Uncle Sam Wants You...to See What Generosity Can Do

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In this heartfelt conversation, Sam Byler dons his patriotic Uncle Sam attire as he and Shannon Latham discuss the monumental hurricane relief efforts that have occupied the shed industry for the past nine months. What began as an emergency response to Hurricane Helene has evolved into a remarkable story of American generosity and cooperation across political and geographical boundaries.

Sam shares the extraordinary journey of coordinating hundreds of shed donations from companies throughout the country, with deliveries spanning from North Carolina to Florida. "The people from the shed industry alone is in the hundreds—different dealers, rent-to-own companies, manufacturers, haulers, you name it," Sam reflects, still amazed at the scope of participation. Most touching are his stories of the "little people" whose small but consistent donations formed the backbone of the effort, alongside anonymous companies who donated generously without seeking recognition.

The conversation takes a thoughtful turn as both hosts explore the tension between sharing good deeds and appearing self-promotional. They grapple with biblical principles around giving, concluding that sharing stories of generosity can inspire others when the motive is pure. "Your story is important to other people," Shannon emphasizes, encouraging listeners to share their experiences on future podcast episodes.

Their discussion deepens further when examining how disaster relief became an unexpected form of ministry. "We can become so polarized in what we think is the right thing to do that we totally miss what should be done," Sam observes, noting how they essentially "took church to people" who couldn't attend traditional services. This sparks Shannon to share his vision for "Church of Pod," a potential new podcast ministry reaching people outside traditional church settings.

As the relief efforts conclude with a final push and celebrations on July 4th, both men reflect on how this experience has transformed the shed industry, creating lifelong friendships and demonstrating the power of practical compassion. Their conversation reminds us that when Americans set aside differences and work together, extraordinary things happen through ordinary people.

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Sam Byler (01:34):
All right, welcome back to another episode of the
Shed Geek podcast, Friday funday with Samba ssador.
I'm your host, Sam Byler, andI'm so good to be back with you
guys today.
As you can tell, we'recelebrating freedom.
It is July 4th.
It's coming right up next week,around the corner.
I've got a big thing in townI'm doing today, so I figured I

(01:58):
might as well start early.
I am Uncle Sam, as you can see,and I'm so excited to have the
Shed Geek Shannon Latham backwith us again.
Shannon, how are you today?

Shed Geek (02:10):
I'm good man, I love your costume and I love Uncle
Sam.
That's genius, brilliant.
It works really good.
I want you.
Yeah, you got to do the.
I want you, ain't that what,Uncle Sam?

Sam Byler (02:22):
did.
That's what he said, he didn'twant you.

Shed Geek (02:26):
I think that's what I'm going to say.
That's what he said he doesn'twant you, man, you look sharp
dude, you look really sharp.

Sam Byler (02:30):
I like it.
We pull off all kinds of looks.
You know what Something I'venever addressed that a lot of
people.
I had this come up last weekalready.
Man, ever since the Shed Showit's just been absolutely crazy
around here, like all I've donesince the Shed Show the night of
is hurricane clean up reliefefforts.

(02:52):
But somebody asked me last weekagain they're like where did
you find that hat that you woreat the Shed Expo?
You know my big hat.
I'm like I didn't find that hat.
Somebody gave me that hat.
Wendell Wendell Stover met meout in the parking lot and he's
like dude, you have to wear thisthing.

(03:12):
So that was not my idea.
It was a great idea but itwasn't my idea.
So, I guess I should put thatout there at some point.
That my big shb hat.
I'll probably wear it this yearagain too.
People seem to like it and it'sfun to do.
But yeah, my big SHB hat wasnot even my idea.
I just pulled it off.

Shed Geek (03:34):
I've seen them online .
I've seen people posting stufflike that online so I thought it
was hilarious.
It was great.
Takes a big head to fill thathat.
You know what I mean.

Sam Byler (03:48):
We had a lot of heads in it that day, so I'm not
claiming the big heads.
The cool thing about thisget-up the Uncle Sam, I want you
get-up leads me into one of thethings I want to talk about
today.
Up leads me into one of thethings I want to talk about
today and that is our we'retrying to wrap up our relief
efforts for hurricane Alene.

(04:10):
North Carolina, Tennessee,South Carolina, Georgia, all the
way down into Florida.
We actually corresponded acouple tiny houses into Florida.
We did two, I think, in Georgiaand three in South Carolina,
and then there was about a dozenof them in Tennessee, but all

(04:32):
the rest of them were in NorthCarolina.
So, I kind of automaticallyrevert back to calling it North
Carolina effort when actually itwas everywhere.
But this, the I want you thing,I'm kind of reverse, playing it
, I guess in the fact that wehad a lot of people.

(04:53):
I wanted a lot of people and wegot a lot of people.
I wish there was a way I shouldhave kept a ledger, I guess from
day one, to keep track ofeverybody that actually helped
with that project.
But it's in the hundreds, thepeople that even people from the

(05:15):
shed industry is in thehundreds Different dealers,
rent-down companies,manufacturers, haulers, you name
it, the people that came in.
Oh, look here, Lila's going toget some attention.
She's infatuated with my outfit.
For those of y'all that neverget to meet her, this is Lila
over here.
But yeah, it was the monumentaleffort and the amount of people

(05:41):
that became involved is crazy.
See, I think she likes my hat.
Y'all like my hat, my Uncle Samhat.
See, it's cool, so

Shed Geek (05:52):
Yeah it's hard to uh, it's hard to put in perspective
.
You know kind of you.
You drove back.
I remember we were considering,uh, me and you and uh, Dan and
I think Deanna talking aboutmaybe grabbing lunch, and you're
like no, we're just going toget on the road.
And we literally packed up mycar at the expo and y'all drove

(06:15):
home like 12 straight hours orwhatever the trip was, and just
barely made it through I-40, Iremember before it got taken out
.
And then here we are planningfor another expo already.
So, you haven't really caughtyour breath yet, maybe from that
.

Sam Byler (06:33):
I have not.
Yesterday was nine months andbefore we know it the expo will
be here again.
At least this time I don't haveto drive 13 hours to get to it.
So, I always enjoy those trips.
They're fun because normally,like when it's in Grand Rapids,
I have four or five stops on theway up.
They're fun to stop, meetpeople, hang out with them, you

(06:57):
know, and then you go up andthen you kind of do the same
thing on the way home.
And that was the plan, you know,for Friday.
Well, that was the plan Justmeander our way back home.
I had Dan with me, we weregonna have a good trip home and
then to just pack up and out ofthe blue, drive all night and
drive through rain and stormsand everything.
Um, we got through i-40.

(07:18):
I need to get Dan to tell thisstory because my GPS, already
back in Knoxville, startedtelling me that I couldn't go
I-40.
Google GPS was telling me thatthe road was closed and I kept
telling Dan I'm not, I'm not,I'm going to go until I can't go
anymore, and then I'll figureout how to turn around and go

(07:39):
around, because I knew the backway into Asheville was going to
be a mess and I preferred theidea of staying on the big road.
What I didn't realize was theamount of rain that Asheville
had already gotten the daybefore.
That would have probably reallychanged my plans.
But hey, the way it was, we gotthrough there.

