January 26, 2025 • 39 mins
Join us, Michele and Jules, as we hilariously unearth secret grooming habits people often keep under wraps, like the quick-and-dirty "marine" or "whore" shower. From the futile attempts to mask cigarette smoke with cologne to the amusing tales of skipped pre-gym showers, we explore the quirky lengths some folks go to keep certain rituals hidden—and why they rarely succeed.
Venturing into the sometimes comical, sometimes intimate world of personal grooming, we share stories about teaching kids the art of self-care and reflect on the cultural quirks of growing up in families where bath time was a once-a-week affair. Our chat touches on the diverse global attitudes towards grooming, especially women's leg hair removal, reminding us that what one culture deems necessary, another might see as optional.
We then explore the unspoken grooming rituals that are essential yet often unnoticed by partners. Whether it's maintaining nail hygiene or navigating the unique dynamics of public grooming spaces, we sprinkle humor into the discussion of intimacy and mystery in relationships. Through our laughter-filled anecdotes, we underscore the importance of personal choice in grooming and how it's all about comfort and style, despite the influence of social media. So settle in and enjoy a candid look at the rituals that keep us feeling our best, even when no one else is watching.
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Connect with Julee & Michele on Instagram @spicy_midlife_women and send a DM about what resonated most during this episode so they can encourage you with steps forward in your own life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody.
This is Michelle and this isJulie.
Welcome to a blonde, a brunetteand a mic podcast.
What is our podcast all about,you ask?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Well, we're 250 something.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Women with life experience and oh bloody to say
which is exactly what we'regonna do right now.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Shelly Belly Hi, how's it going, girl?
It's going good.
Yeah, it is, yep, hey we'rerecording in a new space.
Today we're like podcast nomads.
Today we're downstairs inMichelle's house and on her
comfy couches because we'rereorganizing the podcast studio.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, and I'm super excited, though, for the outcome
, as am I, because we're goingto have some seriously comfy
couches and everything in there.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So in the meantime, we're just going to sit on
Michelle's comfy couch becausewe have some really juicy, fun
things to talk about today Nowdon't we.
Michelle.
What Going with the flow?
She's going with the flow.
Hey, you've got your mic.
Podcast nomads.
No, you don't have your mic.
You do have your mic.
You have your.
You have your coffee cup?
Oh, yes, I have both.
It has our names on the otherside.
(01:14):
Show it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
There it is anyway um yeah, coffee tastes way better
in this cup.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I like that one a lot .
It's just the perfect size andit's really something that we
got for our podcast guests,which we have been a little
delinquent on sending out.
Okay, I'm taking that part out.
Anyway, what are we talkingabout today?
Michelle, I think this is a funone.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well.
So this came up as a topic andI thought it would be good, as
did Jules, and it has to do withgrooming habits.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Secret grooming habits.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Secret grooming habits that our partners don't
want us to know or we don'tnecessarily share either.
Yeah, so either way.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So both sides of the coin, whichever partner, just
secret grooming habits that wedo not share.
Well, we were talking aboutthis a little bit before we got
started and you had this funnystory you were telling me.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Well, no, I was just because, as, yeah, as we were
talking about it, it brought meback to somebody I know that
shared this with me actually along time ago.
So when you brought this up, Itotally knew what you were
talking about, and she wastelling me how she dated this
guy that thought it was weirdthat she didn't shower every day
(02:41):
.
Right, and I mean, I don'tshower every day, I don't shower
every day but so she wastelling me this.
She was like so there weretimes when I would stay or he
would stay, that I would just goin and pretend like I was
taking a shower and I'm like howdid that happen?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Just turn the water on, got my face wet, you know
and it probably rolled rightinto what we call like a marine
shower or a whore shower.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So what is that?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So well, I'd always heard it as a marine shower, and
then our friend Carol told meit's called a whore shower.
Basically, you just do yourpits and privates.
Yeah, peas, the peas.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Pits and privates.
Do your pits and privates.
Yeah, peas, the peas.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Pits and privates, the pits and privates I mean.
I always thought and then puton cologne.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I was going to say.
That's what I always thought ahorse shower was just that.
Let's just like spray a bunchof cologne on us and here we go.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Kind of reminds me of all those guys that used to
come into downtown SeattleNordstrom and they would spray
like 15 different colognes onthemselves.
Yes, yes, they would, I don'tthink it was really making that
big of a difference.
As a matter of fact, itprobably was making it worse,
but you know.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Honestly, can we talk about just that for a second?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Smokers do that.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Okay, smokers do that .
Smokers this is off topic, butsmokers do that.
It makes me think of peoplethat smoke.
They go smoke and they comeback in and they spray
themselves with perfume,thinking that the smell is gone.
And let me tell you, girls,guys, the smell is not gone.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It's not gone.
It's not gone and, having beenpeople that secretly smoked in
the past, it's a secret.
I was a closet person, justlike I'm a podcast nomad.
I was a closet smoker, okay,you all know.
Now judge me, but not like atypical closet smoker oh no,
pretty typical.
Yeah, mary and I were.
I mean, this is going back towhen she came back from Germany,
(04:34):
when she was 19.
And all of a sudden, I mean,I'm so cigarettes.
Well, it's ends up on yourfingers and I don't care what
anybody says.
It's in your hair, it gets inyour clothes, it's like it just
it doesn't go away.
So people that think thatcologne is going to solve the
problem, or gum comes out yourpores Just like anything when
you.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
It's just like that.
We're a little off topic.
But it reminds me too of theperson that ate garlic the night
before, or I think of thatgarlic or onions, and it's just
seeping out the pores.
You totally know they did itSame thing with cigarettes.
People, you're not going tocover that shit up with perfume,
but you really notice this atthe gym.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You notice at the gym and I can remember like younger
, when I was younger, just likehaving gone out or something,
and I had a gym, like a meetingwith a trainer in the morning,
and I was definitely.
You know, I didn't showerbefore I went to the gym.
I think a lot of people do that.
I don't really do that becauseI usually don't really get that
dirty, but I don't.
I just throw my hair in aponytail or whatever.
(05:33):
I don't go hit the showerbefore I go to the gym.
But in this particular case Iprobably wouldn't have mattered
because once you got sweaty it'slike all that stuff's coming
out of your pores, whether it'salcohol or, you know, smoke,
because you've been smoking orin a smoky environment.
Do you think if you smoke, weedthat comes out of your pores?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Do you think so?
Yeah, why not?
I don't know, I've nevernoticed that before.
I mean why would you?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I mean I'm people that.
I know that you know?
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I know that's a goodquestion, but wait, take me back
to showering before the gym.
Who showers before they go tothe gym?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So I know two people that do that Really Guys, yeah,
that do that.
But they're also people thattake three showers a day, which
to me seems like excessive,unless you're in like a really
like a really sweaty environment.
You know, like, if you're in areally hot environment, like in
the south, where it's look at Imade that face in the south
(06:31):
where it's um very humid, it'slike you get out of the shower
and you feel like you need toget back in the shower I hate
that feeling yeah, the midwestis like that too.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, yeah, but I can see why you would take three
showers a day.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But I mean so until I met you, until I started
hanging out with you I shouldsay years ago I was the girl
that would wash my hair everysingle day.
And if I went one day without,I just felt so gross if I didn't
.
Or I remember that one of themanagers at Nordstrom saying
yeah, you know he was explainingsomeone coming to work.
She comes to work and you cantell that you know she's put
together.
(07:06):
And then the next day, I thinkshe just rolled out of bed
because her hair is one of thosebanana clip things, so she
didn't wash her hair.
And I remember him saying thatkind of going well, that's kind
of judgy, it's like she doesn'tneed to wash her hair every
single day, but you can take abody shower without having to
wash your hair.
You know, it just takes foreverfor it to dry and you've got all
this product and blah blah blahprocess, and it doesn't even
(07:29):
get dirty.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's a process.
And to wash your hair, yes,with the product and the blow
drying it and straightening it,whatever it is you do with your
hair either way, it's a processand it is not healthy for your
scalp or your hair to wash itevery day.
It's not no Okay?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So I actually there's something that I ran across
that I kind of already knew.
But as far as your vajayjay,we're going to talk vajayjay for
a second here You're really notsupposed to use a lot of like
soaps, no, and things there too,because it has this natural way
of cleaning itself.
But at the same time you got tofeel fresh.
So I mean, just wash it, justwash it yeah.
(08:11):
But not using a bunch of soapsand stuff, cause you're going to
get like I don't know irritatedor something.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
That takes me down a whole other rabbit hole, so
don't get me started.
