Five Years of Shed Geek: Reflections and Future Directions

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Take a seat in the Batcave as Shannon pulls back the curtain on five years of podcasting journey and the evolving shed industry landscape of 2025. This rare monologue episode offers an intimate look at where Shed Geek started, where it's heading, and the philosophy driving its growth.

Shannon extends a heartfelt invitation to everyone in the shed world—dealers, manufacturers, haulers, and service providers—to share their unique stories on the podcast. "Everyone is welcome, even if we compete," he emphasizes, believing that transparent conversations benefit the entire industry. The podcast has become more than just interviews; it's a digital magazine where shed professionals can showcase their expertise while helping others grow.

The conversation explores exciting developments across multiple business fronts. From the new office space (converted from an old church) to the evolution of Shed Geek Marketing's approach that prioritizes education over sales tactics, Shannon reveals how their client-focused philosophy has fueled 187% growth. He also dives into the RTO business transformation, ShedHub's powerful SEO potential, and upcoming industry events that signal a maturing, more organized shed community.

Throughout the episode runs a thread of genuine gratitude—to listeners, advertisers, family members, and ultimately to finding purpose through serving the shed industry. Shannon's perspective on marketing as an investment rather than an expense offers valuable insight for any business owner looking to grow strategically.

Whether you're a shed industry veteran or newcomer, this candid conversation offers both practical business wisdom and a reminder of the community-building power of shared knowledge. Ready to share your story or learn more about the services discussed? Reach out to [e-mail] and become part of the ongoing conversation.

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Episode Transcript

INTRO (00:00):
Hello and welcome back to the Shed Geek Podcast.
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Shed Geek (01:35):
Okay, welcome back to another episode of the Shed
Geek podcast, and I am back inmonologue form today, just me.
Today, folks, we're lining upinterviews but twice a year I
like to try to take some timesomewhere around the middle of

(01:57):
the year and toward the end ofthe year, just kind of talk with
you guys, let you know what'sgoing on.
Just kind of talk with you guys, let you know what's going on.
Um, uh, I don't know.
Give some independent thoughtas opposed to just an interview
style.
Um, it is exciting, it'sawesome, it's nice.
Um, it's hot outside, but we'reright here in the middle of

(02:21):
summer.
It's July 31st, actually lastday of the month so we're
getting ready to hit August, andI have no idea how we are into
over half a year gone alreadyhere in 2025.
But we are also.
What are we celebrating?
We're not really celebratinganything.

(02:41):
We're in year five of thepodcast well, over 300 episodes.
I think we're getting closer to400 as we speak and I just
can't say thank you enough.
For those of you who arewatching, you get a chance to
see me here.
I don't know if you'reinterested in watching on

(03:03):
YouTube, but certainly encourageyou guys to go.
Do all the things, subscribe tothe YouTube channel.
You can see me here ramblingand in this case, you can
actually see my office.
I took my background off today.
So, if any of you ever wonderabout the Batcave, a secret
layer here what it looks like,there's only been a few folks

(03:23):
that's came to our new office tobe able to, uh, to see or to
interview, certainly encourageanybody who wants to.
If you're, if you're willing totravel here to metropolis
hometown of superman, uh,Metropolis, Illinois, right
across the river from Paducah,Kentucky, and do an interview
with me, hey, lunch is by allmeans on me and we even got a

(03:47):
room for you if you absolutelyneed a place to stay.
So, more more, more than happyto have you come see us, come
see our office.
Got a long way to go, don't getme wrong.
We have a lot left to do.
But here we are Year five,close to 400 episodes, 1,000

(04:07):
listeners each show, and Icontinue to say thank you, lord,
for the blessings that you'veprovided for us.
It has been a ride.
I don't see it slowing down.
I suspect we'll do this foranother five years or so.
There are still so many peopleto interview and guys.
I want to say this before Ieven get started.
I've got my notes here.

(04:28):
Right, I've got all my notes,and I just want to say if you
enjoy the podcast.
Sure, monologues are fine, butdialogue is good too, and I
don't mean just dialogue ofproducts and services, I mean
interview style dialogue withpeople in the industry, boots on

(04:51):
the ground, shed sellers, shedmanufacturers, shed haulers,
people who find their home inthe shed world.
Yeah, this is a place for you.
You don't have to.
What are some of the objectionsthat I've heard?
I don't really have anything tosay.
False, I believe that God makesus all unique and I believe he

(05:14):
allows us to learn from others.
I think that's why his wordsays that iron sharpens iron,
and I believe we have a lot togive.
Believe we have a lot to give.
It is my unique position to tryand ask good questions and
create an interview style thatmakes you feel welcome and that

(05:34):
just kind of talks about notjust the history of the shed
industry but your own personalhistory in the shed life and
what you have come to accomplishand how some of the lessons
you've learned, things you'vedone, experiences that you've
had, will ultimately lead tohelping others, which is what I
believe, personally, that we arecalled to do.

(05:54):
I believe that we can do thatthrough conversation.
The shed industry has been sogood to me.
I just can't.
I can't say thank you enough,because it's been really this
like lifelong journey that I wason looking for and you know, I
just seemed like I found it andit's almost as though every time
I venture outside of anythingshed related, that I just get

(06:20):
pulled, pulled right back intoit deeper and we can talk about
some of that here today.
Obviously, I want to try andget more people involved.
I just want to say this If youhave ever considered
interviewing, there's nopressure.
We don't ask you hard questions.
Nothing's live.
We can edit anything that weneed to.

(06:42):
If I'm overstep and ask yousomething about your business or
something that you don't wanton there, we'll take that out.
Our job and our goal here is notto create any division.
It's to create unity in theshed industry.
It's an industry I findfascinating and it's where I
make my living.
So, the last thing we want todo is damage, you know, the

(07:03):
industry or anyone's reputation.
So, we want you to feel welcomehere.
We want you to come sell yourthings here.
Your services, your products,talk about your expertise, your
knowledge in it.
We are a digital magazine.
Look at it from thatperspective.
We are digitally, you know,putting your voice out there, as

(07:26):
opposed to in print.
That's just for me.
That's a good way to explain apodcast.
Podcasts are unique just in justthe nature of itself, because
if you ask what a podcast is,everybody gives you a different
answer.
It gives you a different answerand I've heard from some of you
that have told me, since youstarted listening to Shed Geek
podcast, that you startedventuring out into other forms

(07:48):
of content that you love tolisten to, whether it be sales,
construction, business coaching,all these different things.
And to me, really, you know, apodcast is an RSS feed, which is
really simple syndication, andit's meant to be that.
It's a pod.
It's a pod, it's a small, it'sniche, as opposed to a broadcast
, which is, you know, to me,trying to reach everyone about

(08:12):
everything.
And we're just trying to talkabout sheds, carports, you know,
and things related to the shedindustry, whether it be gazebos,
carports, animal shelters, playsets, all the different
ancillary products that go alongkind of with sheds.
And that's what we do heretoday, it's what we've been

