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August 11, 2025 53 mins
(00:00:00) Introducing Monique Powell from Save Ferris
(00:12:21) How Save Ferris Ended up in 10 Things I Hate About You
(00:18:32) Filming with Letters to Cleo
(00:22:49) Soundtrack Composer Richard Gibbs and the Soundtrack Supervisor
(00:25:00) Finding Music in Your Teens
(00:30:07) Save Ferris Appearing on Roswell and Finding Music via TV Shows
(00:36:18) The Ska Lifestyle
(00:38:16) 90s Friends and Fake Rivalries
(00:43:59) Why People Connect with Ska
(00:50:44) Thank Yous and Goodbyes

Monique Powell, lead singer of the Ska band, Save Ferris, joins Nicole Barlow and Ryan Pak to talk about the soundtrack to the 1999 Gil Junger film, 10 Things I Hate About You. Not only does Save Ferris have a song on the soundtrack ("I Know"), but Save Ferris is the band that plays at the prom in the the film. They perform their song, "I Know", and they back up Letters to Cleo's Kay Hanley as well for the Letters to Cleo cover of Nick Lowe's "Cruel to be Kind" which is also on the soundtrack. From stories to being on the 10 Things I Hate About You set, memories of being on the TV show, Roswell, to news about a new Save Ferris album, a lot of ground is covered on this episode of Soundtrack Your Life.

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
My name is Ryan Pack and I'm Nicole Barlow, and
this is Soundtrack Your Life, where we speak with the
guest about a soundtrack that is important to them. Today.
Our guest is Monique Powell, lead singer of the ska
band Save Ferris. Welcome Monique.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
So Save Ferris has been pretty active recently. They've been touring,
which is what a good SKA band does. Over the
last couple of months, you guys have dropped a couple
of singles. You did Get Dancing. You released Get Dancing
back in April, and you just released Oh Rudy back
in June.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, so ooh Rudy is just a soft release. We
haven't done the official release for that yet. But prior
to Get Dancing, it was lights out in a reptile
house and then we also had a Christmas song last year.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
I like the vibe of the new singles. It's like
kind of chill, like perfect for summer.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, I had. I did an interview for CNN and
the guy who interviewed me called it the song in
the Summer and I thought, I like the ring of that.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Oh I like that too. Yeah, you know, I don't
think there has been like an official Song of the Summer.
So I think that should be up in the running.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I don't think so either.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
I think we need to nominate it here and now
let's officially nominate it for a Song of the Summer.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I mean, the video is at.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
A boardwalk, it's at the beach. Please, what else do
you need?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I agree?

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, and nothing really beats Orange County in the summer.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
No, but that was actually filmed in LA. I was
gonna say, did you film it in Venice?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, but you know what, Venice gets used for OC
a lot, and sometimes OC and Long Beach get used
for Venice, like that whole Olympics opening, like that closing
ceremony thing where I think everybody thought Snoop was in
La for the La Olympics. It was actually from the
Long Beach.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Oh oh, a little you know, oh, a little tit bit.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
You know, beach is a beach where it's okay.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Beach is true. Each is there's take pH a couple
of miles down and you're like, in Orange County, it's
all corrected. Yeah, it's all.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Our jobs are beach.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Beach exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Right on. So, uh, Nicole and I are based in
Orange County. And that is also where Save Ferris was born.
So we're very excited to have you. I have like
friends who are like who have like Save Fairest stories.
My band open for them in like ninety six before
we broke up and went to college, and you know,
we've got a lot of fun stories. Nicole has a

(02:49):
great story as well.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Do I have a great story? Ryan?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
I forgot what is the story?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Your husband was designing Save Ferris websites in high school?

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I forgot to put it in front of me. But
I I am going to show this too too, Monique. Okay,
so my husband is a creative director slash graphic designer
and we're talking about this interviews, like that's really great.
You know, I just found my web designs from nineteen
ninety nine that I had to do for design class,
and one of the web pages for I don't even

(03:18):
know if you were on Epic. It's like Epic Records,
and the landing page is for Save Faris and has
all your.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Son titles and all this design.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
For Save Paris, and like, stop it right now, this
is how iconic you were in the oc areas.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
He was going to Chapman at the time. Oh, that
is so cool.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
So the first band that he thought of was like,
obviously it's Save Faris. And I'm telling you right now,
like you were everyone's crushes crush. You were the lead
singer that had like the pipes, the style, the presence.
I remember being in high school and absolutely idolizing Save
Faris and you were like just powerhouse. You were everything

