September 24, 2023 • 46 mins
Imagine trading the serene beauty of the Pacific Northwest for the buzzing streets of New York City. That's exactly what our guest, 27-year-old Celina Georgeadis did. This episode is an exciting adventure as Celina shares her unique experiences of uprooting her life from Seattle to Los Angeles and then to New York. She speaks candidly about the challenges and rewards of city life during a pandemic. Celina's story of trusting her gut and embracing change is a powerful reminder that it's never too late to make a bold move.
Our conversation doesn't just stop at her personal journey. We venture into the vibrant worlds of fashion and city living through Celina's eyes. As a fashionista, she shares her treasure trove of unique statement pieces and her experiences with Rent the Runway. For all Seattle sports enthusiasts, get a glimpse of the sports culture in New York, and hear the charming story of how a Mariners game led her to her boyfriend.
Delving deeper, we compare the contrasting cultural landscapes of the East and West Coasts. Celina's experiences in these vastly different environments offer insights into the impact of culture on our daily lives. Moreover, her spirit of adventure takes us on an exhilarating journey, from a trip to Antarctica to her fulfilled dream of going on an African safari. Whether you're in your mid-20s, a parent, or someone who's hesitant to take risks, this episode with Celina guarantees to inspire you to take a bite out of life!
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Connect with Julee & Michele on Instagram @spicy_midlife_women and send a DM about what resonated most during this episode so they can encourage you with steps forward in your own life.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
One, two, three, four .
Hey everybody, this is.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Michelle, and this is Julie, julie, your favorite
brunette.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Did you feel the animation in that introduction?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
She's being very perky.
If you go back for a coupleepisodes you'll see where she's
sticking her chest out.
She thinks that's perky.
I'm just saying her voice Perky.
All these guys are always onhere going damn, that girl's
voice is sexy.
And they're not talking aboutme, they're talking about you?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I don't think so.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Serious.
Well, hey, we are here todaywith a lovely guest, miss Selena
Georgiadas.
Hello Selena, hello Georgiadas,georgiadas.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Georgiadas.
Is that just a tiny bit Greek,just a little Greek?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yeah, just a tiny bit 10 letters of Greek.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Well, we're all going to live a little vicariously
through.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Miss.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Selena, because she is the adventure girl.
This girl has been.
She's 27 years old and she'salready been to a few different
continents and just picked herass up and moved all the way to
New York and I couldn't believethat she did it.
But we are dying to hear all ofthe details about her journey
and what she's learned so farand cool things that she's
(01:37):
experienced in New York.
So, with that in mind, we'lljust ask you a few questions
here and there, but we are dyingto get started, Please do.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
And before we start, I'm so excited to be here.
Just the intro.
I listen to it every Mondaymorning, so it was like it was
crazy a very surreal experience.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
We love that we have listeners in the New York area.
We can see that from some ofour statistics.
Ok well me.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I do make my roommates listen sometimes and
we debrief so they feel likethey know you too.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, I love it.
It's growing.
You have a contingent of.
It's very, very fun.
It's very fun when people say,oh, I know your voice.
Or I've heard people say it waslike, I feel like I know
Michelle.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I know.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I just came up to her in the driveway and was like
hey, how are you Like?
I've known her for 1,000 yearsand she was like you listen to
the podcast.
I was like, yeah, I do.
Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But yeah, so we've got the blonde and then another
blonde Selena and then myself.
So yeah, knock yourself out,girl.
Let's see what you've got goingon.
Yeah, can I just?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
say a little preview here is that you are like not
even what are you Mid 20s, 27.
So 27 years old, and reallyshe's done more than I have in
my 58 years as far as travel andadventure, oh yeah, and I guess
having kids and all that is awhole other adventure.
But I think one of the reasonswe wanted to do this is one to
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hear the possibilities fromsomebody at such a young age and
the desire and the things thatcan move you through to doing
some of these things that maybeother people your age are
hesitant to do.
So it'll be fun for them tohear that it can be done.
Or even parents for their ownkids, listening to your story
and being able to encourage them.
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So I just want to throw thatout there.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, I know, she is an adventurer, she's, she's like
we were saying earlier, like atype A adventurer type what was
it?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Top A type A free spirit, free spirit yeah which
is kind of like oxymoron.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
But hey, we'll go with it, that's good.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
But I appreciate that .
I think the adventure looksdifferent for every single
person, yeah that can be.
Dying your hair, that can be anew car that could be travel.
That could be any number ofthings.
Mine has just very much lookedlike I can't sit still, which is
true, so it's looked likemoving different places and
traveling different places.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
But, but yeah, I have a couple.
So let's start out like yougraduated high school, and then
where did you go to?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
college.
Born and raised in Seattle, Iwent to school in Los Angeles,
at USC.
I lived there for the fouryears of college and then about
two years after, but what wasweird is I graduated in 2019 and
then 2020 obviously was thepandemic.
So I was living in LA, but Iwas locked inside a one bedroom
apartment in LA, mm hmm, so Idid that, got a little bit of a
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taste.
But and then I moved back hometo Marysville so kind of a rural
suburb in Washington with myfamily.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
During the pandemic.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Mm, hmm, and kind of rode out the rest of.
We were getting a vaccine inorder and the pandemic was, I
don't want to say winding down,but the world was starting to
open back up and I basically thelong story short and then I'll
get into the longer story.
But is my work?
I was lucky to have anopportunity.
I worked for a New York basedcompany, okay, and it was a
really seamless experience.
(04:58):
They just kind of said and youwere working remotely, though
they were totally cool with that.
I was working remotely same jobfrom the time I graduated and
then I just left the company afew months ago.
But and it's in finance, infinance, I was an investment
banking and it was a reallybecause there's a New York based
company really seamlessexperience.
They just said, like, do youwant to move to New York?
And I said, yeah, and kind ofthe funny story that goes along
(05:20):
with that is my dad and I wentfor a walk.
I'd kind of identified that NewYork was sort of a place that I
had interest in moving to.
And I was going for a walk withmy dad right before this
happened and was kind of havingto melt down, was kind of saying
I'm never going to get to NewYork, like everybody else is
moving there and I'm just nevergoing to make it whatever.
And then I got home from thewalk, took off my shoes, sat
(05:43):
back down on my computer, openedup a Skype ping from my boss
that said do you want to move toNew York?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That was kind of meant to be yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I ran downstairs and like right, my eyes are still
puffy from the conversation Ihad on the walk.
And I run downstairs and I'mlike dad, I'm going to move to
New York.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
And he was like wait, what is going on?
We?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
just talked about this.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, Wait what are you talking about?
But yeah, so that was kind ofthe I guess logistical how of
how.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I got there, but you always knew you wouldn't be here
.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I knew.
So this kind of gets to justsort of having an adventurous
kind, of being an innatelyadventurous.
I love the Pacific Northwest,born and raised here, all my
family is here.
But I got to a point when I waspretty young I was probably
like 10 or something like thatand kind of just felt like I'd
been there, done that.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Sort of.
I'm like 10 years old, likewhat am I talking about?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But kind of knew that I just I wanted to explore,
like it would always be here forme and I love it and love that
it will always be here for mebut knew that I wanted to just
kind of see other things, tryother things, new foods, meet
new people.
I grew up very Catholic, so ina group of people that's very
just demographically similar tomyself, and I kind of knew there
was more out there, but Ididn't know what it was and I
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was kind of like let's go.
My dad says, take a bite out ofthe ass of life.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So, mark, but that's so Mark.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
That is what he says, and so I was like, okay, sounds
good, I'm going to go take thatbite and just take the bite of
the big apple, yeah, and justsee it could.
And honestly it could have beenNew York, that was kind of how
the cards unfolded for me, butthat means that it could have
been San Francisco, it couldhave been Chicago, it could have
been London, it could have beenSydney and it could have been
not geographically as well.
(07:22):
It could have been tryingstarting a podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So really you just want to get out and get
somewhere.
I just have always wanted toexperience and do things, and
New York just seemed to seem tobe the natural progression with
work and everything.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
It's sort of I'm big on trusting your gut and kind of
not fighting.
I think, I know you guys arevery spiritual.
I've listened to all yourepisodes but I think that the
universe kind of tells youthings or gives you gifts.
Oh for sure, it's kind of likeyou might be going in the right
direction.
And so I mean, you heard thestory about my boss pinging me
after I got back.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, having to melt down.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I was kind of like you know what.
That's a sign.
That is a sign.
I don't care what it is.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
So one of the mottos that's been top of mind, I would
say, for the last year, is manplans, god laughs.
So anytime you think you'repulling the puppet strings, I
think the big man or the stars,or whatever you believe in likes
to be like.
That's cute, Right?
No, you don't.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, you tried LA because obviously you went to
school at USC.
So just to back up a tiny bit,Selena actually had the benefit
of going to a private school inSeattle that is right by where
we live here at Lakeside.
And so her exposure to peopleyou know from all over the place
was more prevalent, I would say, than if you had gone to
(08:43):
Jackson or if you'd gone to oneof the other schools that was
out north yeah.
She commuted in every day fromMary's home.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, I was thinking about that as I was doing.
The drive today was like whyyou used to do it.
I commuted like basically twohours one way to high school and
I was driving down today andwas just like how and why did I
ever do that?
