92 - Nancy Griffin helps women build wealth and good health - Sideline Sisters

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Hey everybody, welcome to this week's episode of Sideline
Sisters. I'm your host, Jenny Chaffetz,
And if you have been listening for a while now, I am so

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thankful that you continue to tune in week after week.
And if you're new to the show, I'm thrilled that you found it.
And I hope you love today's episode and settle in to binge
the many, many episodes that arenow available for you.
I'm excited about today's episode because I'm talking to
Nancy Griffin about wealth. And for the Die Hard Sideline

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Sisters listeners, you may recall that over a year ago I
interviewed Eileen Joy in episode 37 and we talked about
money stories and the sort of spiritual relationship that a
person has with money, which is always rooted in our childhood,
the messages we heard and thingswe experienced.

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So it's been a while since we talked about money, which is why
I'm thrilled to welcome Nancy Griffin, the CEO and founder of
Women Worth and Wellness. Nancy is a connector and
influencer. She attributes her success to
personal courage, determination,and joy when focusing on Women's
Health and Wellness, hence creating Women Worth and
Wellness. Nancy enjoys every opportunity

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to inspire and inform women about their personal health and
wealth, net worth and self worth, philanthropy and legacy
so that women feel fabulous, generous, joyful, confident and
on top of their game every day. Nancy Griffin established Women
Worth and Wellness in 1994 as a private client Wealth Advisor
for her female clients and theirfamilies.

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She continues to promote and inspire daring and caring
leaders, encouraging them to step up and lead in the world.
Following in the footsteps from many other powerful women
leaders in the past, Nancy's overall purpose is to connect
and influence for positive impact every chance she gets.
And you will hear that in this conversation.
You will hear a woman who bringsso much positivity to the work

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that she's doing and really justwants women to rise up and
accept the incredible power we have when it comes to making
money, spending money, and stewarding money.
And interestingly, this idea of women worth and Wellness ties
beautifully into what I'm working on at Gentle Coaching,

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which is Women's Health and Wellness and vitality.
So many women I know are just resigned to feel crappy as they
age or inherit the problems theysee in their families as far as
diseases and ailments go. And just as Nancy wants to
empower women and their wealth, I want to empower women and

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their health. She speaks to that as well.
But I'm really getting into the weeds with you in this new
program. As a vegan lifestyle coach, I
want to demystify existing beliefs around veganism,
simplify it and motivate you to take your health seriously, but
also as a fun adventure. And I will tell you, since going

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vegan, I have never eaten a morediverse and interesting array of
foods. When I was following the
standard American diet and counting and trucking and
weighing and measuring and all the things that women do, to
quote, stay healthy, I was eating the same boring foods

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over and over again. The same light, low fat, low
carb, low Cal, low taste things like white meat, chicken, Turkey
bacon, egg whites, skim milk, non fat yogurt.
And if you notice the pattern, those are all animal foods which
weren't helping my health. Interestingly, I slept poorly, I

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was bloated all the time, crazy inflammation to the point that I
had sinus surgery after years ofchronic infections.
And no surprise, no doctor ever advised me to change my diet in
order to reduce inflammation. It was just book this procedure.
I want to give you hope and let you know that when we're talking

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about going vegan, going plant based, going whole food plant
based, we're doing it in baby steps.
So if your attitude is well, I could go vegan, but I just can't
give up seafood. OK, We work with that.
We start there. That's a big bold step and I
want to tell everyone who doesn't know my story.

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Before I went vegan, just a few short months before I made the
switch, I owned a baking business where I used eggs,
butter and cream on the daily. Lots of it.
And I ate what I made. So in addition to all that low
fat protein that I mentioned, I was eating lots and lots of
cookie dough and buttercream frosting and chocolate and

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candy. So it's no wonder I felt crappy.
But so many of us don't even know we feel crappy because
that's how we feel every day. Which is why I'm launching a
four week quick start, because Iwant you to see in just four
weeks how you feel. And I am here as a coach to
guide and teach and support withcrazy amounts of cheerleading

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and knowledge. I want to give you all the
support that I would have loved to have back when I became
vegan, but I kind of navigated it myself because I couldn't
find a me to work with. So here I am, Jenny, a gentle
coaching, a vegan lifestyle coach, ready to share the wisdom

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and empower you to look and feelbetter than ever.
So check the show notes for the link or just head directly to
gentlecoaching.com/veganism. And let's just do this four
weeks. Grab a friend to do it with you.
And if you get your friend to sign up, you'll receive a
referral reward. Now let's get into today's

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conversation with Nancy Griffin.Welcome Nancy Griffin to the
Sideline Sisters Podcast. Thank you, Jenny.
This is very exciting, very exciting.
Good for you to be doing all that you're doing.
I appreciate that and send the sentiment right back to you.
As we were chatting before pressing record, there was a lot

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of your story that you gave to me.
And I'm going to start off by onthis note to the audience that
is so relatable, which is you had a corporate career, a lot of
women do, and then found yourself at a certain point

