July 23, 2025 • 54 mins
What does it take to build a successful shed transport business from scratch? For Daniel Yoder, founder of GDR Transport / Shed Movers, the answer lies not just in logistics and equipment, but in something far more fundamental—personal development.
Daniel's journey begins far from the shed industry, with military service in the 82nd Airborne Division and deployment to Afghanistan in 2009-2010. Through an unexpected opportunity, he received CDL training courtesy of the military, though at that point, hauling sheds wasn't remotely on his radar. Fresh from deployment and focused on healing, Daniel initially pursued biblical studies at Liberty University while working at a lumber yard. A series of connections eventually led him to drive for a shed manufacturer before taking the leap to start his own transport business in 2016.
With remarkable candor, Daniel shares how he launched his business with minimal savings, securing financing for equipment—a move he describes as potentially "dangerously stupid" yet born from the confidence his military experience and newfound independence had instilled. Now in his tenth year with multiple trucks on the road, he reflects on the growth that's occurred not just in his business but within himself.
The podcast delves into powerful metaphors that have shaped Daniel's philosophy: people as tea bags that reveal their true flavor when placed in hot water, the shed industry providing plenty of challenging "hot water" moments that reveal character. Through equipment breakdowns, difficult customers, and even a severe personal injury that required years of recovery, Daniel emphasizes taking responsibility for our responses rather than blaming circumstances.
For those in the shed hauling business or considering entering it, this conversation offers invaluable wisdom about maintenance practices, business relationships, and the mindset required for long-term success. Daniel's story demonstrates that sometimes, the path to professional achievement runs directly through personal growth and development—a journey well worth taking for anyone in the shed industry.
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Daniel Yoder (02:18):
Sure, and thanks so much for having me.
It's amazing what you do Again.
My name is Daniel Yoder.
It's amazing what you do Again.
My name is Daniel Yoder, basedin upstate New York.
Shed GDR transport, transport,sheds, shed haulers, primarily
for backyard outfitters, Startedin 2016.
So, this is my 10th year.
(02:39):
Lots of ups and downsthroughout the process, but
thankful for the opportunity.
It's just amazing how muchthere is to learn in the shed
industry and it's neat to seehow much growth I've experienced
in myself the last couple ofyears.
(03:01):
And really I think, as thispodcast goes on, that'll be one
of the themes that I would liketo highlight is is personal
growth, personal development,and really the neat thing about
that is you can't grow unlessyou acknowledge where you've
(03:23):
been, the mistakes you've made,acting like those things didn't
happen, not discussing them, notbeing transparent.
All of those things is a greatway.
If you don't do those things,it just stagnates personal
growth.
But I have two drivers that areowner operators, essentially
(03:47):
Marvin Beiler, Richard Abbey,then Henry is a driver.
I'm kind of rotating out as adriver a little bit more.
I'm on the road a couple ofdays a week and then I have a
part-time guy, Mervin.
So, when people ask how manytrucks we're running, I say four
and a half, and so when peopleask how many trucks were running
(04:07):
, I say four and a half.
Shannon (04:08):
I got you Now.
I didn't start there.
I was reading your story andmaybe I need to talk to you
about it off air or something.
But, man, I would love to beable to put your story in like a
blog or something like that inour newsletter for people to
read, for those who just enjoyreading.
But we'll discuss that laternow.
(04:29):
Let me forget that.
I'd love to talk with you aboutthat.
But how does your?
You know we probably weregetting started in this space
about the same time and, um, um,how does your story unfold?
How did you find the shedindustry?
How did you find shed hauling?
What did that?
What were the circumstancesthat brought that to be?
Daniel Yoder (04:52):
Back on now.
It essentially.
Essentially it started before Iwas working.
I worked in a plant in centralPA, but it really started before
that because I spent 13 monthsoverseas in the military.
Randomly the commander allowedme to go, my CO allowed me to go
(05:12):
and get my CDL at a CDL school.
So, I just had them.
But it's sometimes hard to knowwhere to start where to start.
Shannon (05:28):
I want to start there, just by asking, out of curiosity
were you in Army?
Daniel Yoder (05:36):
What branch were you in?
I was with the yes Army.
I was with the 82nd for threeand a half years active and then
I did like five more years inthe reserves 82nd.
Shannon (05:42):
That's in Georgia, right, Fort Bragg, North
Carolina.
I don't know why I always wantto put them in Georgia.
It's like the Screaming Eaglesup here.
The 101st is up here, close tous in Clarksville.
So you were in Fort Bragg, soyou were.
Now.
Was your MOS truck driving?
Were you an 88 Mike?
Daniel Yoder (06:01):
I was a combat engineer but we were an
attachment for headquarters.
So, when I was overseas, I dida lot of driving.
When we were there, 2009 to2010, we switched from Humvees
to these MRAPs that are like40,000 pounds and we drove them
(06:21):
all over the place.
I mean, we went.
Some of the roads were sonarrow that we had to be careful
because the side of the roadwould literally cave out when we
were going down mountain trailsand stuff.
So, about a year and a halfafter we returned home, my
commander knew that I wasplanning to get out and I think
they just had a connection or aslot somewhere.
(06:42):
And literally he just came tome one day and he's like you
want to go to cdl school?
I'm like sure.
And he signed off, relieved memy duties for a month, they paid
for it and that's how I got mycdl I'm completely convinced,
had I went active duty, thatit's me and our paths would have
taken the very similar course.
Shannon (07:04):
There's no doubt because I think about all these
guys.
You know I was graduated highschool in 98, and I was in basic
training that summer.
I was at boot camp that summerand AIT later and had I went
active and even in my reservestatus in the National Guard, I
(07:24):
would have really wanted to goactive but a lot of guys drove
trucks over the road and it'sjust, you know, the shed
industry wasn't what it was backthen.
Uh, you know, so like I didn'tknow anybody hauling sheds, or
it's amazing because I I couldsee myself going down that route
.
Uh, just out of curiosity,where'd you go to boot camp?
Or Leonard wood, Leonard woodand what?
Daniel Yoder (07:45):
year did you go?
Shannon (07:48):
2008, late 2008, 2008 so I went through Leonard wood
in 98.
So I went through about 10years prior.
Um yeah, c310, Charlie uh,third battalion, 10th infantry,
Charlie Company, and I was atthe top of the hill.
It was a time of my life I'llnever forget, because I just
(08:11):
remember being 17 years old andscared to death, you know, and
there was, like all these drillinstructors around me that, just
you know like, owned my world.
You know, one of the bestexperiences I ever went through,
looking back on it because ittaught me so much hello.
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Daniel Yoder (09:33):
Yeah, didn't really.
You just don't know what it'slike somebody to yell in your
ears so loud that it actuallycloses your ear up and, and you
know, spits flying everywhere.
Shannon (09:46):
Uh, that shark attack moment when you first get there
it's coming in on those cattletrucks, yeah, and getting
released out there.
I was the first one.
Um, I was first, yeah, likefirst.
Uh, I ended up being in 4thplatoon but of course, that
being the last platoon and I wasright at the beginning of it,
(10:11):
it changed my world.
It was a summer to never forget.
It was 105 degrees in the shade, it was terrible.
But at the same time, lookingback on it and I didn't respect
my service back then quite likeI do now I appreciated it so
(10:32):
much and what it did for me.
But it's a different world whenyou think about being in that.
So, I was just curious to getall that on air.
But thank you for your service.
I know so many people say thatas just a caveat, but greater
love has no man than one wholays down his life for his
(10:53):
fellow man.
And when you sign up for themilitary, you write a blank
check.
You write a blank check withyour name to say I will go out
here and serve people, I willserve this country and thank you
for that.
We'll get back on track.
So you got your CDLs.
(11:13):
Your drill instructor, yourcommanding officer, got you to
do that and you said OK, I'll gohaul sheds.
Is that how it worked?
Daniel Yoder (11:23):
No, I had absolutely no plans to haul
sheds.
I didn't even.
I was completely the opposite.
When I got out of the military,you know people are like you
gotta, you know, you gotta takesome classes, you gotta get your
degree.
When you get out, you gotta,you know, have a plan.
It's like I don't have a planand it was really the end of my
(11:43):
time in the military.
I got involved with thenavigators and was really
probably one of the most.
Those last year and a half isone of the times where I grew
the most in my faith and Iactually learned how to put it
into practice, how to live it,what it looks like, because the
navigators really tight group.
I mean we did everythingtogether almost in military
(12:06):
style.
You can look them up.
Their ministry is focused oncolleges and military bases.
So, they got me started takingclasses at Liberty University
and literally my plan was to getout and study the Bible.