(08:02):
We got through Asheville and onto 26 26, and that's when the
trees started falling.
And there again, with it beingon the top side of the hurricane
, the wind was coming from theeast.
Most of the trees that werefalling across the road were on
the other side of the road, andit wasn't until I started down
the mountain into Greenvillethat we started actually having

(08:22):
issues with trees on our side ofthe road.
Nine months later, we're stillhere talking about it.
It's crazy.

Shed Geek (08:37):
It's been quite the effort.
I think a lot of people haveseen your heart through this
effort, the organization thatyou created, through this effort
and the willingness of peopleto just step out of their
comfort zone, volunteer, donatetime, donate money, donate

(08:58):
supplies or just you know.
So it's, it's a, it's a verycool thing and it's a very cool
industry to be able to be a partof.
We.
We talked about this on theother podcast, at the Mayfield
tornado, when me and you wereable to connect and do something
together and it was just.
You know Simon Sinek.
You know a lot of people readhis books.
You know find your why.

(09:19):
He has this youtube video youguys should check out and he
talks about your.
Why.
Why do you do what you do?
Cause there's gotta be somethingdriving you in the morning
whenever you get up to go.

Sam Byler (09:32):
Yeah.

Shed Geek (09:32):
And it's not about what you do, it's not about how
you do it and it's not about howyou know, how you can explain
all of those things, but whatreally gets to people is why you
do what you do, and he talksabout this.
He said he did a test case on awas a homeless lady in New York
city and he said you know,everybody's walked by somebody

(09:54):
homeless and what they're doingis they're selling goodwill.
They're selling something.
They're selling goodwillbecause he said, if you give,
you feel good, but if you don'tgive, give, you either feel
nothing at all or you feel bad,but you can't feel good for not
giving.
Yeah, you know, and this is hey,there's a very biblical
application of this.

(10:14):
That I did at a keynotespeaking event where I broke
down like information that wasgiven to me.
I didn't research itspecifically, but how many times
the word give is in the Bible,compared to how many times
prayer is in the Bible, or lovelike the word give, like

(10:36):
completely, like yeah, it's like10 times more than any other
word, like give or pray.

Sam Byler (10:43):
It's in the Bible.

Shed Geek (10:44):
So, get I.
I mean, and giving is thenature of, of, of God, right?
He, you know, are the mostfamous verse in the bible, you
know, uh, john 3, 16.
You know God loved the world.
He gave.
He gave his son, right.
So, it's, you know anyway.
Um, he talks about this and hesays what I did was I changed
her sign.
He said she's out there sellinggoodwill every day.

(11:07):
She's making 40 bucks a day tosell goodwill.
You know, if you give to me, mycalls is justified, you know,
like if you give to me.
And he said I changed her signto say you know, if you only
give once a week or if you onlygive once a month, please
consider me, I'll be here nextmonth.
And he said, you know, changedher sign and all of a sudden she

(11:29):
made 40 bucks in two hours.
Now she made in a day's worthof work, what she could have
done, and you know if you callit work in two hours.
And then she got up and leftand he said that's probably why
she's poor is because she couldhave stayed and made $160, $180,
$200.
But the sign kind of addressedthe giver, because it's all

(11:51):
about the giver.
Sam, you're just a conduit,you're the tool, you're the
vessel.
It's all about the giver.

Sam Byler (11:59):
You just have to give people opportunity.
That's every day.
You know the one crazy thingabout guys like us and our why
um, you know, I got friends.
They work at BMW, they work atMichelin, they work at Bosch,
they work at tti, which is Ryobiand Milwaukee, and all them put
together and, and those guys,you know, their why is to
provide for their families.
But they have to get up in themorning, they have to get

(12:20):
dressed, they have to go to work, they have to come, their
families, but they have to getup in the morning, they have to
get dressed, they have to go towork, they have to come.
You know, they have, they havea structure that I don't have.
So, I have to have something tomotivate me.
You follow what I'm saying.
Am I making sense?
And like if?

(12:41):
If I don't, I have to create myown structure, so to speak.
But I'm convinced that thegiving side of people, if you
give them opportunity and yougive them a why, most of them

(13:02):
will do it.
And you know, just I say thisall the time just because they
didn't help SHB do theirprojects, and what we did
doesn't mean they didn't helpsomebody else, they did.
There was tremendous.
There was probably twice asmany sheds took into that area
outside of SHB as there wasthrough SHB.
I'm just, I'm just thankful forthe ones that did decide to
work with us.

(13:22):
Thankful for the ones that diddecide to work with us and the
people oh my goodness, thepeople that I've met through
this, that I didn't know beforethat ended up being huge either
donors or volunteers or beinginvolved in stuff.
Um, that's crazy.
Um, Leon Glick, he's a guy fromover in belvedere that all my

(13:44):
shed guys over there, all myshed buddies over there, they
all know him.
I never knew him and I got tomeet him in North Carolina
because he showed up and went towork and somehow he found out
about us and he ended up doingsome work for us and then he
came back over and over and overagain, all on his dime, never
would take anything, bought alot of materials, brought a lot

(14:04):
of materials and those storiesthere's dozens and dozens and
dozens of them of guys that hadnothing to do with the shed
industry, came down, workedtheir tails off and I'll have
lifetime friendships from thoseguys.

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Shed Geek (16:03):
What do you take in now that you're wrapping up sort
of this, this effort there?
What do you take away from itoutside of the stories um things
that are shed related, becausethe shed industry really showed
up in a big way five, sixhundred sheds donated, countless
hours, fuel, effort, suppliesdonated, all these different

(16:27):
things.
What do you take away from itafter nine months and all these
people?
What's on Sam's mind when hewakes up in the morning, now
that you're facing a realizationthat this is winding down?
Where's your mindset?

Sam Byler (16:46):
So, it kind of goes along with this outfit I've got
on.
Today I have really changed myviewpoint, my opinion of the
government versus we, the people.
I don't, I don't like.
I feel like somehow this, thishas got to get out nationally.

(17:09):
Um, you know, I've said for along time that half the stuff
the government's required to dotoday is stuff that originally
the church was supposed to do.
The church couldn't do itanymore, didn't do it whatever,
and the government tried to doit.
The government can't doanything.
Right, that's just the way itis.
It's just the way it works.
We brag on our government beingwe the people, and I want to

(17:30):
brag on the fact that we, thepeople, showed up and did it.
That's what's big to me is thefact that, for everything we see
on social media, on the news,wherever you're getting your
information from, that you know.
I mean, we're just, we'repretty much at the end of the

(17:50):
world because we've gone to hellin a handbasket and I'm sitting
over and I'm like, wait aminute when he bowls right down
to boots on the ground to peopleout here living life.
I work, I worked with every,every branch of political party
there is up there.
I worked with liberals.
I worked with every branch ofpolitical party there is up
there.
I worked with liberals.
I worked with conservatives.
I worked with right wing nuts,left wing nuts nobody cared.

