**VOTE FOR SPEAK HONEST**
Ever had a dream that felt way too big… and way too scary?
In this episode, I sit down with Jennifer Henczel, the founder of the Women Podcasters Network and the Women Podcasters Awards, to talk about what it really means to take the leap... even when you're terrified. We talk about the accident that changed her life, how she built a global movement of women’s voices, and why showing up scared is still showing up. Plus, I spill the news about Speak Honest being nominated!!, and how you can help support the show in the most amazing way.
You might want to listen if:
- You’ve been sitting on a dream because it feels too overwhelming
- You’re scared to use your voice or start something new
- You crave deeper connection and community as a woman in business
- You’ve been told you’re “too emotional” to be a leader
- You need a little push to believe that your voice actually matters
About Our Guest!
Jennifer Henczel is a Podcaster, Author, and Founder of the Inspiring Innovators Club and the Women Podcasters Network, Show and Awards. Jennifer’s mission is to lift women’s voices and stories globally.
Jennifer Henczel is known for her ability to build thriving, supportive and collaborative communities, and she teaches others how to do the same. She loves creating opportunities for women to connect and collaborate in meaningful ways.
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Jenn Noble (00:05):
Hello and welcome to Speak Honest.
I am your host and certifiedrelationship coach, jennifer
Noble.
It has been my passion for overa decade to help women like you
heal what's been holding youback from having the
relationships you deserve.
Are you struggling with arelationship where you can't
seem to voice your emotions,needs and boundaries without
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having it blow up in your face?
Then you have found the rightpodcast, my friend.
Get ready for practical tips,empowering truths and honest
conversations.
Now let's dive in.
Hello everyone and welcome backto another episode of Speak
Honest.
I am Jen Noble, your go-torelationship coach, and on
today's podcast, I have aspecial guest.
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Today I have Jennifer Henseljoining us Now.
Jennifer Henczel is a podcaster,author and founder of the
Inspiring Innovators Club andthe Women Podcasters Network
show and awards.
It is Jennifer's mission tolift women's voices and stories
globally.
So you can imagine why I lovedhaving her on the show, both
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because her name is fantastic,obviously, but also because it's
her goal to lift women's voices.
Jennifer is known for herability to build thriving,
supportive and collaborativecommunities, and she teaches
others how to do the same.
She loves creatingopportunities for women to
connect and collaborate inmeaningful ways, and I myself
actually am getting a chance tocollaborate with Jen because I
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have been nominated for a WomenPodcasters Award.
Yay, I'm so excited.
I feel so honored to benominated for this award, and
what I want to talk to you abouttoday is getting your support.
So if you are listening to thisand it is between May 1st and
May 31st 2025, I'm just doublechecking because you know, maybe
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you're listening to this yearslater If you could, please do me
the biggest favor scroll ondown to the show notes and click
on the link that says vote forSpeak Honest.
I want you to vote for SpeakHonest.
I want you to vote for SpeakHonest, please.
It would mean the world to meso much right now because it'd
be such an honor to be able towin this award.
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I am in the personaldevelopment category, so when
you click on the link, you'regoing to go down, you're going
to scroll through.
You can vote for any of theother podcasts as well, but the
one you want to click on ispersonal development and speak
honest.
If you could do that, you wouldmake me so happy and, if you
get a chance, if you want to goahead and take a screen cap of
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your vote and drop it in theFacebook group or email it to me
.
Then I will put you in therunning for a free coaching call
.
It means the world to me thatyou all are going out to the
support and I want to give backto that as well, and anyone that
votes is going to be enteredinto a drawing for a free 60
minute coaching call with me.
Thank you so much for yoursupport and again, as you're
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listening to my conversationwith Jen, I just want you to
really be thinking about wherein your own life can you take
this big leap to start something?
So Jen's story is so incrediblyinspirational.
What she went through with herhusband, what she's done to
build her own business it is allinspiring, and so I want you to
listen to this episode andreally just keep in mind.
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Where could you be followingyour passions?
Where could you be creatingopportunities to lift others'
voices?
All right, I hope you enjoythis conversation with Jen, all
right?
So I am joined today withJennifer Hensel and I am so
excited to have Jen on thepodcast today because Jen is the
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founder of Women PodcastersAward and Network and I myself
am a nominee in the WomenPodcasters Award this year, so
excited about that.
But first and foremost, jen,tell us a little bit about
yourself.
Jennifer Henczel (03:49):
Oh, thank you so much for having me.
I really love being here withyou today on your show.
So I founded the WomenPodcasters Network and the Women
Podcasters Awards and you're inthere and I hope people vote
for you because you're doing anamazing job with your show.
You are a perfect example ofsomeone having a podcast and you
know, a podcast is all aboutdisplaying your expertise and
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helping people and building acommunity around your message,
and you're doing so well at that.
So I really appreciateconnecting with you.
Thank you so much for that.
Yeah, I appreciate connectingwith you through the awards.
It's just my joy to connectwith other women podcasters.
And you know, for many years Iwas running my part-time
business on the side and workinga full-time job, and it just
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seemed like success was alwaysaround the corner.
I was always trying to turn myside gig into my full-time
income, you know.
And so one day I was at myfull-time job and I got a phone
call that nobody wants toreceive and it was my husband's
boss and he said you've got tocome to the hospital right away
and my husband had been in aterrible accident at work.
And I got there to the hospitalall the way to the hospital I
was thinking I'm not going tolose my best friend today, and I
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was really terrified because Ididn't know what was happening.
At that point I had very littleinformation.
I got there I didn't evenrecognize him.
He had been crushed bythousands of pounds of wood oh
my gosh, yeah.
So you know he survivedThankfully he survived, and it
was many years of recovery.
He still is left with somepermanent injuries.
You know, it really blew up ourlife, but at the same time it
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kind of ignited something in me,in both of us, to pursue our
passions more, because you know,many years I was really burning
myself out.
I was working 12, 14, 16 hoursa day in hustle mode.
I was in a very competitivehustle mindset and this whole
experience really changed mywhole outlook.
And so what happened was one ofthe things that really impacted
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me was the communities that myhusband was involved in.
At the time he was a volunteerfootball coach and announcer in
our community and footballplayers and coaches would come
around and say we're here foryou, coach Paul.
It was really touching.
Oh, that's so sweet.
I love that, yeah, and itreally sustained us through that
time and it was so important.
So it really woke me up and Irealized I was missing that kind
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of community in theentrepreneur world, in the
business world, and so I invitedsome other business owners to
lunch one day.
I just thought I'm just goingto try to connect with some
other people in a genuine way,you know, and have some
relationship in my community,some deeper relationship, and so
, to my surprise, 50 businessowners showed up.
Jenn Noble (06:18):
That many.
Yeah, oh my gosh, you couldtell it's a need when that
starts to happen.
Jennifer Henczel (06:23):
Yeah, Exactly Right.
Oh, my gosh, you could tellit's a need when that starts to
happen.
Yeah, exactly Right.
And that that one meetingturned into a group and the
group turned into a network andI ended up with a large business
network with multiple chaptersthroughout my area.
And, you know, it reallybrought my husband and I closer.
We had heard that some peopleget divorced through this
situation, but we became closerand actually I was able to use
my platform to help him go froman injured male worker to an
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international speaker, and so hedid a TED Talk about the
experience called SilencingStigma Through Storytelling and
wrote a book about our story.
That's stunning, yeah.
And so I learned the benefit ofcommunity being part of a
community connection, puttingour health and wellness first.
Stop putting my passions on theback burner and bringing
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everything forward.
And you know what?
That helped me finally take myside gig into my full-time
income, and that was in 2012,.
And I haven't worked for anyonesince.
Jenn Noble (07:19):
I've been so much for sharing your story.
All of it, I think, is soinspirational.
I did get a chance to watchyour husband's TED Talk.
It's so powerful.
If anyone get a chance to goand check it out, I'll stick the
link to the TED Talk in theshow notes so people can look at
it, because I feel like yourstory is so just inspirational
in terms of how the two of yougot together.
But you're so right In thiskind of entrepreneurial world
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it's hustle, hustle, hustle,hustle, isn't it which, in my
understanding, it's just such amasculine thought process.