But the reason that I did it Ilook at going to that high
school instead of going to thehigh school that I was supposed
(09:09):
to go to.
It is a very like elite privateschool.
It's kind of an annoying thingto say, but it's a private
school that opens up a lot ofthings.
It opens up a lot of doors anda lot of opportunity.
Yes, and I really do look at itas the what's the expression?
Kind of the turning point.
My life would look entirelydifferent today.
Yes, If I hadn't gone there alot of stress, a lot of
sleeveless nights, a lot of hardwork and all of those things
(09:30):
and I definitely definitely feltlike a fish out of water.
I transferred in.
I came with a whole host ofsocial like high school is hard
enough, you know, and I'm kindof the girl from like the rural
suburb that's like wearing neonpink coats and bedazzled jeans
and all these city kids are likewhat are you doing?
Like who are you?
And I'm getting off topic.
(09:50):
But it definitely came with ahost of challenges but I think I
was better off for it, sure,sure, truly opened up a lot of
doors, yeah, yeah.
And that's what I would sayabout like adventure at all is.
I think there's an expression,but kind of the idea is.
I think that challengingyourself the expression of the
high school is like getcomfortable with being
(10:10):
uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
And I think it's really uncomfortable to do new
things, to experience change ofany kind, if that's a new job or
a new relationship or a newqueen.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
That's how you grow yeah, but like.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Part of being adventurous is, I think, trying
to figure out how to getcomfortable with being
uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
But after you do it for a while, you like start to
need the discomfort, thediscomfort to you get bored.
You get bored and I think thatthat's I just moved jobs.
That's why I moved jobs, Like Iwould almost say that my
biggest fear is being bored andlike stopping that personal
growth.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So then USC, and then from USC, you had obtained your
degree Yep and you were infinance.
Yeah, and I know she was.
I remember, during the pandemic, you being in California and
you were really isolated whereyou were at, because you were
living on your own and she wason her computer like all flip
and day long.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I think, yeah, I remember calling you a couple
times, but I think that was acommon experience for a lot of
People, regardless of age.
Yeah, I'll speak for the 20somethings that had just
graduated and we're trying toadjust to life outside of
university and meet new people.
Add to that a pandemic whereyou're locked inside and not
supposed to talk to other people, and I was living in a one
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bedroom apartment at my computer, 24 seven, yeah, and sounds
awful.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
It was so unnatural for everybody.
But yeah, it was a very.
I think a lot of people canrelate to the fact that the
pandemic was just like a veryisolated and I was in a one
bedroom, so that was largely thereason I moved home.
You could do the same thing athome, yeah, and you locked up
and your mom would cook for you.
Mom, would cook for me and yeah,just having more people yeah,
(11:51):
and moving home with yourparents isn't the most like
glorious move, you'll ever make,but I don't know we.
I think those decisions duringthat time were different just
like everything was, and I think, it brought families closer
together.
Yeah, yeah, I knew too.
I almost killed them a coupletimes.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
You guys were so isolated I mean, I basically
didn't see Mark for almost ayear.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
It took a very seriously, very seriously, very
seriously.
We almost killed each other acouple times but better for it,
made it out alive, yeah.
So you transitioned to New Yorkand I moved to New York in
September of 21.
Kind of as things were openingback up, so I moved, for work
was the convenient, I guess,logistical aspect of it.
(12:36):
But I kind of felt like, as aside effect of all that
isolation, people my agent in mynetwork kind of took the exact.
We're then trying to sort offight or make up for lost time
and I feel like a lot of peopleI knew were going to New York
and they were all moving thereand work gave me a really easy,
easy way to do that and therewas a lot of career opportunity
and I love it, even even if notthe pandemic, I think it's a
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really fun place to exist inyour 20s.
I had a lot of friends movingthere and and yeah, and kind of
kind of the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, yeah.
So do you think that you'llstay?
I know that we're kind ofgetting ahead of ourselves.
But Manhattan we talked aboutbeing like really cool for your
20s, yeah, and it's anincredibly fast paced
environment.
So I mean, just having beenthere for work, I was exhausted
because it's and you didn't seea lot of people that were more
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our age really, I mean, exceptthey probably commuted into the
city the ones I remember.
Or you would see people thatwould walk with their shopping
carts, you know, because theyprobably lived in one of the
high rises and went to themarket to get their vegetables
or whatever.
There's no grocery stores.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
They're grocery stores.
They're a different concept ofa grocery store than I think
your bigger bigger one.
My roommates and I.
We have a push cart.
People make fun of them all thetime.
They were ridiculous, butthey're like little push carts
that you cart all around.
We put flames on the outside ofit.
We call it lightning McQueen,so it's funny.
It is a very vibrant place.
(14:03):
I've kind of said it's great foryour 20-somethings right,
you're meeting new people andyou're darting from birthday
party to dinner party to this tothat.
You're going to this interviewand that interview and I think
there's a lot of serendipitythat happens who you meet in the
elevator or whatever.
Yeah, a lot of serendipity.
It's also exhausting, for sure.
What I was saying earlier is Ithink it's perfect for that
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mid-20s part of life whereyou're kind of young enough that
that's exciting and fun.
It also kind of keeps you.
I think some people love it whenthey're in their 30s because it
keeps you in your mid-20s.
Yeah, but I think it kind ofkeeps you there, and what I mean
by that is still everythingthey say about it kind of on the
more I don't want to saynegative side I love it.
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But it's true, it's expensive,it's fast paced.
You got to keep up, you got toreally have a lot of drive and
energy to sort of do it all thetime.
And after you've been doing itfor a number of years I can see
how people are.
Like you know, I just want abig house.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I just want to go to the Burbs.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, I just want to walk out of my front door and
not have 80,000 people walkingon my street, but at the same
time, it's one of the thingsthat I've said that I love about
it is you can take the samecommute to work every day and
every day it's a differentcommute, like just the different
things you see if it's somebodyin a costume or there's some
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event going on or whatever it is.
This week Times Square, thepipes burst and the Times Square
subway station flooded.
Oh geez.
And so just.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
New Yorkers kind of doing their thing.
You're about 30 minutes fromyour work, about 30 minutes from
work, and you take the train.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I do.
I take subway Yep, the subwayand I take.
So I walk 10 minutes and then Itake three trains.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Wow, and you're in Manhattan, yeah.
And your job is in Manhattan.
I'm a mile and a half away.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
What?
Yeah?
Okay, I'll say I take twotrains.
One of them I get on the localand I transfer to the express.
So it's still the red line, butI just like to get on the quick
train.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
And in my mind I'm like it would be quicker to walk
.
Obviously you're not going todo that in the wintertime, but
is it quicker to walk because ofthe number of people that are
on the sidewalk I always see inmovies and stuff you know all
the people and you can't hardlyget through.
Yeah, is that what it's like?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
It kind of depends on the walk.
If you're a walk.
Nobody that lives there wantsto walk through Times Square.
Gross Like really Too manytourists.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
If you are a tourist and you're visiting New York, go
to Times Square.
It's worth seeing, but if youlive there, you still have
things you have to do.
Just like Pike's Market,exactly and so there are so many
things that are right next toyou that are worth seeing that
make New York so exciting, butespecially if you're like have
this New York corporate job andyou're trying to get done,
you're trying to get done.
You're kind of like, okay, I getit, like cool, like Bella Hadid
(16:52):
, like I don't care, like getout of my way, so we were
telling the story earlier today.
My boyfriend works on 96thStreet, which is the street that
the president takes when hecomes into town.
And so everybody has stopped tobe like the president is coming
.
The president is coming andeverybody that he works with is
like throwing elbows.
It's like I get it, like getout of my way.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Like I gotta get to work, like come on.
So it's kind of funny.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
The reason you love New York is also kind of the
reason that you get the thingsthat can be challenging.
Yeah, I don't want to sayburnout of New York, but it's
funny you look at your laugh, solet's talk about your living
situation.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yes, people are going to get blown away by this this
is very famously.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
New York is famous for not being a very expensive
place to live, Right?
So I'll just talk about myliving situation because I think
it's fairly representative.
I have two roommates and welive in an apartment in the West
Village, which is definitely akind of happening spot.
We're definitely paying forlocation.
I would say we pay $7,000 amonth, Not each of us.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That is the whole apartment to be clear Between
three of you 500 square feet.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
It's like 500 square feet plus or minus I don't know
the exact square footage, butit's about 500 square feet.
It's legally a one bedroom.
But I will clarify we each dohave our own room.
You need legally to beconsidered a bedroom, you need
to have a window and you need tohave I believe you also need to
have four walls.
That's the criteria we'reworking with.
One bedroom doesn't have awindow.
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One bedroom is this is kind ofa New York concept but is a flex
room, so has three walls andthen you can either construct
sort of a makeshift fourth wallor, in our case, it has sliding
doors, but then that is thewindow in the flex room is also
the window to the common area,so need to have the doors open
to get the light.
And then my room I upgraded tothe master this year is the
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smallest room, but I do haveboth a window and a door.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Do you have a closet?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I do.
I'm very lucky I have a bigcloset for New York.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
A big closet for New York, so who knows what size
that is.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
It's a normal size closet.