That's it.
I actually I made it threequarters of the way to my
(12:29):
bachelor's degree in biblicalstudies at Liberty and you know
I'm literally I got out there.
There was.
I left home in a very badsituation that we won't get into
today.
Grew up conservative Amish.
There's just some things thathappened that weren't good, and
some of them were my fault, andI really needed to go back and
(12:52):
work on some of those things.
As hard as it is, it was theright thing to do.
So, I was taking Bible classes,just enjoying them, and there's
something about studying itopens your mind, you start to
look at things differently.
You have to research it, youhave to think about it.
That was new to me.
I didn't know how to do that.
(13:14):
I didn't know how to think onmy own.
So, it was just I mean, thetime of learning there was just
incredible.
And you know, I had a friendthat worked at a lumber yard and
he knew I had my CDO and hesaid, why don't you come work
with us?
And so I I said yeah, I'll helpyou out in a couple of days.
And the next thing, I know theywant me full time.
And the next thing I know theyput me in a, you know, a big
(13:36):
semi and I'm I'm setting trusseswith a crane I hand here.
You know I'm getting in deeperthan I want to get in and um,
throughout that process,somebody else I knew worked at
the local shed shop there incentral PA and, um, he enjoyed
it.
He enjoyed the I honestly don'teven remember I don't think it
(14:00):
was quite a year and the driverthat was hauling there one of
the drivers, got a different job.
So the owner came to me and hesaid do you want to drive?
You got your cd out.
I said, sure, um, so after thatI preferred staying in the
truck versus being in the plantbuilding.
(14:21):
So that's kind of how I gotstarted.
And so, I drove for again, maybea year or something like that.
And again, I don't exactlyremember the details, but I was
talking to the owner one day andI said, hey, you know, do you
just literally random?
Hey, do you need, do you needanother driver, because honestly
(14:43):
, I think I could do this myself.
And he says, yeah, we, we founda location in New York.
We've been looking for a coupleyears and we just found it two
weeks ago.
And then and I'm like, then Ilike get scared.
Okay, what did I just ask?
You know, where are we goingwith this?
Um, and then he came back andmade me an offer If you move to
(15:10):
New York which, interestingly,my wife's parents are from
upstate New York here.
Do you move here?
Help me get the shop started.
We moved in like September of2015.
15 you say you can.
(15:30):
You can plan to uh, buy a rigand start hauling sheds in like
March of 2016.
Um, there's a lot of detailsthat that happen in between
there.
That's who I started with isbackyard outfitters, but the
whole thing.
I mean I had absolutely no fear.
I don't know if it was acombination of just finally
thinking on my own, makingdecisions on my own and being in
(15:56):
the military.
You combine those things, you,you can become dangerously
stupid.
Um, but I mean, I was haulingsheds, you know if you do it,
but it was interesting because Ihad probably no more than four
to 5000 in our bank account andI think we were, we were just
(16:18):
married, money was not even mypriority and we were honestly
thinking that if I get to mybachelor's degree, I would go to
Liberty for seminary.
And again, I had no plans forpreaching, but I had looked at
possibly, chaplaincy work in themilitary and you know, just, it
(16:39):
was just kind of you know,seeing what, what happens in in
the next step and how thingscome together.
My time in the reserves.
I actually switched to chaplainassistant because I wanted to
learn more.
So, you know, really justdidn't have a definite plan.
This is what I'm going to do.
So, I had about four or fivethousand in my account.
(17:05):
I had a good reputation with thelocal bank.
I bought my first truck 2016Ram 3500, paid about fifty- two
thousand dollars for it and Igot a loan for one point.
Nine Went to Pine Hill.
I got a loan for the trailerbrand new trailer through
(17:27):
Foundation Bank and I went toUSAA got a personal loan for
like $35,000 for the bed and themule and all that, and I did
all this within three days and Igot approved for all three.
So I mean, obviously, if Ispaced them out, they wouldn't
have all gone through, so it wasmaybe $150,000, 145 for my
(17:50):
first rig.
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Daniel Yoder (18:57):
And it was a little scary because I started,
you know I bought the truck sixmonths kind of ahead.
You know I was making paymentsahead of time while the bed was
getting put on and so forth.
Yeah, beginning, I hauled about700 barns from the beginning of
March to like the end ofOctober, beginning of November,
(19:21):
and that was kind of thefoundation of, of, of where it
where it started.
And really, I want to get backto personal development because
I, I, I really marvel at howimmature I was.
I feel, you know, uh, some ofus sometimes have a late start
in life because of ourbackground and because we grow
(19:43):
up and we either learn fast, orwe just accept being stuck.
I mean that I wouldn't haveknown during those years because
I was learning so much.
My first airplane ride was tobasic training and the second
one I jumped out of.
So, things were just happeningso fast, and I was learning so
(20:07):
much.
I wouldn't have known it atthat time.
But now, looking back, I reallywas immature in a lot of ways
and I don't even know if I woulddo the same thing over now, you
know.
But you know I worked hard, andI did with what I had and what
I knew to do and really I justkind of had a modest goal.
(20:30):
I simply just wanted to have atruck and maybe two trucks and
haul some sheds and make aliving, and that was that was
about it.
But uh, you know, growthhappens.
Um, the second year, we neededanother truck and got a driver.
So, then 2017, so it was me andYuri.
(20:52):
Yuri Detweiler was my driver,and then two others, two other
owner operators working out ofthe plant here and the one owner
operator four years.
So, like two years later, fouryears into it, he decided that
he needed to do somethingdifferent and I said, okay, well
, if, if I find a driver, Iwould do it.
(21:16):
It's not that this is what Iset out to do, and it just so
happened that my brother-in-law,Richard, was available and I
said let's do it.
So, a lot of it has beenorganic and just taking the
opportunities that are in frontof it, but it's important now
(21:36):
I'm sure you've heard it saidthat when you're given something
, you need to manage it well orit will be taken away.
So, it's really where the focushas shifted to manage what we
are given.
And I think it was John MaxwellI was listening to the other day
who said talking about howpeople get to the top 10% of
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their potential and they love it.
That's they love it.
That's where they like to hangout, that's their sweet spot,
they get comfortable.
But he said going from an eightto a five or the top 3% is
sometimes the most difficult butthat is sometimes where the
absolute most growth and impacthappens.
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So that idea of personal growthand I was debating whether or
not I should say this, but Ithink I will I think they're in
the conservative culture, theculture I grew up believers.
I really think that a lot ofpeople unintentionally hide
(22:45):
behind their faith when it comesto personal development because
the thought process is well, Ibelieve in God.
I, you know, I believe in God.
He's all I need and that's true.
But there's millions of peoplethat pack out football stadiums.
They believe in football.
They're crazy about football.
They can pay money to go tofootball.
(23:07):
They're crazy about it.
They're not on the fieldplaying.
The people on the field playingare the people that have
developed themselves to pay play.
They have practiced hard,they've been working their whole
life.
So personal development isreally where the rubber meets
the road.
And if you think about it, whenGod created Adam and Eve, he put
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them in the garden, gave theminstructions, told them what to
do when they were disobeying.
God didn't come and stop them.
That was a decision.
They had the responsibility.
They were told what to do.
That was their decision to notobey, and you can follow that
through so many scenarios.
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There's a balance in that.
I'm not going to say we don'thave no responsibility and it's
all in our responsibility.
You know there's just a balancethere and and I can't tell you
exactly what that is Like youneed in your walk, you need to
figure out what that.
That's why it's called personaldevelopment.
(24:10):
Personal, you know, personaldevelopment.
So, it's, it's just so, it'sjust so powerful.
And the interesting thing aboutthat, I don't think I've maybe
I said it at the beginning, yes,I did that that your personal
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development.
Shannon (24:38):
I love the, the journey and everything that you're uh,
everything that you'rediscussing hits home for me, you
know, even down to yourchaplaincy work.
You know I'm a level twochaplain, uh, through the church
of God I was attempting to be alevel three.
I did work in faith-based drugand alcohol rehabilitation.
(24:58):
I have done some prisonministry and used to do local
jail ministry for quite a while.
And then there's other guysthat are in there now that I
know.
You know we just went to churchthis last Sunday with my aunt
and uncle and come to find outthat that pastor's been there
for 30 or 40 years is, you know,the chaplain for the Paducah
(25:24):
area, for McCracken County.
You know, just interesting totalk with those guys because the
one thing I found in my search,you know, was two-thirds of the
New Testament Bible written,you know, from a jail cell.
