September 30, 2025 • 19 mins
Same country, fractured realities. Jerremy Alexander Newsome, Dave Conley, and Tyler Todt reveal how algorithmic feeds twist news, why speed kills accuracy, and how a moral compass sharpens your decisions. Discover reforms like spending caps that empower voters over noise.
Timestamps:
- (00:00) When “news” becomes entertainment
- (04:06) The moral-compass test for sources
- (10:17) Redesigning voting: time, access, parity
- (11:02) Follow the money, not the slogans
- (11:51) Spending caps and sunlight
- (13:59) The post-Citizens United cash flood
- (15:10) Gratitude over doomscrolling
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Alex (00:00):
Jerremy presses Tyler on sorting fact from algorithmic spin as social
feeds show completely differentrealities to different people.
The stakes sharpen—if Citizens United letscorporations buy politicians wholesale,
what chance do voters really have?
Jerremy (00:16):
Tyler how do you approach gathering information before voting?
Because it also does soundlike number one, you care.
Duh.
Awesome.
Thanks for being a great American citizen.
Number two, my boy overhere is paying income tax.
You're paying fuels tax sales tax.
When you buy groceries, you'repaying all kinds of cool taxes.
Awesome job.
How are you getting your information?
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242 (00:35):
Man it sucks nowadays, and I think this is
Jerremy (00:37):
Information?
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242 (00:39):
I,
Jerremy (00:39):
dude says it sucked and it
Sucked.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: crazy though, man. (00:42):
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You can watch the news and just soclearly see how much they lie to you.
I think anybody watching like Fox News,C-N-N-M-S-N-B-C, like you should just
know these are entertainment shows.
These are not news shows.
They don't just go out, gatherinformation and report it so that
you can think what you think.
They are owned by a certainsegment of people push narratives.
(01:06):
They will only report on those narratives.
and they'll find the news thatthey want a really I can give you
a thousand examples of this, right?
But we probably all see 'em ifyou're a thinking human being.
So that becomes really hard.
If I can't get my news from there,and I think it was different back in
the day when Walter Cronkite came out,you hear some of these people relive,
then he just presented what happenedand you got to make your own choice.
(01:27):
Of how you saw it.
I don't think that's theway the news works anymore.
So then you go to social mediaand you go to some of these other,
people, but you have to understandthat they have incentives as well.
what's the incentive?
In today's world, it's clicks, man.
I've got a quarter million followerson x, I could have 250 million if
I probably just tweeted nonsense.
Like some of these otheraccounts breaking news.
(01:49):
And you make things up, and then you'llsee a couple hours later a community
note, oh, that's actually not true.
But by then the guy's gone viraland he's gotten all the money in the
clicks and we've incentivized somekind of to be first instead of Right.
And we've incentivized forthis hyper political of like.
All you really have to do to grow onsocial media now is just attack one side.
(02:10):
If I really wanted to grow on socialmedia, I could either say Trump is
the greatest thing in the world.
Trump is the most evil thing in the world.
And just find narratives everyday, which you could to just go
a hundred miles an hour at that.
And that's where we fall.
And it's crazy because even if youlook at my feed versus my wife's
feed, our social media stuff,it's completely different news.
A
Dave (02:30):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: hundred percent completely. (02:30):
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They filter news to a female.
hundred percent, man.
They filter news to a female differentthan they're gonna filter it to a male.
It's a really challenging thing, man.
I have a couple people that I probablyjust trust and think that they
really try and do the right thing byputting the right information out.
But a lot of this man, it isgetting really hard to tell
(02:52):
what's real, what's not.
I tend to take a few dayswhen any story comes out.
isn't really like super news, but didyou guys see like the Phillies game where
that lady ran over and stole the ball?
Jerremy (03:03):
Yes, and I loved your take on it too.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: but I didn't comment for three days. (03:05):
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'cause I'm like, okay, numberone, did this really happen?
Is this right now?
I always give things a couple daysto make sure that it's like real,
and I think, man, that's onlygonna get worse as AI gets better.
Dave (03:17):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: That's gonna be tough. (03:18):
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So I think you gotta finda couple trusted sources.
That are usually on Substackor X or something like
that's not traditional media.
They're not owned by certain people.
Jerremy (03:28):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: Go on both sides too, because it's, (03:28):
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Jerremy (03:30):
yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: everything that Trump does is great. (03:31):
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I don't trust them.
Somebody who says everything, Trump,if you can't name, I, that's my test.
I always ask people when
Jerremy (03:38):
Good call.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: political. (03:39):
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I'm like, if they hate Trump, I'mlike can you tell me a couple things?
He is done well, and if they can't, I'mlike I disregard everything you think.
Everything.
And for the people that are all inTrump, I'm like can you name a couple
things that you think he doesn't do well?
And if they can't I'm done with them.
They're completely like anythingthey say is gonna be skewed.
And so I want people that fall in themiddle that are looking for truth,
(04:01):
that are just presenting facts.
But that's getting harderto find, to be honest.
Dave (04:06):
How.
How much does your own moralcompass play into this?
If things are getting harder to discern?
And I totally agree with that, right?
The people that I'm starting to listento more and more are the ones that
say, oh, I got this wrong, right?
