June 9, 2025 • 12 mins
In this heartfelt and fiery kickoff episode, Jules and Michele pull back the curtain on what it truly means to be a “spicy midlife woman.” With wit, warmth, and wisdom, they share the real-life experiences, challenges, and mindset shifts that have shaped them—and why this podcast is a no-BS, safe space for women navigating life over 40. From relationships and motherhood to identity, expectations, and reinvention, they set the tone for a show dedicated to helping midlife women reclaim their voice, rewrite the rules, and unapologetically own who they are.
You’ll learn:
- Who this podcast is for (hint: it’s more women than you think)
- Why midlife can feel both liberating and invisible—and what to do about it
- How societal expectations shape (and limit) women in their 40s, 50s, and 60s
- The spicy difference between expectations and standards
- How to navigate changing relationships, dating, and identity in midlife
- Why reclaiming your truth often ruffles feathers—and why that’s a good thing
- What it really means to live unapologetically and define success on your own terms
- How this podcast will serve as a supportive sisterhood and resource hub
- The importance of reflection, healing, and humor on the journey
- Why now is the perfect time to get clear, get empowered, and get spicy
Are you ready to take your "spiciness" to the next level?!
Connect with Julee & Michele on Instagram @spicy_midlife_women and send a DM about what resonated most during this episode so they can encourage you with steps forward in your own life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, this is Jules and Michelle here, two
spicy midlife women sharing ourreal life stories and having no
BS conversations with you.
Right, michelle, that's right.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Here to help all you midlife women redefine your
relationships, ditch those toxiccycles and reclaim your power,
one episode at a time.
What?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
are we going for today, Jules?
Well, we're just going to getright into it because we want to
chat a little bit about whatthat means.
I mean, who is this podcast for?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Right, right.
I think it's going to be for somany women, and I think also
it's going to be for women thatdon't even know it's for them.
I know, that's what.
I'm kind of excited about, so Iwant to challenge those that
are on the fence to listeningReally just sit back and take a
listen.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, because we're really focusing on midlife women
, or women really over 40.
And a lot of the things we'vementioned in the trailer and
we'll probably be talking aboutthroughout here are really
things we've been throughourselves, you know.
We've been married, we've hadchildren, we've had careers,
we've made a hell of a lot ofmistakes along the way and we've
learned a lot, you know, alongthe way too, and we can see
definitely that, as we are inmidlife, we really kind of
(01:21):
consider ourselves spicy life.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
We really kind of consider ourselves spicy.
Right, it's so interesting,especially now and you know, you
hear the cliche term hindsightis 20-20,.
Right, but it really is beingable to.
And not that this journey iseven close to being over.
Right, it's never over.
No, it's an ongoing thing thatwe just keep forging our way
through, thing that we just keepforging our way through.
(01:48):
But taking a look back andseeing where we are now and what
got us here and some of thethings that we had to go through
to get us to this point, yeah,and some of that shit does make
you spicy it absolutely well.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It can do one of two things it can make you spicy or
it can make you complacentreally or kind of feel like that
is all that's out there for you.
And I mean there's definitelytimes in my life where I've been
like, oh my gosh, it's like, isthis what it's all about?
And a lot of that has to gointo, you know, parenting and
the relationships, like we'vetalked about before, you have
(02:21):
with yourself, but also withyour family and your significant
other, or even in the datingworld, you know, if you're not
married.
I mean there's so manydifferent components to it.
So we're really trying todefine what it is like to be a
midlife woman and understandthat in our day and age, being a
midlife woman is really I don'tknow something where we don't
(02:44):
really look at ourselves asmidlife women.
Right, there's no contain,there's nothing containing us.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, that's a really good way to put it, because I
think that is when you think ofspicy midlife women.
That's exactly where we're at.
We are not fit in the box.
We're outside of the lines,right.
We are not fit in the box,we're outside of the lines,
right.
Not that we intentionally pushthe norms or go against the
expectations, but that's kind ofwhat this is about is being
(03:15):
yourself, right.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
And not apologizing about it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, and doing it unapologetically, realizing what
some of the things are.
That's what we want you to getout of this is to really gain
clarity on what you really wantwith these things.
