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What happens when life brings you to your breaking point? For shed hauler Daniel, a catastrophic injury left him bedridden for six months, plunging him into depression that nearly destroyed his business. Just when recovery seemed possible, tragedy struck again with the death of a beloved employee in a car accident. Yet today, he runs a thriving operation with a surprising sense of peace and purpose.

The secret? A complete transformation in thinking about business, leadership, and life itself. "The power of letting your yes be yes and your no be no, leaving emotions out of it, is amazing," Daniel shares, describing how setting clear boundaries without emotional charge revolutionized his customer interactions. This philosophy extends beyond business to personal challenges, including navigating his wife's cancer treatment by maintaining an even keel through both good and bad news.

Daniel's story challenges conventional wisdom about business success. When he gathered his team to announce he was quitting, he discovered there was nowhere else to go. This moment of being trapped became the catalyst for working with a coach who helped develop company values and a mission statement: "Our purpose is to offer high-quality customer service." This foundation created what Daniel calls "a more freeing" approach to business where team members operate with ownership mentality.

Most powerfully, Daniel reveals how the shed industry became the backdrop for deeper life lessons about significance and legacy. "If I died today, have I done the best with what I knew?" he asks, transforming everyday operations into opportunities for meaningful impact. His vulnerability about physical pain, emotional darkness, and business uncertainty demonstrates how our hardest experiences often become our greatest points of connection when shared openly.

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(01:32):
Thank you for listening to parttwo of a two part series here
at the Shed Geek podcast.
If you missed part one, just goback to last week and listen
for more engaging conversationhere at the Shed Geek podcast.

Daniel Yoder (01:50):
Yeah, and it's you know, back to.
As shed haulers, do we reallythink about the impact that we
can have?
Do we think about, like mycousin was just here recently
and he went out to deliver ashed with me, and I delivered
this shed because I knew thatthese two ladies were going to
be difficult.
It was a 14 by 30 for backyardoutfitters.

(02:14):
First of all, they you knowthey didn't want to do a gravel
pad or we don't want to.
They own a wedding venue.
It was just plain difficult.
They didn't want to do any ofour recommendations, and we get
there.
I was completely expecting it.
They didn't want to do any ofour recommendations, and we get
there.
I was completely expecting it.
They wanted it in a spot thatwas not going to work.
After I moved their shed out ofthe way, they wanted it up

(02:35):
against the fence and it wasgoing to be like a foot and a
half off level.
And I'm like we cannot put itthere and I'll just say this we
cannot put it there and I'lljust say this the power of
letting your yes be yes and yourno be no, leaving the emotions
out of it, is amazing.
And I just said listen, wecannot put it there.
This is why and I said you didnot want to put a gravel pad in,

(02:57):
per our recommendations, sothis is where we can put it.
This is where we'll put ittoday.
You change your mind, we'llcome back and move it for a fee,
and that was it.
It was like it was.
It was over.
You know, like if I would havegotten excited and added my
emotions into it, then you havebig problems, but just the

(03:18):
amount of impact as a shedhollow that you can have, not on
the customer, but on thecompany you work for, on the
manufacturer, and it just goeson and on and on.
So, as a shed hauler, that'sreally what we need to be
thinking about.
We shouldn't be thinking aboutwell, there's a guy who left
these nails sticking out here.

(03:39):
You know I scraped my hand onthem, you know.
Well, that was so far out there.
You know these rates suckWhoop-dee-doo.
You're there doing your job,and that's again where personal
development comes in.
Do you think about, do you knowwhat, your job?
I bet you there's a good amountof shed haulers out there that

(04:01):
do not know their jobdescription.
They're not exactly sure whatthe requirements are for the
company for blocking If they'resupposed to block what they do.
They get to a situation andthey're just flustered and they
dump the shed and they leave.
Because at the beginning I, youknow, back before, before I was

(04:24):
on my own Earl Yoder is who Iworked for, really at the
beginning, when I started, Iwent to him and I said, was
there ever a shed that youcouldn't level?
Because I had a big one.
And I'm like, how is thissupposed to work?
I said, was there ever a shedyou couldn't level?
And he's like, well, no, sothere's just so much, there's so

(04:46):
much to learn, um, and youcan't hardly learn without doing
it.

Shannon (04:50):
But you have to have a mindset of willing to learn too,
right like you have to go intoit inquisitive and wanting to
learn and not wanting to.
You know a lot of people wantthe quick buck.
You know, Daniel, it's like yousee somebody who's been
successful.
They've been doing it for 20years.
I mean they weren't successfulin the first.

(05:11):
You know 15 years or not asnear as what you've seen in the
last five.
You know it's the.
It's the last strike of therock with the hammer that breaks
the rock right, but you knowit's the 20 strikes beforehand,
20 years of grinding till yousee the one year of success.