They're willing to be like, uhoh, I gottaken, or, this was not the right take.
Tell me about your moralcompass and how that plays into
(04:28):
how you discern information.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: I think that's such a great point (04:31):
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and I respect people so much that canadmit, when new information comes in,
it's okay to say I had this one wrong.
Those are the people Ithink we should all follow.
And I think that's a greatpoint for my moral compass.
The first thing I'll sayis I think that too often.
If people are like, oh man, you votedfor Trump in 2024, so you agree with,
(04:51):
and then they list all the things thatI probably don't like that he does,
or he said, or he, it's no, like Ijust picked the lesser of two evils.
So it's understanding that for meif someone voted for Kamala, maybe
they just thought she was gonna doa better job in a couple areas that
they cared about more than I did.
I might have voted the other way'cause I just thought a couple.
It doesn't mean you align with everythingthey've ever done, everything they've ever
(05:13):
said and we're, we get in these camps nowwhere it's oh, you have to either be over
here or over there when I believe most ofus are like in this, 90% in the middle.
We're not in these fringe 10 percents.
So I
Jerremy (05:25):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: an understanding of that now if (05:25):
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I peel back the moral compass.
The thing it's really hard.
'cause again, I don't probably feel like.
candidates represent me.
I'm a Christian Guy.
Faith leads my life.
wouldn't leave my kids alone with the nineof the last 10 presidents or presidential
candidates, if I'm really honest.
(05:47):
I don't think I would, and so domorally, I think that, they're
gonna align with everything.
I think probably not.
And I think you just have tohave an acknowledgement of that.
And again, pick the bestof your choice, but.
I'll even say this to, to probablyget to those levels where you
think, imagine how craz this is.
I just Jerremy, you're one ofthe smartest guys I've ever met.
I bet you're too smart to say,dude, I have all the answers
(06:09):
and I could run the world and Icould do a perfect job and I'll
Jerremy (06:12):
I can't say that.
Yeah, can't say that.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: really think about it, that's (06:14):
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what the candidates are saying.
Nobody's better to run the world.
Make these decisions than me.
You've gotta have a really crazy ego,even to think that I think you're probably
not gonna align with most normal people.
'cause if you ask me,do you want this job?
I'm like, no, I don't want the stress.
No, I don't think I could do it.
No.
I, like I would just need to prayconstantly to try and ask for wisdom and
(06:37):
discern I don't think I'd be qualified.
And I think 99% of the normalpeople probably think that.
Then when you get a Trump or aKamala or a Clinton or a Bush or
whoever these people are, they'relike, yes, I have all the answers.
I can do it.
Like you probably need to have someacknowledgement that they're not gonna
be thinking like most rational, normalpeople to even get to those levels.
And I think you can see that inany industry, not just politics.
(07:00):
Jordan, greatest basketball player ever.
Sorry, LeBron.
But man, that dude, his roommatebeat him in checkers in college.
He didn't talk to him for two weeks.
There's legendary stories, like to be thebest, you gotta be a little bit crazy.
Steve Jobs look at him.
He thought he could beat cancer bymental toughness and eating fruit.
He just had.
This different kind of mindsetand I think to get to the very 1
(07:24):
0 0 0 1%, you have to have that.
So I think we gotta peel that backand acknowledge that just 'cause you
vote a certain way doesn't mean youalign with everything they think.
You just have to have a moralframework and say, what's
the best option for me here?
Jerremy (07:38):
Yep.
Agreed man.
At some point really what you'redescribing, I would label as
the majority of individuals.
'Cause you're talking aboutlike that massive center.
And it is interesting that we can'ttruly, or at least we haven't in
a very long time, to my currentknowledge, had a president, to your
point that was like, Hey I'm justtrying to figure all this stuff out.
(08:00):
Don't really know the answers.
Not entirely sure.
So I'm just gonna havea really good cabinet.
I'm gonna have some great advisors.
I'm gonna have somegreat people on my team.
I'm gonna have a lot of individuals helpme and just discuss and allow everything
to work out for my best benefit.
Let's do this together.
Let's figure this stuff out together.
It seems like we should.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242 (08:20):
Bro.
How refreshing would that be,
Jerremy (08:22):
Yeah, it'd be nice.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: I'm, I've been waiting for a (08:23):
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candidate to literally come upand say exactly what you said.
I don't have the like to even asksome crazy question about some.
Complex issue and just belike, here's my initial take.
But I would really need to study this moreand find people that are smarter than me.
And, I probably I've changedthe way I think about things.
All smart people do.
So what's crazy to me is like they'llbring something up from 15 years ago
(08:45):
and say why did you vote this way?
And they entrench.
Even though all the data might showthat it was wrong and it like the
Iraq war, like it's probably okayat this point to say, yeah, I voted
for it back then because I believedthey had weapons of mass destruction.
But now if I could go back withthe information I had, I was wrong.
Here's what I've learned from this.
Here's what
Jerremy (09:05):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: about it. (09:05):
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I would
Jerremy (09:06):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: person a hundred percent of the time. (09:07):
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That's my biggest problem probably withpolitics today, is that nobody will,
I don't see anybody doing that and
A pretty frustrating thing.