You know, like you know, Pauland Silas spending all the time
(25:45):
in prison, Hebrews 13, 3,.
Be with those in prison, asthough you're in prison yourself
.
And like all these things werelike hinting at, like you know,
even my father-in-law, whoworked in a prison for 28 years,
my brother-in-law, who's workedat one for over 20 years.
Like you know, I worked at ajail as a shift commander.
At one point my brother did, mybrother-in-law did, you know,
(26:05):
cousins of mine did Like all ofthat life was, and it's funny
because, like my father-in-lawsaid, he used to tell them, you
know, when they were in the jail.
The difference in me and you isI didn't get caught because
sadly that was the truth for alot of my life, you know, what I
mean was was, uh, there's verylittle difference between those
behind the bars and and thoseoverseeing those behind the bars
(26:27):
.
Sometimes that's more uh of athin line than you uh realize.
Um, yeah, it was just one ofthose things where I don't know,
chaplaincy was calling my nameand, uh, I don't think I was as
much on the police side, uh, ofwanting you know, of having to
(26:50):
do like the notifications ofdeath and things like that.
I feel so sorry for the guysthat have to do that, because
it's not just the families thatsuffer, even the people who have
to give that news.
I mean, that's taxing on you.
Mine was always, you know, jailand prison and trying to figure
(27:11):
out how we make a better society, and that led me into, you know
, I remember talking to oursheriff one time in small jail
here in metropolis holds 50people and he said you know, 49
people are here for drugs.
And I said what's the other guyhere for?
He said for stealing somethingto to get money to buy drugs.
(27:31):
You know, it's all said anddone.
You know drugs, you know likenonviolent crime is more common
than violent crime when we thinkabout jail and prison and
things like that.
So, it just took me down thisroad of addiction recovery and
looking at the epidemic that wehave in the world right now of,
like so many guys, I knew thatstarted out on prescription and
(27:59):
then couldn't get prescription.
So, they started turning intothings that they could get
illegally and that turned into afull- blown addiction, you know
, because their back was hurting, because they were off work,
because they severely injuredtheir back or something like
that.
And the next thing you knowthey're like how'd I get here in
three years?
It doesn't make any sense to me.
I can't.
I can't look back and makesense of the three-year journey
(28:20):
that I just took.
But of course and I'll digressbut the mentality is like just
lock them up, throw away the key, and there's got to be
something better than lock themup, throw away the key.
I mean, you know, 600 peopleget released from jails and
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(28:43):
If we're not doing anything tobe better as people, then why
are we locking them up and thenletting them out?
We're saying they serve theirtime, but did we?
You know, is it our job to tohelp them?
I don't know, I don't.
I don't want to, I don't wantto hijack the podcast and get on
that conversation too long.
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I want you to bring it back forme to to your, your next step
and what you did after after, uh, your journey ended there.
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Daniel Yoder (31:07):
Yeah, but it goes along with what we're talking
about, though, because in thosesituations, we all find
ourselves in those situationswhere we wish we could do more.
We wish we could.
We all find ourselves in thosesituations where we wish we
could do more.
We wish we could say more, domore.
But ultimately it comes back tothe question what are you doing
with you?
What you're doing with you doesmatter.
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That one fish you're throwingback does matter.
And, yeah, really want to getback to the shed haulers, and
there's a lot of shed haulersout there working very hard.
They come up against a lot ofobstacles and kind of this.
Next section here is probablyone of the most personal ones,
(31:50):
but have you ever heard thephrase that we're all tea bags
and we get put in hot water?
Our flavor simply comes out?
I haven't heard thatinteresting yeah.
So, you know we interact withcustomers or whatever happens
when we react negatively.
Um, whatever it might be,what's coming out of is is
(32:14):
simply what's always been there.
It's just, it's just.
And the shed industry will getyou in hot water, whether it's
an upset customer, it might berain, it might be a breakdown,
it might be somebody on the road, it might be customer canceling
I mean, the list can just go onand on and on.
(32:36):
It's a, it's such a neat joband I think that's really
something I've been learning inthe last four years.
Maybe it it what people do itlike.
I can never say it's becausethat person did that, my day is
ruined because that person didthat, my day is ruined because
(32:57):
my truck blew up.
No, I made the decision todrive that truck.
I should know what that truckis capable of.
I should know the miles on it.
I should know the maintenanceplan.
I should know that If my day isruined because of something
like that happens, it's my own.
It comes back on me.
It just doesn't work to say,well, that's you know, because
(33:19):
so-and-so, my day went this way.
Um, so we all get.
We all get it put in hot water,and that's where personal
development is so critical andit's kind of the foundation of,
of, of, of the rest of what I'mgetting into, what I want to
talk about, kind of losing myspot here.
(33:45):
But oh, back to back to hidingbehind things.
When it comes to personaldevelopment, I think there's
other things we hide behind.
There's Like I'll behind,there's like I'll.
When I come back from 13 monthsin Afghanistan, my mind was
wrecked.
It wasn't doing well.
It would spin Like I couldn't.
(34:06):
It felt like I couldn't controlit.
It.
It just I wasn't with it.
Yeah, if I would have taken thetraditional path that most guys
took, if I would have taken thetraditional path that most guys
took, where you know you, youget care with the VA and their
counselors and you've got PTSD.
You've got all this and the VAtries hard to help these guys.
(34:29):
But the core of the issue is oursoul.
What are we putting into oursoul?
Like our, you know, everythingfunctions off of how well our
soul is doing.
That's about the time I gotinvolved with the navigators and
I got into the word.
The idea isn't necessarily tofix it, you just got put
something better in it.
Your motor blows up.
(34:50):
You don't use the same.
You know you put some betteroil in it, you put something
better in it so that whatever isthere is going to leave and
it's not going to come back.
That's so.
That was a big, a big thing forme.
You know my and honestly, therewas a there was times, four or
(35:13):
five years into hauling, thatsome of these things surfaced
for me because I didn't reallyunderstand them.
You know, issues come up, thishappens, that happens and you,
you know, you think, well, it'sbecause of that person or it's
because of this person.
No, really it, it's what I dowith it.
(35:34):
And about midway through, I waskind of, you know, getting we
got, we just exploded.
So we were, I think I mentionedwe were about three trucks, 20,
so 16, 17,.
2019 is when we went to threetrucks.
Covid hit.
I had just gotten a backuptruck and we ran four trucks
(36:00):
during COVID.
I dispatched all of them.
I drove, the roads were wideopen, we worked nonstop.
I think we moved 2,700 shedsthat year and I was done.
I was.
You know, it's like when youoperate with a lot of pressure.
It's like a pressure cooker andthe smallest little thing
(36:21):
happens and it just sets you off.
I know shed haulers.
That cannot relate with thatcan relate with that.
There's so much pressure inyour life that it doesn't take
much to set you off.
And that's exactly where I wasand, honestly, my thought
process was this God could useme so much better if I was just
a missionary somewhere.
You know why am I stuck here,you know, doing this rat race
(36:44):
stuff.
God could just use me bettersomewhere else and that's
literally where I went with itand it was.
You know, I think it was wellintended, but I my personal
development wasn't where itshould have been and that's
literally what my plan was.
(37:05):
Heading into the Lancaster bash,when I won that bash truck and
I had actually the school I wasplanning to attend to, I had
just gotten word that they won'taccept the GI bill and this was
, like you know, the best thingever with winning the bash.
I'm going to use that to go toschool.
A month later I injured my legso bad that they don't know that
(37:25):
they can put it back togetherand you know, still today it
took three years for my leg toget to where I can get around
well and to where I think I'vekind of plateaued.
Now it's been a little overfour.
The last year, I think, hasplateaued, but it still has a
(37:46):
crazy attitude.
It some days it'll take an hour.
Actually, the other Saturday itjust.
It just gets stuck in themorning and you start moving it
and it sounds like grindinggears.
It was injured so bad that atthe very bottom they literally
wired pieces together on top ofmy ankle.
They didn't know if they wantedto put it back together or if
(38:06):
they just wanted to fuse it alltogether.
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Daniel Yoder (39:57):
That is not something I can hide behind,
that's not something I'm goingto hide behind.
Yeah, we, you know.
And back to I kind of movedaway from where my mind was
coming back from overseas.
These guys, I know them, I knowguys, you know they're, they're
, they're, you know, beendiagnosed with PTSD.
They've been diagnosed withthese issues and that's their
(40:19):
life.
They accept that this is whoyou are and that's.
They live with it, they, they,they.
You don't, we don't have to staythere, it doesn't.
I mean, and it's, it's hard tosay, but it doesn't matter
necessarily, like, I say it withgrace, like, whatever happens,
(40:40):
you don't have to stay there.
