Episode 106 - So Long, Josh, and Thanks for All the Memories - Sounders Scuttlebutt

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He's a tough kid.

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It's Romclapping right now

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The other champion!
The other champion!
The other champion!
The champion!
Hello and welcome to another episode
of Sounders Scuttlebutt.
I'm your host today, Cameron Collins,
and I'm here with my co-host, Nicholas Piela,
the at-large and at-large member

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of the Alliance Council for the Sounders,
also one of the, what are you,
the treasurer for ECSFC,
and a board member for Pub League, ECS Pub League?
That's right, that's right.
All those things, all those things,
and none of those things all at once.
Yes, exactly.
Well, we had to jump on here
because the Sounders have a match tomorrow.

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I'm excited.
Are you excited?
I am, I am very excited.
We'll get more into that first.
I think you have a beer to open.
I do, that would be a great idea.
So let me just kinda crack this up, especially.
There we go.
Especially after this weekend,
I just flew in last night.
I did not sleep last night.
So I am-

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And boy, are your arms tired.
You're not wrong.
Ooh.
That sounds really good. That was a seltzer water.
So tell us about your trip.
Yeah, so thank you.
We got to the high up in the Rockies every year
for President's Day weekend for Pond Hockey Tournament.
They had over 300 teams across multiple divisions.

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Fantastic time.
It's something that I look forward to every year.
We are going on four tournaments straight without a win.
Too much beer, huh?
All the beer.
Well, we are the Seattle Super Chronics.
That is the name of the team.
It is a weed-based themed team with our,

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kinda like the Seattle SuperSonics logo
with some cannabis flavor to them.
But ultimately what it really comes down to
is we just like bringing good vibes to the tournament.
It's just a lot of fun when people go,
oh, good to see you guys again.
We're so excited to play against you.
We love seeing you in there.

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Just really nice.
After 10 years of it, there's only a handful of teams
that have consistently been there under the same team name.
So it's kinda fun.
Interesting that you bring up the Sonics since today.
We're recording Tuesday, February 18th.

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And today during his State of the City address,
our mayor made a joke that he was going to make
an announcement about the Sonics coming back
and then was like, just kidding.
Read the room.
I mean, why, what made you think that was a good idea?
And I think he's getting rightly roasted right now.

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I mean, you heard that crowd response in the video.
They were like, oh my God, is he announcing something?
And the room started roaring.
And then he was like, just kidding.
Yeah, just a strange choice.
Decisions were made.
Yeah, we're of course coming to you on,

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I guess day one, some teams played already,
but day one of the main games
of the CONCACAF Champions Cup.
We have, for our viewing pleasure,
Colorado playing LAFC right now on.
So you'll get our live reaction to any goals there
at a match where, I guess it was seven degrees
when it started, I just heard from Dan Boniface
that is two degrees now at the match.

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So there's not a lot of people there.
I get that.
That's gonna be one of the coldest games in LA.
I mean, it's not league play.
No, but yeah, it's gotta be,
because that is freezing.
And not a lot of people there,
but still, look at those people dancing.
They're like, we gotta stay warm somehow.
So fun stuff, of course, as Sounders fans

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we're rooting for Colorado.
I suppose you are too.
Yeah, I think so.
I think so.
I have no negative towards them right now.
And now I have reason to want Colorado to do well,
which I'm sure we'll talk about in just a little bit.
Spoiler alert. Absolutely.
We'll have some trade talk.

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And I don't know, anything else non-Sounders related?
Because I think we can just jump right into the mailbag,
which is all Sounders related stuff
and fly through this short episode
since we have a match tomorrow.
There'll be less time to listen to it than normal.
I will say, before we get too far,
join our Discord, join our Patreon.
On Discord right now,

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if you go to the Sounder Scudabut channel,
pinned at the top is the CONCACAF YouTube
for tomorrow's Sounders match,
because it is only available on Fox Soccer Plus,
which is not on Xfinity.
So if you have cable, you will not get it.
You can get it through an add-on on Fubu TV.
You can get it through VIX,

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which is a Spanish language streaming service,
or you can find it through Fox Soccer Plus,
which is only on a few places.
So I can't get that, but CONCACAF has their own YouTubes.
So you can watch it there.
The current match that we're watching right now
is in Spanish.
So it'll likely be in Spanish,
so brush up on your Spanish,
but definitely that may be the only way

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that you get to watch the Sounders match tomorrow,
it gets Antigua.
So head on over, join our Discord for Sounder Scudabut
and look in the Sounder Scudabut channel,
because that's where we have the pen shout out
to Alex Diaz for sharing that with us.
Yeah, it's gonna be a good time.
I think it'll be a fun season this year.

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I have a feeling it's gonna be a really good year for us
on the Discord side of things,
looking to see how that evolves.
Yeah, it'll be super fun.
We've got some cool people in there talking Sounders,
and we hope that if you're listening
and you're not active in there, you'll come join too,
because A, you can put stuff in the mailbag
for us to answer, but B, then your voice is heard

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and we're not just hearing one side of things,
everyone has their own opinion.
So it's fun to get involved and get in the discussion.
We're not always involved in all the discussions,
especially if it's something that we're sworn to secrecy on
from the club, we've signed things,
and so we cannot talk about certain things.
However, there are things we can talk about

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once they're public,
and I think that's the number one thing that we got.
So we will definitely hit that.
Just wanna make sure that you have nothing else
you wanna hit before we get to Sounders.
No, no, but with that in mind,
let's definitely make sure that we do talk about reactions
to the kit drop, even though, spoiler alert,

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we're also, after recording this,
we are gonna record a special Patreon-only episode
where we break down all of the kits across all 30 teams.
So I believe that is 32 kits in total
because both Inter Miami and San Diego FC
have two kits this year.

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So that'll be a lot of fun,
but that is going to be just kind of a benefit
to Patreon subscribers to have access to that.
And it's also gonna be a test for,
do you wanna kind of give some news
on what we're gonna test with that?
Yeah, it's gonna hopefully be our first edition
of the show in video, which may or may not be the future.

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I mean, it will be the future of this podcast,
but it's gonna take a little time to get it figured out.
So we actually record most episodes in video,
but maybe aren't the most presentable at times.
So- What are you talking about?
Are you talking about the state of my room?
And my room and how I'm dressing sometimes.
And I mean, didn't I do,
I did a bunch of shows last year, topless.