Dave (09:15):
Yeah, it was Kennedy in this last round and Sanders back in 2016.
Those were the only twopoliticians I have ever heard.
Say, oh, I got that wrongand I've changed my mind.
That was it.
I'm down with what you're saying,which is like humility is a
part that is missing for us.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: You respect that a lot. (09:32):
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And I probably don't agree with a lotof the Bernie Sanders policies, but I
will say I've heard him in long form onRogan a couple times and I do agree, I
think he's a pretty good human who mightactually believe in some of the things
he is saying and has admitted he's wrong.
And I do respect that a lot, man.
I think a guy like that I would be moreinclined to vote for than again, just a.
(09:54):
Fill in the blank from a lot of thelast people we've had who've never
made a mistake in their entire life.
And if you try and tell themthey have, they'll just attack
you to full nuclear till no end.
Dave (10:03):
Yeah.
Jerremy (10:04):
Yeah hey man, again, being a dad, a great dad by the way.
I'll throw it out there.
I,
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: one man. (10:10):
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Jerremy (10:11):
yeah, bro you do extremely well.
Great dad, great husband, great mentorto so many other people out there.
Picture an ideal voting systemfor a moment for your kids,
grandkids, the whole squad, right?
would it look and feeldifferent from today?
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: That's a great question. (10:31):
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I've thought about this a little bit, man.
So number one, I think we nailed it andthey should listen to us and they should
change national policy and we should havenovember 8th should be just a holiday.
It's a Tuesday.
are open at 6:00 AM They don't closetill 8:00 PM and it's a national holiday.
There's no school, families havecookouts and picnics, and it's just
a, Hey, we're electing leaders today.
(10:52):
That's what we do.
So I think that's number one.
Jerremy (10:54):
Right on.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: I think every candidate should have a (10:54):
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budget and it should be the same budget.
So you shouldn't just get to be abillionaire and be able to outspend it.
I read in non presidential races.
So we're talking about that one.
I think you can getaway with spending less.
'cause you get so much media coverage,especially if you're like a Trump
and you can get free media coverage.
'cause you're, you just saythings, you know how to do that.
(11:15):
But in the local races and not thepresidential, it's who spends more money
wins something like 92% of the time.
So you're just looking at it's just money.
And so we've gotta even that playingfield and just say, you shouldn't just
be able to buy a seat in congress.
And then go in and you see these peoplethat go in that they're worth $6 million
and then they come out of Congress 10years later, they've made 170,000 a year,
(11:37):
but they're somehow worth $237 million.
Yeah.
Really weird.
And so we've
Jerremy (11:43):
They're great at poker.
They're very good at poker.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: maybe they're just great man. (11:46):
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I don't know.
They never make a bad bet.
But I think you gotta get money out.
And so I think in today's day andage, this would be such an easy fix to
say every candidate gets will cap it.
For a Senate race, you get $2 millionto spend everyone, for a house.
You get 2 million.
For local, you get a hundred thousand.
What we could do is every candidatethen could have their own website and
(12:09):
everybody could have access to this,and they could show their voting record.
just very clearly lay out whattheir plans are for the future.
They could do some long form podcastswhere they get in depth about what they
want to do to fix it, and that's it.
every citizen can go on and say,okay, here's my choices in this.
It's not just whose name I'veheard or who's on the most
billboards or who, I don't knowhow people pick, but I go to vote.
(12:32):
I didn't even vote for certain people.
I've never heard of them.
Even when I try and do someresearch, it's so confusing.
But it's I think this could be so welllaid out that if you're a candidate,
you just have your own website.
Maybe they're all on a, on the samegovernment website, so everybody
has access to it and everybodyhas a capped amount you can spend.
So you cannot just spend, what did theKamala Harris campaign spend this year?
(12:55):
Wasn't it a billion?
Dave (12:57):
Hundred.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: It's like the craziest amount, and that's (12:57):
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Dave (12:59):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: Say that Trump probably didn't spend (12:59):
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a crazy amount too, but it's like, notfix the infrastructure and the veterans'
rights and the homelessness and that?
Like why not put some of thatmoney towards actual things
that'll help the citizens,healthcare and these things, right?
Mental health instead of.
We're spending billions of dollarsevery year for people campaigning.
(13:19):
That just seems ludicrous to me intoday's day and age where we, 99% of
us have access to the internet and theycould just show, here's how I voted.
Here's what I plan to do.
Here's my marketing pitch to you.
Here's the other candidate you decide.
It seems like it could be that easy.
Jerremy (13:36):
That's, yeah, makes sense.
You said really, you said let'sget money out of the system.
That's what I heard you say in the senseof we've gotta do a better job of that.
The challenge is that people that arecurrently in the system and entrenched
aren't, that's how they're makingall their money from insider trading.
And so they really don'twant that to happen.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: Yeah, you're gonna have a hard (13:56):
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time convincing them that's not a
It's, if you really go back again it'sthat law that got passed, citizens
United, where it said any corporationcan act as an individual and donate
unlimited amounts to politicians.
This is where everything changed.
Jerremy (14:10):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: if I'm just the CEO of the (14:10):
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largest bank in the US right?
I say to a politician,man, I'll get you elected.
