it's going tobe a good one.
We're going to have a blast.
Shed Geek (44:10):
I look forward to it.
I always look forward to it,Sam, the conversations
opportunity.
I know we plan on getting downthere to Texas, to the uh the,
uh the, I don't know you call it, are you calling it biannual?
I don't know.
Every 18 months, I don't knowwhat to do.
Sambassador (44:30):
So we can't call it annual or biannual.
Shed Geek (44:32):
Yeah, so anyway, I'm looking forward to getting down
there to the to the shed haulersbash, and it'll be in Texas
this year.
Are you going to make theOklahoma four state barbecue?
I should.
I was talking to Travis the dayand, uh, I definitely plan on
being there.
I'm trying to get.
Me and Deanna's trying to get alot of our travel coming up, uh
(44:55):
, in the next several months,because we want to try to spend
a month or two at home in thesummer.
Yeah, uh, this year, but we'retalking about we've got a North
Carolina, New York, and then I'mwanting to go to North and
South Dakota.
I want to go into possiblyMinnesota I'm not sure that's a
lot of territory, so it dependson how long we're out, but I'd
(45:17):
like to spend some time in allthree of those states.
If there's any shed haulers,builders, salespeople, if you've
got a product or that that thatis specific to the shed
industry, let me know.
I'd love to swing by wheneverwe get out there.
So, Minnesota, North Dakota,South Dakota that's our plan for
this year.
(45:37):
Uh, at least in the spring,early spring, early summer, um,
but yeah, our plan is to get outthere to Oklahoma in April as
well so my, my tentative plan isto be there.
Sambassador (45:52):
I've got some details that have to work out
yet, but we're actually taking afamily trip out to South Texas
right around that same time andthen I'm meeting up in Central
Texas with the Texas barbecueguys to do some planning for the
bash stuff and then ideally, Iwould like to sneak up there.
(46:14):
Ideally, I'm not sure, I don'thave all my details worked out
yet, but ideally I would like tosneak up for the barbecue and
then get my family back home.
So, I'm not sure yet, but it'skind of I try to make them all.
Shed Geek (46:31):
I try to make them all, I even try to support them
all to some extent.
You know it's hard to give toevery area and every direction
and, and you know, but we, we doour best.
So we, we may just have tochange the way we, you know,
operate some of that, but I canpromise you we want to be a
supporter.
You know, just the same aseveryone else We've been.
(46:52):
We've been very blessed withour marketing, our rent to own
and our and our finance efforts.
Uh, we've got a couple ofthings more that we're launching
from the shed geek brand, or atleast, uh, I don't even want to
say launching, I don't want tosay too much.
I'm under some NDAs here, butwe got some things that we're
working out, that we want togrow the brand and I think, at
(47:15):
the end of the day, we want tohelp people.
My son got me a book that saysDad, I want to know your story,
and in that book we get to writedifferent things about who we
are and it's just something toleave behind for him and I
thought it was an excellent,excellent Christmas present from
him and it's really challengedmy thoughts.
But one of the things today thatI was supposed to write down is
what my favorite quote is, andI chose the quote you know, the
(47:37):
Zig Ziglar quote.
You know, to help others getwhat they want, so you can get
what you want and that's kind ofbecome just the song of my life
, if you will is to help othersbe successful.
I typically live off of theresidual effects of that, but
you can never go wrong helpingothers.
You just can't.
(47:57):
It's just, I've never had itbackfire on me.
Um, to help others it's.
You know you believe in a Godin heaven and you believe that
you know, uh, he is for us.
I think part of that isessential that he wants us to be
for each other too, and hewants us to help each other.
I think that's why we're onthis rock, you know, is to is to
help each other.
(48:19):
And um.
I, I we've been able to be verysuccessful in four years of
doing that.
We want to be more successful,not just so that we can brag on
our success, but so that we canbrag on him.
And I've said before, if hegives me a billion dollars and
maybe that means he wants me tobe charitable he just wants to
give me a simple salary and haveme take care of my family.
(48:40):
Maybe that's the focus he hason us.
Whatever it is, it doesn'tmatter at the end of the day
because it's his and not mine.
It doesn't matter at the end ofthe day because it's his and
not mine.
So, whatever wealth I thinkthat I've generated is just uh,
uh, to be a willing vessel to dothe work that he's put me here
to do anyway.
So, um, I I wrote that quotedown because I truly believe
that's become part of my missionin life is just to help others.
(49:02):
Me and you, I think, aresimilar in that way.
We just go about it differentways.
Maybe we take different routesto get there, but that's okay.
I still say you got the biggestheart of anybody that I know.
I'm super happy to have you onHeroes in the podcast.
I look forward to the next sixmonths and I want people to call
in text email, fill out a leadform on the website.
(49:23):
Whatever you got to do, I wantto get some more interviews, not
only with myself but with SamByler, and let's just see where
this thing goes and, who knows,if this ends in August.
I've really, really contemplatedtrying to get a host in the
post frame space.
(49:43):
Yes, we've got the Steel Kingstaking care of Monday now and
they're really focusing on thesteel side of the industry.
We're taking care of sheds.
It'd be nice to have a postframe person out there who's a
personality, who really knows alot about it and, uh, could,
could, could host a podcast tohelp bring stories and different
things to the forefront.
(50:04):
That would be awesome.
Um, you know, the shedsometimes becomes the common
denominator in all of thesethings.
Sam, we don't mind to host ithere on our platform, but we're
just thankful.
We're thankful for the wholeindustry and what you've done,
embracing us, even those whochallenged us or even those of
you who don't like us.
(50:25):
We love you back anyway,absolutely 100%.
Sambassador (50:28):
I agree.
Those of you who don't like us,we love you back anyway,
absolutely 100, I agree anything.
Shed Geek (50:33):
Anything else you got my friend no, I'm good.
Sambassador (50:36):
Um, we're crazy busy right now still trying to.
Um, we'll never it's.
It's.
I'm back to my clan starfishstory.
You know that you can't, youcan't get them all, but the ones
you can get you can make 100difference to them.
Um, so that's what we're stillfocused on.
It's.
There's some big questions outthere as to how far and how long
(50:58):
that goes and I've always saidyou know, as long as people keep
giving me sheds and as long ashaulers keep showing up and
delivering them, I keep goingand I keep wondering every week.