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You did actually, that is true, that did happen.
So we will do video and hopefully that'll be the first one.
We know it'll have audio no matter what.
So we will be getting these
so you can go watch them on YouTube.
And I think it should be possible
through certain podcasting apps like Pocket Cast,

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which is the one I use,
where you'll be able to watch a video,
at least what we're sharing live on there as well.
So without going to YouTube,
but either way I'm excited for us to try that out.
And we're gonna join the 2000s with our technology.
I mean, yeah, it's just a matter of giving more options

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And especially when you've got a year
where we've lost some really good soccer podcasts,
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And we're very lucky living in Seattle
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Not every city has that.

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So looks like they are headed into injury time
in the first half here, Colorado LAFC zero zero,
no real dangerous shots.
I mean, a couple nice runs for LAFC,
a couple nice runs for Colorado,
but nothing too dangerous there.
Which is to be expected with the temperatures
and the fact that it's in Colorado.

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So you got the altitude and literally I was in Colorado,
I passed by Dick's Sporting Park yesterday and it was,
it was a little chippy, a little cold.
I bet.
Colorado is 55% possession, but two shots on goal,
or one shot on goal, two shots total,
the four shots by LFC two on goal,

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one off sides for Colorado and one corner for LAFC.
So not a lot going on in that match.
I think LAFC might be happy getting out of there zero zero,
not that they won't try and score,
but I feel like when we get to Sounders Antigua,
that's kind of the goal of the first leg, right?
You're testing out, you got a new team,
you just wanna get out of there without giving up a goal.

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Yeah, but we have a little bit more of a differential
of talent disparity between us and Antigua.
But the general thesis is draw on the road, win at home.
But you definitely don't wanna play with fire.

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Absolutely, so why don't we go into the very first thing,
which is the question that came in immediately,
something that you and I think have been excited
to talk about for a while now.
There were leaks that we could not comment on.
I was super proud actually that our jersey,
the Sailor Sea Kit did not fully get leaked
until what, two days before it got released.

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So yeah, I think first.
Let's see.
It doesn't happen very often.
Usually it gets released a lot earlier.
Well, last year was released the day before,
the year before was released day of.
We've been pretty good about minimizing leaks.
But last year, FIFA blew it, remember?

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Or EAFC or whatever when they put it up.
So people had seen what it would look like,
even though they didn't see actual pictures.
But the Sailor Sea Kit,
I think we had seen it a few different times,
but we hadn't seen the storytelling around it.
We knew the basic themes,

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but we didn't hear it in the people's voices,
the women who had actually designed the kit.
Correct, yeah, three different tribes,
three different coastal weavers
from three different tribes in the Seattle area
worked together and collaborated together
to honor the generations of women

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who do weaving practices.
And so it was really nice to see that homage.
And I think it was rolled out really well.
I am very excited, not just that the high level concept
was ambitious, but the actual design is beautiful.

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And really excited about,
in Taylor Graham's words,
he often will say when we're having meetings about jerseys,
he will often say, especially for the Community Kit,
especially for the Community Kit in particular,
it's telling a story.

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It's very story-driven.
And what is the story that we want to tell?
And that is a high level look
at what motivates the Sounders.
It is about the story.
And you're seeing that with the Jimmy Kit
and the Bruce Lee Kit,

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and even previous iterations before them.
But I think the Jimmy Kit was really the sea change
where they really leaned all into
the storytelling narratives for sure.
And I think going forward, that'll be the norm.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because there was storytelling around,

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was it Black and-
Nightfall.
Nightfall.
There was storytelling around Nightfall.
There was a little bit of storytelling around Pacific Blue.
I don't think there was any,
I'm forgetting the name of the kit,
but my favorite, the Black and Green.
Oh, no, Heritage had it, but the one before that,
Black and Green.
That was the Pitch Black.
Pitch Black, that's correct.
There wasn't really around that,

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but we were still with Xbox then.
So there was some storytelling around the gaming
that Xbox did.
Master Chief came to a match.
Yeah.
We had the Halo Kit.
But you did touch on it with,
ever since with the Community Kits,
ever since with starting with the Jimmy Kit,
the club has been donating usually about $50,000.
The first $50,000 of Jersey sales goes to

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some sort of nonprofit.
I think with Jimmy,
it was a charity involved with the Hendricks Foundation.
With Bruce Lee, there were similar things
with his legacy foundations.
And then with this,
I believe the...

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Wraith Foundation is working in the schools
on the different reservations.
The Burke Museum.
The Luke.
Yeah, and the Burke Museum.
Yeah, Burke Museum, thank you.
Yeah, and I know that's just something
that it's really great to tie it in,
but also tie it in so it doesn't feel like an afterthought,
to feel very genuine.
And that just makes me really happy.

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So what are your first reactions of the game?
What are your first reactions of,
let's start with how about the introduction video for it,
the introducing of the Salish Sea Kit?
I loved it.
I mean, I think they nailed it.
I'm a big fan of productions like that.
And it's pretty amazing

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because considering the guys were in Spain,
they had to put that together really fast
and get them all in the kit and get it up.
And obviously they had already figured out
how they were gonna tell that story.
And I can tell you from someone who has both been
behind the camera, has been behind the sound,
and then has been on the computer editing,
that is not easy to do in that amount of time.

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So from a technical standpoint,
I feel like they nailed it.
It looks beautiful.
It represents both our communities
and the native communities,
not saying that they aren't the same,
but I mean our Sounders communities
versus the different tribes.
It represents all of them well.
And I really liked hearing all three women

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tell the story in their own voices.
I thought that was really important
because this is something that is integral
to what Seattle is, what our Northwest community is.
And it's part of Washington State history class.
I know you didn't grow up here,
but either your freshman year of high school
or I took it in eighth grade,

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you have to take a Washington State history.
And a lot of that does include Native American history.
So it's awesome to continue to see that be the case.
I was lucky because at schools I went to,
I got extra education and all of that,
and got to go on field trips.
Yeah, and I similarly grew up in upstate New York.

