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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome.
I am so excited to have thelovely Judith Cunningham as a
guest today.
She is a life, spiritual andsound healing coach and also an
author of Power Thesaurus,Creating a Greater Way of
Communication.
Through sound baths, breathworkand heart-centered techniques,
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she helps people experience deeptransformation, whether it's
releasing emotions, shiftingperspectives or reconnecting
with their true selves.
Her work goes beyond relaxation, guiding others to align with
their heart and embrace healingon all levels.
Welcome, Judith, I'm so happyto have you here today, Thank
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you.
Thank you, Tabatha.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I really appreciate it.
I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Judith and I met through BNI, which is a
networking group, and we're bothpart of the wellness team, and
when I started thinking abouthow I wanted to move the podcast
forward, I really wanted to getthe stories of everyday heroes,
and I think everyday heroes, inmy opinion, are people who have
overcome something great andnow help others do the same, and
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so that's the focus of our talktoday, and I'm really excited
to hear more about how you gotinto what you do.
But let me ask you, what waslife like before your healing
journey began?
Like what was it that was thecatalyst for change?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
it's.
It's funny to remember thosemoments because I used to be
like very quiet, shy, I wouldnot talk to people.
I will for years, for years, Iwalk with my head down because I
didn't want to, um, I didn'twant people to see me or to talk
to me or anything but uh withlife.
What I noticed is like the moreI did that, the more I was
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creating a barrier and even withthat barrier was blaming
everyone else instead of lookingwithin right and it was just
making that world bigger andbigger and still judging others,
being mad at others, and it'stheir fault, it's all their
fault.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Now victim consciousness is sneaky because
it sounds so real.
I mean, I used to becodependent and I have journals
of other people's fault likejust journals, and it was like I
never considered myself someonewho did that.
And then, looking back, I'mlike who, who is this?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It was interesting because, um, I feel like those
are the things that they shouldteach at school, in essence.
So I didn't know that I was init, I didn't know that that was
my fault.
Everything that was happeningin my life it was because of my
way of thinking, my perspectiveand all that.
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And I was going through a lotof different situations, very
painful situations, so many thatthey accumulated, accumulated
so many, that finally, onetriggered me the most, and it
was like when I moved to Oregonand I was like it was a person
that I felt like again blaminghim.
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You hurt me so much, why can'tyou love me?
I know I'm a good person, blahblah, blah blah, but then, okay,
we'll stay there for a second.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
yes, yes, I've heard myself and my clients say that
like so many times, because I doa lot of work with people
around heartbreak and um that,that sentence why couldn't you
love me?
What made you open yourself upto that like conversation with
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yourself?
And it was that the like momentyou decided to look inside?
Or was it cause that's apowerful statement that I think
a lot of people with you knowanxious attachment styles or you
know those kind of like othertypes of attachment styles that
are not aligned with secureattachment styles.
I don't know how much you knowabout that, but those are
sentence that runs around in ourhead a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
A lot, but it wasn't again.
It was because of this guy.
I was so attached to thisperson and I felt like I gave
everything of me my home, money,car, everything hoping that by
being that way, that personwould love me.
But after a year of doing allthat, I asked this person hey,
so how do you feel about me?
And their answer was like oh no, it's like what the heck like,
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after everything I've beengiving and done, it's like so it
hurts so much.
But at the same time, it was atthat moment that I had two
voices, very loud one and youknow, when you have the two
angels right here, one is theangel and demon, not two angels.
I'm familiar, yeah.
But this was like oh, come on,well, you're having fun with it,
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just stay, At least you havesomeone.
I mean, you don't have to beloved, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, but I will feel the painand I will look for him.
And the fear factor is like oh,okay, fine, I want to stay with
this person, no matter what.
But the other voice, which Iknew, was my heart.
Literally my heart was like youknow, this is not right for you
.
You know, this is not theperson for you.
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You know you're not happy, butit was so strong that it would
give me the strength to break itup.
Okay, I'm done.
Yeah, I know my power.
But then this voice got loudertoo, no, but look at you.
And I did break up with himlike six times and until the
sixth time he was annoyed by itand blocked me on everything and
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that caused so much pain, likeextreme pain.
Those two voices kind of gotquiet and it just brought me
back to me, in a sense, the painthat I was feeling.
But I remember sitting um bymyself just thinking about that,
feeling the pain.
But also, again, that questionis like what, what is it that I
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need to do or be in order to beloved?
And there was no answer.
But then then I was like, waita minute, that person did the
same, that person did this.
That person did this thatperson.
All my relations have been thesame and if they all have been
the same, they were differentpeople, they were not all the
same, but they have the samefactor.
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That was me, it's like.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Oh, so it's's me, it has to be me I love that because
we do something in um coachingand I don't know what your
process is, but it's called theunconscious pattern and it's
like you can look at anyfailures in your life and
there's a pattern or a programthat's the same in all of them
and it doesn't matter if it'slike across relationships or
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money or success.
There's an unconscious patternthat like weaves into all of
them yeah, it's very interestinghow we are not aware.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Again, those are the things that they should teach us
in life, you know, I agree.
So I remember sitting there andit was like, okay, wait a
minute, wait a minute.
So if it's me, how would I feel?
Let's pretend that I'm sittingin front of myself.
How would I feel about myself?
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And I was like, holy moly, Ihate looking at myself in the
mirror.
I look down.
I don't talk with people.
I've always put in a barrier.
It's like I don't love myself,and if I don't love myself, how
do I expect anyone else to loveme?
It's like, oh my God.
It's like we know those thingsbut at the same time, we don't
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really grasp them.
I guess.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It's interesting because I think there's a huge
movement for self love.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
But I don't think people understand it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I don't think they really understand what the
journey looks like.
It is a hero's journey, thatprocess of loving yourself, and
that is.
It is an interesting one, notone I was expecting to go on,
but yeah it's, it's a bravejourney.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It is because once I had that realization, I broke
into tears.
It was even more painful torealize that all this time I was
expecting someone to dosomething for me and to show me
that love, that acceptance.
That's why I was giving so muchto hope for something, and I
never got anything.
Or maybe I got it, but I was soclose off that I wouldn't even
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see it, I wouldn't even noticeit, which that's true too.
So I was crying now because itwas a huge realization, but also
okay, what do I do now?
How do I love myself?
What does that look like?
We're not here to there now,you know.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
How did you?
What was the, what was theprocess that you followed?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
so I remember someone says, like I have, if I could
look at something beautifulabout myself and little by
little will start believing it,then at some point I will see it
.
So since I hated looking atmyself in the mirror, um, I will
go.
I decided I made it a purposeto find or see something
beautiful in me, whatever it was.
So I will go to the bathroomand I looked at my eyes and the
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light was reflecting on my eyesso they look bright and I
believed it.
I could see that like, oh, myeyes are bright, I mean, that's
it.