Okay, truly, but I count myblessings, yeah, and so there's
three of us that share and Iguess the other thing so we're
quote unquote three bedrooms,one bathroom and then a washer
dryer is the other big.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
That's amazing yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Is the other big luxury for our apartment.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So a lot of people so going okay, this is real basic
stuff, but you have a, you havea washer dryer, which is kind of
uncommon, yeah.
And so people either go to alaundromat or they have their
laundry done for them.
Yeah, you're saying pack andfold.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
So what's common?
Instead of going to alaundromat where you sit and you
wash it yourself, you do thequarters and the whole thing.
You drop it off at a facility,or I think there are some that
come and pick it up for you andthey wash your clothes and then
they fold your clothes, which isawesome because then you don't
have to do laundry.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I'd totally be doing that.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I know.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, not if I, although if I was having to pay,
you know, like 20, whatever,$1,000 a month, I might not.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
It's, I want to say it's like reasonable, maybe like
60 bucks a month kind of athing.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I could be.
I don't.
I mean, I have a washer dryerin you.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So she doesn't have to worry about it.
So I don't have to worry aboutit.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
But I want to say that is so if your least
favorite chore is laundry,honestly it's kind of the way to
go, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
So it's pretty typical, though, like what you
just explained to us.
You said is pretty average,like that amount of rent.
I know you're paying forlocation, but for the size and
kind of yeah there's, I wouldsay, location.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah, location is probably driving the hire and
after the pandemic, rent hasfluctuated quite a bit.
There was a period of time wheneverybody kind of right when I
moved was coming back to thecity where it rents were at all
time highs.
And then they kind of chilledout a little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
so it ebbs and flows, but I would imagine you don't
have a car.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I would I mean yeah, where would you put it?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
That's why I'm just sitting here like what are gas
prices?
And then I was thinking whocares Like who has a car in New
York?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
And that's kind of the best.
Thing.
It was getting rid of the car Imissed, going for a joy ride
that whole.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Thing.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
But it's great to not have to worry about and also
financially to not have to worryabout.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It's great and you wouldn't need it.
You don't need it.
You really don't need it.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So I guess there's that trade-in a little bit of it
, Like you don't have thatexpense.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Right yeah, so your automobile budget becomes your
dinner budget.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, her going out budget.
Her going out budget, yeah, doyou?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
eat much at home, or is it no?
So that's kind of a thing too.
I'm notoriously terrible cookWell, and would you say that's
pretty typical, for yeah,there's a lot of restaurants
there.
For people your age in New York, a lot of restaurants.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Kitchen space is hard , produce goes bad really fast
Like we talk about that all thetime Like it's hard to keep
produce for more than a coupledays.
Yeah, you're working late, soby the time you get off work
extra late, it's hard to like gohome and cook and like get the
time, and I know that's hardanywhere.
But yeah, I'd say it's prettytypical on average.
I would say in New York I wouldimagine people go out far less
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than in other cities.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, or go out far more.
Go out far more.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Just the accessibility.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So tell us about the nightlife.
The nightlife is very good.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
There's kind of something for anybody.
One of my roommates is moreintroverted and definitely
benefits more from the sort oftheater, museum, bookstore,
coffee shop scene Kind of more.
I guess I'd call it likestructured activities, the arts
that scene.
But then my other roommatedefinitely benefits more from
the bars and the not so muchclubs.
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We don't really have that muchenergy anymore, yeah, but more
so.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Did she just say they don't have the agenda Right, or
she's 27.
Oh my.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
God Clubs.
That was like that wasshort-lived.
Yeah, that was a 22 to 24 sortof endeavor.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, but they're there if you're into those.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Have you been to?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
some.
I mean, have you been to some?
I've been to some.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
There is some Just for the experience, totally, but
a lot of the like if it's DJsor it starts so late, like it'll
start at like midnight or 2 amor something like that, and I'm
like deep in REM sleep by 2 amkind of no matter what I've done
, yeah.
That's maybe me personally, butit's there if you want it.
But I think just theaccessibility this kind of gets
to the subways and everything,just the accessibility of bar I
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don't want to say bar hopping,because you don't always- have
to bar hop.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
But there's Now we want to be out and about in New
York City like all night, buttruly from what you're saying,
it is the city that never sleeps.
It is.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
And it's because of that, I think it's also safe.
I know that's a big concernalso with people anywhere.
I mean because you have peoplemilling about all the time.
It is safe, you feel like thereare people around you.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
It's probably a false sense of security too.
I don't really know.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Well, as long as you're aware, that's kind of
what is most important.
I would say and there's-, whatabout fashion?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
It's the best part.
It's the best part.
And the closets are not bigenough.
But you have different seasonsis the best thing, and so we're
at.
Fall fashion is upon us and sothey're breaking out the long
coats the long jackets and theboots and the sweaters and the
denim and the corduroy and allof that.
So that's very fun.
And then, because you havetruly like four seasons, you
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kind of have a different, alittle bit of a different
wardrobe for every season.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I just Not Birkenstocks and socks.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
No, I'm Birkenstocks and Patagonia.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, they don't have that there no no.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Patagonia.
Yeah, and she's got herCanadian geese, canadian goose
jacket, canada goose.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
American swan is what my dad says or something like
that.
But the fashion is kind of thebest Because it's fun you know,
fun to dress up.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I don't know.
I love that aspect of it.
I just joined Rent the Runwayso that I can what's that you
don't know Rent the Runway?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Oh yeah, I've heard of that.
So you have to have a lot ofevents and things to go to like.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Oh yeah, what is it you?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
don't so it's basically a you pay a
subscription and you can pickdifferent plans.
I picked like the 10 item amonth plan and you rent it.
They close, yes, so there's thebest ways to sort of curate
your box, but you basically paya fee.
I think the one that I paid forwas like $100 a month.
It was on sale or something.
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You get 10 items that you cantry out and they make the
shipping and then the sendingback really easy.
They'll come to your door.
I haven't done it yet.
I signed up on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
So you're buying them , no, you're renting them.
Oh, you're renting them.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
But then also you can buy it for way discounts, okay,
and so for me, who was kind ofdoing the same thing anyway, to
go shopping was just buying abunch of stuff, seeing what fits
and then sending it back.
It's an easy way of doing thattoo.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
And then you get things that are kind of unique
or statement pieces.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Because everybody in New York is trying something new
with fashion and is pretty boldand unapologetic about it, so
it's fun.
I think about that a lot Likeif I were to move back, like I
would miss, I wouldn't get towear all my nice or not
necessarily nice, but my likefun out there pieces Unique.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
She would have to wear them to Marysville
Strawberry Festival or something.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Casino.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
The casino in my house.
The casino, yeah, yeah, oh mygosh.
So you did end up seeking out aplace I know that was Seattle
based right To watch some games.
So she's a big sports fan.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I do Like a sports bar there that is Seattle based.
Yeah, oh cool yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
So I'm a big, and I'm in particular, a big baseball
fan.
I just summer baseball.
There's something about summerbaseball that I just sticks with
me and the Seattle Marinerswere good for the first time
this year and since 2001,.
I think the last time they madethe playoffs, and so not a lot
of my girlfriends like to watchsports and I don't get, didn't
get it on the local channel, sothey have like I think it's
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normally a Seahawks bar Okay,but because the Mariners were
good this year, they wereplaying like the Mariners game.
So I, yeah, went to a Seattlebar by myself.
My friend calls me a walkingred flag because I went to the
bar by myself.
You were at least wearing ajersey, I was, everybody in the
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bar was wearing the jersey, andso one of the things I'll take a
quick pause in the story that Ilove about New York is that
it's a city of transplants andbecause of that, everybody's
very energized to meet newpeople.
And especially people fromSeattle that already have so
much hometown pride.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
You get them across the country and if you find
somebody else that's fromSeattle, it's like instant
friendship.
You're like, oh like, do youknow Thiny Ridge, or did?
Where did you go to school?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Right, we start talking about the geography.
Yeah, yeah, just like the issuch a small city kind of?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, it really is that it's sort of instant
friends, and so I knew, walkinginto this Seattle bar, I was
intentionally going knowing thatone Seattle we'd already have
something in common and yeah,that if we're watching the
Mariners we haven't been good ina really long time.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
So you're already sort of bonded through that.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
So, anyway, and then the fun detail that I'm sure
you're gunning for here is thatI actually met my boyfriend
there.
He did the same thing.
He went to the bar, notnecessarily trying to meet
people, just wanted to watch thegame.
Is from Seattle, why not?
Sort of a thing.
We both went to the bar byourselves and we have different
versions of this story.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
He says it's always the case, always the case.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Like she saw me from across the room, thought I was
so cute and came up to me andhad to talk to me and I'm like
no, no, it was the only openseat at the bar and I, like am
clearly very talkative.
So I looked over and was like,oh, are you from Seattle?
And the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, but she's like the golden unicorn.
The woman wearing a jerseygoing to a sports bar by herself
to watch the playoffs.
I mean every guy would belining up had they known she was
there.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
No.
And now he's like wait, that'sa great way to pick up gap, Like
it's a great way to pick upguys, Like all girls should do
that.
And I'm like that's not why Iwas going to the bar to be clear
, like I just wanted to watchthe game.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
But, oh my gosh, yeah , he's got your number.
Yeah, he's got your number,yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Yeah, he does.
So that is the fun story.
