March 31, 2025 • 49 mins
What happens when a fitness model and IFBB professional athlete who volunteered for Mothers Against Drunk Drivers finds herself arrested for a DUI? Elise Morgan's powerful, candid journey reveals the unexpected twists life can take with just one decision.
With raw vulnerability, Elise takes us through every humiliating step – from field sobriety tests and handcuffs to overnight jail stays and courtroom appearances. The emotional and financial aftermath ($10,000+ in legal fees) transformed her life in ways she never imagined. Forced to install a breathalyzer in her vehicle for a year, Elise faced daily reminders of her mistake while driving her children to activities.
Yet what begins as a cautionary tale evolves into something profoundly inspirational. Through mandatory alcohol education classes, Elise discovered her passion for helping others transform their lives through mindset work – launching her current career as a life coach, author, and podcast host. Even more remarkably, a breathalyzer mishap during a date led her to meet the man who would become her husband!
This conversation goes beyond simple warnings about drinking and driving to explore deeper questions about redemption, purpose, and finding unexpected gifts in our darkest moments. Michele, Jules, and Elise discuss generational shifts in attitudes toward alcohol, the prevalence of "wine mom" culture, and the simple wisdom of planning ahead with rideshare services. Their authentic exchange reminds us that while we all make mistakes, with the right mindset, our lowest moments can become the foundation for our greatest growth.
Are you ready to take your "spiciness" to the next level?!
Connect with Julee & Michele on Instagram @spicy_midlife_women and send a DM about what resonated most during this episode so they can encourage you with steps forward in your own life.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm Michelle the blonde hey there and I'm Jules
the brunette.
Join us as we dive into all ofthe juicy topics like dating,
women's health, sex politics,relationships and everything in
between.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
We each have our own unique perspective and don't
always see eye to eye, but thatjust makes our conversations
that much more interesting.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
That's right.
So if you're looking for apodcast that's both entertaining
and honest, I think we've gotyou covered.
See eye to eye.
But that just makes ourconversations that much more
interesting.
That's right.
So if you're looking for apodcast that's both entertaining
and honest, I think we've gotyou covered Two authentic women,
both with real talk.
Let's go.
Welcome everyone.
We are so thrilled to have aguest here today with us, elise
Morgan.
Hello, elise, hello, thank youso much for having me.
(00:47):
Yes, michelle is going to do anintro for you, just to make
sure we get it all exactly right.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So excited to have you here.
And yes, she has a wealth ofknowledge and experience all the
kinds.
So I don't want to miss a beatwhen I do this introduction here
for her, because she is aformer personal trainer, fitness
model and IFBB professionalathlete, turned life coach,
author, speaker and podcast hostwith a bold and sassy, yet
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compassionate, approach topersonal empowerment.
I love that.
With a master's degree from theSchool of Hard Knocks and
certifications in life coaching,nlp and sacred ceremonies,
elise is dedicated to helpingindividuals break free from
limiting beliefs and unlocktheir true potential Through
mindset coaching, personalspiritual growth and
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transformation.
Elise leads you on a journey toawaken your soul, embrace your
authentic self and navigatelife's challenges with
confidence.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Who doesn't want?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
that right.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I do Sign me up, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So first before we move on, I just want to ask a
couple of things, because someof our listeners might not know
what IFBB stands for.
So first, let's just a briefexplanation of that.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Okay, it stands for the International Federation of
Bodybuilding.
It's the mother of all whatwould you call that Groups for
all the fitness stuff, that'sthe major league one.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Very cool.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And then NLP.
Nlp is Neuro LinguisticProgramming, and what that
really is in layman's term is wehave pathways in our brain and
it helps us to how we think, andNLP helps us to change our
neuro pathways so that we have amore positive outlook.
(02:39):
Let's say so.
It's like having a pattern ofthinking is a pathway.
That's like a layman's term.
Sure I love that we are allabout positive.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So today we have Elise has agreed to speak with
us on kind of an interestingtopic.
Well, I reached out to findsomeone who had had a DUI
experience from theirperspective not being the person
who was I would say, a victim,I guess you could say of DUI,
and also being a woman.
This is something that wethought would be really
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important to bring to ouraudience, because we've all had
those experiences where we havebeen in circumstances where
we've had a drink or had two orwhatever, and had to make
decisions about what we weredoing.
So we would love to hear yourstory and share it with others
and what you learned from that,because we're hoping that that
will be something we can take toour listeners, that they will
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learn something from.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
So welcome and thank you.
Thank you, I'm glad to be heretoo to give all the different
perspectives and then to go backto what I do, how to remain
positive throughout thisexperience.
And, you know, kudos to youguys, because the first time I'm
telling my story in public.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I love it, thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, free from, for my listeners, you know, they'll.
You know this is.
It was just something that Ikept close to the vest for
various reasons and I'm ready to, you know, be able to speak
about it.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So I don't appreciate that.
We feel very honored that youare, because it's a big deal,
you know, it's life experienceand we all go through stuff.
So it's good that you're readyand we are really, really
willing to hear.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So I have a close friend to your point keeping it
close to the vest.
I was just telling heryesterday that you were going to
be on today and share yourstory and she's been through the
same thing.
She's a mom and all of thestuff, and it's never anything
that you expect to happen.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
No, you don't expect it, especially in my, and I'll
tell the story.
You guys, let me know if youwant to do it more as a question
and answer, if you want me tojust roll with it, because in
hindsight there's a lot of humorto my story and of course, the
subject matter is not humorouswhatsoever.
But what happened to me in theend of the day?
I make humor out of everything.
So for me, first and foremost,I want to make sure the
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listeners know and everyone thatknows me knows, that I'm not an
advocate that you should drinkand drive.
I think that's something youshould not be doing and in fact
I volunteered for MothersAgainst Drunk Drivers.
I mean, I was one of thosepeople that were, for the most
part, pretty, you know, madesure that you didn't do that,
you know even you know one drink, you know.
You know when you're older, onedrink, you know, whatever.
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But I was pretty big on notdrinking and driving, so it's
not like you're.
I want the listeners to hearthat we hear about DWI.
It's not somebody that has like15 suspended licenses and they
have all these problems whichthat could be, but it could be
just your everyday mom who madea mistake.
And so I'll try and condense mystory, because I tend to tell
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my stories really long and funny.
But so, bottom line, I wasdriving my, riding a jet ski
that day and friends of minewere playing volleyball
somewhere on the beach and Iwent to go watch them and I
usually did not drink, evensocially, because I was
competing.
I just didn't.
You know, you didn't.
You know that was something Ialways like to drink.
(06:01):
You know, like have a glass ofwine with dinner and stuff like
that, but you're reallyrefrained, you're not drinking
if you're competing.
Yeah, and that particular day,I think I was starting a
competition diet or whatever itwas the next day, and the
friends were like, come to thebar, it's our friend's birthday.
And I was like I knew I wasgoing to be there for a long
time and I wound't.
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I was dieting all the time andyou think like, oh, that won't
be that strong, so, whatever itwas, I had that and maybe, like,
I think, a shot and that was it, and I and I've drank in my
lifetime and, as I'm sittingthere, I got.
Can we curse on here, cause?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I'm from New York.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I got, I got, I got fucked up, like I was really
fucked up.
And I remember texting friendsand saying like I'm really
messed up and I, we and at thatpoint my friends and I made a
plan to have a designated driver.
So this is the fun.
This is one of the beginningpart of the funny story.
That's not really funny.
So here I am, getting you know,making arrangements for a
designated driver to pick us upon the other side Cause you had
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to get your jet skis over there.
And of course, when you'rebuzzed or pretty messed up,
you're not making the bestdecisions.
So one of the people that I waswith I was the passenger now on
my jet ski to get to the otherside, Because now I don't want
to drive my jet ski, I'm notfeeling that I should, right, so
you get driven to the otherside and when we got there, just
automatic pilot I got off thejet ski, went and got my car to
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pull into the boat ramp to getmy jet ski Because in my mind
I'm not driving.
In my mind I'm like I'm justgetting my jet ski out of the
water so I can park and getpicked up by my designated
driver.
Got it?
So that's the thought process.
So when I got into the boatramp I was having a problem
backing up to go get the jet ski.
I don't know if anyone'slistening that ever drove a boat
trailer.
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It's the opposite of what youthink.
I did not think.
To put my ass up.
So I'm like going back and forthvery slow because it's a boat
ramp, to try and get my jet skiout.
Now, with that, there's a barrestaurant very close to where
the boat ramp is, and as I'mlike going back and forth with
this thing and I'm getting sopissed like I couldn't do it the
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right way, I remember sittingthere, you know, just frustrated
, and all of a sudden I hear acommotion by the side of my car
and I'm like what's going on?
So I get out of my car and youhave to remember, even though I
was, I'm not falling on thefloor, I'm not, you know, like
Right, right You're buzzed, yeah, you buzz.
I get out and I see this ladylaying on the side of like
there's a hill that comes downto where the boat ramp is and
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she's laying there.
So I think she fell becausethere's a lot of people that are
drunk walking around, whatever.
So I'm like oh my God, oh myGod, are you okay?
And it was like three womeneven older than me and then
started screaming at me.
You fucking bitch Like juststarted screaming.
And I was like, and I have noidea.
I'm like oh my God, what'sgoing on?
Then the police, the police,are always there in that parking
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lot.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Right, because it's a bar restaurant.
Police come and I'm like, ohshit, I ran and get my license.
I'm in a frigging you know tanktop and shorts, bathing suit,
and I just know that now I'm alittle nervous because I did
drink.
You know what I mean.
Next thing, I know I'm in the-.
Oh, the field sobriety test thefield sobriety.
I couldn't think of the words.
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Next thing, I know I'm in themiddle of doing that and I
remember like the guy I was withwas like something like don't
blow.
I've never been arrested.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Have you ever heard a guy say that oh sorry, oh yeah,
well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That's part of the fun of this whole thing.
We're going to get to the funnypart, but that's one of them
Like don't glow and you're likeI had no idea what was going on.
And my ex-husband was a policeofficer and did fields of body
tests and I remember him alittle bit saying like don't you
know whatever, so I'm doing afields of body test.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Obviously failed it.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
And then you get the handcuffs put on you and you're
so ashamed Like I remember beinglike, oh my God, and I remember
them being so tight.
You know like please, can youmake these looser on the police
officer?
Like no, you know whatever.
And then you go to the.
I've never been in thatsituation.
You're like you're handcuffedto a table.
I'm freezing because you're wet.
Really, I was just on a jet ski, so horrible.
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So I remember them saying youget a phone call.
So in my head I was like well,who has my car?
Because, knowing me, I probablywould have called my son.
He was probably only 16, but soresponsible but I wanted to
know where the car was.
So the police officer put me onthe phone with a girl that I
didn't even know because he hadher number and she's like I'm
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friends with Joe, one of thefriends I was with that was
arranging for the designateddriver.
She's like I'm friends with him, we have your car, we have his
house, it's parked.
I'm like great.
So I go to say okay, I'm goingto call my son.
And the police was like nope,that was your first phone call.
I'm like, but I didn't tell youto call that person, I just
asked you where my car was.
So that was like that.
And I remember crying.
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I was so crying because he'slike they have to ask you three
times if you'll blow in thatbreathalyzer.
I remember like beingbrainwashed Don't do it, don't
do it.
And then I'm asking him.
I'm crying, I'm like whatshould I do?
And he's like I can't tell youwhat to do and I finally just
blow.
I blow into the breathalyzerand he was just, it was just
like.
He was just so mean to me but Iwound up doing that.
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I got driven to a cell andyou're there overnight and it
was just.
You know, you're not in thatsituation.
You're like you said, you'relike just mom, you know.
I'm not a prude, but I also wasnever arrested before, and then
the other cells.
You hear the women.
They're all talking to eachother.
That's like the weekend.
That's how they spend theirweekends.
Every weekend you could telllike oh, I never got arrested in
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this precinct before.