(05:31):
I love that you talked aboutyour yes being yes and your no
being no, and there's a thingthat I like to say and I don't
always practice it well, and Godhas to convict me on it from
time to time which is to justlet the truth defend itself.
It doesn't need your help.
It doesn't help your help.
You won't matter of fact, asyou attempt to defend it, you'll

(05:52):
mess it up, because the truthin your defense it doesn't need
your 10 minute explanation.
But how often do we still do it?
I got so guilty of being likebut I want to prove myself in
that situation and I want peopleto know the truth about that

(06:13):
and it's like well, if you wantpeople to know the truth, then
just tell the truth.
You don't have to add to it,you don't have to take away.
It does a perfectly fine job ofdefending itself.
Just tell the truth and move on.
What we try to do probably asmen, but it's people in general
is avoid the difficult situation.

(06:33):
That's the part.
It's not that truth can'tdefend itself, it's just that we
know that it's going to createsome, some little anarchy in
there.
That and it's like, and that'swhat itches at you is.

Daniel Yoder (06:46):
It's just like, but I can't make everyone happy
and this is probably hardly amore sore spot than just that
because of my past and I've comeacross so many people.
They just don't want to talkabout it.
They did, you know.
They just don't want to talkabout it.
They did, you know.
They just don't want to talkabout it.
And again, it comes back topersonal development.

(07:08):
If you don't know who you are,if you're not confident in who
you are, if you're not sure whoyou are, then you have to talk
yourself into being okay withwhat you said instead of just
saying what.
What people think about whatyou say and how you live is
beside the point when you arelike when you, there needs to be

(07:33):
some elaboration there too.
Um, it's not an I don't careattitude, but when I do my best,
when I do my, I care verylittle about what other people
say I should or shouldn't do.
What matters is knowing what mybest is.

(07:54):
That's a process.
How do you get to that?
And then doing it, walking init, it, walking in it.
So that's really some of thosethings are my desire above
anything else, above money,above you know.

(08:15):
I was just listening tosomething this morning with a
couple of my dry runners onmoney.
If we're in this for the money,it's doable, but it's miserable
.
You imagine the roller coaster,because some days are going to
be good and you fly high andthen the next day that's down.
You're so low in the dumps andyou wish you were doing
something else.
And I've had my share of that.

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(09:24):
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Hmm no, I'm sorry, I can't finda name anywhere.
Well, we finally got a shed yes, I just hope we're happy.
The thing is a lot more shoddythan I expected, and I'm sure I

(09:47):
told them I wanted a window, butthey didn't have it in the
paperwork so I couldn't argue.
Boy is this a lousy shed.
We haven't even had it twoyears, have we?
Barely.
It was just a bad deal all theway around.

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Shannon (10:33):
I know I get it.
I get it.
I use the sales mentality.
This is going to sound crazy,but I use that same sales
mentality on how to, on how tohandle our emotions going
through, you know, my wife'scancer treatment.
It's like when you get goodnews, why do you get so excited?
Because you can be so let downby the next bad news.

(10:56):
And then it was like when youget bad news, why would you get
so far down?
Because you know there's othergood news that's coming.
But you're you're, you know.
So.
Like what we did was we stayedas even keel as we possibly
could.
When we received good news, wewere like that's good, and we
received bad news, we were likewe need to work on that, like we
just kept a very calm mentalityand I, some of the greatest men

(11:21):
in my life, have perfected that.
There's people in this business, this industry I've seen do it
and I admire them, you know, forthe way that they're able to
take things in stride.
Some of the greatest pastors Iknow have seen some of the
biggest upsets of their life andthey were able to lean on a
sovereign God that was incontrol, because they knew that

(11:44):
they weren't in control anyway.
So, they didn't take thesituation so hard, they were
just able to navigate through itand it's impressive to me
because my emotions get the bestof me on some of that.

Daniel Yoder (11:58):
Yeah and that's yeah, there's, it's, it's called
life, and back to talk is cheap.
After my injury and being inbed for six months, the
following six months were worse.
I had severe depression.
You ask well, what do I do?

(12:20):
It's like you're demanding ananswer and I've since learned
that it's okay to not know.
Sometimes the best place youcan be is to not know, and
sometimes that's the whole pointof it to not know.
But back to you know, talk ischeap and I felt like, literally
I felt like such a failure totell people that I want to go to

(12:44):
school and I want to do that.
I had no control over that, butthat's why you come back to
talk is kind of cheap and youcan say a lot of things, but
until we do it, until we've doneit, until we are doing it like
talk is talk and how, how, howis that lived out?

(13:07):
I'm kind of losing some of mythoughts there.
But in that depression timeafter I was trying to recovery,
I got all the guys together.
You know I had tried to plan todo something else.
Obviously, that didn't happen,and I honestly feel like I have
like a second shot at the shedindustry.
Um, because I got everybodytogether of that winter and I

(13:30):
said, hey guys, I'm done.
I said I'm done.
I said I don't know how this isgoing to work, but I said I'm
done, I, I didn't.
I, I was like I'm done, I've hadit, and it's really a selfish
attitude.
I was looking at what works forme.
Do I?