It's such a you gotta get outthere, you gotta dig deep, you
gotta do all this stuff.
But now that you are thesuccessful business woman, you
are working with othersuccessful business women all of
this time.
What are you finding isactually helpful in these
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situations?
Yes, we do need to hustle alittle bit.
Yes, we do have to work hard,but sometimes that can be
counterproductive, can't it?
Jennifer Henczel (08:11):
Well, yeah, you need to be part of a
community for anything to work.
I found out that you need to bepart of a community.
So, even if you don't want tostart your own community, get
involved in someone else'scommunity and have a giver
approach, not a who's going tobuy from me today, more of a how
can you contribute your giftsto the community and become
really part of that community.
You have to be community-mindedbefore you can start your own
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community anyways, and I foundout that for anyone to help you,
you need to show up to behelped, because there's people
out there who want to supportyou, help you, learn from you,
and there's people out there foryou to learn from, and you need
to get out there and connect.
So, whether it's online or inlive in person, you know that
really makes a difference to belive in person, and that genuine
connection, one-to-oneconnection, and being part of a
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group live in person is reallymakes a big difference, you know
.
But, however, you can be partof a community, get involved and
contribute your gifts andskills.
And you know, I want to offeryour audience to a complimentary
copy of my husband's book Ifyou're interested that would be
lovely.
Jenn Noble (09:10):
Yes, they would love that.
That would be great, yeah.
Jennifer Henczel (09:12):
You can go to innovatorsfm forward slash gifts
and you can get a digital copyof the book there.
And so, along the way, though,we had learned a lot of
different modalities that helpedus as a couple and just helped,
of course, him and his recoveryand so we started our own
podcast, because we werelearning from podcasts a lot,
and so we decided to start ourown podcast together.
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So my first podcast was with myhusband.
We still have it.
It's called Inspiring InnovatorShow, and so we have that show
together.
And then I have the Women inPodcasting Show.
Jenn Noble (09:42):
I love that.
What is it like podcasting withyour husband?
You guys went through thistraumatic situation together,
and I have a lot of listenershere that can barely make it
through dinner together withtheir husbands right now, and so
what would you say is that kindof special spark between the
two of you that allows you tohave these beautiful moments
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together?
Jennifer Henczel (10:03):
The interesting thing is we've known
each other since we were kids,but we didn't get together as a
couple until late 20s.
Jenn Noble (10:10):
Oh cute, I love that .
Jennifer Henczel (10:11):
Yeah, yeah.
So we grew up on parallelstreets, just one block over
from each other, and then asadults we got to know each other
and got married and when thishappened, like I said, it really
blew up our lives, but it alsobrought us closer together and
we learned a lot of modalitiestogether that really bring us
together too.
So, for example, hypnosis,meditation, affirmations,
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gratitude practice is a big one.
And then storytelling was huge,because that really helped him
in his recovery and we foundthat when we told our story, it
encouraged other people to telltheir story, and so that really
brings us together too, becauseit's such a joy to help others
to get their message out, notjust our message.
Jenn Noble (10:52):
Yeah, because that's part so powerful, because if we
hold on to our situations oranything that's going on and
we're not able to speak them out, then they get hidden, and it's
through the power of being ableto voice them where our stories
are told and people can learnfrom them.
And it actually helps us healtoo, doesn't it?
Because it must have been a lot.
People, I'm sure, will oftentalk about the struggle he went
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through with the accident, butwhat they don't often talk about
is the struggle the spouse, theperson that goes through, to
have to watch him go through allof that and have to be through
all of that, and so for you tobe his rock, for you to be there
for him, that must have been sodifficult but, at the same time
, probably so powerful.
Jennifer Henczel (11:31):
Exactly.
Yes, that exact combination forsure.
Jenn Noble (11:37):
Yeah, now tell me, let me get my timeline together
with the accident, and then youstarting your own business.
Was that around the same timeor were they years apart?
Jennifer Henczel (11:43):
It was maybe about a year and a half in.
Okay, it happened.
So, yeah, so it was a bit of aprogression.
So I was helping him.
You know I was working fulltime, so it was really tough
because he needed a lot of help,so we would have someone come
to the house and help him andyou know it was all a struggle
but we got through it, you know.
And then for me to be able tohave my own business and have
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that freedom, the time freedomto be able to take care of him
better a year and a half in thenit really made a big difference
, because then I had time formyself as well and we both put
our self-care first instead ofputting our health at the back.
You know, putting it last, weput it first, and things like
that.
That really made a bigdifference.
Jenn Noble (12:23):
That part is so important your self-care, your
health, all of that stuff, likereally being able to put that
first, because if the two of youcan also have your personal
time, then you're going to showup better as a couple, aren't
you?
Jennifer Henczel (12:36):
Yes, exactly, yeah, and I think that's
beautiful.
Jenn Noble (12:39):
Can you tell me about a time when there was a
struggle because you're busywith the business and you're
doing all of this stuff andmaybe there's a disconnect
happening?
How did the two of you findeach other again during that
time?
We would chip away at things.
Jennifer Henczel (12:54):
Like I said, when we were bringing on these
new modalities, it would help alot.
So visualization was a big onefor us.
When we were really feelingdown, we would look at what are
our plans for the future and tryto focus on the present and the
future rather than dwell on thestuff.
So we've made a very consciouschoice.
When we were in public, wewould talk about the story and
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the overcoming and you know, thegoing from surviving to
thriving and things like that.
So, for example, anyone who'sbeen in an accident knows
there's other struggles withinsurance, workplaces and things
like that, and I won't go intoit as a lot of people get
divorced over, you know, becausethat's probably the biggest
divisive factor.
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But we chose not to talk aboutthose things and we chose to
focus on the positive, not justin each other, but even in
everything we did.
We would try to focus on thepositive and it was really hard
to do that.
It is much easier to dwell, youknow, on so many things that
are coming at you than to staypositive.
It was actually a struggle, butit turned out better because it
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became a practice and it'sbecome our life, and I'm so glad
we did that.
I don't even know what drove usat the time to stick to that
and really force ourselves Likewe were vigilant.
We had to be vigilant about it.
Jenn Noble (14:12):
Oh, so you had to, like, work hard.
It's not like, oh hey, let's dothis thing and then like no one
ever actually picks it up ordoes anything or whatnot, like
you put the work in.
I think that part is soimportant.
It's like we're vigilant, we'redoing the thing.
You know, I saw this reallycool quote the other day.
That was you could throw abucket of water on a rock and
you'll have a clean rock.
Or if you drop a small tinydrop of water on that rock
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consistently over years, you canactually create a hole in that
rock.
Jennifer Henczel (14:40):
Oh wow, that's exactly it.
Jenn Noble (14:42):
And it's that visualization of what you guys
were doing.
There's no big, you know,profession of love or whatever
it is and, like all of thisstuff you're going to work on,
it was the daily decision thatyou guys were going to do this
together.
Yes, and you came out on theother side and I just, I love
that so much, yeah.
So tell me a little bit moreabout this podcasters awards,
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because while all of this stuffyou have working with your
husband and all these, you knowthe couple stuff that you have,
but your heart seems to be forwomen.
So tell me how, like, where didthat come from?
Why not all podcasters?
Like, where did that passioncome from?
Jennifer Henczel (15:18):
Yeah, so I just I really had a joy to
connect with other womenpodcasters and when I started,
there wasn't nearly as manywomen podcasters as there is now
.
It's really grown.
So in 2019, 2020, when Istarted podcasting, I had been
learning too, by the way, for 10, just as a side note.
For 10 years, I had beenlearning too, by the way, for 10
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, just as a side note.
For 10 years I had beenlearning and I didn't.
I finally finally did it around2019, 2020, in that time zone
and so, and then for the nextfew years after that.
So there was only 1 millionpodcasts at that time.
Okay, in 2019.
Jenn Noble (15:52):
Wow, really that's it.
Jennifer Henczel (15:54):
Yeah, and now there's I didn't that's so fun,
yeah, yeah.
And now it, yeah, yeah.
And now there's.
I didn't that's so fun, yeah,yeah.
And now there's over.
Now there's over five million.
That's wild.
And there was hardly any womenpodcasters then, you know, in
comparison to the last, oh,absolutely and so now there's
lots of women podcasters andthere's over five million
podcasts, so there's still lotsof room to grow.