(03:58):
in the nineties for p people that are uninitiated and
do not know, like sayferest is everything. It is OC history,
it is third wave scot history.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
It is so kind. Thank you. Yeah, I feel totally
unworthy of venue.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Like literally very important to everyone, but like specifically if
you are from the OC, like this is a very
big thing. This is very real. It's like a it's
like not even a six degree, it's like a one degree.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
One of my one of my best friends, he played
bass in the Knuckle Brothers. They were a ban and
he's like one of my highlights. One of the highlights
of his life was they got to play with you
and Phantom Planet the Anaheim House of Loes was like
the biggest show that they got to play, and he
like still talks about as like one of the highlights.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Of his life. Knuckle Brothers was one of my favorite
bands back in the day I loved.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
I'm going to send him that audio clip and it's
gonna make his day.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, I mean I ended up bringing their trombone player
in the Save Ferris.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yep, he is very proud of that. Is like we
showed a horn section player. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So I went to UC Irvine for college and I've
been in Orange County ever since, and it's it's been
fun discovering people's like different like SKA stories of you know,
when the scene was because I wasn't there for when
like the scene was at its peak. But you know,
people still love talking about that stuff.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
They do and they like reliving that time in their
lives too, which is why, you know, half of our
audience is people my age who either went to shows
back in the day or wanted to go to shows
and couldn't and can now because you know, the band's
still touring, so.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's pretty cool. Like there's there's the whole like, uh
what do you call it, like reliving of there of
your youth sort of aspect to a lot of the shows.
And then there's also you know, kids who think we
wrote come on, Eileen, Well that.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Is I think it troubled that a lot of bands
and artists have when they have a cover that absolutely
blows up, and there are entire generations of people for whom,
you know, Dexi's Midnight Runners is a totally unknown thing.
I'm pretty sure it was for me in high school.
And even if it was, even though it did come
out like oh yeah, Dexi's Midnight Runners saying it originally,
I don't think anyone cared because it's one of those

(06:29):
instances where, you know, sometimes the cover sort of over
shuttles the original in a lot of ways, at least
two like a certain cohort of people, it becomes such
a big deal.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah yeah, I mean it's cool, Like I like that
cover because the original was so precious to me. I
really wanted to do it justice, but then also make
it sound like a say Fair song, so it it's
it's always refreshing to play it. I think, Wow, what
a great job we did with this song. I hope

(07:04):
Kevin Roland likes it, but I'll know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
You've never heard anything about how it was received by
the band members.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
No interesting, I know it's so weird, you would think,
but you would think, yeah, so interesting.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well, I would love to think that they are very impressed,
maybe too impressed. Maybe they're like, it's too good.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I can't all get it. It's so good. I can't
even listen to it.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Turn it off, Like oh no, the outshone us. I
didn't even have to wear like those half overalls where
you're naked underneath.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
That was I loved that that video was so much
as a kid, they're so cute.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well, speaking of metology things, I think, you know, the
nineties gets looked at it and Third Waves gone, that
whole period of time where people were experiencing the joy
of this music and things were really happening at like
clubs and venues. In oc describe what it was like
to be like an unsigned band at that time, and like,

(08:16):
you know, do you have any fun stories from like
that scene that you remember really vividly?

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Uh? Well, I just remember everything feeling so possible, like
anything was possible and life.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Was good, like we didn't really have that much to
worry about. We would go to these shows and see
our friends play and experience this freedom and this sort
of feeling of community that was really cool and they
made a lot of friends in the scene, and so,

(09:00):
you know, being an unsigned band in our late teens
early twenties felt so like.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I can't believe this is happening. Like with every show
that we played, large or small, it was still like
we played like we were playing for thousands and thousands
of people. Just everybody that showed up, ten people, ten
thousand people. They were just so important to us. And

(09:33):
that is something I practice ean today. You know, I think,
you know, our fans are so precious and I'm so
lucky that you showed up today.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
I remember, you know, Say Faris was so iconic for
k Rock and so kay Rock is a local radio
station to LA, but I think has a life beyond that,
and these k Rock Acoustic Christmas Company were sort of
like it. And you would wait to get tickets at
your local Tower Records to go to the Acoustic Christmas show.

(10:09):
And you were so like, such a strong presence on
those compilations. Do you enjoy making you know, Christmas songs?
Is that something that like is really big.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
For Say Faris. I don't know if it's really big,
but I really enjoy I enjoyed like covering the Waitresses
Christmas wrapping and great. This most recent Christmas song that
I wrote, which is not a cover. It was cool
because I had this vision that I really wanted like

(10:43):
a Halloween type of song on one side of the
seven inch and a Christmas song on the other side
of the seven inch, and to release it just before Halloween,
which we did and it came out great, and I
don't know, it made me really happy. So the first
original Christmas song we did.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
So Also in the nineties, what was vig was, you know,
these soundtracks that had like a billion different songs on them,
and you know, we interviewed one of the guys from
Semi Sonic a couple of years ago, and you know
a lot of the answers to like, oh, you guys
are on this soundtrack of the soundtrack, they're just like, yeah,
I guess management in the label just like stuck us