But yeah, kind of a sort of aNew York mentality, I guess the
whole city of transplants thing,by virtue of that people being
very open to other people, and Ithink New York kind of attracts
an adventurous person.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Somebody that's willing to kind of say hi to the
person next to them, like isn'tnecessarily afraid to talk to a
stranger, kind of a thing.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So in the Seattle, so on the flip side of that, the
Seattle area, you had mentionedsomething, when we were kind of
preparing, about the Seattlefreeze.
Do you think that really istrue?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
So I haven't lived in Seattle as an adult, yeah, so I
haven't tried to like make newfriends in Seattle.
So I might not be the bestsource, but from what I've heard
from my friends that have movedhere, they say it's absolutely
a thing.
And what he'll say, becausehe's from Seattle, is people
that grow up here and then theyhave friends here.
They like don't need newfriends, they're comfortable in
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their friend groups.
And there's kind of thismentality where it's like, oh,
it would be awkward if I went upand talked to them.
Like they don't want to talk tome or hey, how are you Nice to
see you, like we should get acoffee.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
But that would be weird here.
But yeah, that's what you'resaying.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
No well, or there's, they'll say it, but there's no
intention to actually do it.
People have other things goingon.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
That's what we talked about.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, they're nice up front and they say it, and yeah
, we should.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Well, it's a passive aggressive thing.
Yeah, that's notorious.
We've heard it many times fromdifferent people.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I don't know.
I hope that's not a thing and Ihave a Seattle community to
come back to when I come back.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
But I definitely felt that way about LA People kind
of grow up there and kind ofhave their high west coast thing
Maybe.
Or I feel like San Francisco.
I haven't lived in DC, but I'velived in San Francisco and
people in San Francisco alsocity of transplants very much
open to meeting other people andkind of that same energy.
Say, uber pool was a huge thingwhen I was there in 2018.
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And I made a couple of friendsin the backseat sharing Ubers.
It was like oh, hey, you'regreat, like let's go get a drink
at a bar and we'd go get adrink at a bar versus, I think,
the cities where people tend togrow up there and then stay
there, there's less incentive tomake new friends.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
So the city of transplants is the key.
Well, we have a city oftransplants.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
here too, Increasingly more.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
But it's all tech, most of it's tech.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
But look at how compact New York is.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, so you have no choice but to maybe try and talk
to so many.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
True, that's really true.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, You're like so culturally super different.
Like the way people communicateis very different.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
That's what I've found is just there's a certain
like directness about people.
You know they'll tell you likeif you're, if it's the coffee
thing or if it's.
I.
Just I kind of think of themove out of the way, like hey,
I'm walking here, like thatexample, like people will be
like I like, I'd be, like, sayplease or like please move.
But they'll also help you, ifyou like, spill your groceries
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from the ground and pick it up.
So it's just more.
It's not mean, it's just directDirect.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I think you have that Ludacris song for some reason
Move.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Get out the way, get out the way, get out the way
she's talking Get out the way.
Beech Get out the way.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
She had to throw that part in there.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Well, so what do you?
You know, when you have theability to kind of compare two
different cultures really EastCoast culture, west Coast
culture and so we're going tohave people that are listening
from the East Coast and they'regoing to be like, wow, west
Coast is so much different.
They probably already knew that, but what do you feel are
things that you have broughtwith you to the East Coast from
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here?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
That's a good question.
I was just going to say that'sa good question, Jules.
That's a really good question.
Hey, thanks guys.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I don't know.
I think that the West Coast letme think about that is very
laid back.
I don't necessarily know if Iwant to say there's like a
certain like groundedness orlike granoliness.
It's less earthiness, like it'sless.
When I think about even, likebeing in high school, like I
feel like the East Coast kidsare always like very go, go, go.
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They're from the minute theyshow up, like when they're
little kids they're worriedabout where am I going to
college?
Or at least maybe that's.
I don't know, I'm in finance,maybe that's the circles I run
in, but it's a very achievementoriented, very corporate, very
buttoned up, very polished, verystiff as a good word, yeah.
Versus.
I feel like the West Coast is alittle bit more laid back.
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Layed back, come as you are,hang out when your Birkenstocks.
Yeah, like West Coast.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, Michelle's throwing up her W her.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
W signs here yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yeah, a little bit more.
It's less like I'm trying touse this as more of an analogy
than exactly this specificexample, but it's a lot less
concerned with like where didyou go to college and more sort
of worried about can you hangout.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, sort of.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Like do you pass the airport test Right, that kind of
a thing, and so maybe I bring alittle bit of laid backness.
I feel like people can't insome ways, kind of can't, get a.
If they were to guess where I'mfrom, they're like I think I'm
an East Coast, a born EastCoaster that grew up on the West
.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Coast.
Okay, if that makes sense.
So you're always moving prettyfast yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
I got scolded today because we were trying to walk.
What's it like?
Not Saunders?
Like walk leisurely, stroll,stroll.
I was trying to stroll and theywere like you stroll really
quickly.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I do that too.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
She's got a purpose, man.
She's going somewhere with apurpose.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I got.
Look, I can stop and smell theroses, but I'm smelling them
quick yeah it's okay.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
So if you've got, let's just say we've got people
that are right around your age,or 25 to 35, say years old, and
they're considering having somekind of an adventure like this
are there different things thatyou can give them as examples?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
I think adventure looks different for every single
person.
That can look.
For some people that can looklike dyeing your hair.
For some people, that can looklike starting a podcast, for
some people that can look likemoving across the country or
travel or what have you sort of.
But I think that the biggestthing for me when I'm picking a
new adventure is it's not reallylike a conscious decision, it's
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sort of like trust your gut,sort of.
I would say that moving to NewYork sort of started off as a
thought and one that I was likeoriginally I don't want to say
opposed to but I was kind oflike no, no, no, that's not,
that's probably not for me.
But then, slowly but surely,the universe sort of started
giving me, putting it sort of inmy path, and I just sort of
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started warming up to the ideaand warming up to the idea, and
then it was kind of like wait, Ithink I actually do want that.
And then sort of the pieces,all of the puzzle pieces, sort
of fell into place.
I would say the same is truefor any adventure.
If you've always wanted totravel to a certain place but
you thought like maybe it wasn'tattainable, just start with
like a little savings goal, likebaby steps, right, you don't
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have to like.
Let's say you want to like goto I don't know, travel to
foreign country, africa,somewhere Just, and it seems
super financially like notattainable.
Just save, try to save $500.
And then your $500 towardwhatever your travel goal is and
you just, slowly but surely,sort of work your way there.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I don't know if that answered the question.
Yeah, it does.
I just I know you're kind of anadventurous spirit, so the
whole idea of moving to New Yorkit's like.
I mean, I know a lot of peopleyour age and you're the only one
I know that would actuallyconsider doing it.
But I think that's wonderfulyou know but it's also kind of
takes on the same idea when itcomes to your travel because
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you've done some other kind ofcrazy things she just kind of
goes.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I was gonna say she said when she was answering your
last question she said you knowwhen you're picking your
adventure?
I was like what else have youdone?
What other adventurous thingshave you done?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I've had quite a travel year, I would say.
I had a significant amount ofpaytime off and I honestly had a
lot of decision paralysisbecause I had a month of PTO and
it was like you kind of feellike the world is your oyster
and it's sort of like you can doanything with it.
What do you do?
I tend to fall into the categoryof I put way too much pressure
on that decision but, I, waslike, let's do something that I
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could kind of never do again,and so I decided to go to
Antarctica.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, and then the polar plunge I saw.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Yeah, oh wow, from the time I booked the trip to
the time I got on the plane wasnine days.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Yeah, and what's great about that, if anybody's
interested in going toAntarctica is you get last
minute deals where they'rebasically selling rooms at cost.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Really.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Yeah, and so I got a good deal that way, and that is
an adventure that isn't superapplicable to everybody, because
I had paid time off that Icould take at a ridiculous kind
of amount of paytime off.
I was in the financialsituation where I could and I
didn't have anything tying medown Like I don't have pets.
I don't have pets, I don't havekids, I don't have kind of
anybody that would worry aboutit that way, and so I did that
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earlier this year, and so thatwas great.
That was in November, and thenI had more PTO, it doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
was.
I want her job.
Wait, how was the polar plunge?
Yeah, how was the polar plunge?
Really Before you tell us aboutthe next, really cold.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Uh-huh.
They applicable to anyadventure you take.
You just kind of have to takethe plunge.
Yeah, you just kind of have to.
Don't think, just do Make sureyou're safe.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
But, and they strap you up.
So you are, you don't.
You're not in warm gear, Like Iwent in a bathing suit.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Some people did it naked, but there were.
There were icebergs around.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
There were icebergs around.
Yeah, it was beautiful Likeabsolutely beautiful, but you're
not.
You're in like a regularbathing suit.
A couple of my friends did itnaked, like you're Really, yeah,
like you're not in any kind ofspecial gear, and they stick a
harness to you because it's socold that, like that's dangerous
jumping into the water.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
And then jumping into shock and pass out.
So they stick a harness aroundyou and they hook you in so that
they can pull you up, in caseyou do.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
How long do they?
You jump in and get out.
Oh, it's gonna say yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
You jump in and get out and they have a shot of
tequila waiting for you at theend.
So To warm you up, to warm youup, and then we.