If you've ever seen the forgemovie, the guy that, uh, the
main, the main guy with thebusiness I forget his name had
his son, was killed by a drunkdriver.
The drunk driver got saved andhe ended up mentoring him.
This drunk driver had killedhis son.
You know, like, regardless ofwhat happens, like it's it's
(41:02):
usually, believe it or not forthe betterment of you, what are
you going to do with it?
Shannon (41:07):
yeah, we're going to all face trial and, um, you know
, I heard, heard.
There's a couple of things thatI wanted I write stuff down at
this point in the podcast that Iwant to come back and address,
because my mind begins to wanderif I don't.
It's hard, it's hard, it's hardto stay on track.
(41:30):
You know one thing I wrote down.
I don't know why I wrote thisdown, but I ran across this
recently thing I wrote down.
I don't know why I wrote thisdown, but I ran across this
recently and something that youwere saying talking about your
body and you know aches and allthat.
And I read recently wheresomebody said you're not a body
with a soul, you're a soul witha body, and that changed the way
(41:53):
I look at things a little bit.
You know, with personal careand things that are debilitating
, even that we deal withillnesses.
You know, one of the greatestmen of my life was bound to a
wheelchair through musculardystrophy.
You know one of the greatestexamples of man I ever saw, you
(42:14):
know personal deformitiesbecause of lack of muscle, loss
of muscle, bound to a wheelchair, and it taught him a lot of
patience and I'm willing to betthat some of the stuff that
you've been through over thelast few years from a medical
perspective has really testedyour patience and made you be
patient even in areas you didn'twant to you be patient even in
(42:42):
areas you didn't want to.
Daniel Yoder (42:43):
I was in bed for six months and I could.
When I got out of bed, my legwould turn right, purple like it
was, and it felt like it wasgoing to pop.
It was because it was so messedup, the circulation had
problems to go back and itwasn't even healed at six months
.
But the doctor said put someweight on it, start using it.
Just think.
Now my leg is made to be usedit's not made to sit around it
(43:10):
and our minds are made to beused by god, like, like I said,
he created Adam and Eve, gavehim instructions.
We're, by design that's ourdesign to be used to think, and
the more we do it, the strongerit gets.
And really, like all of this Ikind of wanted to say, before we
get into too much discussion onhauling sheds, because all this
(43:34):
has such a big impact in beinga shed hauler, I wish I would
have listened to something likethis before I started hauling
sheds, because really, you know,like I just went and bought a
new truck and a new trailer, Ididn't think about maintenance,
I didn't think about longevity,I didn't think about what kind
of truck I'm running what's bestand there's so many opinions
(43:55):
out there and honestly, you justneed to block all of that out
and you need to look at yoursituation.
What is the best for me, whatdo I like, what's my plan, who
am I, who am I working with, andsome of those things, because
it's so different in almostevery area that you go, it's so
different than this guy doesn'tnecessarily work for me and
(44:19):
again, we've been just soextremely fortunate to
organically developrelationships with mechanics,
different people that that keep,um, like we don't.
We're to the point where Idon't plan to buy new trucks or
trailers all of our trailers.
So, I have.
(44:39):
There's two that we bought atthe beginning of 2015, 2017.
There's another 2015 and a 2016Pine Hill and we just run them.
They're still in all goodcondition, but we're pretty
meticulous in how we use them,how we take care of them.
Meticulous in how we use them,how we take care of them, and I
(45:02):
mean we run them in the salt,but we literally we mix up
diesel and oil, we spray it onto keep the rust off.
Every winter, we go through allthe axles, we take out the
bearings, we replace all theseals.
There's a certain kind of oilby Mobile One that we found that
works really good for the hubs,and the hubs and the wheels and
the brakes are, you know, someof the biggest issues with
(45:22):
trailers.
You know there's somebody thatcares, takes care of our engines
and in all this, these things,I couldn't have figured it out,
I couldn't have come up with allthat, but it's just everything
Good at everything, Daniel.
Shannon (45:39):
Learn to be good at everything.
That's why we need other people.
Daniel Yoder (45:43):
I read a book this winter and I actually gave it
to everybody I work with.
It's called who, not how.
If you haven't read it,actually, Matthew Weaver had
shared a post about it andthat's how I got my hands on it
who, not how.
It is literally one of the bestbooks out there, besides the
(46:05):
Bible, because it's on this ideaof who you find a.
Who you do it yourself, youwill always limit you.
You will always limit you.
If you do it yourself, you willalways limit you.
You will always limit you ifyou do it yourself.
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Daniel Yoder (48:03):
If you find a who and you find somebody that has
done it, all of a sudden itchanges completely and it really
like in the Shed Haulers page.
There's one thing that sparks alot of conversation is when a
(48:40):
driver has an issue with a, themanufacturer or the company I
work for, before I even thinkabout asking for something
different.
Do I know for a fact that Ihave put my best foot forward?
Bring it back to me.
Do they know that I can get thejob done?
Are they aware of that?
What do your dealers say of you?
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Like, do they appreciate yourwork?
Talk is really cheap.
We can say a lot of things wecan get involved with.
Oh, that guy's done that.
You know, guys, what does thatdo for you and what does it do
for other people?
And like, and when we talkabout that a lot, the best thing
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and the absolute best thing wecan do is to know our jobs and
focus on our jobs.
It doesn't matter what thenoise is, that if we do a good
job, we will always have a job.
And you know I've, especiallythe last two years, I've gotten
numerous calls from othercompanies that would love to
(49:46):
work with us, but I turn themaway because we're happy, it's
not nothing against them.
But I'm not looking to turn intoa large company.
We have a good thing going andit's just so important for the
drivers to have that connectionwith the company they work for
and I think sometimes there's alack of communication where the
(50:07):
drivers don't feel appreciated.
There's not much communication,but that's not an excuse.
Why are you doing what you'redoing?
Yeah, are you doing basedthings?
Based off of the companytreating you the way you think
they should treat you?
Or you know why are.
If that's the reason you'redoing what you're doing, then
(50:29):
you're doing it for the wrongreason.
Shannon (50:32):
I wrote down a couple of things here that things that
have just stuck with me foryears.
You know, there's a saying thatsays people don't do things to
you.
People do things for themselvesand whenever you absorb that,
you start to look at thesituation differently.
They're not doing something tohurt you if they're doing
something for themselves.
(50:53):
If you get hurt in collateraldamage, I think there's a
certain amount of people thatare either okay with it or not.
That they're okay with it, justthat they can't do anything to
prevent it.
Like, in other words,competition makes us sharp.
You know, I heard somebody tellme like well we handle this one
area.
Someone else shouldn't get intoour area and try to service
(51:15):
that because we handle that areawell, well one.
It doesn't sound verycapitalistic, it doesn't sound
very American, and it doesn'tsound very free.
If they can come in and do itand do a good job, then that's a
good thing because it increasesthat competition increases us
to all be better.
So, while collaboration isbrilliant, it's fun and it's all
(51:36):
of these things, there is acertain level of competition
that keeps us sharp and makesfor a better experience overall
for everyone.
The thing is like if you'recalled to compete with someone,
it doesn't mean you're called tohate them, right?
Like we're shed haulers, orwe're shed haulers or we're shed
(51:57):
sellers or we're shedmanufacturers.
We're not gangs.
We don't have to hate someoneelse for doing something or
doing it well, matter of fact.
We can learn from it.
And then I wrote this downbecause you were talking about
hard work.
You know, which is the onlything that my dad taught me
growing up was really hard work.
You're going to have to workhard.
That's why I told you at thebeginning of this you know, I've
been a blue- collar guy most ofmy life.
(52:19):
You know I haven't worked inthese pristine, clean conditions
for years.
God's been really, you know,good to us and has blessed us to
do that, which is probably good, because my back can't take the
(52:40):
hard work quite like I used to.
I enjoy hard work, love it.
Work out in my yard all thetime, daniel, I work hard and I
love working hard.
I love breaking a sweat.
There's actually somethingabout it I enjoy.
I definitely mow my own yard.
I heard someone say the otherday there's three levels of rich
, you know, or wealthy, maybe isa better way to say it.
They said mow your own yard wayto say it.
They said they said mow yourown yard, pay someone to mow
(53:02):
your yard, mow your own yard.
And I thought that was veryclever because, like I enjoy
mowing my yard, even if I couldafford to pay someone to mow my
yard, I don't want them to.
I like it, I want to do it.
I want to do it the way I wantto do it, but you're talking
about hard work and I want to doit the way I want to do it.