(11:22):
on there. And they just kind of told us like, yeah,
you're on the soundtrack.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Now.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Did you find that that was kind of the case
of say Ferres, Like, oh, people like say Fares, We're
just going to stick them in these soundtracks and just
be like oh, sure, scary.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Movie, Like how did that come about you know, like,
is that something that like it's just like okay, it's happening,
or did you do you remember having like a really
active role in those decisions as they were happening.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, with the Scary movie thing that was kind of
similar to the Semisonic guy's experience. It was sort of
like huh, I guess we're in the soundtrack now. And
it was sort of a label decision, I believe, but
for like the Ten Things I Hate About You soundtrack,
obviously we so we recorded us this song and we

(12:12):
had it and put it on the soundtrack and it
happened to be the song that we also performed in
the movie, so it worked out.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, So as far as the movie went, like did
you have to do like a screen test if you casted?
How did that conversation of you guys being in the movie?
How did that happen?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
No, we were like on warp tour and they were like, okay,
you guys are flying to Seattle on your one day
off to go be in a movie. We're like, cool,
let's do it. And so yeah, we just sort of
showed up real green, not knowing what to expect, and

(12:56):
just did what they told us.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Oh, so the U shop is in one day. This
was a one day shoot for the prom scene in Times.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Wow. We were only available for that one day, and
so you didn't really get a chance to do like rehearsal.
You just kind of walked on set and remember being
like directed to what to do.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, they just told us what to do. But because
it was easy, because it was a song we already knew,
and we were already playing live, and and we just
had to be ourselves just that we didn't really have
to be somebody else, So just be a band that
we're like, that's easy. You're like, cool, we know how

(13:37):
to do that. That's yeah, fancy. Yeah I had to
do that.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
It happened that quickly, so it it didn't really feel
like it was pre planned. It wasn't like you had
six months of notice. It was just like one day
we're on Warped tour and the call comes in and
we're flying to this random high school that looks like
Hogwarts by the Sea in Tacoma.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
I can't even remember what the school was, where it
was or any of that. It was a long time ago.
But what I do remember is being sort of like, oh, Okay,
I guess we're doing this now, Like so maybe maybe
everybody else knew, but I didn't, And it just felt

(14:23):
very really exciting and very like, oh, we're going to
be in a movie.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I mean, it is very cool.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
And I'm assuming that the way that it happened you
didn't have any sense at the time of how sort
of iconic this movie was going to become and how
long shelf life it would have, because I think this
is one of like the essential nineties teen movies.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, oh yeah, uh, you know, now that I think
about it, I may have like gotten the script a
couple of days before just to look over it, you know,
but I was like, what do I need to know?
It's going on? Like we're just a band at a prom.
And of course we had no idea that the movie

(15:07):
was going to be what it became. Heath Ledger at
the time was relatively unknown. It may have even been
his first American film, I'm not sure, but if not,
the first one of them. And so, yeah, we didn't
really know any of the actors who were in the film.

(15:28):
They weren't recognizable names to us at the time for
the most part, you know, And so we just thought, oh,
this will be a this will be like a you know,
a cool indie film or something like that. We had
no idea. I had no idea what it was going
to become.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, so you weren't told like, oh, yeah, this movie
is a modernized version of Shakespeare.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
I was, and so when I read the script, I
knew it was a loose interpretation of the Taming of
the Shrew, but I didn't really see too many comparisons there.
But I thought that was kind of a cool concept.
I always think it's weird.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
You know, usually when you film scenes like this in movies,
everything is kind of on silent and everybody's dancing into
like a rhythm that doesn't exist because the music is
oftentimes not played on set. Is that your recollection that
the music was not being played on set, So you
were just sort of like up there with a bunch
of people dancing to Notathane.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yes, that was exactly it was. I was going to say.
The weirdest part of it was just dancing to music
that didn't exist and trying to look cool with everybody,
like all the extras, and everybody's sort of really being
into it and doing a great job acting the role,

(16:58):
but the whole idea of dancing to silence is just
and it and it. I don't know how they get
it to transfer. Like there wasn't even a click track
for everybody to dance to, so I don't know how
they transfer that. When they got the audio together for
the film, everybody seemed to look like they knew they

(17:21):
were what they were doing. So yeah, I mean it
comes across great. It comes across as like the coolest
prom ever.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
I feel like I want to ask you if you
want to apologize for setting up unrealistic expectations for like
how cool prom was gonna be. Paris didn't play at
our proms, like I was like a middle age DJ
with the receding hairline. Good like wedding on the weekend.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah. And then I do think we played one prom,
really real prom. Yeah. I think it was a contest
and yeah, I think it was in Orange County somewhere.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, like a radio like a K rock contest kind
of thing, something like that.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Wow or maybe Redlands maybe Redlands Headlands. Wow.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Do you remember playing a whole set or do you
just kind of like pop in and play.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Song and we've played a whole set Wow, was this after.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Ten Things They Hate About You came out or before?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Do you recall? I think it was before. Yeah, so
filming Ten Things I Hate About You were like, huh, okay,
I know I do that. We've done a problem.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
We've done it all by now, including you know, high
school problem, the problem.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Just just tell me where to stand.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
That's a good Actually, do you remember what it was
like to work with Letters to Cleo and with Kate
Hanley because you have, you know, these kind of great
moments with them on the fake stage in the movie
as well, or were they there for a day two
and it was just like it's a blur.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I totally got to meet them. And I can't remember
where it was that I got to hang out with
them somehow relative to the film, so I'm not sure
if it was the night after we filmed the scene