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So that is very much the Algonquin and Iroquois,
the Seneca Nation.
So very similar.
I mean, honestly, every state.
Every state in the United States is, if we're being honest.
Yes, but there are certain tribes
that have held their traditions a little better than others

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because in both the Washington
and the New York side of things,
they for the most part stayed in their ancestral territories
versus some of these tribes that,
your Cherokees and your Seminoles
who were migrated states away via Trail of Tears

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or things like that.
So it's a little different for us.
And it does create some really interesting history,
if history is something that you are a fan of.
And that is definitely something I am.
But with that said, yeah, so I definitely wanted to give
a lot of really, I wanted to actually specifically call out.

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So Connie McCloud from the Puyallup tribe,
Gail White Eagle of the Muckleshoot tribe,
and then Morse, I'm missing her first name.
I don't have her first name offhand.

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And that's really unfortunate.
And that is of the Snoqualmie tribe, I think, I believe.
Yeah, we'll pull it up so we make sure
that we have her name in there as well.
But yeah, and there are Danielle Morse,

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the Snoqualmish tribe.
And I think that's important note,
like Chief Sealth, who Seattle is named after,
was a leader of the Duwamish and Suquamish people.
The Duwamish aren't federally recognized.
So that is an important note that just because,
maybe the tribe that people consider the most Seattle

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isn't even recognized, and that the Sounders sing about.
The Sounders fans, ECS has the Duwamish.
And that's really interesting.
And we won't get into the politics of that.
We won't get into the politics of why they are,
or have not gained recognition.
There are certainly some interesting politics behind that.

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But for the most part, this is a great collaboration,
which just makes me really happy to see.
The colors, I love the color scheme.
Yeah, talk about that, because,
it's Sporting KC, oh, it's Vancouver.

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Okay, so keep this in mind.
These are not away jerseys.
Right, none of these are not.
House of Sounders put a whole thing out about away jerseys,
and it really bothered me.
I was like, this is not an away kit.
Away kits don't exist.
This is a community kit.
And they said, well, it doesn't matter.
Well, it does matter for storytelling purposes,

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and because people keep messing this up.
So this is really important.
Yeah, so community kit,
and this is something where the Sounders reached out to us
on the Alliance Council years ago.
This was shortly after the Heritage White.
So that was 2019.

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Yeah, because that would have been designed 2017.
Yeah.
So it probably was before 2019 even.
Yeah, actually it would have been,
yeah, it would have been because-
Because we're on that two-year cycle.
2019 was actually nightfall, I believe.
Hmm.
So we were asked years ago now, eight years ago,

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we were mainly asked,
do we want to traditionally have our secondary kit
be in our traditional color schemes?
Or do we want to treat it like
how we had previously been treating our third kit
when we were getting third kits for a long time?

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And keep in mind, Pitch Black was a third kit.
The Heritage White, I believe,
might have been a third kit officially,
but I'm not 100% on that one.
I think that was the first, quote unquote,
community kit before they had a name for it.
Okay, it's sometimes-
I believe it's the first year they eliminated third kits.

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Well, I know one of the years with the white
was also Pacific Blue, so I know there was overlap there.
Yeah, so I think we still had Pacific Blue
if I'm recalling correctly at that time.
So that might've been, was Pacific Blue
the last third kit that we had?
Yeah, that could be.
I'm pulling it up right now, so I can tell you for sure.
So ultimately, and while you're pulling that up,
so the point is,

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our feedback to the club was definitely
of the nature of take swings.
We would rather see unique jerseys for our secondary kits
than basically, okay, here's your version of blue,
here's your version of that.
Not saying you can't use the colors blue

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or you can't use colors within the Sounders color scheme,
but to not be afraid if you only get two kits, be bold.
And I think we've seen that with Nightfall, Jimmy,
Bruce Lee, and now this.
And it's paying off because this is now

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the third straight time that our secondary kit
on Jersey Launch has been pretty universally top three
and has been named top Jersey by multiple sources.
I think second straight community kit,
it's been number one by the MLS.

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So yeah, 2017 was the end of Pacific Blue,
that was the second year.
And that was the first year of the Heritage Kit,
which replaced the Olympic whites.
So we had white kit and that was also 2017,
no, I guess 2018, because we still had the Heritage kit.
For one more year where we had marijuana flage,

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which is not its real name.
I don't recall its real name.
And Heritage, that was the last year of the older scheme
in terms of home and away,
because now it's home kit light,
or first kit light, secondary kit dark.
And that didn't exist in 2018.

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2019 is when that implemented,
which was the start of the quote unquote community kit
even though it didn't have that name, which was nightfall.
So which is why our secondary Jersey will always be dark,
which is why we had to wear it a lot last year,
because if we're on the road
and somebody chooses a light color, we have to wear a dark,
or if they choose a color that's too similar to our green,

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even at home, we could switch to the other one.
I mean, there was a bunch of instances where,
like we couldn't wear green and having the Timbers
wear green at the same time, it just looks too weird.
I think last year, neither team could wear green,
either any of the games.
Yeah, so I think they're working on,
I heard there were some TV tests going on,
so we'll see what happens moving forward.

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But yeah, so it started right there with,
we haven't had a third kit since 2017.
And so we've said, be bold.
And the first was that-
Nightfall.
Nightfall, 2019, 2020.
And then we got Jimmy, and then Bruce Lee,
and now we have some of the other guys
who are in Bruce Lee, and now we have Sailor Slee.

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Yeah, and so ultimately, it's just really fascinating.
And to give people context,
the kit just launched last week.
The club is already putting together stories
and pitching story ideas for the jersey

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that will eventually replace this kit.
So that's how far these things are done.
Yeah, so next year's home kit
is already largely completed.
And there's always storytelling around that too.
But it's a little different than the community kit.

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The community kit is meant to tie directly back
into the Sounders community, the Northwest community,
just stuff that's happened around us.
And when we eventually talk about all the other kits
around the league, you'll notice that not every club
makes the deliberate decisions

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to treat their secondary kits in this manner.
Yeah, I think it's a missed opportunity.
You're seeing a lot of homogeny and a lot of,
oh, it's a white t-shirt, okay, great.
It's basically that template.
And you just don't get that with this kit.