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needing to redesign your life. Yeah, redirect, redesign.
And so that in and of itself is incredibly relatable, whether
it's pushed on someone or self driven.
A lot of this audience being midlife women find themselves at

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a point of that was then, this is now what, what do I do?
How did that look for you? How did you manage that point of
your life? Well, I think the biggest aha is
when you realize that this is your life.
And as I mentioned, we often getcaught up in everybody else's

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and you know, it just we're justnot spending the time talking to
ourselves and saying, Oh my goodness.
OK, well, this is where I'm at and this is really interesting.
And you know, this is something that worked, but this is
something that didn't work that I'm really disappointed about.
But then it's like, OK, So what?Now what?
And now what am I going to do? But then coming back to you,

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it's like, what do I want one ofmy responsibilities to my
family, to, you know, my currentreality?
What are my responsibilities? Obviously you're not going to
compromise them, But at the sametime, there's always time for
you to get to where you want to go without giving up on those
responsibilities. So having a big talk with

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yourself on an ongoing basis is really, really, really key.
Isn't that the truth? And what did that look like for
you? I mean, it's so nice to tell
people, talk to yourself. So what now what?
Ask yourself, what's my what's my passion?
What's my purpose? But what is the reality of that?
What does that really look like?What did that look like for you?

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OK, well when I was at Procter and Gamble, I had AVP who would
never let me resign. I tried to resign two or three
times, but he never ever actively said, OK, well, how can
we maximize what you're able to do here?
It was always what he wanted me to do.
So finally I realized, you know what I just said, this is my

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life. This is not working.
This is not making me happy. I'm not going where I'd like to
go. And then it's like, well, where
would you like to go? And it's kind of like, well, I
don't know. Because you really have to
release yourself from this wholecloud that has been over you.
Because always when it's somebody in a more senior role,
you're always very respectful ofwho they are and what they have

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to say and what they're preparedto do for you.
But at the end of the day, if it's not working, then sometimes
you have to just go and then trust the fact that that the
universe will unfold and something will happen.
So I, I left, as I mentioned, because we had a, a community
incident and I had just gone on the board of our Community

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Association. And once you step out of
corporate life into a community role, it is a whole, whole new
world. You know, the one thing that I
noticed when you're in a corporate role, there's a
hierarchy and you have certain power with that hierarchy.
Once you get into the community,there is no hierarchy.
Everybody has a voice, everybodyhas a right to their opinion.

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So it's a matter of, OK, what are you trying to do and how can
you accommodate a lot of those opinions to get to next?
So it's it's, it's an interesting difference, really
interesting. And you wouldn't think it, you
wouldn't think it would be so severe, but it is.
Yes, I might. I might think it would be that

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severe. I mean, if you live in
community, you know, everyone's,everyone's got something to say.
Yeah. Exactly.
Exactly. So once you left corporate, what
did your intuition, your inner voice tell you to do next?

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Well, I always had leadership capabilities, and I think at the
end of the day with Procter and Gamble, they were just not being
honored to the extent that they could have been.
So as soon as I got into the community, I mean, leadership,
everybody wants you to be a leader.
And the more you do, the more they want you to do.
You know, you're being recruitedall over the place.
And that's when I said, Oh my goodness, after three years of

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this, it's never ending. And so it was at that point that
I thought I need to get another role, corporate role, out of the
community. And one thing that I'd done a
lot of at Procter and Gamble wasoutplacement consulting.
So it was an outplacement Consulting Group that recruited
me to work with them. Through that process, I met one

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of their recent clients, I guesswho'd been outplaced at VP of
American Express. And she got to know me and she
said, Nancy, I'm not sure why you're thinking that this is a
good thing to be doing. This is in the 90s.
And she's the one with her bag load of money who got into
wealth management. And she said, really, I think
you should take a look at that as a whole new career because

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really how women are being looked after in this industry is
shameful. So meet with my boss, met with
him, He and I headed off immediately said, OK, well,
you've got to have licenses. You can't just put out a shingle
and, you know, whatever. So away I went.
And once I got in to the whole wealth management scenario, it
was like, this is amazing. I should have been here 20 years

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earlier because in terms of leadership, you're with a great
organization, you've got all your licenses.
But now what? Well, now you got to go find
your own clients. So now it's leadership to the
Max. If you're so smart, you go
figure it out and find out who you can you can work with and
add your unique value to. And that's when I started to

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focus on women and not exclusively, but spent a lot of
time with women. Obviously, the more women I got
to know and their situations, the more you could see all sorts
of challenges that women were facing.
And that's where the Women Worthand Wellness brand came from.
I started in wealth management in 92 and formed the brand in

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94. So this this year it's 31 years
and focusing on on health as thecornerstone to your wealth
scenario. And a lot of what's included in
a fabulous wealth plan is anticipating health challenges
so that when they happen, you'rewell protected like critical

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illness or disability or premature death, whatever.
And so back it up. I wanted women to be healthy.
So what do we need to do in order to be healthy?
Certainly a lot of it has increased awareness.
And then secondly, to make it a priority as part of your living
and obviously as part of your overall wealth plan.