(08:33):
doing for five years.
That's what we want to do forfive more years.
Again, I want to say it and makeit abundantly clear Everyone is
welcome, even if we compete.
Matter of fact, especially if wecompete, I would venture to say
we need to be on here havingconversation, because I do
believe iron sharpens iron and Ibelieve we'll be better by

(08:53):
having conversation that istransparent and beneficial to
the listener, because they canhear the thoughts out loud as we
begin to challenge each otheron what is best for the industry
, or just have conversation thatis meant to build up and if

(09:14):
there's any criticism, it'smeant to be constructive.
I accept criticism in the formof constructive criticism
regularly, but we do not adhereto any bashing or bashing of any
companies or reputations.
We want everyone to win.
As the saying says, you can'tcompete with me because I want

(09:37):
you to win just as bad as Iwould like to win myself.
And that is true because Ithink that is the nature of our
faith which supersedes ourbusiness, and that is to want to
see others do well.
Now, at what point do we wantto see them do so well that we
do terrible Now?
That's a whole differentconversation and that's why we

(09:57):
need you on here talking.
We need you on here to haveconversation with us, because we
believe that everyone has notonly a unique story, but they
have a unique perception in theway that they perceive business,
uh, and the way that theyapproach business.

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Shed Geek (11:19):
I'm happy.
There are some interviews I'vebeen trying to get for years
that are coming around here inthe next oh, I don't know.
I would imagine they'll be onwithin the next two to three
months and I'm super excitedabout those.
We've been there, are somepeople we've been knocking on
the door of for years, others wehaven't gotten to yet.
I believe that you could dofive days a week of podcasting

(11:44):
and really never get bored withpeople's stories.
So many people in this industrydealers, haulers, yeah, there's
just so much.
So, I did to try to keep me ontrack.
I tried to write down somenotes just to try to keep me
focused as best I can.

(12:04):
Some topics, some things totalk about Monday show,
Wednesday show, Friday showObviously you guys know about
Jared uh and Eric on steel Kingsuh and what they're doing on
the Monday show and the goalthere is to kind of take some
guys you know Jared and Ericrunning Dayton uh, Barns and

(12:26):
Steel Structures there in DaytonOhio for years now they sell
for multiple manufacturers,steel structures across the
industry that have also soldsheds, um, so they're kind of
familiar with how there's, likethis overlay between sheds and
steel structures.
But the idea is to have goodtopics, high-level conversations

(12:48):
about what's happening in thesteel industry, the steel world,
how it will affect us, becauseso many shed dealers are also
steel structure dealers and sellthose different products.
So, we love to try to keep thatconversation over there and the
advertising network over therethat best benefits them, as best
we can.

(13:09):
Sam, I think you guys are awareSam's gone down to a once a
month show.
We have really stronglyconsidered maybe trying to do,
or find a personality to do, atiny home show on Friday.
Am I that personality?
I don't know.
I know that in marketing welove those who do tiny homes

(13:30):
because from a lead perspectiveman, they are some of our best
performing lead campaigns.
But I'm not sure if I'm thatguy, but maybe this is a call to
action, if you will, foranybody who feels like they are,
who really finds herself inthat home but also finds their

(13:56):
self- desiring to do somepodcasting content maybe around
that industry.
It's not a stretch to think thatshed builders build tiny homes
and you start getting into thewhole conversation almost
immediately.
Like you know what is a tinyhome and we're not talking about
the tiny home fad necessarilyof the HGTV days, 10 years ago,
300 square foot or 150 squarefoot, but you could.

(14:18):
There could be a conversationthere, but what we seem to be
seeing is like this need forhousing and more of these, you
know, 640 square foot or evenlarger, um, arguably, homes.
And then you get into all thenuance, all the disclosures, all
the things that you have to doIf you're going to call yourself
a tiny home manufacturer,primary residency, how that

(14:41):
affects, uh, financing.
We've run into a lot of thesethings on our journey.
So just something to thinkabout if you've ever found
yourself wanting to do that, wehost the show.
We just need you to provide thecontent, but we walk you
through 100% of that.
So if that were to come tofruition, what you're looking at
is a Steel Structure MondayShed Wednesday.

(15:03):
Tiny Home Friday.
I'm not sure if we would includelike a Tuesday or Thursday
episode or something at somepoint, but very possibly, uh,
for me, what matters the most isbringing you content that you
feel like listening to whenyou're swinging a hammer or
driving down the road orwhatever it is that we can say

(15:23):
to get your attention.
That is hopeful, beneficial,worth listening to, the same as
any talk show that you've everlistened to in your life.
Why listen?
What have I gained from it?
Why is it entertaining?
Why am I better from it?
Those are the things that wetry to think of when bringing
you content.
So, if you are looking to do aninterview, we would love to

(15:46):
interview you.
There is no one out there inthe shed world that makes their
living in this space that wedon't want to talk to.
We would love to talk to you,whether you are a seller,
manufacturer, hauler, productprovider, service provider or
something we're just simply notaware of.
Love to discuss with you andbring content to the table that

(16:07):
is valuable for our listeners.
So, check that off the to-dolist.
I don't know if you guys arelike me, but a lot of times I
like to write down these littlemini lists here for the simple
dopamine boost that I getwhenever I get, to mark
something off and show it ascomplete.
So, what else?
The office?
The office is what you seebehind me.

(16:29):
It's very unusual.
It's an old church.
It's actually an old church ofGod.
There's two church of Goddenominations that we're aware
of.
One is a charismatic movementout of Cleveland, Tennessee.
One is out of Anderson, Indiana, which is more, if I understand
and I could be wrong here butmore like Lutheran or Methodist

(16:52):
or something along those lines,traditionally, in terms of the
way the nomination works.
We bought this church and weturned it into our office.
Our son, as you guys know, Troy, works for us, Aaliyah, my
daughter, works for us and then,of course, Deanna works with me
.
So, we're all here working andwe fixed up this wing and you
can even see it For those of youwho are viewing this on YouTube

(17:15):
.
This is my office.
This is where I do my workevery day.
I know you can't see everything, but I do have my nice little
cup collection back here andthis is my home.
Come in here every day and uh,focus on podcasting and other
tasks.
We have a another office forthe marketing just across the
river, uh, in Paducah, Kentucky,above the Mellow Mushroom

(17:37):
building, the old Coca-Colabottling plant.
If you're ever in town, youshould definitely come see us
both.
Uh, Dylan and his guys areheavily at bat over there.
Uh, and then our marketing Imean our rent on operations uh
take place out of both Ohio andPennsylvania.
So, um, yeah, just love todiscuss any of you that are ever

(18:00):
wanting to come by.
There's plans for this.
But that kind of goes along withmy thought process of like,
what does the future hold?
And for those of you who arereading articles, columns in the
shed business journal,definitely go check out the one
I just submitted.
It'll be.
I don't know when it'll be out.
The due date was August 15th,so I'm assuming it'll come out

(18:23):
September, October, right beforethe show.
But I kind of talk aboutdirection and knowing the
direction that you're going.
You know what are you hoping toaccomplish and what is the,
what is the destination in whichyou're running to.
And when I think about that I'mkind of preaching to myself no
pun intended, because we're inthe church here, but definitely

(18:49):
a lot of thought goes behind.
You know what direction are wegoing Marketing, e-com.
You know rent-to-own finance,podcasting, advertising for the
industry.
You know what else can be done.