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And I'm very, very pleased about that.
Speaking of LAFC walking back onto the field
with their community kit on,
which is just a white t-shirt with gold accents.
Well, you know what?
That's the thing though,
is not every club uses community kit.
They will use secondary kit.
Right, but technically the league is moved away from that,

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but that's still what they're doing
because they don't wanna tell a story.
And I don't know why that is.
But we'll get more into that in the next episode.
Well, wait, wait, wait.
Not only do they not wanna tell a story,
that is the one kit out of all 32 kits
that literally has no name.
It's literally just LAFC secondary kit.

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It doesn't have the Sailor She-Kit, the Heartbeat Kit,
the secondary, the Fortress Kit.
No, it's just- I mean, it is just a template kit.
It's like a template t-shirt, so it makes sense, I suppose.
You deserve, I guess.
So where do you rate this on the Sounders kits of all time?
Where is this on your list?

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If I'm being completely honest,
this might be the best one-two combination we've got.
I'm not saying they're the best two jerseys we've had,
but this is a really good one-two punch.

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The stripes on the Heritage Kit are beautiful.
I particularly love the Jock Tag.
The water is sacred.
Which is another reason why it's blue.
Yeah.
That's in English.

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And the Southern Lushatseed,
which is the custom language of Squamish,
it's a Squamish, Muckleshoot, Puyallup,
and Coast Salish tribes.
Yeah, a bunch of the Coast Salish tribes.
So it's just really, really fascinating.
And those of you that are often going to games at Lumen
will see some of that language as well

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on some of the signage around Lumen Field as well.
And so I think it's just another step in the right direction,
especially when that's a history
that oftentimes people try to erase.
And so it's just beautiful.

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I'm a big fan of it.
Me too.
I love it.
It's definitely just that this single kit is in my top five.
I want to see it on the field
before I actually put it anywhere.
My guess is I will have it as third most favorite
of all time.
But whoa, I think Colorado just drew a penalty.

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We'll find out. I think so.
They're gonna have to go to VAR
because I don't think they called that on the field.
Oh, they did.
They did.
Okay, let's go Colorado.
But yeah, I think this is gonna be a top five kit.
I mean, I know it's a top five kit
and I think it's one of my favorites,
not just the storytelling side.
It's the storytelling, the colors, everything about it.

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We get a lot of insight
and we'll talk more about it on the Patreon episode,
but we get to have a lot of insight
into how the jerseys get made and the process
and the players involved.
This is a home run for me.
Yeah, I'm very curious to see what kind of
international look that it may or may not get.

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Because it's not a template,
because it is a unique thing,
I am curious to see if it gets some buzz there.
Obviously Jimmy was an easy one.
Bruce Lee, both those are worldwide global icons.
So maybe it won't get the same kind of vibe,

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but just kind of fun to see.
I am a kid in Jimmy. I can see it though.
Because MLS is such a driver
in terms of conversations right now,
that I could easily see them trying to get a lot of US clicks.
Because if you think about the size of our country
and the way MLS is blowing up,
that's definitely something that they would be

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into getting into.
I mean, in all honesty though,
these are two beautiful kits
to showcase ourselves to the world.
So no matter how we line up for Club World Cup,
I'm pretty happy with that.
And Colorado.
Yeah, put hell of an end.

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That's what's up, Colorado.
48th minute.
49th minute, 49th minute.
Just before the 49th maybe, I think it was like 47, 59.
So one nothing right now.
So speaking of Colorado, this is a good segue.
Yeah.
Good, good segue.
So word came out over the weekend

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that the Colorado Rapids traded for Josh Chatencio.
What was your initial reaction to this?
And before we up to 1.6 million in general allocation money.
Yeah, 1.3 guaranteed.
1.3 guaranteed.

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Now keep in mind that they are allowed to trade for cash,
but if they trade for cash,
only certain amounts could theoretically be using.
It wouldn't really affect.
And you can only do two trades like that
for the whole season.
Yeah.
So you're really hamstringing yourself

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of potential future moves if you made that move now.
Exactly, exactly.
So I like the trade for GAM,
because essentially my thought is that
you're essentially getting 1.3 million
for a deep bench player.
And I really like Josh Chatencio,

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but I just don't see how he was going to get
more than seven starts with this lineup that we have.
He had his chance last year,
and obviously the Sounders thought he was gonna take it.
They made him number eight.
Yeah.
Okay, here's the chance to play,
play maybe overtake Obed because he was older,

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because he developed so much the previous year.
And instead he seemed to take a step back.
I mean, there was a few matches,
and I don't wanna be too critical of him
because he wasn't getting the playing time,
but there was a few matches where he subbed on late
and some of his mistakes led,
like the San Jose match that cost us the Heritage Cup,

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directly led to a goal.
Well, now maybe other people are out of position,
maybe there's lots of,
it wasn't just his fault that we didn't win that game.
But that was just an example of he came on
and then couldn't hold off the opposing team.
And if you're not getting that rhythm.
Right, and so it's amazing how much he just,

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something happened where he was no longer developing
to the point where we're so deep at center defensive mid
with Christian moving back to that position
where he was so good in the past
prior to the last World Cup
that you weren't gonna see him get minutes there,
which is why they were moving him to center back.
But listening to Schmetzer today or yesterday,
whenever it was talk about it,

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I think that they had such a,
Stuart Hawkins definitely making the club
and Kim Ki-hee coming in,
they felt like they had an offer they couldn't refuse
because they had turned down other offers.
Yeah, well, keep in mind,
Atensio is still getting US men's national team looks.

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He was on the summer Olympics roster.
He has club World Cup experience.
He is very, very talented still.
He's only 23 years old.
I think a key example of that is the fact that part
of the transaction is that Seattle retained the percentage

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of future transfer fee.
Yeah, there's a sell on class.
Exactly, and that tells you in a nutshell
kind of what we're saying right there
is that he still has tremendous potential value.
And right now,
this 1.3 to 1.6 million,

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there's definitely a few worlds in which
we can get even more because I can see Atensio moving on
outside of the league.
I can see that really happening.
If we were making, if we're getting good money
for Henry Wingo to go over to Europe,
Sam Rogers, who's now back with Chicago,

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I think Atensio is a better player than both of them.
Yeah, much higher ceiling in retrospect.
I think Sam Rogers maybe had the highest ceiling
of all those players, but then stopped developing
altogether.
I think there's still plenty of time.
He was playing in Champions League,
and so he was, actually so was Henry Wingo actually.