(13:51):
Am I getting my answers that Iwant?
Is this going to work for me?
I can't do it.
I, I, I, I.
But there was nowhere to go.
My accountant said if you sellthe business and you don't
actually get your money and youknow, you sell it to somebody
else, uh, based off of a paymentplan.

(14:13):
And I said they don't do whatyou're doing this.
He said you're still not goingto get your money and you know
there was options of somebodyelse buying it that I would
manage and I'm like I'm going todo myself.
And the most revolutionizingtime after that I don't even
know, maybe a year after that Istarted working with a coach

(14:36):
back to who, not how and hereally helped me understand some
of those things, the purpose ofit.
Why are you doing it?
Are you just doing it for money?
And that's kind of that'spretty deep, but we figure it
out on our own.

(14:57):
We try to figure it out on ourown.

Shannon (15:04):
We will always limit ourselves.
Exactly right, that's exactlyright.
So obviously won the bash truck.
We'll throw some pictures onthere for those who don't know
about that.
That was awesome.
Went through this terrible time.
Depression, totally understandit, you know I have.
Everyone's depression isdifferent.
I heard a saying one time thatsaid depression is just anger

(15:28):
turned inward.
I don't know if you've everheard that.
Um depression is whenever youdon't.
Um depression is when you don'tand I don't know if it's true,
and I'm not saying this is somepsychologist or psychiatrist.
You know words.
This was a inspirational quotesomewhere, but I don't even know
if it's very inspirational, butit's a quote nonetheless.

(15:52):
But it said you know, anger isdepression is anger when you
turn it inside and you don'trelease it.
You don't let that anger out,because we're meant to have
emotions, we're meant to gothrough all these different
emotions sad, happy, I mean.
The Bible says there's a timefor everything, right, there's
time to grieve, there's time tolaugh, there's time to cry.
So, we know that those arereasonable things of us to

(16:16):
happen and go through.
It also reminds us that we'renot cybernetic.
It also reminds us that we'renot infinite.
It also reminds us that we neednot infinite.
It also reminds us that we needa Savior.
You know what I mean like.
So, it's a constant reminderthat, like your best is not
enough.
And that's hard for men, becausemen like to solve problems, men

(16:38):
like to fix things and some ofthe most stubborn men I know
don't take any advice and theyjust they're the most talented
and they're amazing and at theend of that they're still not
worthy, they're still not ableto fix everything, they're still
not able to be sovereign.
You know you still rely on God.

(17:00):
You have to, and I think if youdon't, that's what you start
there lead there, give it first,give him your first fruit.
You know, I've said for a longtime you know, whether it's this
industry, this podcast, thiscareer, whatever it is, it's
God's.
Because what would I do with it?
What would I do?

(17:20):
Mess it up, mess it up and haveto go run back to him anyway.
So, if I don't give him that tobegin with and you know that's
what's interesting and I'll goon the offensive here a little
bit, Daniel to say you know,those difficult times that you
go through aren't wasted.
That depression that you gothrough is not wasted.
He uses that.

(17:41):
It does not waste anything.
He uses that.
He uses that to help others.
He uses that, uh, in a way thatyou never saw coming.
And um, I just, uh, I had apastor who used to say don't,
don't, don't pray to be likedon't, don't pray to not have

(18:01):
problems.
Don't pray to not have problems.
Don't pray to not go throughdifficult situations.
Pray for his peace and his helpto go through those situations,
because it's your testimonythat will help others, and
that's what we're doing heretoday is telling that.
So, catch me back up to speed.

(18:22):
Where are we at this point?
You're on the truck.
You've went through the six-month difficulty, laying in bed,
this depression.
You get ready to like say heyguys, we're done, I'm calling it
and I'm going to go dosomething else.
What happens then?

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Daniel Yoder (19:39):
the uh, so I'm in bed and my wife has a
miscarriage, so we were both inour own, like we were both just
way down.
Yeah, and I think you knowbeing on this side of it is

(20:00):
definitely different.
It's, it's, it's, you know, you, I don't know how to say it
other than I've been there.
Being on this side of it isdefinitely different.
I don't know how to say itother than I've been there and
there's nothing there and thechances of going back is so much
less.
And we talk about that Evenmore.
So recently, we talk about thesethings and you're so right that

(20:24):
that God will use these things.
Um, and, and it's, it's almostscary.
Sometimes when you are, youhave so much joy.
You know it's like, uh, this isthis is amazing.
How long is it gonna?
You know?
And the key is now is it willlast, because it's not us doing

(20:51):
it and if we can learn to havejoy, whether, like, whether,
whatever happens and I failed tomention that when we started,
we named it GDR the name meansGod, Daniel and Rochelle Because
, well, obviously, the Lord gaveus the opportunity.
He didn't allow us to sell, hebrought us where we, so it is

(21:12):
his and it's almost like Imentioned to a couple people
recently being in thesesituations, the longer you're in
the shed industry unless youfeel you know, kind of like your
relationship with the Lord thelonger you're in it, the less
you feel you know and the morefreeing it is, because the less

(21:33):
you're carrying, the less youhave to micromanage everything,
the more fun it becomes.
But all that comes back topersonal development continually
.
This is not something thatwould just happen overnight.
This is not.
This is like sanctification,ongoing, different words meaning

(21:54):
similar things and I just likeI think the emphasis on
ourselves.
We so often ignore that.
So the last three years reallyApril was four years since my
injury and then the first yearafter that was just a complete

(22:17):
blur.
But the last three years, I'dsay, have been some of the best
and also a lot of unknowns.
When you're in the shedindustry, you know, after COVID
you think things are going toslow down.
There's been a lot of changes,but I'd say they've been the
most freeing.