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So you know it, it really was one door closed and it evolved
with another person. If you know one of my I used to
do a lot of career counseling atProcter and Gamble.
One of my best career counselingadvices is pay attention to what
other people think you should bedoing.
I never would have been in wealth management had it not
been for this woman turning my head 180° and saying oh so.

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Look over here. Yeah, exactly.
You know, you just, it's, it's, I mean, it's your life and it's
an adventure. And it's like being a family on
the wall, watching it all unfold.
Yeah, I mean, you don't know what you don't know.
And so if someone gives you a little bit of insight, oh, how
about that? Yeah, I love that.
Now I get the whole, you know, check out the women and wealth

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thing. So that sparked something in
you. Now we're going over there.
Was there something or anything in your childhood, in your
background, in your view of lifeand existence that triggered the
health aspect of it? Was there, You know, what were
the messages you were given growing up?

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Well, I think each of our mothers would have told us, you
know, if you don't eat your breakfast, you're not going to,
you know, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I think our mothers always were focused on our health.
And my mother was just like that.
She would often say, if you don't have your health, you
don't have anything. Like your health is your AAA one
asset and you know that kept ringing in the back of my head

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all the way along. The irony is that she died 2
years before I got into the business, which is too bad
because she and I would have hadwonderful conversations.
But the other thing too is I should have been a wealth
advisory right out of school because my dad always was an
investor. And then my mother started her
own stock account, did her own research.

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And this was already happening in my life.
But it wasn't a career that I had considered, which was most
unfortunate. You know, there it all was.
But the good news is, is that I did end up in that career
eventually. And of course from both my
father and my mother brought forward things that had
surrounded me earlier on. So when you did decide to go

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into this field, did you notice a heightened awareness among
your peers? Did you?
Were you motivated by certain things around you?
Were there things you were seeing gaps or needs amongst
your friends, community members,you know, neighbors and and

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yeah, associates? No, definitely.
It's, it's a fabulous business. It really, really is incredible
because you're working with all sorts of different investment
companies. You know, Fidelity, for example,
you would know Fidelity, They'rea super company, really super.
And so you're learning a tremendous amount about all of
the things that they're investing in and why.

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And when you're a wealth advisor, obviously the most
important thing is that you haveto know your client.
It's like going to the doctor. The first thing they do is take
blood work. You know, you've got to get a
read on who is this person and what are they doing?
And so the whole focus on women was really interesting.
And this one company in Canada, investment company, they had a

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program that said, I think it was investing in yourself,
investing for the future, really, really great.
They put it all together. And so I worked with that
company to do one of my first events.
And I think I had 172 women thatshowed up because it was such a
great program and it was such great content for me to share

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with these women. And a lot of those women became
clients. And as you start to work with
those women, then you really start to get an appreciation for
what in the world is going on intheir lives that this whole
wealth plan must support. And so it was a real pleasure,
you know, real pleasure to work with all of these clients.
Really terrific. What would you say are some of

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the biggest needs amongst the women that you did meet and the
women who are listening? Well, often in situations it's
the mom who looks after health and it's dad who looks after the
finances, not not the day-to-dayexpenses, but it's the
investments. And so a lot of women, this is

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the relationship that they've formed to begin with.
So what is most important is that that woman steps up and
takes an equal amount of responsibility on the whole
planning for the future, the whole wealth plan.
We know that women make 85% of the buying decisions.
So why in the world are they nottotally engaged in this whole

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scenario? And you know now what's
happening, Fast forward 30 yearslater, women are earning way
more than they've ever earned before.
So stewarding that wealth, but they're also inheriting wealth
with a whole lot more to come. That's a whole new power
opportunity, but a learning opportunity because women's

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philanthropy is quite different from men's and, and it's just
starting to evolve because women, women don't like to be
front and center. Women don't like to step out and
name buildings and wings of hospitals and all those kinds of
things. They just don't do those sorts
of things. But more and more, this is the
power that they have. And So what will they do with

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that power And, and are they aware of all of the
possibilities of that power? Say more about that.
Well, well, you can see Mackenzie Scott and you can see
Melinda Frenchgates, what they're doing.
They're real Trail Blazers. I really love what they're
doing. And so this is what women have
to decide is really what do you care about?

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What do you care about? And do you care enough that you
want to use your wealth power todo something?
And in doing something, do you want to single yourself out?
Because you know, sometimes women say to about other women,
who does she think she is? Like why is she doing that?
And so this is the dilemma that women have.

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Am I going to do something? If I am going to do something,
how public am I going to be? The other thing too is women
never want to make a wrong decision.
And so if you do decide to support a certain organization,
how do you know how well that organization is looking after
their business? Because if you do decide to step

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up and you give money and you find out that, you know,
something was fraudulent or something wasn't efficient, then
that comes back on you and causes you to, you know, do a
turtle and just retreat, right? So there's lots going on in that
whole area. Pardon the Interruption, but I
have to ask, how are you feeling?