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But Wingo I think was early enough in time
that the MLS was not the quality that it is now.
I don't think Henry Wingo would be making a roster today
in MLS Cup, or in MLS the same way.
If he did, he'd be near the bottom of the roster,
but absolutely.
I think the other really important thing to think about

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is the Sounders now have no U22 players.
That's right.
They moved on from him.
They moved on from Leo Chu,
which means not only do we have potentially,
we have cap space, quite a bit of cap space that opened up.
We have GAM.
Now keep in mind, we don't have 1.3 million.
We have 650,000 this year.

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The other 650 will come next year.
But just-
Plus freeing up his 250 against the cap,
which brings us up to 850.
But it still gives us the opportunity to bring in a U22.
Oh, Colorado, no.
They're attacking.
Oh, did it go in?

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No, oh my God.
That was the craziest thing I've ever seen.
I would not have interrupted our thoughts just for that,
but that was wild bouncing around in the box.
So you're absolutely right.
Now I do expect to see us utilizing
one of those three spots for a Leiva.

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I don't know, Leiva has to earn everything still.
Obed, Obed for sure.
No, no, the point is right now,
if you designate that as a U22,
that takes that whole salary off of the books.
There's no reason not to.
It's kind of the way we would use Ozzy
as just a transactional DP for a bit.

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And there's no parallel-
Sure, but I think, I don't know what Leiva's contract is,
but I don't think it's that high.
But I think there has been talk in the press conferences
a couple of things about bringing in Snyder Brunel still,
who is wowing the team.
I don't know if he would need to be a U22 yet.
He could just be a homegrown.
I think he would be under the homegrown cap, I would think.

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Yeah, potentially depending on how good he has been,
which I don't know the answer to that.
And there's also been talk in the press conferences
that we've seen from Craig
that bringing in an outside U22
is a very real possibility leading into the summer.
And I think that's a realistic thing,
because even though we have three U22 slots,

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we do not have the cap space for three U22 players.
There are two separate things-
If we brought them all internally, we could,
because we wouldn't have to pay a signing fee.
Correct, transfer fees.
Yeah, transfer fees.
But that does mean theoretically, and this might happen,

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and this is something the Sounders have not done a lot of,
is loans are not transfer fees.
So we could theoretically, if you're a European team,
you've got a player that's maybe a loan candidate
and they have a chance to compete
on the Club World Cup stage maybe,

(42:32):
that is a potential that could-
And I know nothing about any rumors or anything.
I am just kinda, I'm just talking about possibilities here,
and I'm not even entirely sure how that works.
So I'm not even entirely sure if I understand that correctly.

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So please don't hold that to me.
Now we also are currently the three designated player model
with three U22s.
Now that we have zero, that potentially could change.
We can change that this summer.
I think the date, I believe the date's already passed,
but it could be this coming week that we have to declare that.

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But either way, because it may be when the roster freezes.
But anyway, either way, we could change that at some point
and bring in another DP should it be a possible
through a loan scenario like you're talking about.
It wouldn't, it couldn't be a senior DP.
It would have to be a U22.
Yeah, I mean, I thought, can't you do four and two?

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I believe it's the other way around.
Oh, you're right, it's the other way around.
Four U22s.
You can do four U22s, correct.
Yes.
So we're locked into the three and three model.
Yeah, which is interesting because Pedro
was a youth designated player when that existed.
Those don't exist anymore,
so he just counts as a regular DP.
Correct.
I wonder if he believes in himself enough

(43:59):
that they could rework that contract some way.
That'd be cool, but.
But either way, yeah, so we could bring in
three U22s in theory.
I would expect, I would guess one internal
and one external at this point, this season.
But who knows what'll happen.
I'd love to see an impact player come in
and try to make a difference.

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But you're not bringing in a U22
that's not pushing for minutes when it comes down to it.
Yeah.
So I don't think that's a good idea.
I don't think Snyder Brunel would need to.
I think he would join our other homegrown players
who of course are Obed, Cody Baker, Reed Baker-Whiting,
Jacob Castro and Stuart Hawkins.

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And so I think he would join that task.
And it looks like we actually have one, two,
three TAM players in, well, I guess four if you count.
Ferrera, he's gotta be under a TAM contract,
I would imagine.
But Arreola, Yamar, Christian, and then Jordan,

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of course moved up to a DP from TAM.
Yeah, I think you have that correct.
And the thing is though for the U22s,
if they're not making, I think it's about 250,000,
somewhere around there is that level.
If they're not making over that, then it doesn't,

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you don't gain an advantage
to putting them on that contract.
Like for example, Leo Chu was making 550,000.
And that's why using him as a U22 made a lot of sense.
Josh was making 350.
So yeah, so that's why he was a U22 because he was there.

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Danny's making 235,
so that doesn't really make sense for him either.
And then Reed is making only 100,
Cody's making 89, seven, Castro,
they're all making the same.
Except for Stewart's only making 70,000, poor guy.
Yeah, right now as far as our U22 players,
this is as of last fall's roster release.

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Georgie's making 89,000,
Josh Atensio obviously is gone,
Cody Baker's making 89,000,
Danny Leiva's making 235,000.
So he's probably someone who would be a target for that.
Yeah, but it's 250, isn't it?
So it'd be-
I think so, but it depends on how it might be,
there might be some budget relief,

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especially if bonuses are involved.
I don't know what that was last season.
That's true, but his next year,
it looks like his contract is even though.
So he's not back loaded or anything,
which I don't even know if he can do in MLS,
but his contract next year is also 235.
But the reality is you may see Sounders give a early-
I mean, Reid Baker Whiting is in the last year

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of his contract.
Paul Rothrock is in the last year of his contract.
You could see those players-
He's over 22, he's 25.
Oh yeah, that's a good point.
He just came in young.
But Reid, they could sign into a U22
in order to lengthen that contract
because they would have to pay him more
than his current 100,000.
And we can extend Obed who's on 89,000.
So I wouldn't be surprised to see us doing Obed a solid

(47:18):
by raising his wage before-
Because he's also in the last year of his contract.
Yeah, so I would expect Obed for sure U22
and then maybe Reid, depending on how he develops this year
and how much time he's getting,
because he is kind of a utility knife right now,
but we have so many players on our roster now

(47:40):
in those positions that it's gonna be a lot harder
for him to see minutes.
The one good thing is that he's not in the last year
to see minutes, the one good thing for players like that
and for Danny as well is I think we have so many tournaments
that it gives them a chance to get more minutes as well.
Well, keep in mind that Reid Baker-Whiting
was also on some lists for some of the top.