I would not look at myself forthe entire day in the mirror so
I wouldn't go oh my god, butlook at me, how ugly.
Like all that shattering thatwe do to ourselves, especially
we women.
But I discovered men do thattoo a lot they don't they do for
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that same reason.
Um, so I decided to do that, butI was consistent.
I know that now, uh, repetitionis important.
Consistent every day, you knowday.
So every day I was doing thesame oh, my eyes are right.
Oh, my eyes are right, and Icould see it Again.
It was easy to believe, but Iknew it was the light, not me.
But it was another two weeksthat I got up, I went to the
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bathroom and I was just going todo the same routine.
But when I looked at myself inthe mirror for first time, I saw
who I really was my, my, myskin was shining and my cheeks
were kind of pinkish and my eyeswere brighter, not because of
the lights, even though thelight was still there, but with
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just a natural brightness inthem.
And I cried again because I waslike I was so beautiful, yeah,
no, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I'm so glad you said that because you are beautiful
and it's um, you know it'spowerful to say it out loud
because it takes time to say itfrom a place of genuine
authenticity like the.
The holistic beauty is is what,you know, I think about when I
think about beauty.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yes, it is.
It comes from within.
It is true that when they tellyou, go within, go within,
there's a thing within that youcan feel.
You can really feel it, andit's so powerful that it just
radiates out, you know.
(11:06):
Again, going back to theimportance of if you want to
change the world here, likeliterally right here.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh my gosh, isn't that the truth?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
yes, yes.
And it was so powerful because,again, I cried and I could see
it.
It's like I couldn't believe atthe same time that it was that
easy.
It's like it is easy like, butit wasn't easy.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
You had to do it for two weeks and like, look at
yourself, like and run away, soit wasn't easy once you get
there, it's like no freaking way.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh, the power is in my hand, it's in me.
So I said it that every time Itook showers or putting lotion
on me, I was like I love you,like I literally feel I love you
, love you, love you.
And every time, uh, I rememberthe first time I went outside I
had to go to a class andfreaking people were stopping me
on the streets like I'm sorry,I don't want to scare you, but
it's like I just had to tell youyou have a glow around you it's
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true, because it's all energyand like when you have a
negative thought loop in yourhead, you're creating a negative
field around you and it almostlike attracts more negativity.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
And then you start like loving who you are and
accepting it and just shininglight and love.
Wherever you go, people do stopyou.
They're like you look different, did something happen and it's
like, yeah, I decided to lovemyself a little bit, like I mean
, it's contagious.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It is, it is so it was.
It was very powerful, verybeautiful for me to do that.
I put a mirror at the entranceon my, on my um apartment at
that time and every time I willgo out on it, it's like but this
time I will feel it.
It hasn't stopped, it hasn'tstopped.
But once I shifted that, notonly I looked different, I felt
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different, I thought different,you know, and once I did that,
my whole reality changed.
People that I was encounteringor meeting situations,
everything was just likeskyrocketing, pretty much Like
everything is getting better andbetter and better and better
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and better.
It's like, wow, this is like sopowerful.
And to me, again, theimportance of helping people to
go back to their hearts, toloving themselves.
Yeah, and it's a cool book.
I don't remember now I shouldhave looked at them Love
yourself like your life, lifeDepending On it.
That's the title of the book.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Oh, cool, nice.
Okay, I'll find it and put alink in the show notes.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
This is such a again after that experience.
I'm not the only one.
We all have gone through thatand we know within us that if we
don't love ourselves, life isnot that easy.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
It's not.
It's not easy because it's fullof self-abuse and um cruelty
like and I I would say thecruelty I've bestowed upon
myself was far worse than any ofthe abuse I ever endured, and
that was um a hard, a harderthing to shift because it was
inside of my own head.
But that, I would say, is areally powerful journey.
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That like self-abuser part thatthey don't even know it's there
because it's so just in thebackground of their mind all of
the time, stopping them fromseeing their unique genius.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Exactly.
But that's when I also startedloving and appreciating life and
every situation that crosses mypath.
Because then I know now clearlyand it's so powerful to
remember this that everything isreally truly a reflection of
how I'm doing with myself.
Because when I wasn't doing itmyself, I had people telling me
on my face, you're ugly, I don'twant to be with you, blah, blah
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, blah.
But it's because they weretelling me how I was looking at
myself, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Are you saying that was when you were dating?
Yeah, I love that perspective.
That was what I experienceddating.
People would literally tell meyou're so hideous, why would I
go out with you?
And I mean to be fair, I feltgross.
So I could see that I wasexuding that and then would
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attract people who proved ittrue, Exactly.
So it was really interestingthe inner work I had to do to
not attract that anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, which is the part that we forget that it's
important to have thatreflection so we know how we're
doing with ourselves, because ifI don't have that reflection, I
don't know how I'm doing withmyself.
But again, the part that weforget, that is our reflection.
It's not that that personreally truly believes that I'm
ugly and that's it.
That's a fact.
You're ugly.
No, it's the fact that it's areflection of how I'm looking at
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myself and that reflection isliterally telling me on my face,
physically you're ugly, butit's because I believe that I'm
the only one who believes thatand if I don't, you know, just
on the topic of beauty, I thinkthat I have met some of the most
beautiful people who were so Idon't want to say ugly inside,
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but just cruel and not kind.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
And then when you get to know them at the essence of
how they choose to show up inthe world, you're like, wow,
you're not beautiful.
The way that I respect beautyBecause I respect beauty in a
whole new way heading into 50than I did heading into my 20s,
I don't know, but I see it verydifferent- yes, and once you
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start appreciating lovingyourself so much, you you also.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
your intuition somehow is connected to it too,
because then you love someyourself so much you can see
beyond what is, in a sense, thatyou feel.
Other people's energies andtrue colors, like people like to
say, is it a true color, thevibe.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You get the vibe right Like.
I'm like like, now that I'm inlike really an intuition, um,
and just let it kind of guide mylife, I'm like, no, I don't
like your vibe, I don't want tobe around you.
I don't care who you are like.
If I don't like your vibe, I'mlike it's.
It's, that is, energeticalignment for me is almost
everything now, so it'sdifferent, like than living
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other way.
I don't know, I can't imaginegoing back.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I think, because we have come to understand the
power of that love towardsourselves, that anything that
doesn't reflect that or tries toreflect that we know is not
true, so it's not.
It's just almost evenimpossible to be around that
people Not that they arehorrible in my perspective.
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It's just that they don'treflect who I am anymore, yeah,
and that they're going through alot, and I learned how to see
the beauty thanks to that lovingmyself.
I learned how to loveeverything that crosses my path,
or everything in general.
The same reason, I guessbecause my intuition heightened
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so much and I was able to nowopen the door of connecting with
spirits, feeling automatic,writing just a whole new door
opened.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Oh, I love it.