So here's $50 million.
But when you get in, you have tovote this certain way in my interest.
And by the way, we'll give yourson a board seat at my bank and
he'll make $6 million a yearto show up to four meetings.
(14:31):
And by the way, when you retire fromthis spot, we got a board seat for you.
And by the way, we'll let youknow when our stock's gonna, when
we're gonna do a stock split.
So you can, and then most of thesepeople that might even go in with
good intentions wanting to help.
Now all of a sudden, man, maybe it'sa very immoral thing they need to vote
for, that's really gonna oppress people.
Dude, it's $50 million in boardseats and all, like most of those
(14:52):
people just make that choice.
And if you don't get that out, Ithink you're just gonna see this
cycle of maybe people go in withgood intentions, maybe people do.
But man, when you're presented withthat kind of stuff, the average
person is just gonna take themoney and justify it in their head.
Jerremy (15:08):
Yeah, so here's a good one, man.
Drawing from your coaching on mindsetshifts, 'cause you would classify
yourself definitely as a mindset coach.
What are.
Habit changes that couldhelp everyday people engage
more effectively with voting.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: The biggest one I that I haven't brought (15:27):
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up yet, and this is how I think youjust stay sane in our world today,
is I did it right before I hopped on.
I take three or four minutesevery morning and I journal out
a few things I'm grateful for.
And look, we've talkedabout some negative stuff.
There's too much money in politics.
Some taxes are high, some of these things.
But if we're really honest andwe peel it back, we live in an
(15:48):
amazing country, in an amazing time.
The average US citizen, even wholives at the mean lives better than
kings and queens did, for all of humanhistory, basically, like we're so
fricking blessed to live where we are.
Can it be better and shouldwe strive for better?
Of course.
But man, if all of us listening here, justtake a couple minutes today and think.
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How blessed am I?
Dude, I can go in a showerand I, it's climate controlled
and I just have ample food.
I don't have warring tribes that arecoming to invade my home generally,
and it hasn't been as easy as it'sbeen throughout all of human history
up until, the end of World War ii.
We've lived in relativepeace if you're in America.
And so we've had a couple generationsof just prosperity in good times
(16:29):
and that if you look back at humanhistory, that's not the case usually.
So I think coming at itwith a frame of gratitude.
say gratitude.
You cannot be grumpy andgrateful at the same time, and
so it's easy to be grumpy, man.
If I spend 30 minutes reading aboutpolitical scandals and corruption
and all that, I can be pretty grumpy.
My tax dollars are going for this, right?
(16:49):
I can get in that mindset.
And I think the antidote to that isjust by practicing gratitude every day.
do this with, by myself.
I do this with my kids.
What are we grateful for today?
School sucked, dad.
Okay.
Tell me the best thing about it, right?
Let's shift that mind from what wemight lack to what we're blessed by.
And so I think that's probablythe ultimate hack I have.
I think today is like 2,358 dayin a row or something like this,
(17:14):
that I've practiced gratitudeevery morning without fail.
writing a few things down I'm gratefulfor, and praying over and thinking about
those things just sets my mind on that.
So that, man, I'm notjust stuck in traffic.
And this sucks.
I'm blessed, I have a car I can turnon a cool podcast and listen to you
guys, and like there's always blessingsand always good things you can find.
(17:34):
So I think coming at it fromthat frame is very important.
Jerremy (17:38):
Yeah, man, because that's a mindset shift for the listeners,
my knowledge, to my experience,or to my recollection, you have.
Something that you focus on and whatyou focus on is what's gonna bring
the most energy towards your life.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242 (17:52):
Yes.
Jerremy (17:52):
So if you do focus more of your energy and bandwidth
on negative things, negativefeelings, outcomes, I'm in traffic.
Traffic sucks.
I hate traffic, I hate this.
This is awful.
You're going to have morenegativity in your life 'cause
you're focusing on negativity more.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: That's right. (18:10):
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Jerremy (18:11):
And those negative aspects can be anything.
It can be bank accounts, it can be.
Sicknesses.
It can be familydisturbances, it can be there.
There's, it can trickle down into awild amount daily meteorites mentally
that continue to pummel you becauseyou're always focusing on negative.
(18:33):
But to your point, you startswitching over to gratitude.
I can hear you say this, even if youvoted for someone and they did not win.
You would be very in that camp of,Hey, I, I still have a great house.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242 (18:47):
yeah.
Jerremy (18:47):
a great family.
I have a great body.
I love that person.
Even though I might not agree withall their beliefs, you could still
have gratitude towards a president
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: Absolutely (18:58):
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Jerremy (18:59):
entirely different camp than you as well.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: hundred percent. (19:02):
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Man, this is such a great point.
I'm glad you bring it up.
My daughter is in fifth grade thisyear, but when the election was going
on, they were doing mock elections,I think, to teach the kids, how
the voting system works and all.
And so my daughter came to me and saiddad what's gonna happen if Trump wins
or what's gonna happen if Kamala wins?
I don't think she expected the answer.
My answer was, we're stillgonna go to church every week.
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We're still going to eathealthy and be healthy.
We're still gonna make moneyand be wealthy and prosperous.
We're still gonna have a loving home.