I was lucky and there was ajacuzzi on the top deck.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Oh, wow so I literally sprinted up.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
But some people the line I was lucky in, like almost
everybody on my boat I don'tremember there was like 200
people on my boat, did it almost.
So there was like a long line.
So if you had gotten to theback of the line you were in
line and then you were jumpingin.
I was like the third person tojump, I was like get me in, get
me out.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, that's what I would want to do.
Yeah, just like yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
But I mean it's, would I do it again?
I recommend it to anybody.
Good, but I kind of checked itoff the bucket list.
Right, I was gonna say once Ihate being cold so I don't know,
I'm good, but it's again to anyadventure you kind of just have
to close your eyes count tothree, do it.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Okay, what was the next?
Speaker 4 (39:23):
adventure.
Also on the theme of travel,what I originally thought I was
gonna do on my PTO was I'vealways wanted to go safari in
Africa.
You almost came with me, Ialmost.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
oh, I wanted to go with her, so bad.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
And I wish I could have made it work.
I was moving jobs, so I had todo it while I was at the job
where I had all the PTO.
Yeah, but I'd always wanted togo safari in Africa and so also
booked pretty last minute.
But yeah, I went.
That was in May or June.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
She didn't want to go on that one on her own.
She went to Antarctica on herown.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
But you ended up having a friend that went with
you to Africa, right.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Africa.
I was ready to go by myself Iassumed that I was going to and
I called my friend, who I hadn'ttalked to in probably six
months, and I was just checkingin just like, hey, like how are
you doing, like catching up, andshe goes, I'm okay, like I just
got laid off and I was like, ohmy gosh, I'm so sorry to hear
that, but it sounds like youhave a lot of free time.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Do you want to come to Africa?
Like knowing she's from NewZealand, she's totally an animal
person, Like I was sort of justthrowing it out, taking a shot
in the dark but, knowing thatlike she'd totally be interested
if she could make it work, andshe was like, yeah, one of those
things that we're probablymeant to be.
And her partner it's not a tripthat ever would have interested
her.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
So I think.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
To her too, it was kind of like a wait.
This is kind of an opportunity,that why not?
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
There's so many things that you could do that
you can talk yourself out of soeasily.
It's just easier to stay athome, tucked under a blanket
watching.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, michelle, have you ever heard that before?
Really?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, I don't know it's easier to stay at home.
Oh yeah, we were just talkingabout that the other time.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
And I like staying tucked at home.
Don't get me wrong.
Just in between, you know forthe two ways International trips
.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
So I had heard from someone, probably one of your
parents, that you were.
Your goal was to hit everycontinent before you turned 30.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Yeah, well, I'm five, I only have two left.
Yeah, so it was not a goal thatI set out for originally, but
I've had kind of a ridiculousyear.
That again like I in no wayplanned.
If you had told me 12 monthsago I was going to both Africa
and Antarctica, I would havebeen like you're insane, like
there's no way, that's going tohappen, but it just kind of has
happened that way.
Yeah and I, you have to stop inSouth Africa to get to
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Antarctica, and I've been sortof before, briefly so, across
those two off, and so now all Ihave to hit is Australia and
Asia.
Oh, so if you're looking totravel in 2024, I need a travel
buddy, or 25 or 20, I got acouple of years till I'm 30, but
yeah.
And that's kind of arbitrary.
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If I hit it by the time I'm 31,I won't shed a tear.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Right, yeah, oh, you'll do it yeah.
You'll totally do it by thetime you're 30.
I know why not.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
You know, it's fun?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I don't know, so do you?
Would you recommend someonetaking this adventure?
Yeah, they are around your ageand just trying to figure out
life.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Yeah, not if you don't have a desire to.
Some people don't, and I can'texactly relate, just because
that's my desire, for adventurehas always kind of been such an
innate thing, right.
So if you're the kind of personthat's truly content my brother
is this way you're trulycontent to just be and to do the
same things that you do all thetime.
And he just wants to commit toone thing and get good at that
(42:36):
one thing.
Then power to you.
Like if you are fulfilled withthat, then seriously like that's
awesome and that's really cooland that's great.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Do it Exactly.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
But if you're the kind of person that has been,
like I really want to, but Ican't afford it, or but I can't
get the PTO, or but I, whatabout my dog?
Or but like whatever, like ifyou have butts, if you have, if
you want to do it, but you keepfinding reasons not to.
Yeah, talking yourself out ofit.
Then I just kind of think,figure it out.
That maybe that's harsh, but Idon't know.
(43:06):
Life's too short you know, I.
Maybe it's a fear of havingregrets.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
It might be harsh, but you're a New Yorker now.
Yeah, but I'm really direct, soshe's very direct now.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
I'm a big believer in like do the things that scare
you right, Because it's wherepersonal growth comes from and
what's the worst that can happen?
You?
Speaker 3 (43:22):
hate it.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Yeah and you leave.
You've had, you had a learningexperience, exactly.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
And you don't do it again.
Yeah, but you wouldn't knowunless you went Exactly.
That's what.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
I love.
I love that adventurous spirit.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
That's yeah we always have kind of wondered if you
were my daughter.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
No, it's.
It's kind of crazy.
We're just like can we switch?
I think we look a little bitmore like that.
I look like my mom and I thinkwe have a more similar
personality traits.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
That's how it's supposed to be, though.
So then you have there's alwaysthat one auntie.
You've got a niece, I know.
That's it, but that's what I'msaying.
I know she's your only auntie.
I mean on that side of thefamily?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, only one that she talks to, but there's always
that one that you're reallyclose to.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
I feel like Seens like yeah, it's true, and I
think especially like I don'tknow, I feel like to the women
in your life.
The older I get, the more Ijust feel like it's less of that
parental relationship and morejust.
You see eye to eye hopefullymaybe not everybody, but eye to
eye on things and just becomefriends.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Friends.
Yeah, that's exactly what endsup happening.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
And then till they ask you for money.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Oh, just kidding.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Can you bed, mommy?
That's.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Jared.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'll pay you back on payday Okay whatever Some things
haven't changed.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
No and some things never will no.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Good old family dynamics, that's right.
Well, thank you so much.
Thank you for having me.
She's actually on a timerestriction here, because she
actually is jumping on a planehere in just a couple hours and
flying back to New York City Onthe red eye.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah, we'll be on the red and then she'll probably go
to work tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yeah, still by my apartment for a cold shower and
head into work, head into work.
So thank you so much for likemaking this a stop.
We appreciate you taking thetime.
Thank you for having meLiterally on your way out of the
city, and it was so fun.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Thank you for having me.
Yes, I'm so excited to beinvited on.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
We're going to definitely have to do it again.
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
And everybody check us out on all our socials.
You know we're on Facebook,tiktok and Instagram, so you can
find us there.
Share us with your friends ifyou like us, and we'd appreciate
that.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And like us if you share us.
Yeah, oh, yeah, oh, oh, oh, Iguess that too.
I guess we're sharing Michelle,now All right On that note.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
We'll just say till next time.
All right, have a good oneeverybody.
All right, bye, Bye.
One, two, three, four .
Hey everybody, this is.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Michelle, and this is Julie, julie, your favorite
brunette.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Did you feel the animation in that introduction?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
She's being very perky.
If you go back for a coupleepisodes you'll see where she's
sticking her chest out.
She thinks that's perky.
I'm just saying her voice Perky.
All these guys are always onhere going damn, that girl's
voice is sexy.
And they're not talking aboutme, they're talking about you?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I don't think so.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Serious.
Well, hey, we are here todaywith a lovely guest, miss Selena
Georgiadas.
Hello Selena, hello Georgiadas,georgiadas.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Georgiadas.
Is that just a tiny bit Greek,just a little Greek?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yeah, just a tiny bit 10 letters of Greek.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Well, we're all going to live a little vicariously
through.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Miss.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Selena, because she is the adventure girl.
This girl has been.
She's 27 years old and she'salready been to a few different
continents and just picked herass up and moved all the way to
New York and I couldn't believethat she did it.
But we are dying to hear all ofthe details about her journey
and what she's learned so farand cool things that she's
(01:37):
experienced in New York.
So, with that in mind, we'lljust ask you a few questions
here and there, but we are dyingto get started, Please do.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
And before we start, I'm so excited to be here.
Just the intro.
I listen to it every Mondaymorning, so it was like it was
crazy a very surreal experience.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
We love that we have listeners in the New York area.
We can see that from some ofour statistics.
Ok well me.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I do make my roommates listen sometimes and
we debrief so they feel likethey know you too.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, I love it.
It's growing.
You have a contingent of.
It's very, very fun.
It's very fun when people say,oh, I know your voice.
Or I've heard people say it waslike, I feel like I know
Michelle.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I know.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I just came up to her in the driveway and was like
hey, how are you Like?
I've known her for 1,000 yearsand she was like you listen to
the podcast.
I was like, yeah, I do.
Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But yeah, so we've got the blonde and then another
blonde Selena and then myself.
So yeah, knock yourself out,girl.
Let's see what you've got goingon.
Yeah, can I just?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
say a little preview here is that you are like not
even what are you Mid 20s, 27.
So 27 years old, and reallyshe's done more than I have in
my 58 years as far as travel andadventure, oh yeah, and I guess
having kids and all that is awhole other adventure.