What do you want inrelationships?
What do you want to do with thebaggage that you're carrying?
(03:38):
Do you want to haul it aroundand drag it, or do you want to
heal and release it Right?
What do you want to do withdating at this?
If that's where you're at, youknow?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
which, of course, I have a lot of experience with.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, Julie's gonna be the expert on that topic.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't know about.
I don't know about an expert,but I certainly have things to
offer you know, because you hearabout dating in midlife and how
treacherous it can be, and thatis not a lie by any stretch.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, it's not typical now in this day and age,
and you know the whole feminismaspect of being a woman in this
day and age, recognizing youknow what you have to contribute
while balancing the femininity.
It kind of is a balancing act.
(04:27):
Now there's all theseexpectations that you know a lot
of people have with women andwe put those expectations on
ourself with women, feminism andthe things you know like hear
me roar, let me take on theworld.
I'm gonna do it all and reallybalancing that.
And what does that?
(04:47):
It looks very different nowthan it used to yeah, it's not
like you have to choose.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You don't have to choose to be your authentic self
and try to work your lifearound what other people's view
is of you and what you're gonnafind, ladies, is that, as you
really start finding your voice,there are going to be people in
your life who don't like it,who don't necessarily feel
(05:12):
comfortable with you, you know,kind of coming into yourself,
and so those are some of thethings that we're definitely
going to be talking about,because there will be moments
when that's going to happen andyou have to step back and say
gosh, you know, I don't know howI feel about that.
I think I'm going to not worryabout it or I'm going to
continue forging forward and notlet the criticism of people
(05:35):
that are in my life affect meand how I do things.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Might have to rewrite some of those rules that you
didn't even realize you werefollowing.
Yeah, right, and you know it'sgoing to have some of those aha
moments, if you will, when yourealize that something's got to
change because you've got thisanxiety within you, or the
struggle, I should say, withgoing with the flow or going
(06:02):
with what you know Right.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Right and going with the flow, or going with what you
know Right, right and goingwith the flow is the path of
least resistance, one sometimeswe've taken and we've all been
there.
You know when it's just beeneasier because we're tired or
because we've got so manyexpectations placed upon us.
And you know, one of the otherthings we definitely want to get
(06:25):
into is challenging some ofthose perceived expectations and
you know, really correlatingexpectations versus standards to
determine, you know where we'reat.
Are we following things that weare supposed to do or are we
setting our own standards forthings that we're okay with and
(06:46):
not getting upset about it?
You know, when it doesn'tnecessarily align with other
people's goals and expectations,right?
So the aha moment you talkedabout, I think, is a real key
because as we go through ourlife and we go through the
different stages in our life andyou know anyone who's listening
(07:07):
and you're in probably your 40sor in your 50s or even in your
60s it's like there's differentsegments of your life where
you're going to run into thesechallenges.
Provide information to inspireyou, provide details and
(07:27):
examples of things that we'vedone, where we did them wrong or
where we did them correctly, orwhere we learned the hard way,
so you can hopefully learn fromsome of the things that we've
been through ourselves as well.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Just here to help you get through it, man.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And again going back to that whole thing about spicy.
You know, when Michelle and Iwere talking about this, it's
like we kind of chuckle about ita little bit, because there's
so much that goes into being awoman, and a woman who is in the
age groups that we're talkingabout here, Because there are
views of what we are supposed tobe doing, how we're supposed to
(08:03):
wear our hair, what kind ofclothes we're supposed to wear.
Heck, there's a lot of peoplewho feel like they're completely
invisible at this age becausenobody really pays attention to
women that are in their midlife.
I mean, I've heard that formany years.
I don't necessarily agree withall of that because I think a
lot of it has to do with how youpresent yourself and the level
(08:23):
of confidence that you have andthe people that you surround
yourself with.
You know those sorts of thingsmake a big difference in you
know how you view yourself.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, your age.
Yeah, your age is whatever youfeel like it should be, right?
Right, it's not.
Julie always teases me becauseshe's got me wearing an apron
and pearls and cooking in thekitchen, right?
You know, my mom at midlifelooked completely different than
what I look at it at midlife,yeah, right, and that's what
(08:54):
we're talking about.