(18:11):
At the end of the day, when weneeded help and when everybody
needed help, everybody pullstogether and still does.
That's we, the people, and thiscountry still runs on way to
people.
That's my takeaway.

Shed Geek (18:29):
What are some of the things that you saw?
People without a home rightDestroyed right.
No home.
What are some of the things youran up against when trying to
put in a temporary shelterversus the red tape that exists

(18:50):
Now?
Maybe we can play devil'sadvocate here.
I've always said I've neveradvocated for the devil, but to
just kind of humor me, Iunderstand a level of government
oversight.
This church that we've got,this office that we've got it's

(19:12):
a church building.
What we've got here, of allthings that Illinois I better
not say it.
I'm going to give them someideas Of all the things.
We do not have strict codes interms of our electrical um I you
know anybody can do your ownelectrical or whatever.

(19:34):
You're supposed to have the boxinspected but you don't.
There's, there's, there's.
Even just going across intoPaducah in Kentucky.
There's way more rules andcodes and things like that.
This, this church, you kind ofoperated.
You know it's a hundred yearold church.
You know, uh, closed downduring COVID and uh, we got in

(19:54):
here after buying it and therewere live wires that were just
hanging in places because thelocal handyman the church
handyman or whatever would justdo whatever.
And there was literally somepretty heavy wires that were
just exposed ends and they werelive and we had to go through

(20:16):
and just make it safe before wecould do anything.
So, there's a certain level ofoversight.
That's necessary, becausepeople will do dangerous things
if not no kidding.
That said, what can be moredangerous than living in a tent
when you have nothing else?

Sam Byler (20:34):
Or not even a tent Under a bridge with a tarp,
everything you own in a littlefour-door car and you're
supposed to sleep in that cartoo.

Shed Geek (20:51):
And that's seemingly okay, because what's the
alternative?

Sam Byler (20:54):
right, I mean, you know, there's no code against it
.
There's no way you go intoplanning and development.
So, let's, this is going totake a minute.
And I got to back away.
I can go all the way back tothe seventies, early seventies,
when I remember my dad buildinghouses and I, you know dad was

(21:15):
one of those dads that he tookhis boys around with him
everywhere he went.
So we were on site a lot and Ilearned construction way, way
early age, learned how to farmat an early age because my
grandpa having a farm but theconstruction side of it back in
the 70s, you know there was verylittle codes yet but they were
starting to come around and youknow nobody wants codes, nobody

(21:37):
wants codes but nobody wants uh,what's the word I'm looking for
?
I can't say what I want to say.
Nobody wants bad labor.
You know they all want a decentjob done.
And here's the crazy thing aboutit, you talk about your church

(21:59):
building, even if we have codestoday.
Once you get your CO, yourcompletion for occupancy or
whatever you want.
I don't remember what CO standsfor now, but it means you can
move in, you have the right tomove in.
After you move in, you can goin there and bust all the
sheetrock out you want, pull thewires, run them wherever you
want to run.
Nobody's going to do anythingabout it.

(22:20):
We still live in a pretty freecountry about it, we still live
in a pretty free country.
You can do.
You can see the stuff that, asa remodeler, the stuff that I've
run into over the years, whereI'm like man, this house was
built in 88, this house wasbuilt in 94.
I know it had to passinspection and look at what's in
here now.
So, it's, it's not like we'restill not able to and we and we

(22:43):
still do, even you know, to thisday, we, we learn, we learn
what the law is, and we learnhow to get around the law and I
guess that's yeah and my bringin.
We're really good at that.
You know, you just create morerules and we'll just figure out
more ways to get around yourrules.
That's just the way it works.
So we go, so we go back um a lotof, a lot of the areas that we

(23:07):
ended up.
So, to start with, we didn'treally know where we were going
to be.
Up there, we worked everywhere.
We dropped sheds all overAsheville, all over the you know
, spruce Pine, uh, Thuananoaview, some of the bigger, more
populated areas that have a lotof codes and stuff.

(23:28):
You know we were putting themeverywhere and you know nobody
really cared what anybodythought it was like they're
going there and that's the wayit is.
And then you start kind ofbuilding your funnel into the
areas that really need help andyou start focusing, like on

(23:48):
Bernardsville, on Old Fort,Burnsville, some of the
Pensacola, some of the areasthat are smaller outer areas,
small communities that don'thave all this stuff.
What they lost didn't have anycodes anyway.
So, there wasn't near the redtape there as it was in some of

(24:12):
the other areas when we started.
But I was simply of the mindthat what you said, these people
need anything better than whatthey have.
But when I started seeing whatsome of the organizations were
building up there and giving topeople even, I was like wait a
minute, you can't just take fourpieces of OSB and nail them

(24:33):
together and cut a hole in itand say that's better.
Just because it's betterdoesn't mean that it's actually
OK.
So, I kind of had, like thefirst couple of times, had
run-ins with some of theofficials up there.
I told them I said, look, I'mnot going to put anything out
here that I wouldn't be proud todrive up to and call mine for

(24:58):
as long as I needed it until Iget something better.
I said I totally agree with youSetting a box out here with no
door in it, no windows in it orwhatever?
No, I don't.
And so, I kind of I guess, byletting them know that I kind of
knew where they were comingfrom or whatever Um, I kind of
got a loophole quicker than someof the other ones did in the

(25:19):
fact that I understood you knowwhat they were fussing about.
I also understood and tried toget them to understand that we
have got to do something quick.
And you know, January, November,December and January by far our
heaviest hitting months is whenwe got the most out.

(25:39):
That's when I got zero flackfrom anybody, because they knew
what we were doing and you couldtell by looking at what we were
doing.
It wasn't just a slappedtogether osb box, it was
something that was actuallycapable of being turned into
something better.
You know, by then we'd kind ofquit using just regular donated
sheds.
We were actually getting shedsthat had house windows in them,

(26:01):
house doors in them, everything.
Everything was 16-inch oncenter.
So, I just didn't get near thered tape that a lot of guys did,
because we kind of switchedover to that, and even the ones
that we took out before.
You know, when we first started, nobody was building these, so
we just took what people donatedand changed them.
Like I had crews that came inand they took out the shed doors

(26:24):
and they put in regular housedoors.
We would change the windows onmost of them if we knew they
were going to heat them and stayin them because condensation
was an issue.
Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like we kind of gotahead of that before it ever
became a thing for us and, asfar as I know, we never had a

(26:50):
single shed that was threatenedto be moved.

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Shed Geek (28:40):
You know I wonder I've talked for a long time.
You know you've got the NSRAand the and the and the.
You know you've got APRO, butthen, but you know, nsra was
created to sort of organizearound the rent to own and I
don't know that you would say itfalls under a pro, but I think
we're all subject to.
You know the rules of rent toown and April's a bigger

(29:04):
umbrella.
You know I've been kicking thedrum for a little bit about a
trade organization and I don'tknow.
You know that I have thewherewithal or the means to to
do it, but it seems like it'd bea good idea for somebody
Because that trade organization,I feel like it could bring
builders in.