(19:10):
Strongly considered putting asales force together, because
the one thing I hear repeatedlyfrom folks that both do
marketing, with us or without us, is trying to figure out how to
be better closing leads.
We've sold before, I have soldbefore and very comfortable with
it.
But the question is, can we bemore helpful?
Can we be more beneficial byhelping close those leads?

(19:30):
So, there's a lot of questions.
I'm even asking on the ShedSales Professionals page to kind
of guide what that effort wouldlook like.
And then, of course, pray aboutit and see where God takes it,
because I believe 100% that anymove that you make without God's
blessing will not be blessed.
But even the hardest and mostdifficult things that you do

(19:52):
with his blessing strangely finda way to happen, and I believe
the Bible talks about that.
It says that obedience isgreater than sacrifice.
It matters not what you lose,it matters that you listen and
that you're obedient.
And he amazingly finds ways toopen doors that I had no idea
how to even get open.
So that's the office.

(20:14):
You see it here.
I wish I could show you around.
Maybe we'll do a little videoif you're interested.
It's just been part of thejourney.
This church is actually here inmy hometown of Metropolis.
So, um, we, we bought it and um, that's what we're doing.
You're more than welcome tocome join us.

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Shed Geek (22:13):
We'd like to hit the road again.
Many of you know that we've hada grandbaby.
We've got a grandbaby on theway again.
So, times two, a couple littleum, Cecilia Rose and, uh, Violet
Marie.
Violet will be here in in theNovember, uh, beginning of
December, so that'll keep us offthe road for a little bit, but

(22:35):
we do plan on getting back inthe RV next year and getting
back on the road Some more.
Um, love to come see you guys,love to come see your shops,
love to get the drone up in theair.
Just celebrate you in whateverway that we can.
So, uh, GPS destination whatdirection are you going?
I jumped the gun, and I alreadytalked about it.

(22:56):
So, dopamine boost let's checkthat off of there.
Advertisers oh, let's talkadvertising.
Advertising on the podcast.
You know there was a time whereit was my sole income.
I can think back tointerviewing Jonathan Orrick
where we talked about evendisclosing the amount of money

(23:19):
that the podcast makes and beingjust very transparent with how
we were going, stepping out intofaith and literally watching
God help put things into motion.
And yeah, it's been prettygnarly because I went from
having to jump out in faith andrely on the audience

(23:43):
participation and theadvertising to now adventuring
into these other areas that arestabilized and providing, you
know, income to the point wherewe don't have to see the
advertising as a means of makingit.

(24:04):
That said, my goal at one pointwas to see if I could just give
advertising away for free toproduct, whether you provided a
product or whether you provideda service, and I just think that
free is what you, you know youget what you pay for there, and

(24:25):
I believe that it devalues theentire platform.
So, what we did was slash theprices by about 60, 70%.
So, if you've ever thoughtabout advertising, I'm more than
happy to put you in touch withsome of the advertisers who've
seen phenomenal results from it.
Some haven't seen phenomenalresults from it.
I get in front of the sameaudience every time, so

(24:50):
sometimes I struggle, you know,with that.
Obviously, advertising does twothings In my opinion it brings
awareness, keeps you top of mind.
I think it's Henry Ford thatsays you know a person who
thinks they're going to savemoney by you know a business is
going to save money by notcontinuing to advertise as a
fool.
I am not saying that.
That's you know.

(25:12):
I don't even know if he saidfool, maybe I'm.
Maybe I'm misremembering thequote, but allow me to
paraphrase, if you will.
Basically, the founder of Fordsays you should advertise.
Well, that's something that wetalk with people about in
marketing, and understanding thedifference in advertising and

(25:32):
marketing are two totallydifferent things.
In terms of our audience reach,we do get in front of a lot of
people in the shed industry andI've had many of you tell me hey
, I started using this because Iheard about them advertised on
your show.
I'm sure you hear about itadvertised elsewhere too.
I think professional salescoaches say that it takes seven

(25:53):
touch points before a personactually makes a decision.
I think everyone, just to beclear and this is for those of
you that are invested inmarketing and Google ads and
meta ads you'll find this kindof conversation maybe
enlightening, but I believe thatyou should always be.
Advertising Sounds simplebecause I sell advertising.

(26:16):
Like I said, I'd love to giveit away for free, but I just
think you devalue it completelyif you do that.
The reason for it is because ifyou're trying to bring
awareness, it's one thing Ifpeople have no idea what your
product is.
I think about my good friend,Dan at Solar Blaster Fans what

(26:37):
he provides.
I think it's an amazing product.
He's been doing it for years.
He just hasn't really beenadvertising it.
He started advertising it hereand next thing you know, he's
got a booth at the expo thisyear.
I hope you guys will go see him.
I hope you'll tell him.
You heard about him on thepodcast, but my point being, you
know, digital shed builder I'mthinking about some of these
guys who came along theknowledge gap.
Joe Ignis interviewed him twoyears ago.

(26:58):
Now he's speaking at Shed CellSummit.
You know, I think about how likesome of these things have come
together, and the reality is,I've had some folks tell me we
advertised with you and you madeup half of our sales this year
because of the leads that camefrom you.

(27:18):
I've had others that say I'venever gotten a lead, and I think
it comes down to like provingthat lead.
So, we can talk about that forjust a minute.
I'm amazed.
I'm amazed at companies thatare multimillion dollar
companies that don't have gooddigital tracking, analytics and
things like that on theirwebsite.
I'm not belittling by any meansthose.

(27:39):
I'm saying I'm surprised.
Belittling by any means, though.
So, I'm saying I'm surprised.
You know, it's easy to like.
How do you know, if you look ata newspaper or magazine, that
that is what drove someone topurchase a product or a service?
What is the deciding factor?
You know those seven touchpoints.

(28:00):
You know I like to relate thatto striking a rock.
You know you can hit it sixtimes with a hammer and you see
no damage until you hit it withthe seventh one, and then it all
of a sudden breaks.
It's not the seventh hit, it'sthe sixth and seventh hit
combined.
That breaks this down.
Well, it's the same way when youpurchase things.