But there's also thelistenership has gone way up and
and so the demand forpodcasters.
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There's still lots of room togrow and to have new shows.
It's not saturated at all.
There's still lots ofopportunity, and so it's such a
thrill for me to connect withother women podcasters,
especially at that time and thenso for me to be able to see it
grow like that and to contributeto the increase of women
podcasters in the industry.
It's just so thrilling, and somy mission is to elevate women's
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voices globally and in thepodcasting industry, and so
thank you so much for being partof that and for being a nominee
in the awards.
I made it a people's choicestyle of awards so that it can
be engaging and it's actually acommunity building tool so
podcasters can take that andrally their listeners and engage
their listeners, and you knowyour listeners want to vote for
you.
Jenn Noble (16:59):
Yeah, they really do .
I mean, they become part ofyour family.
You mentioned earlier aboutcommunity and, as you were
talking about like needing acommunity, I just kept thinking
about, like my ladies, the womenthat I have that listen and
they reach out to me and emailand they say this thing you said
right here.
I put it on, you know, mywindow today on my car or
whatever it was, or the Facebookgroup that I have as well, and
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the women are in there and theyjust they lift each other up.
The other day I do this groupcoaching program as well, and
the other day these ladies juststarted lifting each other up.
They just started talking toeach other and I just kind of
I'm the coach, I'm supposed tobe there helping them, and I
just kind of sat back like Idon't even have to work anymore,
like like we all have it in us,you know, and when we bring
that community together, we alllift up and I love saying all
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boats rise with the tide.
And so, even though this istechnically a competition, you
know, for the podcast and pleasego vote for me, please the link
is in the show notes I reallywant to win this.
Go vote for me, I'm not gonnalie.
At the same time, go check outthe other podcasts from these
women, because I started lookingat the nominees and I've gotten
into some of their podcasts.
And that's the best thing aboutpodcasting is?
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You're right, it's notoversaturated at all.
How many of us listen to?
You know 20 different radiostations.
When we're driving in a car,you can listen to dozens of
podcasts throughout the day andthroughout the week, and you can
follow a podcast here and maybecatch up with it once a month.
You can listen to itreligiously every week, it
doesn't matter, and so just getout there and keep doing it, and
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thank you for bringing that upSuch a good point.
Jennifer Henczel (18:27):
Oh, you're doing such a great job and I
hope people vote for you becausethis is an opportunity Even
just being a nominee is a greatopportunity to elevate your
voice and to increase yourvisibility, and so I'm so
excited that you're in theawards.
And you know, it's justeverything I do at the core is
connection and community.
Now, after what we went through, it's just so important to me,
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you know, because I found outthat people will help you if you
show up to be helped.
Jenn Noble (18:54):
Ooh, I love that People will help you if you show
up to be helped.
I think that's a powerful line.
Now, what would you say tosomeone who's listening right
now and they're like I want tostart a podcast.
Like you sat on it for 10 years, jen.
Like you were like, yes, Iwanted to start.
I remember for me, I've had adream to have a podcast for as
long as I could remember, aslong as I've been listening to
podcasts.
I'm very addicted to podcastsand I have wanted to do one so
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much that I did.
I'm back in college right now.
I'm going to school forpsychology to get my degree and
all this stuff and one of myschool projects.
I convinced the teacher to letme start a podcast because I
thought it'll get it under mybelt.
And then that's how this allkind of started and I bought
like my cute little mic and Iworked with my classmates and I
got all together and I got thebug and I figured out, okay, I
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want to do this.
And then I had no idea what thefuck I was doing and I was just
like talking into a mic,pretending like I knew what I
was happening, trying to edit iton my own and I didn't know
anything.
So do you ever help people withstarting podcasts, or do you?
What would you recommend tothem to do to really just get
over that?
Jennifer Henczel (19:55):
hump.
Just take the leap.
You know, take the leap.
Just, even if you just haveyour phone, you don't need fancy
equipment.
That's one of the things is, Istarted with a less expensive
mic and I graduated up, up up.
I've had more expensive micsthan this and then I came back
down to this.
One's not that expensive but Ifind it better than some of the
other mics.
So, you know, don't make theequipment a barrier to just
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starting.
Take the leap.
You know, when I was 50, I wentskydiving when I turned 50.
That's fantastic.
And when you know, it was mychoice to go right and so I was
going up in the plane, I wasdoing fine until we got to the
top and people started rollingout of the plane, which you
don't normally see on a plane,right?
Jenn Noble (20:37):
Let's hope not at least Exactly.
Jennifer Henczel (20:40):
And then it was our turn.
We nudged towards the door, Iwas tethered to somebody, but he
was letting me kind of decide,and so we had to stand on a
stair on the outside of theplane.
So just imagine standing on astair on the outside of a moving
plane, 10,000 feet up.
Jenn Noble (20:53):
No Continue.
Jennifer Henczel (20:56):
Yeah, well, that moment on this was
terrifying because I looked out,I could see the horizon, the
view was terrifying.
But then we took the leap andfor the first few seconds it
feels like you're falling.
It's very terrifying.
But then you take the position.
After three to five seconds itjust feels like floating and
flying.
I don't know if you knew thatabout skydiving.
I did not know that at all.
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I didn't know that either untilit happened right.
And then the view becamespectacular, and then every
minute, every second was amazing, beautiful, wonderful, just
incredible.
I landed safely and it was themost amazing experience of my
life, and so I constantly, everyday, I'm reminded.
Hey, it's most fearful rightbefore the leap, but if you can
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just take that leap, there is somuch beauty on the other side
and telling your story is justthe most beautiful experience.
It really helped us.
It helped us through the wholeprocess and the whole
rehabilitation.
Jenn Noble (21:55):
But you're right, it's so scary to start.
You're going to have thesedoubts in your head.
Who wants to listen to me?
Who do I think I am?
Why would anyone actuallylisten to this thing?
But even if just one or twopeople listen to your story, you
know, even if you just get out,like you know, pop out 20
podcasts and you call it a day,I've listened, I've found
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podcasts, you know, on Apple.
I usually listen on Apple andand I'll find a podcast.
And I saw, okay, she only putout like 20 episodes and I see
she kind of stopped, but those20 episodes still made an impact
in my life in those moments.
And that's what it's about ispodcasting.
You get to have your story outthere and it gets to stay.
Unlike social media, you put astory out, you put a reel out.
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Within hours people are movingon to the next thing, that's
true, but this is such abeautiful opportunity to get out
there and, like you said, yougotta take that first step.
Also, this is such a beautifulopportunity to get out there and
, like you said, you got to takethat first step.
Also, by the way, can I justsay you should do like marketing
for skydiving, because never inmy life have I ever wanted to
skydive and you almost got methere.
So like I was like, oh, thisactually sounds really good.
(23:00):
Maybe now I could try it in acouple of years.
But you're right, that firstleap, that first podcast that
you put out there, that firstanything that is that you do,
just get it out there, have itbe in perfect progress.
It's what it's all about.
What was it like for youstarting up your podcast, doing
your first episode, putting itout there?
Did you put one episode out andthen kind of test the waters?
(23:21):
Did you bank a bunch and thenkind of slowly drip them out one
at a time?
Do you remember at all what youdid?
Jennifer Henczel (23:27):
Yeah, the recommendation even then was
have at least five episodesready to roll, so that you can
either roll them out one dayafter the other or all at once.
Just have five up there, andthen you can keep some ready to
go so that you can then startproducing them and have them out
more consistently.
Jenn Noble (23:43):
Yeah, I really like banking episodes Like I like
trying to do them in advance.
I mean, you know, just to pullthe curtain back, for example,
what it's a April 24th right now, and then who's ever listening
to this?
When it comes out, you're goingto see how, like early on, we
actually recorded this, butit'll come out, you know,
probably in a week or two andthat kind of working it out that
way.
(24:03):
You know, that way people don'tthink like, oh my God, like are
they just doing like everysingle week?
Are they doing this?
I was like no, sometimes wejust sit down, do a whole bunch.
You know, I'll probablyinterview someone else, like
later on tomorrow I bank a bunchand then I put them out and you
can make it work for howeveryou want.