(29:25):
You know you could communicatewith schools and local trade.
Trades are on the rise.
I mean we're obviously seeingwhat you know, a shift in the
country and you know, in termsof college, I mean like I don't
know, I just saw where siuenrollment was up, which is, you
know, not necessarilysurprising, but at the same time
, like is, are the, are the?

(29:47):
You know degrees, you know is areal use case, scenarios in
real life application.
You know, because you end upworking alongside a lot of
people who it's like you, youknow, I've got a bachelor's
degree, and it's like, and what?
And it's like I don't knowpsychology, you know, or
something like that.
And it's like, or do you planto be a psychologist?
Like, nah, I just went to, justwent to school, you know, and

(30:08):
like, indeed, the commercials onindeed are starting to pick up
on things like that, or some ofthe other national tv things I
see.
Uh, they're picking up on stufflike that where they're saying,
uh, you just need a degree, anydegree, and I experienced that
my whole life.
You know, like I, I had toteach so many of my bosses how
to do the job and I was neveravailable for promotion because

(30:32):
I didn't meet the.
You know the threshold, youknow, of having a degree.
I didn't have to have a degreein business.
I could have had a degree inpsychology.
I could have had a liberal artsdegree in who knows what,
painting pigs on Saturday, Idon't know Whatever they can
think of.
You know what I mean.

(30:52):
It was like, well, you'requalified for the job because
you've got the degree.
You, you met the prerequisite.
Um, seems like trades are onthe rise and a trade
organization would make a lot ofsense, because we are in the
construction field.
When it's all said and done, uhand and this is an example of
real life meat, you know, rubbermeets the road, kind of like,

(31:14):
you have a bunch of builders whocould just go out and help in
multiple areas and I love whatyou did, uh, how you took it on,
um, the people who gave I thinkit was, uh, you know, and I've
always said, I think your heartis is truly ministry Um, you
know, I think that's why you dowhat you do, because I think

(31:36):
that that's your way ofevangelizing and ministering to
people is, maybe you're notbehind a pulpit, but you're
finding a way to get in front ofpeople and help people.
And we have, and continue tomake it a point to give this
business to God, meaning, if hewants me to do something else
and he makes it clear, I'll go.

(31:59):
I got a really cool thinghappening right now and you'll
probably hear an episode I wason this guy's and I guess maybe
I'll just have to explain it.
You'll have to listen to thepodcast, but I'll give you a
little, a little bit of on ontoday's episode.
You know, podcasting has playedsuch an important role for me

(32:21):
and we're five years in now andthis went from.
You know it's still fun, but itwent from fun to a business.

Sam Byler (32:28):
Yep.

Shed Geek (32:29):
And I can't, I can't deny that and there's no way
that you can do that and notadmit that there is less fun in
it now because it is a business.
That doesn't mean I'm nothaving fun, let me be clear.
It doesn't mean I don't enjoyit.
I still do I absolutely love it.
It does take on a differentrole when it becomes your life

(32:53):
and your business and yourlivelihood and things like that.
You know, we bought this churchin November and I was like it
was a church of God, but it wasa Church of God out of like
Anderson, Indiana, not like thechurch of God, the charismatic
church out of Cleveland,Tennessee.
And I was like I was like sixmonths in and I was like, wait a

(33:14):
minute, God, did you just pulla fastener on me?
Did I just buy a church?
Like I was in six months beforeit really hit me Like I thought
why did I buy a church?
Why did it open up so easilyfor me to buy it?
I tried every other building intown, nope, this one, no problem

(33:36):
.
I was like well, I'll justoffer them some lower amount and
they'll probably tell me no,and then we can move on.
They took it and I was likewhat?
Okay, now what's happening?

Sam Byler (33:46):
Now what.

Shed Geek (33:48):
So, anyway, I've been struggling with a church home
for quite some time because Ithink I've shared this on the
podcast and me, and you havetalked about things like this so
much.
You know, I've had more of astruggle with the church and
church people than I have.
The world and the world'speople oh yeah, people in the

(34:09):
world, I seem to understandbecause I just like your, your,
your, your, your shields are,you know, you have your, you
have your sword and your shieldfor the world, and then you have
your sword and your shield, youknow, as it talks about in
Ephesians 6, right For them, youknow, to put on your armor.
And so, anyway, you know, I'vejust struggled with that and

(34:32):
I've found so many other peoplelike me and I was like, thinking
about this podcast, I was likeI know there's a lot struggled
with that and I've found so manyother people like me and I was
like, thinking about thispodcast, I was like I know
there's a lot of churches thatstarts podcasts, but man, God
was just laying it on my heart.
They are church podcast.
Yep, church of God, it's allcoming together for me one day.
And I was like, is this going tosound sacrilege, or is there

(34:56):
people who are going to likeabsolutely hate me, if you did a
, I don't even know what thiswould look like because there's
no groundwork for it.
And I was like is a podcastdone by a church considered like
evangelism?
So, it's like is there a waythat I can use the podcast to

(35:17):
evangelize?
What would you call that?
Would you call that podcastchurch?
What would you call that?
What would you?
I'm going back and forththrough all this, and God wakes
me up.
At three o'clock in the morninghe said you just bought a
church of God.
Right.
I was like, yeah, he's like,what it's like?
What about Church of Pod?
Oh, there you go, church of Pod.
What's the first thing I do?

(35:37):
Go and Google the URL, go toFacebook.
Right, there's a guy who'salready done it.
It's been dormant.
It's only three shows.
It's been really dormant for acouple of years.
And God says contact him.
And I was like, nah, okay, allright, I got to be obedient,
I'll contact him.
Oh, no, he didn't answer.

(35:58):
He didn't answer, too bad, wegot to move on.
God was like uh-uh, keep goinguntil you get his attention.
I tried for three weeks,messaging him just about every
day on Facebook, email andeverything else.
Finally, he reaches out to meone day and he said man, you're
persistent, come to find out.

(36:19):
This guy works in marketing inthe post-frame world.
No way have the bestconversation, and at a minimum.
By the way, I love the logobecause it's church of pod and
it's a stained glass windowinside of a microphone and I was

(36:40):
like, oh, that's just genius.
I love it.
Anyway.
I've talked to this guy five orsix times already and he said,
if nothing else, you'veencouraged me to start again
because I had this vision.
And he said you know, if Idon't want to do this anymore,
I'm just going to hand it overto you and I don't know what we
would do with it.
I don't have all the idea forit, Sam, I don't.

(37:03):
I don't know what man.
The conversation was justexcellent that I had with him.
So that's kind of what's goingon in my head as a passion
project of trying to reachpeople, because I'm not trying
to get people out of church.
We're actually the fact thatthere's, you know, people 40
years of old, uh of age, andyounger only 40% are in church,

(37:27):
uh, regularly.
Yeah, it's not.
It's not that I'm trying topull them out of the church.
I'm just trying to use anunconventional method Like
you're talking about here.
They were able to be witnessedto in North Carolina because
they're kind of in a state ofvulnerability and I saw that in
jail ministry and you've donejail ministry you see that
they're a little bit more opento hearing the word because

(37:50):
they're kind of at the end oftheir self, right and they're
recognizing they need somethingbigger than them.
So, I thought how could we usea podcast to help spread the
word and evangelize andencourage people to go to church
?
So that's kind of been myevangelistic approach to this

(38:11):
whole thing.
So, Church of Pod is on my minda lot.
I'll just say that yeah.