(22:37):
We're doing more with morepeople, but at the the same time
it is more freeing and it's wejust.
I work with really great people,uh, great drivers, great ladies
in the office and that takestime too uh, that matters.

(22:58):
It matters who you work with it.
We continually talk aboutoperating in a in a ownership
mentality.
I don't, I don't want to try toworry about whatever the
drivers do.
If they call me and they say Ican't get it in, I want a
hundred percent Believe them.
I don't question, they havedone their best.

(23:21):
They can't get it in and that's, that's that.
But again, it, it, it takes timeand that's one of the things
that I can't take credit for.
That's one of the things mycoach helped me to do.
He helped us develop a mission,values and our vision and

(23:42):
vision and write it out.
And we have a mission statement.
Our purpose is to offer highquality customer service.
That's, I mean, that's what wewant to do in the shed industry.
He helped us write this down sowe can always come back to that
, we can hang everything on thatand things just feel lighter.

(24:05):
But it comes back to not metrying to figure it all out and
it.
I think it.
I think I can say this that italso creates confidence in the
people that you work with whenthey know that the decisions
you're making isn't just comingfrom you like that's, that's,

(24:27):
that's a big thing, yeah no, Icouldn't agree more.

Shannon (24:33):
Um, yeah, what did I write down?
My worst day, my, my worst day.
You talked about how goodthings get and you wonder, is
this going to stay?
And that won't stay forever,because you'll have ebbs and
flows.
But the reality is, it's yourability to bounce back, it's
your ability to recover, it'syour ability to keep going.

(24:54):
Don't put your head down andquit or give up again.
And you know I've done that.
I've done all those thingswhenever I was younger.
Again, and uh, you know I'vedone that.
I've done all those thingswhenever I was younger quit,
give up, just walk away from it.
Think that it was simpler to dothat.
And there's just such a joy infinishing and just going through
the process and just overcomingand and like, look, even if

(25:17):
that doesn't yield you what youthought that it was going to be,
um, it's.
It's yielded you a greatpersonal like testimony and
momentum and mindset offortitude and continuing on and,
as paul says, finishing therace.
And you know just so, like I've, I know what giving up's gotten

(25:37):
me, you know.
So I want to try the otherthing.
I want to try to keep going andpush through it.
Uh, terry, was that way.
You went to boot camp.
Boot camp same place I did.
I remember running up from thattheater all the way up that
steep hill that came up rightbeside our barracks and, uh, I
remember running and that thosedrill instructors were so tough

(25:59):
and I was 17 and thought I wastough.
They were real tough, you know,and um and um and uh, I
remember being so scared of themand they would even tell you
about all the stories about howpeople had, like, passed out
from heat exhaustion, people haddied, I mean even.
Uh, you know, and I remembertelling myself because of the
shame that was felt with fallingout of a run or whatever, like

(26:23):
I remember just the shame thatyou felt, the mental, the way it
took over your mental.
Uh, you know everything whenyou fell out of a run, because
everyone's looking at you likewhy'd you give up?
Why'd you quit?
Why didn't you keep going?
I remember running and, Daniel,you've been in this moment.
Maybe others who've been in themilitary understand it, but if
not, they won't.
But you, I remember running and, Daniel, you've been in this
moment.
Maybe others who've been in themilitary understand it, but if

(26:44):
not, they won't.
But you ever been running andyou've been on such a long run I
don't know.
At that time I called a long run, five miles, right, so like,
for me that was a long run, fivemiles, you know.
And I remember running andyou're holding your hands up,
you're holding your arms upwhile you're running and you're
moving them and, like, you everjust been so tired that you just
like couldn't, didn't have thestrength to hold your arms up

(27:06):
anymore and like, and I justremember letting my, my arms
dangle and I was like I will dierunning before I will fall out.
They, they said people died outhere doing it.
Well, well, guess what?
I'll die before I quit.
And I remember telling myselfthat and somewhere in my late

(27:27):
20s, early 30s, I lost that grit.
You know, I lost that grit,that I that I developed at 17.
And that's why it's good tohave people around you business
coaches, mentors, people offaith, people who, who, who can
encourage you, people who canpush you when you can't push
yourself.
You know, uh, it's, it's goodto have a circle of influence,

(27:49):
because you need that.
And they were my circle at thatmoment and I was like you know
what, before I let them down.
It was all the mental games,right?
Like you know what it's likewhen you're sitting there in a
formation and they're like yourrecruiter lied to you, didn't he
?
I bet you feel bad about yourrecruiter.
He done told you all this goodstuff and you know he's back

(28:11):
sipping coffee and you're heredoing pushups.
It's not very fun, is it, man?
They did all the mental stuffto get in your head and make you
quit and walk away and sayyou're right, it's my
recruiter's fault.
But, man, they did a great jobof making me say no, I'm going
to overcome this.
I'm going to show you, I'mgoing to beat you.