Versus.
I do have a friend.
She has a podcast and she'slike no, I sit down like the day
before I record it, I send itout to my editor and that's it.
(24:26):
I put it up and she's like Icould never do it like baked,
like you do, jen.
So, like anything, do ithowever it is that works best
for you.
Yes, but do it?
Jennifer Henczel (24:36):
Yeah, do it.
It's got to fit your lifestyleand you got to feel aligned with
it, with how the format, likeyou're saying you know, and so
we started, for example, everyweek, and that just didn't work
for us with our lifestyle, andso I use a podcast a little bit
differently.
I have events, for example,quarterly events, where I have
my members from the WomenPodcasters Network and I'll
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feature them so that people knowabout women's podcasts, right?
So I'll have a whole bunch 20to 40 women talking about their
podcasts and I'll release thoseepisodes.
That's just one example.
I'll have different kinds ofthings like that throughout the
year, so I don't necessarilyrelease one definitively every
week.
But when I started, you know,years ago, when I started
learning, it was where you hadto.
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You know your podcast had to beexactly, you know whatever.
It was 45 minutes long and ithad to be this, that and the
other thing.
And you don't have to do thatanymore.
You can use it however you want.
I know people who have reallysuccessful podcasts that are
five minutes, right, and thenyou know.
So it just depends on youraudience.
The main thing is to know youraudience.
You know who is your audience,who's your ideal listener and
(25:38):
craft a show.
Pretend you're talking to them.
Jenn Noble (25:40):
Oh, I love that and you know, someone gave me this
tip too.
So, in terms of knowing youraudience, but also the other
direction, do what makes youhappy and your audience will
find you.
So if you're the type of personthat just wants to randomly
throw out five minute episodesthis week on a Wednesday, the
next week on the Thursday, likewhatever, if it's bringing you
joy, then like you're going tofind your following.
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Now there are probably top tipsout there.
You know, if you want tomonetize it, if you want to do
this, if you want to do that,but at the same time, you know,
just do what's sustainable foryou, like the dripping of the
rock.
You did what's best for you.
If you thought you had to do itevery week and this is what you
have to do you probably stillwouldn't be where you are.
Jennifer Henczel (26:19):
Yeah, exactly.
Jenn Noble (26:20):
That would be a disservice to the entire
podcasting community, becausewhat you do is such a beautiful
thing, and so I'm so glad thatyou figured out what works best
for you.
I love that so much.
Jennifer Henczel (26:30):
It is more flexible now than you know when
it first started, or even 10years ago.
Jenn Noble (26:36):
Yeah, Some people even just do stories.
I mean, we've seen that evenwith like the big dogs, you know
, like cereal and stuff likethat, like they literally just
come.
It's like you're watchingNetflix you come in, you tell a
story and then you bounce andthat's it.
But it lives out there forever.
It's your story.
So maybe you have something youwant to share, maybe you have
something on your heart andmaybe you just want to put 10
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episodes together and you wantto share it from start to finish
.
This is my life.
Maybe it's an experience ofskydiving.
Then you want to talk abouttraining and then going up and
then the next episode is gettingout and the next episode's
landing.
But that's your baby that yougot to put out there in the
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world and I say just do it.
And to anyone out there that isdoes, let's say they have a
podcast, they are a woman,they're out there, they're
listening.
You know I have friends andthey're all that.
Tell me a little bit more abouthow they can get nominated, how
can they join the awards in thefuture and how can they support
this amazing community thatyou've been growing.
Jennifer Henczel (27:34):
Oh well, thank you so much.
Well, and the other thing toois I was able to monetize from
day one.
Even though I don't have sortof a traditional format, I'm
still able to monetize.
So you can monetize it, you canuse it.
You can use it for your ownpurposes, and so, for anyone who
wants to know more about this,you can go to womenpodcasterscom
, and if you are a podcaster ora broadcaster or a producer or
(27:58):
even an expert guest, you can goto womenpodcasterscom.
Forward slash awards.
You have a few more days.
I'm not sure when you'rereleasing this.
The nominations are open untilApril 30th and voting starts
from May 1st to the end of May,and then the winners are
announced June 25th.
So I hope everybody votes foryour show.
Jenn Noble (28:17):
Thank you.
Yes, please go vote for SpeakHonest, please.
I am up there.
You can go give me a vote.
It's one vote per person, I'massuming.
Yes, yeah, okay, great, so goget your vote in.
You have all month of May.
This will probably be going outin May, so the nominations will
be closed, but I'm assumingyou're going to do this again
next year, right?
Jennifer Henczel (28:33):
Yes, so we do it every year.
Last year was our inauguralyear actually.
Oh fantastic, congrats, thankyou.
Yeah, it went so well, had over15,000 votes, but on top of
that, the most wonderful thingwas that the podcasting industry
really embraced it and reallysupported me.
I had some top people from thepodcasting industry come and
support the Women PodcastersAwards, so it's well supported.
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It's well distributed.
We're in all kinds of media allover the place and everything,
so you get a lot of visibility.
Jenn Noble (29:01):
I got recommended to go and look you guys up and it
was my marketing director thathelped me, like with this.
And so, yeah, no, youdefinitely are out there.
You're getting out there.
I say if someone is evenlistening, because, as we talked
about, podcasts live forever,so I can imagine someone's going
to, you know, google or whatnot, like women podcasters awards.
If you're listening to thislater on and you want to be
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nominated, you want to go outthere, you want to learn more
about it.
Like, just go out there, justgo take that first leap.
You know it's scary, it'suncomfortable.
You know there's a part of methat's like why would I be
nominated?
Why should I throw my hat inthe ring?
Who am I?
I'm a nobody, and it's like youknow what?
No, we're going to cut that outnow.
Ladies, we are everything, weare everybody, we are everyone
(29:42):
and we're all going to lift eachother up.
So go vote and you know what?
Vote for your favorite podcast,not even just for me, because,
all again, like I said, allthese other ladies podcasts,
they're amazing.
Go find some great stuff tolisten to and lift each other up
.
Lift up these other women aswell.
So thank you so much, jen, forcoming on the podcast today.
Is there anything else you wantto leave us with before we wrap
(30:03):
up?
Jennifer Henczel (30:03):
today.
Well, I just want to say it'ssuch a joy to connect with you
and meet with you today.
This is why I do this is toconnect with people like you who
are just doing such amazingwork, and I just enjoy hanging
out with you.
I enjoy having you in the group.
You're so great at connectingwith people and you're right,
you know all of our nominees arelisted on the website, so
people can go look and they canlook up a whole bunch of
(30:25):
different kinds of shows andthere's different categories too
, so they can vote for you inone category and they can vote
for a bunch of other podcasts indifferent categories if they
want.
Jenn Noble (30:33):
Oh, that's right.
You have all the differentcategories and you have to do
that.
So go check out some of themand then go vote for your other
ones, because, again, the morewe lift each other up, the more
we all get to rise with the tide, and that's what it's all about
.
Well, thank you so much, jen,for coming on and I can't wait
to hang out with you later.
I just adore you and I hope youhave a beautiful day.
Oh, thank you so much.
Take care, bye, bye.
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I am so glad I got anopportunity to talk with Jen.
She is just so inspirational.
She is someone I look up to.
She is a businesswoman kickingass, taking names, and it means
so much to be a part of hercommunity.
Now I have met so many otheramazing women podcasters.
I feel like it's reallyleveling me up personally, as
(31:17):
both a podcaster and a coach,just to be amongst these amazing
women.
And again, I just want to say,if you have the opportunity,
could you please, please, pleasego and vote for Speak Honest.
Go ahead and scroll on down tothe show notes.
There's a link.
You want to find me in thepersonal development category of
the Podcasters Awards andyou're going to click on Speak
(31:38):
Honest, send me a vote and then,if you can take a screen cap,
drop it in the Facebook group.
Tell us that you voted and youwill be entered to win a free
coaching call with me, becauseit's my way of saying thank you
so much for supporting thispodcast.
It means the world to me.
It truly does.
It actually could get me alittle bit emotional if I start
thinking about it for too long,because this has been my dream.
(31:59):
Thank you for listening, thankyou for being here and always.
I will talk to you next weekUntil being here and always.
