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Ever wondered how to balance the heartwarming with the thought-provoking? Join us on "Slap the Power" as we kick off with tales of courage and compassion through our "Paws for Progress" initiative, spotlighting the incredible recovery stories of Miss Daisy, Mr. Wiggles, and Bowie. We're thrilled to update you on their journey towards healing and the upcoming adoption event in Los Angeles. Plus, our Gen Z correspondent Asher Freidberg keeps things lively with "Make this Ish Make Sense," offering a fresh take on everything from music to mascots.

When does fandom cross into a moral dilemma? We tackle this thorny question amidst allegations against iconic music figures like Jay-Z and Sean Diddy Combs, exploring the tricky terrain of separating art from the artist. Adding a lighter note, we venture into the whimsical world of Japanese mascots, spotlighting the antics of Chitan, a rogue figure who’s become a global sensation. Special guest Luna, a multidimensional artist and spiritual wellness coach, shares her transformative journey of healing generational trauma and embracing her role as a light worker in a complex world.

Shifting gears, we journey through the realms of plant-based healing and the evolving concept of sobriety, encouraging you to explore personal paths to wellness. From the impact of systemic issues to the pressing need for societal transformation, we shed light on the importance of activism, community, and feminine energy in today's world wiuth Blu Nyle. Don't miss our call to action as we discuss healthcare reform, justice, and the power of collective healing. Stay connected with us on social media to keep up with our dynamic discussions and vibrant community.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
That being a light worker versus being a light
slave, being African andindigenous and having the.
We were talking about releasingthose old dogmas of scarcity
and you know, my enslavedancestors versus and my mother
who was a street worker and adrug dealer and all this stuff
and having that stuff was likethat's not mine, that's not mine
.
Hey, won't we go slap today.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yo hey, won't we go slap today?
Yes, yes, the world may notneed another podcast, but it can
definitely use a slap.
Welcome to Slap the Power, theshow that lifts artists who use
their powers for positiveprogress.
I am Rick Barodil.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
And I'm Asia Nakia On the show today.
We are going to touch base onPaws for Progress and our furry
friends Miss Daisy, mr Wigglesand Bowie, and talk about our
upcoming adoption event righthere in the Los Angeles area.
This.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Sunday Hell yeah, all right, all right, and more on
the JZP duty allegations.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
And then we're going to catch up with our Gen Z
correspondent with a new editionof Make this Ish, make Sense.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Make this ish make sense, Asher.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
And do we have a new vigilante on our hands, Luigi
Mangione?

Speaker 4 (01:14):
And then we're going to switch back to some serious
positivity with the one and onlyBlue Nile.
Yes, I mean, she is an amazingmultidimensional artist who is
inspiring people all over theworld to really be able to get
through anything with herhealing.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Then a little later, two scams and a slap.
One of the two of us todaylearns in real time, along with
you, the listener, which one isa true slap in the face of
reality.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
But first we are going to talk about Paws for
Progress.
But first we are going to talkabout Paws for Progress, we have
Miss Rachel Daisy, stillunidentified name for this poor
girl.
It's just because, you know,nothing has really stuck with my
soul just yet.
She's such a soulful dog, sheis a soulful dog.
I need a little more time, youknow.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, and I love how we've, since the election, we've
kind of pivoted to starting theshow with a dose of fresh air.
Yeah, and your little girl is,and all the dogs that you've
been working on lately,especially like Mr Wiggles, is
pretty insane With a name likethat, though, come on, who
doesn't want to adopt Mr Wiggles?

(02:20):
Everybody needs to adopt.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
I mean everybody loves Mr Wiggles, everybody
needs to adopt.
I mean everybody loves.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Mr Wiggles, yeah, but how are things?
Because we actually have Daisy,sasha, rachel sitting next to
you today and in all my years inLos Angeles, in all my years at
going and anything even relatedto the pound here or the kennel
kind of situation, I've neverseen a tougher, happier dog in

(02:48):
my entire life.
Like she's bionic.
Right now she's got like metal,like transformers, walking
around the office going pew, pew.
But please tell the listenerscome on, give us the update,
pause for progress, tell us howit's going.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
I mean, you know we've been talking about her
surgery, you know the last twoepisodes, I think, and she
finally got into her very, veryspecific specialized orthopedic
surgery.
She got both legs fixed whichwe thought maybe we were going
to have to amputate.
She is a bionic toy poodle nowfor sure.

(03:23):
She's definitely not makingthrough any tsa yeah security
systems but nor kanye west.
But no, yeah, that part yeah, uh, but she's, you know, like you
said.
I mean she's just so happy andso brave.
I mean I can't even imagine theamount of pain and
uncomfortability of having metalplates and rods going through

(03:45):
your legs and she is just stillsitting here, smiling, tail
wagging, tail wagging, lookingfor lovins and just she's just a
breath of fresh air and I meanI would have spent $5,000 70
more times to get this littlegirl her legs.
So we've got, you know, a longroad ahead.
She's got a lot of time in cagerest, which is going to be
tough.
She's a one-year-old puppy.

(04:05):
She does not want to be doingthat, and then we're going to
try some therapy physicaltherapy, some water therapy but
she's on her way.
She's on her way to recovery.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I know you Is this dog yours now?
Are you looking to try andyou're just fostering her?

Speaker 4 (04:22):
No, as much as I love her, and she will be another
soul dog that I will probablycry hysterically over on the day
she leaves me but, you know, I,I want her to be the center of
attention in someone's life.
She, she deserves that.
Yeah.
So you know I will give her up,even though it will be another
tough one.
Um, her and mr wiggles, reallythey, they have my soul right

(04:45):
now for sure?

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, that's for sure .
And how about Bowie?

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Bowie's doing good.
He actually just had anotherortho consult.
They think they might be ableto save his arm.
So we need another $5,000 forBowie.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
No, is it really Is?

Speaker 4 (05:02):
that what a limb is?
No, it actually.
Literally that's the standardprice of a limb, if I go on the
black market.
His surgery is $4,980 to beexact.
So you know the search goes onto find another ortho and see
what we can do for Mr Bowie, butMr Wiggles did have his surgery
yesterday.
He is doing amazingly well.
So Mr Wiggles is going todefinitely be looking for his

(05:23):
home sooner than I thought.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
All right, all right.
Well, keep tuned to Slap toPower, we'll have everything
kind of.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
All the updates are there and through Compassion,
Kind yeah.
Oh, and if anybody wants tocome meet our adoptables, I
won't even bother with theaddress here, but we're going to
put it in our links in all theshow notes, Please, anybody that
wants to come out.
You know we're going to startdoing more adoption events in
the LA area, so come say hi.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
And is there an adoption event coming up this
Sunday?

Speaker 4 (05:51):
There is an adoption event this Sunday.
We'll put all the details andwe will have, I mean, seven of
our babies up for adoption.
Hey, yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
So get your furry friends, you know, because they
are the best, they kind of saveus all.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
They do.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
And how's this?
For a segue, Jay-Z says lawsuitaccusing him of raping a child
at an awards after party is partof an extortion ploy.
A woman who previously suedSean Diddy Combs alleging she
was raped at an awards showafter party in 2000 when she was
13, amended the lawsuit Sundayto include a new allegation that
Jay-Z was also at the party andparticipated in the essay.

(06:33):
The 24-time Grammy Awardwinning rapper and a man whose
book I do have by my bed fulldisclosure producer and music
mogul called the allegationsidiotic and heinous in nature in
a statement released by RockNation, one of his companies.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, until the verdict is out.
Yeah, yeah, who knows?
But I mean, we all knew thisdiddy.
I'm not even going to call it ascandal, it just is what it is.
Yeah, we knew this was going tohave, you know, repercussions,
and new names were going to becoming out, left and right.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I really hope this is not the case, but I was joking,
but it is really the kind ofthe root of the conversation, I
think, which is separating theart from this sort of modern day
litigious society we are in,and also it's not to deny any of
the you know allegations.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
We have these ethical dilemmas that are coming up
left and right in so manydifferent areas.
But for the listener or theperson that's following this
artist, you know how do younavigate listening.
You know an artist that you'velistened to for 30 years, but
they're not matching up andaligning with your ethics.
How do you move forward?
Do you shut off every song whenyou hear it?