You know, is this?
It is this the week I won't getany haulers?
Keep showing up and deliveringthem.
I keep going and I keepwondering every week.
You know, is this?
It Is this the week I won't getany haulers?
Or, you know, is it going to benext week?
So, if anybody out there wantsto, you know, if you have any
(51:18):
interest whatsoever in comingand getting the huge blessing of
being involved in helpingchange people's lives.
You know we still need sheds,and we still need guys to
deliver sheds, because I'm stillfocused on doing it
professionally.
I'm still focused on doing itwith the right guys, the right
(51:39):
equipment.
I'm not letting just anybodywith a flatbed show up and pick
up our sheds and deliver them.
I want the shed industryinvolved and pick up our sheds
and deliver them.
I want the shed industryinvolved and right now.
You know it's a challengebecause I've probably got 50
sheds sitting there right nowthat we can get out by the time
this episode comes out.
Who knows, I might have morethan that.
Even so, there's a hugeopportunity to be able to come
(52:03):
and be involved doing whatyou're already doing.
You know you don't have tobring a chainsaw, you don't have
to bring a skid steer, youdon't have to come frame a house
, hang sheet, rock or all that.
There's people that still justneed a place to where they can
be secure until they get allthat stuff.
Shed Geek (52:23):
So, yeah, I'm good.
I definitely appreciate yourheart.
I love kind of where theconversation went today.
We didn't have any plansnecessarily.
Sambassador (52:35):
We wanted to get on here and talk.
You said something about youranniversary.
It's like, oh, this needs to betalked about before we end this
.
Shed Geek (52:44):
How?
How family is affected in theindustry is as important a
conversation as any.
And we could, who knows?
We could go down so many roads,but I hope the listeners
receive it today because it'ssure been fun.
And you know we don't, we don'ttalk just for because we're
bored, but we wanted to get onand talk about the shed industry
.
And who knew that family wouldbe the topic of that?
Sambassador (53:06):
and who knew that family would be the topic of
that.
So anyway, as Shannon said alittle bit ago, reach out to him
.
Info@ shedgeek.
com.
You can reach me at Sam@shedgeek.
com.
Both of those are stillavailable.
You're on Shed Geeks onFacebook, Shannon Latham's on
Facebook, Sam Byler's onFacebook.
You can reach us through that.
(53:27):
Feel free to reach out to us.
Would love to hear from you,and I know Shannon would too.
So anyway, without further ado,thank you guys for joining us
once again for hanging out withus at the Shed Geek Podcast,
Friday fun days with your host,Sam Byler, Sambassador style
(53:49):
signing off.
We'll see y'all next week.
Welcome back to part two of a two-part episode.
Be sure to go back and listento part one.
You might've missed something.
Hope you enjoy the conversationtoday.
Shed Geek (00:20):
I'm curious, I want to ask you a question.
Uh, while we're talking aboutfamily, marriage and all of
these things in the in theindustry, like, and how they
relate to the industry, what'syou and what's you and Miss
Karen story?
You know I consider her meekand quiet and, uh, just
(00:51):
supportive and, um, you knowyou're like me, you're loud and
proud and out here just goingeverywhere a hundred mile an
hour and you know getting stuffdone and knocking things down.
She just seems like the kindest.
You know getting stuff done andknocking things down.
Sambassador (01:09):
She just seems like the kindest you know and best
supporter for you I would, Iwould say the single best.
(01:31):
I'll get into the story alittle bit because people need
to know it a little bit.
Comment that I can leave aboutmy wife is don't let her
kindness fool you into thinkingit's weakness and I even dare
say the proper way, if I canfigure out how to say this don't
think it's meekness.
She is definitely 100% theclosest thing to my mama as I've
(01:52):
ever known, which is kind ofcrazy, because they say sons
marry their moms and daughtersmarry their dads.
you know, I don't know if you'veever heard that or not, but I
was told that yeah, yeah, a longtime ago, and my and my simple
answer to that would have beenat 18 years old.
That and I've said this foryears, even after my, even after
(02:13):
being married my mama died.
Um, basically six months afterwe got married, I lost my mom
and, but she had had healthproblems for years already.
My wife never seen my mom inher 100% true form.
But my wife will tell you in aheartbeat that there was not a
(02:34):
more loving, more sweet, moregentle soul on earth than my
mama, and all her sisters willtell you that Everybody that
knew Leah Byler would say thatshe never had a bad word for
anybody.
She never said anything badabout anybody, and the closest
thing that I found on this earthto my mom is my wife.
(02:57):
Now, that does not mean at allthat they cannot hold their own,
because they can.
My mama held her own with mydaddy many a time, um, when at
the still waters run deep and,be you know, speak soft and
carry a big stick.
That all fits my wife to a team.
I love her, love her dearly forit.
(03:18):
We I mean, lord, I can't eventhink where I'd be today with I
wouldn't.
I wouldn't be here today if itwasn't for my wife, um, we
weren't quite as young as y'allwere when we started, um, when
we started dating.
But we were young, um, and youknow, we dated for two years and
I got married six weeks after Iturned 19.
(03:41):
Um, so I was, you know, marriedyoung, grew up, basically grew
up together.
Both of us did.
She came from a completedifferent background than I was
used to and, you know, same forme to her, but we, we learned
how to do life together.
We learned, we learned how todeal with humans, with each
(04:06):
other.
And you know we still have ourdays.
You know it's still a work inprogress.
You know it's not like, oh man,I can't wait till I turn 50
years old and I just love mywife every day, just because of
who she is.
You know, it's no.
We were talking about it theother day, about how it still
takes a lot of work to make itwork.
(04:28):
And you know we still mess up,we still get it wrong some days,
but there is nobody on the faceof the earth that I'd rather do
life with.
And you know, 35 years comingup in November and we were
together for two years beforethat.
So, 37 years, you know it's.
It's just.
It seems crazy, it doesn't evenseem possible.
Shed Geek (04:51):
Congrats, man.
That's a, that's a, it's agreat, it's a, it's a great
thing.
And, yeah, man, I just I don'tknow Definitely thankful.