So on shaving or something, noon on soaps and things.
You know, body shampoos, allthat stuff with all the things
that they put in them.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
now there's parabens, too many things that you should
not be putting on your body,let alone in your hoo-ha, or on
your hoo-ha or around yourhoo-ha.
Good point, but it's like youknow kind of going back to the
whole pineapple conversation youjust definitely want to be
mindful of you know your regions, you know, and make sure that
they're all nice and fresh.
And when you're in anenvironment, like I said, where
(08:53):
it's a really sweaty environment, it's like you definitely want
to be mindful of that, you know.
That's why they have thoselittle wet wipes.
And oh, there's one of oursecrets the little wet wipes and
things like that that you takewith you.
I totally will do that,absolutely yes, I do too To feel
fresh, yes, fresh and so clean.
Clean, like that song.
Fresh and so clean clean yeah,so the shower thing Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I just said I don't know.
Showering before the gym seemscounterintuitive to me.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It does to me too, but then these are like men that
probably get sweaty-ish, youknow, and so maybe they just
feel more comfortable that way.
I mean, I would prefer thatthey're showering than not
showering, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So, if it takes, three a day, knock yourself out.
Yeah, go for it guys.
Yeah, no judgment here.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, but there are definitely I mean, I know, women
like that too Secrets andthings that we have or men have.
I mean, we've talked veryopenly about the whole shaving
and the waxing, and I meanmanscaping Womenscaping of
(10:01):
course too, but manscaping.
I see that I'm noticing morethat men are more mindful of
that, which, thank God, you know.
Thank.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
God Okay.
So before we go much furtherinto that, let's just explain
what the manscaping is.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, it's basically just taking care of yourself.
It's the same thing that we do,but I mean, some guys take it
to a little bit further degree.
You know where they're.
Maybe they bodybuild and theyshave their chest or they shave
their arms, but they getmanicures, they get pedicures.
You know?
They're more like metro.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I guess.
Think of, think of the wordlandscaping.
We're manscaping, so we're.
We're trimming and shaping andclearing off and blowing they're
doing the same thing that mostwomen do.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Well, I shouldn't say most women, because there's
plenty of women, that don't.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I suppose as well, that don't yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And on a lot of those things.
It's like I didn't even reallypay attention to a lot of that
stuff until I was a little bitolder, so I'm just going to pull
a fast one on you.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I'm going to ring the bell right now.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So, in the middle of our segment, this is going to be
good, Well, no, and it's reallyno big deal.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
but trim that nose hair or don't trim the nose hair
.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I've never had to do that, but I would say,
absolutely do it.
If you need to Use your ownspecial scissors, put them away,
because you know damn wellyou're using it for other stuff
too.
Don't let them sit around sosomeone else can use them.
They're yours.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
My name is Michelle and I trim my nose hair
Hopefully she uses her ownscissors.
Yes, okay, moving on now one ofmy children asked me once mommy
, why do you have spider webs inyour nose?
So ever since I was, I just Iwas a long ass time ago.
(11:55):
Nobody calls you mommy anymoreI know I clip so I can clip that
shit.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, yep, no, anyway , but it's like even talking to
your kids about this kind ofstuff.
I mean, it's like I guess youcould do it when they're younger
, but as they get older, it'slike I just would like buy one
of those grooming kits and itwould be a gift.
Not that I know whether I mean,I don't know whether they need
it or not or know what to dowith it or whatever but it's
(12:20):
kind of like I'm justencouraging them to be good for
whoever their future person is,and for themselves, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And I think too, just like anything when it comes to
trauma and childhood trauma andall the things there are, this
is something else that couldpossibly a generational thing be
broken.
I was telling Julie as we weretalking about this this earlier.
I grew up in a family of eightand we took baths on Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I mean talk about not all at the same time.
I was actually not all at thesame time.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
yeah, not all at the same time, uh, but I was joking
that term.
You know, don't throw the babyout with the bath water.
I was number eight.
Eight, I'm the youngest, and wedidn't all share the same bath
water or anything like that, buta few of us would take a bath
the last couple of weeks.
Or even sometimes.
Yeah, so you know.
So I didn't grow up.
(13:15):
I remember when my dad put ashower in downstairs.
That was really weird to me andyou know, yeah, it was kind of a
big deal and so, yeah, thenthere were more options.
And you know, yeah, it was kindof a big deal and and so, yeah,
then there were more options.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
But you know, just back back in the day, okay way
long before us, that was kind ofespecially when you had larger
families.
I imagine that was a processthat people had to go through.
But I was reading somethingsomewhere, not not that long ago
, but it was like a largerfamily, but the dad got the
water when it was clean and theneverybody else got what was
(13:50):
kind of left over.
And my question was when didthe mom get her bath?
Nobody talked about the mom.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Women and children.
I think it was the dad and thenthe mom.
I remember what you're talkingabout and then it was, because
that's where the term don'tthrow the baby out with the
bathwater.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I would be emptying that shit out, cleaning and then
having my own, Just like okay,I bathed all of you.
We're good, I'm going to havemy quiet time.
I'm locking the door now.
You know, yeah, anyway, just athought, but hopefully we were
able to get clean too.
The women were able to getclean too.
(14:27):
What about like hair removal ingeneral, just like legs?
Do you feel like that?
It's a very American thing,because in Europe and a lot of
places in Europe it's like hairylegs for women are kind of sexy
, I guess, is it?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
though I actually this brings me back I was, I
forget what store I was at, butit was probably just a couple of
weeks ago, and there was a girlwho it's.
It's almost like sometimespeople, I feel like, go out of
their way to prove pointsbecause it's cold outside, it's
the middle of winter, but no,we're wearing shorts and short
(15:03):
sleeves and short shorts andhairiest legs I've ever seen.
How old was she?
I just I couldn't figure it outProbably early 20s yeah, kind
of that granola vibe, no it wasI, I don't know what kind of
vibe, but it just really caughtme off guard.
(15:23):
But to your point, yeah, we, wetend to do that, america.
I don't know if, um, hairy legsis sexy, could be to some
people.
Everybody has a fetish, Isuppose.
Yeah, like, maybe that could be, yeah fetish yeah I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I know in other countries it is different than
it is here.
We just want to be as hairlessas possible, although I know
people that have women that havehairy armpits and stuff and
they're, you know, very feminineand they just have a different
way of looking at things, youknow.
So it's different than what thequote norm is.
It doesn't bother me, I don'tcare Men.
The quote norm is it doesn'tbother me, I don't care if men
(15:59):
have hairy armpits.
I personally wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I don't like that Correct.
Yeah, I don't think I'd likethat I guess I was sounding a
little judgy.
What In regard to that person?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I saw no you weren't sounding judgy.
It's just different.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It just really was just, yeah, very different.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
If you were a judgy, you would have walked her over
to Safeway and gotten some, youknow, razors or something, I
suppose.
No, I said girl, can we have atalk?
Hey, here's the barbershop.
Let me take you in.
Really, it's my turn.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
To your point, though , like I didn't grow up getting
a lot of grooming advice from mymom, I was very observant in
watching my sisters, whoprobably didn't get a lot either
, and everybody is just kind oflearning as they go and figuring
things out on their own.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
What do you think they're figuring it out from?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
That's what I'm saying.
You figured it out from yoursisters.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Do you think now they're figuring it out from
like social media?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Well now, yeah, there's all of that on social
media.
You can't have anythingstinking.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
There's like too many options out there.
They got stuff for everything,yeah.
And now that?
Tiktok's banned temporarilythere will not be any how-to
videos.
People are going to be jumpingover to YouTube for those how-to
videos right.
So we talked about horseshowers, we talked about
grooming essentials and stuffOne thing that I feel like if I
(17:26):
could share with men who have abeard, which I'm not a big beard
person in the first place, it'sgot to be well coiffed, you
know, really nicely put together.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And there's coiffed.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
There goes Julie with her fancy words again, it's not
a fancy word, it's just they'vegot to be, you know, like, they
got to have their shit puttogether, that's all.
But I love it when there's likea clean line, like a clean line
.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And it's not like they just let it grow, like
they're Grizzly Jackson orsomething.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, they got to line that shit up.
Line that shit up just likethey line up you know.
Whatever else they're lining up, line it up, get it all going,
make it look purposeful.
Looks like you took some timeand some energy.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
It's kind of sexy, I think, just saying I take a
picture with my four boys.
There's like more hair in that,it's like holy smokes, but
they're very well clothed.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I mean, I just saw Isaac leave and he's looking
great and I'm here.