(07:43):
What is the way to advocate forthese women that are being
affected?
Not buying their music, youknow, but then also we're
surrounded by it.
I mean, I feel like now it'slike how many you know?
Like we said in the in the topof the show, it's like these are
artists I listened to since Iwas in high school.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Again, I don't know who I listen to anymore school
again listen to anymore.
Everyone needs to, you know, becareful when we're talking about
it, because I kind of said thisabout the Kevin Spacey thing.
It got, you know, it got all Igot awful, but he was acquitted
and didn't get his career backat all.
Right, you know, and I thinkyou know he even I saw there was

(08:23):
a, he was on Piers Morgan andhe even I saw that he was on
Piers Morgan and he wasbasically saying he was losing
his house, his family house andeverything like that.
I believe it.
I mean, I hate to say it, butthe Pete Hegseth stuff, right,
it's odd, it's horrible, itfeels very sort of
Kavanaugh-esque in how they'rejust covering up a guy's You're,
you know, when his mom writes aletter saying how despicable

(08:44):
you are and then goes on Fox, onFox only Right, and says, oh
well, the New York Times, it's.
It's just fascinating to me thatwe've somehow also moved the
argument now that journalistscan't do their job, right, and
so to me, you know, I, when youcall to verify a story, it's not

(09:06):
, you know, and somebody saysit's not extortion or it's not.
I don't even know what the wordshe used, but I'll find it and
it's going to piss me off, butthe point being is that I don't
know how that became a thinglike that.
They were missed, that thepress is somehow extortionist or
not trustworthy, or all they'redoing is asking you to either

(09:26):
verify or push back against yourown words, and I don't
understand how that happens.
So I you know.
The point being is just, we gotto be diligent about the
stories and what is going on.
The new york times is allowedto do journalism, don't you know
?
And if you're, you're trying towalk back your own words or
something and accusing them justbecause they said confirm this

(09:49):
or we're going to run with thestory that we have or deny it.
Confirm or deny that, that'sjournalism.
So, anyway, I feel like movingforward.
Whether it's Jay-Z or the Diddystuff, you know the Diddy stuff.
That's why he's locked up andin jail.
But until proven guilty,blueprint's still on my playlist

(10:09):
.
Man, blueprint's still there,hov, hov.
So, and our resident Gen Zcorrespondent, mr Asher
Freidberg, through the magic ofTV and podcasting, we're going
to make him.
For those of you at home, we doa poof noise here in the office
and Asher appears in the threespot at the table.

(10:29):
So are you ready, asia?
We're going to go one, two,three and we're going to go poof
.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Okay, one, two, three poof, that's your fried word.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
I was in the bathroom .

Speaker 4 (10:44):
You're always doing something.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
See, we have a portal here at the studio, so you
didn't know that.
Now you know Now.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I know.
Did you wash your hands atleast before we start?
I didn't get to start.
Did you wash your hands atleast before we start?
I didn't get to start.
Oh man, what is it?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Since you will never tell us what we're going to talk
about, what is?

Speaker 4 (10:57):
it.
What ish do we need to makesense out of?
Tell us.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
So today I'm going to talk to you guys about Chitan.
Do you guys know who Chitan is?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
No, oh my God, is that you talking about the?

Speaker 5 (11:06):
mascot.
I had a feeling you were goingJohn Oliver, very well-known
Japanese mascot.
So I don't know if you're aware, I know Rick is In Japan
mascots are a lot bigger thanthey are here.
Each city will have their ownmascot.
They're usually really cute,they're usually really fun,
harmless, you know, just givethem good vibes.
And then there's Chiton.

(11:26):
I'm going to show you guys justa little clip.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yes, all right, you can get some cheaton.
Yes, what.
Oh my God, Okay, okay, oh myGod, oh my God, oh my God, che

(11:56):
god, oh my god, oh my god.
Cheaton on stilts.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
Suspense is killing me.
Does he make it so that'sCheaton.
Okay, and make it make sense,yeah, so he's been on for a
little while, or she, I actuallyforget.
This actually leads me rightinto my point.
So Cheaton is non-binary.
Okay, and right now Cheaton iscurrently going was going viral
on Twitter X whatever you wantto call it because it was

(12:25):
advocating its support for thetransgender community.
You know it was mostly justdoing pictures with like flags
and just using the right colors.
You know flags and just usingthe right colors.
You know Cheaton is nottypically a magical sea otter of
words, but this time it was.
So what happened was it got atweet.
It got a tweet saying in termsof advertising, this is a
colossal failure.

(12:45):
Not only is the trans issuevolatile here in America, but
it's not even recognizedworldwide, being outright banned
in many countries.
Ironically, you pan into a verylow percentage in terms of
views.
This was very and Chetanresponded to this.
Chetan said Thank you so muchfor your concern.

(13:08):
I appreciate your feelings ForChiton.
It is more important thattransgender people can live
happily as themselves than addratings To Chiton.
Transgender people are likefamily.
Thank you so much for yourconcern.
I appreciate your feelings,love you.
Wow, this is Chiton.
Chiton for the win.
Gotta love Chiton.
Yes, oh, my gosh Dope, awesome.
Yeah, I wanted to share alittle bit of what's going on

(13:30):
with Chitan right now just beingoutright much more of an
advocate and ally of thetransgender community and, is,
you know, being part of it rightnow, essentially, you know,
being non-binary, yeah.
Yeah, I think it's just reallyinteresting to get these kinds
of advocates, especially fromcountries where there are less
advocates.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Oh yeah, I mean, I was going to say where's Chitan
from?

Speaker 5 (13:47):
So Chitan is from the city, is I'm going to probably
pronounce it wrong?
I believe it's Suzuki.
Okay, in what country this isin Japan.
In Japan okay and funny enough.
Chitan is not the legitimatemascot.
Chitan's a rogue mascot.
You mean there's multipleChitans, sort of like Santa
Claus.
Not like that, no, becausethere's only one Santa Claus.

(14:09):
That's true, there is one SantaClaus.
I'm Jewish and I know that.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
No, but yeah, Chiton is just.
No one's told him yet, he'sstill too young.
Yeah, yeah, too young.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
I guess he'll tell me when I'm 40.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
But no, so Chiton is Not that there's multiple
Chitons.
From what I understand therecould be, but that's not what I
know.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
What I signed in or anything by the government,
while other ones have actualones, that are official.
You know, chitan is rogue andshe got you copy.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Yeah, chitan, so this is just a person that made
their own costume to wear andmakes videos.
I mean, they have a full youknow team behind chitan.
You know, it's just they're notgovernment sanctioned like many
other mascots.
Okay, and I believe at onepoint um the city, um itself
made a comment saying like wedon't associate with Cheaton.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Well, I think, for Japan.
I think it's great that theyhave an ally like Cheaton.
I don't know anything aboutthis mascot world other than the
fact that I went to high schoolwhere our mascot was a sponger,
which made it on the DavidLetterman show.
A sponger yes, what's a sponger?
We don't have time for this,okay, but that's the only mascot

(15:18):
that I can like.
You know, that's myrelatability to this
conversation.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Cheaton had a run on John Oliver yes, going back and
forth, and all I know is thatthat's killer Asher, but I love
it.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, Thank you for making thatmake sense.
And you know, shout out toCheaton.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Cheaton.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Cheaton.
We're big supporters here atSlap the Power, so shout out to
Cheaton Good on you.
And when we come back from thebreak, the one and only Blue
Nile is going to be in here instudio for the interview, so
stick around.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
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Speaker 3 (16:20):
All right joining us in studio today for the
interview.
She is a multidimensionalartist, a hip-hop activist, a
sound healer, a Reiki master, aspiritual wellness coach.
Author.
Activator Company's calledRooted in Her Power.
Please welcome to Slap thePower, luna, let's go Ancestors
in the building.
Thank you so much for coming in.