Your mom and I are gonna be madly in love.
We're gonna love you guys.
Like absolutely nothing isgonna change in your life.
Alex (19:35):
Next up, Dave challenges Tyler on helping those trapped
in darkness, but Tyler pivots toradical ownership—your daily actions
matter MORE than any president.
Still, one government loophole makesTyler's blood boil beyond his zen...
Jerremy presses Tyler on sorting fact from algorithmic spin as social
feeds show completely differentrealities to different people.
The stakes sharpen—if Citizens United letscorporations buy politicians wholesale,
what chance do voters really have?
Jerremy (00:16):
Tyler how do you approach gathering information before voting?
Because it also does soundlike number one, you care.
Duh.
Awesome.
Thanks for being a great American citizen.
Number two, my boy overhere is paying income tax.
You're paying fuels tax sales tax.
When you buy groceries, you'repaying all kinds of cool taxes.
Awesome job.
How are you getting your information?
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242 (00:35):
Man it sucks nowadays, and I think this is
Jerremy (00:37):
Information?
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242 (00:39):
I,
Jerremy (00:39):
dude says it sucked and it
Sucked.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: crazy though, man. (00:42):
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You can watch the news and just soclearly see how much they lie to you.
I think anybody watching like Fox News,C-N-N-M-S-N-B-C, like you should just
know these are entertainment shows.
These are not news shows.
They don't just go out, gatherinformation and report it so that
you can think what you think.
They are owned by a certainsegment of people push narratives.
(01:06):
They will only report on those narratives.
and they'll find the news thatthey want a really I can give you
a thousand examples of this, right?
But we probably all see 'em ifyou're a thinking human being.
So that becomes really hard.
If I can't get my news from there,and I think it was different back in
the day when Walter Cronkite came out,you hear some of these people relive,
then he just presented what happenedand you got to make your own choice.
(01:27):
Of how you saw it.
I don't think that's theway the news works anymore.
So then you go to social mediaand you go to some of these other,
people, but you have to understandthat they have incentives as well.
what's the incentive?
In today's world, it's clicks, man.
I've got a quarter million followerson x, I could have 250 million if
I probably just tweeted nonsense.
Like some of these otheraccounts breaking news.
(01:49):
And you make things up, and then you'llsee a couple hours later a community
note, oh, that's actually not true.
But by then the guy's gone viraland he's gotten all the money in the
clicks and we've incentivized somekind of to be first instead of Right.
And we've incentivized forthis hyper political of like.
All you really have to do to grow onsocial media now is just attack one side.
(02:10):
If I really wanted to grow on socialmedia, I could either say Trump is
the greatest thing in the world.
Trump is the most evil thing in the world.
And just find narratives everyday, which you could to just go
a hundred miles an hour at that.
And that's where we fall.
And it's crazy because even if youlook at my feed versus my wife's
feed, our social media stuff,it's completely different news.
A
Dave (02:30):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: hundred percent completely. (02:30):
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They filter news to a female.
hundred percent, man.
They filter news to a female differentthan they're gonna filter it to a male.
It's a really challenging thing, man.
I have a couple people that I probablyjust trust and think that they
really try and do the right thing byputting the right information out.
But a lot of this man, it isgetting really hard to tell
(02:52):
what's real, what's not.
I tend to take a few dayswhen any story comes out.
isn't really like super news, but didyou guys see like the Phillies game where
that lady ran over and stole the ball?
Jerremy (03:03):
Yes, and I loved your take on it too.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: but I didn't comment for three days. (03:05):
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'cause I'm like, okay, numberone, did this really happen?
Is this right now?
I always give things a couple daysto make sure that it's like real,
and I think, man, that's onlygonna get worse as AI gets better.
Dave (03:17):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: That's gonna be tough. (03:18):
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So I think you gotta finda couple trusted sources.
That are usually on Substackor X or something like
that's not traditional media.
They're not owned by certain people.
Jerremy (03:28):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: Go on both sides too, because it's, (03:28):
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Jerremy (03:30):
yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: everything that Trump does is great. (03:31):
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I don't trust them.
Somebody who says everything, Trump,if you can't name, I, that's my test.
I always ask people when
Jerremy (03:38):
Good call.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: political. (03:39):
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I'm like, if they hate Trump, I'mlike can you tell me a couple things?
He is done well, and if they can't, I'mlike I disregard everything you think.
Everything.
And for the people that are all inTrump, I'm like can you name a couple
things that you think he doesn't do well?
And if they can't I'm done with them.
They're completely like anythingthey say is gonna be skewed.
And so I want people that fall in themiddle that are looking for truth,
(04:01):
that are just presenting facts.
But that's getting harderto find, to be honest.
Dave (04:06):
How.
How much does your own moralcompass play into this?
If things are getting harder to discern?
And I totally agree with that, right?
The people that I'm starting to listento more and more are the ones that
say, oh, I got this wrong, right?
They're willing to be like, uhoh, I gottaken, or, this was not the right take.
Tell me about your moralcompass and how that plays into
(04:28):
how you discern information.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: I think that's such a great point (04:31):
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and I respect people so much that canadmit, when new information comes in,
it's okay to say I had this one wrong.
Those are the people Ithink we should all follow.