I will talk to you next week.
Until then, take care, as wewrap up today's conversation,
always remember that healing isa journey, not a destination,
and it is an honor to be a partof your healing journey.
If you want to dig deeper intothe topics we covered today, be
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sure to head over to our shownotes, where you can find all of
the valuable informationmentioned in today's episode.
Right, we'll see you next time.
Hello and welcome to Speak Honest.
I am your host and certifiedrelationship coach, jennifer
Noble.
It has been my passion for overa decade to help women like you
heal what's been holding youback from having the
relationships you deserve.
Are you struggling with arelationship where you can't
seem to voice your emotions,needs and boundaries without
(00:26):
having it blow up in your face?
Then you have found the rightpodcast, my friend.
Get ready for practical tips,empowering truths and honest
conversations.
Now let's dive in.
Hello everyone and welcome backto another episode of Speak
Honest.
I am Jen Noble, your go-torelationship coach, and on
today's podcast, I have aspecial guest.
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Today I have Jennifer Henseljoining us Now.
Jennifer Henczel is a podcaster,author and founder of the
Inspiring Innovators Club andthe Women Podcasters Network
show and awards.
It is Jennifer's mission tolift women's voices and stories
globally.
So you can imagine why I lovedhaving her on the show, both
(01:07):
because her name is fantastic,obviously, but also because it's
her goal to lift women's voices.
Jennifer is known for herability to build thriving,
supportive and collaborativecommunities, and she teaches
others how to do the same.
She loves creatingopportunities for women to
connect and collaborate inmeaningful ways, and I myself
actually am getting a chance tocollaborate with Jen because I
(01:30):
have been nominated for a WomenPodcasters Award.
Yay, I'm so excited.
I feel so honored to benominated for this award, and
what I want to talk to you abouttoday is getting your support.
So if you are listening to thisand it is between May 1st and
May 31st 2025, I'm just doublechecking because you know, maybe
(01:52):
you're listening to this yearslater If you could, please do me
the biggest favor scroll ondown to the show notes and click
on the link that says vote forSpeak Honest.
I want you to vote for SpeakHonest.
I want you to vote for SpeakHonest, please.
It would mean the world to meso much right now because it'd
be such an honor to be able towin this award.
(02:13):
I am in the personaldevelopment category, so when
you click on the link, you'regoing to go down, you're going
to scroll through.
You can vote for any of theother podcasts as well, but the
one you want to click on ispersonal development and speak
honest.
If you could do that, you wouldmake me so happy and, if you
get a chance, if you want to goahead and take a screen cap of
(02:33):
your vote and drop it in theFacebook group or email it to me
.
Then I will put you in therunning for a free coaching call
.
It means the world to me thatyou all are going out to the
support and I want to give backto that as well, and anyone that
votes is going to be enteredinto a drawing for a free 60
minute coaching call with me.
Thank you so much for yoursupport and again, as you're
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listening to my conversationwith Jen, I just want you to
really be thinking about wherein your own life can you take
this big leap to start something?
So Jen's story is so incrediblyinspirational.
What she went through with herhusband, what she's done to
build her own business it is allinspiring, and so I want you to
listen to this episode andreally just keep in mind.
(03:17):
Where could you be followingyour passions?
Where could you be creatingopportunities to lift others'
voices?
All right, I hope you enjoythis conversation with Jen, all
right?
So I am joined today withJennifer Hensel and I am so
excited to have Jen on thepodcast today because Jen is the
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founder of Women PodcastersAward and Network and I myself
am a nominee in the WomenPodcasters Award this year, so
excited about that.
But first and foremost, jen,tell us a little bit about
yourself.
Jennifer Henczel (03:49):
Oh, thank you so much for having me.
I really love being here withyou today on your show.
So I founded the WomenPodcasters Network and the Women
Podcasters Awards and you're inthere and I hope people vote
for you because you're doing anamazing job with your show.
You are a perfect example ofsomeone having a podcast and you
know, a podcast is all aboutdisplaying your expertise and
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helping people and building acommunity around your message,
and you're doing so well at that.
So I really appreciateconnecting with you.
Thank you so much for that.
Yeah, I appreciate connectingwith you through the awards.
It's just my joy to connectwith other women podcasters.
And you know, for many years Iwas running my part-time
business on the side and workinga full-time job, and it just
(04:32):
seemed like success was alwaysaround the corner.
I was always trying to turn myside gig into my full-time
income, you know.
And so one day I was at myfull-time job and I got a phone
call that nobody wants toreceive and it was my husband's
boss and he said you've got tocome to the hospital right away
and my husband had been in aterrible accident at work.
And I got there to the hospitalall the way to the hospital I
was thinking I'm not going tolose my best friend today, and I
(04:56):
was really terrified because Ididn't know what was happening.
At that point I had very littleinformation.
I got there I didn't evenrecognize him.
He had been crushed bythousands of pounds of wood oh
my gosh, yeah.
So you know he survivedThankfully he survived, and it
was many years of recovery.
He still is left with somepermanent injuries.
You know, it really blew up ourlife, but at the same time it
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kind of ignited something in me,in both of us, to pursue our
passions more, because you know,many years I was really burning
myself out.
I was working 12, 14, 16 hoursa day in hustle mode.
I was in a very competitivehustle mindset and this whole
experience really changed mywhole outlook.
And so what happened was one ofthe things that really impacted
(05:40):
me was the communities that myhusband was involved in.
At the time he was a volunteerfootball coach and announcer in
our community and footballplayers and coaches would come
around and say we're here foryou, coach Paul.
It was really touching.
Oh, that's so sweet.
I love that, yeah, and itreally sustained us through that
time and it was so important.
So it really woke me up and Irealized I was missing that kind
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of community in theentrepreneur world, in the
business world, and so I invitedsome other business owners to
lunch one day.
I just thought I'm just goingto try to connect with some
other people in a genuine way,you know, and have some
relationship in my community,some deeper relationship, and so
, to my surprise, 50 businessowners showed up.
Jenn Noble (06:18):
That many.
Yeah, oh my gosh, you couldtell it's a need when that
starts to happen.
Jennifer Henczel (06:23):
Yeah, Exactly Right.
Oh, my gosh, you could tellit's a need when that starts to
happen.
Yeah, exactly Right.
And that that one meetingturned into a group and the
group turned into a network andI ended up with a large business
network with multiple chaptersthroughout my area.
And, you know, it reallybrought my husband and I closer.
We had heard that some peopleget divorced through this
situation, but we became closerand actually I was able to use
my platform to help him go froman injured male worker to an
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international speaker, and so hedid a TED Talk about the
experience called SilencingStigma Through Storytelling and
wrote a book about our story.
That's stunning, yeah.
And so I learned the benefit ofcommunity being part of a
community connection, puttingour health and wellness first.
Stop putting my passions on theback burner and bringing
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everything forward.
And you know what?
That helped me finally take myside gig into my full-time
income, and that was in 2012,.
And I haven't worked for anyonesince.
Jenn Noble (07:19):
I've been so much for sharing your story.
All of it, I think, is soinspirational.
I did get a chance to watchyour husband's TED Talk.
It's so powerful.
If anyone get a chance to goand check it out, I'll stick the
link to the TED Talk in theshow notes so people can look at
it, because I feel like yourstory is so just inspirational
in terms of how the two of yougot together.
But you're so right In thiskind of entrepreneurial world
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it's hustle, hustle, hustle,hustle, isn't it which, in my
understanding, it's just such amasculine thought process.
It's such a you gotta get outthere, you gotta dig deep, you
gotta do all this stuff.
But now that you are thesuccessful business woman, you
are working with othersuccessful business women all of
this time.
What are you finding isactually helpful in these
(08:05):
situations?
Yes, we do need to hustle alittle bit.
Yes, we do have to work hard,but sometimes that can be
counterproductive, can't it?
Jennifer Henczel (08:11):
Well, yeah, you need to be part of a
community for anything to work.
I found out that you need to bepart of a community.
So, even if you don't want tostart your own community, get
involved in someone else'scommunity and have a giver
approach, not a who's going tobuy from me today, more of a how
can you contribute your giftsto the community and become
really part of that community.