I'm asking all these questionsabout his beard.
So does that itch?
No, did it itch when youstarted growing it?
No, I was like it's really long.
He looks at me like I am thestrangest woman ever.
Who is this woman?
But he tolerates me, so that'sall that matters.
But that kind of goes back tothat manscaping thing.
(18:34):
So I kind of love it when menembrace a lot of that.
I mean, they can be very cleanpeople, but they just don't like
have those impeccable groominghabits, like their nails aren't
necessarily completely clean,maybe they work with their hands
or they've got the beard thinggoing on, or, you know, their
hair doesn't have like they needa haircut kind of a thing.
(18:56):
Those are all very easy thingsto fix if people really know to
fix them.
But I think, or if they care,you know frankly, they may not
care.
Their their wife or thegirlfriend or partner may not
care either.
So you know what you do, you,but yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I was going to say it's not about easy things to
fix, because we fix things thatare wrong.
So it's not that it's wrong,but they're easy things to do,
right To suggest strongly yeah,yeah, no, I agree with you there
.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I agree with you there, but if we run across
something, you know where we'vegot a.
Well, I don't know if this isgrooming, but it's like I was at
where was I?
I was out showing, I was at anopen house.
I was at an open house, tooksome clients in last weekend and
the listing agent there, shewas darling and we're probably
(19:51):
around the same age.
She was very well put together.
She and I could totally befriends.
I could already figure that out.
But anyway, when I walked in,we're chatting, she goes like
this.
She goes you have lipstickright here and I was like, oh my
God, you are a girl's girl, Ilove you.
Because I had a lipstick, alittle bit of lipstick, on my
tooth.
How long was I going to walkaround with that?
Nobody telling me, and it'slike I'm always.
I'm a big fan of an advocate ofwatching after your girl.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You know if you see something that's kind of girl
code yeah, bat in the cave Doyou know what that is?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Bat in the cave?
Yep, that was a Nordstrom thing, was it Cosmetics, nordstrom
cosmetics?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I always thought they said bat in the cave, like if
you've got a booger in your noseor something.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yes, that's what it is Bat in the cave.
Bat in the cave.
If you run across, you know,like when I see things like guys
taking it a little bit to theextreme, like spray tanning and
their orange.
I don't like that.
I like them to be morenaturally tan whereas we do it.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
There's probably plenty of people that like that,
though.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I know and I think about you know like we live in
the Northwest, where we'rebasically blue gray, you know,
half of the year, so having alittle color on your skin is a
delightful thing, but I'm notvery good at putting on all of
that tanning stuff right.
We have a friend who does itlike all year round and she's
really really good at it and itlooks really good.
It's very natural looking, butI just don't see guys doing it
(21:18):
as much.
I feel like it's a little bit Idon't know.
That would be weird for me tosee that.
Well, I mean the guys, that theguy who goes spray tanning?
That's the question.
No, because you like black guys, they wouldn't.
Well, I'm an equal opportunityperson, michelle.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Top of mind, I never really even thought about that.
But yeah, that's why my mandon't need any of that.
Man don't need any.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
We're going to speak for Michelle's man, because
Julie is currently single, so wedon't have anybody in mind that
needs to have a straight tan,or that.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I can encourage not to at this point.
I don't know that that would bea thing for me honestly.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
No, that's not.
I, I don't know what about.
Um, okay, here's one that I wasgonna I'll share with you.
But I actually got it from myhair girl right, and she, she
has beautiful skin, so let'sjust start with that.
She's got every product youcould possibly imagine I would
send.
Every time I get my hair done,I come home and she sends me a
link and I buy something new andshe's not even getting paid for
(22:20):
it.
You know, that's the funny part.
But her new thing is skincare,you know, and we've got all our
serums and all this stuff andshe gets this.
It's called butt paste actually, it's like all natural.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Why have I heard of this?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, I don't know.
I have it upstairs, I'll showit to you, but it's white and it
just comes in this tub but it'slike, uh, it's kind of like
desitin, but it's natural, likeum for healing and you know,
like, if you think about puttingit on a baby's butt, right,
it's going to be if they have arash or their bottoms hurt or
whatever.
So it's not for it's notintended for your face.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Is it intended for your butt, oh?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
okay.
But, it's called butt paste.
It's called butt paste.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, but you put it on your face.
And you put it on your face.
She told me to do it and I'vedone it a couple times.
I've only done it a coupletimes so far.
And one time Jared was stayingin the cottage and back and he
came in I was like warning, I'vegot this white shit on my face.
And he had Delilah the littlegirl with her and I'm like okay,
so I don't scare her.
But yeah, you just put it onlike a mask and then just leave
(23:28):
it on for you know, I don't know, half hour or whatever, and
then you just gently wipe it offand your skin, just hydration.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, just for yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I don't know.
It just works and I like it.
Does it smell good?
There's no smell to it, becauseDesitin doesn't smell good.
It doesn't have a smell, it'sall natural stuff, it doesn't
have any chemicals or anythingin it?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, it still could have a smell.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
But I get into all this stuff.
I've got Michelle and Eileen,who are both divas when it comes
to all of the things to do withyour face and your wrinkles,
and, oh my gosh, eileen gave mewhat is that thing called?
I don't know, but it's thislittle wand thingy where you go
and it feels actually reallygood.
It's called, it's a certainkind of metal.
She kept saying, and I don'tknow what it was, but you go
(24:09):
like this around your eyes.
And because she was trying totell me, julie, there's no way
to get rid of the bags underyour eyes except maybe do
something like this.
And I just still have a hardtime with the fact that they
won't go away.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Well, it's kind of like you know, also, if you
think about the I don't knowwell, no, but the why can't I
think of what it's called fordrainage?
Oh, lymphatic, lymphatic, yeah,totally escapes my brain.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I use castor oil with a lymphatic drainage tool.
Yeah, I just don't have thepatience for a lot of that stuff
.
But it's kind of like my funSunday routine, like Sunday
night I get a lot of that stuffdone and have my little you know
whatever my little Korean facemask or whatever I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
If you think about it , those kind of are hidden
grooming.
Yeah Well, not hidden, butgrooming secrets.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It's not like we hide them from our partner, but
there's probably a lot more thatwe do that they don't realize.
You know, as far as that stuffgoes In a lot of ways do they
even care.
But then would they care if youdidn't do it?
They don't know any better.
They'd probably notice.
Yeah, they would probablynotice Over time.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
They would probably notice if, just like anything
else, probably noticed if youknow if you're not you know
trimming the bush and they'dprobably notice if you're not
clipping your nails.
They'd probably notice ifyou're not trimming that nose
hair, for me, anyways.
(25:43):
So there's things that wouldwould be noticed, like if you
stop doing them and I don't sitthere and trim my nose hair in
front of my guy obviously.
So in a way, I guess that iskind of one of the grooming
things that I do, that I do Likeit's not, like I hide it from
him but it's not like.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Why does he need to be in the?
Why does he need to be in thebathroom?
When you're trimming your nose?
Okay, so think about.
Have you ever been to the gym?
And people are very comfortablein the gym.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
It's a little frightening.
Are we going to talk about thisnow?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, but are they secret grooming habits when
you've got you know?
I mean, they're just takingcare of their bodies, right?
They're just doing it in frontof everybody in such a manner
that is a little concerningsometimes.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
So they're not secret , not there at that time.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Well they're secret, because there are only women
there.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I was at the gym the other day and of course you know
I sauna quite a bit and thesauna can be a really
interesting place at times.
Right, people wear clothes inthere, right?
No, not always I do.
I usually.
Sometimes I'll wear a bathingsuit, sometimes I just have
shorts, with a bathing suit top.
Sometimes, I'm in my workoutleggings with a workout top.
(26:52):
It just depends, but yeah.
So that's pretty much thegeneral in there.
But there are times and it'soften where you get that one
they just come in either withjust nothing on top or nothing
at all.
They come in with nothing atall and they just do their thing
(27:13):
.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Do they put a towel down before they sit?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
down.
Sometimes they'll get up,they'll put a towel down, but
they'll scoot down and they gottheir legs up on the wall and
all kinds of things.
I just try to like not payattention, but they make you
know they're pushing every bitof air out of their body that
they can, the other day, getback to the other day, because
(27:37):
this hasn't happened often, butthis, just this, did happen the
other day and she was like, justlike clearing her throat
completely of any kind ofblemish, of any kind that was
within her.
And you know, I could hear herout there in the hallway and
then in the sauna passing gas,like I don't know.
(28:02):
Just like I said, getting everybit of air out of her body or
phlegm of any kind was happeningand it was.