You know, we too have had tosee lots of different versions
of ourselves and learn how todeal with people, and the word
(05:11):
that I usually give at leastyeah, in my opinion, the word
that I like to give peoplewhenever they're asking about
relationship advice and I don'tnecessarily get asked all the
time, but when I do, I like totell them compromise.
Compromise is one of thebiggest words.
(05:32):
You know, in the 25 years thatwe've been together, 29 years
that we've been together overall, I have learned that compromise
is definitely one of the keysto relationship, in my opinion,
and what I mean by that is youknow, you're two different
people and you're two differentversions of yourself over
(05:56):
different decades.
You're 20s, you're 30s, you're40s.
You're just, you're different.
You grow into different peopleand different roles, and one.
You have to make a steadyeffort to come back together.
You know not, it doesn't happenonce and you're done.
You've got to continue to makethe effort every day.
But compromise too.
(06:18):
There's times that we used toget into an argument on a Friday
night, and I might be right onthis one and I just thought, man
, I gotta.
I got to hold on to it.
I don't know if you guys haveever seen Nate Nate Bergazzi.
He's one of my favoritecomedians.
He's a clean comedian out of uh, out of Nashville, and uh he
talks about.
It's one of my favorite things.
(06:40):
He talks about one fell swoop.
You know he said my wife usedthe term one fell swoop one time
and I couldn't understand whyshe used it.
He never uses it, but it's likeshe heard the word.
Now, all of a sudden, she'susing it.
Every time you turn around, I'mone fell swooping.
Everywhere we go, he says here'swhat we're going to do, because
you know they're, they got allthese different, they got all
these different family events Igot to go to because of divorces
(07:02):
and stuff for Christmas.
And she says we're going to gohere, do this, do that, whatever
we're going to do it all in onefell swoop.
And he said I don't.
I don't think it means what youthink.
It means that's not one fellswoop, it would be all at once.
And we're talking about goinghere, coming back, going here,
coming back.
And he said she just felt right,and they went to bed angry at
(07:23):
each other and he said well, Ican't just have you out here One
fell swooping saying it thewrong way to everybody.
You got my last name.
You know he's hilarious if youwatch him.
But he says he said you know wedon't apologize as married
couples who have been togetherfor a long time.
(07:43):
There's two things that happenif you ever notice.
And his version was.
He said you know, she just cameover and gave me a kiss before
I went to bed.
I just kind of took that as,like the argument's over.
You know it's time to go to bed.
We should go to bed and just bedone with it.
And he said but I really feltlike I had this one in the bag.
So he said I walked in the roomand said well, it's just not
what it means.
Sambassador (08:02):
Oh boy.
Shed Geek (08:04):
I thought you idiot.
You know, he laughed, of course, and made a joke and he said
you know, my marriage almostended in one fell swoop, you
know.
Sambassador (08:12):
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Shed Geek (09:59):
I used to.
If I felt about my one fellswoop argument, I would drive
home like Nate would, and it wasFriday night and the next thing
I know we're arguing all theway into Sunday and I think what
I've learned now and timecreates wisdom, I guess, whether
we want it to or not, becausethere's times now that even if
I'm right on something, I willchoose peace over being right,
(10:22):
and I will go to her and I willsay I don't want to argue all
weekend whether I'm right orwhether I'm wrong.
I value this relationship and Ilove you more than this
argument and I love this weekendwe have together more than this
argument.
So, whether I'm right orwhether I'm wrong, I'm sorry and
I want to have a good weekendwith you because I don't want to
argue and that's changedeverything.
(10:45):
I mean that changes so much.
There's a maturing there that'sso necessary.
Back in the day I would havebeen like no no.
I'm right on this.
I'm not giving up, I'm notgiving my position away on this.
Sambassador (10:59):
And when you learn that lesson.
Shed Geek (11:00):
It's important.
Sambassador (11:01):
I learned a long time ago that if I just wait,
I'll be right later, and it'simportant.
I learned a long time ago thatif I just wait, I'll be right
later, and it'll all be allright anyway.
Shed Geek (11:09):
Just let it play out right.
Yeah, just let it play out andyou never have to look at her
and say, was I right, you'lljust know.
Sambassador (11:18):
Disclaimer that's the funniest joke tonight.
Yet I'm never right Sometimesif I just let it go and wait six
, six months I'll find out.
Shed Geek (11:28):
She's right anyway, you know, yeah, my favorite
thing is my wife's ability tosee things that I don't see,
when I'm arrogant enough tothink that I've got the answers
and got things figured out.
And uh, you know, she, she seesthings that I I'm not able to.
I think that's why it takes ateam effort.
I think people will identifywith this podcast who work in
(11:50):
our industry, because you haveto work together to figure it
out, don't you?
Whether you're in manufacturing, whether you're in hauling,
whether you're in sales,especially those who have to
travel, you know, for extendedperiods of time.
Um, it takes real effort tomake to make a relationship work
(12:13):
, doesn't?
Sambassador (12:14):
it, yeah, and you cannot do this business without
relationships, yeah.
So, um, if you're, if you're abig enough company to where you
don't have to have B2Brelationships, you have to have
E2E relationships.
Everyone to everyone, oh yeah,everyone.
(12:37):
To everyone, employer toemployee, you could say well,
I'm not going to have to haverelationships with my rent done,
I'm not going to have to haverelationships with my rent done,
I'm not going to have to haverelationships with my haulers,
I'm not going to have to haverelationships with a
manufacturer, because I'm justgoing to do it all in-house
myself.
Well, you're going to have tobuild relationships with those
people because you're mercy.
(13:00):
Can you imagine?
You get up in the morning, youbuild your own shed, you sell
your own shed, you haul your ownshed, you do your own rent, you
pick it back up you sell itagain.
Shed Geek (13:10):
Yeah, you got to have the relationships.
You got to have relationships.
What do you see, Sam?
You've been in and around theindustry for a long time
Anything particular in now,March of 2025, that creeps up on
(13:32):
your radar directions that theindustry's going some kind of
like amazing insight.
Do you think it's just a statusquo?
Do you think there's a lot ofchange happening or getting
ready to happen?
That's one of the biggestquestions I get.
Probably the most commonquestion I get from one place to
the next is you know what areyou seeing out there?
(13:52):
What does your crystal ballkind of tell you?
What does it look like?
The direction is for thingsgoing?