And I think that's a greatpoint for my moral compass.
The first thing I'll sayis I think that too often.
If people are like, oh man, you votedfor Trump in 2024, so you agree with,
(04:51):
and then they list all the things thatI probably don't like that he does,
or he said, or he, it's no, like Ijust picked the lesser of two evils.
So it's understanding that for meif someone voted for Kamala, maybe
they just thought she was gonna doa better job in a couple areas that
they cared about more than I did.
I might have voted the other way'cause I just thought a couple.
It doesn't mean you align with everythingthey've ever done, everything they've ever
(05:13):
said and we're, we get in these camps nowwhere it's oh, you have to either be over
here or over there when I believe most ofus are like in this, 90% in the middle.
We're not in these fringe 10 percents.
So I
Jerremy (05:25):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: an understanding of that now if (05:25):
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I peel back the moral compass.
The thing it's really hard.
'cause again, I don't probably feel like.
candidates represent me.
I'm a Christian Guy.
Faith leads my life.
wouldn't leave my kids alone with the nineof the last 10 presidents or presidential
candidates, if I'm really honest.
(05:47):
I don't think I would, and so domorally, I think that, they're
gonna align with everything.
I think probably not.
And I think you just have tohave an acknowledgement of that.
And again, pick the bestof your choice, but.
I'll even say this to, to probablyget to those levels where you
think, imagine how craz this is.
I just Jerremy, you're one ofthe smartest guys I've ever met.
I bet you're too smart to say,dude, I have all the answers
(06:09):
and I could run the world and Icould do a perfect job and I'll
Jerremy (06:12):
I can't say that.
Yeah, can't say that.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: really think about it, that's (06:14):
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what the candidates are saying.
Nobody's better to run the world.
Make these decisions than me.
You've gotta have a really crazy ego,even to think that I think you're probably
not gonna align with most normal people.
'cause if you ask me,do you want this job?
I'm like, no, I don't want the stress.
No, I don't think I could do it.
No.
I, like I would just need to prayconstantly to try and ask for wisdom and
(06:37):
discern I don't think I'd be qualified.
And I think 99% of the normalpeople probably think that.
Then when you get a Trump or aKamala or a Clinton or a Bush or
whoever these people are, they'relike, yes, I have all the answers.
I can do it.
Like you probably need to have someacknowledgement that they're not gonna
be thinking like most rational, normalpeople to even get to those levels.
And I think you can see that inany industry, not just politics.
(07:00):
Jordan, greatest basketball player ever.
Sorry, LeBron.
But man, that dude, his roommatebeat him in checkers in college.
He didn't talk to him for two weeks.
There's legendary stories, like to be thebest, you gotta be a little bit crazy.
Steve Jobs look at him.
He thought he could beat cancer bymental toughness and eating fruit.
He just had.
This different kind of mindsetand I think to get to the very 1
(07:24):
0 0 0 1%, you have to have that.
So I think we gotta peel that backand acknowledge that just 'cause you
vote a certain way doesn't mean youalign with everything they think.
You just have to have a moralframework and say, what's
the best option for me here?
Jerremy (07:38):
Yep.
Agreed man.
At some point really what you'redescribing, I would label as
the majority of individuals.
'Cause you're talking aboutlike that massive center.
And it is interesting that we can'ttruly, or at least we haven't in
a very long time, to my currentknowledge, had a president, to your
point that was like, Hey I'm justtrying to figure all this stuff out.
(08:00):
Don't really know the answers.
Not entirely sure.
So I'm just gonna havea really good cabinet.
I'm gonna have some great advisors.
I'm gonna have somegreat people on my team.
I'm gonna have a lot of individuals helpme and just discuss and allow everything
to work out for my best benefit.
Let's do this together.
Let's figure this stuff out together.
It seems like we should.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242 (08:20):
Bro.
How refreshing would that be,
Jerremy (08:22):
Yeah, it'd be nice.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: I'm, I've been waiting for a (08:23):
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candidate to literally come upand say exactly what you said.
I don't have the like to even asksome crazy question about some.
Complex issue and just belike, here's my initial take.
But I would really need to study this moreand find people that are smarter than me.
And, I probably I've changedthe way I think about things.
All smart people do.
So what's crazy to me is like they'llbring something up from 15 years ago
(08:45):
and say why did you vote this way?
And they entrench.
Even though all the data might showthat it was wrong and it like the
Iraq war, like it's probably okayat this point to say, yeah, I voted
for it back then because I believedthey had weapons of mass destruction.
But now if I could go back withthe information I had, I was wrong.
Here's what I've learned from this.
Here's what
Jerremy (09:05):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: about it. (09:05):
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I would
Jerremy (09:06):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: person a hundred percent of the time. (09:07):
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That's my biggest problem probably withpolitics today, is that nobody will,
I don't see anybody doing that and
A pretty frustrating thing.
Dave (09:15):
Yeah, it was Kennedy in this last round and Sanders back in 2016.
Those were the only twopoliticians I have ever heard.
Say, oh, I got that wrongand I've changed my mind.
That was it.