Like who am I with?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Did you have your own space?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yes At that point I did.
And then you wake up and theyyou know, I don't know what's
going on they wake up, they takeyou in a chain gang and I'll
never forget no way.
There was like a plexiglasswindow and I remember seeing my
reflection in this window andI'm like I just can't believe
this.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Do they put you at least in, like an orange
jumpsuit or something, or areyou still?
Wearing your bikini.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Thank God I usually wear bikinis and thank God that
day typical me, I felt fat,which I guarantee you I was not.
I would kill to look like thatnow.
I wore a tank top and shorts.
So thankfully, because then Iwould have been in a bikini.
You know, I just remember beinghumiliated.
But just to let the listenersknow, because of my background
at that point, I've been reallyinto personal development,
personal growth.
I was just very calm and I justknew that everything, no matter
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what everything's going to beokay.
You know, this is just thesituation I'm in and speaking
about my outfit, the back of myshorts said heartbreaker on them
.
So that was that was fun.
That was fun going to jail withheartbreaker on my ass.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You know what I mean so.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
But so, to condense it, you know you're now, you're,
I guess, in a holding cell tobe taken before a judge and I
guess, because what I waswearing, I was put separate so
that you're in this big cell butI was in like a separate one
again, thankfully.
And then I guess an advocatefor the court comes to talk to
everyone and everyone's gettinglike this young hip, you know
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lawyer, and I get this guy.
I swear to God, he was probably85 years old and he's asking me
, you know, for two people to, Iguess, come and get you
whatever it was.
And I gave him and you have toremember, do you know anyone's
phone number?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It's very hard.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And then do the people that you know the phone
number.
They're the ones that are goingto come bail you out of jail.
I don't know.
I have to know the phone numberto call.
Call this one last was myex-husband.
And so then everyone, it getsbetter.
So then everyone's gettingtheir lawyer coming back and
they're getting their namecalled and they're getting taken
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out.
And here I am waiting andwaiting, and waiting, and here
comes my old man and I'm likewhat's going on?
He's like, well, I didn't getanyone.
I left messages.
I'm like, well, what does thatmean?
You left messages.
I'm sitting here waiting to getout.
Next thing I know I get called.
I'm like, oh, thank God,somebody's bailing me out,
somebody's bailing me out orwhatever you have to do, pay
money.
So then they take me and all ofa sudden I'm being taken out to
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the prison bus.
I'm like, holy shit, I rememberthem putting me on this prison
bus with the other prisoners ina separate thing there too, and
I get taken out to the countyjail.
And now I'm in jail and I'mgetting processed and I kept
asking what's going on.
I don't understand.
I'm on the prison bus and we'redriving to jail and I'm like I
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really didn't have anything.
I have no idea what's going on,but, like I said, calm, always
saying like this is no matterwhat, I'm going to be okay and
like just very positive.
If you will, you get to thejail.
And I've never been there.
I mean it's you don't want togo there, you do not want to go
and this is just jail.
Jail is I forgot?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
there's jail and prison.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Like county jail, at least in New York.
If it's under a year, you go tothis place, and it's over a
year, you go to a prison.
So you go there, you getprocessed I'm talking animals in
there.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's animals, so it's all women in here.
Is this a women's?
So this is a co-ed, just likethe county jail.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Well, this is a co-ed holding middle, the middle
lobby, if you will.
And there, like all these guysin one cell and I'm wearing
heartbreaker shorts, mind you.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So like it is just.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I was, I didn't know where to put myself and they,
they were trying to like, put meby, like a steel beam or
whatever, be getting processedand I don't know what's going on
.
Then they take me to a placewhere it is all women and the
two sheriffs that were there,the women, they were very heavy
set and whatever, and they just-.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
They didn't like you, they didn't like me.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
They didn't like you.
Nope, they showed it andeverybody said I always look
younger than I am.
And back then I probably did.
This is almost like 10 yearsago.
They were pointing at my ageand pointing and then they would
just they didn't like me, they.
I never was so happy to put ona prison suit because I was so
cold well, your clothes had beenwet and everything.
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I could not wait they had.
I didn't care, I put that stuffon, I was so happy.
And then they're like you canmake a phone call.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So I think I called my ex, I called my ex-husband at
that point you're just like Idon't care, I'm calling the ex
yeah, or maybe they told me thathe got the phone call
previously, so I was so confusedand I remember calling him.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
And the joke is he's like oh, I never got a call from
a prisoner before, because if aprisoner makes a call, the
recording is prisoner number4560.
Oh my God.
So I'm like, can you help me?
Whatever he said, and Iremember crying.
Whatever he said, and Iremember crying and I think he
said he asked my brother.
He couldn't do it.
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He was upstate New York, hejust couldn't do it.
So he, like, was trying toarrange somebody to come and get
me.
And what the clincher was thatI was really mad at him for is
that the night before he foundout what happened and that I had
been taken to jail.
And I was like why didn't youdo anything?
Like he could have, like youknow, been there in the morning,
whatever.
And he's like I didn't thinkyou wanted me to know.
Well, all right, maybe that'strue, I have no idea, I'm not
going to bash him right now.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So did your family know where you were overnight?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Nobody.
So let's go back to that.
I'm glad you had that questionbecause my son, who also has a
boating license and also he was16 at the time you know, you
know to tell people where youare.
It's part of the voting thing.
So my son is looking all overfor me and that's how my
ex-husband found out, becausethey go to the boat ramp, mom's
not home.
What's going on?
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You know?
My son thought I'm dead, yeah Iguess my ex-husband was like.
he was a police officer himselfso he's like acquiring, I guess,
hospitals and I found that Igot locked up and sure piece of
him like that.
But I'm not sure.
But at that point I don't knowanything.
I don't know what anybody knowsand what anyone doesn't know.
I'm literally in jail and Iremember no offense to these
people but you're with the drugof society.
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I didn't see too many peoplethat didn't look like they were
there a lot of the time.
I knew I was going to get outof it but I was getting
processed.
Then I was shown where I wasgoing to sleep and I couldn't
understand.
Because I know the law, I knowthat you're going to get out.
It's not like you go to jailfor this.
You get out on bail and you haveto show up in court in a couple
of months, whatever it may be,and I'm like, going up to each
like officer, at each thing Ihad to go to First you had to go
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to the infirmary and then youhad to go to get shot.
I'm like what is going on?
And I'm like excuse me, sir, Idon't think I'm supposed to be
here.
And he's like and he did saythere was something in my next
time I named the system thatthey weren't sure what was going
on.
But obviously they have to keepprocessing.
She's just still gettingprocessed.
It was horrible because you'renot really sure what's going on.
Let's fast forward.
They probably got a call thatI'm getting picked up, whatever
it may be.
I don't know who's coming toget me, I don't know anything.
And when I was going to getreleased, they have me with this
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other girl who's all tatted upand she's pregnant.
And I'm saying to the guy who'spicking me up and he's like I
don't know, they're not verynice.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I don't blame them.
They're around, they're just in.
Their work is horrible.
They're not here to like, makeyou feel better.
Like, oh, let me check to seewho's picking you up.
They just so.
Then she's like you can comewith me and I'm like I know what
you want You're like.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
oh, hail to the.
No, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I just remember you know getting your phone.
I don't know why I had my phonebecause it was wet.
So they gave me the phone and Ithought it was just not charged
and I asked him can I charge myphone for like a minute so I
can call somebody?
They're like nope, not evenallowed to stay in that lobby
area.
You have to leave, like leavethe premises.
So I'm leaving the premises.
You know, I was back in my wetclothes.
It just, it was just horrible,and I remember walking out and
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seeing my ex-husband, his bestfriend, who I used to be also be
friends with.
It could have been my ex-husbandI probably would have been like
on him hysterical crying,holding on to him, and he was
just like oh, you smell like askell Cause he was a police
officer.
He's like oh, I'm like.
I was in jail.
It was so humiliating becauseyou know you didn't like.
I take full responsibility thatyou shouldn't drink at all.
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But in my lifetime I've had oneor two waited hours, drank.
The water didn't feel buzzed atall before you got into a
vehicle.
As an adult.
As a kid, you made stupidmistakes.
Sure, I didn't know what thehell was going on.
As I was sitting in the cell, Iwas like did anyone spike my
drink on?
I didn't know, you know, as Iwas sitting in the cell, I was
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like did anyone spike my drink?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
You know you start to think all these things because
I literally was like I waspretty messed up for the amount
of alcohol.
It's because you were preparingfor your competition.
So you probably didn't haveanything you know.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
a huge substance in your system, even yeah it was
that too, but just for thelisteners, it's a mistake of.
You know, not everyone's a badperson because they had a DWI.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Here's what happened as well, and I want to bring
this to everyone's attention,because it could have been much
worse, so that woman that fellshe claimed that I literally,
like ran her over front of mycar, which, physics wise, it's
impossible because she wasbehind my car.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
You know what I mean.
So it's like, just just in thatsense, and she's claiming this,
I didn't know about any of this, you know, until I got to the
um, the first precinct, and he'slike she's saying you did so.
I'm like I, I would never do.
I did not run anyone over withmy car.
You know, I would, I would knowwhat.
Like I said it wasn't like Iwas completely out of it, I
would know if I hit it, I, I wascrying, I was like I would know
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, if I hit it, was she up on thehill you said.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
She'd fallen on a hill.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Well, there's a hill there and right where she landed
.
So that's what I thoughthappened right.
So I was like I did not hit ahuman being.
I would be devastated.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, and everybody else was standing around there,
they would have noticed too.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
So I was crying.
He's this that now you injuredsomebody, so I find out after
that because there was an injury.
That's why you have to get onbail.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You have to have somebody bail you out, as
opposed to just being released,so you didn't even know you'd
been charged with hittingsomebody at that point.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
No, I didn't know, maybe they said it at court, but
I do remember them saying thatyou can get bailed out, and I
had two people come and theywere told that I wasn't there.
So that's the irony of all this.
It was just all things led tome going out to that jail.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Confusion yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And I'm going to continue the story because it
brought me to here.
You know, this is what peoplehave to do too.
When you're going through stuff, it's always for you.
There's always a lesson,there's always something, and
even if you're in the shittiest,shittiest and you can't bring
yourself to look at it that way,you can try, because something
good is going to come of it, orat least you learn something or
whatever.
Absolutely.
When I finally got home, I sawmy son.
(22:17):
I'm like it was just horrible.
You know what I mean.
And now you have this wholething to deal with.
I just got charged with DWI andfor me, everyone that knew me,
including my son, they're likeyou, you're like an advocate, so
it's just funny in that respect.
So she claimed that.
And then, once I got the policereport, I remember going down
to the precinct and saying thisisn't true.
(22:38):
Did you ask any other witnesses?
They're like no, I'm like.
Why didn't you ask me?
You didn't even ask me becauseI would have said if one I
didn't want, I didn't do it too,if, if, if she got hit by
anything by me, it might've beenthe trailer as I was going back
and forth.
You know, part mostly her fault, cause you shouldn't be there.
That's the only thing I couldthink of, and I felt horrible
(22:59):
that if I had anything to do,she hurt her foot.
So I'm not putting down that Imight've hurt somebody, but it
was her foot, it wasn't anythingcatastrophic.
And the reason why I wanted tosay this is because what if it
wasn't?
What if I killed somebody?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I mean and you're not thinking of that when you say
to yourself let me get in my car.
And I know that I was beingresponsible, but still, I still
got in my car and I can't evenimagine, because I know how
badly I felt, that I know Ididn't run her over.
I know I didn't physically runher over, but I knew that.
If, even if my trailer clippedher, if that's the case, that's,
I feel horrible.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You know what I?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
mean but that.
But that also could happen whenyou're stone sober, and she
wasn't, and it wound up gettingwish.
You know, my car insurance paidher doctor's bill and, I think,
gave her a settlement and Ithink it was proven that she may
have fallen down that hill andwas intoxicated and all that.