(28:20):
It's why Facebook is listeningto your conversations right With
your speaker on, and thenyou're getting advertisements
for those very things.
It's the same reason.
You're geofenced whenever yougo into an area.
Just watch, when you go to theexpo this year in Knoxville how
all of a sudden you startgetting suggestions through
Google and Facebook for localrestaurants and different things

(28:41):
there, because they'retargeting you because of your
location.
These are the same things we doNow.
We don't do that at the podcast, necessarily, but what I'm most
surprised at is like if someonesays, well, hey, we didn't get
a lead, but then you go and yousee no GA4 tag, no GTM.
You know no Metapixels, no wayto track the device ID, no way

(29:07):
to track the IP address and noway to know even what's coming
to your website in general, letalone what's coming from our
newsletter or who we're sending,and this all comes down to a.
It's a psychological thing, youknow like what is a driving
factor in making you purchasesomething?
Let's get out of sheds for justa minute.
Let's get into the car world.
What makes you purchase a car?

(29:29):
You know, has your carpurchasing journey been the same
every time?
You know, for me it's certainlydifferent now than it was back
in the 90s.
We look stuff up online now andwe try to get as much
information.
The 90s.
We look stuff up online.
Now.
We try to get as muchinformation as we can.
We look for places that looklike they're legit.
Now we have a local person thatI love to use and that's where

(29:50):
I think there's a lot ofstrength in being local, buying
local, being small, being adealer.
If you sell sheds that reallyinvolve yourself with the
community, gets involved withyour local chamber, does all the
things that are traditionallygood, but from a digital
perspective, it's way different,like you know.
How can you prove the moment inwhich something encouraged

(30:14):
someone to buy a product or aservice?
We know that the podcast hasplayed a big role in helping
those of you who sell productsand services, but I would love,
love, love for the audience tobe more vocal about that,
because that only helps me, ithelps them, it helps them track
and understand things more.
And, obviously, if any of youare ever willing to give a

(30:37):
discount to customers, I'malways about that, I love saving
people money.
So, if you're like hey heard iton Shed Geek, we got a discount
, now you can prove that itworks.
Otherwise, you have to use a QRcode.
I mean, if it's print media,you got to use a QR code.
That's really your only way totrack digital analytics, to find

(31:00):
out who's going on and figureit out.
And I know for some of youyou're like hey, I don't want to
be tracked, I get it, I totallyget it.
That is the world that we livein now, especially in retail.
Like I said, you'll startgetting ads for who knows, once
you hit Knoxville Just anydifferent city that you go to,
they're going to tag you, fenceyou in, start sending you stuff.

(31:25):
If you're going to use asmartphone, they're going to
advertise to you.
You can ignore them, you can doyour b est to block things, but
, generally speaking, that's whyadvertising exists.
You know it's people want toget in front of you, they want
to tell you about their productsand service.
Um, and that's one of the waysthat helps keep the podcast

(31:45):
going for us is to have thoseadvertisers, um, believing in
our, believing in our show, touh, to reach you guys.
So give us a shout out, makesure to tell people, tell me,
tell me, I'm happy to know.
I was at the Oklahoma bash and aguy came up to me and said hey,
man, I started using RTO smart,uh, heard about it on your

(32:07):
podcast.
And I immediately reached outto Phil Carsell-Lowey and said
uh, hey, thank you foradvertising.
Man, I just had X, y, z, youknow, company and representative
show up and say that theystarted, uh, using RTO smart
because they heard about youthrough the podcast and it was a
win-win-win.
So, I've had situations likethat several times over, but I'm

(32:31):
happy to be louder about that,and I would appreciate it if you
guys would too, becauseadvertisers pay money and they
love to know where their moneyis best spent, understanding
their ROI.

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Shed Geek (33:41):
Newsletter.
Obviously, you guys know wehave a newsletter.
I want to kind of break thatdown in a little bit of detail.
Basically, what happens withthe newsletter is we have a main
sponsor.
This year's main sponsor isShedPro.
Really appreciate them comingon.
I think ShedPro's got aphenomenal product.
I love what they're doing.
They're increasing with theirOps Hub.

(34:03):
We've got this newsletter wesend out to your email.
On that email there's all kindsof information in the
newsletter.
Every time an episode comes out.
There's ShedPro, right there atthe top.
It's a clickable link so youcan click on.
You can book a demo.
You can go to their website.
We have all of our services thatwe offer at Shed Geek.

(34:24):
We have a way to listen to thepodcast through audio there.
If you just click, we have away to view it.
If you click, it'll either goto Spotify or YouTube.
We have an episode registry.
For those of you that want to goback and find previous episodes
, let's see.
And then there is theadvertisers who are on the show

(34:45):
that particular day.
All of those are clickablelinks.
So, if you want to go find outmore about their information,
Monday's show, for instance, isJ Money.
That is our financial affiliatein terms of like offering
traditional financing let's see.
There's blogs and for those ofyou who want to write blogs, for

(35:07):
those of you who have servicesor products you want to talk
about more, you can do that.
For those of you who just wantto talk about your story in the
industry, we absolutely can dothat.
We'd love for you to writeblogs and we'll make sure to get
it posted on there.
And then there's what we callthe digital ads on the bottom,

(35:30):
which are all the same size.
Every one of them is the samesize.
Every one of them has aclickable link and this lets you
go and know more about theproduct.
It'll take you to a lead form.
It may take you to the episodewhere I interviewed that
particular person or company.
It may lead to their website.
It may lead to some discounts.

(35:51):
You just have to go and youhave to click on these things in
order for them to work.
Now, all of those things aretracked.
All of that is tracked, but Ido not sell that information.
If I have learned one thing,it's that someone will say hey,
Shed Geek said that you weresnooping around my website and

(36:14):
wanted to know if you wanted.
You know, wanted to know moreabout our product or service.
I feel like.
If you want to know more aboutit, you'll fill out the lead
form and I certainly encourageyou to.
But I don't sell thatinformation so that people can
target you.
Even if I did sell thatinformation, the only way I
would do it is if they did notreach out to you directly,
because I do not want you tofeel uncomfortable clicking on

(36:35):
things.
I want you to know that we takethat very serious and we
protect your information there.
Even if you're just snoopingaround, that's fine.
Good, go snoop, becauseeverybody wants to go and learn
about new products, new servicesand understand them.
But the question was asked andI wanted to talk about this.

(36:55):
The question was asked should Ihave a newsletter if I am a
dealer or a manufacturer?
Should I have a newsletter if Iam a dealer or a manufacturer?
Simple answer is absolutely.
There's so many platforms thatyou can do this on MailChimp,
activecampaign Email marketingto me still works really, really

(37:22):
good because a lot of peoplelove to be able to view things
at long periods of time ifnecessary.
So, what can these email dripcampaigns do for you?
A lot.
They can put you, your customer, in touch with your rent-owned
provider, sales after theservice.
Maybe there's someone who'snever bought from you.