But you're talking about hardwork and I wrote this down Work
yourself into a job.
You can literally, just by doinga good job, work yourself into
(53:25):
a job.
You don't have to wait onanyone.
We're taught this in thissociety that you have to wait or
that you have to go throughthis process.
College me and you just talkedabout the love of what you did
with Bible studies and Liberty,and you know I've got a buddy
who went to Liberty.
I was looking at takingbiblical classes myself online
(53:46):
at Liberty and he's a big partof why I started this podcast.
I'm going to be honest with you, but he sold sheds for me at
one point.
It's interesting, you know howthings work out, but you don't
have to ask someone's permission.
You can just go work hard andpeople will see it and they'll
notice it and they'll want towork with you.
(54:08):
Thank you for listening to partone of a two-part series.
Be sure to tune in next weekfor more engaging conversation
here at the Shed Geek Podcast.
Sure, and thanks so much for having me.
It's amazing what you do Again.
My name is Daniel Yoder.
It's amazing what you do Again.
My name is Daniel Yoder, basedin upstate New York.
Shed GDR transport, transport,sheds, shed haulers, primarily
for backyard outfitters, Startedin 2016.
So, this is my 10th year.
(02:39):
Lots of ups and downsthroughout the process, but
thankful for the opportunity.
It's just amazing how muchthere is to learn in the shed
industry and it's neat to seehow much growth I've experienced
in myself the last couple ofyears.
(03:01):
And really I think, as thispodcast goes on, that'll be one
of the themes that I would liketo highlight is is personal
growth, personal development,and really the neat thing about
that is you can't grow unlessyou acknowledge where you've
(03:23):
been, the mistakes you've made,acting like those things didn't
happen, not discussing them, notbeing transparent.
All of those things is a greatway.
If you don't do those things,it just stagnates personal
growth.
But I have two drivers that areowner operators, essentially
(03:47):
Marvin Beiler, Richard Abbey,then Henry is a driver.
I'm kind of rotating out as adriver a little bit more.
I'm on the road a couple ofdays a week and then I have a
part-time guy, Mervin.
So, when people ask how manytrucks we're running, I say four
and a half, and so when peopleask how many trucks were running
(04:07):
, I say four and a half.
Shannon (04:08):
I got you Now.
I didn't start there.
I was reading your story andmaybe I need to talk to you
about it off air or something.
But, man, I would love to beable to put your story in like a
blog or something like that inour newsletter for people to
read, for those who just enjoyreading.
But we'll discuss that laternow.
(04:29):
Let me forget that.
I'd love to talk with you aboutthat.
But how does your?
You know we probably weregetting started in this space
about the same time and, um, um,how does your story unfold?
How did you find the shedindustry?
How did you find shed hauling?
What did that?
What were the circumstancesthat brought that to be?
Daniel Yoder (04:52):
Back on now.
It essentially.
Essentially it started before Iwas working.
I worked in a plant in centralPA, but it really started before
that because I spent 13 monthsoverseas in the military.
Randomly the commander allowedme to go, my CO allowed me to go
(05:12):
and get my CDL at a CDL school.
So, I just had them.
But it's sometimes hard to knowwhere to start where to start.
Shannon (05:28):
I want to start there, just by asking, out of curiosity
were you in Army?
Daniel Yoder (05:36):
What branch were you in?
I was with the yes Army.
I was with the 82nd for threeand a half years active and then
I did like five more years inthe reserves 82nd.
Shannon (05:42):
That's in Georgia, right, Fort Bragg, North
Carolina.
I don't know why I always wantto put them in Georgia.
It's like the Screaming Eaglesup here.
The 101st is up here, close tous in Clarksville.
So you were in Fort Bragg, soyou were.
Now.
Was your MOS truck driving?
Were you an 88 Mike?
Daniel Yoder (06:01):
I was a combat engineer but we were an
attachment for headquarters.
So, when I was overseas, I dida lot of driving.
When we were there, 2009 to2010, we switched from Humvees
to these MRAPs that are like40,000 pounds and we drove them
(06:21):
all over the place.
I mean, we went.
Some of the roads were sonarrow that we had to be careful
because the side of the roadwould literally cave out when we
were going down mountain trailsand stuff.
So, about a year and a halfafter we returned home, my
commander knew that I wasplanning to get out and I think
they just had a connection or aslot somewhere.
(06:42):
And literally he just came tome one day and he's like you
want to go to cdl school?
I'm like sure.
And he signed off, relieved memy duties for a month, they paid
for it and that's how I got mycdl I'm completely convinced,
had I went active duty, thatit's me and our paths would have
taken the very similar course.
Shannon (07:04):
There's no doubt because I think about all these
guys.
You know I was graduated highschool in 98, and I was in basic
training that summer.
I was at boot camp that summerand AIT later and had I went
active and even in my reservestatus in the National Guard, I
(07:24):
would have really wanted to goactive but a lot of guys drove
trucks over the road and it'sjust, you know, the shed
industry wasn't what it was backthen.
Uh, you know, so like I didn'tknow anybody hauling sheds, or
it's amazing because I I couldsee myself going down that route
.
Uh, just out of curiosity,where'd you go to boot camp?
Or Leonard wood, Leonard woodand what?
Daniel Yoder (07:45):
year did you go?
Shannon (07:48):
2008, late 2008, 2008 so I went through Leonard wood
in 98.
So I went through about 10years prior.
Um yeah, c310, Charlie uh,third battalion, 10th infantry,
Charlie Company, and I was atthe top of the hill.
It was a time of my life I'llnever forget, because I just
(08:11):
remember being 17 years old andscared to death, you know, and
there was, like all these drillinstructors around me that, just
you know like, owned my world.
You know, one of the bestexperiences I ever went through,
looking back on it because ittaught me so much hello.
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Daniel Yoder (09:33):
Yeah, didn't really.
You just don't know what it'slike somebody to yell in your
ears so loud that it actuallycloses your ear up and, and you
know, spits flying everywhere.
Shannon (09:46):
Uh, that shark attack moment when you first get there
it's coming in on those cattletrucks, yeah, and getting
released out there.
I was the first one.
Um, I was first, yeah, likefirst.
Uh, I ended up being in 4thplatoon but of course, that
being the last platoon and I wasright at the beginning of it,
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it changed my world.
It was a summer to never forget.
It was 105 degrees in the shade, it was terrible.
But at the same time, lookingback on it and I didn't respect
my service back then quite likeI do now I appreciated it so
(10:32):
much and what it did for me.
But it's a different world whenyou think about being in that.
So, I was just curious to getall that on air.
But thank you for your service.
I know so many people say thatas just a caveat, but greater
love has no man than one wholays down his life for his
(10:53):
fellow man.
And when you sign up for themilitary, you write a blank
check.
You write a blank check withyour name to say I will go out
here and serve people, I willserve this country and thank you
for that.
We'll get back on track.
So you got your CDLs.
(11:13):
Your drill instructor, yourcommanding officer, got you to
do that and you said OK, I'll gohaul sheds.
Is that how it worked?
Daniel Yoder (11:23):
No, I had absolutely no plans to haul
sheds.
I didn't even.
I was completely the opposite.
When I got out of the military,you know people are like you
gotta, you know, you gotta takesome classes, you gotta get your
degree.
When you get out, you gotta,you know, have a plan.
It's like I don't have a planand it was really the end of my
(11:43):
time in the military.
I got involved with thenavigators and was really
probably one of the most.
Those last year and a half isone of the times where I grew
the most in my faith and Iactually learned how to put it
into practice, how to live it,what it looks like, because the
navigators really tight group.
I mean we did everythingtogether almost in military
(12:06):
style.
You can look them up.
Their ministry is focused oncolleges and military bases.
So, they got me started takingclasses at Liberty University
and literally my plan was to getout and study the Bible.
That's it.
I actually I made it threequarters of the way to my
(12:29):
bachelor's degree in biblicalstudies at Liberty and you know
I'm literally I got out there.
There was.
I left home in a very badsituation that we won't get into
today.
Grew up conservative Amish.
There's just some things thathappened that weren't good, and
some of them were my fault, andI really needed to go back and
(12:52):
work on some of those things.
As hard as it is, it was theright thing to do.
So, I was taking Bible classes,just enjoying them, and there's
something about studying itopens your mind, you start to
look at things differently.
You have to research it, youhave to think about it.
That was new to me.
I didn't know how to do that.
(13:14):
I didn't know how to think onmy own.
So, it was just I mean, thetime of learning there was just
incredible.
And you know, I had a friendthat worked at a lumber yard and
he knew I had my CDO and hesaid, why don't you come work
with us?