You have any like magicalinsight tonight, Anything that's
just tickling your brain therefor the direction of the
industry versus what it was,maybe the next five years, what
we should expect?
Sambassador (14:13):
So, you know, a couple of years ago we threw
around the word collaborationand then we threw around what
was that word?
It's almost like collaboratebut, um, like acquisitions or
additions.
There you go Acquisition iswhat I was looking for.
So, I've kind of every year Ikind of try to come up with what
(14:36):
I see or whatever, and I'mgoing to tell you this is going
to sound bad, and I don't meanit as a bad thing, I'm just
saying this is what I see and Ithink it's a good thing.
But the grind, um, I see a grindcoming that goes through
probably most of next year, evenwhen some, some of us are just
(14:58):
gonna have to buckle down and,you know, just accept that it's
gonna get.
It might get a little, it mightget a little tough, it might
get a little hard.
I'm not saying it from anegative point of view
whatsoever, but just be willingto be content in the grind.
Embrace the suck I don't knowif you've ever heard that or not
(15:18):
, but it's a little hard for mebecause I'm constantly wanting
to move.
I think is the word.
You know, I'm not cool withjust holding still and I kind of
pick up on that a little bitfrom just different areas of it,
not just in manufacturing, notjust in hauling, not just in
(15:40):
rent to own.
But I kind of gather thateverybody's just a little bit in
a like I wish the bash was nextweek instead of in October.
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Sambassador (17:09):
I want to get everybody together and throw a
big party, except I don't wantit just for haulers, I want it
for haulers, rent-to-ownmanufacturing, sales guys.
I just feel like everybody'sstuck in a grind a little bit
and some of these guys listen,some of these guys that are
influencing me right now havehad crazy good January and
(17:29):
February already.
The Southeast, especiallybecause it's I don't care what
they say, I don't care if theyblame it on marketing or sales
or whatever.
Helene took out so muchinfrastructure in every aspect
of living, we know, includingstorage and sheds and tiny
(17:52):
houses, that to replace all ofthat back is an industry in
itself right now.
And I'm not talking about justWestern North Carolina, I'm
talking about Florida, Georgia,South Carolina, North Carolina,
Tennessee, Virginia, you know,up into Kentucky, and now we've
had more flooding and more, youknow, buildings destroyed
(18:16):
through the flooding, again inWest Virginia and Kentucky, some
down into Tennessee.
Um, I don't know if you've beenkeeping up with the news or not
, but South Carolina even we had178 wildfires.
It's insane and you knowthrough that there's more
(18:37):
destruction, you know, I don'tknow.
So, yeah, I guess I'm kind ofjust stuck there.
I'm like just be happy, behappy in this up for the time
being because, and you know, forme personally, I'm man, I don't
know, I don't know where I'mheaded in the next six months.
I would have said, you know, Iwould have said, I'll easily
(19:03):
still be involved in the shedindustry from the inside, which
is what I call us, we'reinsiders.
Um, and now I'm, I'm looking atdecisions that have to be made
as to still being in, you know,involved in the shed industry,
but not as an insider.
And it's like, what does thateven look like?
Shed Geek (19:26):
but not as an insider and it's like what does that
even look like?
Well, you know, the comfort issomething that we all want.
We want good years, the greatyears, and things are going
good, and things are coming easy.
But that's not reality.
That's not.
That's not for most folks.
That's not typically the case.
Everything is not alwayssunshine and bright skies and
(19:51):
things like that.
There's a whole.
My family certainly didn't feelthat way growing up and I think
we've been blessed to have itbetter than our family.
Our family, you know, and, andyou know there's still been
(20:11):
roads of despair, dire straits,depression, anxiety, you know,
trouble financially, spiritually, emotionally, physically.
I mean there there's been allof these, these things, and I
feel like I've had it betterthan my folks, who had it better
than their folks.
So, I agree with you andcomfort is something that we all
(20:35):
crave, but I'm not sure, ifcomfort's what we're promised.
I mean, I think you still got toget up and you got to put your
work boots on and you got to goto work, no matter what you're
doing, if you're sitting at acomputer working away, or if
you're if you're in a truck, orif you're swinging a hammer,
whatever it is you're doing.
You know, I think we're stillsupposed to do that with, with
(20:59):
everything that we have, and Ithink that if you're following
the Lord's path that you'resupposed to be on, to be on, I
think that's uh, uh, that'sgoing to be evident for you.
You're going to know, or you'regoing to know, that you're not
doing it.
One or the other, um, and youknow, he, the, the, the.
The really unique thing is hedoes put us in.
Uh, you know, I I still feelcalled to be in this industry.
(21:20):
You know, there's still manythings in my life that are, you
know, equally as passionateabout and something that me and
you both are similar on, andthat's prison ministry.
Hebrews 13, 3,.
Be with those in prison asthough you're in prison yourself
, and even the downtrodden thosethat are without.
You know, I got a podcastcoming up you're going to love.
(21:42):
It's kind of going to remind mea lot of this podcast with me
and you.
Today I went to my buddy, joeIgnis, out of Knoxville.
He's one of our advertisers onour newsletter.
Go check it out, buy his stuff,all that good stuff.
Me and Joe have been friendsfor some time.
He's been on the podcastseveral times.
Some of his employees have aswell Real good sales guy and all
(22:04):
this.
He had an event down inKnoxville and I went to it and I
got a chance to hear sometestimonies there that just blew
my socks off and we're going tohave a gal on the podcast here
before too long named Kelly, onthe Wednesday show and her
testimony is just tremendous.
And I said you know, I don'tknow if my viewers will
(22:25):
appreciate that we're not onhere just talking about sheds
and maybe the cosmetics of thesheds, the manufacturing and
structural integrity of thesheds, the aesthetics and the
challenges of delivery andmanufacturing and sales and
marketing.
It's really just her story and Ihaven't really talked about
this yet her story and I haven'treally talked about this yet
(22:47):
and I'm gonna I'll drop a littlesmall nuclear bomb here, but
you know even what you've beendoing out in western North
Carolina and being inspired by,uh, the giving mentality that is
Sam Byler, always say you gotthe biggest heart out of anybody
that I that I know.
And, um, this gal has a called.
Oh, I'll maybe have to tell youon that show, the Widowed
(23:12):
Something or Another.