(37:44):
But seven touch points, right?
Maybe that email is one of thetouch points.
Staying in front of youraudience, constantly just
reminding them that you're there, is a top of mind priority
because when it's time topurchase, you want them to think
of you and whenever you'resending them an email once a

(38:06):
month or maybe it's like hey, Iknow that you know you guys
stopped in if you've everstopped in before now and but
you didn't buy, now's the timeto buy because we're offering
10% off or five or 15 orwhatever percent off your
offering If you'll come in todayand just mention this
newsletter.
So absolutely you should bebuilding those things.
If you have questions aboutthose, feel free to reach out to

(38:29):
me.
If you need a professionalmarketing agency to do that,
more than happy to do that.
Your destination will determinehow involved you want to be
digitally, just the same as yourdestination and where you're
trying to go will determine whatit looks like when someone

(38:52):
comes into your shed lot, whatit looks like whenever you sit
back and dream about mission,vision and values and the
direction that you're wanting totake your company.
Maybe you're wanting to go from1.8 million a year to 3.7.
Maybe you've got a goal to sell$10 million in sheds.
Maybe you want to open up ahuge distribution center and be

(39:13):
able to have 600 dealer networkand sell over 300 million a year
in sheds.
I don't know.
What I do know is that yourdrive and your destination that
you set in front of you, thatyou gear yourself towards every
day as you come in, will be thedetermining factor, whether it's
brick and mortar or whetherit's digitally.
So we're there to help you onyour journey is the goal.

(39:35):
Speaking of marketing, I want totalk about that.
Guys, I absolutely love youknow you guys have met Dylan,
president of Shed GeekMarketing, Cord, our brand
strategist, Wyatt, who is justour CRM aficionado, if that's
the correct way to say it.

(39:55):
Genius, just absolutely genius.
There's so many more peopleworking behind the scenes that a
lot of times you guys don't getto see that I get credit for.
I just want to give a shout outto them, because those guys
work hard and they work sun upto sundown.
I've never seen a group of guyswork so hard.
Uh, I'm blessed to be aroundsuch an intelligent group of
people and, um, you know, we hada lot of growth.

(40:18):
I mean, if I'm just putting itvery frankly, I said in the SVJ
article in the column.
I want you to go read it.
I don't want to talk about ithere because you know I want you
to go and read it there ontheir platform.
But you know I talk about.
You know destination and whoyou're going with and where
you're going.
And what is your, what are youtrying to accomplish with and

(40:41):
where you're going?
And what is your?
What are you trying toaccomplish?
And the one thing that werealized really quick is that,
even though it sounds like astatement of arrogance and I
don't mean for it to gosh did weever learn some lessons from
opportunity and some success inbusiness measuring success in
terms of like influence, I guessof the show or just you guys
being willing to trust me?

(41:03):
We've never run an ad.
All the leads have been organicand we've now worked with gosh.
It's got to be 100 companies inmarketing and that really
blesses me because it lets meknow that you trust me, because
we're not just soliciting forbusiness, we're politely putting
it out that this is what we do.

(41:24):
We're giving information.
I believe in the Zig Ziglarmodel If you help others get
what they want, you can get whatyou want.
I know that there are some thathave just taken our advice and
we've never worked with orearned a dollar from.
That's okay, um, I don't likeit no more than anybody else,
but we're helpers, right.

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Shed Geek (43:23):
And that's the approach that we've taken toward
marketing is to be veryconsultative in nature, so we
don't just want to come in andcompete on price.
We want you to understand whatyou're purchasing so that you
can make the best decision,because, again, I don't want to
give too much of the articleaway, but I've said this on the
podcast before If you come to usand say you know we want to

(43:47):
invest in marketing, andremember it is an investment,
it's an investment.
It's the same as buying a twoby four and some nails and
putting them together and makinga shed.
It's an investment so that youcan sell it to make money.
Marketing is an investment too,and our famous tagline is we
should be making you more moneythan we're costing you.
So, if you're concerned aboutmarketing, just know for, month
to month, we do not hold yourdigital data hostage and you can

(44:11):
leave anytime you want.
We kill what we eat, and we'vegot to keep you happy, to keep
you in business.
That's the way we've approachedthis, and that's worked out
swimmingly.
For that reason, though,there's a couple of things that
we ask for commitments on, likeSEO, just because they take
longer to be able to prove, andif you're not careful, it can be

(44:32):
shady, and so we do all thenecessary reporting so that you
know what we do and all thatgood stuff.
Where am I going with this?
I got on a rabbit trail andlost my train of thought.
Um, for me, it's abouteducating you so that you know
what's best to purchase, becauseif you just come in with I, I

(44:58):
believe that people insultpeople things that they don't
understand.
So, if you don't understand, soif you don't understand it well
like whether it be AI,computers, internet technology,
anything if you don't understandit well, some people have a
genuine abstinence towards thesethings, and that's fine.
Maybe that's culture, maybethat's religion or whatever.
That's not here nor there.
What I'm saying is that, uh,people typically criticize it if

(45:22):
they don't understand it well,and we want you to understand it
well so that you purchase theactual right thing, so that you
don't waste money, which is thewhole key.
You know, I can't tell you howmany times we've run into
somebody charging a hosting feeof $400 a month on a website to
an Anabaptist member, when itshould be $400 a year, you know,

(45:43):
and it's just simply takingadvantage because somebody
doesn't know or doesn'tunderstand.
That's why we operate on a highlevel of trust.
We want to maintain that trustbecause we think that if you
understand what you're buying,that you'll make a better
decision.
Now we're there to guide youalong the way, but I would
rather you earn your businessnow and then have some good,

(46:04):
long-term relationship built offtrust that we didn't just try
to come in and grab a dollarquickly.
So, I'm happy with where we'regoing with marketing.
I think it's at 187% increaseyear over year right now, since
we've been doing it, we justclosed one of our largest deals

(46:27):
ever, selling well over $100million a year in sheds, and
we're responsible for that adbudget.
Right, we're responsible forhelping them grow, and that's
amazing to me.
That's just simply amazing.
God can only get the glorybecause, trust me, without him,
it's just we couldn't do it.
We couldn't do it.
Now it's up to us to put in thework right.

(46:49):
God gives you the tree.
He doesn't give you the bench.
You know they gave us the tree.
We're going out and carvingthis thing up and trying to make
it a bench and we're excitedabout it.
We're excited that we have theclient list that we've had in
the industry.
Um, we do our best to keepeveryone.
We know that some of that is onus, some of it's not, but we're

(47:10):
always going to give it ourbest.
RTO Josh and Justin you guys gota chance to meet them.
You know.
202 increase, I think it wasyear over year.
Um, thank you.
First of all, I started, evenfor the people who were like, oh
, you shouldn't get into rentdown.
Well, you know, I started inrent down whenever I was in the
podcast, starting the podcast, Iwas working in rent down.