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He was in the top players under 22 in MLS.
Yeah, but unfortunately he's got a little bit
of a run where he just can't get healthy
and so hopefully he can get that going.
I don't see that though as a real concern.

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I mean, he did get hurt at the end of the season
and he came out with a little nick in pre-season,
but unless he consistently, that still happens.
I'm not worried about that just because it wasn't like
he didn't recover from his injury or it's the same injury.
I feel the same way about Pedro de la Vega, right?
His injury that we had him for was unrelated.

(48:46):
I do think they brought him back too quick,
but was unrelated to his previous knee injury.
Oh no, but you still need playing time.
You need consistency.
Playing time wise, yes.
Yeah, that's where I'm more concerned is just
on that level, not that he's injury prone per se,
because I don't get the sense that these are those kind

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of injuries, I just get a sense that it's a rough run
and it could stunt his progress.
Sure, sure, of course.
So we got about 10 minutes left in the show,
a little longer maybe, but let's switch over
to Conker Calf Champions Cup, a name that, of course,
I had said I hate.
It doesn't make sense to me to change it away

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from the branding that you have in Europe
when everyone knows Champions League.
CCL, my friend.
CCC just sounds weird.
The only, I like CJC because that's me,
but no CCC here.
What do you think our chances are?
Can we make a run?
Is it realistic?

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Yeah.
I do.
It's a tough, it could be a tough run, but what do you think?
Again, we've got depth.
Depth is going to be a huge, that's
a huge part of this story.
If we look back when we won Champions League in 2022,

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we would have midweek games going on.
The Champions League games were often the midweek games.
Then the weekend games, we'd be putting in our teenagers,
that Austin game with all five teenagers,
the teenagers and Raoul.
That was due to Champions League.
Having this kind of roster flexibility,

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and the beautiful part about it is not just the fact
that we have the roster flexibility,
but the tactical flexibility.
I think that's even more important
because there will be times when we're going to want to bunker.
There are going to be times where Paul Arreola will
be a great option to start a game,

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whether it's the Champions League or the leagues play.
It gives us a better opportunity to get points more consistently.
I'm very, very excited about that.
Our draw is not going to be easy.
I see you got a lot of people.
We're going to play Cruz Azul if we advance.
They've already beaten Real Hope.

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Yeah.
Then if we advance past that, we play the winner of
Chivas Guadalajara in America.
Yeah.
Then we would have to play the winner of Galaxy
versus the winner of T. Grace in the
neither Montreal or Cincinnati.

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Well, the thing we remember is the fact that this is largely
a group who have extensive Champions League experience.
These are the kind of games that for love it or hate it,

(52:04):
the dark arts always come into play.
I think back to that New York City FC series and NYCFC just
was not prepared for.
Sorry, it's Montagua, not Montreal.
Motagua.
Oh, Motagua.
I apologize for that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think we have just as good of an opportunity as any

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of the other MLS teams.
I think so.
I mean, the winner of LAFC Colorado will go on to play
Columbus, and they're going to have to deal with Cavalry
versus either Miami or SKC winner.
And then, of course, Monterey has already gone through
the perennial winner from Mexico, and they'll play the

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winner of Vancouver, Saprissa.
And I actually don't even know who LDA is.
And they're playing Pumas.
And then, of course, let's not forget the Galaxy is in our
bracket versus RSL.
They play the winner of RSL versus I don't even know who
CSH is too.
Some of these teams.
LDS, Alhawa.
Yeah.

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Oh, here at Rediano, Salt Lakes playing.
Who's LDA?
Alhawa and Costa Rica.
Yeah, yeah.
So they've made a few appearances.
Yeah.
So yeah, it's going to be a fun run here.
I do think we can make a run, but there's not a lot of room
for error, right?
So we're going to have to play our starters like we did last

(53:40):
time, and then maybe it's going to hurt us in the MLS play.
I'm OK with that.
To trade off, I will take.
But yeah, so as of right now, as of right now, yeah, Cruz Azul
has moved on.
As you said, Monterey has moved on.

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Pumas, they did officially move on.
Yeah, they did.
Because they lost their first game.
So it was still in doubt.
So it was pretty interesting there.
So can't wait.
I love it.
I love it.
It's going to be fun.

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I mean, a week from today, right?
Yeah.
It will be the home match.
The home match you're talking about.
Tomorrow is the official match.
So we, of course, are playing Antigua.
What do you know about them?
You know, when I think of Antigua, I think coffee.
So yeah, I mean, it's Guatemala.

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The Antigua region is very known for their coffee for sure.
I'm a little bit of a coffee geek.
But this is, I believe, 9,000 people.
That's the stadium we're going into.
It's a stadium that holds 9,000 people.
This is their second run at Champions League.

(55:06):
So good for them.
But I don't know much about them at all.
So I feel like we should be able to go to Guatemala
and control possession depending on what the field conditions are like.

(55:37):
I think we'll dictate a lot of whether we go, how aggressive we go,
especially with it being the first game of the year.
You know, I think trusting your squad to,
because the inverse will be true as well.
Guatemala is going to have to travel to Seattle.
Yeah.

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And our roster is designed in such a way
where we have a lot of players who have played all over,
even just the MLS players.
The U.S. is such a vast landscape that just by natural there,

(56:19):
you have a lot of things, a lot of things to be familiar with.
I am not entirely sure.
I suspect a lot of the Guatemala roster is local Guatemalan talent.
Primarily.
I think they only have five or six foreigners on their team.
Yeah, a Costa Rican defender, a Venezuelan defender, Argentinian defender,

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Argentinian midfield, everyone else is Guatemala, Argentinian midfield,
Romario from Brazil.
I don't know if it's that Romario.
34 years old.
So yeah, it might be actually.
Yeah, I mean, it is a Romario, but it's not the Romario de Souza, too,
but not the Romario.
No, no, no.
He's from the Red Bull Salzburg Juniors who went on to play all over Brazil,

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including Fluminense, but not the big guy.
OK, not that one.
But yeah, so really.
They do not have any national team appearances.
So everyone on their roster is either from Guatemala, Argentina, or Brazil.
So coming up to travel.