Sam Byler (38:18):
Listen when you, I'm trying to remember a phrase that
somebody told me a couple yearsago when your career is God's
mission, I don't care whatyou're doing.
You're doing church.
Your podcast has been doingchurch for years, because you

(38:38):
recognize and give honor andglory to God and at the end of
the day, at the end of the day,that's what church is.
That's the thing that I thinkwe figured out the most about
being up in North Carolina allthe time is we took church to
people.
They couldn't come to church.
We literally took church tothem.

(39:00):
And there was days Aaron and Iyou know I don't know it was, it
was April and we were stillgoing up there, you know, seven
days a week and we'd be up thereon Sundays and Aaron and I
would be driving around and we'dbe talking about there's nobody
here.
Nobody is here for these peopleon Sunday.

(39:21):
These people are out here allon their own on Sundays and it
would just hit me like a ton ofrocks that we're all at home in
our little church buildings,we're doing church, we're
sitting in our nice little pews,where it's nice and warm, and
these people are out here tryingto scrap together whatever they
have left in the snow, freezingcold, and it just, you know, it

(39:45):
hit me that we can become sopolarized in what we think is
the right thing to do that wetotally miss what should be done
.

Shed Geek (39:55):
We check the boxes, don't we?
We check the boxes.
I have not missed a day ofchurch in 43 years.
I've been there every time thedoor's been open Sunday morning,
Sunday night, Wednesday night,prayer meetings on Tuesday.
You know this, that andwhatever.
On Thursday I'm thereconstantly.
I've heard from people who'veliterally said I went to church

(40:15):
for 30 years and then realized Ineeded saved you know, like how
funny that God will usesomething you know, uh, like
that for you to recognize.
You know, all of my time I'vespent here.
I thought I had the answer, Ithought I had a solution, but
it's just, you know, like we'vehad to reaffirm over and over
and over, like God, I'll moveout of this when you want me to

(40:36):
move out of it and I'll stayhere as long as you want me to,
because you are the provider ofthe opportunity.
No man is and guess what?
No man can shut it down as longas you want it to move forward.
So, as long as we continue notonly to give it to him first,
but to give it to him daily,it's only the trap that we fall
into and men were, wereespecially susceptible to this

(40:59):
of our ego of what I did, yeah,what I did.
Look at how much effort I putin.
You know, Curtis Creason, youknow, used to say I can't get up
and walk through the doorwithout his permission.

Sam Byler (41:12):
Yeah, no kidding.
Yeah.

Shed Geek (41:14):
What, what have?
I done what have I done what?
Have I done so anyway, I, Igosh dude, I'm just, I'm just
proud of you, happy to call yourfriend.
I love what you did.
I remember I think I told thisstory before when me and you
were giving away generators.
You know, Kyle made that postto uh, what's his name?

(41:37):
Down there in Waco, the um uhoh, chip, chip, chip, uh games,
right it was awesome.
He gave 10 grand and I was likeseriously, that's crazy uh,
yeah and that was amazing thathe did.
You know, and, um, I rememberhanding out those generators and
I just remember going.

(41:58):
People will know the magnolianetwork and chip gains and what
he stands for, because mostpeople just know him right, I
have the record.
You know name recognitionanyway.
You say Sam Byler, shed geek orKyle Summers, and people are
like who, I don't care, you know, I don't know who that is,
don't care, care, but they knowwhat Chip and Joanna stands for.

(42:18):
I was like you know I can take,I can take.
Think about that.
He gave 10 grand, which isabout 10 generators.
I think we gave away 50.
So, we raised the money for theother 40.
And instead, everyone that Ihanded away really grew his
network even more.
Cause I would ask people, haveyou ever heard of Chip Gaines

(42:41):
Magnolia network?
And they would say, oh, I lovethat show on HGT, blah, blah,
blah, whatever.
And I was like he actuallydonated this to you, yep, and
they're like, oh, will you tellhim?
I said thank you.
Well, I don't know Chip likethat, but it don't matter.
They didn't need to know that.
He gave to the cause and it wasa really nice thing to do.
The point was that they knewwhat his national name

(43:06):
recognition was, his product,his show, his all of that stuff.
And then they knew what hisconvictions were in the Lord.
They knew what his convictionswere in the Lord, so I can spend
some time talking to him aboutit, but I felt like you know,
chip gave the value far beyondyou know, trying to push Shannon
Latham, Shed Geek, Sam Byler,Shed Hauler Brotherhood.

(43:27):
You know what I mean.
Like you know, none of thatstuff really mattered.
It was just good to hand overthat and not have to take credit
for it and try to live up tothat, because it was just a you
know, now you, you are extreme,you take it to the next level.
You organized a group of guysfor six months and, uh, you know

(43:47):
, like I, I, I just you know, weneed some Sam Byler's out there
.
That's why we're not allsupposed to be the same Sam.

Sam Byler (43:57):
No, we definitely don't need everybody running
around like me either, that'sfor sure.

Shed Geek (44:05):
But they should all wear this getup that you got on
today.
I heard that let's talk aboutfreedom yeah.

Sam Byler (44:13):
What's your thoughts?
I want to finish up one morething on our wrap up, just uh.
So, I had put a post out acouple weeks ago that it's time
to finish up.
Um, I, I had felt like alreadya month before that, coming down
off the mountain one day, thelord told me that, um, basically

(44:34):
that I'm free to, if I need toget back to what I need to do or
whatever, that I pretty muchfelt released from it.
Aaron was with me.
He kind of felt the same thing.
We talked about it on the waydown and that was when my man, I
was having serious healthissues and we got past that a

(44:54):
little bit and then I was like,okay, if I do this, I want to,
at least I want to finish itstrong.
So I'll put a post out thereabout okay, let's get this thing
wrapped up.
Let's get it wrapped up by July4th.
I had a tremendous amount ofpeople reach out to me and say
what do we need to make thathappen?
What do you need to finish it?
What do you need for this orthat or whatever?
So, we're not finishing at allby dwindling and just dwindling

(45:21):
out and fading away.
We're finishing strong, with abang this next week.
This last week I've got shedsstill coming in from southern
Illinois, from western Kentucky,from central Kentucky, western
Tennessee.
I've got four haulers coming inthat are bringing those in and
then they'll also do a coupledeliveries when they're coming

(45:42):
in.
And Johnny Stahlsboost, mybuddy from PA, he's coming back
for the fourth time.
Man, I don't know how manytimes he's been down now, but
he's going to come back and makesure we get everything wrapped
up.
We're going to get it tidied up, wrapped up and I feel really

(46:03):
good about that, that we had thepeople that stepped up to give
the funds to finish it out, tomake sure we get everything done
and to get it out there andthen basically say we're
available for what needs tohappen, if something needs to
happen.
But basically, we're going backto what we were doing before.