So she chucked the loogie, orwas she?
just like swallowing, she wasback there in the shower, I
don't know.
Oh, I thought you meant she waslike in the sauna itself Back
there in the shower.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I don't know what she was doing.
Okay, I thought you meant shewas like in the sauna itself.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
But I thought when she was done I'm like, okay,
hopefully we're done with that,right, so I can try to meditate
in the sauna here.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
And nope, we were not done.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's kind of excessive, I mean it's secret to
everybody else, but it's likeyou don't need to be like it was
a process, man.
I heard it again and again andthen I by the time I was leaving
she was still at it back there.
And I've never in my life so Iknow.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
And so some of those things I'm like Okay, I'm glad
you are so comfortable with yourbody that you feel compelled to
pick your ass in front ofeveryone and their mother, to
shave your lips, whatever it isyou're going to do, seriously,
in front of other people at theshop.
Now, these are all things thateverybody does, right, they're
all getting themselves clean orwhatever they've got, whatever
(29:11):
they're doing, but I just don'treally like to see that.
I don't need to see that.
Yeah, I don't.
So when you do it, why would Isee it when some perfect
stranger?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
does it, yeah, so I guess that's kind of my point,
what I was talking about before.
There's things we do that arenot necessarily oh, I don't want
them to know that I do this.
I mean, there are things likethat, everybody does.
A lot of people do maybe noteverybody, but things that
everybody, almost everybody,does, but things that everybody,
almost everybody does, and it'sjust not something that you're
(29:42):
going to do out in the open,even with your partner there.
Eventually, maybe some I meaneventually we all poop in front
of our partner, or maybe not infront of, but you know, if the
sound comes out, it's not asdevastating as it was when you
were first dating I was talking.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I was talking to this couple is engaged and the guy
is like he is letting him ripand you know, does the classic
pull the covers over the headthing, probably the whole bit
and the girl's like I would bemortified if I did that and I
think he would be mortified too,and and I'm like what a double
(30:19):
standard, first of all.
Second of all, it's like Itotally get it, because you get
to a point, but there's got tobe I don't know a point in time
where you're like can you leavea little bit to the imagination?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I don't need to know all the details.
It's kind of like when you'regiving birth and they see
everything more than you see,you know, they have a completely
different interpretation thenext time they're looking at it,
you know, and it's not pretty,usually A little pro tip If you
are new in the relationship andyou do need to poop, turn the
(30:54):
bathtub water on and run it, orthe sink water on or both, if
you need a little backgroundnoise so you can try to, you
know, let the things escape,that might be make a little
noise or michelle goes.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
They're at a hotel.
She'll just go down to thelobby bathroom.
Yeah, I have done that before.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah, I think we all have all right, well, I forgot
about that.
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So we've talked about some of these secret grooming
habits.
I think what it kind of boilsdown to is it's important to
take care of yourself, right?
Yes, it is detailed routinesthan others.
Some people care about somethings other people don't care
about.
(31:40):
And then when you're with yourpartner I think, especially as
you're kind of like new even ina relationship and stuff, it's
like you kind of want to presentwith your best foot forward,
but there's going to be thingsthat you're going to slip on
down the road and when it comes,to the grooming.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
We're all humans.
We don't need to be embarrassedabout things that our bodies do
.
I mean, really, it's you know,it is what it is.
And there's a book for toddlerscalled Everybody Poops, so just
remember that.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
She reflects on that book quite often, apparently.
Are you going to ring the bellagain?
Do you have a question for me?
I do have a question, oh geez.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What is it?
There's that ring again.
So my question is in regard tovacationing is relaxing better
or activities better when you goon vacation?
So, like you know, you're goingto go to Hawaii and we're just
going to, you know, kind ofchill by the beach side or by
(32:41):
the pool and have a cocktail andchill, or we're going to, like
go do the bungee cord thing orthe what is that thing called
that.
You can, you know, like hold onto zip lining or the hike?
Are we going to go out on thecatamaran and go see all the
sites like activities?
(33:02):
What do you think is better?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Ideally is when you can have a combination of two.
So in my thought process, I'mall about the chill by the pool
with the margarita and a book inmy hand and put some oil on me
and call it good.
I'm good, I'm happy as a clam,I have my music, whatever.
But there's destinationvacations where that's not
(33:26):
really how you're using yourtime.
So let's say I was to go toEurope.
Let's say I was going to go toSpain.
I've been to Spain we talkedabout this the other day but
I've never been to the beachesof Spain.
I've been to Spain we talkedabout this the other day, but
I've never been to the beachesof Spain and I would love to be
able to experience that.
So I would try to mix in likedestination type stuff where
you're learning things about thearea or the culture or whatever
(33:49):
go to the museums, whateveryou're doing, and then mix in
the chill days with it.
But other than that, if I hadto choose, I would definitely
choose Sandy Beach MargaritaMusic book.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Oh, we're the same on that then.
I thought maybe we would differa little bit.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It depends on what the vacation is.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I think you found that out about me when we went
to New Orleans.
I was so surprised Becauseshe's like do you want to do the
whatever there was thismotorboat like alligator, I
don't even know what things orgo to her the cemeteries, or do.
There were more than a fewdifferent excursions that she
was like do you want to go?
Do you want to go?
Because we were there for mybirthday and she was.
(34:30):
She was just like you knowshe's like no, I want mimosas.
And I'm like we did that we justknow.
Can we just like upstairs andlay by the pool and just like
hang out?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
And I've never done that in New Orleans.
I've never.
This is the only time I've everdone that and it was so awesome
.
But usually you know, whenwe're doing those kind of long
weekend things, it's you knowwe're, we go to Vegas, we're
sitting, that's the idea right,yeah, yeah, yeah, there's just
so much to see and do there.
That's the idea, right?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, there's just so much to see and do there.
That is more my vibe.
But you're right, like Europe,I might be going there later
this year.
You are going, yeah, we'regoing, and so that is going to
be a little bit different.
Yeah, I won't say once in alifetime.
I'm not going to narrow it downto that, but neither one of us
have been to these places, andso sure, yeah, it's going to be
(35:24):
a lot more exploring than normal, and I think, as I'm saying,
that out loud.
It's a different type ofvacation to your point.
So, mexico you know.
Yeah, give me a.
Let me belly up to the bar inthe pool and that sounds amazing
.
I know it's amazing right nowwhich is what we tried to do
last year and it didn't happen.
But yeah, I think it can be agood combination.
But I'm with you If it's asandy beach or a pool or
(35:47):
whatever, I'm happy to do that.
Nobody has to go out of theirway to try to entertain me.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
No, you are the easiest person to vacation with,
honestly.
So easy to vacation with superchill, totally go with the flow.
It's.
It's pretty nice.
I, I love long you know I liketo plan stuff.
So I have things to look forwardto.
But I love long weekends, youknow, like long weekends where
there's a purpose.
So like, for example, the Hawksschedule is already.
(36:18):
We already know who the Hawksare playing next season.
We don't know when, we justknow what the away games are and
that sort of thing.
And Andrew, my son, was talkingabout how he's he's never been
to Nashville and we're going tobe playing in Nashville and I'm
like what a perfect opportunityto go and check out, because
he's only like what two hours orsomething away from there, so
(36:41):
we can go to Nashville, I canshow him where all the stuff is
and go see the game.
But it's fun becauseeverybody's wearing their
jerseys and it's like there'sall this camaraderie because all
these people are around.
So New Orleans was one place.
It was super fun.
I met the nicest people there.
We lost, but that's beside thepoint, but it was a good reason
(37:02):
to go, I guess.
So anyway, yeah, that was areally long way of saying can I
just like permanently go onvacation?
Not quite ready for that?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
We're getting there, we're getting there.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
So, anyway, tiktok's banned.
I'm really sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah, we're sorry and I'm really sorry to hear that,
yeah, we're sorry.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Tiktok is temporarily unavailable.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
But Donald Trump is going to fix everything.
I've got the big W going onthat, whatever.
Stay tuned, everybody, becausewe're going to have an episode
coming up.
We're going to talk about someof these things in regard to the
TikTok ban.
We're going to have a guest onwho has a lot of interesting
opinions and information withregard to it, and I think we'll
(37:44):
like let some of the conspiracytheories out there you know
swirl about as we talk aboutsome of these things.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I think it's going to be a live episode.
I think this would be a greatone to do our live on with our
next one, so let's give that ashot.
We're kind of trying to figureout how that affects everybody
and there's definitely so manydifferent opinions out there.