You have to be community-mindedbefore you can start your own
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community anyways, and I foundout that for anyone to help you,
you need to show up to behelped, because there's people
out there who want to supportyou, help you, learn from you,
and there's people out there foryou to learn from, and you need
to get out there and connect.
So, whether it's online or inlive in person, you know that
really makes a difference to belive in person, and that genuine
connection, one-to-oneconnection, and being part of a
(08:54):
group live in person is reallymakes a big difference, you know
.
But, however, you can be partof a community, get involved and
contribute your gifts andskills.
And you know, I want to offeryour audience to a complimentary
copy of my husband's book Ifyou're interested that would be
lovely.
Jenn Noble (09:10):
Yes, they would love that.
That would be great, yeah.
Jennifer Henczel (09:12):
You can go to innovatorsfm forward slash gifts
and you can get a digital copyof the book there.
And so, along the way, though,we had learned a lot of
different modalities that helpedus as a couple and just helped,
of course, him and his recoveryand so we started our own
podcast, because we werelearning from podcasts a lot,
and so we decided to start ourown podcast together.
(09:33):
So my first podcast was with myhusband.
We still have it.
It's called Inspiring InnovatorShow, and so we have that show
together.
And then I have the Women inPodcasting Show.
Jenn Noble (09:42):
I love that.
What is it like podcasting withyour husband?
You guys went through thistraumatic situation together,
and I have a lot of listenershere that can barely make it
through dinner together withtheir husbands right now, and so
what would you say is that kindof special spark between the
two of you that allows you tohave these beautiful moments
(10:03):
together?
Jennifer Henczel (10:03):
The interesting thing is we've known
each other since we were kids,but we didn't get together as a
couple until late 20s.
Jenn Noble (10:10):
Oh cute, I love that .
Jennifer Henczel (10:11):
Yeah, yeah.
So we grew up on parallelstreets, just one block over
from each other, and then asadults we got to know each other
and got married and when thishappened, like I said, it really
blew up our lives, but it alsobrought us closer together and
we learned a lot of modalitiestogether that really bring us
together too.
So, for example, hypnosis,meditation, affirmations,
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gratitude practice is a big one.
And then storytelling was huge,because that really helped him
in his recovery and we foundthat when we told our story, it
encouraged other people to telltheir story, and so that really
brings us together too, becauseit's such a joy to help others
to get their message out, notjust our message.
Jenn Noble (10:52):
Yeah, because that's part so powerful, because if we
hold on to our situations oranything that's going on and
we're not able to speak them out, then they get hidden, and it's
through the power of being ableto voice them where our stories
are told and people can learnfrom them.
And it actually helps us healtoo, doesn't it?
Because it must have been a lot.
People, I'm sure, will oftentalk about the struggle he went
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through with the accident, butwhat they don't often talk about
is the struggle the spouse, theperson that goes through, to
have to watch him go through allof that and have to be through
all of that, and so for you tobe his rock, for you to be there
for him, that must have been sodifficult but, at the same time
, probably so powerful.
Jennifer Henczel (11:31):
Exactly.
Yes, that exact combination forsure.
Jenn Noble (11:37):
Yeah, now tell me, let me get my timeline together
with the accident, and then youstarting your own business.
Was that around the same timeor were they years apart?
Jennifer Henczel (11:43):
It was maybe about a year and a half in.
Okay, it happened.
So, yeah, so it was a bit of aprogression.
So I was helping him.
You know I was working fulltime, so it was really tough
because he needed a lot of help,so we would have someone come
to the house and help him andyou know it was all a struggle
but we got through it, you know.
And then for me to be able tohave my own business and have
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that freedom, the time freedomto be able to take care of him
better a year and a half in thenit really made a big difference
, because then I had time formyself as well and we both put
our self-care first instead ofputting our health at the back.
You know, putting it last, weput it first, and things like
that.
That really made a bigdifference.
Jenn Noble (12:23):
That part is so important your self-care, your
health, all of that stuff, likereally being able to put that
first, because if the two of youcan also have your personal
time, then you're going to showup better as a couple, aren't
you?
Jennifer Henczel (12:36):
Yes, exactly, yeah, and I think that's
beautiful.
Jenn Noble (12:39):
Can you tell me about a time when there was a
struggle because you're busywith the business and you're
doing all of this stuff andmaybe there's a disconnect
happening?
How did the two of you findeach other again during that
time?
We would chip away at things.
Jennifer Henczel (12:54):
Like I said, when we were bringing on these
new modalities, it would help alot.
So visualization was a big onefor us.
When we were really feelingdown, we would look at what are
our plans for the future and tryto focus on the present and the
future rather than dwell on thestuff.
So we've made a very consciouschoice.
When we were in public, wewould talk about the story and
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the overcoming and you know, thegoing from surviving to
thriving and things like that.
So, for example, anyone who'sbeen in an accident knows
there's other struggles withinsurance, workplaces and things
like that, and I won't go intoit as a lot of people get
divorced over, you know, becausethat's probably the biggest
divisive factor.
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But we chose not to talk aboutthose things and we chose to
focus on the positive, not justin each other, but even in
everything we did.
We would try to focus on thepositive and it was really hard
to do that.
It is much easier to dwell, youknow, on so many things that
are coming at you than to staypositive.
It was actually a struggle, butit turned out better because it
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became a practice and it'sbecome our life, and I'm so glad
we did that.
I don't even know what drove usat the time to stick to that
and really force ourselves Likewe were vigilant.
We had to be vigilant about it.
Jenn Noble (14:12):
Oh, so you had to, like, work hard.
It's not like, oh hey, let's dothis thing and then like no one
ever actually picks it up ordoes anything or whatnot, like
you put the work in.
I think that part is soimportant.
It's like we're vigilant, we'redoing the thing.
You know, I saw this reallycool quote the other day.
That was you could throw abucket of water on a rock and
you'll have a clean rock.
Or if you drop a small tinydrop of water on that rock
(14:36):
consistently over years, you canactually create a hole in that
rock.
Jennifer Henczel (14:40):
Oh wow, that's exactly it.
Jenn Noble (14:42):
And it's that visualization of what you guys
were doing.
There's no big, you know,profession of love or whatever
it is and, like all of thisstuff you're going to work on,
it was the daily decision thatyou guys were going to do this
together.
Yes, and you came out on theother side and I just, I love
that so much, yeah.
So tell me a little bit moreabout this podcasters awards,
(15:04):
because while all of this stuffyou have working with your
husband and all these, you knowthe couple stuff that you have,
but your heart seems to be forwomen.
So tell me how, like, where didthat come from?
Why not all podcasters?
Like, where did that passioncome from?
Jennifer Henczel (15:18):
Yeah, so I just I really had a joy to
connect with other womenpodcasters and when I started,
there wasn't nearly as manywomen podcasters as there is now
.
It's really grown.
So in 2019, 2020, when Istarted podcasting, I had been
learning too, by the way, for 10, just as a side note.
For 10 years, I had beenlearning too, by the way, for 10
(15:39):
, just as a side note.
For 10 years I had beenlearning and I didn't.
I finally finally did it around2019, 2020, in that time zone
and so, and then for the nextfew years after that.
So there was only 1 millionpodcasts at that time.
Okay, in 2019.
Jenn Noble (15:52):
Wow, really that's it.
Jennifer Henczel (15:54):
Yeah, and now there's I didn't that's so fun,
yeah, yeah.
And now it, yeah, yeah.
And now there's.
I didn't that's so fun, yeah,yeah.
And now there's over.
Now there's over five million.
That's wild.
And there was hardly any womenpodcasters then, you know, in
comparison to the last, oh,absolutely and so now there's
lots of women podcasters andthere's over five million
podcasts, so there's still lotsof room to grow.
But there's also thelistenership has gone way up and
and so the demand forpodcasters.
(16:16):
There's still lots of room togrow and to have new shows.
It's not saturated at all.
There's still lots ofopportunity, and so it's such a
thrill for me to connect withother women podcasters,
especially at that time and thenso for me to be able to see it
grow like that and to contributeto the increase of women
podcasters in the industry.
It's just so thrilling, and somy mission is to elevate women's
(16:42):
voices globally and in thepodcasting industry, and so
thank you so much for being partof that and for being a nominee
in the awards.