But, still, the charges are onme right Right.
So you feel horrible.
And then the aftermath of allthis not only is it, I remember
(23:52):
getting text messages frompeople that don't even know me
that well, are you all right?
And I'm like I didn't tellanybody.
I don't know about out by you,but it's called the patch.
So each individual town hastheir own patch of all like
what's going on with the police.
It gets put on the internet.
There's my frigging, you knowpicture with what.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's like a blot, like a blotter.
Yeah, I was like.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Oh my God, it's like you don't want everyone to know,
so there was a small town kindof a small town where you were
town, yeah, it's just so.
But the aftermath of it isdealing with you know, being
sued for this woman and then youhave to go to court and then it
costs a lot of money to get alawyer and a lot of money, and
I'm I'm so grateful that I hadit.
(24:34):
I had, I had the money to dealwith it, but still it was a lot
of money and, yeah, I had to geta breathalyzer in my car to
start the car, you have to blowin it.
And as you're driving, you haveto do it Whoever's in your car
is.
Now.
It was just so humiliating mykids driving them to sports.
It was just very humiliating.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
How long did you have that in your car?
For like a year.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I got to tell this part of the story because it's
great, so I don't know when itwas how many months later, but
it was quite a ways like maybenine months in almost done
months later, but it was quite aways like maybe nine months in
almost done.
And I went on a date through adating app.
I was going on a state and Iwasn't going to go because he
said he was like five seven orfive eight and I'm like five
eight and I can't be withsomeone like short and because
(25:17):
of my competing and my lifestyleand just how I am, I never
really went out much.
You know, it's like peoplegoing out there, going out
eating and drinking you know,and you know divorce.
I don't have the same friendsand just I don't know.
So my friends are like go on adating site and go on a dating
site, at least go meet people.
So that's what I was doing, noton the regular, but so go on
this date.
Guy was super, super nice.
(25:37):
We knew a lot of the samepeople and I can't remember if
that's when he told me, but Ithink he had one as well in his
life and had the breath of lifeand whatever.
And then he's like you want tojust go out for dinner by my
house.
And in my head I'm going Idon't really want to go because
I'm not interested.
But then I'm also going whatare you going to do?
You're going to go sit homeagain by yourself.
So I was like okay, so drivethere.
(26:00):
And part of you is also goinglike I don't want to lead this
guy on either.
You know you're like it's likea weird.
It was a weird thing, but Ithink he got the gist because I
was making fun of him a littlebit on the date.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So he probably likes that.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
if he's asking you to go meet him, so we drive down
there, I park like in front ofhis home and then we go out for
dinner and at dinner he had likeone or two drinks and he's like
you know what?
It's the same thing.
I wasn't competing, I hadliterally one drink.
I didn't even feel buzzed, Ijust had the drink.
So then we go back to his house.
In my mind I'm going.
(26:31):
I said to him if I have onedrink, I'm not going to drive.
See, he lived in a home withother roommates.
He's like you can sleep on thecouch.
I think there's a spare bedroom, whatever he said.
So I was like all right, I waslike in that effort mode, I'm so
sick of being home by myself.
My kids were always with theirdad.
I was like I'm just going to dothis.
So when we get there he goes.
Oh, can you just move your carup like a couple?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
of weeks.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
No, no, can you please move your car up a few
feet so my roommate can get hiscar in the driveway?
I'm like, yeah, like you'rethinking no, like I don't care,
get in, blow as soon as I blow.
I'm like, oh, no, fuck, fuck,fuck.
And I'm like I don't believethis.
And when you have that, youstill you have to report to a um
(27:13):
, like every month you knowprobation not probation
like similar, something likethat, something like that, and
you have to pee and she loved mebecause you know the difference
between somebody you knowthat's not not really doing this
on the regular right, I just goand pee whatever she loved me
because you know the differencebetween somebody.
You know that's not not reallydoing this on the regular.
I just go and pee whatever.
She loved me.
So I literally emailed her thesecond it happened, told her
exactly what happened.
I told the truth.
(27:34):
I said you know cause?
You're not allowed to drink atall.
It's so weird that you get aDWI, you're not even allowed to
drink period zero, like you'renot even have to have an alcohol
system, which is weird, becausewhy can't you drink if you're
not driving, but whatever,you're not allowed to have any.
I email her immediately like Iwent on a date.
She knew my whole story, youknow.
It's like, yeah, and I just waslike I don't believe this.
So of course she's like I'llcall the judge, I'm going to
(27:56):
tell her that you are, you'rereally a pillar of you know
doing the right thing andeverything, and you know.
So they gave me a second chance.
I had to go to court, pay moremoney for this incident.
That it's like so a movie,right, right.
So I go to court and now I haveto do classes and go to like
(28:17):
alcohol, like whatever you callit oh, not AA, but like through
the town you have to go seepeople that are serious drug,
drug and alcohol problems.
Yeah, I didn't have to start ityet and I went on another date,
let's say a week later, and wassitting and talking and I'm
very open.
Now I'm telling this guy thestory and in his head he goes
holy shit, this is the girl,this is the girl.
(28:38):
This is how small world it is.
He had gone on a date the weekprior with a girl that was
friends with the guy I was withthe week prior, so he must've
told her the story.
Now she's telling him the storyand they're both going like who
does that?
Who blows in a breathalyzerwhen?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
they know they're drinking.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
So here I'm going and in this guy who I happened to
have really liked, and he likedme, was like that's the girl,
that's the girl, Fast forward.
That's my husband.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I married him for three years.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Oh you're kidding Together six years and at the
date he's going in and he said Iwant to tell her so bad that I
know it was just the funniestthing, but it wasn't funny,
right, okay.
So now fast forward.
It was all meant to be becausemy husband lived here.
I lived here and the placewhere I had to go every once a
week it was very close to ourhomes.
It wasn't inconvenient and Iactually wound up liking it
(29:27):
because when I was younger I hadbinge eating disorder.
So like food to me was like adrug, and when these women were
talking about drug and alcohol Irelated to them in that respect
but not with drugs.
I don't have a drug or alcoholproblem, but then I started
taking over the class, I starteddoing self-help meditations and
I started teaching thempositivity and started doing all
(29:47):
these things that I said tomyself this is what I want to do
with my life.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I probably still would have done what I'm doing.
I think that's just what Iwould have done, but that really
was like wow, I want to do this, and I probably wouldn't have
known that until I was in thatsituation.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
So it subconsciously led you to where you're at right
now.
Really, when you think about it, you didn't do it purposely, I
mean it just kind of drove youin that direction and you met
this amazing man who knew yourstory and accepted you the way
the story was regardless, whichis pretty cool.
That doesn't ever happen ondating apps.
I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
No, there's a lot of people In fact, what it is it's
like, in fact, I think I'm goingto do a podcast with my husband
.
In fact, I said I want him tobe my first guest, because I
don't do guests at the momentJust starting to and I for years
never told anybody we met on adating app.
Because of that, Because it'sso like that's sleazy.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
But it's like I don.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, ten years ago I totally could see what you're
talking about, but I meannowadays it's no big deal.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
It was pretty prevalent in our age group, like
older people doing the datingapps because you know where are
you going to meet people, but Istill didn't want to tell
anybody.
So now everyone knows on yourpodcast and they'll soon know.
But I know I went all over theplace, but the moral of the
story is is number one somepeople that get DWIs certainly
don't plan on it, Obviously youhave.
I mean, when I met some of thesewomen in the classes, they were
(31:09):
on their third, they werejailed.
They just I don't understandthat.
Like for me I wouldn't eventake a sip ever again If I was
driving.
I just will not, because Idon't even want to get into an
accident by accident.
And then they're like did youdrink?
And you had even one drink.
I don't want to even beanywhere near it.
So it also turned me on to Uber.
(31:30):
I didn't even know about Uberback then, so I had an Uber
everywhere I rode my bicycle.
Because here's another thingthat listeners might not know,
at least in New York if I didnot blow in a breathalyzer, it's
an automatic license suspensionfor, I think, six months.
By blowing and being under, youknow, I was high enough to be
charged, you know, but lowenough to not be a felony,
whatever Right.
(31:51):
The fact that I blew was only30 days without a license, and
then I had my license back.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, here in Washington it's a year is my
understanding If you don't blowin the breathalyzer you can do
the field sobriety, but I mean,it's a whole thing.
My husband was, my ex-husbandwas a cop too.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I understand the process.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
But if you wait, you know well, I'm not going to tell
you how to get around it but itis basically the field sobriety
test that they have you do.
That is the most humiliatingpart is exactly what you're
talking about, where they werehaving you touch your nose, walk
the line, and that is somethingyou're required to do for them
to determine if you're under theinfluence or not, and I don't
(32:31):
think you even have to do that.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I don't even think you have to do that, but then
you're getting you say take mein, Just take me in.
The thing is, in my personalopinion, I think society has
gotten like when somethinghappens bad, they try and
rectify it almost too much to afault the other way, and I'm not
even going to get on othersubjects, but with drinking I
think it should be acase-by-case basis.
On that first offense,especially if it's lower, but it
(32:55):
is, it's jail time or whateverit may be.
Like you said, a year without alicense, and I think even a
friend of mine that I met inthat class, even though she had
three, and she hasn't had onesince.
She's not allowed to driveperiod.
So how is she supposed to havea job and how is she supposed to
be part of the society?
Like forever, forever, forever.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Oh, wow, wow so that I disagree with.
I do too.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Number one you want to make money, have
breathalyzers in their car.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
If anything, or maybe , or maybe only drive during
work hours or whatever you haveto do, since she's had three.
I mean, I understand thatthey're concerned, but I just
think that that's a freedom thatshould not be taken away.
When someone wants to try andbecome a better person, let's
say so you know, I just made thebest of it.
At the time I lived pretty closeto stores and I would ride my
bike and I just people weresaying, just drive, they won't
(33:40):
know.
I'm like I'm a risk taker.
I'm not like Debbie Dugard orby any chance.
You know I'm not approved, butI certainly was like I'm not
risking for 30 days I'll justchill out.
You know, I took an Uber to thegym and I was like Uber's great
.
You know, I think I don't knowhow long Uber has been around,
but I don't really remember itbeing something that I thought
about back then, now of it's soprevalent.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Like 2007, 2008.
Oh was it All right, well,that's when I remember being
introduced to it.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, yeah, I'm going wow this is a trip.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I remember thinking, wow, this is kind of like a cool
thing, but I'd never done itbefore either.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, and I remember like after getting it, I
remember researching that thewoman who created Mothers
Against Drunk Drivers later ondrank at a baby shower and got
arrested on a DWI.
Wow, so it just goes to show youthat you know sometimes you
might not make the rightdecision.
But from seeing my own childrenI think at this generation,
like they just don't.
(34:35):
They don't seem to.
They seem to all Uber, you know, especially the parent a lot of
times the parents are payingfor their Uber Like they just
seem to be a little bit more,like absolutely not.
And I remember growing up whenwe were younger you didn't even
get in that much trouble if youjust got caught.
God forbid if you killedsomebody.
Accident.
They would pour everything outand say yeah, walk home or just
take your keys right, Walk home,take your keys, whatever, but
(34:57):
it's it's changed.
It's changed and it should.
It shouldn't be allowed.
It shouldn't be okay.
But they have to do somethingto where the people that are
repeatedly doing it they'resuspended licenses.
They don't even have a license,so like they should have.
I don't know how they can do it, but no-transcript.
(35:34):
It should be.
Like I said, my jail thing wasby oh, I didn't even say that
part my name was put into thesystem wrong, so I got sent out
to that jail and that wholeentire thing by accident, Like I
was not supposed to be sentthere.
But I, like I said I'm glad Iwas because number one I make a
joke, bucket list.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Check.
You can check that one off.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
So how was?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
how was your family, elise?
How did they like your son andyour family?