So let me ask you a little bitabout that, because I would say
my personal journey withintuition was also going through
that dark night of the soul, soto speak, and I realized how
disconnected I was fromintuition and like the like who
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I really am, outside of thehuman meat suit, but like my
soul, right, like who I am.
And that has been the journeysince COVID for me was awakening
to my intuition.
And I talked to a lot of otherwomen who are like oh, I'm
curious about intuition but Idon't know what that means, and
I'm like, oh my gosh, it's ajourney depending on how much
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you don't really like yourself,but like, but intuitive living
is like magical and beautiful.
And can you share a little bitabout, maybe, some of what your
process is with intuition?
Or did you have a great teacherthat you came across that you
really valued, who helped youunderstand intuition?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
It was the spirits themselves.
They were the ones that taughtme so much about life, uh, but
it was because, since I was verylittle, we all go through this
situation.
When we're little and our mindis not so closed up with blah,
blah, blah kind of thing, uh,we're pure.
The spirit doesn't?
Um, we can see here, haveexperiences that don't have any
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explanation, but it's the adultsthat tells us oh, that's crazy,
forget about that, and lifeitself removes us from that, for
who we from, who we really are.
So when I was little, I willfeel presences, I will feel
touch, actual touch, when I wasby myself, and it was the
scariest thing.
But I had a lot of sleepparalysis too.
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But it wasn't until I came hereto Oregon first again and loved
myself so much that I startednoticing the pattern from when I
was little coming back again.
So that voice that I would hearwhen I was little, it was
stronger.
That we call intuition, yeah,and so I started being curious
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about it.
So I started reading about um,uh, automatic writing, um, ouija
, words, uh, spirits andout-of-body experiences, sleep
paralysis because I wanted tounderstand what I was going
through when I was little.
Yeah, one that it put in all myattention on it.
You know what happens when youput your attention on something.
It's just it's everywhere.
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It's actually not everywhere,yeah, so the spirits is like
they were all rushing in andthey were just talking to me
constantly and my dreams wakingme up in the middle of the night
.
It's just a lot of a lot of uhnoise.
There's like kind of exam, it'slike oh, finally you're back,
let's talk about this.
Finally, you're back.
Let's talk about this.
Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about this.
Let's talk about that.
How about?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
this I can relate.
I teach how to work withspirits and like it's noisy
sometimes.
Sometimes I'm like get out,just all of you leave.
I need a moment.
I'm going to take a showerwithout you here.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Exactly and, just like you said, you have a lot of
little notebooks with writing.
You know the people or thethings that you were mentioning
earlier.
Tons of little notes, littlenotebooks with their messages, a
lot of automatic writings.
But they were constantlyreminded of the most powerful
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tool that we have in life andthe only thing that is truly
real is love, that simple love.
So that's why it makes sensethat loving yourself first.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
It opens up all these things.
So true, and I would say mostof the people who I've worked
with, they have the definitionof love and fear is backwards
for them.
And that's like the first thingwe have to do is establish,
like, what is love and fear isbackwards for them.
And that's like the first thingwe have to do is establish like
what is love and what is fear,because they get especially if
you grew up in an abusive homelike they get crossed and so you
think love is fear and fear islove.
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And the mingling of that lie islike for me was the first step
and that was probably thehardest because it was like it
was all lies Love isn't anything.
The hardest because it was likeit was all lies love isn't
anything.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
What I thought it was like that yeah, and it's
interesting because, again, evenmy daughter she had a not fun
experience.
That's why I tried to how to.
That's why, again, going backto this, I tried to pay
attention to the words that I'musing, because it's part of it
as well.
So my daughter didn't have a uhkind of a traumatic experience
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for her, for sure, but eventhough it was traumatic, this
person was molding her tobelieve that that was love yeah,
and they waited, oh, when shewas small she was like from the
age of three to the age of seven.
There's like hurting her which Ididn't know, but it was her but
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always making sure that sheknew that was love.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
No, I grew up with abuse, so it's hard because the
amount of grooming that goesinto children and then
untangling it later is hard, andthat's kind of why I started
doing what I do, because I waslike there's got to be a faster
way to get people to rewiretheir unconscious mind, get
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people to rewire theirunconscious mind because it's um
, so the amount of controlthat's exuded over children who
who go through that, and thepain across the entire web of
family is unbelievable and, um,that's part of my mission is to
stop that.
So, um, but yeah, that'spowerful and I'm sorry you guys
went through that, you ladieswent through that.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
That's hard yeah, it's just, but again it's.
I learned with the help againwith this place like there's
just experiences and but thatthe experiences that are the
ones that are not so easy arethe ones that are the most
powerful ones, as crazy as itmight sound, because it's thanks
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to all those experiences themost painful ones for me and
even my daughter were the onesthat made us realize something
even greater.
Yeah, we opened even a biggerdoor.
Yeah, it's true, and I knowit's not easy when you're going
through those experiences, but Ilearned to that.
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Now, let's put it this way Now,when I'm going through an
experience where it's not easyat all and I, I cry, I can feel
the the all of the emotions.
Right, I'm still telling myselfthis too is for a good reason,
because I know it is for a goodreason.
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And if we think about it, it'slike if we uh, listen to other
people, or how many times youpersonally have said like I'm so
glad that that person broke upwith me, because look where I am
right now.
I wouldn't have met this.
I'm so glad that I was fired ofthat job because look where I
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am right now.
I'm doing so much better.
But we usually wait one year,five years, 10 years to say that
and to experience that, andbecause of that same experience
then I'm like no, I'm going tochoose to say now I'm crying and
I'm feeling the pain.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I can't believe I'm crying, but I know it's for a
good reason.
I know it's for a good reason.
I know it's for a good reason,I know.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I just know it's for a good reason.
It has to be for a good reason,there's nothing else.
And I was still bawling,feeling the pain, and, sure
enough, it's like the next day.
That reason is there.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, I would say that's the powerful, I think,
thing of having experience inlife is that, like when it feels
like things are falling apart.
Sometimes it's everythingfalling together and it's like
everything that you've beenworking towards or manifesting
or asking for, and it could havebeen a younger version of you.
It's like finally manifestingand it feels like a death
because like part of you needsto evolve and so you know the
old wound has to to die.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So, yeah, and that's why it hurts, because it's like
we're so used to that, we're socomfortable with it.
It becomes us.
You know.
It's like yeah, but but yeahagain.
When you start loving yourselfand I guess maybe that's part of
the fear too, because when youstart loving yourself, the heck
out of you like literally peoplewill disappear people all the
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time.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I'm like, if you have self-worth, know your values
and you have boundaries, abusivepeople are going to walk right
by you because you're notappealing to them, period.
They're just not.
They're not interested in you.
So that's, that's how we stopabuse.
You know, that's really how youstart and that's how you stop
it.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
You're so comfortable with it, You're so used to it
it's your only.