I made it a people's choicestyle of awards so that it can
be engaging and it's actually acommunity building tool so
podcasters can take that andrally their listeners and engage
their listeners, and you knowyour listeners want to vote for
you.
Jenn Noble (16:59):
Yeah, they really do .
I mean, they become part ofyour family.
You mentioned earlier aboutcommunity and, as you were
talking about like needing acommunity, I just kept thinking
about, like my ladies, the womenthat I have that listen and
they reach out to me and emailand they say this thing you said
right here.
I put it on, you know, mywindow today on my car or
whatever it was, or the Facebookgroup that I have as well, and
(17:20):
the women are in there and theyjust they lift each other up.
The other day I do this groupcoaching program as well, and
the other day these ladies juststarted lifting each other up.
They just started talking toeach other and I just kind of
I'm the coach, I'm supposed tobe there helping them, and I
just kind of sat back like Idon't even have to work anymore,
like like we all have it in us,you know, and when we bring
that community together, we alllift up and I love saying all
(17:43):
boats rise with the tide.
And so, even though this istechnically a competition, you
know, for the podcast and pleasego vote for me, please the link
is in the show notes I reallywant to win this.
Go vote for me, I'm not gonnalie.
At the same time, go check outthe other podcasts from these
women, because I started lookingat the nominees and I've gotten
into some of their podcasts.
And that's the best thing aboutpodcasting is?
(18:04):
You're right, it's notoversaturated at all.
How many of us listen to?
You know 20 different radiostations.
When we're driving in a car,you can listen to dozens of
podcasts throughout the day andthroughout the week, and you can
follow a podcast here and maybecatch up with it once a month.
You can listen to itreligiously every week, it
doesn't matter, and so just getout there and keep doing it, and
(18:25):
thank you for bringing that upSuch a good point.
Jennifer Henczel (18:27):
Oh, you're doing such a great job and I
hope people vote for you becausethis is an opportunity Even
just being a nominee is a greatopportunity to elevate your
voice and to increase yourvisibility, and so I'm so
excited that you're in theawards.
And you know, it's justeverything I do at the core is
connection and community.
Now, after what we went through, it's just so important to me,
(18:50):
you know, because I found outthat people will help you if you
show up to be helped.
Jenn Noble (18:54):
Ooh, I love that People will help you if you show
up to be helped.
I think that's a powerful line.
Now, what would you say tosomeone who's listening right
now and they're like I want tostart a podcast.
Like you sat on it for 10 years, jen.
Like you were like, yes, Iwanted to start.
I remember for me, I've had adream to have a podcast for as
long as I could remember, aslong as I've been listening to
podcasts.
I'm very addicted to podcastsand I have wanted to do one so
(19:17):
much that I did.
I'm back in college right now.
I'm going to school forpsychology to get my degree and
all this stuff and one of myschool projects.
I convinced the teacher to letme start a podcast because I
thought it'll get it under mybelt.
And then that's how this allkind of started and I bought
like my cute little mic and Iworked with my classmates and I
got all together and I got thebug and I figured out, okay, I
(19:38):
want to do this.
And then I had no idea what thefuck I was doing and I was just
like talking into a mic,pretending like I knew what I
was happening, trying to edit iton my own and I didn't know
anything.
So do you ever help people withstarting podcasts, or do you?
What would you recommend tothem to do to really just get
over that?
Jennifer Henczel (19:55):
hump.
Just take the leap.
You know, take the leap.
Just, even if you just haveyour phone, you don't need fancy
equipment.
That's one of the things is, Istarted with a less expensive
mic and I graduated up, up up.
I've had more expensive micsthan this and then I came back
down to this.
One's not that expensive but Ifind it better than some of the
other mics.
So, you know, don't make theequipment a barrier to just
(20:16):
starting.
Take the leap.
You know, when I was 50, I wentskydiving when I turned 50.
That's fantastic.
And when you know, it was mychoice to go right and so I was
going up in the plane, I wasdoing fine until we got to the
top and people started rollingout of the plane, which you
don't normally see on a plane,right?
Jenn Noble (20:37):
Let's hope not at least Exactly.
Jennifer Henczel (20:40):
And then it was our turn.
We nudged towards the door, Iwas tethered to somebody, but he
was letting me kind of decide,and so we had to stand on a
stair on the outside of theplane.
So just imagine standing on astair on the outside of a moving
plane, 10,000 feet up.
Jenn Noble (20:53):
No Continue.
Jennifer Henczel (20:56):
Yeah, well, that moment on this was
terrifying because I looked out,I could see the horizon, the
view was terrifying.
But then we took the leap andfor the first few seconds it
feels like you're falling.
It's very terrifying.
But then you take the position.
After three to five seconds itjust feels like floating and
flying.
I don't know if you knew thatabout skydiving.
I did not know that at all.
(21:17):
I didn't know that either untilit happened right.
And then the view becamespectacular, and then every
minute, every second was amazing, beautiful, wonderful, just
incredible.
I landed safely and it was themost amazing experience of my
life, and so I constantly, everyday, I'm reminded.
Hey, it's most fearful rightbefore the leap, but if you can
(21:41):
just take that leap, there is somuch beauty on the other side
and telling your story is justthe most beautiful experience.
It really helped us.
It helped us through the wholeprocess and the whole
rehabilitation.
Jenn Noble (21:55):
But you're right, it's so scary to start.
You're going to have thesedoubts in your head.
Who wants to listen to me?
Who do I think I am?
Why would anyone actuallylisten to this thing?
But even if just one or twopeople listen to your story, you
know, even if you just get out,like you know, pop out 20
podcasts and you call it a day,I've listened, I've found
(22:16):
podcasts, you know, on Apple.
I usually listen on Apple andand I'll find a podcast.
And I saw, okay, she only putout like 20 episodes and I see
she kind of stopped, but those20 episodes still made an impact
in my life in those moments.
And that's what it's about ispodcasting.
You get to have your story outthere and it gets to stay.
Unlike social media, you put astory out, you put a reel out.
(22:38):
Within hours people are movingon to the next thing, that's
true, but this is such abeautiful opportunity to get out
there and, like you said, yougotta take that first step.
Also, this is such a beautifulopportunity to get out there and
, like you said, you got to takethat first step.
Also, by the way, can I justsay you should do like marketing
for skydiving, because never inmy life have I ever wanted to
skydive and you almost got methere.
So like I was like, oh, thisactually sounds really good.
(23:00):
Maybe now I could try it in acouple of years.
But you're right, that firstleap, that first podcast that
you put out there, that firstanything that is that you do,
just get it out there, have itbe in perfect progress.
It's what it's all about.
What was it like for youstarting up your podcast, doing
your first episode, putting itout there?
Did you put one episode out andthen kind of test the waters?
(23:21):
Did you bank a bunch and thenkind of slowly drip them out one
at a time?
Do you remember at all what youdid?
Jennifer Henczel (23:27):
Yeah, the recommendation even then was
have at least five episodesready to roll, so that you can
either roll them out one dayafter the other or all at once.
Just have five up there, andthen you can keep some ready to
go so that you can then startproducing them and have them out
more consistently.
Jenn Noble (23:43):
Yeah, I really like banking episodes Like I like
trying to do them in advance.
I mean, you know, just to pullthe curtain back, for example,
what it's a April 24th right now, and then who's ever listening
to this?
When it comes out, you're goingto see how, like early on, we
actually recorded this, butit'll come out, you know,
probably in a week or two andthat kind of working it out that
way.
(24:03):
You know, that way people don'tthink like, oh my God, like are
they just doing like everysingle week?
Are they doing this?
I was like no, sometimes wejust sit down, do a whole bunch.
You know, I'll probablyinterview someone else, like
later on tomorrow I bank a bunchand then I put them out and you
can make it work for howeveryou want.
Versus.
I do have a friend.
She has a podcast and she'slike no, I sit down like the day
before I record it, I send itout to my editor and that's it.
(24:26):
I put it up and she's like Icould never do it like baked,
like you do, jen.
So, like anything, do ithowever it is that works best
for you.
Yes, but do it?
Jennifer Henczel (24:36):
Yeah, do it.