Were they supportive or how didthey respond?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, I mean my younger son, who's more mature
than I am, even to this day.
I mean they were all just likecouldn't believe that you did it
and they just, you know, theyknew it was a mistake and they
just kind of like sometimes madefun of me, had to blow on that
thing.
I was so like on point that onetime we went out for dinner,
just me and my younger son and Ihad a mint and some mints will
blow off and I made him, he willblow off and I made him.
(36:22):
He was able to drive.
I was like, no, I can't do it,you do it.
But I think they weresupportive and just like my
older son was still at collegeso when he was home and I would
just blow in it, his friendswould be in the car.
It was just, I was like amaster at it, like some people
have to pull over and then blow,like I, you're allowed to do it
while you're driving and Iwould just do it, you have to
hum.
I mean, my husband at the timehe's now retired was a police
(36:44):
officer so I'd go to visit himat work and he'd be talking and
then I'd have to.
You know, it's like it was justa very humiliating time and
expensive.
So people don't realize howexpensive it could be.
You know it was a minimum 10grand, definitely a little bit
more than 10 grand.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Not even the worst case.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
You know I wasn't like, I wasn't the pillar, so
pay $50 for the Uber, people,right?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yep, I mean, it's not even, because even that one
drink, if you just had it, andyou get into an accident, even
if someone hits you, just like,especially.
Let's talk about weed now,because weed is pretty, you know
, pretty legal everywhere, evenif you didn't do anything wrong
and you're under the influence,you're screwed.
Yep, and you're under theinfluence, you're screwed, so
why take that chance?
But when you're younger, youalways think it's not going to
(37:26):
happen to you.
But why not be proactive?
It's so easy, or get a ridefrom a friend or a family, but a
lot of people don't plan ongetting plastered.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
They maybe have one.
Oh, I'll just have one more.
Or just leave your car whereverit is and get it the next day.
It seems like such no-braeradvice, right?
I was going to ask you know, ifyou could give advice to the
younger version of yourself oryounger people you know that are
in similar situations.
What would it be?
And it's a lot of the stuffwe're talking about now which
seems like you know I'm I'mguilty.
I'll put it out there I was youknow, with friends yesterday and
(38:01):
and had a couple of drinks andand I was there all evening so
it wasn't right away.
I get what you were saying toodrink the water.
Let time go by before we do it.
But yeah, I need to think aboutsome of this advice for myself.
I'm not going to say we all doit because you don't, but a lot
of us do that and I love that.
You're able to look back nowand see the journey that it took
(38:25):
you on Glass half full asyou're going Not a lot of people
are able to do that and thenthe outcome of this career path
that you've taken on to whereyou can help other women, other
people go through and put thesethings into practice in their
own lives.
I think it's tremendous.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah, I've always been that half, half full person
, and how else can you be?
I think my biggest concern thewhole deal was when I got into
that little van that takes youto the court because I get car
sick and there was no windowsand I'm like please just let me
get car sick.
Like that was my biggest.
I was just like I can takeanything else.
Jail throw jail at me, throwgangsters at me, just please
(39:06):
don't let me be nauseous.
But yeah, you don't think aboutit.
And up until that point,definitely times in my life
where you're going out fordinner and you might even be a
little what they say, buzzdriving, like you're not really
messed up, and I think when youknow that you can drive and
we've all done it and I don'tcare.
When, what happened to me.
I remember thinking like myhusband's probably going to use
(39:26):
this as great Like look at momdid or like my brother and, like
all these people, I felt likethey were judging me.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
And.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I remember saying to them I go, this could have been
you probably this weekend.
My kids were little and you'redoing no drive and pick it up
Like when they were going toparties or whatever.
I always did the early becauseI used to get up so early for
the gym.
So I do the drop off and theseother parents would pick up my
kid and I started to complainthey were out to dinner drinking
probably, and now they'repicking up my kid, so I was
always kind of against it and ithappened to me too, but I think
(39:55):
our bodies build up a toleranceto alcohol where you might be
able to have two glasses of wineand not really feel it,
especially if you're eating.
But I won't even do that.
I just look at it like why it'snot that I'm in the position,
with the experience, that it'snot worth it to me.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah, this is really inspirational for me because
it's not like I mean I have adrink in hand on this podcast
plenty of times and I'm notgoing anywhere after, but I'm
just sitting here thinking Ineed to take the things that
you're sharing I personally amgiving myself a little bit of a
challenge right now and toreally think about this, just
like I was saying, because I'mguilty and I need to not be.
(40:30):
Well, we do.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
We have our beverages a lot at home.
You know, like when we'rehanging because we live in this,
we live in the same structure,you know so it's.
But we don't, we're not goinganywhere.
But to your point, I mean, I'mnot a very tall person, I'm not
a very big person and I'll havea couple glasses of wine, I
don't feel buzzed, but I mean,and I have driven no problem
home.
But it's making me really thinkabout things.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
But what I'm going to say is that you don't think you
are but you are Right.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Oh, I just am taking it one or two and I'm not far
from home.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
take the Uber, take the Uber, or have somebody drive
that hasn't been drinking rightit comes down to, I think, with
society, a lot of talk aboutthe NLP, neuro-linguistic
programming.
A lot of people just are onautopilot.
So we're on autopilot, I've didit too.
You don't even say anything,you just go to dinner, you have
your wine, you get your car, yougo home and, like I was just
(41:28):
saying to Julie, it's like youmight not think your buzz be are
a little bit, you might be alittle bit.
So I would do it because I justswore to myself I hope never.
Plus, when you have one, evenif it's 15 years prior, you're
screwed.
If you have another, not that Idon't have another, but I don't
even want them to think I hadit.
I don't even want them to thinkI had a drink.
But for anyone else, yes, Isthere a limit?
You're allowed to drink anddrive.
(41:49):
Technically you're allowed tobe whatever it may be, whatever
the limit is.
But how do you know what thatis?
How do you?
know, and I think also for uswomen, our age group of the moms
.
Everyone thinks having wineevery night.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I get to the point like why are you having wine
every night?
Why is that your habit?
There's that too.
That's a whole other episode.
Yeah, that's a whole otherepisode Exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
So then it comes down to all that and, like you said,
if it's not affecting your lifebadly and you're just staying
home and you're having wineevery night, who really cares?
But then if you take that stepback and talk to someone like me
, you might be like why are youhaving it every night?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Are you trying to?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
escape.
What are you trying to do?
I mean, everybody likesdrinking wine.
I love it and I like that buzz.
Because you don't get?
I don't know, you don't get youknow loosey-goosey and whatever
.
Yeah, and I think for mepersonally, if it wasn't had
when I was menopause frustrated,mind you, I was drinking every
(42:47):
night too, because I could,because I'm not dieting and
having dessert, but I was reallyprobably drinking away some
issues that I want to.
It makes you feel good.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
I mean there's no it's just like settling into any
habit people settle into.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
It's fine and everything's fine until it's not
.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Right.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
But it definitely is something where I think, like I
said, the generation, theseyounger kids.
I think they really got it.
It seems like they all takeUbers and I don't think anyone
drives.
Better than we did for sure,right, well, they didn't have
that resource, they didn't havecell phones.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
This is one of the things that Michelle and I have
talked quite a bit about,because the generation that we
all three are in is thattransitional one between old
school and new school.
We didn't talk about DUIs, wedidn't talk about you even
blowing in anything.
I mean, I remember rollingaround in the back of some car
that one of my buddies wastaking me home and I'm listening
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to ACDC and going around thecorner with no seatbelt.
You know you're hoping you getthere, I think my ex-husband.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
I was with him since I was 15, 16.
And I mean I'm not going to sithere and lie.
I mean we drank all night atclubs and then drove home.
I was the one that was known andI didn't even drink beer.
I drank literally.
Myers-roman Diet Coke was mygo-to drink when I was in my
early 20s and I could drive.
I was never falling on thefloor, mind you, it's not like
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you're falling.
I think one time I actually was, and I'm not proud of any of
this, but I was able to drivebetter than any of my friends
sober.
So I was always the designateddriver, even though we were all
out drinking.
And as an adult, you think backand say thank God.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Thank God, I know I'm lucky to be alive.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Oh, me too.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
We used to drive to Idaho to the state line from
Spokane, because the drinkingage was 19 and it was 21 in
Washington.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, we would go out there and party and then drive
back to Washington.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
We'd go up to Canada, go up to Vancouver because the
drinking age was 19 up thereyeah.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
That's what I'm saying.
It's not even like you werelike oh, I really should get a
drive like you.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Just did it.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
There was no thought process at all, and then the
same thing with us now as adultswith you know a lot of our age
group.
You know you go out for dinnerwith your husbands or your
girlfriends.
You're going out for brunch andyou're having champagne or
mimosas, and you had seven,eight, nine, ten mimosas over,
but no one's thinking yeaheither you're not to have any,
or maybe one, or just get a ride, because, like you said, uber
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what's?
Speaker 2 (45:07):
an Uber 50 bucks compared to 10,000.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Mimosas are like.
I love mimosas.
I like them with a little bitmore orange juice.
But I was just in Mexico.
As an example, we got the billfor the place we were staying at
and all the drinks.
There was a few of us there.
We had 22 mimosas between usgirls.
We weren't driving, of course,we were on vacation, but 22
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mimosas.
I was like holy shit, theydidn't.
I don't think they had thatmuch alcohol in them because I
didn't feel like I was no theydon't.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
It doesn't, yeah, falling down or anything.
I mean, I've caught buzz off ofmimosas because you just have
so many.
Yeah, you know what I mean it'sa lot of sugar.
You're in the sun, yeah, justlike I love, I rather day drink
at Mexico and drink during theday and kind of like lay in the
sun and then take a shower andgo out for dinner and be done.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Right Yep.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Right At least an hour.
Yeah, maybe a little dancing,you know.
I love dancing, that's my thingWith anything in life.
We all have to take that stepback and have that like inner
dialogue, and it's not justabout this, but this is the
topic that we're speaking aboutand the irony of it is I did
know to have do all that in asense on the other side, before
we drove the jet ski back, youknow, get the designated driver.
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Literally, I stood there andsaid I can't drive my jet ski
and he's like well, I'm going tocall my wife and she was
waiting for us on the other side, which she witnessed everything
, because she was alreadywaiting for us.
I did try to do the right thingand it kind of backfired, but
what's the worst that can happenif you take an Uber?
But the thing is I want to putout to the listeners too no
matter what age you are whenyou're drinking and you already
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started you don't have that mind.
You're usually like I can drive, I can drive, no problem.
You don't have that.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Plan.
You have to have a plan.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Maybe you have to have a plan because you always
think you're not as bad as youare and you're going to think
you can drive.
And even when my kids wereyoung they'd be like, oh,
Johnny's driving, he's notdrinking.
So I'm the DD tonight.
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I'm the DD Meanwhile, my myyounger son, for everyone that
he was friends with my older sontoo.
He was always the DD, causehe's, he should have been a
police officer himself.
He's very, very like straight.
So, he would, he would do it.
But, like I said, I think thegeneration now is, they've been
taught which we weren't taughtas much.
They've been taught like thisis what you do, so that's good,
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that's a good thing.
But our society is always downon the teenagers and the drink
and the driving, and you can'tdrink until you're 21 and blah,
blah, blah.
But the stats show.
I don't want to make a quotebecause I don't know the exact
stats.
The stats for most people thatget DWIs are like in their
forties.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
It's not these young kids, it's the older people.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
So it's, it's you know, our age to have to, like,
cut it back a little bit or,like you said, plan ahead.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Well, thank you so much.
We are thrilled to have thisstory with us, and hear it from
someone who is at the same agereally that we are, and it's
good to hear how you managed itand how you handled it, and that
we are and it's good to hearhow you managed it and how you
handled it, and really it's beenkind of a blessing in disguise
in a lot of ways for you,Absolutely Yep, and I just want
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to put out there and thank ourlisteners for checking us out on
YouTube and subscribing.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Keep doing it, Share with your friends.