(16:47):
It's great to be in yourpresence.
For those people that do notknow you, please set yourself up
.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well, you said a lot.
Well then, you've got to goaround to each of the boxes and
say why that's deserved.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
For sure, and I'll ask if you don't come around to
that For sure.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
So I'm a human being, a divine light.
First of all, I'm a lightworker.
I bring light to the darknessof this world, whether it's
music, tv and film, rapping,singing, dancing, writing, all
that stuff.
But as a little child I have aclear cognizance and a knowing
of the higher sources of theelements.

(17:24):
And as soon as I moved herefrom New York I was on a big
shaman path with Lakota tribe,navajo tribe and all my teachers
.
So I am a shamanic Reiki master.
So the energetics, and on ajourney of healing myself.
I was signed at 16.
I came from Boston, moved toNew York, so I've had a.
The book that I published iscalled Trauma Thriver, and so
I've been on a journey ofhealing generational,
intergenerational trauma withinmy life and helping others do

(17:47):
that.
I work in recovery.
It's a multidimensional for areason because it's infinite.
I channel divine energy,whether writing or helping
people turn on their light andto turn up their chi reiki.
Rei is a Japanese word.
It literally means higher power, higher power.
So yeah, however, the sourceswant to do it, whether I book a
movie, a TV show, holla, youknow, or if I'm working at a

(18:08):
treatment center and helpingsomeone save their life from
mental illness and dysterbia andall of those things where we
just need to learn how tobreathe.
These somatic therapies thatI've gotten certified in to save
my life and to heal for menever really did.
I think I would be like helpingothers I knew musically.
Yes, I'm an activist.
Hip-hop activist like alwaysbeen about the origination of

(18:30):
hip-hop was to be an activistand to truly inspire.
And you know, as anAfrican-American, queer, gay
woman, you know I mean Jamaican,it's like we got.
We've had work to do in thecivil rights and equality, so
human rights is just my life.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
For me, energy became about everything.
I didn't realize it until I metmy girl, and when you meet
someone that is like, like, forlack of a better way to put it
right.

(19:06):
And then, even if we can't helpourselves sometimes, one of the
first things I realized was oh,wow, you're just emitting all
this amazing godly light and yet, when you turn it on yourself,
you don't have that.
And I was like, wow, I want tomake sure that you see this.

(19:26):
I'm going to devote my life tomaking sure that you see this.
But in it and this is why youinspired me to think of this in
it and this is why you inspiredme to to think of this is that
it's through helping others thatit helped me.
Yes, get out of my own way,right, you know?
So how was your journey?
Like you said, you started offearly in the business.
We're both in the same business.

(19:48):
Um, how did you?
At what point did you kind ofhave your sort of aha or, you
know, lowest, kind of moment?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
The womb.
Yeah, god bless my mom.
You know I was born into, youknow, survive the projects, and
she as a Greek woman, italianwoman, love black men and
unfortunately she had really badtaste in men and so I was
activated as a survivor of stufffrom childhood and she was also
a singer and I was also indance school at three.

(20:19):
So I was writing and singingand had my cassette tape on to
get me through when I was at mymother's house.
But luckily I had my mother'sside of the family up until I
was like 16, who just my yaya,my papu and my nana who allowed
me to have that unconditional.
But I was a survivor of a lot,so music was my escape and I
wrote and I performed and then Igot signed at 16 and that

(20:41):
allowed me to open up for lotsof people and perform in front
of that's.
When I realized I was an energyconduit and I was like, wow,
there's a, there's somethinghere and I was transmuting, my
awakening happened, I mean in anear-death experience.
I'm also in recovery.
I'm seven and a half years freeof drugs and alcohol, 10 years
on that journey, cause I neverwent to treatment.
It was really hard Cause Iwalked in like I have to end

(21:03):
this.
So I, my ancestors, told me, inorder for the healing to stick,
you got to give up the alcohol.
And then to do that was like,really do I, you know?
So I had to really negotiateand be like why it's not as bad
as this person, but it's theinside bottom.
It could be successful andmoney, but if you have thoughts
of really not wanting to, be onthe planet.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
That might be an issue.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, I know, sure.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
So it was a multiple.
That near-death experience kindof woke me up because I saw the
other side and I moved to NewYork from Boston and tried to do
it.
You know what I mean.
But not until I came.
My teachers were all in spiritrealm.
Like Michael Beckwith, Istarted watching the Secret 20
years ago which was an awakening, and what the Bleak Do we Know?
Which was quantum physics, andthat just woke up my scientific

(21:47):
and electromagnetic auric fieldtype Joe Dispenza, and then now
Michael Beckwith's, my teacherin real life.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Hey, yeah, what's wild, that's what's up.
Yeah, I'm saying yeah so it'shonestly.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
When I moved here from from new york 15 years ago,
as soon as I stepped on thisland was my awakening, yeah,
same for me yeah same for methere's something about like
energetically.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
There's just I've been fortunate to travel the
world, all you know, multipletimes, kind of go all over, and
there's two places that, nomatter when I get on the soil,
it's, it does somethingdifferent to my, to myself, and
it's los angeles and it's andit's kind of almost anywhere in
spain for some reason.
But yeah, I just there'ssomething about a kind of an
energetic shift for me, whereasI I you know no disrespect,

(22:34):
although I've done pretty much alot of disrespect to tampa both
tampa and florida before, nodisrespect.
Now to tampa or florida, but I Ican't, I can't.
You know that there's just theycall it woo out here on
everybody.
No, we're in touch with ourenergy, come on, it's exactly.
You know, I got friends like myfriends they need, they'll go
out and they'll go hit likejoshua tree.

(22:55):
Right, you know, go get right,my friends they need, they'll go
out and they'll go hit likejoshua tree.
Right, you're gonna go getright with you, get right with
your energy, and everybody'slike, oh, but no, it really
works.
You were really, yeah, vortexfor real, for real.
Um, what do you think is youwere talking about your sobriety
and and it's interesting to mebecause I I don't out here, we
have what's called like californ, california sober, and you
don't have to talk about any ofthis if you don't want to, but

(23:17):
yeah, but like my relationshipwith weed changed completely
when I did stop drinking formore than a year and they say
that you're you're like yourliver kind of like regrows and
fixes itself and and you have toreally almost get it out of you
for like a long, you know along period of time.

(23:37):
But I never considered weed uh.
I mean it was always in a drugcategory but like with recently,
finally it got moved from aschedule one to, yeah, I think
it's schedule three or whatever,but it's all the money to make
it, all I know they better, butthat's how they move things down
is the more money they make,then the less of a class they
make, then the less of a class.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
You know that's the less of a class.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
They make a lot of money off of heroin.
They just call it, you know,Oxycontin.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah, they just do it the pharmaceutical route yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
No, no, no, Sure, yeah, it's a different packaging
.
Yeah, you got to be able toknow how to market that stuff.
Gotta get the right.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Gotta get the right distributed I mean the emergency
room is yes their favoriteplace yeah, yeah and then we
wonder why we have people on thestreets with drug addictions.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, what's your kind of take on?
I mean, on that, do you like,because to me that's it's plant
medicine.
Right is what they got here,but I don't.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I don't put that in a drug category yeah, so for me
it's all about the intention,and for me, and did you abuse it
?
Because I for forever.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I was like but I'm.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
my grandfather was born in Jamaica.
I'm Jamaican but like I smokelike Snoop.
I have smoked with Snoop Ismoke too much and then I'm like
it's just an escapism, I cannever smoke weed again.
I can microdose.
I can microdose Like Imicrodose mushrooms and plant
medicine.
Because it's different, becauseagain 15 years ago, when I
started on the plant medicinejourney, I took five years off

(24:59):
of everything Because my guide,my mentor, was like you need to
get, because it takes sevenyears for the bodies really,
truly to regenerate the organs.
Every year our cells regenerate,but the organs take seven years
.
So, like me and my ridiculousnerd studies, I'm like'm like
okay, I really want to transformand change my brain and after
five years, I healed so muchtrauma and I went in so deep