(46:24):
I guess you would say.

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Sam Byler (47:27):
Now, that being said, even that has changed a lot for
me.
I've got stuff coming down thepipe now that I never thought
I'd have.
Opportunities to.
That are totally changing.
You know, by the time I get tothe expo this year, my life's
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That's the way it works.

(47:49):
And to have, yeah, to have thefreedom to be able to do that,
um, I never give a big enoughshout out to my wife and my
family because, ultimately, thefreedom that Sam Byler has in
doing everything he does comesbecause they're completely and
perfectly fine with him bouncingall over the place, winning and
losing and then proceeding fromthere.

(48:11):
So, we have the truck, we'redoing a truck giveaway.
You know that was my last biguh giveaway item push that we
were doing.
Um, by the time you guys hearthis, we'll be done and have
given it away to somebody.
But the fact that people havejust stepped up incredibly
strong at the end and just givea hundred bucks just to say that

(48:33):
hey, we, that, hey, we want tohelp you get done here.
I'm really excited about doingthat, having the truck giveaway
done up.
We have one more bang-bang thatwe're giving away.
I don't know if YouTube lets ussay that or not, but we're
doing that too.
Getting that done, that's allhappening.

(48:57):
July 4th um, we're having akind of low probe July 4th party
.
Um, I'm not putting it out onFacebook the way I normally do,
but I'm letting people know thatif they do want to come,
they're welcome to and we'llhave a decent.
We'll have a July 4th party.
And then, to wrap it up, do aFacebook Live, give the truck
away, kind of give the lastnumbers of what we've done.

(49:18):
Some shout-outs to some of thegroups.
I don't like doing shout-outsand thank yous to all the people
that help, because I'll misssomeone.
But there were definitely,definitely some of those that
stepped up.
You know Daniel Cain comingdown all the way from Maine
twice and bringing his rig downhere, um Hillview Barns up there

(49:44):
, you know, sending theirdrivers down here two different
times.
Maine's a long way from here, Iknow I, you know I had tons of
people come in from Michigan,had people from Wisconsin,
Minnesota, Texas, Oklahoma.
All those guys Vargas broughttons of barns in for us.
But Maine is a long way upthere and I just, you know, to

(50:11):
see some of the people just keepon doing it over and over
Liberty Sheds, over inStatesville, not that far away,
you know, ended up they got soexcited giving us sheds that
somehow they got three of theircustomers to donate sheds.
I haven't even figured that outor wrap my head around that.

(50:31):
I'm like what were they doingor what were they saying that
their customers actually OK.
So, I'm going to get on asoapbox here for two minutes and
you're just going to have to.
Let me do it.
We get it.
We grew up in this culture thatyou can't brag on yourself, you
can't brag on people.
Don't let the right hand knowwhat the left hand's doing.
All this stuff that we've hadcrammed down our throats.

(50:54):
That does nothing but hinderministry, does nothing but
hinder the mission, becausepeople get excited when you talk
about what's happening.
If you're not talking aboutwhat's happening, nobody can get
excited.
You follow where I'm going soyou end up having this company
over here that builds sheds andthey're like hey, we want to
help, we'll donate some sheds toyou.

(51:15):
So, they're hauler ArkeyHauling, Brant.
You know he's like.
You know these are the guysthat hosted the bash for us in
North Carolina.
They stepped up big time,hosted the whole bash, wanted to
do it, forked over a ton ofmoney to help us.
They were they're like hey, wewant to help with sheds.
You know, these are people inour area, we want to be to help.
There's a lot of shed companiesaround there that didn't help.
That goes home with them.

(51:37):
But Liberty says we want tohelp and somehow, by them
putting it on their Facebookpage or something, some of their
I guess previous customersfollow them on Facebook.
They probably saw it andthey're like hey, I want to help
.

Shed Geek (52:01):
No-transcript there is a Bible verse and this is
where you're going to get it.
This is where you're going toget it because this is a, this
is a this is turning into aministry related podcast episode
as much as anything but thereis a Bible verse in Matthew,
chapter six, verse two.

(52:22):
I'm going to go, I got them allhere, but let's go.
Let's go.
Niv.
I don't know People are goingto have their thoughts, no
matter what I do, no matter whatI bring up, but NIV, I'm just
for you know, simplicity here.
So, when you give to the needy,do not announce it with
trumpets as the hypocrites do inthe synagogues and on the

(52:45):
streets, to be honored by others.
Truly, I tell you they'vereceived their reward in full.
And I've thought about this fora long time because I saw guys
out there Dylan, marketing buddy, you know Dylan.
Dylan used to go out every nowand then and record himself
giving some waitress or waiter ahundred- dollar tip and got a

(53:11):
lot of hate for it.
And even myself I was kind oflike oh, why are you recording
it?
There was times that I would bejudgmental on that.
And he told me one day.
He said how many more peopleare inspired by seeing the story
.
Have you ever been touched by astory that you saw on video
about somebody helping?
I mean, it's on the news everynight.

(53:31):
These people did this for that.
I think the key is here, whereit says, as the hypocrites do in
the synagogues and on thestreet, to be honored by others.
To be honored by others.

Sam Byler (53:48):
You hit the nail on the head.
It's the motive.
It's the motive.

Shed Geek (53:52):
Why are you doing what you're doing?
And God is the only one who cansee up on the heart, right?
Man can't see up on the heart,so only God will know.
Are you giving that $100?
Are you donating sheds?
Are you helping a cause?
Are you?
Whatever it is you're doing,only God can really judge the

(54:17):
heart to know, and he willreward in public, right, he'll
reward in public what is done inprivate, so like, so like.
There's nothing wrong with umit.
It's a struggle because ofperception.
People would think, well, thisguy is just trying to build his
brand, or he's just trying tobuild his effectiveness or

(54:37):
opportunity for himself, which,first of all, you know we're
biblically as men, we aresupposed to work right, we're
supposed to work, you know, um,so.
So, it's one of those thingswe're like what's wrong with
building work for yourself firstof all, but let's if we can
even get past that.

(54:58):
Like I struggle, I've struggledwith talking about my faith on
the podcast, not because Istruggle with my faith, but
because I don't want people tothink I'm in a synagogue trying
to sell Jesus.
Yes, yep, you know what I'msaying.
Like don't you don't get to useJesus to promote your business.

(55:18):
And I'm like I don't you don'tget to use Jesus to make people
feel bad to work with you.
And I'm like oh yeah, I don'twant anyone working with me who
feels like they have to becauseof some.
You know, man, that's reallyright.
Sorry, rain, oh yeah, we getrain every day around here.

(55:40):
But yeah, I just I think youunderstand where I'm going with
that that I've changed mymindset.
You know, there's the Facebookpost that goes around of the guy
that's a cartoon characterhanding groceries to a needy
family and he's taking a selfieand he's smiling great, big and

(56:01):
it's like.
You know, you don't have tomake a spectacle when you give
Sam.
I can only imagine how manytimes you've given that you
haven't told anybody about it,and others too, and others too.
It's not just you, I mean,there's so many people who have,
but we are so quick to judge,you know.