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Like legit, how do you feel day in and day out?
Because if your answer is tired,bloated, achy, brain foggy,
irritable, then that's not good.That's not the way we were meant
to live and somehow so many of us accept that fate.

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We just think it's natural to get older and feel crappier.
But my friends, it doesn't have to be that way.
So I want to invite you into my plant based group program and
let me just clarify this is meant for you.
If you want to take your health seriously, you're done dieting
and you just want to freaking feel good, I'm offering you

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support, guidance, cheerleading,recipes, checklists, all kinds
of good stuff in a community so that you don't feel restricted
and deprived and lonely. Think of it as dating veganism.
You don't have to marry it. Just go on a few dates, see how
it goes. So please check the show notes

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or go right to gentlecoaching.com/veganism and
let's get started. Oh, and if you refer someone who
signs up, I will send you $100. Now let's get back to the
episode. So what do you say to women who
are hesitant to to make a big bold decision, either because
they've messed up in the past orand for people listening, I used

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air quotes there or they've justnever done it before.
Well, it's just a whole bunch ofdialogue.
It's a whole bunch of back and forth and conversation and what
do you feel comfortable with? And maybe you start small and
then amplify from there. It's just everybody's different,
everybody's unique, Everybody's got a different amount of money.

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Everybody feels differently about that amount of money and
what they want to do with it. So as a wealth advisor, you end
up being a mini psychologist. You really are because at the
end of the day, your value is tohelp that person be the best
they possibly can be with their wealth, supporting who they are
and what they want. So, you know, it's, it's, it's

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small steps and lots of dialogue.
What I always focused on was when my clients left my office,
I wanted them to understand whatwe just agreed to or discussed.
And maybe part of the agreement was, we'll talk about this
again, you know, in a month or two, think about it, whatever.
But for that person to feel veryconfident in their own mind that

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they knew what that conversationwas all about and what they can
possibly do, what action they can take, even if it's nothing
as a result of that conversation.
In the absence of that, this is just swirling around in a
person's head. And it's like, you know, well,
you're in New Hampshire. You know, you've got snow.
It's like being stuck in the snow, like, am I going anywhere?

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No. And and then sometimes it's
stressful because you think you should be going somewhere, but
you don't know which way to go. So this is the conversation that
a wealth advisor can have with their clients to help them move
off the mark. Yes, that's a very clear visual.
Being. Stuck in the snow.

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, for anyone who lives, I
don't know, north of Virginia orsome they they got a clear
picture on that. So at this age that a lot of the
listeners are at this sort of midlife vague, I don't know,
40s, fifties, let well, let's let's go with the assumption

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that they've accumulated some wealth that there's, you know,
that through career or, you know, I've heard you say
inheritance. Let's assume that there's some
money to work with. I feel like there's two camps
here. Either the people who say, wow,
you know, I'm on the downslope of life, time to live large,
let's do something with it. Or the holy crap, I I've made

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all this money. But you know, looking at the
future, I gotta, I got to protect it because I'm nervous.
I don't know what circumstances I'll be faced with.
What do you say about that dilemma?
It's both. You have to do both.
Like you've got to live your life.
You have to get some reward for how well you have done to get to

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this point with that amount of wealth that you're that you're
really discussing options. And you know, really that's why
you have to do both. You have to live your life.
But at the same time, you can't be frivolous.
Like you can't be silly. I was just with a former client
who's with a new advisor and shewas having a review and she

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said, Nancy, I'd really like youto listen in on this
conversation. I know him and he knows me, but
he did not know that I was listening.
She said, I just want to have a level of confidence that I'm not
missing anything. So anyway, I was so impressed
because she's living large, but at the same time, you know,
she's 78 and life is probably going to become more expensive

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going forward. What I heard him say was you
don't have to worry for three. And we all know what's happening
with the stock markets. They're all over the place.
And So what he said to her was, I've set aside enough money to
support your needs for the next three years.
And that will be revolving. So every time a year unfolds,

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then it's another whole. So she has a level of confidence
that the markets go way up or way down.
She's OK. And I thought that was very,
very impressive. And then he went on to talk
about things that he was sellingand replacing, you know, some
that have done exceptionally well.
Time to take a profit. And this is what I'm looking at
investing as a result of that, he really, really took her

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through the whole scenario, explained everything to the
point where at the end of that conversation, she really had a
level of confidence that she could keep on living large,
which she's doing, But at the same time know that he has her
best interests in mind for her eventual future, which could be
more expensive. Then at that point in time, I

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kicked in and said, fabulous, I've been listening.
This is perfect, this is wonderful.
And you know, that was just a reinforcement to him to keep on
doing all the good things that we've always known he he did do.
But she really did have a level of confidence.
And so a lot of these podcasts I've talked about everybody
needs a trusted advisor, especially pertaining to your

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wealth scenario. And clearly that's who he is.
And that's what some what everyone should have.
So, you know, back to your point, you know, do I go bake or
do I hold? Well, you should probably be
doing both. And the question to the wealth
advisor is given all of my wealth, how can I do both?
How can I do both exceptionally well?