(19:08):
and then we got to hang out with those guys.
But I loved them and I loved her. She was
so cool, really really a cool tick.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Were you told that you were going to, you know,
be doing a song with them on the stage as well?
That I believe it's a cover of Nicholas Cool to
be Cruel, Cruel to be kind.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
No.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I knew all that. That was like all in the
script and that was cool. But the last scene on
the rooftop was supposed to be us for a minute,
we were told that that might be us, yeah, and
then I don't know, I don't know how we got
switched out for that, but that would have been really cool.

(19:58):
So I thing about that.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
But I guess that scene never officially got greenlit by
Disney and they just sort of did it anyway by helicopters.
There's no drones when this movie is being made, so it's.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
A helicopter shot.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
And there's some stuff that you can read with Kay
from letters to Cleo where she's like, yeah, there was
like nothing separating as from just like falling into the pages,
and it felt like it unsafe. So I don't know,
you may have like dodged one would not having to
go on the roof.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Who knows. You may have.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, putting a whole horn section up there might have
been too much.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah right, Yeah, your band's just too big for this scene. Sorry, guys,
there's not enough room on the roof for all of you.
Too dangerous.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, I mean, if you watched it back last night,
and it did look kind of unsafe to be barrier.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
There's no marrier.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
There's like one thin little wire that's sort of you know,
fencing them, and that's it is nothing. I think that
like one two takes maybe and.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
All the noise from the helicopter, all the wind and everything,
and you still have to be able to hear the
song and lift sync to it. It must have been
really hard.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, And it's it's funny because if you look at
the Ten Things I Hate About You soundtrack, you know
you have say Ferris and you have madness. So there's
definitely like Ska on the soundtrack. But when you watch
the movie, it seems like the movie has a lot
more Scot than the soundtrack does. Like the soundtrack tries
to kind of like split it up, like, oh, we've
got all these different genres on here, but when you

(21:38):
watch the movie, it's like mostly Scott.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah. Like the uh, the music director and the composer
for the film just went all right, let's just got up.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, that's exactly right. They were like, let's got up
because the score is on and off. It was just
like a SKA vibe pretty much that way through but
I think I think there that was the moment right
where like if you had a teen movie or you
had a rom com, it was sort of essential that
you had like a cool ska band to be in
that film. Mighty Mighty, boss Tones.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Or lewis Les. Yeah, you know, real big.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Fish was in Trey Parker and Matt Stones Basketball. I
feel like that genre of music was so synonymous with
fun and youth, and you know you were to get
that it banned if you wanted your movie to do
numbers at the box office.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I always laugh at that. It was like you were
in a real scub band if you weren't in a
prom scene in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yes, it's true. It's one of the requirements needed to happen.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah. If you can't get that prom gig, better break
up the band.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yep, it's over.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
So the guy who scored the film, his name is
Richard Gibbs, and he was in Oingle Pongo, so he
does have some ska cred.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Hi, that's cool to know.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah. He also scored Say Anything, And apparently he's like
good friends with Jonathan Davis of Korn because he worked
on Queen of the Damned and he was like the
musical director for Corn's Unplugged.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Dang, that's cool he scored say anything cool?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
I like that. Yeah, the music department for this movie,
like they really brought it, like the producer and soundtrack supervisor.
He also did the Craft, which is also a great soundtrack.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Oooooo.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I liked that movie so.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Like the idea that this like movie works on a
soundtrack level, like totally makes sense to me with like
the people behind it.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Totally you learn something new every day, huh.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
I also think what I like about this soundtrack too,
and you know, your inclusion in it and letters to
Cleo's inclusion in it, is that it hasn't really strong
feminist lead and Julia Stiles it has kind of it's
a little bit anti. I think what was going on
at the time with a lot of teen movies where
you had a lot of you know, like sexist tropes
and stereotype. But it really wasn't that, you know, and