That has been your life for solong that letting go of that is
scary go of.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That is scary and so scary.
It's like jumping out of anairplane without a parachute and
like some invisible boy voicesaying, hey, it's brighter down
here, you'll be fine jump.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
You're like floating going literally yeah, you
couldn't have said it better,but it's literally so.
But but what I tell people whenthat happens is like, look, we
have choices.
It's still our choice to gothere or not go there.
At the end we're going to be atthe same place, so don't worry
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about it, it's just anexperience.
But the way I see it is likethere is an easy way to do
things and an easier way to dothings.
So if you choose the easy path,at the beginning it's easy, but
in the long run it's really notthat easy, right?
But if you choose the path,it's like it's not gonna be easy
at the beginning, but in thelong run, oh my god, it's so
(28:38):
worth it and it's so easy andit's so much fun and it's just
like oh, that is what my spiritteam tells me all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
They're like don't you remember when things were
bad?
And I'm like it feels like thatnow.
They're like no, you used to beso mean to yourself.
Now you've got nice voices inyour head and I'm like that's
true actually.
So tell me how you bring thisgift into the world.
(29:06):
Tell me a little bit about yourbusiness and like where people
can find you.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Thank you.
Well, once everything, I sawthat the power was in my hands.
I just wanted to share thatpower with the entire world.
So that's why I started reading, experimenting on everything.
That's why I started reading,experimenting on everything, and
I discovered the soundbite, thevibration, tuning forks and,
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again, connecting with yourheart.
Hard math.
There's so many tools and allof them work.
All of them work.
Just have to choose one andthen dedicate your time in life
to that and it will work.
So, but I with soundbite.
What I like about soundbar isthat it's pure vibration,
frequency, perfect vibration,perfect frequency.
More balance, more attune, andputting that in someone's body
(29:57):
by law, it will change thatfrequency of the body, it will
attune it, it will align it.
You don't have any other option.
You know you'll just do it.
Um, and I like it becausepeople don't have to really
believe in it, you don't have tothink too much about it, you
don't have to do anything other.
Okay, relax and let this soundaffect you in a molecular level,
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and then the body itself, assmart as and beautiful as it is
and it loves us so much that itwill start doing its thing and
it will help you bring emotionsout or do what you're supposed
to be doing at this moment, umyeah, I'm a big believer in
sound baths.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I um, I always play sound frequencies in my clinic.
I'm always clearing energy, butI like just leave the sound
healing on in the background allof the time.
It's like, oh, it's like ahelper that's just taking care
of all the denseness, I don'thave to think about it yes, yeah
, you don't have to worry aboutI think about it or nothing.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's just let it be and then it does its thing.
So that's why I love it.
And, um, um, well, I have mywebsite balancing a loving life
and all different.
There's tons of informationthere, for sure, even stories of
more magic, because, again,once you start loving yourself,
the magic starts and it seemslike the more you love yourself,
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it continues and it's justshowering on opportunity.
Magic, magic, magic, magic,magic.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I couldn't agree more .
I think that, like, more peopleneed magic back in their lives
and the lack of self-love is thething that, like, really kills
it.
So which you know, if we're alllike evolving into a new state
of consciousness and onenesswith one another, then loving
yourself as part of thatcollective is part of it,
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because you can't expect someoneelse to love you enough to ever
feel valid of it, and it has tocome from within first.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
It doesn't work and that's why I didn't have friends
that do everything possible toplease and make other people
happy but they get frustratedbecause it doesn't work.
They will only just show that,they will only reflect the
frustration that you have, thatthey are not happy, but they can
never be happy because you'reanother one happy.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I like I talked about this with a lot of people about
how those unconscious,codependent strategies of if I
make you happy enough, I'llfinally feel worthy those are
very destructive in allrelationships, especially the
relationship that you have withyour intuition, because it's
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like I will only do this becauseI'm looking for something in
return.
People are, they know that theycan feel that unconscious
agenda and it it's not.
It's not unconditional love,exactly.
Yeah, you can feel thedifference.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
There's a big difference and when I started
the conversation that in thepast I will give to get
something in return Right.
But now that I know it's withinme and I can give and I give
myself everything that I desireand deserve and all that and it
comes to me.
If I love myself, I give somuch more, like I do a lot more,
but I don't need you to tell meanything or do anything.
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It just really comes from myheart.
It makes me happy and if youwant to hate me after that, okay
, that's your path.
I'm still happy that I did it,you know, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I love that.
Okay, I'm going to put yourlinks down below in the show
notes and that way they can findyou.
If anyone is interested inworking with you, really quickly
just tell me what a sessionwith you looks like like in like
a quick, the quick and dirtyversion.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Okay, that's right, I will ask to send an intention
to put it out there.
And then you come to me, wework with the tuning forks and
singing balls all around your uhbody and your energy field, and
then whatever happens willhappen, and but usually a lot of
people, after feeling what theyneed to feel, the intention
actually comes to them just likethat too nice, I love that.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
So you're basically waking them up to their own
genius.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yes, going back to themselves.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Excellent, I love it.
All right.
So, judith, I just really wantto thank you for coming on today
, and I appreciate it.
I'm going to put a link to yourwebsite If you could remind me
what it is, just in casesomeone's listening and they
want to jot it down.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yes, balancing at lovinglifecom.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Nice, perfect.
And Judith, are you in Tigard,Portland?
Where is your office located ordo you travel?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Downtown Portland and I do group sessions and I
travel too.
It's easy, excellent.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Okay, do you do online visits as well, or is it
mostly in person?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I haven't done online it's mostly in person.
I feel like it's more powerfuland you can connect with it,
with a person.
So.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yes, in the world of Zoom, a lot of people are doing
interesting things on Zoom, Imean.
So it's.
It was just I was just curious,so it's in person.
That's excellent.
I'm going to go ahead and put alink to your website and I just
really want to thank you fortaking the time to come on today
and sharing your beautifulstory.
I really love capturing theessence of transformation for
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people and showing them thatit's very possible, and hearing
other people's journeys andstories about how they did it I
think really inspires people togo and look at their own journey
of transformation and also notto be so afraid of intuition.
I mean, some people are veryafraid of their own intuition
and gifts and I think that islike midlife, when it's the dark
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night of the soul, where it'slike, no, your intuition is
coming back.
It's not anxiety or menopause,it's like this is your intuition
trying to break through.
So that's fine.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I know.
Thank you for having me over.
I love this.
I love this.
It was fun.
We should do it again.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Definitely.
Thank you so much, and thankyou to all of my listeners for
tuning in today, and I hope youcheck out Judith's work.
She's a very amazing healer anda very kind and lovely human
being.
So have a wonderful day and Iwill talk to you next time.
Hello and welcome.
I am so excited to have thelovely Judith Cunningham as a
guest today.
She is a life, spiritual andsound healing coach and also an
author of Power Thesaurus,Creating a Greater Way of
Communication.