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So your business, your mission, women worth and Wellness.
What does? What does it look like?
What's the picture you see of a woman living fully?
Well, well, one topic that I picked up on recently that
you'll get a kick out of his menopause.
And I, I came roaring out on this topic because we have Sinai

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Hospital in Toronto who came up with a hot and bothered
campaign. They put it front and center.
And normally, of course, more people are talking about
menopause, but even still not talking it to its full extent.
And it caught my attention and Ithought, Oh, my goodness, this
is so important because women's leadership trajectory is just

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kicking up in such a positive way when they're in their 40s.
And that's exactly when these symptoms kick in.
And the last thing that women ever want to be is embarrassed.
And so often you step aside, yousay, Oh, no, I can't do that
because they'll be, I'll have a hot flash or, you know,
whatever. And so I picked it up and, you

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know, have pushed it out. I did a virtual and then I did
a, another event afterwards. And I'll probably keep on going
on this topic because there's somany aspects to menopause, so
many aspects. And it is, it's kept so like
it's such an uncomfortable topicto bring up.
I actually was invited to do a presentation to a a wealth

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advisory group, mostly men, and this one gentleman, he said, Oh
my goodness, he said. I thought it was hot flashes
only. Wow, I've had multiple
physicians on this show and I just interviewed another one the
other day and it is mind blowingthe extensive list of symptoms

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that that end up being treated by other pharmaceuticals and
interventions when it's not anxiety or it's not some sort of
skin disease or something, it's all related.
I know amazing. Well, you know, when you're a
wealth advisor, you're licensed for investments and insurance.

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And I often say, if you want to find out how healthy you are,
apply for life insurance becausethey go over your entire
well-being with a very fine tooth comb.
And more often than not, it doesn't come back.
OK, This person's in perfect health.
We, they, we give them the best premium.
They'll come back with some rating.
And one of the ratings could be early dementia, which is

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probably brain fog, right? So that's what I'm talking
about. So you can see the implications.
And that's why awareness is crucial and Women's Health
research is crucial. Like, wait a minute, this is not
early dementia. This is what brain fog is.
So what do we do about that? If if someone is in this

(31:25):
situation where that diagnosis is given to them but it's it's
inaccurate, then what? Well, that's why, you know, it
goes back to the trusted advisorfor both your health and your
wealth. And if it comes back that way,
you say, I want a second opinionand you find a second opinion

(31:46):
from the best resource you can locate.
And and that's often very, very challenging.
But this Sinai Health that did the hot and bothered.
I just had a meeting with them yesterday and we're planning on
doing a whole lot more on this topic, including raising some
money. I said I hope to raise
$1,000,000, a $1000 from 1000 women.

(32:07):
Like who's not prepared to invest $1000 into better
research into this whole topic and really bring it front and
center. And I mean, you know the
expression go big or go home. We're now saying go big and
don't go home. Like keep going, keep going.
Keep. Going, you know, don't step up

(32:29):
because the world needs many more women in leadership roles.
Yeah, we need this mission, not just in Toronto, but bring that
down here. Exactly everywhere.
Everywhere, Nancy, you're not done You.
You have a global crusade ahead of you.
That's it. Well, it's interesting with
these podcasting experiences because literally it's women

(32:50):
from all over the world. And to your point, it's 100%
spot on, 100% spot on. And, you know, my mission is to
focus on all of this because we need more women leaders.
You know, we see what in the world's going on and women would
not be as inhumane as we're seeing a lot of things.

(33:11):
So obviously we're not going to talk politics, But you know,
that's my mission underlying like, you know, first of all,
pay attention to your health because that's your greatest
asset. And then get out there and keep
going and put your uniqueness forward, really.
I love that. So we were talking a little bit

(33:31):
about that sort of maybe not occupational, but other purpose,
other drive, and you talked about the age of integrity in
our conversation before. Tell the audience what that
means if no one's encountered that phrase before.
Well, the community in which I live has so many amazing women

(33:56):
that are over 80 that are doing incredible things.
So I want to start, I'm going tostart a Women Worth and Wellness
awards event. I'm just in the process of
ramping that up. And we have the oldest community
newspaper in Canada, 1830. Most of them are gone.
This one had two English professors, a couple land in the

(34:20):
community during COVID, and they'd always decided to use
their journalistic talents for community enhancement.
You wouldn't believe what they're doing.
I mean, they're so impressive. So it's a couple and wait till I
tell you. I mean, they're just amazing.
Their parents to two sets of twins plus one.

(34:42):
Like they're busy people. So Karen, Karen, it's Karen and
Chris. And so I said to Karen, I want
her to help me promote this women worth and Wellness age of
integrity award ceremony. And I said, I want to start it
for 65 plus. She said, Nancy, you got to
start it at 50, like 50. People need to get the message.