It doesn't have to be thestereotypical woman that you
know looks a certain way andsays certain things and listens
to certain music and, becauseit's age appropriate, fuck that,
get that age appropriate stuffout the window.
It's whatever you enjoy andit's whatever makes you feel
(09:14):
good.
And sometimes that's reallyhard to recognize.
When you're in the throes ofraising a family and trying to
figure out if, you know, arebalancing a career with all of
that and, you know, going tochurch on Sunday and doing all
the things that are happening inthat time, it's really hard to
lose yourself, or not hard, it'svery easy to lose yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And I would say that's definitely something that
I did 100%.
I did 110%.
I totally did.
But anyway, we'll get into allof that in our episodes, because
there's plenty to go over.
So, as we mentioned before,really being unapologetic about
your own truth and determiningwho you are is probably the one
most wonderful thing you can dofor yourself, and we again are
(10:02):
just going to try to finddifferent avenues for you to see
that in your own life.
It's all going to be differentfor different people, but
hopefully there's a lot ofinformation that will resonate
with you and some of the storiesand some of the hilarious
things that we come up with willresonate with you and help you
kind of get a little pep in yourstep and try something
(10:22):
different perhaps, or go in adifferent direction or make
really tough decisions that youhave been kind of putting your
head in the sand about.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
You know, there's all kinds of things that we're
hopefully going to be able tohelp you with oh yeah, we want
you to be able to gain clarity,embrace newness, right, feel
empowered and, you know, holdthe ability to reject outdated
expectations and create a lifethat feels good.
Yeah, on your own terms, right?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Right, jules, that we have circles of friends that
are close circles, and then wehave wider circles of friends
and people who are maybe insimilar stages in life, but what
we really are hoping to achievewith this podcast is providing
you with a sisterhood and asupportive community that is
(11:18):
dealing with a lot of the samethings that you're dealing with,
so we'll have more on that tocome, but there's going to be a
definite place for you to beable to ask questions and for
you to be able to chat withother women.
There's just all kinds ofexciting things coming up that
we're really happy to share withall of you.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
So exciting, so exciting, and you know we are
happy to say that we are out onall the podcast platforms.
Whatever you enjoy listening toSpotify, amazon, all of them
you will find us there.
Spicy Midlife Women and yeah,and we, spicy Midlife Women will
(11:58):
be dropping episodes every week.
So every Monday you'll getsomething new.
Episodes every week.
So every Monday you'll getsomething new.
And we can't wait to share allthe information with you, with
our experiences andconversations, and grow our
community, saving a place foryou.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And until then, until then, we will look forward to
chatting with all of you ladies,and I guess we will be staying
spicy, won't we?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Until then, yep, stay spicy sisters.
Hey everyone, this is Jules and Michelle here, two
spicy midlife women sharing ourreal life stories and having no
BS conversations with you.
Right, michelle, that's right.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Here to help all you midlife women redefine your
relationships, ditch those toxiccycles and reclaim your power,
one episode at a time.
What?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
are we going for today, Jules?
Well, we're just going to getright into it because we want to
chat a little bit about whatthat means.
I mean, who is this podcast for?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Right, right.
I think it's going to be for somany women, and I think also
it's going to be for women thatdon't even know it's for them.
I know, that's what.
I'm kind of excited about, so Iwant to challenge those that
are on the fence to listeningReally just sit back and take a
listen.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, because we're really focusing on midlife women
, or women really over 40.
And a lot of the things we'vementioned in the trailer and
we'll probably be talking aboutthroughout here are really
things we've been throughourselves, you know.
We've been married, we've hadchildren, we've had careers,
we've made a hell of a lot ofmistakes along the way and we've
learned a lot, you know, alongthe way too, and we can see
definitely that, as we are inmidlife, we really kind of
(01:21):
consider ourselves spicy life.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
We really kind of consider ourselves spicy.
Right, it's so interesting,especially now and you know, you
hear the cliche term hindsightis 20-20,.
Right, but it really is beingable to.
And not that this journey iseven close to being over.
Right, it's never over.
No, it's an ongoing thing thatwe just keep forging our way
through, thing that we just keepforging our way through.