Through sound baths, breathworkand heart-centered techniques,
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she helps people experience deeptransformation, whether it's
releasing emotions, shiftingperspectives or reconnecting
with their true selves.
Her work goes beyond relaxation, guiding others to align with
their heart and embrace healingon all levels.
Welcome, Judith, I'm so happyto have you here today, Thank
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you.
Thank you, Tabatha.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I really appreciate it.
I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Judith and I met through BNI, which is a
networking group, and we're bothpart of the wellness team, and
when I started thinking abouthow I wanted to move the podcast
forward, I really wanted to getthe stories of everyday heroes,
and I think everyday heroes, inmy opinion, are people who have
overcome something great andnow help others do the same, and
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so that's the focus of our talktoday, and I'm really excited
to hear more about how you gotinto what you do.
But let me ask you, what waslife like before your healing
journey began?
Like what was it that was thecatalyst for change?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
it's.
It's funny to remember thosemoments because I used to be
like very quiet, shy, I wouldnot talk to people.
I will for years, for years, Iwalk with my head down because I
didn't want to, um, I didn'twant people to see me or to talk
to me or anything but uh withlife.
What I noticed is like the moreI did that, the more I was
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creating a barrier and even withthat barrier was blaming
everyone else instead of lookingwithin right and it was just
making that world bigger andbigger and still judging others,
being mad at others, and it'stheir fault, it's all their
fault.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Now victim consciousness is sneaky because
it sounds so real.
I mean, I used to becodependent and I have journals
of other people's fault likejust journals, and it was like I
never considered myself someonewho did that.
And then, looking back, I'mlike who, who is this?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It was interesting because, um, I feel like those
are the things that they shouldteach at school, in essence.
So I didn't know that I was init, I didn't know that that was
my fault.
Everything that was happeningin my life it was because of my
way of thinking, my perspectiveand all that.
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And I was going through a lotof different situations, very
painful situations, so many thatthey accumulated, accumulated
so many, that finally, onetriggered me the most, and it
was like when I moved to Oregonand I was like it was a person
that I felt like again blaminghim.
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You hurt me so much, why can'tyou love me?
I know I'm a good person, blahblah, blah blah, but then, okay,
we'll stay there for a second.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
yes, yes, I've heard myself and my clients say that
like so many times, because I doa lot of work with people
around heartbreak and um that,that sentence why couldn't you
love me?
What made you open yourself upto that like conversation with
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yourself?
And it was that the like momentyou decided to look inside?
Or was it cause that's apowerful statement that I think
a lot of people with you knowanxious attachment styles or you
know those kind of like othertypes of attachment styles that
are not aligned with secureattachment styles.
I don't know how much you knowabout that, but those are
sentence that runs around in ourhead a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
A lot, but it wasn't again.
It was because of this guy.
I was so attached to thisperson and I felt like I gave
everything of me my home, money,car, everything hoping that by
being that way, that personwould love me.
But after a year of doing allthat, I asked this person hey,
so how do you feel about me?
And their answer was like oh no, it's like what the heck like,
(04:28):
after everything I've beengiving and done, it's like so it
hurts so much.
But at the same time, it was atthat moment that I had two
voices, very loud one and youknow, when you have the two
angels right here, one is theangel and demon, not two angels.
I'm familiar, yeah.
But this was like oh, come on,well, you're having fun with it,
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just stay, At least you havesomeone.
I mean, you don't have to beloved, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, but I will feel the painand I will look for him.
And the fear factor is like oh,okay, fine, I want to stay with
this person, no matter what.
But the other voice, which Iknew, was my heart.
Literally my heart was like youknow, this is not right for you
.
You know, this is not theperson for you.
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You know you're not happy, butit was so strong that it would
give me the strength to break itup.
Okay, I'm done.
Yeah, I know my power.
But then this voice got loudertoo, no, but look at you.
And I did break up with himlike six times and until the
sixth time he was annoyed by itand blocked me on everything and
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that caused so much pain, likeextreme pain.
Those two voices kind of gotquiet and it just brought me
back to me, in a sense, the painthat I was feeling.
But I remember sitting um bymyself just thinking about that,
feeling the pain.
But also, again, that questionis like what, what is it that I
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need to do or be in order to beloved?
And there was no answer.
But then then I was like, waita minute, that person did the
same, that person did this.
That person did this thatperson.
All my relations have been thesame and if they all have been
the same, they were differentpeople, they were not all the
same, but they have the samefactor.
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That was me, it's like.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Oh, so it's's me, it has to be me I love that because
we do something in um coachingand I don't know what your
process is, but it's called theunconscious pattern and it's
like you can look at anyfailures in your life and
there's a pattern or a programthat's the same in all of them
and it doesn't matter if it'slike across relationships or
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money or success.
There's an unconscious patternthat like weaves into all of
them yeah, it's very interestinghow we are not aware.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Again, those are the things that they should teach us
in life, you know, I agree.
So I remember sitting there andit was like, okay, wait a
minute, wait a minute.
So if it's me, how would I feel?
Let's pretend that I'm sittingin front of myself.
How would I feel about myself?
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And I was like, holy moly, Ihate looking at myself in the
mirror.
I look down.
I don't talk with people.
I've always put in a barrier.
It's like I don't love myself,and if I don't love myself, how
do I expect anyone else to loveme?
It's like, oh my God.
It's like we know those thingsbut at the same time, we don't
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really grasp them.
I guess.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It's interesting because I think there's a huge
movement for self love.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
But I don't think people understand it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I don't think they really understand what the
journey looks like.
It is a hero's journey, thatprocess of loving yourself, and
that is.
It is an interesting one, notone I was expecting to go on,
but yeah it's, it's a bravejourney.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It is because once I had that realization, I broke
into tears.
It was even more painful torealize that all this time I was
expecting someone to dosomething for me and to show me
that love, that acceptance.
That's why I was giving so muchto hope for something, and I
never got anything.
Or maybe I got it, but I was soclose off that I wouldn't even
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see it, I wouldn't even noticeit, which that's true too.
So I was crying now because itwas a huge realization, but also
okay, what do I do now?
How do I love myself?
What does that look like?
We're not here to there now,you know.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
How did you?
What was the, what was theprocess that you followed?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
so I remember someone says, like I have, if I could
look at something beautifulabout myself and little by
little will start believing it,then at some point I will see it
.
So since I hated looking atmyself in the mirror, um, I will
go.
I decided I made it a purposeto find or see something
beautiful in me, whatever it was.
So I will go to the bathroomand I looked at my eyes and the
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light was reflecting on my eyesso they look bright and I
believed it.
I could see that like, oh, myeyes are bright, I mean, that's
it.
I would not look at myself forthe entire day in the mirror so
I wouldn't go oh my god, butlook at me, how ugly.