And so I I said yeah, I'll helpyou out in a couple of days.
And the next thing, I know theywant me full time.
And the next thing I know theyput me in a, you know, a big
(13:36):
semi and I'm I'm setting trusseswith a crane I hand here.
You know I'm getting in deeperthan I want to get in and um,
throughout that process,somebody else I knew worked at
the local shed shop there incentral PA and, um, he enjoyed
it.
He enjoyed the I honestly don'teven remember I don't think it
(14:00):
was quite a year and the driverthat was hauling there one of
the drivers, got a different job.
So the owner came to me and hesaid do you want to drive?
You got your cd out.
I said, sure, um, so after thatI preferred staying in the
truck versus being in the plantbuilding.
(14:21):
So that's kind of how I gotstarted.
And so, I drove for again, maybea year or something like that.
And again, I don't exactlyremember the details, but I was
talking to the owner one day andI said, hey, you know, do you
just literally random?
Hey, do you need, do you needanother driver, because honestly
(14:43):
, I think I could do this myself.
And he says, yeah, we, we founda location in New York.
We've been looking for a coupleyears and we just found it two
weeks ago.
And then and I'm like, then Ilike get scared.
Okay, what did I just ask?
You know, where are we goingwith this?
Um, and then he came back andmade me an offer If you move to
(15:10):
New York which, interestingly,my wife's parents are from
upstate New York here.
Do you move here?
Help me get the shop started.
We moved in like September of2015.
15 you say you can.
(15:30):
You can plan to uh, buy a rigand start hauling sheds in like
March of 2016.
Um, there's a lot of detailsthat that happen in between
there.
That's who I started with isbackyard outfitters, but the
whole thing.
I mean I had absolutely no fear.
I don't know if it was acombination of just finally
thinking on my own, makingdecisions on my own and being in
(15:56):
the military.
You combine those things, you,you can become dangerously
stupid.
Um, but I mean, I was haulingsheds, you know if you do it,
but it was interesting because Ihad probably no more than four
to 5000 in our bank account andI think we were, we were just
(16:18):
married, money was not even mypriority and we were honestly
thinking that if I get to mybachelor's degree, I would go to
Liberty for seminary.
And again, I had no plans forpreaching, but I had looked at
possibly, chaplaincy work in themilitary and you know, just, it
(16:39):
was just kind of you know,seeing what, what happens in in
the next step and how thingscome together.
My time in the reserves.
I actually switched to chaplainassistant because I wanted to
learn more.
So, you know, really justdidn't have a definite plan.
This is what I'm going to do.
So, I had about four or fivethousand in my account.
(17:05):
I had a good reputation with thelocal bank.
I bought my first truck 2016Ram 3500, paid about fifty- two
thousand dollars for it and Igot a loan for one point.
Nine Went to Pine Hill.
I got a loan for the trailerbrand new trailer through
(17:27):
Foundation Bank and I went toUSAA got a personal loan for
like $35,000 for the bed and themule and all that, and I did
all this within three days and Igot approved for all three.
So I mean, obviously, if Ispaced them out, they wouldn't
have all gone through, so it wasmaybe $150,000, 145 for my
(17:50):
first rig.
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Daniel Yoder (18:57):
And it was a little scary because I started,
you know I bought the truck sixmonths kind of ahead.
You know I was making paymentsahead of time while the bed was
getting put on and so forth.
Yeah, beginning, I hauled about700 barns from the beginning of
March to like the end ofOctober, beginning of November,
(19:21):
and that was kind of thefoundation of, of, of where it
where it started.
And really, I want to get backto personal development because
I, I, I really marvel at howimmature I was.
I feel, you know, uh, some ofus sometimes have a late start
in life because of ourbackground and because we grow
(19:43):
up and we either learn fast, orwe just accept being stuck.
I mean that I wouldn't haveknown during those years because
I was learning so much.
My first airplane ride was tobasic training and the second
one I jumped out of.
So, things were just happeningso fast, and I was learning so
(20:07):
much.
I wouldn't have known it atthat time.
But now, looking back, I reallywas immature in a lot of ways
and I don't even know if I woulddo the same thing over now, you
know.
But you know I worked hard, andI did with what I had and what
I knew to do and really I justkind of had a modest goal.
(20:30):
I simply just wanted to have atruck and maybe two trucks and
haul some sheds and make aliving, and that was that was
about it.
But uh, you know, growthhappens.
Um, the second year, we neededanother truck and got a driver.
So, then 2017, so it was me andYuri.
(20:52):
Yuri Detweiler was my driver,and then two others, two other
owner operators working out ofthe plant here and the one owner
operator four years.
So, like two years later, fouryears into it, he decided that
he needed to do somethingdifferent and I said, okay, well
, if, if I find a driver, Iwould do it.
(21:16):
It's not that this is what Iset out to do, and it just so
happened that my brother-in-law,Richard, was available and I
said let's do it.
So, a lot of it has beenorganic and just taking the
opportunities that are in frontof it, but it's important now
(21:36):
I'm sure you've heard it saidthat when you're given something
, you need to manage it well orit will be taken away.
So, it's really where the focushas shifted to manage what we
are given.
And I think it was John MaxwellI was listening to the other day
who said talking about howpeople get to the top 10% of
(22:00):
their potential and they love it.
That's they love it.
That's where they like to hangout, that's their sweet spot,
they get comfortable.
But he said going from an eightto a five or the top 3% is
sometimes the most difficult butthat is sometimes where the
absolute most growth and impacthappens.
(22:24):
So that idea of personal growthand I was debating whether or
not I should say this, but Ithink I will I think they're in
the conservative culture, theculture I grew up believers.
I really think that a lot ofpeople unintentionally hide
(22:45):
behind their faith when it comesto personal development because
the thought process is well, Ibelieve in God.
I, you know, I believe in God.
He's all I need and that's true.
But there's millions of peoplethat pack out football stadiums.
They believe in football.
They're crazy about football.
They can pay money to go tofootball.
(23:07):
They're crazy about it.
They're not on the fieldplaying.
The people on the field playingare the people that have
developed themselves to pay play.
They have practiced hard,they've been working their whole
life.
So personal development isreally where the rubber meets
the road.
And if you think about it, whenGod created Adam and Eve, he put
(23:30):
them in the garden, gave theminstructions, told them what to
do when they were disobeying.
God didn't come and stop them.
That was a decision.
They had the responsibility.
They were told what to do.
That was their decision to notobey, and you can follow that
through so many scenarios.
(23:50):
There's a balance in that.
I'm not going to say we don'thave no responsibility and it's
all in our responsibility.
You know there's just a balancethere and and I can't tell you
exactly what that is Like youneed in your walk, you need to
figure out what that.
That's why it's called personaldevelopment.
(24:10):
Personal, you know, personaldevelopment.
So, it's, it's just so, it'sjust so powerful.
And the interesting thing aboutthat, I don't think I've maybe
I said it at the beginning, yes,I did that that your personal
(24:37):
development.
Shannon (24:38):
I love the, the journey and everything that you're uh,
everything that you'rediscussing hits home for me, you
know, even down to yourchaplaincy work.
You know I'm a level twochaplain, uh, through the church
of God I was attempting to be alevel three.
I did work in faith-based drugand alcohol rehabilitation.
(24:58):
I have done some prisonministry and used to do local
jail ministry for quite a while.
And then there's other guysthat are in there now that I
know.
You know we just went to churchthis last Sunday with my aunt
and uncle and come to find outthat that pastor's been there
for 30 or 40 years is, you know,the chaplain for the Paducah
(25:24):
area, for McCracken County.
You know, just interesting totalk with those guys because the
one thing I found in my search,you know, was two-thirds of the
New Testament Bible written,you know, from a jail cell.
You know, like you know, Pauland Silas spending all the time
(25:45):
in prison, Hebrews 13, 3,.
Be with those in prison, asthough you're in prison yourself
.
And like all these things werelike hinting at, like you know,
even my father-in-law, whoworked in a prison for 28 years,
my brother-in-law, who's workedat one for over 20 years.
Like you know, I worked at ajail as a shift commander.
At one point my brother did, mybrother-in-law did, you know,
(26:05):
cousins of mine did Like all ofthat life was, and it's funny
because, like my father-in-lawsaid, he used to tell them, you
know, when they were in the jail.
The difference in me and you isI didn't get caught because
sadly that was the truth for alot of my life, you know, what I
mean was was, uh, there's verylittle difference between those
behind the bars and and thoseoverseeing those behind the bars
(26:27):
.