(28:33):
I'm not going to let that beatme.
And, dude, I remember that Iit's anyway.
Catch me up, catch me up.
Where did you you've beenthrough you come out of this
depression?
Where did it?
Where did it go from there?

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Daniel Yoder (30:10):
Kind of like I alluded to, uh started working
with my coach and things havejust we've had a good three
years.
We're delivering sheds, um, Ithink, the drivers.
It was also a really difficulttime two years ago, this
November, when one of my drivers, steven Erb, was killed in a

(30:34):
car accident.
He used to live at the end ofour lane and it wasn't just like
he was our driver, he was likedriver, he was like he was
family and uh, we did stufftogether and we hung out and he
would he was, he was just his,he's big guy walk into the room

(30:55):
and he could take over the wholeroom and he would just, you
know, he would just take over.
So that was a really difficulttime.
His mom, lena, is actually mydispatcher and I work with some
other people in the family, buthe would have wanted us to keep
going.
He actually.

(31:19):
It's an interesting story.
Somewhere out there is a videoof me pulling out a shrub with a
bash truck I've seen it.
I've seen that video that wasthe day that I met steven and he
was just gawking and oohing andaahing over the truck and I
took him for a ride, had noself-confidence.

(31:41):
He had no self-confidence andhe was probably 21, 22.
He had gone through.
He grew up in a church, gonethrough a rough patch, moved
away, come back and he's likeyeah, you know, I like to drive
a truck.
These things are so cool.
You know, I thought about goingto get my CDL.
I thought about going to get myCDL and literally three or four

(32:05):
months later I convinced him tohaul sheds and I hired him
while I was in bed.
It was just like hispersonality is hardening, it was
so bubbly and just like hecouldn't talk fast enough, like
he would think, and he couldn'ttalk fast enough in his laughter

(32:26):
and stuff like that.
Um, but I literally hired himwhen I was in bed and you know
he, he was very much like me inthe sense that he would just go
do it, like he would just go doit.
And you know he he's like ohyeah, I'm gonna take the shed
meal down to the shop and I'mgonna play around with him.
And he calls he.
He's like oh yeah, I'm going totake the shed meal down to the
shop and I'm going to playaround with him and he calls me
and he flips it, taking it offthe truck because he left the

(32:47):
wheels up and it just wentsideways and I don't know.
Somebody came and got me and Iwent help him set it up with,
set it up right with chains, andI'm, you know, with my crutches
and putting my leg up on thetrailer to not make it feel like
it's going to pop when he'sturning purple.
So, we did that and actuallythe North Carolina Bash was kind

(33:10):
of something we all did inmemory of him.

Shannon (33:14):
Um, can't keep my emotions in oh, that's tough man
, when you go through.
I was there at the Lancasterbash whenever you won the truck.
I was also there at the NorthCarolina Bash and um for one
this is all the reasons why Icontinue to advocate for all

(33:36):
these different barbecues andprograms is I think you learn
some invaluable things there,but you also develop some pretty
amazing relationships and likeyou know, it's man, like you
went through a five-year stretchthere.
That's hard for anybody.

Daniel Yoder (33:55):
But, what got me there was that he would talk
about going all summer and thenhe died in early November.
So, we had planned this thingthat we would all drive down
five trucks.

(34:15):
It was a blast.
We all drove down.
We took other people with usHis brother-in-law, just other
friends we took along.
It was great.
Then we come home, we had ameal, we did a parade through

(34:37):
town, it was just.
But he there's much more thatcan be said about that.
He would have wanted us tocontinue, and so his girlfriend
was in the car with him when theaccident happened and his baby

(35:00):
was born the next day.
And his baby was born the nextday.
But she's now.
Justine is now working withLena, which is really neat.
You know she's working withLena doing dispatch work and
stuff.
So, we're just, you know, likethese things we don't have to
hide behind them.
We don't have to hide behindthat.
That's not something we have to.

(35:21):
My life is going to end behindthat.
That's not something we have to.
My life is going to end becausethat happened yeah no, you live
in what he would have wanted todo, yeah, and what I?
What I didn't get to is like itwas probably one of the
highlights of the 10 years,literally because I, you know,

(35:42):
he started.
It took him a long time, youknow, probably six, eight months
, and then that year that hepassed away, he was actually an
owner operator.
You know, he just he would justlike he was having so much fun.
He he just he never thoughtthat he could do it and it was

(36:05):
so much joy to see him doingsomething that he never thought
he could do, because, you know,obviously I can, I can relate to
that.
Um, so that you know that thatwas, that was over the time.
Earlier that year, I had startedworking with my coach and he

(36:26):
kind of had a hard time with it.
He's like, what's this personalgrowth stuff?
Who needs that?
It was just his attitude.
And then we did a session whenI started.
We did a session with everybody, everybody had a session with
my coach and he was against it.
And then during the session,he's breaking down and crying

(36:50):
because he was realizing that hehas value, he's bringing value
to the table.