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They're second right now in their league.
So they're playing well, but yeah, they're going to have to travel up here.
Sounders let us know that Christian Hernandez is their attacking midfielder.
He's the focal point of the team.
So he's who to watch out for.
Juan Appaulaza was their big winner signing coming out of Venezuela,

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and Jose Ardon is their big defender who has played 15,000 minutes in his career.
So that's who to watch out for, for sure.
I think it should be an interesting match, but I agree.
Their highest valued player would be near the middle of our roster in terms of value.

(58:10):
Yeah.
So we'll see what's going to happen.
I just want to get out of Guatemala healthy.
And I would take a one goal loss, but healthy over a win and any kind of significant injury,

(58:31):
anything that would miss more than one or two games.
Right. And usually we wouldn't even talk about that, but we did have Jordan Morris himself back.
Who was that again?
Saprisa? No, no, Santa Tecla, I believe. Santa Tecla, that's right.
Our old nemesis, Saprisa, who is in the tournament this year.

(58:53):
For me, it's Olympia. It's always Olympia. Oh, Olympia also. Absolutely.
But man, that roster had Alberto Liss on it. It had Rommel Quiro on it.
I mean, that was a really good Olympia roster.
That's always a player that I think is Japanese because I didn't realize how it was spelled.

(59:15):
So I thought it was Kyoto, like the city in Japan.
Even when he played for what, Houston?
Yeah, he was the DP for Houston.
Actually, I think both of them were DPs for Houston. I think both Calise and Kyoto were. Yeah.
Yeah. And then that was the match where Brad Evans hit the penalty at the end and taunted the goalkeeper, right?

(59:37):
Yeah. But keep in mind, you make it sound like he taunted the goalkeeper.
The goalkeeper was trying to get in his head. Yeah, goalkeeper deserved it.
Six minutes. Yeah. That is my rule number one for Sounders games of why you never leave a game early.
That game right there. Yeah.
That was frustrating because at least scored in the eighth minute, if I recall correctly.

(59:59):
And then Olympia just went full Dark Arts and just faked injuries.
And oh, that was such a frustrating game with such a beautiful, beautiful karmic ending.
Yeah, I took the woman I was seeing at the time who had been to Sounders matches before.
But that was like a really great one to take because I think it got her hooked. Yeah.

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Now we have a few minutes left here. I want to ask one more from the mailbag.
Also noting we have other questions in the mailbag that we will get to because we do plan on recording another episode before the home opener this weekend.
So this might be a two episode week for you if you're not a Patreon member, three if you are.
This is a question that I think we're in a good position to answer, which is T-Mobile users getting free analyst pass for the season.

(01:00:53):
Does that mean that not enough people are subscribing to season pass or is this a great move from Apple to get more eyes on the league leading up to Club World Cup and World Cup 2026?
This is not the first year they've done that. Last year you did not get it through T-Mobile, but the previous year you did.
Correct. Correct. And before that, whatever the product was before Apple took over, I think MLS season pass.

(01:01:20):
Yeah. That was also this is this is not unusual. Yeah. It's something that they offer as a member benefit.
Exactly. T-Mobile will have free Hulu, free ESPN. So this is this is this doesn't necessarily speak towards any warning signs of the Apple TV deal and the numbers.

(01:01:42):
I get both Hulu and Apple TV free through T-Mobile and and not I guess not MLS Cup since we got it through our season tickets.
Also, I believe Xfinity is someone else is giving it out for free as well. I think I will I will eventually end up with three codes.
I think the. What are they doing? Xfinity is doing something different. I don't think it's one of the other ones that I am a part of.

(01:02:07):
I will have codes, though, because I read there was three different places that I had I got. Hey, hey, you're all Sounders fans.
You're all geeks. If you have access to multiple codes, get the codes and give them to your friends.
Give them to, you know, give them to come on into Discord and go, hey, who needs a code?
You know, look out for each other. You know, my second code is going to my parents and the third will probably go to Mr.

(01:02:32):
Mollett, himself, Aaron Lingley, who I believe made it to San Diego.
We haven't heard an update since they were snowed into Portland.
Yeah, yeah. So I'm sure he's in warm, sunny San Diego just in time for the San Diego FCC season to start.
A little jealous, little jealous. I could use some some some warm weather. I'll tell you.

(01:02:57):
I subbed on a Boba Sea for L.A.F.C. What a to be able to sub him on for Zharoud is such a flex.
Crazy. Yeah, like it's like when they had Lateef Blessing as a sub.
It's just wild. But at the same time, I mean, it's we're in that position.

(01:03:18):
Yeah, we're going to we're going to be able to bring on.
I think we're going to bring on a super viola as a super sub.
They're going to be days where probably one of Jordan.
Yeah, what she said, they're going to be days in which we are probably going to sub on in the sixty fifth minute one of Jordan Morris,

(01:03:47):
at only three times, and I think I read a paper that read the paper about like
a

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five at the back, because you have three center backs, the two wing backs.
But it had two center defensive mids and two center attacking mids.
And then of course Jordan up top for that first match, which means you could
potentially have Pedro and
Jesus Ferreira playing right behind Jordan, which would be a fascinating thing to have.

(01:04:34):
Which means those wingers are going to have to really track forward and
track back if that's gonna be the case.
Otherwise, we're playing a whole new ballgame.
We're not going into the wings like we used to.
Well, you're absolutely right.
But the other thing to keep in mind though is, well,
one Albert Rusnak will travel to Guatemala.
Yeah, he has, he's on the plane.
I don't anticipate he'll play.

(01:04:55):
But what's really interesting to me is with this lineup flexibility is that
I know we have had one of the best defenses in the league over the last,
basically since Schmetzer has been a coach really.

(01:05:17):
But in particular, we've been top three the last few years.
I expect to let in a few more goals, not because our defense is going to get worse.
But I think we're going to prioritize attacking play.
And when you look at how we are looking in the preseason,
looking at our attacking options, that's exactly it.
We may be, and I know you're, I'm already cringing at,

(01:05:43):
I bet you can guess where I'm going with this.
I'm already cringing at you attacking New Hoo,
because I know they're going to be tied.
Oh my God, did Colorado just pop a second?
They did.
It's Mihailovic again.
Mihailovic on the free kick.
No, see, New Hoo playing center back is what I'm into.
Like if you put him at center back, he can't travel up that far.
And that's going to make our defense even stronger, in my opinion.