It's kind of an interestingtime.
Anyway, on that note, we are onthe socials, right.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
All of them except for TikTok.
All of them except for TikTok.
Actually, actually, we arethere, but you can't see us
there.
So there is that.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
And we would love to hear your thoughts on the secret
grooming habits, and just maybewe missed something that you
could share a little tidbitabout.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Here you go, share them anonymously in our DMs.
Hit us up in our DMs because ifyou put it in a comment.
We see who you are, so I trulywould like to be entertained and
interested in any that you haveto share that you think are
kind of out there, so we canmaybe talk about them at a
future date, that'd be kind offun, all right.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, with that in mind, we'll chat with you guys
next week.
Thanks for listening and forwatching, and we'll talk to you
later.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
See you later Bye Out .
Hey everybody.
This is Michelle and this isJulie.
Welcome to a blonde, a brunetteand a mic podcast.
What is our podcast all about,you ask?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Well, we're 250 something.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Women with life experience and oh bloody to say
which is exactly what we'regonna do right now.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Shelly Belly Hi, how's it going, girl?
It's going good.
Yeah, it is, yep, hey we'rerecording in a new space.
Today we're like podcast nomads.
Today we're downstairs inMichelle's house and on her
comfy couches because we'rereorganizing the podcast studio.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, and I'm super excited, though, for the outcome
, as am I, because we're goingto have some seriously comfy
couches and everything in there.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So in the meantime, we're just going to sit on
Michelle's comfy couch becausewe have some really juicy, fun
things to talk about today Nowdon't we.
Michelle.
What Going with the flow?
She's going with the flow.
Hey, you've got your mic.
Podcast nomads.
No, you don't have your mic.
You do have your mic.
You have your.
You have your coffee cup?
Oh, yes, I have both.
It has our names on the otherside.
(01:14):
Show it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
There it is anyway um yeah, coffee tastes way better
in this cup.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I like that one a lot .
It's just the perfect size andit's really something that we
got for our podcast guests,which we have been a little
delinquent on sending out.
Okay, I'm taking that part out.
Anyway, what are we talkingabout today?
Michelle, I think this is a funone.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well.
So this came up as a topic andI thought it would be good, as
did Jules, and it has to do withgrooming habits.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Secret grooming habits.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Secret grooming habits that our partners don't
want us to know or we don'tnecessarily share either.
Yeah, so either way.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So both sides of the coin, whichever partner, just
secret grooming habits that wedo not share.
Well, we were talking aboutthis a little bit before we got
started and you had this funnystory you were telling me.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Well, no, I was just because, as, yeah, as we were
talking about it, it brought meback to somebody I know that
shared this with me actually along time ago.
So when you brought this up, Itotally knew what you were
talking about, and she wastelling me how she dated this
guy that thought it was weirdthat she didn't shower every day
(02:41):
.
Right, and I mean, I don'tshower every day, I don't shower
every day but so she wastelling me this.
She was like so there weretimes when I would stay or he
would stay, that I would just goin and pretend like I was
taking a shower and I'm like howdid that happen?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Just turn the water on, got my face wet, you know
and it probably rolled rightinto what we call like a marine
shower or a whore shower.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So what is that?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So well, I'd always heard it as a marine shower, and
then our friend Carol told meit's called a whore shower.
Basically, you just do yourpits and privates.
Yeah, peas, the peas.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Pits and privates.
Do your pits and privates.
Yeah, peas, the peas.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Pits and privates, the pits and privates I mean.
I always thought and then puton cologne.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I was going to say.
That's what I always thought ahorse shower was just that.
Let's just like spray a bunchof cologne on us and here we go.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Kind of reminds me of all those guys that used to
come into downtown SeattleNordstrom and they would spray
like 15 different colognes onthemselves.
Yes, yes, they would, I don'tthink it was really making that
big of a difference.
As a matter of fact, itprobably was making it worse,
but you know.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Honestly, can we talk about just that for a second?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Smokers do that.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Okay, smokers do that .
Smokers this is off topic, butsmokers do that.
It makes me think of peoplethat smoke.
They go smoke and they comeback in and they spray
themselves with perfume,thinking that the smell is gone.
And let me tell you, girls,guys, the smell is not gone.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It's not gone.
It's not gone and, having beenpeople that secretly smoked in
the past, it's a secret.
I was a closet person, justlike I'm a podcast nomad.
I was a closet smoker, okay,you all know.
Now judge me, but not like atypical closet smoker oh no,
pretty typical.
Yeah, mary and I were.
I mean, this is going back towhen she came back from Germany,
(04:34):
when she was 19.
And all of a sudden, I mean,I'm so cigarettes.
Well, it's ends up on yourfingers and I don't care what
anybody says.
It's in your hair, it gets inyour clothes, it's like it just
it doesn't go away.
So people that think thatcologne is going to solve the
problem, or gum comes out yourpores Just like anything when
you.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
It's just like that.
We're a little off topic.
But it reminds me too of theperson that ate garlic the night
before, or I think of thatgarlic or onions, and it's just
seeping out the pores.
You totally know they did itSame thing with cigarettes.
People, you're not going tocover that shit up with perfume,
but you really notice this atthe gym.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You notice at the gym and I can remember like younger
, when I was younger, just likehaving gone out or something,
and I had a gym, like a meetingwith a trainer in the morning,
and I was definitely.
You know, I didn't showerbefore I went to the gym.
I think a lot of people do that.
I don't really do that becauseI usually don't really get that
dirty, but I don't.
I just throw my hair in aponytail or whatever.
(05:33):
I don't go hit the showerbefore I go to the gym.
But in this particular case Iprobably wouldn't have mattered
because once you got sweaty it'slike all that stuff's coming
out of your pores, whether it'salcohol or, you know, smoke,
because you've been smoking orin a smoky environment.
Do you think if you smoke, weedthat comes out of your pores?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Do you think so?
Yeah, why not?
I don't know, I've nevernoticed that before.
I mean why would you?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I mean I'm people that.
I know that you know?
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I know that's a goodquestion, but wait, take me back
to showering before the gym.
Who showers before they go tothe gym?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So I know two people that do that Really Guys, yeah,
that do that.
But they're also people thattake three showers a day, which
to me seems like excessive,unless you're in like a really
like a really sweaty environment.
You know, like, if you're in areally hot environment, like in
the south, where it's look at Imade that face in the south
(06:31):
where it's um very humid, it'slike you get out of the shower
and you feel like you need toget back in the shower I hate
that feeling yeah, the midwestis like that too.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, yeah, but I can see why you would take three
showers a day.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But I mean so until I met you, until I started
hanging out with you I shouldsay years ago I was the girl
that would wash my hair everysingle day.
And if I went one day without,I just felt so gross if I didn't
.
Or I remember that one of themanagers at Nordstrom saying
yeah, you know he was explainingsomeone coming to work.
She comes to work and you cantell that you know she's put
together.
(07:06):
And then the next day, I thinkshe just rolled out of bed
because her hair is one of thosebanana clip things, so she
didn't wash her hair.
And I remember him saying thatkind of going well, that's kind
of judgy, it's like she doesn'tneed to wash her hair every
single day, but you can take abody shower without having to
wash your hair.
You know, it just takes foreverfor it to dry and you've got all
this product and blah blah blahprocess, and it doesn't even
(07:29):
get dirty.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's a process.
And to wash your hair, yes,with the product and the blow
drying it and straightening it,whatever it is you do with your
hair either way, it's a processand it is not healthy for your
scalp or your hair to wash itevery day.
It's not no Okay?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So I actually there's something that I ran across
that I kind of already knew.
But as far as your vajayjay,we're going to talk vajayjay for
a second here You're really notsupposed to use a lot of like
soaps, no, and things there too,because it has this natural way
of cleaning itself.
But at the same time you got tofeel fresh.
So I mean, just wash it, justwash it yeah.
(08:11):
But not using a bunch of soapsand stuff, cause you're going to
get like I don't know irritatedor something.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
That takes me down a whole other rabbit hole, so
don't get me started.
So on shaving or something, noon on soaps and things.
You know, body shampoos, allthat stuff with all the things
that they put in them.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
now there's parabens, too many things that you should
not be putting on your body,let alone in your hoo-ha, or on
your hoo-ha or around yourhoo-ha.
Good point, but it's like youknow kind of going back to the
whole pineapple conversation youjust definitely want to be
mindful of you know your regions, you know, and make sure that
they're all nice and fresh.
And when you're in anenvironment, like I said, where
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it's a really sweaty environment, it's like you definitely want
to be mindful of that, you know.