Like all that shattering thatwe do to ourselves, especially
we women.
But I discovered men do thattoo a lot they don't they do for
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that same reason.
Um, so I decided to do that, butI was consistent.
I know that now, uh, repetitionis important.
Consistent every day, you knowday.
So every day I was doing thesame oh, my eyes are right.
Oh, my eyes are right, and Icould see it Again.
It was easy to believe, but Iknew it was the light, not me.
But it was another two weeksthat I got up, I went to the
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bathroom and I was just going todo the same routine.
But when I looked at myself inthe mirror for first time, I saw
who I really was my, my, myskin was shining and my cheeks
were kind of pinkish and my eyeswere brighter, not because of
the lights, even though thelight was still there, but with
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just a natural brightness inthem.
And I cried again because I waslike I was so beautiful, yeah,
no, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I'm so glad you said that because you are beautiful
and it's um, you know it'spowerful to say it out loud
because it takes time to say itfrom a place of genuine
authenticity like the.
The holistic beauty is is what,you know, I think about when I
think about beauty.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yes, it is.
It comes from within.
It is true that when they tellyou, go within, go within,
there's a thing within that youcan feel.
You can really feel it, andit's so powerful that it just
radiates out, you know.
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Again, going back to theimportance of if you want to
change the world here, likeliterally right here.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh my gosh, isn't that the truth?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
yes, yes.
And it was so powerful because,again, I cried and I could see
it.
It's like I couldn't believe atthe same time that it was that
easy.
It's like it is easy like, butit wasn't easy.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
You had to do it for two weeks and like, look at
yourself, like and run away, soit wasn't easy once you get
there, it's like no freaking way.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh, the power is in my hand, it's in me.
So I said it that every time Itook showers or putting lotion
on me, I was like I love you,like I literally feel I love you
, love you, love you.
And every time, uh, I rememberthe first time I went outside I
had to go to a class andfreaking people were stopping me
on the streets like I'm sorry,I don't want to scare you, but
it's like I just had to tell youyou have a glow around you it's
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true, because it's all energyand like when you have a
negative thought loop in yourhead, you're creating a negative
field around you and it almostlike attracts more negativity.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
And then you start like loving who you are and
accepting it and just shininglight and love.
Wherever you go, people do stopyou.
They're like you look different, did something happen and it's
like, yeah, I decided to lovemyself a little bit, like I mean
, it's contagious.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It is, it is so it was.
It was very powerful, verybeautiful for me to do that.
I put a mirror at the entranceon my, on my um apartment at
that time and every time I willgo out on it, it's like but this
time I will feel it.
It hasn't stopped, it hasn'tstopped.
But once I shifted that, notonly I looked different, I felt
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different, I thought different,you know, and once I did that,
my whole reality changed.
People that I was encounteringor meeting situations,
everything was just likeskyrocketing, pretty much Like
everything is getting better andbetter and better and better
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and better.
It's like, wow, this is like sopowerful.
And to me, again, theimportance of helping people to
go back to their hearts, toloving themselves.
Yeah, and it's a cool book.
I don't remember now I shouldhave looked at them Love
yourself like your life, lifeDepending On it.
That's the title of the book.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Oh, cool, nice.
Okay, I'll find it and put alink in the show notes.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
This is such a again after that experience.
I'm not the only one.
We all have gone through thatand we know within us that if we
don't love ourselves, life isnot that easy.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
It's not.
It's not easy because it's fullof self-abuse and um cruelty
like and I I would say thecruelty I've bestowed upon
myself was far worse than any ofthe abuse I ever endured, and
that was um a hard, a harderthing to shift because it was
inside of my own head.
But that, I would say, is areally powerful journey.
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That like self-abuser part thatthey don't even know it's there
because it's so just in thebackground of their mind all of
the time, stopping them fromseeing their unique genius.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Exactly.
But that's when I also startedloving and appreciating life and
every situation that crosses mypath.
Because then I know now clearlyand it's so powerful to
remember this that everything isreally truly a reflection of
how I'm doing with myself.
Because when I wasn't doing itmyself, I had people telling me
on my face, you're ugly, I don'twant to be with you, blah, blah
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, blah.
But it's because they weretelling me how I was looking at
myself, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Are you saying that was when you were dating?
Yeah, I love that perspective.
That was what I experienceddating.
People would literally tell meyou're so hideous, why would I
go out with you?
And I mean to be fair, I feltgross.
So I could see that I wasexuding that and then would
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attract people who proved ittrue, Exactly.
So it was really interestingthe inner work I had to do to
not attract that anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, which is the part that we forget that it's
important to have thatreflection so we know how we're
doing with ourselves, because ifI don't have that reflection, I
don't know how I'm doing withmyself.
But again, the part that weforget, that is our reflection.
It's not that that personreally truly believes that I'm
ugly and that's it.
That's a fact.
You're ugly.
No, it's the fact that it's areflection of how I'm looking at
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myself and that reflection isliterally telling me on my face,
physically you're ugly, butit's because I believe that I'm
the only one who believes thatand if I don't, you know, just
on the topic of beauty, I thinkthat I have met some of the most
beautiful people who were so Idon't want to say ugly inside,
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but just cruel and not kind.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
And then when you get to know them at the essence of
how they choose to show up inthe world, you're like, wow,
you're not beautiful.
The way that I respect beautyBecause I respect beauty in a
whole new way heading into 50than I did heading into my 20s,
I don't know, but I see it verydifferent- yes, and once you
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start appreciating lovingyourself so much, you you also.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
your intuition somehow is connected to it too,
because then you love someyourself so much you can see
beyond what is, in a sense, thatyou feel.
Other people's energies andtrue colors, like people like to
say, is it a true color, thevibe.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You get the vibe right Like.
I'm like like, now that I'm inlike really an intuition, um,
and just let it kind of guide mylife, I'm like, no, I don't
like your vibe, I don't want tobe around you.
I don't care who you are like.
If I don't like your vibe, I'mlike it's.
It's, that is, energeticalignment for me is almost
everything now, so it'sdifferent, like than living
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other way.
I don't know, I can't imaginegoing back.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I think, because we have come to understand the
power of that love towardsourselves, that anything that
doesn't reflect that or tries toreflect that we know is not
true, so it's not.
It's just almost evenimpossible to be around that
people Not that they arehorrible in my perspective.
(17:53):
It's just that they don'treflect who I am anymore, yeah,
and that they're going through alot, and I learned how to see
the beauty thanks to that lovingmyself.
I learned how to loveeverything that crosses my path,
or everything in general.
The same reason, I guessbecause my intuition heightened
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so much and I was able to nowopen the door of connecting with
spirits, feeling automatic,writing just a whole new door
opened.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Oh, I love it.
So let me ask you a little bitabout that, because I would say
my personal journey withintuition was also going through
that dark night of the soul, soto speak, and I realized how
disconnected I was fromintuition and like the like who
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I really am, outside of thehuman meat suit, but like my
soul, right, like who I am.