But I think one of the reasonswe wanted to do this is one to
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hear the possibilities fromsomebody at such a young age and
the desire and the things thatcan move you through to doing
some of these things that maybeother people your age are
hesitant to do.
So it'll be fun for them tohear that it can be done.
Or even parents for their ownkids, listening to your story
and being able to encourage them.
(03:24):
So I just want to throw thatout there.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, I know, she is an adventurer, she's, she's like
we were saying earlier, like atype A adventurer type what was
it?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Top A type A free spirit, free spirit yeah which
is kind of like oxymoron.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
But hey, we'll go with it, that's good.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
But I appreciate that .
I think the adventure looksdifferent for every single
person, yeah that can be.
Dying your hair, that can be anew car that could be travel.
That could be any number ofthings.
Mine has just very much lookedlike I can't sit still, which is
true, so it's looked likemoving different places and
traveling different places.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
But, but yeah, I have a couple.
So let's start out like yougraduated high school, and then
where did you go to?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
college.
Born and raised in Seattle, Iwent to school in Los Angeles,
at USC.
I lived there for the fouryears of college and then about
two years after, but what wasweird is I graduated in 2019 and
then 2020 obviously was thepandemic.
So I was living in LA, but Iwas locked inside a one bedroom
apartment in LA, mm hmm, so Idid that, got a little bit of a
(04:29):
taste.
But and then I moved back hometo Marysville so kind of a rural
suburb in Washington with myfamily.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
During the pandemic.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Mm, hmm, and kind of rode out the rest of.
We were getting a vaccine inorder and the pandemic was, I
don't want to say winding down,but the world was starting to
open back up and I basically thelong story short and then I'll
get into the longer story.
But is my work?
I was lucky to have anopportunity.
I worked for a New York basedcompany, okay, and it was a
really seamless experience.
(04:58):
They just kind of said and youwere working remotely, though
they were totally cool with that.
I was working remotely same jobfrom the time I graduated and
then I just left the company afew months ago.
But and it's in finance, infinance, I was an investment
banking and it was a reallybecause there's a New York based
company really seamlessexperience.
They just said, like, do youwant to move to New York?
And I said, yeah, and kind ofthe funny story that goes along
(05:20):
with that is my dad and I wentfor a walk.
I'd kind of identified that NewYork was sort of a place that I
had interest in moving to.
And I was going for a walk withmy dad right before this
happened and was kind of havingto melt down, was kind of saying
I'm never going to get to NewYork, like everybody else is
moving there and I'm just nevergoing to make it whatever.
And then I got home from thewalk, took off my shoes, sat
(05:43):
back down on my computer, openedup a Skype ping from my boss
that said do you want to move toNew York?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That was kind of meant to be yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I ran downstairs and like right, my eyes are still
puffy from the conversation Ihad on the walk.
And I run downstairs and I'mlike dad, I'm going to move to
New York.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
And he was like wait, what is going on?
We?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
just talked about this.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, Wait what are you talking about?
But yeah, so that was kind ofthe I guess logistical how of
how.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I got there, but you always knew you wouldn't be here
.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I knew.
So this kind of gets to justsort of having an adventurous
kind, of being an innatelyadventurous.
I love the Pacific Northwest,born and raised here, all my
family is here.
But I got to a point when I waspretty young I was probably
like 10 or something like thatand kind of just felt like I'd
been there, done that.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Sort of.
I'm like 10 years old, likewhat am I talking about?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But kind of knew that I just I wanted to explore,
like it would always be here forme and I love it and love that
it will always be here for mebut knew that I wanted to just
kind of see other things, tryother things, new foods, meet
new people.
I grew up very Catholic, so ina group of people that's very
just demographically similar tomyself, and I kind of knew there
was more out there, but Ididn't know what it was and I
(06:54):
was kind of like let's go.
My dad says, take a bite out ofthe ass of life.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So, mark, but that's so Mark.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
That is what he says, and so I was like, okay, sounds
good, I'm going to go take thatbite and just take the bite of
the big apple, yeah, and justsee it could.
And honestly it could have beenNew York, that was kind of how
the cards unfolded for me, butthat means that it could have
been San Francisco, it couldhave been Chicago, it could have
been London, it could have beenSydney and it could have been
not geographically as well.
(07:22):
It could have been tryingstarting a podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So really you just want to get out and get
somewhere.
I just have always wanted toexperience and do things, and
New York just seemed to seem tobe the natural progression with
work and everything.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
It's sort of I'm big on trusting your gut and kind of
not fighting.
I think, I know you guys arevery spiritual.
I've listened to all yourepisodes but I think that the
universe kind of tells youthings or gives you gifts.
Oh for sure, it's kind of likeyou might be going in the right
direction.
And so I mean, you heard thestory about my boss pinging me
after I got back.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, having to melt down.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I was kind of like you know what.
That's a sign.
That is a sign.
I don't care what it is.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
So one of the mottos that's been top of mind, I would
say, for the last year, is manplans, god laughs.
So anytime you think you'repulling the puppet strings, I
think the big man or the stars,or whatever you believe in likes
to be like.
That's cute, Right?
No, you don't.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, you tried LA because obviously you went to
school at USC.
So just to back up a tiny bit,Selena actually had the benefit
of going to a private school inSeattle that is right by where
we live here at Lakeside.
And so her exposure to peopleyou know from all over the place
was more prevalent, I would say, than if you had gone to
(08:43):
Jackson or if you'd gone to oneof the other schools that was
out north yeah.
She commuted in every day fromMary's home.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, I was thinking about that as I was doing.
The drive today was like whyyou used to do it.
I commuted like basically twohours one way to high school and
I was driving down today andwas just like how and why did I
ever do that?
But the reason that I did it Ilook at going to that high
school instead of going to thehigh school that I was supposed
(09:09):
to go to.
It is a very like elite privateschool.
It's kind of an annoying thingto say, but it's a private
school that opens up a lot ofthings.
It opens up a lot of doors anda lot of opportunity.
Yes, and I really do look at itas the what's the expression?
Kind of the turning point.
My life would look entirelydifferent today.
Yes, If I hadn't gone there alot of stress, a lot of
sleeveless nights, a lot of hardwork and all of those things
(09:30):
and I definitely definitely feltlike a fish out of water.
I transferred in.
I came with a whole host ofsocial like high school is hard
enough, you know, and I'm kindof the girl from like the rural
suburb that's like wearing neonpink coats and bedazzled jeans
and all these city kids are likewhat are you doing?
Like who are you?
And I'm getting off topic.
(09:50):
But it definitely came with ahost of challenges but I think I
was better off for it, sure,sure, truly opened up a lot of
doors, yeah, yeah.
And that's what I would sayabout like adventure at all is.
I think there's an expression,but kind of the idea is.
I think that challengingyourself the expression of the
high school is like getcomfortable with being
(10:10):
uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
And I think it's really uncomfortable to do new
things, to experience change ofany kind, if that's a new job or
a new relationship or a newqueen.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
That's how you grow yeah, but like.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Part of being adventurous is, I think, trying
to figure out how to getcomfortable with being
uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
But after you do it for a while, you like start to
need the discomfort, thediscomfort to you get bored.
You get bored and I think thatthat's I just moved jobs.
That's why I moved jobs, Like Iwould almost say that my
biggest fear is being bored andlike stopping that personal
growth.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So then USC, and then from USC, you had obtained your
degree Yep and you were infinance.
Yeah, and I know she was.
I remember, during the pandemic, you being in California and
you were really isolated whereyou were at, because you were
living on your own and she wason her computer like all flip
and day long.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I think, yeah, I remember calling you a couple
times, but I think that was acommon experience for a lot of
People, regardless of age.
Yeah, I'll speak for the 20somethings that had just
graduated and we're trying toadjust to life outside of
university and meet new people.
Add to that a pandemic whereyou're locked inside and not
supposed to talk to other people, and I was living in a one
(11:24):
bedroom apartment at my computer, 24 seven, yeah, and sounds
awful.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
It was so unnatural for everybody.
But yeah, it was a very.
I think a lot of people canrelate to the fact that the
pandemic was just like a veryisolated and I was in a one
bedroom, so that was largely thereason I moved home.
You could do the same thing athome, yeah, and you locked up
and your mom would cook for you.
Mom, would cook for me and yeah,just having more people yeah,
(11:51):
and moving home with yourparents isn't the most like
glorious move, you'll ever make,but I don't know we.
I think those decisions duringthat time were different just
like everything was, and I think, it brought families closer
together.
Yeah, yeah, I knew too.
I almost killed them a coupletimes.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
You guys were so isolated I mean, I basically
didn't see Mark for almost ayear.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
It took a very seriously, very seriously, very
seriously.
We almost killed each other acouple times but better for it,
made it out alive, yeah.
So you transitioned to New Yorkand I moved to New York in
September of 21.
Kind of as things were openingback up, so I moved, for work
was the convenient, I guess,logistical aspect of it.
(12:36):
But I kind of felt like, as aside effect of all that
isolation, people my agent in mynetwork kind of took the exact.
We're then trying to sort offight or make up for lost time
and I feel like a lot of peopleI knew were going to New York
and they were all moving thereand work gave me a really easy,
easy way to do that and therewas a lot of career opportunity
and I love it, even even if notthe pandemic, I think it's a
(12:58):
really fun place to exist inyour 20s.