That's why they have thoselittle wet wipes.
And oh, there's one of oursecrets the little wet wipes and
things like that that you takewith you.
I totally will do that,absolutely yes, I do too To feel
fresh, yes, fresh and so clean.
Clean, like that song.
Fresh and so clean clean yeah,so the shower thing Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I just said I don't know.
Showering before the gym seemscounterintuitive to me.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It does to me too, but then these are like men that
probably get sweaty-ish, youknow, and so maybe they just
feel more comfortable that way.
I mean, I would prefer thatthey're showering than not
showering, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So, if it takes, three a day, knock yourself out.
Yeah, go for it guys.
Yeah, no judgment here.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, but there are definitely I mean, I know, women
like that too Secrets andthings that we have or men have.
I mean, we've talked veryopenly about the whole shaving
and the waxing, and I meanmanscaping Womenscaping of
(10:01):
course too, but manscaping.
I see that I'm noticing morethat men are more mindful of
that, which, thank God, you know.
Thank.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
God Okay.
So before we go much furtherinto that, let's just explain
what the manscaping is.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, it's basically just taking care of yourself.
It's the same thing that we do,but I mean, some guys take it
to a little bit further degree.
You know where they're.
Maybe they bodybuild and theyshave their chest or they shave
their arms, but they getmanicures, they get pedicures.
You know?
They're more like metro.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I guess.
Think of, think of the wordlandscaping.
We're manscaping, so we're.
We're trimming and shaping andclearing off and blowing they're
doing the same thing that mostwomen do.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Well, I shouldn't say most women, because there's
plenty of women, that don't.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I suppose as well, that don't yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And on a lot of those things.
It's like I didn't even reallypay attention to a lot of that
stuff until I was a little bitolder, so I'm just going to pull
a fast one on you.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I'm going to ring the bell right now.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So, in the middle of our segment, this is going to be
good, Well, no, and it's reallyno big deal.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
but trim that nose hair or don't trim the nose hair
.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I've never had to do that, but I would say,
absolutely do it.
If you need to Use your ownspecial scissors, put them away,
because you know damn wellyou're using it for other stuff
too.
Don't let them sit around sosomeone else can use them.
They're yours.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
My name is Michelle and I trim my nose hair
Hopefully she uses her ownscissors.
Yes, okay, moving on now one ofmy children asked me once mommy
, why do you have spider webs inyour nose?
So ever since I was, I just Iwas a long ass time ago.
(11:55):
Nobody calls you mommy anymoreI know I clip so I can clip that
shit.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, yep, no, anyway , but it's like even talking to
your kids about this kind ofstuff.
I mean, it's like I guess youcould do it when they're younger
, but as they get older, it'slike I just would like buy one
of those grooming kits and itwould be a gift.
Not that I know whether I mean,I don't know whether they need
it or not or know what to dowith it or whatever but it's
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kind of like I'm justencouraging them to be good for
whoever their future person is,and for themselves, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And I think too, just like anything when it comes to
trauma and childhood trauma andall the things there are, this
is something else that couldpossibly a generational thing be
broken.
I was telling Julie as we weretalking about this this earlier.
I grew up in a family of eightand we took baths on Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I mean talk about not all at the same time.
I was actually not all at thesame time.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
yeah, not all at the same time, uh, but I was joking
that term.
You know, don't throw the babyout with the bath water.
I was number eight.
Eight, I'm the youngest, and wedidn't all share the same bath
water or anything like that, buta few of us would take a bath
the last couple of weeks.
Or even sometimes.
Yeah, so you know.
So I didn't grow up.
(13:15):
I remember when my dad put ashower in downstairs.
That was really weird to me andyou know, yeah, it was kind of a
big deal and so, yeah, thenthere were more options.
And you know, yeah, it was kindof a big deal and and so, yeah,
then there were more options.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
But you know, just back back in the day, okay way
long before us, that was kind ofespecially when you had larger
families.
I imagine that was a processthat people had to go through.
But I was reading somethingsomewhere, not not that long ago
, but it was like a largerfamily, but the dad got the
water when it was clean and theneverybody else got what was
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kind of left over.
And my question was when didthe mom get her bath?
Nobody talked about the mom.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Women and children.
I think it was the dad and thenthe mom.
I remember what you're talkingabout and then it was, because
that's where the term don'tthrow the baby out with the
bathwater.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I would be emptying that shit out, cleaning and then
having my own, Just like okay,I bathed all of you.
We're good, I'm going to havemy quiet time.
I'm locking the door now.
You know, yeah, anyway, just athought, but hopefully we were
able to get clean too.
The women were able to getclean too.
(14:27):
What about like hair removal ingeneral, just like legs?
Do you feel like that?
It's a very American thing,because in Europe and a lot of
places in Europe it's like hairylegs for women are kind of sexy
, I guess, is it?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
though I actually this brings me back I was, I
forget what store I was at, butit was probably just a couple of
weeks ago, and there was a girlwho it's.
It's almost like sometimespeople, I feel like, go out of
their way to prove pointsbecause it's cold outside, it's
the middle of winter, but no,we're wearing shorts and short
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sleeves and short shorts andhairiest legs I've ever seen.
How old was she?
I just I couldn't figure it outProbably early 20s yeah, kind
of that granola vibe, no it wasI, I don't know what kind of
vibe, but it just really caughtme off guard.
(15:23):
But to your point, yeah, we, wetend to do that, america.
I don't know if, um, hairy legsis sexy, could be to some
people.
Everybody has a fetish, Isuppose.
Yeah, like, maybe that could be, yeah fetish yeah I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I know in other countries it is different than
it is here.
We just want to be as hairlessas possible, although I know
people that have women that havehairy armpits and stuff and
they're, you know, very feminineand they just have a different
way of looking at things, youknow.
So it's different than what thequote norm is.
It doesn't bother me, I don'tcare Men.
The quote norm is it doesn'tbother me, I don't care if men
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have hairy armpits.
I personally wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I don't like that Correct.
Yeah, I don't think I'd likethat I guess I was sounding a
little judgy.
What In regard to that person?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I saw no you weren't sounding judgy.
It's just different.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It just really was just, yeah, very different.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
If you were a judgy, you would have walked her over
to Safeway and gotten some, youknow, razors or something, I
suppose.
No, I said girl, can we have atalk?
Hey, here's the barbershop.
Let me take you in.
Really, it's my turn.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
To your point, though , like I didn't grow up getting
a lot of grooming advice from mymom, I was very observant in
watching my sisters, whoprobably didn't get a lot either
, and everybody is just kind oflearning as they go and figuring
things out on their own.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
What do you think they're figuring it out from?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
That's what I'm saying.
You figured it out from yoursisters.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Do you think now they're figuring it out from
like social media?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Well now, yeah, there's all of that on social
media.
You can't have anythingstinking.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
There's like too many options out there.
They got stuff for everything,yeah.
And now that?
Tiktok's banned temporarilythere will not be any how-to
videos.
People are going to be jumpingover to YouTube for those how-to
videos right.
So we talked about horseshowers, we talked about
grooming essentials and stuffOne thing that I feel like if I
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could share with men who have abeard, which I'm not a big beard
person in the first place, it'sgot to be well coiffed, you
know, really nicely put together.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And there's coiffed.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
There goes Julie with her fancy words again, it's not
a fancy word, it's just they'vegot to be, you know, like, they
got to have their shit puttogether, that's all.
But I love it when there's likea clean line, like a clean line
.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And it's not like they just let it grow, like
they're Grizzly Jackson orsomething.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, they got to line that shit up.
Line that shit up just likethey line up you know.
Whatever else they're lining up, line it up, get it all going,
make it look purposeful.
Looks like you took some timeand some energy.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
It's kind of sexy, I think, just saying I take a
picture with my four boys.
There's like more hair in that,it's like holy smokes, but
they're very well clothed.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I mean, I just saw Isaac leave and he's looking
great and I'm here.
I'm asking all these questionsabout his beard.
So does that itch?
No, did it itch when youstarted growing it?
No, I was like it's really long.
He looks at me like I am thestrangest woman ever.
Who is this woman?
But he tolerates me, so that'sall that matters.
But that kind of goes back tothat manscaping thing.
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So I kind of love it when menembrace a lot of that.
I mean, they can be very cleanpeople, but they just don't like
have those impeccable groominghabits, like their nails aren't
necessarily completely clean,maybe they work with their hands
or they've got the beard thinggoing on, or, you know, their
hair doesn't have like they needa haircut kind of a thing.