We're out on all the socialsFacebook, Instagram, TikTok you
will find us there.
So thank you for downloading,Continue to share.
If you like what you see,follow and we just thank you so
much for listening.
Thank you, Elise, for beinghere today.
And not an easy like you weresaying close to the vest not an
easy story to share.
You decided to do it with usand we are very thankful and
(48:39):
honored that you decided to dothat, so it's a great story.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
I think it'll help a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
I hope so All right.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Until next time, I'm glad to meet you, glad to meet
you guys, period.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Share some of that sunshine with us.
I know yeah, bring it this wayAll right.
Everybody.
Have a wonderful day.
Thanks for joining us and wewill see you next week.
Bye.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah.
I'm Michelle the blonde hey there and I'm Jules
the brunette.
Join us as we dive into all ofthe juicy topics like dating,
women's health, sex politics,relationships and everything in
between.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
We each have our own unique perspective and don't
always see eye to eye, but thatjust makes our conversations
that much more interesting.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
That's right.
So if you're looking for apodcast that's both entertaining
and honest, I think we've gotyou covered.
See eye to eye.
But that just makes ourconversations that much more
interesting.
That's right.
So if you're looking for apodcast that's both entertaining
and honest, I think we've gotyou covered Two authentic women,
both with real talk.
Let's go.
Welcome everyone.
We are so thrilled to have aguest here today with us, elise
Morgan.
Hello, elise, hello, thank youso much for having me.
(00:47):
Yes, michelle is going to do anintro for you, just to make
sure we get it all exactly right.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So excited to have you here.
And yes, she has a wealth ofknowledge and experience all the
kinds.
So I don't want to miss a beatwhen I do this introduction here
for her, because she is aformer personal trainer, fitness
model and IFBB professionalathlete, turned life coach,
author, speaker and podcast hostwith a bold and sassy, yet
(01:15):
compassionate, approach topersonal empowerment.
I love that.
With a master's degree from theSchool of Hard Knocks and
certifications in life coaching,nlp and sacred ceremonies,
elise is dedicated to helpingindividuals break free from
limiting beliefs and unlocktheir true potential Through
mindset coaching, personalspiritual growth and
(01:36):
transformation.
Elise leads you on a journey toawaken your soul, embrace your
authentic self and navigatelife's challenges with
confidence.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Who doesn't want?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
that right.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I do Sign me up, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So first before we move on, I just want to ask a
couple of things, because someof our listeners might not know
what IFBB stands for.
So first, let's just a briefexplanation of that.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Okay, it stands for the International Federation of
Bodybuilding.
It's the mother of all whatwould you call that Groups for
all the fitness stuff, that'sthe major league one.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Very cool.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And then NLP.
Nlp is Neuro LinguisticProgramming, and what that
really is in layman's term is wehave pathways in our brain and
it helps us to how we think, andNLP helps us to change our
neuro pathways so that we have amore positive outlook.
(02:39):
Let's say so.
It's like having a pattern ofthinking is a pathway.
That's like a layman's term.
Sure I love that we are allabout positive.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So today we have Elise has agreed to speak with
us on kind of an interestingtopic.
Well, I reached out to findsomeone who had had a DUI
experience from theirperspective not being the person
who was I would say, a victim,I guess you could say of DUI,
and also being a woman.
This is something that wethought would be really
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important to bring to ouraudience, because we've all had
those experiences where we havebeen in circumstances where
we've had a drink or had two orwhatever, and had to make
decisions about what we weredoing.
So we would love to hear yourstory and share it with others
and what you learned from that,because we're hoping that that
will be something we can take toour listeners, that they will
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learn something from.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
So welcome and thank you.
Thank you, I'm glad to be heretoo to give all the different
perspectives and then to go backto what I do, how to remain
positive throughout thisexperience.
And, you know, kudos to youguys, because the first time I'm
telling my story in public.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I love it, thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, free from, for my listeners, you know, they'll.
You know this is.
It was just something that Ikept close to the vest for
various reasons and I'm ready to, you know, be able to speak
about it.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So I don't appreciate that.
We feel very honored that youare, because it's a big deal,
you know, it's life experienceand we all go through stuff.
So it's good that you're readyand we are really, really
willing to hear.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So I have a close friend to your point keeping it
close to the vest.
I was just telling heryesterday that you were going to
be on today and share yourstory and she's been through the
same thing.
She's a mom and all of thestuff, and it's never anything
that you expect to happen.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
No, you don't expect it, especially in my, and I'll
tell the story.
You guys, let me know if youwant to do it more as a question
and answer, if you want me tojust roll with it, because in
hindsight there's a lot of humorto my story and of course, the
subject matter is not humorouswhatsoever.
But what happened to me in theend of the day?
I make humor out of everything.
So for me, first and foremost,I want to make sure the
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listeners know and everyone thatknows me knows, that I'm not an
advocate that you should drinkand drive.
I think that's something youshould not be doing and in fact
I volunteered for MothersAgainst Drunk Drivers.
I mean, I was one of thosepeople that were, for the most
part, pretty, you know, madesure that you didn't do that,
you know even you know one drink, you know.
You know when you're older, onedrink, you know, whatever.
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But I was pretty big on notdrinking and driving, so it's
not like you're.
I want the listeners to hearthat we hear about DWI.
It's not somebody that has like15 suspended licenses and they
have all these problems whichthat could be, but it could be
just your everyday mom who madea mistake.
And so I'll try and condense mystory, because I tend to tell
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my stories really long and funny.
But so, bottom line, I wasdriving my, riding a jet ski
that day and friends of minewere playing volleyball
somewhere on the beach and Iwent to go watch them and I
usually did not drink, evensocially, because I was
competing.
I just didn't.
You know, you didn't.
You know that was something Ialways like to drink.
(06:01):
You know, like have a glass ofwine with dinner and stuff like
that, but you're reallyrefrained, you're not drinking
if you're competing.
Yeah, and that particular day,I think I was starting a
competition diet or whatever itwas the next day, and the
friends were like, come to thebar, it's our friend's birthday.
And I was like I knew I wasgoing to be there for a long
time and I wound't.
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I was dieting all the time andyou think like, oh, that won't
be that strong, so, whatever itwas, I had that and maybe, like,
I think, a shot and that was it, and I and I've drank in my
lifetime and, as I'm sittingthere, I got.
Can we curse on here, cause?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I'm from New York.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I got, I got, I got fucked up, like I was really
fucked up.
And I remember texting friendsand saying like I'm really
messed up and I, we and at thatpoint my friends and I made a
plan to have a designated driver.
So this is the fun.
This is one of the beginningpart of the funny story.
That's not really funny.
So here I am, getting you know,making arrangements for a
designated driver to pick us upon the other side Cause you had
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to get your jet skis over there.
And of course, when you'rebuzzed or pretty messed up,
you're not making the bestdecisions.
So one of the people that I waswith I was the passenger now on
my jet ski to get to the otherside, Because now I don't want
to drive my jet ski, I'm notfeeling that I should, right, so
you get driven to the otherside and when we got there, just
automatic pilot I got off thejet ski, went and got my car to
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pull into the boat ramp to getmy jet ski Because in my mind
I'm not driving.
In my mind I'm like I'm justgetting my jet ski out of the
water so I can park and getpicked up by my designated
driver.
Got it?
So that's the thought process.
So when I got into the boatramp I was having a problem
backing up to go get the jet ski.
I don't know if anyone'slistening that ever drove a boat
trailer.
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It's the opposite of what youthink.
I did not think.
To put my ass up.
So I'm like going back and forthvery slow because it's a boat
ramp, to try and get my jet skiout.
Now, with that, there's a barrestaurant very close to where
the boat ramp is, and as I'mlike going back and forth with
this thing and I'm getting sopissed like I couldn't do it the
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right way, I remember sittingthere, you know, just frustrated
, and all of a sudden I hear acommotion by the side of my car
and I'm like what's going on?
So I get out of my car and youhave to remember, even though I
was, I'm not falling on thefloor, I'm not, you know, like
Right, right You're buzzed, yeah, you buzz.
I get out and I see this ladylaying on the side of like
there's a hill that comes downto where the boat ramp is and
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she's laying there.
So I think she fell becausethere's a lot of people that are
drunk walking around, whatever.
So I'm like oh my God, oh myGod, are you okay?
And it was like three womeneven older than me and then
started screaming at me.
You fucking bitch Like juststarted screaming.
And I was like, and I have noidea.
I'm like oh my God, what'sgoing on?
Then the police, the police,are always there in that parking
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lot.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Right, because it's a bar restaurant.
Police come and I'm like, ohshit, I ran and get my license.
I'm in a frigging you know tanktop and shorts, bathing suit,
and I just know that now I'm alittle nervous because I did
drink.
You know what I mean.
Next thing, I know I'm in the-.
Oh, the field sobriety test thefield sobriety.
I couldn't think of the words.
(09:09):
Next thing, I know I'm in themiddle of doing that and I
remember like the guy I was withwas like something like don't
blow.
I've never been arrested.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Have you ever heard a guy say that oh sorry, oh yeah,
well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That's part of the fun of this whole thing.
We're going to get to the funnypart, but that's one of them
Like don't glow and you're likeI had no idea what was going on.
And my ex-husband was a policeofficer and did fields of body
tests and I remember him alittle bit saying like don't you
know whatever, so I'm doing afields of body test.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Obviously failed it.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
And then you get the handcuffs put on you and you're
so ashamed Like I remember beinglike, oh my God, and I remember
them being so tight.
You know like please, can youmake these looser on the police
officer?
Like no, you know whatever.
And then you go to the.
I've never been in thatsituation.
You're like you're handcuffedto a table.
I'm freezing because you're wet.
Really, I was just on a jet ski, so horrible.
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So I remember them saying youget a phone call.
So in my head I was like well,who has my car?
Because, knowing me, I probablywould have called my son.
He was probably only 16, but soresponsible but I wanted to
know where the car was.
So the police officer put me onthe phone with a girl that I
didn't even know because he hadher number and she's like I'm
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friends with Joe, one of thefriends I was with that was
arranging for the designateddriver.
She's like I'm friends with him, we have your car, we have his
house, it's parked.
I'm like great.
So I go to say okay, I'm goingto call my son.
And the police was like nope,that was your first phone call.
I'm like, but I didn't tell youto call that person, I just
asked you where my car was.
So that was like that.
And I remember crying.
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I was so crying because he'slike they have to ask you three
times if you'll blow in thatbreathalyzer.
I remember like beingbrainwashed Don't do it, don't
do it.
And then I'm asking him.
I'm crying, I'm like whatshould I do?
And he's like I can't tell youwhat to do and I finally just
blow.
I blow into the breathalyzerand he was just, it was just
like.
He was just so mean to me but Iwound up doing that.
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I got driven to a cell andyou're there overnight and it
was just.
You know, you're not in thatsituation.
You're like you said, you'relike just mom, you know.
I'm not a prude, but I also wasnever arrested before, and then
the other cells.
You hear the women.
They're all talking to eachother.
That's like the weekend.
That's how they spend theirweekends.
Every weekend you could telllike oh, I never got arrested in
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this precinct before.
Like who am I with?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Did you have your own space?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yes At that point I did.
And then you wake up and theyyou know, I don't know what's
going on they wake up, they takeyou in a chain gang and I'll
never forget no way.
There was like a plexiglasswindow and I remember seeing my
reflection in this window andI'm like I just can't believe
this.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Do they put you at least in, like an orange
jumpsuit or something, or areyou still?
Wearing your bikini.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Thank God I usually wear bikinis and thank God that
day typical me, I felt fat,which I guarantee you I was not.
I would kill to look like thatnow.
I wore a tank top and shorts.
So thankfully, because then Iwould have been in a bikini.
You know, I just remember beinghumiliated.
But just to let the listenersknow, because of my background
at that point, I've been reallyinto personal development,
personal growth.