I had a lot of friends movingthere and and yeah, and kind of
kind of the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, yeah.
So do you think that you'llstay?
I know that we're kind ofgetting ahead of ourselves.
But Manhattan we talked aboutbeing like really cool for your
20s, yeah, and it's anincredibly fast paced
environment.
So I mean, just having beenthere for work, I was exhausted
because it's and you didn't seea lot of people that were more
(13:27):
our age really, I mean, exceptthey probably commuted into the
city the ones I remember.
Or you would see people thatwould walk with their shopping
carts, you know, because theyprobably lived in one of the
high rises and went to themarket to get their vegetables
or whatever.
There's no grocery stores.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
They're grocery stores.
They're a different concept ofa grocery store than I think
your bigger bigger one.
My roommates and I.
We have a push cart.
People make fun of them all thetime.
They were ridiculous, butthey're like little push carts
that you cart all around.
We put flames on the outside ofit.
We call it lightning McQueen,so it's funny.
It is a very vibrant place.
(14:03):
I've kind of said it's great foryour 20-somethings right,
you're meeting new people andyou're darting from birthday
party to dinner party to this tothat.
You're going to this interviewand that interview and I think
there's a lot of serendipitythat happens who you meet in the
elevator or whatever.
Yeah, a lot of serendipity.
It's also exhausting, for sure.
What I was saying earlier is Ithink it's perfect for that
(14:26):
mid-20s part of life whereyou're kind of young enough that
that's exciting and fun.
It also kind of keeps you.
I think some people love it whenthey're in their 30s because it
keeps you in your mid-20s.
Yeah, but I think it kind ofkeeps you there, and what I mean
by that is still everythingthey say about it kind of on the
more I don't want to saynegative side I love it.
(14:46):
But it's true, it's expensive,it's fast paced.
You got to keep up, you got toreally have a lot of drive and
energy to sort of do it all thetime.
And after you've been doing itfor a number of years I can see
how people are.
Like you know, I just want abig house.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I just want to go to the Burbs.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, I just want to walk out of my front door and
not have 80,000 people walkingon my street, but at the same
time, it's one of the thingsthat I've said that I love about
it is you can take the samecommute to work every day and
every day it's a differentcommute, like just the different
things you see if it's somebodyin a costume or there's some
(15:24):
event going on or whatever it is.
This week Times Square, thepipes burst and the Times Square
subway station flooded.
Oh geez.
And so just.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
New Yorkers kind of doing their thing.
You're about 30 minutes fromyour work, about 30 minutes from
work, and you take the train.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I do.
I take subway Yep, the subwayand I take.
So I walk 10 minutes and then Itake three trains.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Wow, and you're in Manhattan, yeah.
And your job is in Manhattan.
I'm a mile and a half away.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
What?
Yeah?
Okay, I'll say I take twotrains.
One of them I get on the localand I transfer to the express.
So it's still the red line, butI just like to get on the quick
train.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
And in my mind I'm like it would be quicker to walk
.
Obviously you're not going todo that in the wintertime, but
is it quicker to walk because ofthe number of people that are
on the sidewalk I always see inmovies and stuff you know all
the people and you can't hardlyget through.
Yeah, is that what it's like?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
It kind of depends on the walk.
If you're a walk.
Nobody that lives there wantsto walk through Times Square.
Gross Like really Too manytourists.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
If you are a tourist and you're visiting New York, go
to Times Square.
It's worth seeing, but if youlive there, you still have
things you have to do.
Just like Pike's Market,exactly and so there are so many
things that are right next toyou that are worth seeing that
make New York so exciting, butespecially if you're like have
this New York corporate job andyou're trying to get done,
you're trying to get done.
You're kind of like, okay, I getit, like cool, like Bella Hadid
(16:52):
, like I don't care, like getout of my way, so we were
telling the story earlier today.
My boyfriend works on 96thStreet, which is the street that
the president takes when hecomes into town.
And so everybody has stopped tobe like the president is coming
.
The president is coming andeverybody that he works with is
like throwing elbows.
It's like I get it, like getout of my way.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Like I gotta get to work, like come on.
So it's kind of funny.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
The reason you love New York is also kind of the
reason that you get the thingsthat can be challenging.
Yeah, I don't want to sayburnout of New York, but it's
funny you look at your laugh, solet's talk about your living
situation.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yes, people are going to get blown away by this this
is very famously.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
New York is famous for not being a very expensive
place to live, Right?
So I'll just talk about myliving situation because I think
it's fairly representative.
I have two roommates and welive in an apartment in the West
Village, which is definitely akind of happening spot.
We're definitely paying forlocation.
I would say we pay $7,000 amonth, Not each of us.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That is the whole apartment to be clear Between
three of you 500 square feet.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
It's like 500 square feet plus or minus I don't know
the exact square footage, butit's about 500 square feet.
It's legally a one bedroom.
But I will clarify we each dohave our own room.
You need legally to beconsidered a bedroom, you need
to have a window and you need tohave I believe you also need to
have four walls.
That's the criteria we'reworking with.
One bedroom doesn't have awindow.
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One bedroom is this is kind ofa New York concept but is a flex
room, so has three walls andthen you can either construct
sort of a makeshift fourth wallor, in our case, it has sliding
doors, but then that is thewindow in the flex room is also
the window to the common area,so need to have the doors open
to get the light.
And then my room I upgraded tothe master this year is the
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smallest room, but I do haveboth a window and a door.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Do you have a closet?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I do.
I'm very lucky I have a bigcloset for New York.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
A big closet for New York, so who knows what size
that is.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
It's a normal size closet.
Okay, truly, but I count myblessings, yeah, and so there's
three of us that share and Iguess the other thing so we're
quote unquote three bedrooms,one bathroom and then a washer
dryer is the other big.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
That's amazing yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Is the other big luxury for our apartment.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So a lot of people so going okay, this is real basic
stuff, but you have a, you havea washer dryer, which is kind of
uncommon, yeah.
And so people either go to alaundromat or they have their
laundry done for them.
Yeah, you're saying pack andfold.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
So what's common?
Instead of going to alaundromat where you sit and you
wash it yourself, you do thequarters and the whole thing.
You drop it off at a facility,or I think there are some that
come and pick it up for you andthey wash your clothes and then
they fold your clothes, which isawesome because then you don't
have to do laundry.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I'd totally be doing that.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I know.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, not if I, although if I was having to pay,
you know, like 20, whatever,$1,000 a month, I might not.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
It's, I want to say it's like reasonable, maybe like
60 bucks a month kind of athing.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I could be.
I don't.
I mean, I have a washer dryerin you.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So she doesn't have to worry about it.
So I don't have to worry aboutit.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
But I want to say that is so if your least
favorite chore is laundry,honestly it's kind of the way to
go, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
So it's pretty typical, though, like what you
just explained to us.
You said is pretty average,like that amount of rent.
I know you're paying forlocation, but for the size and
kind of yeah there's, I wouldsay, location.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah, location is probably driving the hire and
after the pandemic, rent hasfluctuated quite a bit.
There was a period of time wheneverybody kind of right when I
moved was coming back to thecity where it rents were at all
time highs.
And then they kind of chilledout a little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
so it ebbs and flows, but I would imagine you don't
have a car.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I would I mean yeah, where would you put it?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
That's why I'm just sitting here like what are gas
prices?
And then I was thinking whocares Like who has a car in New
York?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
And that's kind of the best.
Thing.
It was getting rid of the car Imissed, going for a joy ride
that whole.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Thing.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
But it's great to not have to worry about and also
financially to not have to worryabout.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It's great and you wouldn't need it.
You don't need it.
You really don't need it.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So I guess there's that trade-in a little bit of it
, Like you don't have thatexpense.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Right yeah, so your automobile budget becomes your
dinner budget.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, her going out budget.
Her going out budget, yeah, doyou?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
eat much at home, or is it no?
So that's kind of a thing too.
I'm notoriously terrible cookWell, and would you say that's
pretty typical, for yeah,there's a lot of restaurants
there.
For people your age in New York, a lot of restaurants.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Kitchen space is hard , produce goes bad really fast
Like we talk about that all thetime Like it's hard to keep
produce for more than a coupledays.
Yeah, you're working late, soby the time you get off work
extra late, it's hard to like gohome and cook and like get the
time, and I know that's hardanywhere.
But yeah, I'd say it's prettytypical on average.
I would say in New York I wouldimagine people go out far less
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than in other cities.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, or go out far more.
Go out far more.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Just the accessibility.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So tell us about the nightlife.
The nightlife is very good.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
There's kind of something for anybody.
One of my roommates is moreintroverted and definitely
benefits more from the sort oftheater, museum, bookstore,
coffee shop scene Kind of more.
I guess I'd call it likestructured activities, the arts
that scene.
But then my other roommatedefinitely benefits more from
the bars and the not so muchclubs.
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We don't really have that muchenergy anymore, yeah, but more
so.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Did she just say they don't have the agenda Right, or
she's 27.
Oh my.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
God Clubs.
That was like that wasshort-lived.
Yeah, that was a 22 to 24 sortof endeavor.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, but they're there if you're into those.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Have you been to?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
some.
I mean, have you been to some?