And that's kind of part of herstory and one of the reasons I
want to have her on here is Iwant to.
I feel pretty strong about this, but I want to check.
But I really feel like we'vebeen looking for a.
There's plenty of opportunity,Sam.
There's just what you guys aredoing out there in North
(23:34):
Carolina.
There's more opportunity thanthat you can do in a lifetime.
So not dismissing what you'redoing by any means, but I felt
really, really called andobligated to hear her story
further and to maybe evenconsider some kind of official
campaign around her nonprofitand the story that she's got in
(23:57):
helping people.
I think I've told you this.
We're trying to write a book, achildren's book.
I want to take half of thoseproceeds and donate it towards
something and there's plenty ofthings in the shed, industry and
associated with to give.
But I felt so moved by her story.
You know, I just you know, when.
(24:18):
You know, I don't know how toexplain it, but I want to talk
with her farther and see if wecan watch some kind of like
official campaign around, likeher, her mission work and what
she's trying to do for orphansand widows and things like that.
It just it was amazing.
But you said something that Iwant to touch on and then I'll
shut up because it's easy for meto chat.
(24:39):
You said, who knows, even insix months, and I kind of wanted
to talk about, you know, eventhe podcast, even the fun day
Fridays that Sam is doing, andwhat that will look like.
You've been great man, justcoming on and doing the podcast,
and one of my favorite thingsis that you're still the most
listened to podcast I've everhad in four years.
(25:01):
And I thought, man, surelypeople want to hear from the guy
because they certainly listento him, and this has just been
fun.
We've already been at this.
I don't know if you realizethis, but we've been at this
seven months.
Sambassador (25:13):
Yeah, so I was, so I was the launch and uh we kind
of talked about recordings wewere recording two months before
that already.
Shed Geek (25:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's it.
The time comes quick, uh, butyou know, ask, asking people to
continue to, to be on andprovide content at that level.
That's a, that's a challenge,you know, uh to, to ask you guys
to do that, but it does mean alot that you do.
But we're talking about maybewinding it down near the end of
(25:44):
August, uh, unless, unless Godchanges something or put some
kind of like, stay in the middleof that.
Um, so I just want to encouragepeople, first and foremost.
If you want to get an interviewwith Sam Byler, it's time to do
it, cause we've got about sixmonths left, uh, for him to join
us here and call us, sit down,sit down with us, call us info
(26:07):
at shed geek.
com.
You got Sam's number.
Give him a call, tell him hey,let's sit down and do an
interview, tell our story, Uh,um, but we'll see where it goes
and we'll see where Sam goes.
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Sambassador (28:06):
Oh man, there's so much stuff out there right now.
I don't know.
I used to always so.
I've always done storm responsework, love doing it, but it's
always been like a.
It's not even a secondary thing, it's not even third, it's more
(28:27):
fourth or fifth or sixth on thelist of what I do, and this
time around the momentum we'vebuilt off of this one and the
people that you know, all thelittle bobbling heads, that and
I don't mean that derogatorily,I'm just saying all the voices
(28:49):
that are speaking up that youknow I you know, I've got guys
telling me I could solve, Icould solve the homeless problem
in the us.
And I'm like all I hear is a lotof work, a lot of work, and
they're like they, with themomentum you have and the
connections you have, if anybodycould do it, you could do it.
(29:09):
And you're cut out to do it.
It's what you're called to do.
And I'm like man, I don't knowwho you guys are talking to, but
it ain't the same dude I'mtalking to.
And then you sit back andyou're like what if they're
right?
What if that's something you'resupposed to be doing?
What if it's something that youshould be looking into?
(29:30):
That your calling isn't?
You know, I mean, when you stopand think about it, it wouldn't
be that hard to do.
It's like you know, we haveliterally in less than five
months actually considering thefact we didn't really start
until the first of November,November, December, January,
(29:50):
February, you know, four monthsflat we put 533 sheds on the
ground and we've probably got 50sitting there right now that
are ready for delivery.
I need more haulers and I'vegot another commitment to I
don't know.
Some of these guys arecommitted to still sending me
(30:12):
some more.
We'll probably get to 600fairly easy.
And you know, and when youstart taking those numbers and
you start thinking about okay,so what if we had 10, 12, 15
regional hubs, you know to where?
The sheds from Maine wouldn'tcome to here anymore, they would
(30:34):
go into Philly or into, youknow, somewhere around New York
City or you know wherever it'sat.
And all of a sudden you startdoing 10 here and you start
doing 10 over there and youstart doing, and it's like wow,
you can make a really bigdifference.
So, I don't know, I don't knowwhere we're going.
Um, I do like the idea thatwe're both cool with the idea
(30:56):
that we can wrap this up at theend of August.
Um, and then, if all of asudden, something changes, we're
both good with that too.
Yeah, um, I like it.
I'm good with that too.
Yeah, um, I like it, I'm goodwith that either way.
Um, I could, you know,currently, right now, I could
see the end of august wrappingup and being good with it.
Um, if all of a sudden,everybody's like, hey, wait a
(31:16):
minute, we want to hear morefrom him, and they're willing to
do the interviews.
I'll be honest, I love doingthem.
I absolutely love doing thepodcast, enjoy every minute of
it, hearing everybody's storiesand stuff.
I do not enjoy having to thumpon people to try to get them to
do an interview.
Um, I've got four or fivehaulers right now that will
(31:38):
never probably listen to this,but if they do, um that have
told me they'll do interviewsbut they won't give you the time
to do them and it's like youknow what, just step up and do
one and everybody that does them, you know, when they're done,
they're like oh, that was cool,you actually enjoyed doing it.
And there's a couple of themthat if we're going to, you know
, if I am going to wrap up atthe end of August, I got to get
(32:00):
a couple of follow ups done andmake sure we get those in,
because I want to come back andsay, hey, you know, here we are
a year later.
Is it doing what you said itwas going to do?
Have you landed where youwanted to land?
What's it look like?
You know, uh, definitely wantto follow up on some of those,
but the fact that you and I canbe cool with it, hey, you know
(32:21):
what we can wrap this up.
If something crazy happens,we'll keep going.
Or you know, yeah, maybe I'mgoing to do If something crazy
happens, we'll keep going.