(01:06:04):
Like I said, New Hoo is one of the best defenders in the league when he's playing defense.
So put him back there.
It makes our defense stronger and potentially even better.
What a beautiful free kick.
And I mean, you're beating Hugo Luis on a free kick.
That's just, that could have happened to a better team now.

(01:06:29):
Colorado just needs to hold this lead.
You cannot let LAFC pull one back.
You got to take that lead.
Got to take that lead.
You got to hold on to it.
Question?
I think our defense will be strong.
I think it'll just depend if they get enough help.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because you'll need it versus a Buanga or some of these other Gabriel Peck type players

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that can just run all over us.
And so we'll see how that goes.
It can be really, really interesting.
I love that flexibility that we've got.
And I'm very curious to see if we can continue that really nice run of offense in the preseason.

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Yeah, it looked good.
I love Pedro just looking.
I mean, oh, you weren't able to attend last Wednesday, were you?
No, I was leaving the day before and Roma was not feeling great.
So I was not able to make it.
So we did go down and I posted some pictures and Jerry livestreamed from Alliance Council.

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And so I put that up for all of our Discord members to see.
But Pedro was unbelievable.
He looked even better than he had in the past.
Fully fit, wanted the ball.
He's not feeling pressure in the sense that it's too much for him.
He's feeling pressure in the sense that he's going to go out there and perform because

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he has no other choice.
And it's incredible.
I fully expect him to be the star player this year.
But when you've got De La Vega, Jesus, Morris all on the field at the same time, that's
pretty damn good.
But that's definitely some dangers.

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And it's dangerous in different ways.
So and that's not even talking about Rusnak.
You know, it's not even talking about Paul Rothrock, Mnungu.
You know, it just it gives us so many different ways we can attack.
And that's what I'm most excited to see is just how that shapes out.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
So I think that's a good place to leave it for this episode, don't you?
I do.
I do.
So any predictions?
What are we going to see tomorrow?
You know, I think two things.
Sorry.
Let me frame that a little differently.
One, do you think we're going to see a three, five, two or four, two, three, one?

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Three, five, two.
No, three, six, one.
Everyone to put it.
We're going to have five at the back.
We're going to have three center backs, two wing backs.
And then I don't know how they'll do the midfield.
I think I don't know if it'll be.
I think we'll have two center defensive mids.
I could see us having right mid and left mid despite having those wing backs and letting

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them overlap.
Yeah.
I don't think we would if we had four at the back, but I could also see that not happening.
But I do expect us to have five defenders in the match.
Okay.
And then what's your final score?
I'm going to say one, nothing sounders.
I think we can pull out a goal.
And then I think if we do, we won't necessarily need to push anymore after that.

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So we can slow it down a bit and focus on not giving up a goal.
So do you think Antigua will be happy with just one being down one, nothing, or do you
think they're going to try and push it home and that'll open up a counter and make it
two?
I think it could.
I don't know if we'll take advantage of it because I think Schmitzer will be risk adverse

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so early in the season, but we'll see.
We definitely could get that second goal and go for two.
I would just hope that we come out of there for our fans sake, especially our discourse
sake.
I hope we come out of there with at least one goal because even though I think you and
I would both be happy with a zero zero draw, I think there's people that would be upset
with that despite it being actually a good result.

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Data analytics, it's one of my favorite things.
And going outside of the region to play a game is such a challenge in and of itself
that if you're not allowing any goals and getting out of there with the point that puts

(01:10:55):
the ball in your court literally.
Yep.
Absolutely.
So what are you thinking?
I'm not going to lie.
I think this team's got some swagger right now.
And I think they're excited to showcase that and I got a feeling that they're going to

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cook a little bit.
I think this might be a three nothing or if Antigua gets one, it'll be kind of a weird
circumstance.
But I have a feeling that the score line is not going to reflect the disparity on the

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actual field.
I think we're going to comfortably win, but I think it's also going to be one where we're
going, oh, we could have had another two, three goals.
Yeah.
I do think if we win three nothing, we potentially could see the same starters on the weekend
since it's the start of the season.
And so we actually play well in the MLS match and then put in more of our quote unquote

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backup, some of them also starters in the match next Wednesday because we won't need
as many goals.
I said it last week, man.
This year, as long as we could stay a little bit healthy, is going to be really interesting
to see.
This is going to be the year in which we could see a very demonstrable, oh, that's a decision

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Brian Schmitzer is making because some of the l.a.
FSA just pulled one back.
And of course they did.
Of course they did.
Aaron Long.
Homer Sounder.
Late goal off of a Bawanga cross.
That may be offside.
That may be coming back.

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We'll see.
It's close either way.
Finally shout out to Alex Diaz, to Tim Hamilton slash muffin top model, to Cedar and everyone
else that got questions in our scuttle.

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You can hear people commenting on that goal right there.
Yeah, it looks like there's no VAR.
Is that right?
Do we remember correctly?
I know League's Cup did not.
They're holding it right now, though, so they haven't kicked it off.

(01:13:31):
So potentially they are looking at it right now.
I think the question is going to be, was he interfering with the vision of the goalkeeper,
which I think he is.
He's right.
He is.
And the defender, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's offsides, I think, in my opinion.
I don't know if they'll call it.

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He gave him the goal.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, I got no skin in the game.
It doesn't matter.
Okay.
So why don't we call it a...
Do we have anything else in the mailbag we want to touch base on on this episode?
I think we'll call it there and get on to recording our Patreon only episode.

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Where can they find you on the internet?
Hey, come on out to Instagram at Cascades2C.
Cascades2C on Instagram.
I don't really use Twitter much anymore, but it is Nikita Banana.
And what about you?
Yeah, you can get me at legal minded punk on all of them.

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There you go.
And Aaron at Aaron Lingley.
So we'll get Aaron a little shout out there.
Yeah, he's doing well down there in San Diego.
All right.
Well, everyone, welcome to the regular season.
Not the regular season, but welcome to the season, I guess I should say.

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We're here.
It's tomorrow.
Let's do this.
24 hours from now, we're going to have a result.
Yep, that's true.
Okay, James, take it away.
Okay.
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