Sometimes that's more uh of athin line than you uh realize.
Um, yeah, it was just one ofthose things where I don't know,
chaplaincy was calling my nameand, uh, I don't think I was as
much on the police side, uh, ofwanting you know, of having to
(26:50):
do like the notifications ofdeath and things like that.
I feel so sorry for the guysthat have to do that, because
it's not just the families thatsuffer, even the people who have
to give that news.
I mean, that's taxing on you.
Mine was always, you know, jailand prison and trying to figure
(27:11):
out how we make a better society, and that led me into, you know
, I remember talking to oursheriff one time in small jail
here in metropolis holds 50people and he said you know, 49
people are here for drugs.
And I said what's the other guyhere for?
He said for stealing somethingto to get money to buy drugs.
(27:31):
You know, it's all said anddone.
You know drugs, you know likenonviolent crime is more common
than violent crime when we thinkabout jail and prison and
things like that.
So, it just took me down thisroad of addiction recovery and
looking at the epidemic that wehave in the world right now of,
like so many guys, I knew thatstarted out on prescription and
(27:59):
then couldn't get prescription.
So, they started turning intothings that they could get
illegally and that turned into afull- blown addiction, you know
, because their back was hurting, because they were off work,
because they severely injuredtheir back or something like
that.
And the next thing you knowthey're like how'd I get here in
three years?
It doesn't make any sense to me.
I can't.
I can't look back and makesense of the three-year journey
(28:20):
that I just took.
But of course and I'll digressbut the mentality is like just
lock them up, throw away the key, and there's got to be
something better than lock themup, throw away the key.
I mean, you know, 600 peopleget released from jails and
prisons every year, like yourcommunity.
(28:43):
If we're not doing anything tobe better as people, then why
are we locking them up and thenletting them out?
We're saying they serve theirtime, but did we?
You know, is it our job to tohelp them?
I don't know, I don't.
I don't want to, I don't wantto hijack the podcast and get on
that conversation too long.
(29:03):
I want you to bring it back forme to to your, your next step
and what you did after after, uh, your journey ended there.
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Daniel Yoder (31:07):
Yeah, but it goes along with what we're talking
about, though, because in thosesituations, we all find
ourselves in those situationswhere we wish we could do more.
We wish we could.
We all find ourselves in thosesituations where we wish we
could do more.
We wish we could say more, domore.
But ultimately it comes back tothe question what are you doing
with you?
What you're doing with you doesmatter.
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That one fish you're throwingback does matter.
And, yeah, really want to getback to the shed haulers, and
there's a lot of shed haulersout there working very hard.
They come up against a lot ofobstacles and kind of this.
Next section here is probablyone of the most personal ones,
(31:50):
but have you ever heard thephrase that we're all tea bags
and we get put in hot water?
Our flavor simply comes out?
I haven't heard thatinteresting yeah.
So, you know we interact withcustomers or whatever happens
when we react negatively.
Um, whatever it might be,what's coming out of is is
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simply what's always been there.
It's just, it's just.
And the shed industry will getyou in hot water, whether it's
an upset customer, it might berain, it might be a breakdown,
it might be somebody on the road, it might be customer canceling
I mean, the list can just go onand on and on.
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It's a, it's such a neat joband I think that's really
something I've been learning inthe last four years.
Maybe it it what people do itlike.
I can never say it's becausethat person did that, my day is
ruined because that person didthat, my day is ruined because
(32:57):
my truck blew up.
No, I made the decision todrive that truck.
I should know what that truckis capable of.
I should know the miles on it.
I should know the maintenanceplan.
I should know that If my day isruined because of something
like that happens, it's my own.
It comes back on me.
It just doesn't work to say,well, that's you know, because
(33:19):
so-and-so, my day went this way.
Um, so we all get.
We all get it put in hot water,and that's where personal
development is so critical andit's kind of the foundation of,
of, of, of the rest of what I'mgetting into, what I want to
talk about, kind of losing myspot here.
(33:45):
But oh, back to back to hidingbehind things.
When it comes to personaldevelopment, I think there's
other things we hide behind.
There's Like I'll behind,there's like I'll.
When I come back from 13 monthsin Afghanistan, my mind was
wrecked.
It wasn't doing well.
It would spin Like I couldn't.
(34:06):
It felt like I couldn't controlit.
It.
It just I wasn't with it.
Yeah, if I would have taken thetraditional path that most guys
took, if I would have taken thetraditional path that most guys
took, where you know you, youget care with the VA and their
counselors and you've got PTSD.
You've got all this and the VAtries hard to help these guys.
(34:29):
But the core of the issue is oursoul.
What are we putting into oursoul?
Like our, you know, everythingfunctions off of how well our
soul is doing.
That's about the time I gotinvolved with the navigators and
I got into the word.
The idea isn't necessarily tofix it, you just got put
something better in it.
Your motor blows up.
(34:50):
You don't use the same.
You know you put some betteroil in it, you put something
better in it so that whatever isthere is going to leave and
it's not going to come back.
That's so.
That was a big, a big thing forme.
You know my and honestly, therewas a there was times, four or
(35:13):
five years into hauling, thatsome of these things surfaced
for me because I didn't reallyunderstand them.
You know, issues come up, thishappens, that happens and you,
you know, you think, well, it'sbecause of that person or it's
because of this person.
No, really it, it's what I dowith it.
(35:34):
And about midway through, I waskind of, you know, getting we
got, we just exploded.
So we were, I think I mentionedwe were about three trucks, 20,
so 16, 17,.
2019 is when we went to threetrucks.
Covid hit.
I had just gotten a backuptruck and we ran four trucks
(36:00):
during COVID.
I dispatched all of them.
I drove, the roads were wideopen, we worked nonstop.
I think we moved 2,700 shedsthat year and I was done.
I was.
You know, it's like when youoperate with a lot of pressure.
It's like a pressure cooker andthe smallest little thing
(36:21):
happens and it just sets you off.
I know shed haulers.
That cannot relate with thatcan relate with that.
There's so much pressure inyour life that it doesn't take
much to set you off.
And that's exactly where I wasand, honestly, my thought
process was this God could useme so much better if I was just
a missionary somewhere.
You know why am I stuck here,you know, doing this rat race
(36:44):
stuff.
God could just use me bettersomewhere else and that's
literally where I went with itand it was.
You know, I think it was wellintended, but I my personal
development wasn't where itshould have been and that's
literally what my plan was.
(37:05):
Heading into the Lancaster bash,when I won that bash truck and
I had actually the school I wasplanning to attend to, I had
just gotten word that they won'taccept the GI bill and this was
, like you know, the best thingever with winning the bash.
I'm going to use that to go toschool.
A month later I injured my legso bad that they don't know that
(37:25):
they can put it back togetherand you know, still today it
took three years for my leg toget to where I can get around
well and to where I think I'vekind of plateaued.
Now it's been a little overfour.
The last year, I think, hasplateaued, but it still has a
(37:46):
crazy attitude.
It some days it'll take an hour.
Actually, the other Saturday itjust.
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and it sounds like grindinggears.
It was injured so bad that atthe very bottom they literally
wired pieces together on top ofmy ankle.
They didn't know if they wantedto put it back together or if
(38:06):
they just wanted to fuse it alltogether.
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Daniel Yoder (39:57):
That is not something I can hide behind,
that's not something I'm goingto hide behind.
Yeah, we, you know.
And back to I kind of movedaway from where my mind was
coming back from overseas.
These guys, I know them, I knowguys, you know they're, they're
, they're, you know, beendiagnosed with PTSD.
They've been diagnosed withthese issues and that's their
(40:19):
life.
They accept that this is whoyou are and that's.
They live with it, they, they,they.
You don't, we don't have to staythere, it doesn't.
I mean, and it's, it's hard tosay, but it doesn't matter
necessarily, like, I say it withgrace, like, whatever happens,
(40:40):
you don't have to stay there.
If you've ever seen the forgemovie, the guy that, uh, the
main, the main guy with thebusiness I forget his name had
his son, was killed by a drunkdriver.
The drunk driver got saved andhe ended up mentoring him.
This drunk driver had killedhis son.
You know, like, regardless ofwhat happens, like it's it's
(41:02):
usually, believe it or not forthe betterment of you, what are
you going to do with it?
Shannon (41:07):
yeah, we're going to all face trial and, um, you know
, I heard, heard.
There's a couple of things thatI wanted I write stuff down at
this point in the podcast that Iwant to come back and address,
because my mind begins to wanderif I don't.
It's hard, it's hard, it's hardto stay on track.
(41:30):
You know one thing I wrote down.