Or you know, maybe I come inand do one every six months,
maybe I come in and do one everysix weeks, or whatever that
looks like.
I love it.
I'm perfectly fine with that.
Shed Geek (32:36):
We've had a hit or miss response.
You know they say fear ofpublic speaking is actually the
fifth highest fear among mostpeople.
And I tell people, whetheryou're afraid of speaking or not
, you do it every day now anyway, and if you're a salesperson,
(32:57):
you do it as a career.
So, you know, fear of speakingis good in the sense that you're
afraid to speak in most casesbecause you want your message to
be received.
And I've always heard, ifyou're preparing for a speech
and you're nervous, it means youhaven't prepared enough.
But you know we take a differentapproach here at the podcast.
(33:19):
We're blue jeans and t-shirtsand work boots.
You know, like we haven'torganized this in such a way yet
and maybe we will, maybe wewon't, I don't know to where.
You know, uh, it's, it'sextremely white collar and
without all my ums.
We don't, we don't edit all ofthose out.
(33:39):
I used to think, oh, sounds sostupid all these ums.
I said I'm 154 times my firstpodcast and I'm like you know
what, even if we edit it out, ifsomeone met me, I'm going to
say um 154 times in an hour andthat's how I sound anyway.
And I learned to sort of justbe okay with that.
But I admit, even whenever Iget asked to speak at an event,
(34:03):
you know I always tell peoplethere's the nerves, are there
because of the accountability,but honestly, we're telling
people stories is the way I lookat it.
You know we can talk aboutthings that you talk about
sitting around a, a shed haulertable at a at a barbecue or
sitting on a set on a Pine Hilltrailer at the at the shed expo.
Sambassador (34:25):
You know what I?
Shed Geek (34:26):
mean, those are the conversations we're looking to
get.
You know and do something that,that, that that promotes the
general, where general welfareof the industry as a whole,
education through entertainment,have fun, laugh, joke, don't
take yourself so serious, get onhere and add content and value.
(34:46):
And I think, Sam, you operateas an excellent host and, yeah,
if God changes that platform andsays, hey, let's get more.
But we've just had a mixture.
When we first started thepodcast, I got a ton of people
emailing me saying, hey, I'dlike to be on, I'd like to be on
.
We still get a fair share ofthat, but I have found that, yes
(35:10):
, typically you got to reach outto folks if I'm going on a trip
or if I'm doing this or that.
I think some folks have told methis Well, I'm not really
nobody, I don't got nothing tosay and I'm like, oh, I'm
excited about that Becausethat's probably going to be the
best podcast.
You know when they get lost inthe moment of just chatting and
(35:31):
they realize wait a minute, thisisn't a.
You know it's a professionalinterview.
But this isn't like we're notdressing this up.
I'm not asking you a bunch ofquestions.
I don't expect you to preloadyour, your thoughts, and you
know what I'm saying.
Like we come across, you know,super, super, uh, crisp and
clean on every little detail.
We're humans and we're humanshere on the podcast.
(35:53):
So, we, we will edit outsomething if you really feel
like it's something you didn'twant to say, or you or you felt
like you sounded stupid onsomething.
I sound stupid all the time, sothere'd be a lot of editing for
me I'm saying here if I'd everstart editing, I wouldn't have
any episodes left.
Sambassador (36:12):
so sorry, you learned to let it roll.
Um, I learned that a long timeago when we started doing
recordings with music andrecordings with some of the
prison ministry stuff we weredoing.
I talk funny, it's just a given, and I've just got to where you
know what?
I just embrace it.
Nobody can talk like Sam Byler.
(36:32):
That means nobody can mimic him, so there should never be any
issues there.
It is what it is.
You just learn to deal with it.
It's fine so yeah, I'm good,it's going to be exciting to see
what happens.
Um, we're actually talkingabout maybe exploring, you know,
(36:53):
going back to what I hadoriginally planned on doing four
years ago.
And you know I have a youtubechannel and four years ago we
had it all set up and we wereready to roll with that thing
and see where it goes.
And you know, I got completelysidetracked and went way off
another direction, which wasfine, totally fine.
(37:15):
But now I got guys saying, hey,you really need to get back,
you know, and if you're going tokeep doing what you're doing,
you know we got to start doingthis and that.
And I'm like I don't know.
There again, I'm the last guythat should have a YouTube
channel.
Shed Geek (37:30):
No, you're wrong.
You're definitely the guy thatwould be excellent to just
follow around.
Sambassador (37:39):
Well, we would have had an episode today that I
promise you would have made themLouisiana boys look just silly,
because when you gotscrewdrivers flying around in
circles and somebody's trying tostop them, don't even get me
started.
Shed Geek (37:57):
All the more reason why it would work really well
and I would definitely watch it.
No, I think it would be greatand more than anything, you know
, I'm just I don't know I'mgrateful for the friendship that
we've had.
You know, the different timesthat our careers have kind of
connected on different pointsand things like that.
I've always said that you'reone of the first people I was
(38:20):
drawn to.
I was in the industry for quitea while before I knew who you
were, so it wasn't really untilFacebook and your Facebook lives
and things like that where Ireally got to know you.
And then there was that wholetime that I reached out to you
and you ignored me for two years.
Sambassador (38:37):
I think that was the other Sam Baller.
Shed Geek (38:39):
It probably was.
It probably was.
Sambassador (38:44):
I got a big day.
Tomorrow I have a fullyfinished 18 by 40 cabin.
That's going to require two tothree mills to get it delivered
Way back in the sticks and downa dirt lane with all the rain
we've had lately.
It's gonna be a mess, but itneeds a bigger mule.
Shed Geek (39:01):
Well, when you talk, cardinal listens.
And you asked for it, and youasked for it.
With its diesel-powered69-horse engine and capacity to
move 40,000-pound sheds, theMule 9069 is ready to turn your
big days into just another dayin the good life.
Sambassador (39:25):
Ah, that's right, You're talking about the one
they had up in Michigan at theShed Show, that monster meal man
.
That thing was awesome.
Shed Geek (39:34):
That's right.
It's the one you've seen at all, the Shed Holler barbecues.