It's got to fit your lifestyleand you got to feel aligned with
it, with how the format, likeyou're saying you know, and so
we started, for example, everyweek, and that just didn't work
for us with our lifestyle, andso I use a podcast a little bit
differently.
I have events, for example,quarterly events, where I have
my members from the WomenPodcasters Network and I'll
(24:56):
feature them so that people knowabout women's podcasts, right?
So I'll have a whole bunch 20to 40 women talking about their
podcasts and I'll release thoseepisodes.
That's just one example.
I'll have different kinds ofthings like that throughout the
year, so I don't necessarilyrelease one definitively every
week.
But when I started, you know,years ago, when I started
learning, it was where you hadto.
(25:17):
You know your podcast had to beexactly, you know whatever.
It was 45 minutes long and ithad to be this, that and the
other thing.
And you don't have to do thatanymore.
You can use it however you want.
I know people who have reallysuccessful podcasts that are
five minutes, right, and thenyou know.
So it just depends on youraudience.
The main thing is to know youraudience.
You know who is your audience,who's your ideal listener and
(25:38):
craft a show.
Pretend you're talking to them.
Jenn Noble (25:40):
Oh, I love that and you know, someone gave me this
tip too.
So, in terms of knowing youraudience, but also the other
direction, do what makes youhappy and your audience will
find you.
So if you're the type of personthat just wants to randomly
throw out five minute episodesthis week on a Wednesday, the
next week on the Thursday, likewhatever, if it's bringing you
joy, then like you're going tofind your following.
(26:01):
Now there are probably top tipsout there.
You know, if you want tomonetize it, if you want to do
this, if you want to do that,but at the same time, you know,
just do what's sustainable foryou, like the dripping of the
rock.
You did what's best for you.
If you thought you had to do itevery week and this is what you
have to do you probably stillwouldn't be where you are.
Jennifer Henczel (26:19):
Yeah, exactly.
Jenn Noble (26:20):
That would be a disservice to the entire
podcasting community, becausewhat you do is such a beautiful
thing, and so I'm so glad thatyou figured out what works best
for you.
I love that so much.
Jennifer Henczel (26:30):
It is more flexible now than you know when
it first started, or even 10years ago.
Jenn Noble (26:36):
Yeah, Some people even just do stories.
I mean, we've seen that evenwith like the big dogs, you know
, like cereal and stuff likethat, like they literally just
come.
It's like you're watchingNetflix you come in, you tell a
story and then you bounce andthat's it.
But it lives out there forever.
It's your story.
So maybe you have something youwant to share, maybe you have
something on your heart andmaybe you just want to put 10
(26:56):
episodes together and you wantto share it from start to finish
.
This is my life.
Maybe it's an experience ofskydiving.
Then you want to talk abouttraining and then going up and
then the next episode is gettingout and the next episode's
landing.
But that's your baby that yougot to put out there in the
(27:17):
world and I say just do it.
And to anyone out there that isdoes, let's say they have a
podcast, they are a woman,they're out there, they're
listening.
You know I have friends andthey're all that.
Tell me a little bit more abouthow they can get nominated, how
can they join the awards in thefuture and how can they support
this amazing community thatyou've been growing.
Jennifer Henczel (27:34):
Oh well, thank you so much.
Well, and the other thing toois I was able to monetize from
day one.
Even though I don't have sortof a traditional format, I'm
still able to monetize.
So you can monetize it, you canuse it.
You can use it for your ownpurposes, and so, for anyone who
wants to know more about this,you can go to womenpodcasterscom
, and if you are a podcaster ora broadcaster or a producer or
(27:58):
even an expert guest, you can goto womenpodcasterscom.
Forward slash awards.
You have a few more days.
I'm not sure when you'rereleasing this.
The nominations are open untilApril 30th and voting starts
from May 1st to the end of May,and then the winners are
announced June 25th.
So I hope everybody votes foryour show.
Jenn Noble (28:17):
Thank you.
Yes, please go vote for SpeakHonest, please.
I am up there.
You can go give me a vote.
It's one vote per person, I'massuming.
Yes, yeah, okay, great, so goget your vote in.
You have all month of May.
This will probably be going outin May, so the nominations will
be closed, but I'm assumingyou're going to do this again
next year, right?
Jennifer Henczel (28:33):
Yes, so we do it every year.
Last year was our inauguralyear actually.
Oh fantastic, congrats, thankyou.
Yeah, it went so well, had over15,000 votes, but on top of
that, the most wonderful thingwas that the podcasting industry
really embraced it and reallysupported me.
I had some top people from thepodcasting industry come and
support the Women PodcastersAwards, so it's well supported.
(28:54):
It's well distributed.
We're in all kinds of media allover the place and everything,
so you get a lot of visibility.
Jenn Noble (29:01):
I got recommended to go and look you guys up and it
was my marketing director thathelped me, like with this.
And so, yeah, no, youdefinitely are out there.
You're getting out there.
I say if someone is evenlistening, because, as we talked
about, podcasts live forever,so I can imagine someone's going
to, you know, google or whatnot, like women podcasters awards.
If you're listening to thislater on and you want to be
(29:21):
nominated, you want to go outthere, you want to learn more
about it.
Like, just go out there, justgo take that first leap.
You know it's scary, it'suncomfortable.
You know there's a part of methat's like why would I be
nominated?
Why should I throw my hat inthe ring?
Who am I?
I'm a nobody, and it's like youknow what?
No, we're going to cut that outnow.
Ladies, we are everything, weare everybody, we are everyone
(29:42):
and we're all going to lift eachother up.
So go vote and you know what?
Vote for your favorite podcast,not even just for me, because,
all again, like I said, allthese other ladies podcasts,
they're amazing.
Go find some great stuff tolisten to and lift each other up
.
Lift up these other women aswell.
So thank you so much, jen, forcoming on the podcast today.
Is there anything else you wantto leave us with before we wrap
(30:03):
up?
Jennifer Henczel (30:03):
today.
Well, I just want to say it'ssuch a joy to connect with you
and meet with you today.
This is why I do this is toconnect with people like you who
are just doing such amazingwork, and I just enjoy hanging
out with you.
I enjoy having you in the group.
You're so great at connectingwith people and you're right,
you know all of our nominees arelisted on the website, so
people can go look and they canlook up a whole bunch of
(30:25):
different kinds of shows andthere's different categories too
, so they can vote for you inone category and they can vote
for a bunch of other podcasts indifferent categories if they
want.
Jenn Noble (30:33):
Oh, that's right.
You have all the differentcategories and you have to do
that.
So go check out some of themand then go vote for your other
ones, because, again, the morewe lift each other up, the more
we all get to rise with the tide, and that's what it's all about
.
Well, thank you so much, jen,for coming on and I can't wait
to hang out with you later.
I just adore you and I hope youhave a beautiful day.
Oh, thank you so much.
Take care, bye, bye.
(30:57):
I am so glad I got anopportunity to talk with Jen.
She is just so inspirational.
She is someone I look up to.
She is a businesswoman kickingass, taking names, and it means
so much to be a part of hercommunity.
Now I have met so many otheramazing women podcasters.
I feel like it's reallyleveling me up personally, as
(31:17):
both a podcaster and a coach,just to be amongst these amazing
women.
And again, I just want to say,if you have the opportunity,
could you please, please, pleasego and vote for Speak Honest.
Go ahead and scroll on down tothe show notes.
There's a link.
You want to find me in thepersonal development category of
the Podcasters Awards andyou're going to click on Speak
(31:38):
Honest, send me a vote and then,if you can take a screen cap,
drop it in the Facebook group.
Tell us that you voted and youwill be entered to win a free
coaching call with me, becauseit's my way of saying thank you
so much for supporting thispodcast.
It means the world to me.
It truly does.
It actually could get me alittle bit emotional if I start
thinking about it for too long,because this has been my dream.
(31:59):
Thank you for listening, thankyou for being here and always.
I will talk to you next weekUntil being here and always.
I will talk to you next week.
Until then, take care, as wewrap up today's conversation,
always remember that healing isa journey, not a destination,
and it is an honor to be a partof your healing journey.
If you want to dig deeper intothe topics we covered today, be
(32:29):
sure to head over to our shownotes, where you can find all of
the valuable informationmentioned in today's episode.
Right, we'll see you next time.
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