(18:56):
Those are all very easy thingsto fix if people really know to
fix them.
But I think, or if they care,you know frankly, they may not
care.
Their their wife or thegirlfriend or partner may not
care either.
So you know what you do, you,but yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I was going to say it's not about easy things to
fix, because we fix things thatare wrong.
So it's not that it's wrong,but they're easy things to do,
right To suggest strongly yeah,yeah, no, I agree with you there
.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I agree with you there, but if we run across
something, you know where we'vegot a.
Well, I don't know if this isgrooming, but it's like I was at
where was I?
I was out showing, I was at anopen house.
I was at an open house, tooksome clients in last weekend and
the listing agent there, shewas darling and we're probably
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around the same age.
She was very well put together.
She and I could totally befriends.
I could already figure that out.
But anyway, when I walked in,we're chatting, she goes like
this.
She goes you have lipstickright here and I was like, oh my
God, you are a girl's girl, Ilove you.
Because I had a lipstick, alittle bit of lipstick, on my
tooth.
How long was I going to walkaround with that?
Nobody telling me, and it'slike I'm always.
I'm a big fan of an advocate ofwatching after your girl.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You know if you see something that's kind of girl
code yeah, bat in the cave Doyou know what that is?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Bat in the cave?
Yep, that was a Nordstrom thing, was it Cosmetics, nordstrom
cosmetics?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I always thought they said bat in the cave, like if
you've got a booger in your noseor something.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yes, that's what it is Bat in the cave.
Bat in the cave.
If you run across, you know,like when I see things like guys
taking it a little bit to theextreme, like spray tanning and
their orange.
I don't like that.
I like them to be morenaturally tan whereas we do it.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
There's probably plenty of people that like that,
though.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I know and I think about you know like we live in
the Northwest, where we'rebasically blue gray, you know,
half of the year, so having alittle color on your skin is a
delightful thing, but I'm notvery good at putting on all of
that tanning stuff right.
We have a friend who does itlike all year round and she's
really really good at it and itlooks really good.
It's very natural looking, butI just don't see guys doing it
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as much.
I feel like it's a little bit Idon't know.
That would be weird for me tosee that.
Well, I mean the guys, that theguy who goes spray tanning?
That's the question.
No, because you like black guys, they wouldn't.
Well, I'm an equal opportunityperson, michelle.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Top of mind, I never really even thought about that.
But yeah, that's why my mandon't need any of that.
Man don't need any.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
We're going to speak for Michelle's man, because
Julie is currently single, so wedon't have anybody in mind that
needs to have a straight tan,or that.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I can encourage not to at this point.
I don't know that that would bea thing for me honestly.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
No, that's not.
I, I don't know what about.
Um, okay, here's one that I wasgonna I'll share with you.
But I actually got it from myhair girl right, and she, she
has beautiful skin, so let'sjust start with that.
She's got every product youcould possibly imagine I would
send.
Every time I get my hair done,I come home and she sends me a
link and I buy something new andshe's not even getting paid for
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it.
You know, that's the funny part.
But her new thing is skincare,you know, and we've got all our
serums and all this stuff andshe gets this.
It's called butt paste actually, it's like all natural.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Why have I heard of this?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, I don't know.
I have it upstairs, I'll showit to you, but it's white and it
just comes in this tub but it'slike, uh, it's kind of like
desitin, but it's natural, likeum for healing and you know,
like, if you think about puttingit on a baby's butt, right,
it's going to be if they have arash or their bottoms hurt or
whatever.
So it's not for it's notintended for your face.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Is it intended for your butt, oh?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
okay.
But, it's called butt paste.
It's called butt paste.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, but you put it on your face.
And you put it on your face.
She told me to do it and I'vedone it a couple times.
I've only done it a coupletimes so far.
And one time Jared was stayingin the cottage and back and he
came in I was like warning, I'vegot this white shit on my face.
And he had Delilah the littlegirl with her and I'm like okay,
so I don't scare her.
But yeah, you just put it onlike a mask and then just leave
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it on for you know, I don't know, half hour or whatever, and
then you just gently wipe it offand your skin, just hydration.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, just for yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I don't know.
It just works and I like it.
Does it smell good?
There's no smell to it, becauseDesitin doesn't smell good.
It doesn't have a smell, it'sall natural stuff, it doesn't
have any chemicals or anythingin it?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, it still could have a smell.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
But I get into all this stuff.
I've got Michelle and Eileen,who are both divas when it comes
to all of the things to do withyour face and your wrinkles,
and, oh my gosh, eileen gave mewhat is that thing called?
I don't know, but it's thislittle wand thingy where you go
and it feels actually reallygood.
It's called, it's a certainkind of metal.
She kept saying, and I don'tknow what it was, but you go
(24:09):
like this around your eyes.
And because she was trying totell me, julie, there's no way
to get rid of the bags underyour eyes except maybe do
something like this.
And I just still have a hardtime with the fact that they
won't go away.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Well, it's kind of like you know, also, if you
think about the I don't knowwell, no, but the why can't I
think of what it's called fordrainage?
Oh, lymphatic, lymphatic, yeah,totally escapes my brain.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I use castor oil with a lymphatic drainage tool.
Yeah, I just don't have thepatience for a lot of that stuff
.
But it's kind of like my funSunday routine, like Sunday
night I get a lot of that stuffdone and have my little you know
whatever my little Korean facemask or whatever I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
If you think about it , those kind of are hidden
grooming.
Yeah Well, not hidden, butgrooming secrets.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It's not like we hide them from our partner, but
there's probably a lot more thatwe do that they don't realize.
You know, as far as that stuffgoes In a lot of ways do they
even care.
But then would they care if youdidn't do it?
They don't know any better.
They'd probably notice.
Yeah, they would probablynotice Over time.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
They would probably notice if, just like anything
else, probably noticed if youknow if you're not you know
trimming the bush and they'dprobably notice if you're not
clipping your nails.
They'd probably notice ifyou're not trimming that nose
hair, for me, anyways.
(25:43):
So there's things that wouldwould be noticed, like if you
stop doing them and I don't sitthere and trim my nose hair in
front of my guy obviously.
So in a way, I guess that iskind of one of the grooming
things that I do, that I do Likeit's not, like I hide it from
him but it's not like.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Why does he need to be in the?
Why does he need to be in thebathroom?
When you're trimming your nose?
Okay, so think about.
Have you ever been to the gym?
And people are very comfortablein the gym.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
It's a little frightening.
Are we going to talk about thisnow?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, but are they secret grooming habits when
you've got you know?
I mean, they're just takingcare of their bodies, right?
They're just doing it in frontof everybody in such a manner
that is a little concerningsometimes.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
So they're not secret , not there at that time.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Well they're secret, because there are only women
there.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I was at the gym the other day and of course you know
I sauna quite a bit and thesauna can be a really
interesting place at times.
Right, people wear clothes inthere, right?
No, not always I do.
I usually.
Sometimes I'll wear a bathingsuit, sometimes I just have
shorts, with a bathing suit top.
Sometimes, I'm in my workoutleggings with a workout top.
(26:52):
It just depends, but yeah.
So that's pretty much thegeneral in there.
But there are times and it'soften where you get that one
they just come in either withjust nothing on top or nothing
at all.
They come in with nothing atall and they just do their thing
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.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Do they put a towel down before they sit?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
down.
Sometimes they'll get up,they'll put a towel down, but
they'll scoot down and they gottheir legs up on the wall and
all kinds of things.
I just try to like not payattention, but they make you
know they're pushing every bitof air out of their body that
they can, the other day, getback to the other day, because
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this hasn't happened often, butthis, just this, did happen the
other day and she was like, justlike clearing her throat
completely of any kind ofblemish, of any kind that was
within her.
And you know, I could hear herout there in the hallway and
then in the sauna passing gas,like I don't know.
(28:02):
Just like I said, getting everybit of air out of her body or
phlegm of any kind was happeningand it was.
So she chucked the loogie, orwas she?
just like swallowing, she wasback there in the shower, I
don't know.
Oh, I thought you meant she waslike in the sauna itself Back
there in the shower.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I don't know what she was doing.
Okay, I thought you meant shewas like in the sauna itself.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
But I thought when she was done I'm like, okay,
hopefully we're done with that,right, so I can try to meditate
in the sauna here.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
And nope, we were not done.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's kind of excessive, I mean it's secret to
everybody else, but it's likeyou don't need to be like it was
a process, man.
I heard it again and again andthen I by the time I was leaving
she was still at it back there.