Man, yeah, there's nothing likea little diesel donkey to make
my day go so much better, but Igenuinely enjoy talking to you
every chance we get and I alwaysfeel like it's a conversation
that feeds me and I really likethat we could sit here and talk
(39:56):
on this podcast today and kindof brag on our wives and family
and things like that and uh nothave to talk about the uh.
maybe people want to hear aboutthe nuance of sales and
marketing and hauling andbuilding and manufacturing and
all this and you know, whatmaybe somebody just wanted to
hear that that that you knowthere's a story about family,
(40:18):
because that's ultimately whatthis is all for.
I work for my family.
Sambassador (40:23):
And, my goodness, if the two of us can make it
work, anybody out there can makeit work.
Maybe somebody need to hear,just to know that it's worth
sticking it out.
And then they're not the onlydummies out there trying to get
through it.
Because I promise you, ifShannon Latham and Sam Byler can
figure out how to make thewhole marriage thing work
happily, then there's hope foreverybody.
Shed Geek (40:45):
I'll tell you what Was it?
Albert Einstein that gotdivorced and somebody told me
they said if the smartest guy onearth can't make it work, how's
there any hope for the rest ofus?
And I just laugh at stuff likethat.
But the truth is compromiseI've got to be honest with you I
(41:07):
had to lose a lot of myself iscompromise like I'd be honest
with you?
You know I had to lose a lot ofmyself?
Yeah, you know.
And I say that I say that not,not so that should sound so like
I just lost myself and I'm justa bloated idiot and I just do
everything she says I mean I do.
but uh, in reality, you know, weboth have our parts that we
(41:30):
play, and she's had to sacrificea lot too to be with me.
You know what I mean.
She's had to compromise a lot,because I'm no perfect person by
any means, so she has been agreat pillar in terms of being
able to be someone I can lean onand count on when times are
rough and things like that.
(41:50):
So, I really enjoyed the episode, just being able to talk about
that.
I don't know how long we'vewent.
I don't know if this is aone-parter or two-parter, but I
still enjoy the conversation.
Sambassador (42:01):
Yep, we'll leave that up to your son over there
to figure that out.
I will say this I've got onecoming up that I promise you you
will not want to miss.
We're gonna.
We'll make sure we keep itchronologically in order.
Um, but I've got one coming upwith a fellow that I met soon
after we started setting, afterwe started putting sheds into
(42:24):
western North Carolina.
Um, he caught us completely outof the blue when we were
dropping one of the first loadsof the Amish, the Laniker boys,
out of northern Indiana, whenthey brought those big loads in
Zach's mother's come in withthat I forget.
He had six sheds on one load.
(42:44):
I think we dropped them there inBarnardsville and they met a
guy named Jeremy Barker.
And Jeremy Barker went, did,does facebook lives every day.
He did a facebook live withthose sheds there and stuff.
And I was like who in the worldis this guy that's trying to
(43:05):
take over our whole operation upthere?
What is going on?
And this dude is nothing butstraight.
Heaven sent, not just for mebut for Western North Carolina
and for the shed industry andfor what we're doing up there,
been an incredible, incredibleblessing and help.
And he's from the towelindustry incredible blessing and
(43:29):
help.
He's from the towel industry,bath towel, showers and plumbing
stuff like that.
He's almost the same thing inthe towel industry as what I am
in the shed industry.
I'm going to get him on here.
Somebody let him into thehauler page.
It wasn't me, I wasn't the onethat led him.
(43:50):
Somebody led him into the haulerpage and he is just.
He loves the Shed HaulerBrotherhood absolutely just
loves them to death.
And I'm going to get aninterview with him and when I do
it's going to be a crazy one.
So, whatever you do, when yousee that interview, come up with
Jeremy Barker.
Believe you me, it's going tobe a good one.
We're going to have a blast.
Shed Geek (44:10):
I look forward to it.
I always look forward to it,Sam, the conversations
opportunity.
I know we plan on getting downthere to Texas, to the uh the,
uh the, I don't know you call it, are you calling it biannual?
I don't know.
Every 18 months, I don't knowwhat to do.
Sambassador (44:30):
So we can't call it annual or biannual.
Shed Geek (44:32):
Yeah, so anyway, I'm looking forward to getting down
there to the to the shed haulersbash, and it'll be in Texas
this year.
Are you going to make theOklahoma four state barbecue?
I should.
I was talking to Travis the dayand, uh, I definitely plan on
being there.
I'm trying to get.
Me and Deanna's trying to get alot of our travel coming up, uh
(44:55):
, in the next several months,because we want to try to spend
a month or two at home in thesummer.
Yeah, uh, this year, but we'retalking about we've got a North
Carolina, New York, and then I'mwanting to go to North and
South Dakota.
I want to go into possiblyMinnesota I'm not sure that's a
lot of territory, so it dependson how long we're out, but I'd
(45:17):
like to spend some time in allthree of those states.
If there's any shed haulers,builders, salespeople, if you've
got a product or that that thatis specific to the shed
industry, let me know.
I'd love to swing by wheneverwe get out there.
So, Minnesota, North Dakota,South Dakota that's our plan for
this year.
(45:37):
Uh, at least in the spring,early spring, early summer, um,
but yeah, our plan is to get outthere to Oklahoma in April as
well so my, my tentative plan isto be there.
Sambassador (45:52):
I've got some details that have to work out
yet, but we're actually taking afamily trip out to South Texas
right around that same time andthen I'm meeting up in Central
Texas with the Texas barbecueguys to do some planning for the
bash stuff and then ideally, Iwould like to sneak up there.
(46:14):
Ideally, I'm not sure, I don'thave all my details worked out
yet, but ideally I would like tosneak up for the barbecue and
then get my family back home.
So, I'm not sure yet, but it'skind of I try to make them all.
Shed Geek (46:31):
I try to make them all, I even try to support them
all to some extent.
You know it's hard to give toevery area and every direction
and, and you know, but we, we doour best.
So we, we may just have tochange the way we, you know,
operate some of that, but I canpromise you we want to be a
supporter.
You know, just the same aseveryone else We've been.
(46:52):
We've been very blessed withour marketing, our rent to own
and our and our finance efforts.
Uh, we've got a couple ofthings more that we're launching
from the shed geek brand, or atleast, uh, I don't even want to
say launching, I don't want tosay too much.