(24:14):
I feel like they took a lot of care to
make sure that they were very leaned into like no,
this is we want strong female presence in this movie.
And I think, you know, again, like your inclusion in
this is such a part of that for those of
us that love the film.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Wow, thank you. And now that I think about it, yeah,
like you're so right about that there, that movie was
different than all the others. Yeah, it really did speak
a different message.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I was very shocked to hear a bikini kill reference
in nineteen ninety nine and like a big studio film,
that was really cool. Whoever was doing the art direction
for Julius Styles's room with all the.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Posters, all the posters?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, very impressed by that.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yes, me too. I always look at those scenes of
kids rooms in movies to see who's on the walls.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Me too, Yeah, I mean obviously youtubes were always like
scanning for Easter eggs and stuff, but that's always like
uh okay, like what did what did the art department
decide to like find? Like where who are we in
the scene? Did you he was on your wall as
a kid? Like was this it was more of a thing.
I feel it used to be more of a thing.
Do you remember like rock posters in your room?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, I feel like I actually remember having River Phoenix
on my wall.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
I was oh, I mean Phoenix and taste.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I loved him so much, but musically not really. I
didn't really have a lot of that, but a lot
of River Phoenix. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I feel like it was more like if you were
if you were like a teen or preteen girl, Like
it was more like that tiger b vibe like.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Where yeah, like part God like on your wall, but the.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Whole thing with like music posters. It's like, I don't
know who was doing that, but I see movies all
the time.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, but my sister definitely had like David Bowie on
her wall, and that's how I got into Bowie and
stuff was through saying that and the like her Devot
records and stuff. So if I would have had anybody
on the wall, it might have been them and Prince
I loved Court. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
My older sister who was in high school when I
was quite small, so have a big age gap. I
remember she had a giant Prince Purple Rain poster in
her room for the longest time, and I swear to
God that changed like my brain chemistry. Yeah, look at
that purple Rain poster of prints every day and not
be like that's I want to find out more about that.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
What is that? Yeah, that's how I was with Bowie.
I think I would just stare at this picture of
him on her wall and say, that is the most
beautiful being I've ever seen, Like, what is their story?
You know something? And then I heard changes and changes
one and I was like, oh it's.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Over, it's done.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah relatable. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
We once got to interview a fashion designer who worked
with David Bowe in a fashion line.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh my god, who what was their name?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Keenan Dufty Uh.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I met him once? No, did? What was a Bowie encounter?
And how did that come about? Well, it was one
of those K Rock shows that you were talking about
career and I started to meet him and then just

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sort of fell apart and the whole thing went became
very short, many words. Did you just sort of no,
no needs. I just was like I just stared at
him and he was just in such a beautiful smile.
I can't say anything right now. I started to tear up,

(28:23):
and then it was just he was like back, but
He's like, Okay, well I don't have to I don't
have time for this right now.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Back.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
So I'm sure he gets that reaction. He got that
reaction a lot. I only got to see him live once,
and it was at some like Moby produced like show.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Like Showcase, like a festival thing. I hit a festival
for a brief moment.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
It was or if My Meadows, which I know you
played back of the day, you weren't some like epic lineups.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Or if medos back of the day.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, so I remember that like very vividly.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
It was very wow. That must it's been cool.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
It was, it was, it was very yeah, but I
didn't get I've never been like up close to bowies.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
That's like, yeah, it's like, oh my god, you're so
much shorter than I imagine. Really, I was thinking that too.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Celebrities are always smaller when there are, right, they're always tiny.
It's like they have like the heads and tiny hotties
as always is.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
And then you were processing it, you know, so true,
you're all aliens. That's that's why you get so many roles.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
You're all aliens pretty much.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
It's funny because professional athletes are the opposite. And then
like I like I was in Vegas and I saw
a basketball player and I was like, oh, so that's
what six eleven looks like. Because your brain doesn't really
know how to process that. No, I was like in
the elevator and he had to kind of crouch down
because he's six eleven.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I love it, oh man, Now getting back to some
soundtrack stuff, so maybe this is another like it was there.
It was the label's decision. But you know, I also
noticed that you were in that Save Ferris had soundtrack
contributions to Dawson's Creek like a few times over and
Ros and I was wondering if you remember that, and

(30:18):
if you, like, did you have some kind of contract
with like the CW's, because I need to know, like
the I.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Don't know, like Epuch was under the Sony umbrella and
Sony had their fingers and a lot of stuff, right,
it might have had something to do with that. We
were like on an episode of Roswell. We were in it,
you were in it? What would do?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
What happened in the Roswell episode? Because I couldn't find, like,
I don't remember were you at a prom?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
You were not at a prom. I know that I'm
pretty sure it was Colin Hanks, wasn't it? And I
hope I'm thinking of the right show because we were
on a couple shows and it was like it had

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something to do with a dream sequence and one of
our songs was in his dream sequence, and then I
sort of showed up. I think in his dream or
or during his waking hours, I can't remember, but we
had this short interaction. I think I had one line

(31:33):
and I practiced it over and over and over again.
It with the line was something like no problem or
something like so easy, and I was like, this is
so weird. But Colin Anks was super cool and a
bass player and a musician.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
I didn't know that that is cool.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
That is the confirmed he was in Rosweld's So you
are remembering anything, Oh thank god.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
You know, Roswell had doesn't have a reputation for like
being a big music show, but I think they did
a lot of cool like like under the radar things
like that. And I believe their theme song, like starting
in one of the seasons was like a sense Field song.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Ooh, I liked sense Field.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
And it's like, oh, good for them.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, that's cool again.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
I think they had like pretty strong, you know, relationships
with labels and really good music supervision on a lot
of those teen shows, Like they weren't phoning it in
and it was actually a really kind of nice place
to sometimes discover music.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, yeah, totally. I still kind of discover music through
the shows that I watch. Like I was watching The Bear.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Oh and there's this beautiful.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Version of English beat song by Eddie Vedder. Is it
the Eddie Vedder cover? I had no idea it was
Eddie Vedder.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I was like, God, this is so beautiful. So I
she zamed it. I like rewound the episode and then
she zammed it and I was like, no, no, no,
that's not I can't be Eddie better. And then I
did it again and I was like, oh my gosh,
that is Eddie Vedder. It is so beautiful, and.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I think they got him to do it for the
show they did.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, I like read into it and saw who produced it,
because it's produced so beautifully. It's a famous, very very
like award winning producer who produced it, and I was
so thoroughly impressed. Oh and his voice just sounds wonderful.
I mean, I was never like a Pearl Jam fan, really,