And I've never in my life so Iknow.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
And so some of those things I'm like Okay, I'm glad
you are so comfortable with yourbody that you feel compelled to
pick your ass in front ofeveryone and their mother, to
shave your lips, whatever it isyou're going to do, seriously,
in front of other people at theshop.
Now, these are all things thateverybody does, right, they're
all getting themselves clean orwhatever they've got, whatever
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they're doing, but I just don'treally like to see that.
I don't need to see that.
Yeah, I don't.
So when you do it, why would Isee it when some perfect
stranger?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
does it, yeah, so I guess that's kind of my point,
what I was talking about before.
There's things we do that arenot necessarily oh, I don't want
them to know that I do this.
I mean, there are things likethat, everybody does.
A lot of people do maybe noteverybody, but things that
everybody, almost everybody,does, but things that everybody,
almost everybody does, and it'sjust not something that you're
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going to do out in the open,even with your partner there.
Eventually, maybe some I meaneventually we all poop in front
of our partner, or maybe not infront of, but you know, if the
sound comes out, it's not asdevastating as it was when you
were first dating I was talking.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I was talking to this couple is engaged and the guy
is like he is letting him ripand you know, does the classic
pull the covers over the headthing, probably the whole bit
and the girl's like I would bemortified if I did that and I
think he would be mortified too,and and I'm like what a double
(30:19):
standard, first of all.
Second of all, it's like Itotally get it, because you get
to a point, but there's got tobe I don't know a point in time
where you're like can you leavea little bit to the imagination?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I don't need to know all the details.
It's kind of like when you'regiving birth and they see
everything more than you see,you know, they have a completely
different interpretation thenext time they're looking at it,
you know, and it's not pretty,usually A little pro tip If you
are new in the relationship andyou do need to poop, turn the
(30:54):
bathtub water on and run it, orthe sink water on or both, if
you need a little backgroundnoise so you can try to, you
know, let the things escape,that might be make a little
noise or michelle goes.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
They're at a hotel.
She'll just go down to thelobby bathroom.
Yeah, I have done that before.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah, I think we all have all right, well, I forgot
about that.
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So we've talked about some of these secret grooming
habits.
I think what it kind of boilsdown to is it's important to
take care of yourself, right?
Yes, it is detailed routinesthan others.
Some people care about somethings other people don't care
about.
(31:40):
And then when you're with yourpartner I think, especially as
you're kind of like new even ina relationship and stuff, it's
like you kind of want to presentwith your best foot forward,
but there's going to be thingsthat you're going to slip on
down the road and when it comes,to the grooming.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
We're all humans.
We don't need to be embarrassedabout things that our bodies do
.
I mean, really, it's you know,it is what it is.
And there's a book for toddlerscalled Everybody Poops, so just
remember that.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
She reflects on that book quite often, apparently.
Are you going to ring the bellagain?
Do you have a question for me?
I do have a question, oh geez.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What is it?
There's that ring again.
So my question is in regard tovacationing is relaxing better
or activities better when you goon vacation?
So, like you know, you're goingto go to Hawaii and we're just
going to, you know, kind ofchill by the beach side or by
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the pool and have a cocktail andchill, or we're going to, like
go do the bungee cord thing orthe what is that thing called
that.
You can, you know, like hold onto zip lining or the hike?
Are we going to go out on thecatamaran and go see all the
sites like activities?
(33:02):
What do you think is better?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Ideally is when you can have a combination of two.
So in my thought process, I'mall about the chill by the pool
with the margarita and a book inmy hand and put some oil on me
and call it good.
I'm good, I'm happy as a clam,I have my music, whatever.
But there's destinationvacations where that's not
(33:26):
really how you're using yourtime.
So let's say I was to go toEurope.
Let's say I was going to go toSpain.
I've been to Spain we talkedabout this the other day but
I've never been to the beachesof Spain.
I've been to Spain we talkedabout this the other day, but
I've never been to the beachesof Spain and I would love to be
able to experience that.
So I would try to mix in likedestination type stuff where
you're learning things about thearea or the culture or whatever
(33:49):
go to the museums, whateveryou're doing, and then mix in
the chill days with it.
But other than that, if I hadto choose, I would definitely
choose Sandy Beach MargaritaMusic book.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Oh, we're the same on that then.
I thought maybe we would differa little bit.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It depends on what the vacation is.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I think you found that out about me when we went
to New Orleans.
I was so surprised Becauseshe's like do you want to do the
whatever there was thismotorboat like alligator, I
don't even know what things orgo to her the cemeteries, or do.
There were more than a fewdifferent excursions that she
was like do you want to go?
Do you want to go?
Because we were there for mybirthday and she was.
(34:30):
She was just like you knowshe's like no, I want mimosas.
And I'm like we did that we justknow.
Can we just like upstairs andlay by the pool and just like
hang out?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
And I've never done that in New Orleans.
I've never.
This is the only time I've everdone that and it was so awesome
.
But usually you know, whenwe're doing those kind of long
weekend things, it's you knowwe're, we go to Vegas, we're
sitting, that's the idea right,yeah, yeah, yeah, there's just
so much to see and do there.
That's the idea, right?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, there's just so much to see and do there.
That is more my vibe.
But you're right, like Europe,I might be going there later
this year.
You are going, yeah, we'regoing, and so that is going to
be a little bit different.
Yeah, I won't say once in alifetime.
I'm not going to narrow it downto that, but neither one of us
have been to these places, andso sure, yeah, it's going to be
(35:24):
a lot more exploring than normal, and I think, as I'm saying,
that out loud.
It's a different type ofvacation to your point.
So, mexico you know.
Yeah, give me a.
Let me belly up to the bar inthe pool and that sounds amazing
.
I know it's amazing right nowwhich is what we tried to do
last year and it didn't happen.
But yeah, I think it can be agood combination.
But I'm with you If it's asandy beach or a pool or
(35:47):
whatever, I'm happy to do that.
Nobody has to go out of theirway to try to entertain me.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
No, you are the easiest person to vacation with,
honestly.
So easy to vacation with superchill, totally go with the flow.
It's.
It's pretty nice.
I, I love long you know I liketo plan stuff.
So I have things to look forwardto.
But I love long weekends, youknow, like long weekends where
there's a purpose.
So like, for example, the Hawksschedule is already.
(36:18):
We already know who the Hawksare playing next season.
We don't know when, we justknow what the away games are and
that sort of thing.
And Andrew, my son, was talkingabout how he's he's never been
to Nashville and we're going tobe playing in Nashville and I'm
like what a perfect opportunityto go and check out, because
he's only like what two hours orsomething away from there, so
(36:41):
we can go to Nashville, I canshow him where all the stuff is
and go see the game.
But it's fun becauseeverybody's wearing their
jerseys and it's like there'sall this camaraderie because all
these people are around.
So New Orleans was one place.
It was super fun.
I met the nicest people there.
We lost, but that's beside thepoint, but it was a good reason
(37:02):
to go, I guess.
So anyway, yeah, that was areally long way of saying can I
just like permanently go onvacation?
Not quite ready for that?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
We're getting there, we're getting there.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
So, anyway, tiktok's banned.
I'm really sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah, we're sorry and I'm really sorry to hear that,
yeah, we're sorry.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Tiktok is temporarily unavailable.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
But Donald Trump is going to fix everything.
I've got the big W going onthat, whatever.
Stay tuned, everybody, becausewe're going to have an episode
coming up.
We're going to talk about someof these things in regard to the
TikTok ban.
We're going to have a guest onwho has a lot of interesting
opinions and information withregard to it, and I think we'll
(37:44):
like let some of the conspiracytheories out there you know
swirl about as we talk aboutsome of these things.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I think it's going to be a live episode.
I think this would be a greatone to do our live on with our
next one, so let's give that ashot.
We're kind of trying to figureout how that affects everybody
and there's definitely so manydifferent opinions out there.
It's kind of an interestingtime.
Anyway, on that note, we are onthe socials, right.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
All of them except for TikTok.
All of them except for TikTok.
Actually, actually, we arethere, but you can't see us
there.
So there is that.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
And we would love to hear your thoughts on the secret
grooming habits, and just maybewe missed something that you
could share a little tidbitabout.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Here you go, share them anonymously in our DMs.
Hit us up in our DMs because ifyou put it in a comment.
We see who you are, so I trulywould like to be entertained and
interested in any that you haveto share that you think are
kind of out there, so we canmaybe talk about them at a
future date, that'd be kind offun, all right.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, with that in mind, we'll chat with you guys
next week.
Thanks for listening and forwatching, and we'll talk to you
later.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
See you later Bye Out .
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