Shannon (36:58):
We all put a shell on.
Sometimes, man, we put a shellon because the world is tough
and I'll tell you what you know.
Some of us, you know, even puta shell on, sadly, you know,
more so in the communities offaith than we do, even the
communities of the world.
I mean, I always tell peopleI've experienced more hurt in

(37:19):
the church than I did in theworld.
In the world I kind of kept myshell on in my, in my, you know,
church life and, like faith,I've been able to open up
completely and then that's gotme burned a few times and it's
like I think you know I'velearned to navigate through both
finally, but yeah, we just needyou know, there's a lot of

(37:41):
conservative people in the shedindustry and we.

Daniel Yoder (37:44):
I think we need to talk about it and be careful
not to hide behind our faith.

Shannon (37:51):
I think it's easy when you've grown up in church.
You know, Daniel, sometimesit's easy because you've grown
up hearing.
You know the message offorgiveness, the message of
grace, you know.
I think sometimes that makes itharder.
You know, growing up inforgiveness, the message of
grace, you know, and I thinksometimes that makes it harder,
you know, growing up in churchthan it does growing up in the
world.
You know, because when you growup in church, you know you're
taught, you can always go backand ask for forgiveness.

Daniel Yoder (38:15):
You know you can always go back and embrace and
there's this subtle aspect thatwhen you grow up in the church,
there's a subtle aspect ofsteering away from difficult
times, not embracing difficulttimes.
Well, I'm a Christian.
Everything should be good forme.
You know, everything's provided.
The Lord's going to provide,and he does, but he also

(38:38):
provided for Job.

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I heard someone say he gives you the tree, he doesn't
give you the bench.
You know.

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Daniel Yoder (39:51):
If we desire a good relationship.
Do we desire to go through whatJob did?
Do we desire to go through whatthe apostles did?
Do we know?
Do we know what we're asking Ifwe weren't in a relationship?
Do we actually know what we'reasking?
And I think the answer is noand I don't.

(40:12):
But coming back to where we'reat now, just the joy, talking
about joy, and whether or notthat's going to stay, and the
longer time goes on and the morewe realize that this is what
I'm doing now, and if the Lordtakes us a different direction,
I tell people this is what I'mdoing now, but a month from now

(40:35):
I could be doing somethingdifferent.
I'm not planning on it.
Obviously, if it changes it,guess what?
I'll have the same amount offreedom and joy.
Hopefully, that would be in mydesire, regardless of what
happens.
I mean, you could havesomething happen to you that
just seriously changes thecourse of your direction.
And I was at a conference reallyrecently and this this, this

(41:01):
gentleman in New Jersey, apastor, shared his story.
It was one of the mostgut-wrenching things you could
listen to.
He was a pastor for 20 yearsand his daughter committed
suicide, and he talked openlyabout all the pains, all the

(41:22):
shame, everything that comeswith that.
You know people think, well,that shouldn't happen to pastors
.
But you know that shouldn'thappen, that shouldn't happen.
You know all those things.
But she had conditions.
She had, um, she, she hadconditions and they honestly
thought she suffered from abuse.
She had so many things stackedagainst her and just one day

(41:47):
something happened and that wasit.
But guess what?
He was at this conference andit had only happened like a year
and a half prior to that.
They already have a full blownministry Full blown.
They travel across the country.
Imagine the lives that arebeing saved because of that

(42:17):
event.
Amazing.

Shannon (42:17):
Amazing.
When I went through chaplaincy,the same thing had happened to
our teacher, who was a pastor,and he was actually a chaplain
in the Navy as well, and that'sthe same story for his daughter,
and he used that as a catalystto launch his chaplaincy
ministry and going aroundattempting to heal those that

(42:41):
were suffering from thosedifferent um conflicts of their
mind.
Dude, I love that you told yourstory here, your testimony.
I believe that people I believethat people sometimes want to
hear about SEO and websites, andsometimes I want to hear about

(43:02):
sales marketing, and sometimes Iwant to hear about sales
marketing and sometimes I wantto hear about you know, oh,
check out this new, you knowshed moving trailer or tool or
the trade.
And sometimes I just want tohear people's stories and we try
to do a mixture of all of themand try to figure out where
there's a place for them to allbelong.
Everyone's story belongs here.