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but that really made me a fan of Eddie's for sure.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah, it's a great version of that song.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
It's a great version.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
I think it occured a lot of people's attention and
the music supervision on television in general, Prestige TV right now.
But also the Mayor specifically is so great, so well curated,
really close to I think the showrunner's vision for We
could talk about that. Listen when you agree about the
Bear this entire show, because you and me both were

(34:11):
I love that show even when we hate that show.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
We love that show, and I know talk about I
love it so true. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I did find the Saint Vincent needle drop from this
season to be like, I think this is like a
little too cool for the Bear. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I think that there sometimes does best when it's like
really lean into like some what you would maybe qualify
as dad rock, when it's like a bit of Morrison,
or it's it's an Eddie Vedder cover, Like that feels
really right, like something they would actually listen to.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Here's our here's our fourth needle drop from the Weezer's
Blue album.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I noticed that too. I was like, God, they love Weezer,
and you love it. They do nineties, a lot of nineties,
a lot.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Of Weezer, a lot of Willco.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yes. I was kind of like, huh, all right, well, okay,
I guess this is this is what we're doing with
the Bear. We're just visiting the nineties musically every episode.
But again, like.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
It worked. You know, I have I have a friend
in the restaurant industry, and I feel like his ability
to like find new music stopped when he joined the
restaurant industry like that, Like that's the deadline after that,
no new music.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I mean, if you're if you're in that industry, you
are NonStop, right. They just seem so busy and just
it seems to just take so much time and energy
and I can't imagine you're just you just come home exhausted,
like nope, I don't have time to look for new
records today. Bah.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Well you're saying that to somebody in like a touring band,
you know, like you're somebody like preparing to go on
tour across the UK and like have a really constant schedule.
So I feel like that's also got to be something
that is really crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, no, yeah, it is. It's crazy. And I'm tired
all the time, and I'm always I'm always like I'm
too old for this shit.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
I think even people that are young or too old
for that ship though.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
It's uh, yeah, it's hard, and you know you're dealing
with like a lot of moving parts at all times
and lots of personalities, and it's sort of like hurting
cats a lot. So not only is it like emotionally

(36:42):
very strenuous, but it's also very physically ugh, very physically
like exhausting.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, and what you do on stage and what you
do with your instrument, with your place must also be
a really hard thing to keep up. Do you have
like tricks for how you keep your voice especially do well?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I do have a short warm up that I do
that I've been doing since I was a child. And
then I just like, I can't really go out after
the show and meet people and talk in loud mars

(37:31):
and stuff like that. Even doing signings I have to
be really careful with because it's very It puts a
lot of strain on the voice.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Sure, that'll do it. It's not even like going on
and getting racked. It's just like you can't talk in
a loud place.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, hey, listen, I will go out with y'all tonight,
but all I'm going to do is drink. I'm not
going to talk, And I am doing this for the
sake of the band, right right, Yeah, No, that's exactly it.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
I'll shake a hand I'll sign something, take a selfie,
but I won't talk.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
That's not just slammery like a little paddle, you know,
that's got some version of that on it.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah. Sorry, can't talk.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Not blowing you off, just not talking.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Totally.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
So I pulled up a couple of fun facts of
bands of people from bands that you may have toured
with or played shows with that are kind of related
to soundtracks and just kind of music in general. So
do you remember the Gray Boy All Stars, the San
Diego band? I do, Yeah, Like the one of the

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guys from there, like he's a huge soundtrack composer. Now
his name is Michael Andrews.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Oh yeah, oh he was in Gray Boy.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, he was Elgin Park and Gray Boy.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
I'd met him a few times back in the day. Yeah,
Mike Andrews. Yea.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
And now he's doing like Donnie Darko, and I think
he did like get him to the Greek and stuff,
which you know is infamous for other reasons. But you
know he's scored that film.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah. And he was responsible for that great cover in
Donnie Darko, right.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Right, the Mad World cover.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Mad World, Yeah, because I.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Remember, like looking up, I was like, who's Michael Andrews like,
can't be just nobody and have this huge cover of
and I was like, oh, he was in Gray Boil
All Stars, Like that's.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
So random, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
And then the the producer Ariel Reichstadt, he was in
a ska band called the Hippos.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Ah, I'm very familiar and they produced the him stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
And yeah, yeah, he's done a lot of stuff. We
just interviewed Keith from We Are Scientists, and I think
he did the first few albums of Theirs as well.
He's done a lot of stuff. But yeah, he was
in an l A SKA band called the Hip and
accordings Wikipedia. They couldn't quite break through because they were
from LA and not Orange County, and Orange County did