I don't know why I wrote thisdown, but I ran across this
recently thing I wrote down.
I don't know why I wrote thisdown, but I ran across this
recently and something that youwere saying talking about your
body and you know aches and allthat.
And I read recently wheresomebody said you're not a body
with a soul, you're a soul witha body, and that changed the way
(41:53):
I look at things a little bit.
You know, with personal careand things that are debilitating
, even that we deal withillnesses.
You know, one of the greatestmen of my life was bound to a
wheelchair through musculardystrophy.
You know one of the greatestexamples of man I ever saw, you
(42:14):
know personal deformitiesbecause of lack of muscle, loss
of muscle, bound to a wheelchair, and it taught him a lot of
patience and I'm willing to betthat some of the stuff that
you've been through over thelast few years from a medical
perspective has really testedyour patience and made you be
patient even in areas you didn'twant to you be patient even in
(42:42):
areas you didn't want to.
Daniel Yoder (42:43):
I was in bed for six months and I could.
When I got out of bed, my legwould turn right, purple like it
was, and it felt like it wasgoing to pop.
It was because it was so messedup, the circulation had
problems to go back and itwasn't even healed at six months
.
But the doctor said put someweight on it, start using it.
Just think.
Now my leg is made to be usedit's not made to sit around it
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and our minds are made to beused by god, like, like I said,
he created Adam and Eve, gavehim instructions.
We're, by design that's ourdesign to be used to think, and
the more we do it, the strongerit gets.
And really, like all of this Ikind of wanted to say, before we
get into too much discussion onhauling sheds, because all this
(43:34):
has such a big impact in beinga shed hauler, I wish I would
have listened to something likethis before I started hauling
sheds, because really, you know,like I just went and bought a
new truck and a new trailer, Ididn't think about maintenance,
I didn't think about longevity,I didn't think about what kind
of truck I'm running what's bestand there's so many opinions
(43:55):
out there and honestly, you justneed to block all of that out
and you need to look at yoursituation.
What is the best for me, whatdo I like, what's my plan, who
am I, who am I working with, andsome of those things, because
it's so different in almostevery area that you go, it's so
different than this guy doesn'tnecessarily work for me and
(44:19):
again, we've been just soextremely fortunate to
organically developrelationships with mechanics,
different people that that keep,um, like we don't.
We're to the point where Idon't plan to buy new trucks or
trailers all of our trailers.
So, I have.
(44:39):
There's two that we bought atthe beginning of 2015, 2017.
There's another 2015 and a 2016Pine Hill and we just run them.
They're still in all goodcondition, but we're pretty
meticulous in how we use them,how we take care of them.
Meticulous in how we use them,how we take care of them, and I
(45:02):
mean we run them in the salt,but we literally we mix up
diesel and oil, we spray it onto keep the rust off.
Every winter, we go through allthe axles, we take out the
bearings, we replace all theseals.
There's a certain kind of oilby Mobile One that we found that
works really good for the hubs,and the hubs and the wheels and
the brakes are, you know, someof the biggest issues with
(45:22):
trailers.
You know there's somebody thatcares, takes care of our engines
and in all this, these things,I couldn't have figured it out,
I couldn't have come up with allthat, but it's just everything
Good at everything, Daniel.
Shannon (45:39):
Learn to be good at everything.
That's why we need other people.
Daniel Yoder (45:43):
I read a book this winter and I actually gave it
to everybody I work with.
It's called who, not how.
If you haven't read it,actually, Matthew Weaver had
shared a post about it andthat's how I got my hands on it
who, not how.
It is literally one of the bestbooks out there, besides the
(46:05):
Bible, because it's on this ideaof who you find a.
Who you do it yourself, youwill always limit you.
You will always limit you.
If you do it yourself, you willalways limit you.
You will always limit you ifyou do it yourself.
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Daniel Yoder (48:03):
If you find a who and you find somebody that has
done it, all of a sudden itchanges completely and it really
like in the Shed Haulers page.
There's one thing that sparks alot of conversation is when a
(48:40):
driver has an issue with a, themanufacturer or the company I
work for, before I even thinkabout asking for something
different.
Do I know for a fact that Ihave put my best foot forward?
Bring it back to me.
Do they know that I can get thejob done?
Are they aware of that?
What do your dealers say of you?
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Like, do they appreciate yourwork?
Talk is really cheap.
We can say a lot of things wecan get involved with.
Oh, that guy's done that.
You know, guys, what does thatdo for you and what does it do
for other people?
And like, and when we talkabout that a lot, the best thing
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and the absolute best thing wecan do is to know our jobs and
focus on our jobs.
It doesn't matter what thenoise is, that if we do a good
job, we will always have a job.
And you know I've, especiallythe last two years, I've gotten
numerous calls from othercompanies that would love to
(49:46):
work with us, but I turn themaway because we're happy, it's
not nothing against them.
But I'm not looking to turn intoa large company.
We have a good thing going andit's just so important for the
drivers to have that connectionwith the company they work for
and I think sometimes there's alack of communication where the
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drivers don't feel appreciated.
There's not much communication,but that's not an excuse.
Why are you doing what you'redoing?
Yeah, are you doing basedthings?
Based off of the companytreating you the way you think
they should treat you?
Or you know why are.
If that's the reason you'redoing what you're doing, then
(50:29):
you're doing it for the wrongreason.
Shannon (50:32):
I wrote down a couple of things here that things that
have just stuck with me foryears.
You know, there's a saying thatsays people don't do things to
you.
People do things for themselvesand whenever you absorb that,
you start to look at thesituation differently.
They're not doing something tohurt you if they're doing
something for themselves.
(50:53):
If you get hurt in collateraldamage, I think there's a
certain amount of people thatare either okay with it or not.
That they're okay with it, justthat they can't do anything to
prevent it.
Like, in other words,competition makes us sharp.
You know, I heard somebody tellme like well we handle this one
area.
Someone else shouldn't get intoour area and try to service
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that because we handle that areawell, well one.
It doesn't sound verycapitalistic, it doesn't sound
very American, and it doesn'tsound very free.
If they can come in and do itand do a good job, then that's a
good thing because it increasesthat competition increases us
to all be better.
So, while collaboration isbrilliant, it's fun and it's all
(51:36):
of these things, there is acertain level of competition
that keeps us sharp and makesfor a better experience overall
for everyone.
The thing is like if you'recalled to compete with someone,
it doesn't mean you're called tohate them, right?
Like we're shed haulers, orwe're shed haulers or we're shed
(51:57):
sellers or we're shedmanufacturers.
We're not gangs.
We don't have to hate someoneelse for doing something or
doing it well, matter of fact.
We can learn from it.
And then I wrote this downbecause you were talking about
hard work.
You know, which is the onlything that my dad taught me
growing up was really hard work.
You're going to have to workhard.
That's why I told you at thebeginning of this you know, I've
been a blue- collar guy most ofmy life.
(52:19):
You know I haven't worked inthese pristine, clean conditions
for years.
God's been really, you know,good to us and has blessed us to
do that, which is probably good, because my back can't take the
(52:40):
hard work quite like I used to.
I enjoy hard work, love it.
Work out in my yard all thetime, daniel, I work hard and I
love working hard.
I love breaking a sweat.
There's actually somethingabout it I enjoy.
I definitely mow my own yard.
I heard someone say the otherday there's three levels of rich
, you know, or wealthy, maybe isa better way to say it.
They said mow your own yard wayto say it.
They said they said mow yourown yard, pay someone to mow
(53:02):
your yard, mow your own yard.
And I thought that was veryclever because, like I enjoy
mowing my yard, even if I couldafford to pay someone to mow my
yard, I don't want them to.
I like it, I want to do it.
I want to do it the way I wantto do it, but you're talking
about hard work and I want to doit the way I want to do it.
But you're talking about hardwork and I wrote this down Work
yourself into a job.
You can literally, just by doinga good job, work yourself into
(53:25):
a job.
You don't have to wait onanyone.
We're taught this in thissociety that you have to wait or
that you have to go throughthis process.
College me and you just talkedabout the love of what you did
with Bible studies and Liberty,and you know I've got a buddy
who went to Liberty.
I was looking at takingbiblical classes myself online
(53:46):
at Liberty and he's a big partof why I started this podcast.
I'm going to be honest with you, but he sold sheds for me at
one point.
It's interesting, you know howthings work out, but you don't
have to ask someone's permission.
You can just go work hard andpeople will see it and they'll
notice it and they'll want towork with you.
(54:08):
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Be sure to tune in next weekfor more engaging conversation
here at the Shed Geek Podcast.
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