(47:31):
Uh, I got out for a time.
I did notice that certain RTOcompanies were embracing us.
Certain RTO companies werewanting exclusivity, some
weren't, some were abstinent andstayed away.
That's okay.
We encourage anyone to come on.
I don't even care.

(47:51):
If you have an RTO company, youcan advertise on here.
I'll say it again we cannotpossibly serve everyone in RTO.
So, we know that there's goingto be other RTO providers.
We do not have it in our head.
Prove me wrong or call me outif you see something different
with me and the team that we'regoing to take over that space.

(48:13):
I don't think it's reasonable.
I think that would take atremendous amount of money and
like if you could acquire thatmuch in investment.
That's pretty amazing, and youknow what Maybe you deserve.
That spot is the way I look atit.
I believe that we aim to serveour customers Well.
I believe we do a good job.
I think we're happy to put youin connection with anybody else

(48:38):
that we work with.
The downside of growing is itcreates more growing pains,
right?
So now we've got to go out andfind and I'll tell you for this
fellow here, little old ShannonLatham, like having these
discussions, these bigconversations with people, um,
is really amazing.
Uh, just to be honest with you,you know, when you start

(49:00):
hearing numbers thrown aroundlike 50 and a hundred million,
it just seems like a differentworld to me.
Uh, and I'm just beingtransparent, being honest, I'm
sure there's some guys out therewith suit and ties, that's got
a good business model and a goodbusiness head on their
shoulders, that are just like,hey, this is just another day at
the office, as a matter of fact.
That's got a good businessmodel and a good business head
on their shoulders that are justlike, hey, this is just another
day at the office, as a matterof fact, that's just not for me.
That's not for me.
For me, this is like wow,that's amazing that I'd even be

(49:25):
given that opportunity to be inthose conversations.
So, for me, I don't take it asgot this all figured out, guys,
don't worry, I take it as I'mlearning along the way.
God's been providing with somecool opportunities.
You guys have been trusting uswith it.
So, you know, Josh and Justintop-notch dudes uh, love to talk
with you guys about rent to own, if you're ever interested.

(49:46):
One unique thing that we do andI think you guys are aware of
this is that we believe that,when it comes to dealer premiums
, believe in.
I believe in two things.
One, I believe that, when itcomes to dealer premiums, I
believe in two things.
One, I believe that they canthey're careful, you can get
into a race to the bottom.
I'm not insulting any companiesout there that are providing it
because it's their competitiveadvantage, but I'm hearing of
like 10% premiums in some placesnow and I'm astonished.

(50:10):
I'm amazed because I don't knowwhat kind of yield is left over
at the end of the day if wecontinue to go down that road.
And the one thing that we'vetried to do is provide a
service-based initiative ifwe're going to attempt to get
your business and the way thatwe've tried to do that is to
offset the cost of yourmarketing, because traditional
marketing in America is about 4%your annual total gross revenue

(50:35):
.
That doesn't matter if you'reCadillac, chevy Sheds, hucks,
gas Station, wawa's or whateveryou guys have up there on the
East Coast, it really doesn'tmatter.
Buc-ee's, you know, 4% of yourtotal gross revenue is very
common.
To apply that towards yourmarketing budget, your all-in

(50:58):
budget.
Some aggressive companiesyou're seeing 6%, 7%, 8%, 9%.
Insurance companies are a goodexample of that.
4% goes a long way in the shedindustry 0%, kind of get what
you pay for, right, but 4%pretty common.
Well, it just so happens thatwe're seeing those dealer

(51:19):
premiums kind of fall in thatcategory.
So, what we're trying to do isbe enticing by giving you a
better premium if you use themarketing as opposed to a cash
payout, because if you're justtaking a cash payout, it's who
can pay out the most money toget your business.
In my opinion, again, welcomeany rent on people to come on,

(51:40):
challenge these thoughts, give adifferent side, give a
different perspective, differentpoint of view.
I'm just simply giving mine.
But I encourage you to come onand if you think different.
Come on, let's have thatdiscussion, because I think the
audience can only be better forus having that discussion in
front of them.
But that's why we're we feellike you're going to have to

(52:02):
out-service, as opposed tothere's bigger companies that
can like out-pay.
They can just give you moremoney.
Work with us, it's a done deal.
We move on.
But we want to out-service andwe believe that if you're in
business, you're in business tomake money and you can make
money by the increase ofpremiums.
But what happens whenever thesecompanies eventually sell
portfolios, get out of thebusiness?

(52:23):
Somebody doesn't honor that,you know.
Your.
Your best bet is yourself.
So your best bet is to increaseyour sales.
Bet is to increase your salesand to me, one good way to
increase your sales is to nottake the low hanging fruit of a
five, six, eight, 9% dealerpremium, but to increase your
sales through sound strategies,marketing, proven systems and

(52:49):
processes that actually work.
So if you got into business toget a premium, as opposed to
getting into business to growyour business, I believe that
that benefit can best be done ifyou acquire that premium
through a service, and some dothat by paying for your 3D
configurator, paying for yourPOS or ERP, depending on what

(53:13):
you call marketing first of all.
We can have a whole discussionover on what you call marketing
First of all.
We could have a wholediscussion over just what you
call marketing in this industryand who overlaps in certain
areas, whether it be POS, erp,3d configurators, e-com, and

(53:33):
then, of course, you get intorent, on finance, all the
different stuff.
I just believe we got a goodgroup of guys.
We got a good company.
Certainly encourage you to giveus a call if it sounds like we
might be a good fit.
Excited to go to NSRA.
So thankful that Nick Gerardcame on, did an interview with
us.
Love that guy.

(53:56):
Just seems like he's going tobe brilliant in terms of taking
over as the general counsel andthe legal representation for the
NSRA.
For Ed Wynn.
He just seems like a really,really solid dude.
That's all I can really say.
Go back and listen to theinterview and I think that
you'll like him.
Two totally differentpersonalities, obviously, but
certainly looking forward tohaving a long-standing

(54:17):
relationship with Nick and thoseof you who are in the
rent-to-own world I'm sure youfeel the same way.
He just seems like a reallysolid guy and really what
they're doing with the NSRAseems to be pretty awesome.
Looking forward to this year'sspeaker.
They have a membership optionnow.
This year's speaker, they havea membership option now.