(25:21):
because this is my passion andI'm client number one to be the
proof to be like look how farand what you can do.
Yes, it's blood, sweat and tears.
So for me I can't smoke, andeven the weed like it's about
feelings and if you're really atrue addict and like you have
that isms and it's not whatalcoholism and addiction is not
what people think it is.
Like you, I sat in 12 stepsmeetings and I learned what it

(25:43):
is and it's the, the psychicchange.
Like I have a spiritual hole,which is so true because I'm a
seeker, I'm a universalpriestess because, I seek all
the master teachers and study.
It's got to be something in thatphysical allergy when, like,
one is too much and a thousandis never enough and I had that
experience, but with the partypowder, that was the worst one,
like I don't drink because Idrink and I used to drink and I

(26:04):
used to break out on cocaine.
So I was like I don't want todo that.
Drugs killed.
My father took my mother LikeGod, bless her she's alive, but
still so.
Bless her she's alive, butstill so.
So it's like I just got wise andI was like, okay, this is not
for me, it's individualistic.
I say everybody you have toknow thyself, number one, and
find the language of your heart,because people will tell you
what to do, but only you know.
Look, it worked for you.
I can't and I don't even wantto test it.

(26:26):
I will microdose some um, twoand a half milligrams of this
instead of an antidepressant,because I went through some
stuff and I was like I'm goingto do this instead of an
antidepressant.
Because I went through somestuff and I was like I'm going
to do this instead of that Rightand it's very helpful.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
That's yeah, that that's my, that's my.
Where I landed on it is like Iwas like, oh wow, this is way
better than pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yes, you know I think you know anything that can come
from the earth, but you canalways abuse anything.
I think what you were sayingabout you know, know it being
intentional if you're utilizingmushrooms to get to a certain
level, clear your head, you know, find a path.
Whatever it is that you'reseeking, then I think that's
different than you know abusinganything too much.
I think everything is inmoderation, you know.

(27:05):
But if you're using it forhealing, I'm the same.
I can't smoke, but I have adifferent reaction to smoking.
I don't know.
If it's because it's supposedto relax you, then my body goes.
No Asia, nothing will relax you.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
You will be on all the time.
It does the opposite.
It does the opposite I turninto a hypochondriac?

Speaker 4 (27:22):
I don't like myself, I'm like you know wigging out,
so I cannot like it does norelaxation for me whatsoever.
Maybe at some point I wish thatit had.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
I thought maybe that would be a good, a good source
but no, I love it and thereverence, like, please honor
these.
Like I talked to it and Italked to the plant and
especially with mushrooms andpsilocybin, which is billions of
years old, the oldest organismright.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Mycelium is just ridiculous, so respect and like
people like but, I had a badtrip.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I'm like well, did you pray for it?
Did you honor it?
They're like no, why would I dothat?
I'm like that's why they'regoing to teach you a lesson.
They're more brilliant than youHashtag science.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
They're the most connected being on the planet.
I mean hands down, literally,literally.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
They are connected everywhere.
I'm very curious about it, butI always find it interesting
that, like when we say tripping,or when you're going on these
experiences, we're always likeeveryone always wants to be in
nature and everyone wants to goback to nature.
Or you have some experience inthe forest and I love that about

(28:28):
it, but it's like at the rootof it, we're just all trying to
get back to nature.
I keep saying that over andover again, but mushrooms is one
of the things that I'm lookingat now, because it's so
interesting to me that that'sthe first place people go.
It's nature and reconnectionand I'm like, yes, that's what
I've been saying everyone youneed to reconnect, you know.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Now, do you do mushrooms?
I don't.
I have once.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
I've microdosed once yeah, and I mean it was at my
best friend's wedding and wewere in North Carolina on an
indigenous land that wasrespected.
You don't have to sell me.
No, I'm not selling you.
I want to tell you how beautifulthe experience was Okay please,
and why I said yes to it.
All right, so we're on thislike indigenous land like 30

(29:13):
minutes of the wedding.
So we're on this likeindigenous land like 30 minutes
of the wedding.
There was like 10 minutes of mybest friend and her husband and
then the rest of it wasacknowledging the forest.
And it was the most beautiful,like ceremony I mean.
And then the trees were like Imean, there was no wind and the
trees just started talking andeveryone was just oh, it was
like you could hear the people.

(29:35):
It was beautiful.
So after that everybody wasmicrodosing and I was like, all
right, asia, this is your time.
You're in the forest, you'rewith good people, you're with
your best friend it's herwedding, aubrey.
You know what I'm talking about.
I was like, yeah, this soundsgreat and it was.
It was great.
I was fine.
I haven't done it since then.
I didn't feel like it gave meanything, you know, like I don't

(29:55):
know, maybe I didn't takeenough yeah, right, I didn't,
but but next time.
Yeah, but I think there was likea lot of stimulation too right
it's a wedding and I was also incharge of like everything so,
but I didn't have a badexperience, so I'm up for it

(30:15):
again.
I just want to do more research.
I want to know.
I want to set the intention thenext time.
But yes, I'm very intrigued bymushrooms at the moment.
I love that.
How about you?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
oh, I mean you're like every day.
I'm a rock and roller man.
What do you want from me?

Speaker 4 (30:30):
tell us how often you microdose.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
No like a lot.
So you're just dosing no well,kind of like you know it's so
funny.
Um, because it is intention andit is and it is, everybody's
got to kind of find their thingright.
And our manager shout out docmcgee, love the man.
And uh, he managed some of thebiggest, most the most over the

(30:55):
top bands in the world and theyused to call it full contact
management because he managedMotley Crue at the heyday.
Like you would have to, theywould handcuff the guys to the
bed and they would still sneakout.
They would figure a way tosneak out.
Like there's one story wherehe's got a part of the bed

(31:18):
handcuffed.
Tommy Lee they're in Orlando, Ithink, is where it was he's got
a part of the bed handcuffed tohis hand.
They were on the third floorand they had somebody on the
front making sure that hedoesn't come out.
So they took the piece of thebed because they wanted to go to
a strip club.
Of course, yeah, that's how italways ends.
But I mean, brie, shout out toBrie, I was like Brie where's
Brie Talking?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
about strip clubs.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Respect on the Florida strip clubs.
You got to put respect whereit's due.
You know Tampa.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, exactly, dale Mabry, we have probably the best
strip club, oh 100%, 100% Shoutout Venus 2001.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, no, it's legit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they wroteGirls, girls, girls.
Shout out to the homeland.
They wrote Girls, girls, girlsabout that.
So it's legit.
So back to Doc.
One of his things is anythingworth doing is worth overdoing.
That's his motto and I kind ofI'm built for that in a lot of
ways.
So I like to know where theedge is and then kind of go back

(32:15):
.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
That sounds dangerous to me, I know for me, and then
I have fun inside it.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
I have fun inside it.
No, don't get me wrong, I don'tknow.
I don't even know why.
There's a part of me that, likeI know how lucky I am to be
alive on so many differentoccasions.
I heard, I hear you, I have hadmy conversations with the
creator and I think that's oneof the reasons why I tattooed it
on my hand is because I, youknow, basically the three
principal tenets for me is love,light and self-discipline, but

(32:42):
in three different languages.
That where I, the threedifferent kind of cultures that
sort of changed my, my life.
You know, kind of marrying intoan Indian family and the
Bhagavad Gita and everything wasa, is a whole different way to
think about spirituality for me.
Yeah, and I got to really diveinto that over the pandemic, and

(33:02):
and and but, uh, you know, uh,all of the, the, the journeys,
whether it be um, lsd or or orfor me.
I did my college paper on LSDbecause that's why you and I
kind of say I was like I want toknow about this and I was like
the Beatles they changed theirwhole sound after this.