I'm down with what you're saying,which is like humility is a
part that is missing for us.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: You respect that a lot. (09:32):
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And I probably don't agree with a lotof the Bernie Sanders policies, but I
will say I've heard him in long form onRogan a couple times and I do agree, I
think he's a pretty good human who mightactually believe in some of the things
he is saying and has admitted he's wrong.
And I do respect that a lot, man.
I think a guy like that I would be moreinclined to vote for than again, just a.
(09:54):
Fill in the blank from a lot of thelast people we've had who've never
made a mistake in their entire life.
And if you try and tell themthey have, they'll just attack
you to full nuclear till no end.
Dave (10:03):
Yeah.
Jerremy (10:04):
Yeah hey man, again, being a dad, a great dad by the way.
I'll throw it out there.
I,
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: one man. (10:10):
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Jerremy (10:11):
yeah, bro you do extremely well.
Great dad, great husband, great mentorto so many other people out there.
Picture an ideal voting systemfor a moment for your kids,
grandkids, the whole squad, right?
would it look and feeldifferent from today?
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: That's a great question. (10:31):
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I've thought about this a little bit, man.
So number one, I think we nailed it andthey should listen to us and they should
change national policy and we should havenovember 8th should be just a holiday.
It's a Tuesday.
are open at 6:00 AM They don't closetill 8:00 PM and it's a national holiday.
There's no school, families havecookouts and picnics, and it's just
a, Hey, we're electing leaders today.
(10:52):
That's what we do.
So I think that's number one.
Jerremy (10:54):
Right on.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: I think every candidate should have a (10:54):
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budget and it should be the same budget.
So you shouldn't just get to be abillionaire and be able to outspend it.
I read in non presidential races.
So we're talking about that one.
I think you can getaway with spending less.
'cause you get so much media coverage,especially if you're like a Trump
and you can get free media coverage.
'cause you're, you just saythings, you know how to do that.
(11:15):
But in the local races and not thepresidential, it's who spends more money
wins something like 92% of the time.
So you're just looking at it's just money.
And so we've gotta even that playingfield and just say, you shouldn't just
be able to buy a seat in congress.
And then go in and you see these peoplethat go in that they're worth $6 million
and then they come out of Congress 10years later, they've made 170,000 a year,
(11:37):
but they're somehow worth $237 million.
Yeah.
Really weird.
And so we've
Jerremy (11:43):
They're great at poker.
They're very good at poker.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: maybe they're just great man. (11:46):
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I don't know.
They never make a bad bet.
But I think you gotta get money out.
And so I think in today's day andage, this would be such an easy fix to
say every candidate gets will cap it.
For a Senate race, you get $2 millionto spend everyone, for a house.
You get 2 million.
For local, you get a hundred thousand.
What we could do is every candidatethen could have their own website and
(12:09):
everybody could have access to this,and they could show their voting record.
just very clearly lay out whattheir plans are for the future.
They could do some long form podcastswhere they get in depth about what they
want to do to fix it, and that's it.
every citizen can go on and say,okay, here's my choices in this.
It's not just whose name I'veheard or who's on the most
billboards or who, I don't knowhow people pick, but I go to vote.
(12:32):
I didn't even vote for certain people.
I've never heard of them.
Even when I try and do someresearch, it's so confusing.
But it's I think this could be so welllaid out that if you're a candidate,
you just have your own website.
Maybe they're all on a, on the samegovernment website, so everybody
has access to it and everybodyhas a capped amount you can spend.
So you cannot just spend, what did theKamala Harris campaign spend this year?
(12:55):
Wasn't it a billion?
Dave (12:57):
Hundred.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: It's like the craziest amount, and that's (12:57):
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Dave (12:59):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: Say that Trump probably didn't spend (12:59):
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a crazy amount too, but it's like, notfix the infrastructure and the veterans'
rights and the homelessness and that?
Like why not put some of thatmoney towards actual things
that'll help the citizens,healthcare and these things, right?
Mental health instead of.
We're spending billions of dollarsevery year for people campaigning.
(13:19):
That just seems ludicrous to me intoday's day and age where we, 99% of
us have access to the internet and theycould just show, here's how I voted.
Here's what I plan to do.
Here's my marketing pitch to you.
Here's the other candidate you decide.
It seems like it could be that easy.
Jerremy (13:36):
That's, yeah, makes sense.
You said really, you said let'sget money out of the system.
That's what I heard you say in the senseof we've gotta do a better job of that.
The challenge is that people that arecurrently in the system and entrenched
aren't, that's how they're makingall their money from insider trading.
And so they really don'twant that to happen.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: Yeah, you're gonna have a hard (13:56):
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time convincing them that's not a
It's, if you really go back again it'sthat law that got passed, citizens
United, where it said any corporationcan act as an individual and donate
unlimited amounts to politicians.
This is where everything changed.
Jerremy (14:10):
Yeah.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: if I'm just the CEO of the (14:10):
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largest bank in the US right?
I say to a politician,man, I'll get you elected.
So here's $50 million.
But when you get in, you have tovote this certain way in my interest.
And by the way, we'll give yourson a board seat at my bank and
he'll make $6 million a yearto show up to four meetings.
(14:31):
And by the way, when you retire fromthis spot, we got a board seat for you.