(54:40):
Yeah, it's just.
It seems like the industry isgrowing up and getting more
organized.
You see that with the ShedSales Summit, we'll get to that
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Shed Geek (56:15):
And the next conversation here from my little
dopamine rush checking offthese boxes the shed hub.
Obviously, you guys know thatwe do marketing.
Marketing is a lead generationtool, and guess what shed hub is
?
It's a lead generation tool.
That's why we decided to investinto it.
There are a lot of peopleworking on the back end of that

(56:36):
right now to increase theknowledge and reporting in terms
of tracking analytics.
I stand today saying thatShedHub has the best online
presence in terms of SEO andgetting in front of the actual
two-sided marketplace, which isthe customer, and I believe that

(56:57):
that's why it made sense for usto buy into ShedHub and become
an owner.
It was simply for the purposeof we have the other side.
We have the two-sidedmarketplace, which is the
industry with the podcast.
So, those of you who have triedit, if you didn't find success,
I want to talk to you becausewe are heading in a direction

(57:19):
where I think it's going to bereally, really nice over maybe
three or four months.
It may be post expo before wecan really get all the bugs
worked out, but we've combinedforces and there's some really
smart people and I'm evenwilling to have them all on for
a podcast to describe in depththe details of what's happening,

(57:39):
uh, with coding if you're intothat kind of stuff uh, and all
the things that are necessary toreally make this a traffic
monster.
Look, at the end of the day.
I'll be just very matter offact here.
Shut up is a website.
It's not a new technology.
It's not an ai technology.
It's not an AI technology.
It's not something new.
That's unproven.

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Dotcom's been around now for 30years, you know, and that's all
ShedHub is.
It is a Zillow, it is aCarGurus, it is a you know auto
trader for the shed industrywith sheds, and it has the best,
most visible SEO out there,hands down, and I don't mind

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debating that with anybody.
What's the other side of that?
If I, Shannon, if I pay $39 amonth to get on here.
How's it going to help me?
And those are the things thatyou want to know and those are
the things we're working on, sothat you can see lead form
submissions and so that you canactually see what kind of
traffic's happening.
Because I can be wrong, but Ibelieve that leads are happening

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all the time right now fromShedHub and we just don't know
it because you can't prove it,because, again, people aren't
asking the right questions andyou're not going to hound your
customer on how they got there.
So You're not going to houndyour customer on how they got
there.
So, we're going to set up allthe necessary digital tracking
analytics and tools so that youcan see that, and we're going to
offer that through somereporting, because we really
want to see this thing go to thenext level.

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If you are curious about beingon, just go to geek G-E-E-K.
ShedHub S-H-E-D-H-U-B.
com.
That's geek G-E-E-K.
shedhub S-H-E-D-H-U-B.
com.
That's geek G-E-E-K.
s hedhub.
com.
You can sign up today.
You can sign up multiplelocations.
It's $39 a month and, guys, ifyou never sowed a shed, never

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sowed a shed.
This is something that Dylansaid and I want to echo this and
I have several times over Ifyou never sowed a shed.
The SEO value alone, ShedHub isoutranking.
90% of shed websites in the US,I mean in most cases they are a
first page search result,oftentimes a first placement

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search result.
On the first page.
They're indexed that high ifthere is a shed listed within
91%.
So, here's the beauty of it themore you use it, the better it
gets.
That's the genius, in myopinion, of ShedHub the more you
use it, the better it gets, thebetter experience you're going
to have for the customer and themore we're working on the back
end to tie in Shed Geekmarketing with ShedHub to make

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for the ultimate lead generationpossibilities.
That's what we want ultimatelyis to help you sell Shed.
Now is there a conversation I'vehad yes, I've had talks with
several CEOs, largemanufacturers, to say we're
holding out, we're waiting tosee where it goes, blah, blah,
blah, and even some who havesaid you know, if you would just
give it away for free and thenwe can give you a percentage of

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the sale, look, if we're goingto do that, we're going to get
back into selling sheds, whichmay be a possibility.
I mean, who knows, maybe we justneed to create a team to do
that, or maybe we need to bringyou the lead and then just get
paid for the lead.
We believe that thesubscription cost is so friendly
if you're a manufacturer at $39a month that it's going to

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benefit you for the SEO valuealone.
If you never got a shed cell onit and you paid $480 a year,
you're getting placed at the top, which I don't know if you can
ever really tell that you're notgetting a shed cell off of it,
because it is indexing so wellthat people are seeing your
sheds.
We just need to get to thepoint where we can provide that

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digital tracking data and that'swhat we're working on in the
background.
So, I'm going to try to do anepisode over Shed Hub with all
the personalities involved.
There's probably 15 peopleworking behind the scenes on
this that you don't see and Iurge you to consider that.
$39 price tag is a steal rightnow and it can only benefit you

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more.
One sale you break even.
One sale for the average priceof a $7,000 shed at 10%, 700
bucks.
So, one sale at $480 a year,geekshedhub.
com.
I promise you it's worth it andit's only going to be getting
bigger because we're going tocontinue to do things as
necessary in the back.

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How I'm in 54 minutes into anepisode on a monologue, I'll
have no idea.
I want to talk about the ShedSales Professionals page.
I would love and I'm probablygoing to put something out
pretty soon.
I would love to do I'm probablygoing to put something out
pretty soon.
I would love to do a peer grouppodcast.
So, all the questions that youhave.
I've got a zoom account.

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I don't remember how many I canfit on there 250 people,
obviously, we can't all talk ifyou get 250 people on there, but
if we could get 10, 12, 20people on, we may even start
doing that, like once a month,where you can come on the
podcast.
You can join the Zoom call.
You could be on the podcast.
I'll create some questions orwe'll create some questions on

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the Shed Sales Professionalspage.
I'll put the link on there and,for any of those of you who
could join, you could get onthere and you could ask
questions in real time.
We've been talking for a longtime about trying to create a
marketing initiative that wouldbe beneficial for dealers,
because the one thing that wefind is that it's difficult for
dealers to be able to pay foradequate marketing services,

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even sometimes the initial partsto get started Right.
And I mean, if you're selling amillion a year and you're at
10%, you got a hundred K by thetime you look at your P and L at
the end of the year, you'repaying $5,000 or $2,000 a month,
or whatever it is, for lot rent.
You have all your expenses, youhave your base income.
There's just not a whole lot ofroom left to run ads.

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You know, build a website, havea decent ad budget, pay for SEO
.
So, there's ways that we'retrying to provide value of
things that if you're interested, you can take those things on,
go to task, take them onyourself, try to save yourself
some money just by doing it.
Just make sure that you don'tsay I can do it cheaper myself,

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because we all know noteverybody can do it cheaper than
themselves.
There is a cost to informationor the cost of knowledge, and
that's why you're paying apremium for agency work.
But I would love to interview10 or 15 of you guys at once.
Just get on there and askquestions.
Maybe you're asking questionsabout rent.
Maybe you're asking questionsabout return.
Maybe you're asking questionsabout finance.

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Maybe you're asking questionsabout marketing.
Maybe it's podcasting, maybeit's the industry in general,
maybe it's a particular service.
Maybe we can have a couple ofdifferent service and product
providers on there to talk abouttheir products and you can ask
them questions in real time, andmy thought is that that content
would be very beneficial forthose of you who are listening

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and you want to know, you wantto see the product or you're
trying to figure out whatproducts or services you can add
.
So Shed Sales Professionalspage keep an eye on that Shed
Sales Summit.
I can't say enough about PeterMiller making sales simple and
the guys stepping out into faithto be vulnerable and provide
something that is not gettingthem rich by any means.