(56:22):
I mean, I, I remember seeingthat after, uh, west Kentucky
and Mayfield and the tornado,the flooding happened and I
don't remember the gentleman'sname and please forgive me
because I'm not trying to pickon you by any means, but it was
maybe on the Shed Haulers pagewhere somebody said man, West
Kentucky gets a tornado andpeople come out of the woodwork
to help, but Eastern Kentuckygets flooded.

(56:44):
Nobody wants to show up andlike, yeah, I know I'm getting
in the weeds, aren't I?
We're going to lose somelisteners.

Sam Byler (56:50):
No, no, no.

Shed Geek (56:51):
No, stay it on.
But somebody commented what Iwanted to say and I was like oh
no, Shannon, you got this publicplace, you got to stay out of
controversy.
You don't get to becontroversial, you don't get to
talk.
You know, somebody said what Iwanted to say, which was in the
time you spent criticizing, youcould have been helping.

Sam Byler (57:11):
Yeah.

Shed Geek (57:13):
You know, I don't want to go to this church.
It doesn't have a good kidsprogram.
Maybe God's calling you tostart a good kids program
because the church needs one,since you're recognizing it.
It's not me to tell you what todo.
It's between you and God.
I'm just saying, you know it's,it's easy to criticize, but
like, how can well?
I mean Sam, in the last two orthree years you yourself, I

(57:37):
think, would admit you've askedfor a lot of the shed industry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's hard todo, it's hard to do, it's hard
to do that, it's hard to go backto that same.
Well, sometimes you know, likepeople, like man, I don't know,
I can't.
I gave a bill but maybe I can'tgive two.
Or gave, you know, a hundredbucks, but maybe I can't give

(57:58):
two hundred bucks.
I don't know.

Sam Byler (58:00):
I'm just saying it's tough but you know, God still
sees the heart you know what,for those on here that don't
follow me on Facebook, I made apost about that.
Oh, maybe a month ago, when Isat down and I actually started
putting all the budget numberstogether and stuff like that.
Believe it or not, I actuallydo love spreadsheets.

(58:21):
I'm a numbers guy.
Everything is numbers to me.
I love numbers.
I'm working on some projectsright now that are all about
numbers and it's like the besttime of my day working on these
numbers.
I just can't work on them allday because they don't pay good
yet.
But when I started actuallyputting the numbers together,

(58:41):
the fact that most of thefunding not, not the sheds, but
most of the funding that we gotto either buy more sheds, finish
sheds, give more supplies,whatever it was the majority of
the funding still comes from thelittle people.
I have, these little old ladiesthat nobody will ever know

(59:08):
about that send me their moneyevery week, every month, and
they do it without anyrecognition.
They don't want any recognition.
They don't even care about that.
I could, I could put their nameout and they wouldn't, whatever
.
Um, all of that stuff stilladds up more than the big dogs
and I kind of like that.

Shed Geek (59:27):
I love the dogs Don't get like that.

Sam Byler (59:28):
I love the big dogs, don't get me wrong.
I need them.
They're very important, andespecially the ones that donated
.
You know there's a rent-to-owncompany up in Ohio, actually two
.
There's two rent-to-owncompanies up in Ohio that
building count-wise, donatedmore than anybody did and they

(59:50):
don't want any recognition.
They don't want anybody to know.
There's, there's companies inNorth Carolina that did that.
There's Missouri, Illinois,Kentucky.
There's people all over theplace.
They're like look, we just wantto help.
What can we do to help you?
And that is perfectly fine.
I don't.
I've seen that on the podcast.

Shed Geek (01:00:10):
Yeah, I'm going to make a call right here to say,
if you want to be on, pleaseunderstand that your story is
important to other people.
I have one guy talk about howmuch he enjoyed listening to
podcasts, but he won't come onone and I said, without guys to

(01:00:31):
come on one, we won't have thosestories.
So, it's a place ofvulnerability where you get to
set.
It's not a place of bragging,because a lot of people are like
oh, I don't really knowanything, I don't really have
much to say, and I always laughbecause I think you know well,
didn't God make you unique?
Didn't he make you with aunique story?

(01:00:53):
I promise you your story, likeit's my job, it's Sam's job to
get that out of you, to ask theright questions so that you can
share, you know.
But that doesn't mean you'rebragging if you come on and talk
about your family history inthe shed world, right?
Or your product in the shedworld or your service in the
shed world there's nothing aboutit.
That's, uh, that's bragging.
You're sitting down, you'rehaving a conversation and it's,

(01:01:16):
it's.
It's just like you would aroundSam's campfire if you ever
visited there.
To me, that's.
I see it the same way.
We're just putting a microphoneto it.
There's no formality,everything's able to be edited.
So, feel free to reach out.
We want to talk to you, youknow, because the, yeah, the,
the content is, the is the key.
So, uh, you want to have goodyou know good content.

(01:01:39):
We want to ask good questionsand other people like to hear
your stories and when they'realone, the thing is Sam, me and
you'll get it.
You'll get the phone calls fromthe people who are like man, I
didn't know that about that guy.
I really liked that he saidthat, or I learned a lot from
that, or whatever.
I mean, that's how we learniron sharpens iron.
So, like you, know, let's talkabout it.
That's the way I look at it.
Let's talk about it, let'scommunicate.

(01:02:00):
You know um what else?
You got, Sam.
We got the truck.
It's going to be given away.

Sam Byler (01:02:08):
Forrest is coming up North Carolina.

Shed Geek (01:02:10):
We're coming up on an hour so I don't want to take
too much of your time.

Sam Byler (01:02:15):
We're good Starting to get into a time of the year
where I get crazy busy again.
A lot of that stuff was put onhold last year that I don't want
to miss this year.
We got the bash coming up inOctober.
Texas we're taking the bash toTexas Temple, Texas October 16th

(01:02:36):
and 17th.
That's coming right up.
There's still some.
I think Jason will still takesome sponsorships on those.
I'm actually taking a backburner this time because we got
the Texas barbecue guys that areworking.
Jason wanted to be back inworking again, so I'm kind of
just sitting on the side and letthem do their thing.

(01:02:56):
But it's going to be good.
It's going to be a big one.
The expo back in Knoxville thatsuits me 100%.
I love it in Knoxville, sothat'll be a good one.
The Indiana barbecue's comingup.
You know the Georgia barbecue'scoming up.
Indiana barbecue's in September, Georgia barbecue's in November

(01:03:17):
again.
So it's getting to the time ofyear where it just gets crazy.
I've got a trip to Colorado.
I've got two trips between nowand then that I got to get in.
So, and I'm working on I'mactually working on some stuff
that's outside the shed industry, so I don't yeah, those have

(01:03:38):
become my passion projects.

Shed Geek (01:03:42):
I'm still very passionate about sheds and what
we do.
I love to hear a good story, Ilove to sit down with somebody
and talk, but you know, likewe've even cut back on.
Honestly, I haven't been superaggressive on like the
advertising you know.
You know like just reallyanything here lately We've been
so we've been so, so busy withmarketing first, rent on.