I was just very calm and I justknew that everything, no matter
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what everything's going to beokay.
You know, this is just thesituation I'm in and speaking
about my outfit, the back of myshorts said heartbreaker on them
.
So that was that was fun.
That was fun going to jail withheartbreaker on my ass.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You know what I mean so.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
But so, to condense it, you know you're now, you're,
I guess, in a holding cell tobe taken before a judge and I
guess, because what I waswearing, I was put separate so
that you're in this big cell butI was in like a separate one
again, thankfully.
And then I guess an advocatefor the court comes to talk to
everyone and everyone's gettinglike this young hip, you know
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lawyer, and I get this guy.
I swear to God, he was probably85 years old and he's asking me
, you know, for two people to, Iguess, come and get you
whatever it was.
And I gave him and you have toremember, do you know anyone's
phone number?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It's very hard.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And then do the people that you know the phone
number.
They're the ones that are goingto come bail you out of jail.
I don't know.
I have to know the phone numberto call.
Call this one last was myex-husband.
And so then everyone, it getsbetter.
So then everyone's gettingtheir lawyer coming back and
they're getting their namecalled and they're getting taken
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out.
And here I am waiting andwaiting, and waiting, and here
comes my old man and I'm likewhat's going on?
He's like, well, I didn't getanyone.
I left messages.
I'm like, well, what does thatmean?
You left messages.
I'm sitting here waiting to getout.
Next thing I know I get called.
I'm like, oh, thank God,somebody's bailing me out,
somebody's bailing me out orwhatever you have to do, pay
money.
So then they take me and all ofa sudden I'm being taken out to
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the prison bus.
I'm like, holy shit, I rememberthem putting me on this prison
bus with the other prisoners ina separate thing there too, and
I get taken out to the countyjail.
And now I'm in jail and I'mgetting processed and I kept
asking what's going on.
I don't understand.
I'm on the prison bus and we'redriving to jail and I'm like I
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really didn't have anything.
I have no idea what's going on,but, like I said, calm, always
saying like this is no matterwhat, I'm going to be okay and
like just very positive.
If you will, you get to thejail.
And I've never been there.
I mean it's you don't want togo there, you do not want to go
and this is just jail.
Jail is I forgot?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
there's jail and prison.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Like county jail, at least in New York.
If it's under a year, you go tothis place, and it's over a
year, you go to a prison.
So you go there, you getprocessed I'm talking animals in
there.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's animals, so it's all women in here.
Is this a women's?
So this is a co-ed, just likethe county jail.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Well, this is a co-ed holding middle, the middle
lobby, if you will.
And there, like all these guysin one cell and I'm wearing
heartbreaker shorts, mind you.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So like it is just.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I was, I didn't know where to put myself and they,
they were trying to like, put meby, like a steel beam or
whatever, be getting processedand I don't know what's going on
.
Then they take me to a placewhere it is all women and the
two sheriffs that were there,the women, they were very heavy
set and whatever, and they just-.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
They didn't like you, they didn't like me.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
They didn't like you.
Nope, they showed it andeverybody said I always look
younger than I am.
And back then I probably did.
This is almost like 10 yearsago.
They were pointing at my ageand pointing and then they would
just they didn't like me, they.
I never was so happy to put ona prison suit because I was so
cold well, your clothes had beenwet and everything.
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I could not wait they had.
I didn't care, I put that stuffon, I was so happy.
And then they're like you canmake a phone call.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So I think I called my ex, I called my ex-husband at
that point you're just like Idon't care, I'm calling the ex
yeah, or maybe they told me thathe got the phone call
previously, so I was so confusedand I remember calling him.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
And the joke is he's like oh, I never got a call from
a prisoner before, because if aprisoner makes a call, the
recording is prisoner number4560.
Oh my God.
So I'm like, can you help me?
Whatever he said, and Iremember crying.
Whatever he said, and Iremember crying and I think he
said he asked my brother.
He couldn't do it.
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He was upstate New York, hejust couldn't do it.
So he, like, was trying toarrange somebody to come and get
me.
And what the clincher was thatI was really mad at him for is
that the night before he foundout what happened and that I had
been taken to jail.
And I was like why didn't youdo anything?
Like he could have, like youknow, been there in the morning,
whatever.
And he's like I didn't thinkyou wanted me to know.
Well, all right, maybe that'strue, I have no idea, I'm not
going to bash him right now.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So did your family know where you were overnight?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Nobody.
So let's go back to that.
I'm glad you had that questionbecause my son, who also has a
boating license and also he was16 at the time you know, you
know to tell people where youare.
It's part of the voting thing.
So my son is looking all overfor me and that's how my
ex-husband found out, becausethey go to the boat ramp, mom's
not home.
What's going on?
(17:12):
You know?
My son thought I'm dead, yeah Iguess my ex-husband was like.
he was a police officer himselfso he's like acquiring, I guess,
hospitals and I found that Igot locked up and sure piece of
him like that.
But I'm not sure.
But at that point I don't knowanything.
I don't know what anybody knowsand what anyone doesn't know.
I'm literally in jail and Iremember no offense to these
people but you're with the drugof society.
(17:34):
I didn't see too many peoplethat didn't look like they were
there a lot of the time.
I knew I was going to get outof it but I was getting
processed.
Then I was shown where I wasgoing to sleep and I couldn't
understand.
Because I know the law, I knowthat you're going to get out.
It's not like you go to jailfor this.
You get out on bail and you haveto show up in court in a couple
of months, whatever it may be,and I'm like, going up to each
like officer, at each thing Ihad to go to First you had to go
(18:09):
to the infirmary and then youhad to go to get shot.
I'm like what is going on?
And I'm like excuse me, sir, Idon't think I'm supposed to be
here.
And he's like and he did saythere was something in my next
time I named the system thatthey weren't sure what was going
on.
But obviously they have to keepprocessing.
She's just still gettingprocessed.
It was horrible because you'renot really sure what's going on.
Let's fast forward.
They probably got a call thatI'm getting picked up, whatever
it may be.
I don't know who's coming toget me, I don't know anything.
And when I was going to getreleased, they have me with this
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other girl who's all tatted upand she's pregnant.
And I'm saying to the guy who'spicking me up and he's like I
don't know, they're not verynice.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I don't blame them.
They're around, they're just in.
Their work is horrible.
They're not here to like, makeyou feel better.
Like, oh, let me check to seewho's picking you up.
They just so.
Then she's like you can comewith me and I'm like I know what
you want You're like.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
oh, hail to the.
No, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I just remember you know getting your phone.
I don't know why I had my phonebecause it was wet.
So they gave me the phone and Ithought it was just not charged
and I asked him can I charge myphone for like a minute so I
can call somebody?
They're like nope, not evenallowed to stay in that lobby
area.
You have to leave, like leavethe premises.
So I'm leaving the premises.
You know, I was back in my wetclothes.
It just, it was just horrible,and I remember walking out and
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seeing my ex-husband, his bestfriend, who I used to be also be
friends with.
It could have been my ex-husbandI probably would have been like
on him hysterical crying,holding on to him, and he was
just like oh, you smell like askell Cause he was a police
officer.
He's like oh, I'm like.
I was in jail.
It was so humiliating becauseyou know you didn't like.
I take full responsibility thatyou shouldn't drink at all.
(19:47):
But in my lifetime I've had oneor two waited hours, drank.
The water didn't feel buzzed atall before you got into a
vehicle.
As an adult.
As a kid, you made stupidmistakes.
Sure, I didn't know what thehell was going on.
As I was sitting in the cell, Iwas like did anyone spike my
drink on?
I didn't know, you know, as Iwas sitting in the cell, I was
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like did anyone spike my drink?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
You know you start to think all these things because
I literally was like I waspretty messed up for the amount
of alcohol.
It's because you were preparingfor your competition.
So you probably didn't haveanything you know.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
a huge substance in your system, even yeah it was
that too, but just for thelisteners, it's a mistake of.
You know, not everyone's a badperson because they had a DWI.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Here's what happened as well, and I want to bring
this to everyone's attention,because it could have been much
worse, so that woman that fellshe claimed that I literally,
like ran her over front of mycar, which, physics wise, it's
impossible because she wasbehind my car.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
You know what I mean.
So it's like, just just in thatsense, and she's claiming this,
I didn't know about any of this, you know, until I got to the
um, the first precinct, and he'slike she's saying you did so.
I'm like I, I would never do.
I did not run anyone over withmy car.
You know, I would, I would knowwhat.
Like I said it wasn't like Iwas completely out of it, I
would know if I hit it, I, I wascrying, I was like I would know
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, if I hit it, was she up on thehill you said.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
She'd fallen on a hill.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Well, there's a hill there and right where she landed
.
So that's what I thoughthappened right.
So I was like I did not hit ahuman being.
I would be devastated.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, and everybody else was standing around there,
they would have noticed too.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
So I was crying.
He's this that now you injuredsomebody, so I find out after
that because there was an injury.
That's why you have to get onbail.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You have to have somebody bail you out, as
opposed to just being released,so you didn't even know you'd
been charged with hittingsomebody at that point.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
No, I didn't know, maybe they said it at court, but
I do remember them saying thatyou can get bailed out, and I
had two people come and theywere told that I wasn't there.
So that's the irony of all this.
It was just all things led tome going out to that jail.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Confusion yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And I'm going to continue the story because it
brought me to here.
You know, this is what peoplehave to do too.
When you're going through stuff, it's always for you.
There's always a lesson,there's always something, and
even if you're in the shittiest,shittiest and you can't bring
yourself to look at it that way,you can try, because something
good is going to come of it, orat least you learn something or
whatever.
Absolutely.
When I finally got home, I sawmy son.
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I'm like it was just horrible.
You know what I mean.
And now you have this wholething to deal with.
I just got charged with DWI andfor me, everyone that knew me,
including my son, they're likeyou, you're like an advocate, so
it's just funny in that respect.
So she claimed that.
And then, once I got the policereport, I remember going down
to the precinct and saying thisisn't true.
(22:38):
Did you ask any other witnesses?
They're like no, I'm like.
Why didn't you ask me?
You didn't even ask me becauseI would have said if one I
didn't want, I didn't do it too,if, if, if she got hit by
anything by me, it might've beenthe trailer as I was going back
and forth.
You know, part mostly her fault, cause you shouldn't be there.
That's the only thing I couldthink of, and I felt horrible
(22:59):
that if I had anything to do,she hurt her foot.
So I'm not putting down that Imight've hurt somebody, but it
was her foot, it wasn't anythingcatastrophic.
And the reason why I wanted tosay this is because what if it
wasn't?
What if I killed somebody?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I mean and you're not thinking of that when you say
to yourself let me get in my car.
And I know that I was beingresponsible, but still, I still
got in my car and I can't evenimagine, because I know how
badly I felt, that I know Ididn't run her over.
I know I didn't physically runher over, but I knew that.
If, even if my trailer clippedher, if that's the case, that's,
I feel horrible.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You know what I?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
mean but that.
But that also could happen whenyou're stone sober, and she
wasn't, and it wound up gettingwish.
You know, my car insurance paidher doctor's bill and, I think,
gave her a settlement and Ithink it was proven that she may
have fallen down that hill andwas intoxicated and all that.
But, still, the charges are onme right Right.
So you feel horrible.
And then the aftermath of allthis not only is it, I remember
(23:52):
getting text messages frompeople that don't even know me
that well, are you all right?
And I'm like I didn't tellanybody.
I don't know about out by you,but it's called the patch.
So each individual town hastheir own patch of all like
what's going on with the police.
It gets put on the internet.
There's my frigging, you knowpicture with what.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's like a blot, like a blotter.
Yeah, I was like.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Oh my God, it's like you don't want everyone to know,
so there was a small town kindof a small town where you were
town, yeah, it's just so.