(01:48):
But taking a look back andseeing where we are now and what
got us here and some of thethings that we had to go through
to get us to this point, yeah,and some of that shit does make
you spicy it absolutely well.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It can do one of two things it can make you spicy or
it can make you complacentreally or kind of feel like that
is all that's out there for you.
And I mean there's definitelytimes in my life where I've been
like, oh my gosh, it's like, isthis what it's all about?
And a lot of that has to gointo, you know, parenting and
the relationships, like we'vetalked about before, you have
(02:21):
with yourself, but also withyour family and your significant
other, or even in the datingworld, you know, if you're not
married.
I mean there's so manydifferent components to it.
So we're really trying todefine what it is like to be a
midlife woman and understandthat in our day and age, being a
midlife woman is really I don'tknow something where we don't
(02:44):
really look at ourselves asmidlife women.
Right, there's no contain,there's nothing containing us.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, that's a really good way to put it, because I
think that is when you think ofspicy midlife women.
That's exactly where we're at.
We are not fit in the box.
We're outside of the lines,right.
We are not fit in the box,we're outside of the lines,
right.
Not that we intentionally pushthe norms or go against the
expectations, but that's kind ofwhat this is about is being
(03:15):
yourself, right.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
And not apologizing about it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, and doing it unapologetically, realizing what
some of the things are.
That's what we want you to getout of this is to really gain
clarity on what you really wantwith these things.
What do you want inrelationships?
What do you want to do with thebaggage that you're carrying?
(03:38):
Do you want to haul it aroundand drag it, or do you want to
heal and release it Right?
What do you want to do withdating at this?
If that's where you're at, youknow?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
which, of course, I have a lot of experience with.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, Julie's gonna be the expert on that topic.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't know about.
I don't know about an expert,but I certainly have things to
offer you know, because you hearabout dating in midlife and how
treacherous it can be, and thatis not a lie by any stretch.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, it's not typical now in this day and age,
and you know the whole feminismaspect of being a woman in this
day and age, recognizing youknow what you have to contribute
while balancing the femininity.
It kind of is a balancing act.
(04:27):
Now there's all theseexpectations that you know a lot
of people have with women andwe put those expectations on
ourself with women, feminism andthe things you know like hear
me roar, let me take on theworld.
I'm gonna do it all and reallybalancing that.
And what does that?
(04:47):
It looks very different nowthan it used to yeah, it's not
like you have to choose.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You don't have to choose to be your authentic self
and try to work your lifearound what other people's view
is of you and what you're gonnafind, ladies, is that, as you
really start finding your voice,there are going to be people in
your life who don't like it,who don't necessarily feel
(05:12):
comfortable with you, you know,kind of coming into yourself,
and so those are some of thethings that we're definitely
going to be talking about,because there will be moments
when that's going to happen andyou have to step back and say
gosh, you know, I don't know howI feel about that.
I think I'm going to not worryabout it or I'm going to
continue forging forward and notlet the criticism of people
(05:35):
that are in my life affect meand how I do things.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Might have to rewrite some of those rules that you
didn't even realize you werefollowing.
Yeah, right, and you know it'sgoing to have some of those aha
moments, if you will, when yourealize that something's got to
change because you've got thisanxiety within you, or the
struggle, I should say, withgoing with the flow or going
(06:02):
with what you know Right.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Right and going with the flow, or going with what you
know Right, right and goingwith the flow is the path of
least resistance, one sometimeswe've taken and we've all been
there.
You know when it's just beeneasier because we're tired or
because we've got so manyexpectations placed upon us.
And you know, one of the otherthings we definitely want to get
(06:25):
into is challenging some ofthose perceived expectations and
you know, really correlatingexpectations versus standards to
determine, you know where we'reat.
Are we following things that weare supposed to do or are we
setting our own standards forthings that we're okay with and
(06:46):
not getting upset about it?
You know, when it doesn'tnecessarily align with other
people's goals and expectations,right?
So the aha moment you talkedabout, I think, is a real key
because as we go through ourlife and we go through the
different stages in our life andyou know anyone who's listening
(07:07):
and you're in probably your 40sor in your 50s or even in your
60s it's like there's differentsegments of your life where
you're going to run into thesechallenges.