(35:03):
And very simply, age of integrity, as I can't believe
I've lived this long, I can't believe I've done this well.
And I really want to give back in a small way, a large way,
whatever, but I really want to give way in a very, very
positive way. And so it's a whole concept that
I think can really be brought front and center to help women

(35:25):
realize the power that they have.
And often it's just, you know, kindness is the beginning and
reaching out and supporting others.
And then you know, this one woman, she started a school in
Ghana and, and she's doing amazing things.
Another woman had a whole radio career and she interviews people

(35:45):
who are reading books and she issuch a skillful interviewer.
Another one we've got, well, we're on Lake Ontario, we've got
this terrific, huge, wonderful rural bunch of land.
She's got a South Shore joint initiative.
She managed through her influence and her work on this
board at well as the executive director to get 400 acres turned

(36:11):
into a provincial park. So I mean, these women are just
Trail Blazers to the Max and they're not stopping anytime
soon, which is amazing. Right.
Thank God. Exactly.
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(37:17):
on board, they're they're, they're now feeling tingles
inside of OK, I've got some comfort in the bank and I'm
inspired with the women Nancy just mentioned.
I don't know what to do though. I don't know where to start.
I, I would like to have more goodness, community involvement.

(37:41):
I don't know what to do. What would you say to them?
OK, well, it's really like pick your passion.
But I will also say be really, really careful of how you step
out. So it's really good to
participate in many different events.
So you get a feeling for who's doing what, but more
importantly, you get a feeling for who are these people?

(38:05):
Because the worst thing that youcan do is step into a group
that's not your group and then try to back out of it.
That's not, not not a good thingat all.
So proceed with caution. But you know, there are lots of
things going on in communities. And, you know, you say to
yourself, what do you care about?
Do you care about kids? Do you care about animals?

(38:26):
Do you care about what in the world's going on?
What do you care about? Do you care politically?
You know, often that's a good place to begin.
And often it's good to go. You know, I always found that
with women, they like to go witha friend or two or three and
when they go, then they become alittle mini group to talk about
what they experienced and then they'll more often share it

(38:47):
like, wow, this was amazing. Let's you know, have you thought
about doing whatever and and being with other people and
being part of these groups is fun.
That's assuming you get with theright one that you care about.
South, proceed with caution. Be careful, but don't don't hide
under the couch and stay at home.
Like get out there and do something.

(39:07):
Yeah, I love that. Do not stay under the couch.
Don't stay on the couch. Don't, don't stay by the couch.
Just get out. Which which also connects to my
next question, which is you mentioned to me, it doesn't
matter how much money you have if your health is garbage.
So what does that inspire you todo?

(39:30):
What do you do to promote good health?
Very good question, very good question.
I mean, we all know we need exercise.
We all need, we all know that weneed to eat properly.
I think again, going back to my earlier point, see if you can
find a trusted advisor who can help you with like if something,
if your health isn't great, where where do you go?

(39:51):
Do you go to the emerge? Do you have a doctor?
Do you have a health practitioner?
Who, where do you go? If you've got a question and see
if you can get something in place so that you've got that
level of confidence, you've got to go to.
I'm lucky to be healthy. So far, so good.
My husband, not so much. My doctor is terrific.
He finally agreed to take on my husband, who needs the help.

(40:14):
And it's amazing to see how wellhe's being looked after.
Doesn't take a lot of time, you know, And more often than not,
you're texting a lot. But then you set up, you know,
he's got blood pressure challenges.
OK, I want you to come back in amonth.
This is a new medication. And before you come, go get
blood work. OK, so now he's got another
opportunity for a check in. So my point is try to find a

(40:38):
trusted advisor who can help youwith your health.
But again, we know, we know whatwe should be doing.
If you've already got something that is a challenge health wise,
like COPD, which is what he has,or you know, who knows?
Maybe it's heart disease in yourfamily, who knows?
So kind of know your health MO and and pay attention to it, but

(41:02):
at the same time, you know, don't sit on the couch, get out
and keep going. He my husband has a 94 year old
sister who's had everything go wrong with her recently.
She broke her pelvis. So we thought and she's in the
hospital. We thought OK, this is the end.
Nope. And her attitude is keep moving,

(41:23):
keep moving. So keep moving.
So when something happens, don'tlet it be a show stopper.
You have such a great spirit andpurpose behind you.
Who inspires you? Well, my mother continues to
inspire me and I, there are justmany people.
I'm a Rotarian. I just finished up as the

(41:45):
president of our club. And through that process you
meet all sorts of inspiring people.
You just, you know, it's amazing.
And of course, because of the whole purpose of Rotary, which
is to, you know, fundraise and then support give back through
that process, you meet all sortsof different people doing
different things of, you know, not-for-profit.

(42:07):
So lots of inspiration coming from lots of different places.
My, my, probably one of my immediate inspirations is a real
estate agent with whom I went tothe Rotary International
Convention in Calgary and we presented ourselves as the
Thelma and Louise from Picton and Rotary.