(33:22):
I was like I want to know whatchanges somebody's sound.
So I did my paper on it and itchanged my life and it was one
of the coolest things that everhappened.
But my intention was definitelyset going into it and, uh, I
think I've seen situations where, um, people handle all kinds of

(33:43):
things amazingly that otherpeople's can't handle with
certain types of things, myselfincluded, and some of that you
kind of also sort of can takefor granted, and that's why
giving people their space andletting people come to their own
, you know, their own sort ofdesign on self be true, yeah,
period, church, yeah, and thelight.

(34:03):
You know, for me, everythingstarted to become about light,
like you talked about, like yourealize that, about your purpose
, your journey, you know, is tobe a mirror, a reflector of the
light right or an emitter oflight right.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
The journey of that being a light worker versus
being a light slave, beingafrican and indigenous, and I'm
having the.
We were talking about releasingthose old dogmas of scarcity
and, you know, my enslavedancestors versus and my mother,
who was a street worker and adrug dealer and all this stuff
and having that stuff was likethat's not mine, that's not mine
how I so letting go as a woman,as like all the others in this

(34:37):
ism system that is broken.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
How do?

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I confront and allow myself to choose my own.
It is breaking yourself free tobe a light worker and knowing
how to protect my light andshine it and radiate it radiate
it radiate it.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
We're told to not shine our light most of the time
, like we're supposed to be inthe back.
We're supposed to.
You know, you can go down downthe list, especially if you're
queer, especially if you'reblack and brown, especially if
you're a woman.
I mean you've just goteverything, yeah, all all the
back row seats available to you.
You know, yeah, so you reallyhave to work to get through all
of that to shine some light upat the front.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I mean that's, it's a big that's why plant medicine,
mother earth is here to help uslike done properly.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
She sure is appropriated appropriately,
please yeah and and I think sheheals us in in all the ways I
think we, you know, we focus alot on things like mushrooms
because it's the most studiedright and and it's out there and
we're still learning so much.
We still don't even know aboutall of the mycelium that you
know exist.
But even things like I'minterested about you know how

(35:40):
standing by the ocean for 20minutes affects your blood
circulation and bring stresslevels down and cortisol.
I mean the things your bodydoes when you're next to waves
and water, which is why I know Ican never be away from water
more than 30 minutes Might be mynext you know, like there's
just a different.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
And Southern California.
Let's be honest.
Let's be honest Come on.
It's a whole different thing.
Yeah, you know cause it's thatsweet spot.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, it sure is.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, one of the best parts about being out here is I
never, I never feel likeanybody's being squashed in a
way where it feels like otherplaces that are trying to make
more of a homogenous sort ofculture and things like that, or
gentrify places and stuff like.
Like, when you look up in thehills there there's a hundred

(36:35):
different housing styles.
Go run around Lake Hollywood,you know you'll go from a.
You know, because it's not asubdivision with all the
sameness, right, because it'snot a subdivision with all the
sameness, right, it's everybodykind of getting to express
themselves with their placebecause, why not, it's your
place, express yourself.
So you see some of the mostintricate and complicated
architecture you know, up aroundhere and everything like that.

(36:56):
And that's kind of a reason whyI love California, because we
have the muscle of two of thebiggest ports on planet Earth,
which is just, you know, let'sbe real, since the muscle of two
of the biggest ports on planetearth, which is just, you know,
let's, let's be real, sincesince the dawn of man, the ports
kind of control everything.
You know so much.
But then you combine that withuh, I, I do think you know being
out here and the being with thewater around us and everything

(37:19):
it does create a kind of freespirit that I always say it's.
It's.
It's delusional, but it's.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Everybody's coming with a dream and it's just if
they let their dream getsquashed or if they find their
way to their dream but everybodyhas a little bit of a different
, because, as a person of color,I kind of beg to differ,
because there's still so I don'twant to say no, it's not, it's
gentrifying, but it's sosegregated still Like when I go,
like I'm Los Angeles, or LosAngeles.

(37:45):
Like, just like my experience oflooking for another black
person.
You know what I mean.
Like I have to.
It's rare.
Well, I'm always the only onein the room Shout out to my
mentor, Laura Robbins, who wroteyou know, Like, and it's so.
We all have differentexperiences.
So I love there's so much blackhistory there, but that's what
I'm looking for to feed my soulyou know what I'm saying.

(38:06):
I need that like Octavia'sBookshelf, the first black woman
bookstore, where OctaviaSpencer I don't know who, y'all
know the author, but just shewas her father's.
She was a slave and justlearning of like the redlining,
and that was a sundown town.
You know what means.
Like my ancestors had to be inthe house before the sundown or
I might get killed.
So like that energy is here too.
You know what I'm saying.

(38:27):
So I'm like it is, but I focusin the light and I try to
experience that, but my bloodand my bones, the ancestral
trauma, is just like hey, what'sup?

Speaker 4 (38:36):
No for sure.
And I mean you know, but justin working in Compton and Skid
Row, the things I've seen, Imean it's devastating, but to
your point too, about likecrushed dreams, like it's like I
feel the crushed dreams inthose moments too, like,

(38:58):
especially on Skid Row andespecially in Compton, and you
can see the segregation still,and you can see the poverty and
and, and I think this place ismagical for so many reasons
because you feel like you can doanything, like we were talking
about this, we've talked aboutthis, like you feel this power
when you're here, thateverything is attainable.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yes, your luck can change on a on a dime by the, by
the most random of encounters.
But I think it's.
And let me ask you, your luckcan change on a dime by the most
random of encounters.
But I think it's.
And let me ask you this is Ithink it's having kind of loved
Los Angeles since I was born,even admiring it from afar and
the riots and seeing what thetransformation that did, whether
it was the Rodney King riots orwhether it was the Watts riots

(39:40):
before that.
Or you think about a situationthat we've been lucky not to
necessarily have, but it's justlike a natural disaster with the
wrong leaders in place or anatural disaster with no leaders
in place.
What does that do tocivilization?
Kind of like writ large right,there's eight million people
here.
That's kind of like spread out.
I think it's a class issue,it's a socio class issue because

(40:04):
I started uh, started this showwith Maya Sykes.
I don't know if you're familiarwith Maya Sykes.
Yeah, I love Maya Sykes, mygirl.
She sang with our band.
I love Maya, she's fam.
Obviously, her perspective wasalways one of those things where
it was interesting.
Because I wanted, I loved thecombination of being able to
have conversations with herexperience growing up in Compton
and in South Central.
Because I wanted.
I loved the combination ofbeing able to have conversations

(40:25):
with her, her, her experience,you know, growing up in Compton
and in in South central andgrowing up in Long Beach and and
, but then really having a sortof all politics is local
perspective.
You know to to where it soundstrite, but she comes from a
place of being the change youwant, right, and you know, okay,

(40:46):
to see which, which kind ofmeans there's also I've learned
this from from my girl toothere's also.
If I start telling myself amessage, then that is true,
right, and so if I want it tochange.
She said something to me earlyon.
She was like why are youadvocating for a, for an event
or an outcome that you don'twant to be true?
And so if I catch myself doingthat, that's where I'm like.

(41:09):
I do appreciate, like theargument of of the, that we,
there's a systemic failurethat's going on all over, that's
continuing to go on.
There's original sin that'sbaked into this.
There are all kinds of forcesthat are in there, but that said
, period, period, policing,policing that said, what is the

(41:34):
way to band together?
Because we are there is alarger block of people that
think the way we do than thereare, you know, than there are
the nefarious types.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Well, I think it's this and us coming together with
our, our truths, right.
And sharing and giving thediversity, like we were just
talking about this last night.
Democracy is crushing as far asit's gone in January, and so
how do we create democracy Ifeverybody doesn't have a voice
and then they're really notspeaking?
For I can speak for the black.
I'm not on Skid Row, I'm nothomeless, but how do we?