(40:07):
not accept them.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Okay, I need to know if that's confirmer deny. Was
that a thing money? We played a lot of shows
with the Hippos.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Yeah, I feel like maybe that is not true.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I don't I don't know, Yeah, I mean La Orange County.
I don't know, maybe, but we've played a lot of
shows with them. I remember really liking them a lot.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Was the LA or not LA was the San Diego
Orange County rivalry or real thing or was that just
kind of a marketing thing to make compilations.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
I've never I've only just now heard of it. Like
I didn't even know there was a rivalry because I remember.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Going to like looked like a local record shop and
they'd be like Steve versus o Ce pop pop punkin
SKA and I'd be like, oh, yeah, am I supposed
to not like that.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
People love to make like a local rivalry, like it's
sports teams or something like a prison starts snapping. It's
like a Sharks and the Jets, like knife fight, you know,
like horns with brass instruments. But it feels like that's
not true. No, having kind of like lives that moment.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, Like I was, I thought it was controversial when
I was like in high school and I was like, oh,
I like, you know, I like Rancid and uh, you know,
Skanking Pickle, Like I like I like Bay Area SKA
bands and be like, oh what about San Diego And
be like, I don't know, you guys, don't.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
SKA bands were super cool too. I love Skanking Pickle and.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Like, which one of you has a Korean guy? That's
right in all the music.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Right on and he went on. He went on to
do great things too. Mike Park.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yeah, he's still a legend.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Still a legend, had to label, has a label.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
I believe still runs it out of his mom's garage.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
That's cute.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's cool. I think I
think my friend told me that one of the girls
in the Linda Linda's I think her dad was like
in a SKA band and now you're like engineers albums
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Well that's interesting, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
So you know, just because SKA may not have been,
may not be as big as it was in the nineties,
doesn't mean that these people from these bands aren't doing
great things still.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, I wonder what band he was in. I wonder
if I know him.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
I bet you you do because my friend who was
in the Knuckle Brothers knows him.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Okay, So all right, you know.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I assume that if they know someone, you know someone.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah, I feel like he doesn't know you, that he
doesn't then yeah, if I don't know, you don't exist.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
No, Yeah, Like I remember we were we played the
Day of Fullerton a few years ago, and my my
friend was like, uh, I was like, Oh, you guys
want to go out for a drink or something. And
I was like, it's like, now I'm going to go
over and catch my friend said he's the lead singer
of scapeche Mode.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Depeche Mode. Nice that is. That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
And I feel like, you know, like I said, like,
you know, people love their love their skad days, you know,
and they love to connect with those people.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
So yeah, it's not just a type of music. It's
a lifestyle. And I think that's why it never dies.
It's been through all these different incarnations and it just keeps.
It's like a.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
What is it.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
It's like a bad It's like a bad something. It
just never goes away. It's like a bad I don't know,
it's like a wart wart. It's just never. It's like
as hard as you try and make skaga away, a

(43:57):
thing just comes right back.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
You know. There's something very just like human about ska music.
You know, I have two young kids, and like it's
one of the first styles of music that they just
really connected to.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's there's something about the fast upbeat
that that tends to be joyful. I once heard ska
music referred to as the song that plays in a
kid's head when they get an extra chicken nugget with
their French fries. Well, like, that's perfect. It's true. It's

(44:37):
that little song. But y'all, yeah, I got an extra
chicken nugget. That's hilarious nugget. That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I was probably playing in my daughter's head yesterday when
we went to seven eleven and I was like, it's
free because it's seven eleven, dach, I get a slurpe
for free. Probably a ska song was probably in her head.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Probably a ska song.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I mean, it's it is very like soundtrack your life
right where it's it's kind of the thing that you
hear when you're walking around town you're a really good day,
Like that's the kind of music that you want playing
in your own fantasy.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Absolutely, it's everything's always like seventy five in sunny and
feel right. It's true, And I think you really need
that and love that, and that's why there's so much
I think both love for it still and it finds
new fandoms, and why there's so much nostalgia for it,
and people of course want to relive that and live