(42:28):
And she's 82 and she is amazing.The whole time we're there,
she's doing deals, she's talkingon the phone.
She's, you know, she's got all sorts of challenges, but she
deals with them all with grace and determination.
And I thought I was doing a lot,but keeping up with her is a
challenge. And so, you know, you just take
a second look at people around you who are doing amazing

(42:52):
things, and you'll find that they just send that inspiration
right back to you. That's so good.
You know, I love that you mention these, if it's fair to
say, elderly people. Of course.
Because I've heard you talk about ageism, and I certainly
don't want to be offensive in that realm, but it just sounds

(43:18):
like people who inspire you happen to be older.
And we live in a world that that, or at least where I, I
don't know, in America, elderly people are forgotten.
Their sidelines. Yeah, they're sidelined.
So, you know, in the spirit of this podcast, how do we get them

(43:43):
off the sidelines? How do you suggest we shift the
commentary on ageism? Well, first of all, don't let
yourself be sidelined and at theage of 40 or 50, know that
you've probably got another 50 years to go.
So that's a lot of time. But at the same time, it's a

(44:05):
privilege because we know there's so many in the so many
people in this world who just don't live that long.
And that was part of my menopause presentation.
You know, think about it, every single woman in this entire
world who has lived this long will go through menopause.
I mean, think about it, it's mind boggling.
But don't allow yourself to be sidelined.
And more often than not, how we become sidelined. 2 things.

(44:29):
One is your attitude, of course.But the second thing is don't
let your health fail because if your health fails, then you're
going to be dependent on somebody else.
That I have this one lady that Idid so many different events
with and she said, never get yourself to the point where you
can't get off the toilet. If you can't get off the toilet,
then guess what? You're needing help.

(44:49):
If you need help now, you're vulnerable.
So that's why you know the 94 year old who says keep moving.
It's spot on. Like don't.
Don't allow yourself to be sidelined.
Well, if that's a visual people can't grasp, I don't know what
is. I mean, there's a lot of things
that people might not be able torelate to Snow, you know,

(45:13):
sailing on on the the lake that you might be near.
But the toilet is one that everybody visits several times a
day. So as women, we know that we we
sit down on a toilet and need toget off of it.
That's a good one. This lady's terrific.
I I'm about to do possibly another, I may tie her in with

(45:36):
this idea of the age of integrity awards because you
know, she'll, I mean, she is so inspiring.
You just have to tell people to be prepared to be scraped off
the ceiling because she just winds everybody up.
She's written a book. This is probably 10 years ago
now, and it's called Use the good dishes.
Use the. Good dishes.

(45:56):
Like, you know, what are you doing?
Why wouldn't you use the good dishes?
And So what if one breaks? So.
Good, it is so good. And then she became a rapper.
So she wrote poetry and then turned it into rapping.
No, she's amazing. She is really, really
incredible. Who is this woman?

(46:17):
Her name is Elaine Dembe. You could reach out Doctor
Elaine Dembe DE MB E and she is?Well, I have to tell you a story
about her. We did an event on March the
11th, 2020. Oh wow.
And we crafted it the previous December.
You know, what's the theme, what's the, you know, agenda,
blah, blah, blah. And it was, we're heading into

(46:40):
2020, right? So it was 2020.
Perfect vision for the road ahead.
God, that's brilliant. And that's the.
Day the world fell apart. But I had all the I had 127
women and they. And the way women behave is
often, you know, it's like a grass fire.
They hear that this event and are you going to that.

(47:02):
Well, I didn't hear about it. I wonder if I can still get that
morning we had 15 women sign up.You know, three at a time.
Whatever. And the lady who was doing the
hospitality, I said can you accommodate?
Yeah. Oh yeah, whatever.
She was a loaves and fishes. Anyway, this Elaine Demi was the
featured speaker. But then we had three other
women business owners sharing their story about perfect vision

(47:24):
for the road ahead. And of course, had it happened a
day later, people would have been canceling left, right and
center. So Elaine and I still laugh
about that. Like, Can you believe?
Can you believe that? How fortuitous.
Wow. Exactly.
That's amazing. That's so good.

(47:44):
So before we wrap up, I'm just curious, what are your favorite
ways to promote your own health?Well, first of all, don't, don't
take your health for granted. Like the fact that you get up in
the morning and expect your bodyto just go, go, go, go, go.
Like really don't take it for granted.

(48:05):
And any chance I get to reinforce good health through
that, we've got a brand new hospital that's being built.
So be supportive of that whole initiative.
I mentioned Sinai Health, I'm probably doing a golf tournament
for another hospital that's brand new in the community that
we move from. So it's get in the middle of

(48:26):
people who are doing health related events.
And actually that's a great way for people to step out into the
community is focusing on your local hospital because everybody
needs a hospital close by. And that's a great way to find
out some, you know, some some good people, some good
possibilities, some good ways tofundraise, you know, whatever.