I'm under some NDAs here, butwe got some things that we're
working out, that we want togrow the brand and I think, at
(47:15):
the end of the day, we want tohelp people.
My son got me a book that saysDad, I want to know your story,
and in that book we get to writedifferent things about who we
are and it's just something toleave behind for him and I
thought it was an excellent,excellent Christmas present from
him and it's really challengedmy thoughts.
But one of the things today thatI was supposed to write down is
what my favorite quote is, andI chose the quote you know, the
(47:37):
Zig Ziglar quote.
You know, to help others getwhat they want, so you can get
what you want and that's kind ofbecome just the song of my life
, if you will is to help othersbe successful.
I typically live off of theresidual effects of that, but
you can never go wrong helpingothers.
You just can't.
(47:57):
It's just, I've never had itbackfire on me.
Um, to help others it's.
You know you believe in a Godin heaven and you believe that
you know, uh, he is for us.
I think part of that isessential that he wants us to be
for each other too, and hewants us to help each other.
I think that's why we're onthis rock, you know, is to is to
help each other.
(48:19):
And um.
I, I we've been able to be verysuccessful in four years of
doing that.
We want to be more successful,not just so that we can brag on
our success, but so that we canbrag on him.
And I've said before, if hegives me a billion dollars and
maybe that means he wants me tobe charitable he just wants to
give me a simple salary and haveme take care of my family.
(48:40):
Maybe that's the focus he hason us.
Whatever it is, it doesn'tmatter at the end of the day
because it's his and not mine.
It doesn't matter at the end ofthe day because it's his and
not mine.
So, whatever wealth I thinkthat I've generated is just uh,
uh, to be a willing vessel to dothe work that he's put me here
to do anyway.
So, um, I I wrote that quotedown because I truly believe
that's become part of my missionin life is just to help others.
(49:02):
Me and you, I think, aresimilar in that way.
We just go about it differentways.
Maybe we take different routesto get there, but that's okay.
I still say you got the biggestheart of anybody that I know.
I'm super happy to have you onHeroes in the podcast.
I look forward to the next sixmonths and I want people to call
in text email, fill out a leadform on the website.
(49:23):
Whatever you got to do, I wantto get some more interviews, not
only with myself but with SamByler, and let's just see where
this thing goes and, who knows,if this ends in August.
I've really, really contemplatedtrying to get a host in the
post frame space.
(49:43):
Yes, we've got the Steel Kingstaking care of Monday now and
they're really focusing on thesteel side of the industry.
We're taking care of sheds.
It'd be nice to have a postframe person out there who's a
personality, who really knows alot about it and, uh, could,
could, could host a podcast tohelp bring stories and different
things to the forefront.
(50:04):
That would be awesome.
Um, you know, the shedsometimes becomes the common
denominator in all of thesethings.
Sam, we don't mind to host ithere on our platform, but we're
just thankful.
We're thankful for the wholeindustry and what you've done,
embracing us, even those whochallenged us or even those of
you who don't like us.
(50:25):
We love you back anyway,absolutely 100%.
Sambassador (50:28):
I agree.
Those of you who don't like us,we love you back anyway,
absolutely 100, I agree anything.
Shed Geek (50:33):
Anything else you got my friend no, I'm good.
Sambassador (50:36):
Um, we're crazy busy right now still trying to.
Um, we'll never it's.
It's.
I'm back to my clan starfishstory.
You know that you can't, youcan't get them all, but the ones
you can get you can make 100difference to them.
Um, so that's what we're stillfocused on.
It's.
There's some big questions outthere as to how far and how long
(50:58):
that goes and I've always saidyou know, as long as people keep
giving me sheds and as long ashaulers keep showing up and
delivering them, I keep goingand I keep wondering every week.
You know, is this?
It is this the week I won't getany haulers?
Keep showing up and deliveringthem.
I keep going and I keepwondering every week.
You know, is this?
It Is this the week I won't getany haulers?
Or, you know, is it going to benext week?
So, if anybody out there wantsto, you know, if you have any
(51:18):
interest whatsoever in comingand getting the huge blessing of
being involved in helpingchange people's lives.
You know we still need sheds,and we still need guys to
deliver sheds, because I'm stillfocused on doing it
professionally.
I'm still focused on doing itwith the right guys, the right
(51:39):
equipment.
I'm not letting just anybodywith a flatbed show up and pick
up our sheds and deliver them.
I want the shed industryinvolved and pick up our sheds
and deliver them.
I want the shed industryinvolved and right now.
You know it's a challengebecause I've probably got 50
sheds sitting there right nowthat we can get out by the time
this episode comes out.
Who knows, I might have morethan that.
Even so, there's a hugeopportunity to be able to come
(52:03):
and be involved doing whatyou're already doing.
You know you don't have tobring a chainsaw, you don't have
to bring a skid steer, youdon't have to come frame a house
, hang sheet, rock or all that.
There's people that still justneed a place to where they can
be secure until they get allthat stuff.
Shed Geek (52:23):
So, yeah, I'm good.
I definitely appreciate yourheart.
I love kind of where theconversation went today.
We didn't have any plansnecessarily.
Sambassador (52:35):
We wanted to get on here and talk.
You said something about youranniversary.
It's like, oh, this needs to betalked about before we end this
.
Shed Geek (52:44):
How?
How family is affected in theindustry is as important a
conversation as any.
And we could, who knows?
We could go down so many roads,but I hope the listeners
receive it today because it'ssure been fun.
And you know we don't, we don'ttalk just for because we're
bored, but we wanted to get onand talk about the shed industry
.
And who knew that family wouldbe the topic of that?
Sambassador (53:06):
and who knew that family would be the topic of
that.
So anyway, as Shannon said alittle bit ago, reach out to him
.
Info@ shedgeek.
com.
You can reach me at Sam@shedgeek.
com.
Both of those are stillavailable.
You're on Shed Geeks onFacebook, Shannon Latham's on
Facebook, Sam Byler's onFacebook.
You can reach us through that.
(53:27):
Feel free to reach out to us.
Would love to hear from you,and I know Shannon would too.
So anyway, without further ado,thank you guys for joining us
once again for hanging out withus at the Shed Geek Podcast,
Friday fun days with your host,Sam Byler, Sambassador style
(53:49):
signing off.
We'll see y'all next week.
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