Provide information to inspireyou, provide details and
(07:27):
examples of things that we'vedone, where we did them wrong or
where we did them correctly, orwhere we learned the hard way,
so you can hopefully learn fromsome of the things that we've
been through ourselves as well.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Just here to help you get through it, man.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And again going back to that whole thing about spicy.
You know, when Michelle and Iwere talking about this, it's
like we kind of chuckle about ita little bit, because there's
so much that goes into being awoman, and a woman who is in the
age groups that we're talkingabout here, Because there are
views of what we are supposed tobe doing, how we're supposed to
(08:03):
wear our hair, what kind ofclothes we're supposed to wear.
Heck, there's a lot of peoplewho feel like they're completely
invisible at this age becausenobody really pays attention to
women that are in their midlife.
I mean, I've heard that formany years.
I don't necessarily agree withall of that because I think a
lot of it has to do with how youpresent yourself and the level
(08:23):
of confidence that you have andthe people that you surround
yourself with.
You know those sorts of thingsmake a big difference in you
know how you view yourself.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, your age.
Yeah, your age is whatever youfeel like it should be, right?
Right, it's not.
Julie always teases me becauseshe's got me wearing an apron
and pearls and cooking in thekitchen, right?
You know, my mom at midlifelooked completely different than
what I look at it at midlife,yeah, right, and that's what
(08:54):
we're talking about.
It doesn't have to be thestereotypical woman that you
know looks a certain way andsays certain things and listens
to certain music and, becauseit's age appropriate, fuck that,
get that age appropriate stuffout the window.
It's whatever you enjoy andit's whatever makes you feel
(09:14):
good.
And sometimes that's reallyhard to recognize.
When you're in the throes ofraising a family and trying to
figure out if, you know, arebalancing a career with all of
that and, you know, going tochurch on Sunday and doing all
the things that are happening inthat time, it's really hard to
lose yourself, or not hard, it'svery easy to lose yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And I would say that's definitely something that
I did 100%.
I did 110%.
I totally did.
But anyway, we'll get into allof that in our episodes, because
there's plenty to go over.
So, as we mentioned before,really being unapologetic about
your own truth and determiningwho you are is probably the one
most wonderful thing you can dofor yourself, and we again are
(10:02):
just going to try to finddifferent avenues for you to see
that in your own life.
It's all going to be differentfor different people, but
hopefully there's a lot ofinformation that will resonate
with you and some of the storiesand some of the hilarious
things that we come up with willresonate with you and help you
kind of get a little pep in yourstep and try something
(10:22):
different perhaps, or go in adifferent direction or make
really tough decisions that youhave been kind of putting your
head in the sand about.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
You know, there's all kinds of things that we're
hopefully going to be able tohelp you with oh yeah, we want
you to be able to gain clarity,embrace newness, right, feel
empowered and, you know, holdthe ability to reject outdated
expectations and create a lifethat feels good.
Yeah, on your own terms, right?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Right, jules, that we have circles of friends that
are close circles, and then wehave wider circles of friends
and people who are maybe insimilar stages in life, but what
we really are hoping to achievewith this podcast is providing
you with a sisterhood and asupportive community that is
(11:18):
dealing with a lot of the samethings that you're dealing with,
so we'll have more on that tocome, but there's going to be a
definite place for you to beable to ask questions and for
you to be able to chat withother women.
There's just all kinds ofexciting things coming up that
we're really happy to share withall of you.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
So exciting, so exciting, and you know we are
happy to say that we are out onall the podcast platforms.
Whatever you enjoy listening toSpotify, amazon, all of them
you will find us there.
Spicy Midlife Women and yeah,and we, spicy Midlife Women will
(11:58):
be dropping episodes every week.
So every Monday you'll getsomething new.
Episodes every week.
So every Monday you'll getsomething new.
And we can't wait to share allthe information with you, with
our experiences andconversations, and grow our
community, saving a place foryou.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And until then, until then, we will look forward to
chatting with all of you ladies,and I guess we will be staying
spicy, won't we?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Until then, yep, stay spicy sisters.
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