(01:04:07):
Second, second, finance is goodand now working to try to get
ShedHub man.
That's going to be like we'redoing a lot of behind-the-scenes
stuff on that right now thatpeople don't see.
I wish I could just take someof those calls, some of the dev
calls and the marketing and thedev calls and the marketing and

(01:04:27):
where the marketing and the devteam these are people way
smarter than me we're havingsome very high- level
conversations.
I wish I could just put thatout as a podcast episode.
And maybe we can one of thesedays.
Maybe people would find itincredibly boring too, I don't
know, but listening to thesepeople smarter than me talk
about how to connect all of thethings that need to be connected

(01:04:50):
for better services, it's I'mlearning a lot through this
whole process.
Sam and the shed industrycontinues to serve man.
It's just been great.

Sam Byler (01:04:59):
I love the people.

Shed Geek (01:05:01):
I love the.
I even like the problems.
I just I just settled with Godone day and said I even liked
the backbiting.
I even like the problems.
I just settled with God one dayand said I even like the
backbiting, I even like thebackstabbing, I even like all
the garbage that goes with it.
I like it Because bring it onright, because God I'm going to
always try to find you in thatopportunity.
I'm going to find a way to pointto you.

(01:05:22):
I've got to find a way to, to,to overcome that situation so
that, so that you can beglorified, so that you can be
honored in the process, somehow,that way people can look.
You know it was the Bible say.
You know people, people lookedat it and said surely that has
to be God.
That's what I want people tothink whenever they, you know,

(01:05:45):
whenever that surely that had tobe God, and that's what we want
to point to.
I believe, I believe my, myfaith and conviction in God is
as strong now as it ever was atany time that I was in.
Uh, we've been looking for anew church home, but it's.
It's better even in thisprocess than when I was in

(01:06:06):
church.
Every time the doors were openI feel bad because, man, you can
just get so caught up in beingthere and, like you said, you
took church to the people inNorth Carolina you can get so
caught up in being in thebuilding you know praise and
worship, listening to the word,doing the Bible study, Sunday

(01:06:26):
school you get so caught up inbeing at church that you're not
doing church.

Sam Byler (01:06:33):
Yep.

Shed Geek (01:06:35):
So, anyway, I always love mine in your podcast.
They're just conversations thatme and you would have anyway.

Sam Byler (01:06:43):
Like you said, just stick a microphone and a camera
in your face and go through it.
These are the conversations wehave anyway.
So, it's all good, you want towrap up or you want me to wrap
it up.

Shed Geek (01:06:54):
Go ahead.
Whatever else is on your mind,go ahead and wrap up.

Sam Byler (01:06:58):
No, yeah, I'm good.
Like Shannon said earlier,we're always looking for more
people that want to come on andtell their stories, because
stories are.
You know.
I still stick with Shannon'sstatement that it's education
through entertainment.
That's what we get to do, andsometimes it's laughing,
sometimes it's crying, sometimesit's just bearing your heart

(01:07:22):
and just telling what happenedin your situation.
People need to hear that, andit's nothing but the devil
saying that.
Oh it's just, I'm not.
You know, that's testimony.
That's what it is.
We're supposed to givetestimony of what God's done,
and this is a perfect place foryou to do it.
It's a safe place to do it.
So, info@ shedgeek.
com.

Shed Geek (01:07:45):
Info@ shedgeek.
com.

Sam Byler (01:07:49):
You can send an email there.
You can reach out to us onFacebook.
Always read the newsletters andstuff.
Feel free to reach out to anyof us and we'll be more than
happy to sit down and have aconversation with you.
Thanks to all the guys thatsupport us doing this.
I know you said thatadvertising.
You know it's not as importantanymore, but thank you so much
to all the guys that support usthrough advertising.

(01:08:10):
Man, I'm so excited to see theChallengers starting to get out.
They're finally in production.
They you know they're one ofthe guys that advertise on our
show.
It's so nice to see on Facebookon the pages, that the machines
are rolling, they're going out,they're starting to get out

(01:08:31):
there.
So, reach out to those guys.
If you're looking for somethingHuge, shout out to Cardinal
Leasing and CardinalManufacturing.
Those guys always have my back.
They always support me.
They're good dudes.
I don't see anything but up forthose guys because they
continue to do business the wayit's supposed to be done.
So that's good.
Anyway,

Shed Geek (01:08:51):
Just to be clear, we're more than happy to have
advertising, you know, onespecially more shed hauler
related advertising, you know,especially on the Friday show.
So, you know, when I say we'renot as focused on it, what I
guess I mean is there was a timewhere it had to be my living,

(01:09:12):
it had to make a living for me,and God's blessed us with some
of these other opportunities.
So, what we've done is almostjust made it.
You know, I almost just wantedto be able to give it away at no
cost, but if anybody knowsanything about giving something
away for free, Sam, it's me andyou, and free is about you know,
what you know worth, about whatyou pay for it oh, that's true,

(01:09:33):
gotta be some reasonableaccountability.
So, but definitely happy topromote your products, your
services, things that you know.
Hey, man, we got a really coolplatform and it's digital.
So, guess what?
There's a lot of trackinganalytics that we can like use
to prove right you know what?
And the and the world is movingmore digital, even if the

(01:09:54):
industry is not the rest of theworld, saying we're not waiting
on you.

Sam Byler (01:09:57):
So yeah, I agree, cool deal All right, would you?

Shed Geek (01:10:03):
would you?
Would you want to, would you?
I, I haven't done this in awhile and I always feel bad.
I feel like you know, would youwant to pray over, like this,
North Carolina exit or wrap up,if you will?
Just?

Sam Byler (01:10:19):
the whole.
Thing.

Shed Geek (01:10:21):
I feel like we should pray over that, because you
know we say God's exalted.
We want to make sure he'sexalted in that.

Sam Byler (01:10:27):
Yeah yeah, we'll do it.
Um, I'm going to close with mylittle spiel first and then,
when we close, the prayer.
Uh, thank you guys for takingthe time to listen to another
episode of the shed geek podcast.
Friday fun day with Sambassador.
I host Sam Byler.
Thank you guys for joining usand for always supporting us and

(01:10:48):
being a part of us.
Lord, we love you.
We come before you.
We just thank you foreverything that you do for us.
We thank you for the freedomthat we have to be able to be in
a country where we can honorand glorify you and we can do
what we feel like we're calledto do from you, do what we feel
like we're called to do from you.
And, lord, I see, I see peopleall over the nation in the shed

(01:11:10):
industry that are doing this,that are doing their business
and their whatever they're doing, they're doing it to bring
honor and glory to you, and wejust happen to have a platform
to where we can talk about itand God, the stories that we've,
that we've gotten to listen to,and the people and the
relationships that we've gottento build.
God, I thank you so much forthose.
God, I just pray a blessing onthe shed industry today and over

(01:11:33):
the next coming weeks,everything would be done to your
honor and glory and that thesebusinesses would be blessed and
that we would continue to have acountry that lets us honor and
glorify you the way we do.
We love you, lord, in Jesus'name Amen.

Shed Geek (01:11:51):
Amen.

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