But the aftermath of it isdealing with you know, being
sued for this woman and then youhave to go to court and then it
costs a lot of money to get alawyer and a lot of money, and
I'm I'm so grateful that I hadit.
(24:34):
I had, I had the money to dealwith it, but still it was a lot
of money and, yeah, I had to geta breathalyzer in my car to
start the car, you have to blowin it.
And as you're driving, you haveto do it Whoever's in your car
is.
Now.
It was just so humiliating mykids driving them to sports.
It was just very humiliating.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
How long did you have that in your car?
For like a year.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I got to tell this part of the story because it's
great, so I don't know when itwas how many months later, but
it was quite a ways like maybenine months in almost done
months later, but it was quite aways like maybe nine months in
almost done.
And I went on a date through adating app.
I was going on a state and Iwasn't going to go because he
said he was like five seven orfive eight and I'm like five
eight and I can't be withsomeone like short and because
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of my competing and my lifestyleand just how I am, I never
really went out much.
You know, it's like peoplegoing out there, going out
eating and drinking you know,and you know divorce.
I don't have the same friendsand just I don't know.
So my friends are like go on adating site and go on a dating
site, at least go meet people.
So that's what I was doing, noton the regular, but so go on
this date.
Guy was super, super nice.
(25:37):
We knew a lot of the samepeople and I can't remember if
that's when he told me, but Ithink he had one as well in his
life and had the breath of lifeand whatever.
And then he's like you want tojust go out for dinner by my
house.
And in my head I'm going Idon't really want to go because
I'm not interested.
But then I'm also going whatare you going to do?
You're going to go sit homeagain by yourself.
So I was like okay, so drivethere.
(26:00):
And part of you is also goinglike I don't want to lead this
guy on either.
You know you're like it's likea weird.
It was a weird thing, but Ithink he got the gist because I
was making fun of him a littlebit on the date.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So he probably likes that.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
if he's asking you to go meet him, so we drive down
there, I park like in front ofhis home and then we go out for
dinner and at dinner he had likeone or two drinks and he's like
you know what?
It's the same thing.
I wasn't competing, I hadliterally one drink.
I didn't even feel buzzed, Ijust had the drink.
So then we go back to his house.
In my mind I'm going.
(26:31):
I said to him if I have onedrink, I'm not going to drive.
See, he lived in a home withother roommates.
He's like you can sleep on thecouch.
I think there's a spare bedroom, whatever he said.
So I was like all right, I waslike in that effort mode, I'm so
sick of being home by myself.
My kids were always with theirdad.
I was like I'm just going to dothis.
So when we get there he goes.
Oh, can you just move your carup like a couple?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
of weeks.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
No, no, can you please move your car up a few
feet so my roommate can get hiscar in the driveway?
I'm like, yeah, like you'rethinking no, like I don't care,
get in, blow as soon as I blow.
I'm like, oh, no, fuck, fuck,fuck.
And I'm like I don't believethis.
And when you have that, youstill you have to report to a um
(27:13):
, like every month you knowprobation not probation
like similar, something likethat, something like that, and
you have to pee and she loved mebecause you know the difference
between somebody you knowthat's not not really doing this
on the regular right, I just goand pee whatever she loved me
because you know the differencebetween somebody.
You know that's not not reallydoing this on the regular.
I just go and pee whatever.
She loved me.
So I literally emailed her thesecond it happened, told her
exactly what happened.
I told the truth.
(27:34):
I said you know cause?
You're not allowed to drink atall.
It's so weird that you get aDWI, you're not even allowed to
drink period zero, like you'renot even have to have an alcohol
system, which is weird, becausewhy can't you drink if you're
not driving, but whatever,you're not allowed to have any.
I email her immediately like Iwent on a date.
She knew my whole story, youknow.
It's like, yeah, and I just waslike I don't believe this.
So of course she's like I'llcall the judge, I'm going to
(27:56):
tell her that you are, you'rereally a pillar of you know
doing the right thing andeverything, and you know.
So they gave me a second chance.
I had to go to court, pay moremoney for this incident.
That it's like so a movie,right, right.
So I go to court and now I haveto do classes and go to like
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alcohol, like whatever you callit oh, not AA, but like through
the town you have to go seepeople that are serious drug,
drug and alcohol problems.
Yeah, I didn't have to start ityet and I went on another date,
let's say a week later, and wassitting and talking and I'm
very open.
Now I'm telling this guy thestory and in his head he goes
holy shit, this is the girl,this is the girl.
(28:38):
This is how small world it is.
He had gone on a date the weekprior with a girl that was
friends with the guy I was withthe week prior, so he must've
told her the story.
Now she's telling him the storyand they're both going like who
does that?
Who blows in a breathalyzerwhen?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
they know they're drinking.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
So here I'm going and in this guy who I happened to
have really liked, and he likedme, was like that's the girl,
that's the girl, Fast forward.
That's my husband.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I married him for three years.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Oh you're kidding Together six years and at the
date he's going in and he said Iwant to tell her so bad that I
know it was just the funniestthing, but it wasn't funny,
right, okay.
So now fast forward.
It was all meant to be becausemy husband lived here.
I lived here and the placewhere I had to go every once a
week it was very close to ourhomes.
It wasn't inconvenient and Iactually wound up liking it
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because when I was younger I hadbinge eating disorder.
So like food to me was like adrug, and when these women were
talking about drug and alcohol Irelated to them in that respect
but not with drugs.
I don't have a drug or alcoholproblem, but then I started
taking over the class, I starteddoing self-help meditations and
I started teaching thempositivity and started doing all
(29:47):
these things that I said tomyself this is what I want to do
with my life.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I probably still would have done what I'm doing.
I think that's just what Iwould have done, but that really
was like wow, I want to do this, and I probably wouldn't have
known that until I was in thatsituation.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
So it subconsciously led you to where you're at right
now.
Really, when you think about it, you didn't do it purposely, I
mean it just kind of drove youin that direction and you met
this amazing man who knew yourstory and accepted you the way
the story was regardless, whichis pretty cool.
That doesn't ever happen ondating apps.
I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
No, there's a lot of people In fact, what it is it's
like, in fact, I think I'm goingto do a podcast with my husband
.
In fact, I said I want him tobe my first guest, because I
don't do guests at the momentJust starting to and I for years
never told anybody we met on adating app.
Because of that, Because it'sso like that's sleazy.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
But it's like I don.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, ten years ago I totally could see what you're
talking about, but I meannowadays it's no big deal.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
It was pretty prevalent in our age group, like
older people doing the datingapps because you know where are
you going to meet people, but Istill didn't want to tell
anybody.
So now everyone knows on yourpodcast and they'll soon know.
But I know I went all over theplace, but the moral of the
story is is number one somepeople that get DWIs certainly
don't plan on it, Obviously youhave.
I mean, when I met some of thesewomen in the classes, they were
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on their third, they werejailed.
They just I don't understandthat.
Like for me I wouldn't eventake a sip ever again If I was
driving.
I just will not, because Idon't even want to get into an
accident by accident.
And then they're like did youdrink?
And you had even one drink.
I don't want to even beanywhere near it.
So it also turned me on to Uber.
(31:30):
I didn't even know about Uberback then, so I had an Uber
everywhere I rode my bicycle.
Because here's another thingthat listeners might not know,
at least in New York if I didnot blow in a breathalyzer, it's
an automatic license suspensionfor, I think, six months.
By blowing and being under, youknow, I was high enough to be
charged, you know, but lowenough to not be a felony,
whatever Right.
(31:51):
The fact that I blew was only30 days without a license, and
then I had my license back.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, here in Washington it's a year is my
understanding If you don't blowin the breathalyzer you can do
the field sobriety, but I mean,it's a whole thing.
My husband was, my ex-husbandwas a cop too.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I understand the process.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
But if you wait, you know well, I'm not going to tell
you how to get around it but itis basically the field sobriety
test that they have you do.
That is the most humiliatingpart is exactly what you're
talking about, where they werehaving you touch your nose, walk
the line, and that is somethingyou're required to do for them
to determine if you're under theinfluence or not, and I don't
(32:31):
think you even have to do that.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I don't even think you have to do that, but then
you're getting you say take mein, Just take me in.
The thing is, in my personalopinion, I think society has
gotten like when somethinghappens bad, they try and
rectify it almost too much to afault the other way, and I'm not
even going to get on othersubjects, but with drinking I
think it should be acase-by-case basis.
On that first offense,especially if it's lower, but it
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is, it's jail time or whateverit may be.
Like you said, a year without alicense, and I think even a
friend of mine that I met inthat class, even though she had
three, and she hasn't had onesince.
She's not allowed to driveperiod.
So how is she supposed to havea job and how is she supposed to
be part of the society?
Like forever, forever, forever.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Oh, wow, wow so that I disagree with.
I do too.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Number one you want to make money, have
breathalyzers in their car.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
If anything, or maybe , or maybe only drive during
work hours or whatever you haveto do, since she's had three.
I mean, I understand thatthey're concerned, but I just
think that that's a freedom thatshould not be taken away.
When someone wants to try andbecome a better person, let's
say so you know, I just made thebest of it.
At the time I lived pretty closeto stores and I would ride my
bike and I just people weresaying, just drive, they won't
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know.
I'm like I'm a risk taker.
I'm not like Debbie Dugard orby any chance.
You know I'm not approved, butI certainly was like I'm not
risking for 30 days I'll justchill out.
You know, I took an Uber to thegym and I was like Uber's great
.
You know, I think I don't knowhow long Uber has been around,
but I don't really remember itbeing something that I thought
about back then, now of it's soprevalent.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Like 2007, 2008.
Oh was it All right, well,that's when I remember being
introduced to it.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, yeah, I'm going wow this is a trip.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I remember thinking, wow, this is kind of like a cool
thing, but I'd never done itbefore either.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, and I remember like after getting it, I
remember researching that thewoman who created Mothers
Against Drunk Drivers later ondrank at a baby shower and got
arrested on a DWI.
Wow, so it just goes to show youthat you know sometimes you
might not make the rightdecision.
But from seeing my own childrenI think at this generation,
like they just don't.
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They don't seem to.
They seem to all Uber, you know, especially the parent a lot of
times the parents are payingfor their Uber Like they just
seem to be a little bit more,like absolutely not.
And I remember growing up whenwe were younger you didn't even
get in that much trouble if youjust got caught.
God forbid if you killedsomebody.
Accident.
They would pour everything outand say yeah, walk home or just
take your keys right, Walk home,take your keys, whatever, but
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it's it's changed.
It's changed and it should.
It shouldn't be allowed.
It shouldn't be okay.
But they have to do somethingto where the people that are
repeatedly doing it they'resuspended licenses.
They don't even have a license,so like they should have.
I don't know how they can do it, but no-transcript.
(35:34):
It should be.
Like I said, my jail thing wasby oh, I didn't even say that
part my name was put into thesystem wrong, so I got sent out
to that jail and that wholeentire thing by accident, Like I
was not supposed to be sentthere.
But I, like I said I'm glad Iwas because number one I make a
joke, bucket list.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Check.
You can check that one off.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
So how was?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
how was your family, elise?
How did they like your son andyour family?
Were they supportive or how didthey respond?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, I mean my younger son, who's more mature
than I am, even to this day.
I mean they were all just likecouldn't believe that you did it
and they just, you know, theyknew it was a mistake and they
just kind of like sometimes madefun of me, had to blow on that
thing.
I was so like on point that onetime we went out for dinner,
just me and my younger son and Ihad a mint and some mints will
blow off and I made him, he willblow off and I made him.
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He was able to drive.
I was like, no, I can't do it,you do it.
But I think they weresupportive and just like my
older son was still at collegeso when he was home and I would
just blow in it, his friendswould be in the car.
It was just, I was like amaster at it, like some people
have to pull over and then blow,like I, you're allowed to do it
while you're driving and Iwould just do it, you have to
hum.
I mean, my husband at the timehe's now retired was a police
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officer so I'd go to visit himat work and he'd be talking and
then I'd have to.