And by the way, we'll let youknow when our stock's gonna, when
we're gonna do a stock split.
So you can, and then most of thesepeople that might even go in with
good intentions wanting to help.
Now all of a sudden, man, maybe it'sa very immoral thing they need to vote
for, that's really gonna oppress people.
Dude, it's $50 million in boardseats and all, like most of those
(14:52):
people just make that choice.
And if you don't get that out, Ithink you're just gonna see this
cycle of maybe people go in withgood intentions, maybe people do.
But man, when you're presented withthat kind of stuff, the average
person is just gonna take themoney and justify it in their head.
Jerremy (15:08):
Yeah, so here's a good one, man.
Drawing from your coaching on mindsetshifts, 'cause you would classify
yourself definitely as a mindset coach.
What are.
Habit changes that couldhelp everyday people engage
more effectively with voting.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: The biggest one I that I haven't brought (15:27):
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up yet, and this is how I think youjust stay sane in our world today,
is I did it right before I hopped on.
I take three or four minutesevery morning and I journal out
a few things I'm grateful for.
And look, we've talkedabout some negative stuff.
There's too much money in politics.
Some taxes are high, some of these things.
But if we're really honest andwe peel it back, we live in an
(15:48):
amazing country, in an amazing time.
The average US citizen, even wholives at the mean lives better than
kings and queens did, for all of humanhistory, basically, like we're so
fricking blessed to live where we are.
Can it be better and shouldwe strive for better?
Of course.
But man, if all of us listening here, justtake a couple minutes today and think.
(16:08):
How blessed am I?
Dude, I can go in a showerand I, it's climate controlled
and I just have ample food.
I don't have warring tribes that arecoming to invade my home generally,
and it hasn't been as easy as it'sbeen throughout all of human history
up until, the end of World War ii.
We've lived in relativepeace if you're in America.
And so we've had a couple generationsof just prosperity in good times
(16:29):
and that if you look back at humanhistory, that's not the case usually.
So I think coming at itwith a frame of gratitude.
say gratitude.
You cannot be grumpy andgrateful at the same time, and
so it's easy to be grumpy, man.
If I spend 30 minutes reading aboutpolitical scandals and corruption
and all that, I can be pretty grumpy.
My tax dollars are going for this, right?
(16:49):
I can get in that mindset.
And I think the antidote to that isjust by practicing gratitude every day.
do this with, by myself.
I do this with my kids.
What are we grateful for today?
School sucked, dad.
Okay.
Tell me the best thing about it, right?
Let's shift that mind from what wemight lack to what we're blessed by.
And so I think that's probablythe ultimate hack I have.
I think today is like 2,358 dayin a row or something like this,
(17:14):
that I've practiced gratitudeevery morning without fail.
writing a few things down I'm gratefulfor, and praying over and thinking about
those things just sets my mind on that.
So that, man, I'm notjust stuck in traffic.
And this sucks.
I'm blessed, I have a car I can turnon a cool podcast and listen to you
guys, and like there's always blessingsand always good things you can find.
(17:34):
So I think coming at it fromthat frame is very important.
Jerremy (17:38):
Yeah, man, because that's a mindset shift for the listeners,
my knowledge, to my experience,or to my recollection, you have.
Something that you focus on and whatyou focus on is what's gonna bring
the most energy towards your life.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242 (17:52):
Yes.
Jerremy (17:52):
So if you do focus more of your energy and bandwidth
on negative things, negativefeelings, outcomes, I'm in traffic.
Traffic sucks.
I hate traffic, I hate this.
This is awful.
You're going to have morenegativity in your life 'cause
you're focusing on negativity more.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: That's right. (18:10):
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Jerremy (18:11):
And those negative aspects can be anything.
It can be bank accounts, it can be.
Sicknesses.
It can be familydisturbances, it can be there.
There's, it can trickle down into awild amount daily meteorites mentally
that continue to pummel you becauseyou're always focusing on negative.
(18:33):
But to your point, you startswitching over to gratitude.
I can hear you say this, even if youvoted for someone and they did not win.
You would be very in that camp of,Hey, I, I still have a great house.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242 (18:47):
yeah.
Jerremy (18:47):
a great family.
I have a great body.
I love that person.
Even though I might not agree withall their beliefs, you could still
have gratitude towards a president
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: Absolutely (18:58):
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Jerremy (18:59):
entirely different camp than you as well.
Tylertyler-todt_1_09-08-2025_060242: hundred percent. (19:02):
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Man, this is such a great point.
I'm glad you bring it up.
My daughter is in fifth grade thisyear, but when the election was going
on, they were doing mock elections,I think, to teach the kids, how
the voting system works and all.
And so my daughter came to me and saiddad what's gonna happen if Trump wins
or what's gonna happen if Kamala wins?
I don't think she expected the answer.
My answer was, we're stillgonna go to church every week.
(19:23):
We're still going to eathealthy and be healthy.
We're still gonna make moneyand be wealthy and prosperous.
We're still gonna have a loving home.
Your mom and I are gonna be madly in love.
We're gonna love you guys.
Like absolutely nothing isgonna change in your life.
Alex (19:35):
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in darkness, but Tyler pivots toradical ownership—your daily actions
matter MORE than any president.
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