(43:22):
I don't care if you're acompetitor, I don't care if
you're a friend, a foe, itdoesn't matter.
There's a microphone foreveryone to tell their story,
because I do believe we learnfrom, from others, and the
legacy that you lead, that youleave, is a legacy, you know,

(43:44):
one that's meant to be sharedwith others.
Your testimony has been to beshared and I think you said and
I hope I'm not taking too muchof a Liberty by doing this, by
saying I think I think that yousaid when, uh, when you came
back from um, the North Carolinabash, after hearing Woody tell
a story on stage, that's whathelped give you the inspiration

(44:07):
and the encouragement to goahead and tell your story and
that's what you reached out with.
Whenever me and you meet we hadmet before, but whenever we
began to talk about you and yourtestimony on the podcast,
that's what I read and it's beenwhat four months ago, five
months ago, it's hard to believebut and it'll probably be a

(44:30):
month or two before the episodecomes out, but any will be and
it'll be at least two, two shows, It'll be two episodes.
There's no doubt in the timethat we've done already, which
is perfectly fine.
There's no time limit on God'smessages, you know and uh, but I
want to know is there any, anyfinal thoughts, any shout outs

(44:52):
that you want to mention?
Uh, we're doing all our stuffor we're in the shed, all our
brotherhood and I got mybarbecue.
Four state, Oklahoma, shout outto JD Perry and Travis parts.
But um, you know, I love thehaulers and what they do and I
know that you're so much morethan a hauler Uh, not that

(45:12):
there's anything wrong with justshed hauling by any means but
um, you do so much more.
I'm inspired by your success,inspired by your story Next time
I get to New York.
Uh, I got to meet with Marvinlast time I was up there.
I think I got to meet youbriefly while there, but it was
very short.
We need to sit down for dinnerand just solve the world's

(45:35):
problems over a cup of coffee orover a steak or something.
But any final thoughts that youwould give to that?

Daniel Yoder (45:43):
I'd say you know what is just such a such a great
example?
You know, people lovetransparency.
People don't love when you'rewearing a mask.
They love seeing the real you.
You see the real Woody.
But you know it was great forhim to share his story.
What Sam does is amazing.

(46:04):
He's transparent as well.
You know the Shed Bash dashWoody, I think my wife.
We have three kids 10, 7 and 2.
She has been with me the whole.
You know the whole way she'sdoing more book work and stuff.
So that's that.
You know, without her it wouldnot.
It would not work.

(46:25):
And then the people that I, thatI work with, like the less
credit I can take the better.
And you know I hope that I wasable to get out of the way and
just let the story be the story.
But you know, I got home fromthe shed bash in North Carolina
and I didn't send it to peopleright away, but I was just like

(46:45):
I got to write this down, like Igot to write this down Because
if I don't write this down it'sgoing to be gone.
And then I had shared mytestimony at the conference I
was mentioning and I wasactually talking to one of the
dealers we love to work with,Jason and Jen Giggling, big
Upstate, New York.
They're just fantastic peopleand they're, like Jen's, like

(47:09):
you need to talk about this more, you need to tell it, like you
know.
And then there was just aseries of other things, and then
we started talking, and so thatwould be my desire.
As John the Baptist said, hemust increase, I must, you know,
I must decrease, but we stillhave a role to play.

(47:29):
You know, we still haveresponsibilities, but hopefully
I can get out of the way.
And I got to say this.
So, Stephen, that I mentionedthat passed away the year after
my leg injury.
I had just recovered and wewere on the lake jet skiing.
We collided, his jet ski, hitme on the right side, completely

(47:50):
broke my pelvis, fractured itin six places.
So, I'm still bearing his marksyou're still.

Shannon (47:59):
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Dude, I love Life is crazy.
I love your story, yourtestimony, your kindness.
You just got a really nicespirit when chatting with you
and I'm blessed to be able toshare it here.

(49:24):
I hope that others are blessedby it today and their journey as
they go out and do what they do.
I love what I do.
I love this industry.
It comes with its fair share ofheadaches, and you know I, but
you know, at the end of the day,God has put me on this journey
until he calls me to dosomething different, if ever.
But when he does, I just wantto be I'll be sad.

(49:45):
But people say, don't be sadthat it's over, be happy that it
happened, you know.
So, as long as, as long as hehas me here or wants me here,
I'll, I'll be here and, uh, Ijust put the faith in him that
he's going to open the doorsthat are necessary for us to
move forward.

Daniel Yoder (50:01):
Um, if that's what he desires and if not, then
he'll set us on a different path, won't he?
Um, if you ask that, I just sayyou know, thank you for what
you're doing.
You're, you're just you'redoing an amazing thing.
Um, it's, it's, you know it,it's got to be a God thing.
You didn't plan this and youget to do this, you get to do

(50:25):
this.

Shannon (50:26):
It's such a fun thing that people don't realize.
And, yeah, it has to be a Godthing, because the Shannon thing
will mess it up.
Trust me, I've spent 44 yearsmessing things up.
It's only when you rely on theLord and seek His counsel and
ask for Him to chart the courses.
It has to be Him because, trustme, if left to my own, I would

(50:51):
find a way to mess it up.
I always do, and so I just giveit to him and I'm thankful for
what he gives us back in return.
It's a very fun endeavor to beable to do, to talk to people.
I believe communication can doso many things.
I believe it can solve so manyproblems and I think that if we
can just come together.
A guy told me the other day.