You know, it's like it was justa very humiliating time and
expensive.
So people don't realize howexpensive it could be.
You know it was a minimum 10grand, definitely a little bit
more than 10 grand.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Not even the worst case.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
You know I wasn't like, I wasn't the pillar, so
pay $50 for the Uber, people,right?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yep, I mean, it's not even, because even that one
drink, if you just had it, andyou get into an accident, even
if someone hits you, just like,especially.
Let's talk about weed now,because weed is pretty, you know
, pretty legal everywhere, evenif you didn't do anything wrong
and you're under the influence,you're screwed.
Yep, and you're under theinfluence, you're screwed, so
why take that chance?
But when you're younger, youalways think it's not going to
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happen to you.
But why not be proactive?
It's so easy, or get a ridefrom a friend or a family, but a
lot of people don't plan ongetting plastered.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
They maybe have one.
Oh, I'll just have one more.
Or just leave your car whereverit is and get it the next day.
It seems like such no-braeradvice, right?
I was going to ask you know, ifyou could give advice to the
younger version of yourself oryounger people you know that are
in similar situations.
What would it be?
And it's a lot of the stuffwe're talking about now which
seems like you know I'm I'mguilty.
I'll put it out there I was youknow, with friends yesterday and
(38:01):
and had a couple of drinks andand I was there all evening so
it wasn't right away.
I get what you were saying toodrink the water.
Let time go by before we do it.
But yeah, I need to think aboutsome of this advice for myself.
I'm not going to say we all doit because you don't, but a lot
of us do that and I love that.
You're able to look back nowand see the journey that it took
(38:25):
you on Glass half full asyou're going Not a lot of people
are able to do that and thenthe outcome of this career path
that you've taken on to whereyou can help other women, other
people go through and put thesethings into practice in their
own lives.
I think it's tremendous.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah, I've always been that half, half full person
, and how else can you be?
I think my biggest concern thewhole deal was when I got into
that little van that takes youto the court because I get car
sick and there was no windowsand I'm like please just let me
get car sick.
Like that was my biggest.
I was just like I can takeanything else.
Jail throw jail at me, throwgangsters at me, just please
(39:06):
don't let me be nauseous.
But yeah, you don't think aboutit.
And up until that point,definitely times in my life
where you're going out fordinner and you might even be a
little what they say, buzzdriving, like you're not really
messed up, and I think when youknow that you can drive and
we've all done it and I don'tcare.
When, what happened to me.
I remember thinking like myhusband's probably going to use
(39:26):
this as great Like look at momdid or like my brother and, like
all these people, I felt likethey were judging me.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
And.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I remember saying to them I go, this could have been
you probably this weekend.
My kids were little and you'redoing no drive and pick it up
Like when they were going toparties or whatever.
I always did the early becauseI used to get up so early for
the gym.
So I do the drop off and theseother parents would pick up my
kid and I started to complainthey were out to dinner drinking
probably, and now they'repicking up my kid, so I was
always kind of against it and ithappened to me too, but I think
(39:55):
our bodies build up a toleranceto alcohol where you might be
able to have two glasses of wineand not really feel it,
especially if you're eating.
But I won't even do that.
I just look at it like why it'snot that I'm in the position,
with the experience, that it'snot worth it to me.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah, this is really inspirational for me because
it's not like I mean I have adrink in hand on this podcast
plenty of times and I'm notgoing anywhere after, but I'm
just sitting here thinking Ineed to take the things that
you're sharing I personally amgiving myself a little bit of a
challenge right now and toreally think about this, just
like I was saying, because I'mguilty and I need to not be.
(40:30):
Well, we do.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
We have our beverages a lot at home.
You know, like when we'rehanging because we live in this,
we live in the same structure,you know so it's.
But we don't, we're not goinganywhere.
But to your point, I mean, I'mnot a very tall person, I'm not
a very big person and I'll havea couple glasses of wine, I
don't feel buzzed, but I mean,and I have driven no problem
home.
But it's making me really thinkabout things.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
But what I'm going to say is that you don't think you
are but you are Right.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Oh, I just am taking it one or two and I'm not far
from home.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
take the Uber, take the Uber, or have somebody drive
that hasn't been drinking rightit comes down to, I think, with
society, a lot of talk aboutthe NLP, neuro-linguistic
programming.
A lot of people just are onautopilot.
So we're on autopilot, I've didit too.
You don't even say anything,you just go to dinner, you have
your wine, you get your car, yougo home and, like I was just
(41:28):
saying to Julie, it's like youmight not think your buzz be are
a little bit, you might be alittle bit.
So I would do it because I justswore to myself I hope never.
Plus, when you have one, evenif it's 15 years prior, you're
screwed.
If you have another, not that Idon't have another, but I don't
even want them to think I hadit.
I don't even want them to thinkI had a drink.
But for anyone else, yes, Isthere a limit?
You're allowed to drink anddrive.
(41:49):
Technically you're allowed tobe whatever it may be, whatever
the limit is.
But how do you know what thatis?
How do you?
know, and I think also for uswomen, our age group of the moms
.
Everyone thinks having wineevery night.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I get to the point like why are you having wine
every night?
Why is that your habit?
There's that too.
That's a whole other episode.
Yeah, that's a whole otherepisode Exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
So then it comes down to all that and, like you said,
if it's not affecting your lifebadly and you're just staying
home and you're having wineevery night, who really cares?
But then if you take that stepback and talk to someone like me
, you might be like why are youhaving it every night?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Are you trying to?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
escape.
What are you trying to do?
I mean, everybody likesdrinking wine.
I love it and I like that buzz.
Because you don't get?
I don't know, you don't get youknow loosey-goosey and whatever
.
Yeah, and I think for mepersonally, if it wasn't had
when I was menopause frustrated,mind you, I was drinking every
(42:47):
night too, because I could,because I'm not dieting and
having dessert, but I was reallyprobably drinking away some
issues that I want to.
It makes you feel good.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
I mean there's no it's just like settling into any
habit people settle into.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
It's fine and everything's fine until it's not
.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Right.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
But it definitely is something where I think, like I
said, the generation, theseyounger kids.
I think they really got it.
It seems like they all takeUbers and I don't think anyone
drives.
Better than we did for sure,right, well, they didn't have
that resource, they didn't havecell phones.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
This is one of the things that Michelle and I have
talked quite a bit about,because the generation that we
all three are in is thattransitional one between old
school and new school.
We didn't talk about DUIs, wedidn't talk about you even
blowing in anything.
I mean, I remember rollingaround in the back of some car
that one of my buddies wastaking me home and I'm listening
(43:39):
to ACDC and going around thecorner with no seatbelt.
You know you're hoping you getthere, I think my ex-husband.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
I was with him since I was 15, 16.
And I mean I'm not going to sithere and lie.
I mean we drank all night atclubs and then drove home.
I was the one that was known andI didn't even drink beer.
I drank literally.
Myers-roman Diet Coke was mygo-to drink when I was in my
early 20s and I could drive.
I was never falling on thefloor, mind you, it's not like
(44:06):
you're falling.
I think one time I actually was, and I'm not proud of any of
this, but I was able to drivebetter than any of my friends
sober.
So I was always the designateddriver, even though we were all
out drinking.
And as an adult, you think backand say thank God.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Thank God, I know I'm lucky to be alive.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Oh, me too.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
We used to drive to Idaho to the state line from
Spokane, because the drinkingage was 19 and it was 21 in
Washington.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, we would go out there and party and then drive
back to Washington.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
We'd go up to Canada, go up to Vancouver because the
drinking age was 19 up thereyeah.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
That's what I'm saying.
It's not even like you werelike oh, I really should get a
drive like you.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Just did it.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
There was no thought process at all, and then the
same thing with us now as adultswith you know a lot of our age
group.
You know you go out for dinnerwith your husbands or your
girlfriends.
You're going out for brunch andyou're having champagne or
mimosas, and you had seven,eight, nine, ten mimosas over,
but no one's thinking yeaheither you're not to have any,
or maybe one, or just get a ride, because, like you said, uber
(45:07):
what's?
Speaker 2 (45:07):
an Uber 50 bucks compared to 10,000.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Mimosas are like.
I love mimosas.
I like them with a little bitmore orange juice.
But I was just in Mexico.
As an example, we got the billfor the place we were staying at
and all the drinks.
There was a few of us there.
We had 22 mimosas between usgirls.
We weren't driving, of course,we were on vacation, but 22
(45:32):
mimosas.
I was like holy shit, theydidn't.
I don't think they had thatmuch alcohol in them because I
didn't feel like I was no theydon't.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
It doesn't, yeah, falling down or anything.
I mean, I've caught buzz off ofmimosas because you just have
so many.
Yeah, you know what I mean it'sa lot of sugar.
You're in the sun, yeah, justlike I love, I rather day drink
at Mexico and drink during theday and kind of like lay in the
sun and then take a shower andgo out for dinner and be done.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Right Yep.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Right At least an hour.
Yeah, maybe a little dancing,you know.
I love dancing, that's my thingWith anything in life.
We all have to take that stepback and have that like inner
dialogue, and it's not justabout this, but this is the
topic that we're speaking aboutand the irony of it is I did
know to have do all that in asense on the other side, before
we drove the jet ski back, youknow, get the designated driver.
(46:21):
Literally, I stood there andsaid I can't drive my jet ski
and he's like well, I'm going tocall my wife and she was
waiting for us on the other side, which she witnessed everything
, because she was alreadywaiting for us.
I did try to do the right thingand it kind of backfired, but
what's the worst that can happenif you take an Uber?
But the thing is I want to putout to the listeners too no
matter what age you are whenyou're drinking and you already
(46:41):
started you don't have that mind.
You're usually like I can drive, I can drive, no problem.
You don't have that.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Plan.
You have to have a plan.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Maybe you have to have a plan because you always
think you're not as bad as youare and you're going to think
you can drive.
And even when my kids wereyoung they'd be like, oh,
Johnny's driving, he's notdrinking.
So I'm the DD tonight.
(47:09):
I'm the DD Meanwhile, my myyounger son, for everyone that
he was friends with my older sontoo.
He was always the DD, causehe's, he should have been a
police officer himself.
He's very, very like straight.
So, he would, he would do it.
But, like I said, I think thegeneration now is, they've been
taught which we weren't taughtas much.
They've been taught like thisis what you do, so that's good,
(47:29):
that's a good thing.
But our society is always downon the teenagers and the drink
and the driving, and you can'tdrink until you're 21 and blah,
blah, blah.
But the stats show.
I don't want to make a quotebecause I don't know the exact
stats.
The stats for most people thatget DWIs are like in their
forties.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
It's not these young kids, it's the older people.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
So it's, it's you know, our age to have to, like,
cut it back a little bit or,like you said, plan ahead.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Well, thank you so much.
We are thrilled to have thisstory with us, and hear it from
someone who is at the same agereally that we are, and it's
good to hear how you managed itand how you handled it, and that
we are and it's good to hearhow you managed it and how you
handled it, and really it's beenkind of a blessing in disguise
in a lot of ways for you,Absolutely Yep, and I just want
(48:15):
to put out there and thank ourlisteners for checking us out on
YouTube and subscribing.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Keep doing it, Share with your friends.
We're out on all the socialsFacebook, Instagram, TikTok you
will find us there.
So thank you for downloading,Continue to share.
If you like what you see,follow and we just thank you so
much for listening.
Thank you, Elise, for beinghere today.
And not an easy like you weresaying close to the vest not an
easy story to share.
You decided to do it with usand we are very thankful and
(48:39):
honored that you decided to dothat, so it's a great story.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
I think it'll help a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
I hope so All right.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Until next time, I'm glad to meet you, glad to meet
you guys, period.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Share some of that sunshine with us.
I know yeah, bring it this wayAll right.
Everybody.
Have a wonderful day.
Thanks for joining us and wewill see you next week.
Bye.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah.
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