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It is a service to the industry, where they would love to see
us level up as a whole on shedcells and can't say enough good
about that.
If you're not going to the expo,I encourage you to go.
Shed cells summit is going tobe that Monday, the 21st in
September.
The NSRA polls directly thefollowing day, Tuesday, for

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those of you who want to knowmore about rent to own, and then
, of course, the trade show ison the floor Wednesday and
Thursday, which includes a lotof educational segments.
So, I encourage you guys to getout and go to those things.
It only makes for a bettertrade.
Ultimately, shed Hauler bash iscoming up uh, that's in Texas
this year.
I know there's a couple otherslike southern Indiana bash

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that's happening on the sea.
The shed expo is happening, uh,24th and 25th September.
24th and 5th uh, NSRA's 23rd ofSeptember.
Shed Sales Summit the 22nd oh,go vote.
I'm going to put out there onthe Shed Sales Professionals and
I'm going to put in ournewsletter an opportunity to go

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vote, because that's one thingthat they're doing at the Shed
Sales Summit they're giving awaythree awards for those who are
doing different things in theindustry.
I think we should celebratethose who are putting in the
effort.
So, I encourage you guys to govote, vote, vote for those that
you think are making adifference in our industry.
The Roll Former Show that's atotally different show.

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That's a Shield Wall Mediaevent.
October 1st and 2nd, Dayton,Ohio.
We're going to be there withthe Steel Kings.
Yes, shad Hall, our barbecue,southern Indiana cliff net.
That is on, according toFacebook, October 13th.
It's a Monday this year, whichis different, because they
usually have that on a Saturday,uh, and then the shed hauler

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bash the one that's, uh, every18 months.
It's going to happen in templeTexas this year on September or
October, rather October 16th and17th Uh, that is in Temple
Texas.
Go to the Shed Haulers privateFacebook group.
Sign up to be a member there sothat you can find out more
information, I think sometime inNovember.
It hasn't been released yet.

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I'm on a Zuma barbecue for theShed Haulers, yeah, and then our
travel is done for the yearbecause we got a grand baby
coming, so just trying to makesure to get all this stuff in
there, guys, yeah, and then ourtravel is done for the year
because we got a grandbabycoming, so, um, just trying to
make sure to get all this stuffin there.
Guys, I can't say enough.
Please, please, please, go tothe newsletter, click on things.

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Talk to people.
Tell them that you boughtbecause of, uh, the podcast.
If that is in fact true, we saythank you.
We've always tried to.
You know, we've kept the showfree for that purpose.
There's no, there's no payingfor it.
Hope that you guys just enjoythe content that exists here
today.
Sometimes I think it's going tobe hard to get on the talk for

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40 minutes and I realize I'vetalked for an hour already.
So, year five in year five,march will be the start of year
number six for the podcast.
We'll definitely be somewhere400 episodes plus.
At that point I continue to saythank you enough.
I've had some people say youdon't have to say thank you all
the time I do Thank you, thankyou.

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The Lord, first and foremost,has given me the opportunity,
and I thank my family and Ithank you guys for letting me
live out a really fun Career, areally fun job, where I can get
on here and discuss thoughts andideas and put together ways for
us to communicate better.

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I'm just overjoyed with theopportunity.
Has it become more of a jobthan a passion.
Yes, I think it's hard todismiss that.
At first I did it, you know,just because, just because then
it turned into a job and at onepoint, because I had no choice,
it turned into a job.
But now it's kind of becomejust synonymous with who I am.

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And we've talked about doingother podcasts, but the Lord
just always keeps bringing meback here and until you guys
just absolutely are tired ofhearing me or hearing from
others in this industry, we justwant to keep doing this.
We're thankful.
My family is thankful.

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It has been a blessing to us asa whole.
For me individually, trying tofind my purpose has served as a
huge part of my why and why do Iget up every morning?
Why do I do what I do?
Um, it could have been anyother industry.

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The Lord decided to make it theshed industry and I'm thankful
for that.
Because of the faith that wesee that is expressed in this
industry so many times.
Again, I know that it doesn'tcome without its share of bumps
and bruises and, uh,difficulties through competition
, through just flesh, through usnot getting along with each
other.
I'm always going to be aproponent for people to get

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along overcome, apologize,reconcile, do all the things
necessary as possible to comeback together and operate in the
spirit of cooperation asopposed to a spirit of anxiety
and angst and just not gettingalong and all those things that
Satan finds a way to creep inand create those problems.

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I know that we have somehigh-strung personalities and
very strong-willed people andthat's okay.
You know, God loves them tooand he directs the future,
although we make our plans.
So, yeah, it's been a funmonologue.
I didn't think I'd talk forover an hour today, but I have.
I guess that is a testament tothe fact that I maybe talk too

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much, I don't know.
But I thank you, shed industry.
I thank you to my family.
They're the ones that's goingto be editing this.
I certainly appreciate all ofyou guys, the opportunity you've
provided and, as long as youguys see it as beneficial and

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you seem to based off thenumbers oh, I didn't even talk
about real quick the call-inlandline.
There's advertising thereopportunity as well.
So go listen to it If you guysever want to just check it out
and go listen to the podcastdial 330-997-3055.

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That's 330-997-3055.
And you can listen to what theplaying communities here
wherever they call in.
There are some advertisingspots that are available.
If you guys want to know moreabout it, obviously reach out to
me.
We get about 400 call-ins perweek or per show from the

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playing communities, so that's away to advertise to them.
Sorry, playing community folks,if I'm wearing you out with that
.
Uh, we're just trying toprovide you with as much
information as we possibly canand we thank you guys for
calling in and listening.
Uh, it's kind of neat.
You can even save your placeand go back and listen to future
episodes or places that youwere before you get cut off.

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So, um, uh, thank you guys.
You get cut off.
So, thank you guys.
I think I'll say a quick prayer.
I'm going to get out of herebecause my day is just about
done.
So, thank you, lord, for thisopportunity.
Thank you for the listeners.
I ask that you'd bless them,wherever they are today.
God, friend and foe,competitors and collaborators

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all let them prosper.
But before anything, all letthem prosper.
Uh, but before anything, letthem know you, let them know the
sovereignty of the Lord, JesusChrist and the salvation, um,
that he set forth in John three,16 to come and take our stripes
and that he would be sent herefor our eternal salvation.

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We just ask that, um, you'dbless each one of the listeners
and their business endeavors asthey move forward throughout the
day.
Bless the industry as a whole,keep us protected, help us to be
better, help us to do better,help us to be kinder in business
, and all these things we'reasking in Jesus name.

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Thank you, guys so much.
I appreciate it.
Come see me and metropolisanytime you want.
If not, maybe I'll see you whenI'm out there on the road
sometime.
Thank you, guys.
Have a good day.
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Thank you and have a blessedday.