(51:12):
He said I love listening toyour podcast.
I love listening to podcasts ingeneral, and I was like, oh,
thank you.
And I was like you should comeon.
He's like, uh, and I was like,hey, to be honest with you, man,
without having you and yourstory on there, there's no good
podcast to listen to.
We need, you know, we need tohave those, so we make it light

(51:32):
and simple and easy for you, we,we, we edit, you know when
necessary.
We don't record live and evenif we did, what would it matter?
You're, you're, you're.
You're walking around withoutan edit button in your life
every day, all day anyway.
So, people are gaining who youare and getting an opinion,
developing an opinion of who youare, based off of everyday life

(51:53):
anyway.
So why not come on and set therecord straight, right, and be
in control of that narrative andsay, look, this is who I am.
And people who get to know meend up finding out that I'm way
more I'm actually way moreintroverted than what you see
here on the podcast.
Me and my wife stick to ourself.
We stay home, we don't do a lot.
I mean, we're actuallyhomebodies and we're very boring

(52:16):
.
One thing you're going to findout about me is we're very
boring.

Daniel Yoder (52:20):
You wouldn't believe how much I'm like that.
Listen, before I joined themilitary, I would walk through a
store and my face would turnbright red.
I was so embarrassed I wasafraid to talk to people when I
actually went to do it.
Some other time I've had someincredibly like the most

(52:44):
embarrassing things happen inthe military.
Like you, you just can'timagine, like you can't make
this stuff up and it's like.
But it helped shape me andthat's one of the reasons why
I'm doing what I'm doing, notbecause I've done anything
special, but just take it as itcomes and God will use it.
But I think we need to wrapthis up.

Shannon (53:06):
Well, I'm going to say a quick prayer, if you don't
care, and then we'll end it andI'll chat with you for just a
second or two and we'll get offof here.
But I still believe in thepower of prayer and I believe
that prayer is an important partof our faith and our showing of
our faith.
So, if you don't care, I'll saya quick say, a quick word

(53:29):
Sounds good.
All right, lord, thank you forthis day.
Thank you for the opportunityto just share in the testimony
that Daniel's shared here withus.
The first thought that comes tomind is Stephen and his widowed
wife.
I would ask that you'd be withthem, encourage them and let his
testimony shine and give themcomfort and all that they need.

(53:54):
It's our responsibility to helpin those areas and we
acknowledge that, and Daniel'sreally stepped up to the plate.
So I'd ask that you bless hisbusiness and all that he's doing
and just continue to give usopportunity to serve you in all
that we do doing and, um, uh,just continue to give us um
opportunity to serve you and allthat we do, whether it be
through testimony, stories,helping other businesses,

(54:14):
helping ourselves, um, as aworthy endeavor.
God you've made us.
So, there's nothing wrong withuh.
With uh, you know, asking forbusiness, asking for whatever's
necessary.
You, you, want to see us allsucceed and you'll put us on the
path for what that will looklike in this industry or another

(54:35):
Lord.
So, I ask you to bless Danielfor having the courage to be
here today and tell a story.
Be a light to his path as hecontinues to seek best business
practices and how to moveforward.
Do that for all of us, lord.

(54:55):
Do that for all of us.
We humbly come to you and askfor your mercies and your
guidance in Jesus' name Amen.

Daniel Yoder (55:04):
Amen.

Shannon (55:05):
My brother, I appreciate you.
It means a lot that you wouldbe willing to step up and share
here with us today and I'm goingto any final message that you
want to give.

Daniel Yoder (55:19):
Drawing a blank.
But really my desire is tobecome less, bring glory and
honor to God.
Ultimately, the question Isometimes find myself asking is
if I died today, have I done thebest with what I knew?
I don't want to be known forsomebody that has just been

(55:43):
meandering through and kind ofdid like have I put my best foot
forward with what I have?
Have I done that?
Not in work, in my relationship, you know, family, what does
that look like?
So, I think about thatsometimes and I'm challenged by
it.
And you know I just read theother day help me to number our

(56:06):
days.
I forget the rest of the verse,but I think just having that
and I was also talking tosomebody about how you know, for
those of us that are saved, wehave a relationship with the
Lord.
Holy Spirit lives in us, butwhen we read his word it's like
it activates what's in us.

(56:26):
So that's the key we, we, if wedon't activate and we just kind
of.
You know, I don't ever want tojust go through life and just
yeah.

Shannon (56:41):
Daniel's been.
It's been excellent.
I hope you guys were blessed bylistening to this today.
We certainly appreciate youlistening always.
Go check out all the things wedo, all the people that we serve
.
Go buy some of their stuff.
It helps us keep doing this andgives them the encouragement to
keep working with us.
So, tell them the Shed Geekssent you.
I ain't afraid to ask that.
I hope you're not afraid toreceive that.

(57:04):
It means so much, Daniel.
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