(45:33):
in that. Absolutely, that's got to be really exciting to
see now that you're touring, and it's got to be
cool to see the fans again and see their response
to what you do.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, I think it's been. It's really fun to see
the new fans too. I'm just sort of amazed. Every
time I look down, I say, who's been to a
say Fair show, And like, no one raises their hands.
I'm like, h I guess we got a whole bunch
of new fans here.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
It's pretty cool, super cool, enduring. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
I love seeing bands that have been on the scene
and then going to their show and somebody's brought like
their preteen kid, and you know, it like means something
to them as a family and to that, Like I
love the idea that things get passed on.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
I mean, it's not a wart, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
I think it's a great legacy.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Like got more like a carbuncle.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Yeah that word so crops.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
No, definitely not Nah. No, it's like a it's like
a freckle that you really it's like a a birth
it's like a birthmark or a male that make that
you really like when you look in the mirror there
it is like it's there. Yeah, I'm not getting rid
of that there. Yeah, there's stilling anywhere. Yes, we got history, sister. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah. We have a podcast friend who I think found
found some AI filter that got rid of like the
the mole on her nose or something, and she's like,
how dare you erase that from my from my history?
I'm proud of that. I like that, ay, s I really,

(47:25):
I really hope that they call you up to do
some Yogaba Gabbland because my kids love that show and
I feel like it's Scott, you know, because I think
the Aquabats guys are behind it.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah, and I love that show too.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
And my my kids have have discovered the interrupters to
that show.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Oh I didn't know they were on that show.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Yeah, they were on the new season. And my kids
love that song.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Oh that's really cool.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
So you know, through all these like different means, some
of them that we don't even know about, like Sky
is like spreading everywhere, like TikTok I'm sure has like
a bunch of like SKA memes going around, and yeah,
lots we're really excited about the singles you've released. I
hope that means maybe an album's coming or.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
It is length album. Well, yeah, full length is common.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Just yeah, we're just figuring out the right time to
release it. It's pretty much done.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Well, that's super exciting. Yeah, and uh, I don't know
if you know this, but I know is not really
available for streaming in the studio version, but you can,
but it's on the live album that you guys did
a few years ago.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Yeah. That's kind of interesting because it was on the
ten Things I Had About You soundtrack, and I feel
like if you pull up the soundtrack on at least Spotify,
I think it's on there out a I know is
grade out.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
We're going to need to settle this because I definitely
saw the live version on Spotify as well when I
was looking this up, But now I'm trying to remember
if it's officially Oh you know what. Yeah, sometimes this
weird thing happens right with like rights and usage where
it will be on the original soundtrack. If you're lucky

(49:21):
enough to own that physical media, you've got it, and
it just doesn't translate to streaming, And it does seem
like it might just be the live version everywhere, which
is crazy.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Well that's why we always recommend people by the physical media.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Right, agreed.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
This just turned to this movie just turned twenty five,
I think last year. So yeah, you know, I want
to believe that maybe it's been re released on vinyl
and you can get you know something, the complete version
of what's in the film. That would be cool if
you can, I hope. So.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah, people show up with the records like on vinyl
for me to sometimes and I'm like, did you just
get this and probably or have you had it? Like so,
because I don't remember them originally releasing it on vinyl,
so I think that's a new thing.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Yeah, probably so yeah, they're probably shiny and new.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Yeah, the mid to late nineties there's like, ah, like
this big gap of like no one releasing anything on vinyl.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
I know. Yeah, I'm so glad that it's we're back.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Yeah, I'm glad it's vinyl.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
I love vinyl.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
I'm glad that Taylor's done with her versions of things,
so then the pressing plants can rent press other records. Well,
thank you, Monique, it was an honor to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Thank you so much, You too, what a nice conversation.
I had a great time.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, we had a great time talking to you. We
loved chatting about the few sure of say Ferris as well,
is you know, going back to the past and talking
about ten things I Hate about you? It is honestly
one of the like when I tell people I have
a soundtrack podcast ten Things I Hate about You, comes
up a lot like, oh, have you covered ten things
I hate about you?

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Is?

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Is that kind of what you're gonna do on your podcast?
Cover stuff like ten things I hate? And so finally
we have it.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Ah, that's so great. Yeah, that movie. I'm so grateful
for it. It really like any we can go anywhere in
the world and people know that movie. You know, it's
just so well uved.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Yeah, and the music is a huge part of it.
And obviously you're not just there for like a second.
It's not a you you blinked and you miss Say
Ferris like you're in such an important part of the movie.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
It is the save Ferres pram.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Like listen, it is the save Fist prom.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
You know that that's blasting off into the two thousands
then like at two turrets on that weird high school
or like literally blasting off like rocket. It's like you're
you're on that, You're on that poster. Okay, like it's important.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Thank you, I love it.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Ah, make sure you check out the new Save Faris
songs you got get Dancing and u uh rudy. They're
available wherever you want to listen to music, please do
and uh, you know, maybe buy some physical copies of
say Fari's albums.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
I'd be all right with that. And with that, I
gotta go. There's someone at my door.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Oh you know what fair so uh you know you
can check out say Faris, will post links to their socials,
will post links to their website where you can find
their tour dates, and you can find us if you
want to check out our writing site blog dot Soundtrack

(52:56):
Yourlife dot net. We have both free and paid tears
for that and we are on social media blue Sky
at Soundtrack your Life dot net, on Instagram, on Instagram
at soundtrack cast and uh and if you are someone
that represents Kean McGregor, slide into our DM. We'd love
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