(42:08):
get that and do the grassrootsand give them a voice and kind
of uplift them, because whatyou're saying is energy work and
me changing my perspective,which also I don't like to
gaslight myself and spirituallybypass the truth and the facts
because I am an activist and.
I'm here to tell the truth, andwe were just talking about this

(42:31):
.
Let go of the scarcity, thescarcity of slavery mentality.
And no, I belong here, right,but like I have to do so much
inner work, more than the cisperson that doesn't have
absolutely indigenous blood orafrican blood.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
You know what I mean yeah, no absolutely it's your
point almost come when we weretalking about we.
We had the opportunity we'venever talked about this on on on
the show, but we had theopportunity to, um, you know,
get involved in the kamalaharris campaign and right away
it was we knew or like okay, Idon't know if the country still
isn't over misogyny enough to doit.

(42:59):
And then is, you know, brockobama kind of kind of changed
the paradigm on some things.
So, and you know, and it was,it was interesting thing.
But I do think um being, youknow, brock obama kind of kind
of changed the paradigm on somethings.
So, and you know, and it was,it was interesting thing.
But I do think um being youknow black cis, you know female
is is one of those things whereit's it is such a a shit deal
out the gate that it's uh, I, itdoes need to be talked about it

(43:21):
, like what is baked into thesystem on a percentage point, a
percentage basis.
Now, when we're looking back atit, we'll say was that because
he only Trump only won?
By now, we found out, like onepoint four percent, which is not
a lot.
It's two hundred seventy threethousand votes in three
different states.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Her silence lost it.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
I wish she would have spoke up in some way, but again
, capitalism rules probably hadsome people, investors.
But if she would have just saidsomething about Gaza, congo,
palestine, like something.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Give us a flag.
I voted for her.
No, it would have helped.
And again, we don't always knowthe reasoning behind things.
We don't know what threats, wedon't know what she was dealing
with, but yeah, I mean that wasdefinitely on my mind we all
needed an answer.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I was going back and forth.
I didn't want to because ofthat.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
That was my argument, so your other option would have
been to not vote Apathy, and Ican't do apathy, so I was like I
ain't doing apathy.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
My ancestors are banging on me, you know.
Like Shirley Chisholm, Like youknow what I mean, Like I got a
vote for a self and empathybecause I really, truly know
nothing about politics and I'mnot a politician and never want
to be, or maybe I should be, whoknows.
Right.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
That could actually turn a bug into a feature.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Facts In a heartbeat.
Like you said, anything canhappen.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Yeah, I was like should I apply for the LA
shelter role or should I juststay in my lane outside and try
to change it over there?
But you know, you don't know.
But politics is always a reallya really hard one, but it was
sad to me to see how many peoplecould not vote for her.
Yeah, based on one thing, yeah,which is that she was a female,

(44:56):
I think Other things, yes, butthe misogyny came out in such a
way that it really hit.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
It's depressing because I don't see that we
don't create that in our world.
Right, and that's kind of oneof the reasons why there was a
time in Los Angeles where it wasbad for the first 10 years
because I had a bunch of friendsaround that were negative.
And it's called commiserationfor a reason, right, because
misery loves company, right.
And then I moved to Nashvillefor a brief stint and I rejected

(45:34):
it like a bad heart transplantbecause I didn't have any water
and, let's be honest, it's a redstate and but shout out to
Nashville, I love me, someNashville peeps, but Nashville
is blue-ish to Nashville.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
I love me some Nashville peeps.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Even though it's the music capital now, right,
nashville's blue-ish and I loveit.
I got mad peeps there that I'mmad respecting and stuff.
But coming back I got toapproach all a white, a clean
slate of okay.
Well now, who am I hanging outwith?
What am I letting in on my chi?
What am I letting in on myspirit?
And then I realized, my god, Iwas letting that in.

(46:07):
Previously I was like, oh,that's what was pulling from me
and I was like no.
And now it's like you.
When I feel that energy fromanywhere, it's like no, this
ain't no, we gotta nope, we'regetting rid of this.
You know, I feel like we kindof have to band together because
there's a lot more of us thatthat think the same.
I think there's there'sgenerations of you said you, you
just said it, give us a flagright.
If she would have done, you know, you'd call her Negro Exactly

(46:30):
which she did a little bit, butnot enough, not enough not
enough.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
She did I mean at least it wasn't publicized.

Speaker 6 (46:37):
I didn't catch it.
I was looking for it, I know.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
And I want to say the crip walk on tiktok wasn't
enough, you know no no, no,that's just culture, that's
that's pop culture, yeah, no, no, I'm kidding.
I don't know.
I don't think she did.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
It would have been an AI but like what you were
saying about being a black woman, I had to say because first of
all, I was telling her blackwomen, we were the first shamans
in Africa.
Black women, we are the giftsto this earth and world with the
appropriation of everything.
So, like us, what?
What you're saying?
It's a shit order.
Like I refuse that, I rebukethat.
It's actually the greatestinitiation of my life, because I
have to step up, I have to findmy voice, I have to speak up

(47:11):
and yet I have to learn how torest and not take it.
And like we tie it, we tie it.
You have to teach yourselfevery other culture, like I got
the fire to teach it and spreadit authentically.
But like I can tire myself outbecause you're right, it's a lot
being a black woman.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
It's almost like how, once you have like
gerrymandered districts, theyexplain it like you have to win
by three points just to win,just to win by a percentage, and
that's what it is.
And I think just the I'm mymom's Cuban, I kind of only that

(47:48):
was really the only relatives Iknew growing up.
So the only experience I sortof understood was the immigrant
experience and coming over onthe boat lifts and stuff was how
I met my relatives and in a waythat it was just like, oh cool,
I got new, new relatives.
You're a young kid, you don'trealize it, but and I hope you
don't what I was meaning by abad situation is also something

(48:10):
that I've learned just now.
Not just now, but I'm saying atthis point in my life where and
praise to Ty Taylor, becauseevery as if you're constantly in
art mode, if you're constantlyin creating, in a creating uh
state, there are no bad thingsright there, there, and there
are no, there are.
There is no bad, it's only whatwe create, which, so we can

(48:33):
create good out of everything.
And I was saying this the otherday and it's hard to talk about
because I don't want to getcanceled or anything like, but
all my, all my heroes.
I didn't even realize that allmy heroes were, I didn't even
realize it.
All my heroes were Motown andStax and James Brown and
Parliament Funkadelic.
And then I found, you know,prince and Stevie Wonder, and so
I was like that was my sort ofI don't know that unlocked me

(48:56):
and my kind of gifts or whatever.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
I feel your reverence and your allyship and your
empathy.
It's just that, you know, as ablack woman, I'm like, let's let
us know it's not a shit, it isyes, and I appreciate the
recognition.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't mean.
I mean it's like what did yousay that again?

Speaker 1 (49:12):
I said and we are goddesses, goddammit.
No, that's why.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
I mean like, and it's 100% fascinated by it because,
on one level, like if I, I havebeen afforded luxuries just
because of where you classifyvisually right, and that is a
prism by which I am now.
I love looking at everythingelse through before which I

(49:41):
previously woke up.
Yeah, fuck, fuck off.
Woke is okay.
I'm waking the fuck up, right.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
You know, and I'm waking up.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yeah, and you know it turns out like getting rid of
history doesn't mean thathistory didn't happen right, and
so acknowledging it is more isthe only thing I meant by saying
.
You know you're coming out thegate where everybody else has
already been out and they'rerunning the race, absolutely,
you know everybody else hasalready been out and they're
running, they're running therace, you know, but but you're
the, you are the originalgoddesses.
So I, that's why I, that's whyI love it.
I'm, I am honored every day tobe around Asia.

(50:13):
Maya Bree, I'm just, you know,it's kind of one of those things
where a long time ago I don'tknow what it was, it was
probably like I don't know,seven years, eight years ago, I
was, was like women just need totake over please can you take
over?
can you take over, please?
Like for the most part, menjust fuck so much shit up, but
we we as a society.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
I mean so much shit up, we suppress things we don't
understand right?
Yeah, suppress what we don'tunderstand and we suppress
things that make us feelinsecure, and I think that a lot
of feminine energy makes somany men insecure.
And that's across the board.
You know, and it's with otherbeings too we don't appreciate

(50:57):
what we don't understand.
Yeah, but how do you get peopleto understand?
How do you get people to seeyou?
How do you get people to see anelephant?
You know how do you.
How do you get people to seeyou?
How do you get people to see anelephant?
You know how do you?
How do you get there?
And I think it's throughfinding the commonalities,
working through the traumas andfiguring out a way forward where
you can do the least amount ofharm to those around you.