(48:49):
So any chance I get to promote good health, obviously I do
that. And just, you know, I tell
people your, your health is yourgreatest asset.
It really is. As long as you can get up and
move around, you know there are there are new opportunities for
you to experience, to put a smile on your face like you're

(49:10):
smiling now. And.
You're making me smile. But it's true, you know, you
just, we just take our health for granted so much.
And but So what, you know, keep moving and get out there and do
something. You know, someone said to me the
other day, people suck. The world is full of, you know,
terrible people and angry, complaining, just just negative

(49:36):
people. And the reason I continue with
this show, interview after interview after interview, is to
connect with people like you whobring a smile to my face.
So. Perfect.
Wonderful. Thank.
Thank you for that. Wonderful.
My pleasure. I enjoy it and you enjoy it.
You know, that's what we're doing, which is wonderful.

(49:57):
Really, really good. Yeah, yeah.
So I'm just so grateful that youtook the time to come on and and
encourage, inspire these listeners to focus on their
health, their overall health andwell-being, which obviously
includes A wealth plan. Correct.
Well, I'll just say one more thing that just came to mind and

(50:19):
that is I saw some things recently about youth and mental
health. I mean, that's a big, huge
challenge. Huge challenge.
I mean, we're we're all that much older.
But if you're a young person today, I think it's really,
really difficult. But as a parent, this is
something that they suggested you say.
So when your child comes home from school, we're always

(50:40):
anxious to know well, what happened today, but but reframe
that question so that they get used to you being them being
prepared because they know you're going to ask the
question, what's 1 good thing that happened today?
So what's 1 good thing that happened today?
So you get you're creating a mindset of positivity rather

(51:02):
than Oh my God, that that soundsawful.
Well, you know, blah blah, blah,blah.
So just don't focus on the negative.
Right. So instead of how was your day,
which is so vague and so oh, it was crap, everything went.
Just tell me one good thing exactly if everything else turns
to crap. Today I had a great conversation
with Nancy. There you go, life is good.

(51:25):
Right, right. No matter what else transpires,
I had a great chat with Nancy today, so let's look.
At that. Exactly.
Well, thank you, Jenny. It was a pleasure.
All right, so before I let you go, please tell everybody where
they can be more inspired by you.
OK, well, we're on all the social medias and if you don't

(51:46):
have that info, then I'll make sure you do have it.
But if anybody's got a direct question right now, just send me
an e-mail. It's Nancy at
womenworthwellness.com. You know, send me a question,
I'm happy to respond. No problem.
My pleasure. And so with that, I want to
invite you to raise a glass. I've got my coffee cup.

(52:07):
Perfect. Love it.
Hello, lovely to you and we are going to say cheers to getting
off the couch and doing something.
Right. Exactly.
Nice. To you.
Move, move, move, move. Amazing.
Thank you, Nancy. I'm so grateful to you and wish
you continued success. And likewise likewise keep

(52:31):
smiling. I my my sign up is always stay
vertical and keep smiling. Right back at you I'm I'm doing
it and wishing it right to you. OK my dear, thank you so much.
Another great conversation here on Sideline Sisters.
Now let me get into Nancy Griffin's Notes from the
sidelines #1 we're not spending the time talking to ourselves

(52:53):
and asking ourselves, did this work?
Did it not work? So what now?
What number 2, to figure out what you really want to do, you
have to just go and trust that the universe will unfold and
something will happen. And if you go back and listen to
my conversation with Trinette Faint, she shared a similar
message of trusting the universe#3A great wealth plan includes

(53:19):
anticipating health challenges. So when they happen, you're well
protected. Your health is your best asset
#4 Women should take equal responsibility in finances, not
just the day-to-day groceries, kids, activities, that sort of
thing. But big picture, because women

(53:40):
make 85% of buying decisions andwomen are making more money than
ever before. So it's about stewarding that
wealth #5. Everybody needs a trusted
advisor for both health and wealth #6 it is so important to
learn about menopause and understand all of the many

(54:02):
symptoms because something as simple as brain fog could be
mistaken for early dementia whenit's really related to what's
going on hormonally. And I have three really
outstanding menopause focused episodes for you to enjoy.
So check out episode 69 with Cutting Luna Ostyski, episode 64

(54:25):
with Doctor Kat Brown, and episode 58 with Doctor Prudence
Hall. I think you will find all of
those conversations really insightful.
As far as menopause information #7 the expression go big or go
home. Nancy likes to say go big and
don't go home. Keep going because the world

(54:45):
needs powerful women in leadership roles #8 When Nancy
talks about the age of integrity, she means the idea of
I can't believe I've lived this long and can't believe I've done
this well and now I really want to give back #9 Look around you
at the people doing amazing things and you will find

(55:06):
inspiration #10 Don't take waking up in the morning for
granted. Really be grateful for your
health. And finally #11 to create a
mindset of positivity. Ask yourself, what's 1 good
thing that happened today and dothat every day.
Thank you again to Nancy Griffinfor coming on Sideline Sisters

(55:27):
and sharing your personal experience and valuable
perspective on how to focus on growing wealth and maintaining
good health. So please, if you enjoyed this
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(56:14):
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Lorraine Hightower, where we will discuss education,

(56:34):
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