And that has been the journeysince COVID for me was awakening
to my intuition.
And I talked to a lot of otherwomen who are like oh, I'm
curious about intuition but Idon't know what that means, and
I'm like, oh my gosh, it's ajourney depending on how much
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you don't really like yourself,but like, but intuitive living
is like magical and beautiful.
And can you share a little bitabout, maybe, some of what your
process is with intuition?
Or did you have a great teacherthat you came across that you
really valued, who helped youunderstand intuition?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
It was the spirits themselves.
They were the ones that taughtme so much about life, uh, but
it was because, since I was verylittle, we all go through this
situation.
When we're little and our mindis not so closed up with blah,
blah, blah kind of thing, uh,we're pure.
The spirit doesn't?
Um, we can see here, haveexperiences that don't have any
(19:48):
explanation, but it's the adultsthat tells us oh, that's crazy,
forget about that, and lifeitself removes us from that, for
who we from, who we really are.
So when I was little, I willfeel presences, I will feel
touch, actual touch, when I wasby myself, and it was the
scariest thing.
But I had a lot of sleepparalysis too.
(20:09):
But it wasn't until I came hereto Oregon first again and loved
myself so much that I startednoticing the pattern from when I
was little coming back again.
So that voice that I would hearwhen I was little, it was
stronger.
That we call intuition, yeah,and so I started being curious
(20:32):
about it.
So I started reading about um,uh, automatic writing, um, ouija
, words, uh, spirits andout-of-body experiences, sleep
paralysis because I wanted tounderstand what I was going
through when I was little.
Yeah, one that it put in all myattention on it.
You know what happens when youput your attention on something.
It's just it's everywhere.
(20:52):
It's actually not everywhere,yeah, so the spirits is like
they were all rushing in andthey were just talking to me
constantly and my dreams wakingme up in the middle of the night
.
It's just a lot of a lot of uhnoise.
There's like kind of exam, it'slike oh, finally you're back,
let's talk about this.
Finally, you're back.
Let's talk about this.
Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about this.
Let's talk about that.
How about?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
this I can relate.
I teach how to work withspirits and like it's noisy
sometimes.
Sometimes I'm like get out,just all of you leave.
I need a moment.
I'm going to take a showerwithout you here.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Exactly and, just like you said, you have a lot of
little notebooks with writing.
You know the people or thethings that you were mentioning
earlier.
Tons of little notes, littlenotebooks with their messages, a
lot of automatic writings.
But they were constantlyreminded of the most powerful
(21:49):
tool that we have in life andthe only thing that is truly
real is love, that simple love.
So that's why it makes sensethat loving yourself first.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
It opens up all these things.
So true, and I would say mostof the people who I've worked
with, they have the definitionof love and fear is backwards
for them.
And that's like the first thingwe have to do is establish,
like, what is love and fear isbackwards for them.
And that's like the first thingwe have to do is establish like
what is love and what is fear,because they get especially if
you grew up in an abusive homelike they get crossed and so you
think love is fear and fear islove.
(22:21):
And the mingling of that lie islike for me was the first step
and that was probably thehardest because it was like it
was all lies Love isn't anything.
The hardest because it was likeit was all lies love isn't
anything.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
What I thought it was like that yeah, and it's
interesting because, again, evenmy daughter she had a not fun
experience.
That's why I tried to how to.
That's why, again, going backto this, I tried to pay
attention to the words that I'musing, because it's part of it
as well.
So my daughter didn't have a uhkind of a traumatic experience
(22:56):
for her, for sure, but eventhough it was traumatic, this
person was molding her tobelieve that that was love yeah,
and they waited, oh, when shewas small she was like from the
age of three to the age of seven.
There's like hurting her which Ididn't know, but it was her but
(23:19):
always making sure that sheknew that was love.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
No, I grew up with abuse, so it's hard because the
amount of grooming that goesinto children and then
untangling it later is hard, andthat's kind of why I started
doing what I do, because I waslike there's got to be a faster
way to get people to rewiretheir unconscious mind, get
(23:53):
people to rewire theirunconscious mind because it's um
, so the amount of controlthat's exuded over children who
who go through that, and thepain across the entire web of
family is unbelievable and, um,that's part of my mission is to
stop that.
So, um, but yeah, that'spowerful and I'm sorry you guys
went through that, you ladieswent through that.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
That's hard yeah, it's just, but again it's.
I learned with the help againwith this place like there's
just experiences and but thatthe experiences that are the
ones that are not so easy arethe ones that are the most
powerful ones, as crazy as itmight sound, because it's thanks
(24:34):
to all those experiences themost painful ones for me and
even my daughter were the onesthat made us realize something
even greater.
Yeah, we opened even a biggerdoor.
Yeah, it's true, and I knowit's not easy when you're going
through those experiences, but Ilearned to that.
(24:55):
Now, let's put it this way Now,when I'm going through an
experience where it's not easyat all and I, I cry, I can feel
the the all of the emotions.
Right, I'm still telling myselfthis too is for a good reason,
because I know it is for a goodreason.
(25:17):
And if we think about it, it'slike if we uh, listen to other
people, or how many times youpersonally have said like I'm so
glad that that person broke upwith me, because look where I am
right now.
I wouldn't have met this.
I'm so glad that I was fired ofthat job because look where I
(25:38):
am right now.
I'm doing so much better.
But we usually wait one year,five years, 10 years to say that
and to experience that, andbecause of that same experience
then I'm like no, I'm going tochoose to say now I'm crying and
I'm feeling the pain.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I can't believe I'm crying, but I know it's for a
good reason.
I know it's for a good reason.
I know it's for a good reason,I know.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I just know it's for a good reason.
It has to be for a good reason,there's nothing else.
And I was still bawling,feeling the pain, and, sure
enough, it's like the next day.
That reason is there.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, I would say that's the powerful, I think,
thing of having experience inlife is that, like when it feels
like things are falling apart.
Sometimes it's everythingfalling together and it's like
everything that you've beenworking towards or manifesting
or asking for, and it could havebeen a younger version of you.
It's like finally manifestingand it feels like a death
because like part of you needsto evolve and so you know the
old wound has to to die.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So, yeah, and that's why it hurts, because it's like
we're so used to that, we're socomfortable with it.
It becomes us.
You know.
It's like yeah, but but yeahagain.
When you start loving yourselfand I guess maybe that's part of
the fear too, because when youstart loving yourself, the heck
out of you like literally peoplewill disappear people all the
(27:11):
time.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I'm like, if you have self-worth, know your values
and you have boundaries, abusivepeople are going to walk right
by you because you're notappealing to them, period.
They're just not.
They're not interested in you.
So that's, that's how we stopabuse.
You know, that's really how youstart and that's how you stop
it.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
You're so comfortable with it, You're so used to it
it's your only.