(51:17):
I mean, and that's that's mychi, that's how I try to move
forward in my life, if I can gothrough a day without impacting
someone, which is very hard todo.
I mean, the things we buy, thethings we eat, um, everything we
do has an impact.
But I think just really likedirecting that energy towards

(51:38):
not doing harm.
I mean, that's just my wayforward sanskrit you know like
that that's where I'm sittingright now and it kind of like
brings me.
I guess my thought train was Iwanted to come back to
post-elections and how peopleare grappling or how are we
going to go?
You said it January 20th.
How do we move?

Speaker 3 (51:57):
forward.
January 20th shock is going tobe the.
That is the point, you know,chaos and in your face.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Yeah, it's gonna be so in our faces and unapologetic
and so rude yeah, really likedisrespect, like that come on
that's no, it's inside, it's afeature well, probably what.
Who wants to bet we'll have umsome blackouts that day?
I mean anybody it's.

(52:24):
It's fortunate, lots of thingsare going to sadly erupt.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
It's just the for me.
I held a frequency of peacethat day, like literally in
meditation and like Vedic, likein silence and like really like
activating, radiating peacefullight.
But three days after I was hit.
You're talking the 5th November, 5th, yes yes, and three days
after I was was just like I gothit with it like, and not for
the simple fact because I knewhe was gonna win.
Actually, yeah, not for that,because we're going through a

(52:50):
dark night of the soul.
That has to happen.
The old has to collapse.
The divine feminine is rising.
Lessons are learning, learningless.
It's it's.
It's a part of our evolution.
That's been written by thegreatest minds and prophesizers
in the world.
It's's happening.
We can't fight it, but likeit's the people.
So how are we going to dealwith going to the grocery store,
driving these people who, withthe road, rage this woman?

(53:11):
was driving a thing middlefinger.
I was just praying and sendingher love.
I have deep mindfulnesspractices.
I am a shaman, I'm on ashamanic path and deep reverence
to the indigenous people whocame before for me and my elders
.
We have to come up and healourselves and hold that tuning
fork piece of free, likefrequency of peace, because it

(53:31):
is going to explode.
But I got so sad and grief anddepression for like a few days
because of me having to deal.
You know what I know I have todeal with in our world the hate
that's going to be risen andthen cause.
We have to stop moralizingeverything.
Everything is not good and bad,it's all yes and but that takes
an open mind.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
And even for you, knowing that we're going through
these trenches, because it'spart of the process and because,
but, as a human being with aheart and some compassion,
you're thinking to yourself well, along this journey, how many
people get hurt, how many peopleget stuck in a crossfire?
How many police do that, like?
How many riots incite violenceon this group of people?

(54:08):
So it's, it's really hard tofigure out how to move through
that when you know all of thesepeople and animals and the earth
are going to be impacted by it.
So so it's so, I guess.
How do we move forward?
You know what?
What is the way forward?
How do we build community?
How do we find like-mindedindividuals?
I think this is like thebiggest time for grassroots yes,

(54:30):
that we've had in at least ahundred.
I mean, this is big right now,like we have to get at the
ground.
And for me, I think, becauseI've been working in areas where
no one cares, you know, not, noone cares, everyone cares, the
community cares, but thegovernment may not care, the US

(54:52):
may not care, but you know, I'vebeen working in vulnerable
communities that are, you know,facing hunger and no electricity
and no power, and they've beenliving in isolation and guess
what?
We've been able to movemountains in those areas.
So I had to shift my focus.
I was going through the samething.
You know, it was like first daywas a shock, and then I just
felt heavy for the likefollowing days.

(55:14):
But then I just I flipped myscript and I was like no Asia
like you've been doing this workthis whole time.
You've been working withvulnerable populations, you've
been working with indigenoustribes.
We've been doing this.
We just have to keep going andwe have to keep adding more
people to our army of peace.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
We're doing it our inner work too.
We have to help each othersustain ourselves while we
connect each other to do thisdeep work.
That is an energetic shift atthe community level, Like us
sitting together, allowing usokay, now moving forward
concerts, events, workshops,like activating people to care,

(55:51):
Like, because how can you careabout healing your country if
you don't care about healingyourself?

Speaker 3 (55:55):
There's a period of seven weeks or whatever, but I
know our work's going to be cutout for us yes and what?
Inspires you now.
What are you looking forward to?
As far as what do you havecoming up kind of big project,
wise.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
I put a new single out, Seven Day Candle and my
podcast, Revolutionary Anecdotesand creating more activist.
Like workshops, and I have aworkshop called I Receive and
learning how to receive and givepermission where we do with of
permission, where we do with.
I'm a sound healer and soundbowls, but we do shadow work and
teaching people how to doshadow work and I'm just kind of
inspired through entertainmentor through poetry and activism

(56:31):
and activating people, Cause Ihave that gift and God's given
me that gift, so I have to useit and I mean, like you, I
performed in front of thousands.
I'm like, wow, I can't wait todo this and activate, like Joe
Dispenza does in rooms full ofthousands and wake people up and
activate them to learn how toempower themselves.
Like turn on people's light.
Like I, like Martin Luther,like I shine the light on the
darkness and I'm inspired to dothat in whichever way.

(56:53):
Spirit makes it known for me inthe less harm for everybody and
especially myself because, likeI said, I deserve rest and a
vacation.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Yes, you do so yeah, pushing limits, learning you

(57:20):
know, acting you know likepushing limits continuing to
train and continuing to inviteand be open minded and open mind
and talk to some and even notcancel people who voted for
Trump and actually talk to them.
I understand we have to call onmy ancestors who sat with Open
mind.
Yeah, yeah, I got it.
I got it.
Okay, cool, I got to exercisethat muscle the more we close it
off the more we close it off,the less the conversation is
happening.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
We have to be open, we have to create those spaces.
It has to be uncomfortable orthere's no forward motion.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Yeah, everyone just stays over here and everyone
just stays over here.
I'm by the Black Panther Party,where my ancestors sat in front
with the KKK.
They sat and they made treaties.
They made agreements, so ifthey did it, I can do it Exactly
.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Who the hell do I think I am.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Humble myself and put the full armor of God's spirit
creator on and not the halfarmor that's what's up?
Okay, so therefore, I have tomake sure my cup is full.
So I want to help activists andthought leaders and people fill
their cup up and learn energytools and leaders and in the
communities that are burnt outbecause we're just giving,
giving, giving, giving giving,but you're you're, you're on the
lead of death Like no, we needyou, so let's, let's learn how

(58:13):
to take care of self-care, notjust beauty self-care you know
like emotional, mental,spiritual self-care.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
Yeah, because we need them and we need them for the
long run.
Yes, yeah, well, before we go,how can people find you?
What's all the links, yourwebsite.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Yeah.
So Blue Nile is B-L-U-N-Y-L-Eworld and that is building,
loving, uniting new you,limitless empowerment, activists
, always belonging, liberating.
Yeah, blue Nile world I haverooted in power.
Healing is my shamanic reikimaster.
I'm a somatic coach andtherapist yoga, breath work all
things under wellness that Iteach in recovery coach as well.

(58:52):
So find me on the gram at bluenow world, at rooted in power
healing.
Revolutionary anecdotes isincredible podcast.
We talk about breakinggenerational curses and it was
birth when george floyd wasbrutally killed.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Four years ago, but what we're going?

Speaker 1 (59:06):
through now in a different way, with so
relaunching that and y'all areinspiring me and just continuing
to communicate and, just likeyou know, build community.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
You know I, I mean the, the impetus for uh, for me,
originally, starting the showwas to um, it did not feel like
artists alone.
I saw people not speaking outearly on and I was like I think
how long it took like evenTaylor Swift or something like
that, you know to speak out andyou like bringing the people who

(59:37):
it's Sonics, love, action,progress.
Because it's basically, ifyou're making noise like that,
just making noise, let's get,let's get on board, let's, let's
put, let's put our lovetogether with some action and we
will progress.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't tell you how much of apleasure it is.
Let's.
I want to do this again.
I want to keep in touch withwhat you're doing and please,

(59:59):
yeah, please, for sure, havingme Respect and respect both of
you Much love, thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:00:06):
Join me Sasha Petersa , on Women in the New Season 2,
where we bear it all except forour bodies.
Leave that to your imagination.
My wish for women is that westrip away the fear of judgment
and really embrace the fullspectrum of who we are.
I don't know if you were comingto terms with being pregnant on
the show.
Yeah, I think she was a littledepressed.
Let's live boldly and openlyand change the narratives that
define us.
I called my doctor.

(01:00:27):
I'm like I want to drive my carthrough a brick wall.
We deserve it and there's nobetter time than now.
Let's get out of our comfortzone and get down to the bottom
of who we are.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
All right, that was whoa I mean.
I don't even know, I don't havethe words.
I feel a higher energy justbeing around Blue Nile she
buzzes when she walks in.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
She's buzzing and I love I think.
I just thought about somethingkind of right now as we're
talking, like I don't knowyou're gonna get that kind of
conversation anywhere else rightnow, from the perspective of
the people at this table andwith her.
So, uh, yeah, like props on her.
She's bold and and I love that.

(01:01:15):
You know I love conversationlike and she's just like
radiating light yeah, you justsee it bouncing off the walls.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
So I'm so I feel so like just blessed that we were
able to have her here hell yeah,hell yeah all right, moving on
to, uh, another for us positivestory.
Um, is that too much?

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
yeah, no, it's great, that's great.
I'm like everyone's saying ityeah, yeah, so everybody's.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Well, we might as well chop it up um so so York
prosecutors have charged LuigiMangione with the murder in the
assassination of theUnitedHealthcare CEO, Brian
Thompson.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Yeah, that's right the 26-year-old Ivy League
graduate from Maryland.
He's also charged with twocounts of second-degree criminal
possession of a weapon, onecount of second-degree
possession of a forged documentand one count of third-degree
criminal possession of a firearm.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Online court documents show these parasites
had it coming is one line fromthe document.
That read, according to apolice official who had seen it.
Another reads I do apologizefor any strife and trauma, but
it had to be done.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
He's referring to UnitedHealthcare, describing
United as one of the largestcompanies by market
capitalization in the UnitedStates.
According to law sort of theshorthand for how they deny
claims, and I saw the graphtoday that united was and by far

(01:02:52):
the largest denier of healthcare claims in the whole gang of
kind of relatively awful healthcare companies that we have, um
, and in the in the unitedstates at least, and it's, you
know, permission to speak freely, your Honor, you know.
I mean it feels like like,obviously, you know, sort of

(01:03:17):
vigilante is not something thatat the core, we, we can't
devolve to that.
But it's really hard when thepresident of the United States
says fuck the rule of law, whatare we looking at, what are we
coming up, you know, like, whatare we, what are we dealing with
?
Up, you know like, what are we,what are we dealing with?

(01:03:39):
Yet people kind of have to takethings into their own hands.
If we are, if we are lettingour this happen, okay and not
pushing back against this stuff,to me that is a type of
pushback.
And uh, it's just sort ofnatural when you do this to
human beings and energy writlarge, you push that kind of
energy, it is going to push backat you, so well, and I can
imagine you know the.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
The I mean this is, you know, emotion against all of
the human beings that haveprobably lost their lives, not
probably that have lost theirlives, definitely yeah due to
their insurance being denied forone, you know reason, or I mean
.
It is a scam from every angle.
I mean all of it.

(01:04:19):
So I see where he's coming from.
Now, is murdering someone theright way to go?
No, but it brings about aconversation about change.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
And you would hope.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
But for me, the issue that I have with it is we can't
just go out, you know, killingall the bad guys and then
replacing them with more badguys.
We have to change from within.
So I don't know what the waymoving forward is for this.
I'm not mad at the guy either.
I mean we have to do somethingabout it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
So props to him.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
But also murdering everyone isn't going to be the
way forward, because now they'rejust going to move up somebody
from the other ass-backwardsboard committee that was having
a meeting while this was takingplace.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
I don't know, did you see this, brie?
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it wascold-blooded.
He was shot at like 8 in themorning and they were still
having their board meeting by 9.
They were like no, you ain'tstopping this train, man, the
green train runs on time everyday.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
It's illegal running mafia is what it is.
But you know, for my Italianfamily, you know mafia does a
lot of good, so I don't evenknow that I should call them
mafia.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
This is the conversation that needs to be
had the separation between thehaves and the have-nots.
You can't.
The foundational point ofhealth insurance can't be to
find out where we can deny, toincrease shareholders' bottom
line.
That's not how health careworks.
That's not how it's supposed towork.
Listen to Bernie Sanders.
He pipes it every day.

(01:06:01):
It's like he's saying he'stelling you how it should be and
so other countries do this.
Right, you know it's not, it'snot, it's not a fucking mystery.
Right, there are othercountries and other places that
do.
They do this a lot right?
So hopefully, uh, this, there'sa wake up that kind of happens
here.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
We've got a ton of exemplars to go after.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
European countries have been doing this right for
quite some time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Yeah, amen.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
All right.
Well, we've got one more superfun thing to do, one of our
favorite segments two scams anda slap.
That's right.
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Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
I haven't gotten this right yet, and we switch off
every show.
We switch off every yeah, Ithink Asia's 3-0 and I am 0-3.
I'm sucking ass at this.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Let's do it, though you know what you might get this
one today.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Okay, you might I have faith in you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
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Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Number two, los Angeles artist creates a series
of paintings using only expiredcondiments, sparking debates on
art and food.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
I love that.
Go LA.
And then okay, and what's three?

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
All right.
Then there is my co-host, slash, superhero slash, amazing
entrepreneur, slash, rock starum rick, who had a birthday and
we just want to know what's true.
That did I have a?

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
birthday.
I, I get this one right, I hada birthday.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
So we just we got to call it out on the show.
We just want to say happybirthday.
Aw For those listening.
Yes, Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, happy birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I just love listening to it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
We should not be singing Happy birthday, happy
birthday, I just love listeningto it.
We should not be singing Happybirthday to you Aw, for those
listening.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
There's a carrot or there's a candle inside a carrot
, and to signify that there isnext to it an actual, real
carrot cake.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Yeah, we know, I do like to eat healthy.
You like to eat?

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
healthy, and we know that.
You know we wanted a balancehere.
All right, so I'm going to eathealthy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
You like to eat healthy, and we know that we
wanted a balance here.
All right, so I'm going to makea wish.
Yep, okay, got it.
This is yet another test, well,and also, do you go carrot or
cake?

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
Oh yes, it is Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
It's a test?

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Yeah, okay, yeah, come on guys, all right, and you
know what they say about makingwishes on carrots.
What's that?
You just reminded me of what'sup, doc.
I'll leave that to the viewers.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
I'm sorry to be eating in your guys' ears.
No, no.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
We need the ASMR from the chewing of the carrots
Chewing in your ear.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Yeah, Nom nom.
Thank you guys for the carrots.
It was your ear.
Yeah, Nom nom.
Thank you guys for the carrots.
It was really sweet yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
Oh, definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Being in Los Angeles is, and we just went to the
water and then just drove on thecoast and that's the most
coolest thing about LA is likeyou want something cool to just
get in the car, drive west, andit was amazing.
So I love it that we got toenjoy our city and I look
forward to doing good stuff inour city next year and we're

(01:09:25):
certainly happy that you wereborn.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
Thank you, and we're glad you're here.
That's very sweet.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Thank you.
Thank you, I love it.
Okay, that will do it for ourshow Birthday and all.
Thank you, guys.
We're going to keep you postedon everything.
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