That has been your life for solong that letting go of that is
scary go of.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That is scary and so scary.
It's like jumping out of anairplane without a parachute and
like some invisible boy voicesaying, hey, it's brighter down
here, you'll be fine jump.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
You're like floating going literally yeah, you
couldn't have said it better,but it's literally so.
But but what I tell people whenthat happens is like, look, we
have choices.
It's still our choice to gothere or not go there.
At the end we're going to be atthe same place, so don't worry
(28:14):
about it, it's just anexperience.
But the way I see it is likethere is an easy way to do
things and an easier way to dothings.
So if you choose the easy path,at the beginning it's easy, but
in the long run it's really notthat easy, right?
But if you choose the path,it's like it's not gonna be easy
at the beginning, but in thelong run, oh my god, it's so
(28:38):
worth it and it's so easy andit's so much fun and it's just
like oh, that is what my spiritteam tells me all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
They're like don't you remember when things were
bad?
And I'm like it feels like thatnow.
They're like no, you used to beso mean to yourself.
Now you've got nice voices inyour head and I'm like that's
true actually.
So tell me how you bring thisgift into the world.
(29:06):
Tell me a little bit about yourbusiness and like where people
can find you.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Thank you.
Well, once everything, I sawthat the power was in my hands.
I just wanted to share thatpower with the entire world.
So that's why I started reading, experimenting on everything.
That's why I started reading,experimenting on everything, and
I discovered the soundbite, thevibration, tuning forks and,
(29:36):
again, connecting with yourheart.
Hard math.
There's so many tools and allof them work.
All of them work.
Just have to choose one andthen dedicate your time in life
to that and it will work.
So, but I with soundbite.
What I like about soundbar isthat it's pure vibration,
frequency, perfect vibration,perfect frequency.
More balance, more attune, andputting that in someone's body
(29:57):
by law, it will change thatfrequency of the body, it will
attune it, it will align it.
You don't have any other option.
You know you'll just do it.
Um, and I like it becausepeople don't have to really
believe in it, you don't have tothink too much about it, you
don't have to do anything other.
Okay, relax and let this soundaffect you in a molecular level,
(30:19):
and then the body itself, assmart as and beautiful as it is
and it loves us so much that itwill start doing its thing and
it will help you bring emotionsout or do what you're supposed
to be doing at this moment, umyeah, I'm a big believer in
sound baths.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I um, I always play sound frequencies in my clinic.
I'm always clearing energy, butI like just leave the sound
healing on in the background allof the time.
It's like, oh, it's like ahelper that's just taking care
of all the denseness, I don'thave to think about it yes, yeah
, you don't have to worry aboutI think about it or nothing.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's just let it be and then it does its thing.
So that's why I love it.
And, um, um, well, I have mywebsite balancing a loving life
and all different.
There's tons of informationthere, for sure, even stories of
more magic, because, again,once you start loving yourself,
the magic starts and it seemslike the more you love yourself,
(31:13):
it continues and it's justshowering on opportunity.
Magic, magic, magic, magic,magic.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I couldn't agree more .
I think that, like, more peopleneed magic back in their lives
and the lack of self-love is thething that, like, really kills
it.
So which you know, if we're alllike evolving into a new state
of consciousness and onenesswith one another, then loving
yourself as part of thatcollective is part of it,
(31:43):
because you can't expect someoneelse to love you enough to ever
feel valid of it, and it has tocome from within first.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
It doesn't work and that's why I didn't have friends
that do everything possible toplease and make other people
happy but they get frustratedbecause it doesn't work.
They will only just show that,they will only reflect the
frustration that you have, thatthey are not happy, but they can
never be happy because you'reanother one happy.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I like I talked about this with a lot of people about
how those unconscious,codependent strategies of if I
make you happy enough, I'llfinally feel worthy those are
very destructive in allrelationships, especially the
relationship that you have withyour intuition, because it's
(32:31):
like I will only do this becauseI'm looking for something in
return.
People are, they know that theycan feel that unconscious
agenda and it it's not.
It's not unconditional love,exactly.
Yeah, you can feel thedifference.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
There's a big difference and when I started
the conversation that in thepast I will give to get
something in return Right.
But now that I know it's withinme and I can give and I give
myself everything that I desireand deserve and all that and it
comes to me.
If I love myself, I give somuch more, like I do a lot more,
but I don't need you to tell meanything or do anything.
(33:11):
It just really comes from myheart.
It makes me happy and if youwant to hate me after that, okay
, that's your path.
I'm still happy that I did it,you know, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I love that.
Okay, I'm going to put yourlinks down below in the show
notes and that way they can findyou.
If anyone is interested inworking with you, really quickly
just tell me what a sessionwith you looks like like in like
a quick, the quick and dirtyversion.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Okay, that's right, I will ask to send an intention
to put it out there.
And then you come to me, wework with the tuning forks and
singing balls all around your uhbody and your energy field, and
then whatever happens willhappen, and but usually a lot of
people, after feeling what theyneed to feel, the intention
actually comes to them just likethat too nice, I love that.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
So you're basically waking them up to their own
genius.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yes, going back to themselves.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Excellent, I love it.
All right.
So, judith, I just really wantto thank you for coming on today
, and I appreciate it.
I'm going to put a link to yourwebsite If you could remind me
what it is, just in casesomeone's listening and they
want to jot it down.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yes, balancing at lovinglifecom.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Nice, perfect.
And Judith, are you in Tigard,Portland?
Where is your office located ordo you travel?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Downtown Portland and I do group sessions and I
travel too.
It's easy, excellent.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Okay, do you do online visits as well, or is it
mostly in person?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I haven't done online it's mostly in person.
I feel like it's more powerfuland you can connect with it,
with a person.
So.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yes, in the world of Zoom, a lot of people are doing
interesting things on Zoom, Imean.
So it's.
It was just I was just curious,so it's in person.
That's excellent.
I'm going to go ahead and put alink to your website and I just
really want to thank you fortaking the time to come on today
and sharing your beautifulstory.
I really love capturing theessence of transformation for
(35:16):
people and showing them thatit's very possible, and hearing
other people's journeys andstories about how they did it I
think really inspires people togo and look at their own journey
of transformation and also notto be so afraid of intuition.
I mean, some people are veryafraid of their own intuition
and gifts and I think that islike midlife, when it's the dark
(35:38):
night of the soul, where it'slike, no, your intuition is
coming back.
It's not anxiety or menopause,it's like this is your intuition
trying to break through.
So that's fine.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I know.
Thank you for having me over.
I love this.
I love this.
It was fun.
We should do it again.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Definitely.
Thank you so much, and thankyou to all of my listeners for
tuning in today, and I hope youcheck out Judith's work.
She's a very amazing healer anda very kind and lovely human
being.
So have a wonderful day and Iwill talk to you next time.
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