I've been to some.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
There is some Just for the experience, totally, but
a lot of the like if it's DJsor it starts so late, like it'll
start at like midnight or 2 amor something like that, and I'm
like deep in REM sleep by 2 amkind of no matter what I've done
, yeah.
That's maybe me personally, butit's there if you want it.
But I think just theaccessibility this kind of gets
to the subways and everything,just the accessibility of bar I
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don't want to say bar hopping,because you don't always- have
to bar hop.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
But there's Now we want to be out and about in New
York City like all night, buttruly from what you're saying,
it is the city that never sleeps.
It is.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
And it's because of that, I think it's also safe.
I know that's a big concernalso with people anywhere.
I mean because you have peoplemilling about all the time.
It is safe, you feel like thereare people around you.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
It's probably a false sense of security too.
I don't really know.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Well, as long as you're aware, that's kind of
what is most important.
I would say and there's-, whatabout fashion?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
It's the best part.
It's the best part.
And the closets are not bigenough.
But you have different seasonsis the best thing, and so we're
at.
Fall fashion is upon us and sothey're breaking out the long
coats the long jackets and theboots and the sweaters and the
denim and the corduroy and allof that.
So that's very fun.
And then, because you havetruly like four seasons, you
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kind of have a different, alittle bit of a different
wardrobe for every season.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I just Not Birkenstocks and socks.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
No, I'm Birkenstocks and Patagonia.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, they don't have that there no no.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Patagonia.
Yeah, and she's got herCanadian geese, canadian goose
jacket, canada goose.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
American swan is what my dad says or something like
that.
But the fashion is kind of thebest Because it's fun you know,
fun to dress up.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I don't know.
I love that aspect of it.
I just joined Rent the Runwayso that I can what's that you
don't know Rent the Runway?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Oh yeah, I've heard of that.
So you have to have a lot ofevents and things to go to like.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Oh yeah, what is it you?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
don't so it's basically a you pay a
subscription and you can pickdifferent plans.
I picked like the 10 item amonth plan and you rent it.
They close, yes, so there's thebest ways to sort of curate
your box, but you basically paya fee.
I think the one that I paid forwas like $100 a month.
It was on sale or something.
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You get 10 items that you cantry out and they make the
shipping and then the sendingback really easy.
They'll come to your door.
I haven't done it yet.
I signed up on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
So you're buying them , no, you're renting them.
Oh, you're renting them.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
But then also you can buy it for way discounts, okay,
and so for me, who was kind ofdoing the same thing anyway, to
go shopping was just buying abunch of stuff, seeing what fits
and then sending it back.
It's an easy way of doing thattoo.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
And then you get things that are kind of unique
or statement pieces.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Because everybody in New York is trying something new
with fashion and is pretty boldand unapologetic about it, so
it's fun.
I think about that a lot Likeif I were to move back, like I
would miss, I wouldn't get towear all my nice or not
necessarily nice, but my likefun out there pieces Unique.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
She would have to wear them to Marysville
Strawberry Festival or something.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Casino.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
The casino in my house.
The casino, yeah, yeah, oh mygosh.
So you did end up seeking out aplace I know that was Seattle
based right To watch some games.
So she's a big sports fan.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I do Like a sports bar there that is Seattle based.
Yeah, oh cool yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
So I'm a big, and I'm in particular, a big baseball
fan.
I just summer baseball.
There's something about summerbaseball that I just sticks with
me and the Seattle Marinerswere good for the first time
this year and since 2001,.
I think the last time they madethe playoffs, and so not a lot
of my girlfriends like to watchsports and I don't get, didn't
get it on the local channel, sothey have like I think it's
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normally a Seahawks bar Okay,but because the Mariners were
good this year, they wereplaying like the Mariners game.
So I, yeah, went to a Seattlebar by myself.
My friend calls me a walkingred flag because I went to the
bar by myself.
You were at least wearing ajersey, I was, everybody in the
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bar was wearing the jersey, andso one of the things I'll take a
quick pause in the story that Ilove about New York is that
it's a city of transplants andbecause of that, everybody's
very energized to meet newpeople.
And especially people fromSeattle that already have so
much hometown pride.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
You get them across the country and if you find
somebody else that's fromSeattle, it's like instant
friendship.
You're like, oh like, do youknow Thiny Ridge, or did?
Where did you go to school?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Right, we start talking about the geography.
Yeah, yeah, just like the issuch a small city kind of?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, it really is that it's sort of instant
friends, and so I knew, walkinginto this Seattle bar, I was
intentionally going knowing thatone Seattle we'd already have
something in common and yeah,that if we're watching the
Mariners we haven't been good ina really long time.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
So you're already sort of bonded through that.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
So, anyway, and then the fun detail that I'm sure
you're gunning for here is thatI actually met my boyfriend
there.
He did the same thing.
He went to the bar, notnecessarily trying to meet
people, just wanted to watch thegame.
Is from Seattle, why not?
Sort of a thing.
We both went to the bar byourselves and we have different
versions of this story.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
He says it's always the case, always the case.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Like she saw me from across the room, thought I was
so cute and came up to me andhad to talk to me and I'm like
no, no, it was the only openseat at the bar and I, like am
clearly very talkative.
So I looked over and was like,oh, are you from Seattle?
And the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, but she's like the golden unicorn.
The woman wearing a jerseygoing to a sports bar by herself
to watch the playoffs.
I mean every guy would belining up had they known she was
there.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
No.
And now he's like wait, that'sa great way to pick up gap, Like
it's a great way to pick upguys, Like all girls should do
that.
And I'm like that's not why Iwas going to the bar to be clear
, like I just wanted to watchthe game.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
But, oh my gosh, yeah , he's got your number.
Yeah, he's got your number,yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Yeah, he does.
So that is the fun story.
But yeah, kind of a sort of aNew York mentality, I guess the
whole city of transplants thing,by virtue of that people being
very open to other people, and Ithink New York kind of attracts
an adventurous person.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Somebody that's willing to kind of say hi to the
person next to them, like isn'tnecessarily afraid to talk to a
stranger, kind of a thing.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So in the Seattle, so on the flip side of that, the
Seattle area, you had mentionedsomething, when we were kind of
preparing, about the Seattlefreeze.
Do you think that really istrue?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
So I haven't lived in Seattle as an adult, yeah, so I
haven't tried to like make newfriends in Seattle.
So I might not be the bestsource, but from what I've heard
from my friends that have movedhere, they say it's absolutely
a thing.
And what he'll say, becausehe's from Seattle, is people
that grow up here and then theyhave friends here.
They like don't need newfriends, they're comfortable in
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their friend groups.
And there's kind of thismentality where it's like, oh,
it would be awkward if I went upand talked to them.
Like they don't want to talk tome or hey, how are you Nice to
see you, like we should get acoffee.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
But that would be weird here.
But yeah, that's what you'resaying.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
No well, or there's, they'll say it, but there's no
intention to actually do it.
People have other things goingon.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
That's what we talked about.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, they're nice up front and they say it, and yeah
, we should.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Well, it's a passive aggressive thing.
Yeah, that's notorious.
We've heard it many times fromdifferent people.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I don't know.
I hope that's not a thing and Ihave a Seattle community to
come back to when I come back.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
But I definitely felt that way about LA People kind
of grow up there and kind ofhave their high west coast thing
Maybe.
Or I feel like San Francisco.
I haven't lived in DC, but I'velived in San Francisco and
people in San Francisco alsocity of transplants very much
open to meeting other people andkind of that same energy.
Say, uber pool was a huge thingwhen I was there in 2018.
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And I made a couple of friendsin the backseat sharing Ubers.
It was like oh, hey, you'regreat, like let's go get a drink
at a bar and we'd go get adrink at a bar versus, I think,
the cities where people tend togrow up there and then stay
there, there's less incentive tomake new friends.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
So the city of transplants is the key.
Well, we have a city oftransplants.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
here too, Increasingly more.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
But it's all tech, most of it's tech.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
But look at how compact New York is.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, so you have no choice but to maybe try and talk
to so many.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
True, that's really true.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, You're like so culturally super different.
Like the way people communicateis very different.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
That's what I've found is just there's a certain
like directness about people.
You know they'll tell you likeif you're, if it's the coffee
thing or if it's.
I.
Just I kind of think of themove out of the way, like hey,
I'm walking here, like thatexample, like people will be
like I like, I'd be, like, sayplease or like please move.
But they'll also help you, ifyou like, spill your groceries
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from the ground and pick it up.
So it's just more.
It's not mean, it's just directDirect.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I think you have that Ludacris song for some reason
Move.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Get out the way, get out the way, get out the way
she's talking Get out the way.
Beech Get out the way.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
She had to throw that part in there.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Well, so what do you?
You know, when you have theability to kind of compare two
different cultures really EastCoast culture, west Coast
culture and so we're going tohave people that are listening
from the East Coast and they'regoing to be like, wow, west
Coast is so much different.
They probably already knew that, but what do you feel are
things that you have broughtwith you to the East Coast from
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here?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
That's a good question.
I was just going to say that'sa good question, Jules.
That's a really good question.
Hey, thanks guys.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I don't know.
I think that the West Coast letme think about that is very
laid back.
I don't necessarily know if Iwant to say there's like a
certain like groundedness orlike granoliness.
It's less earthiness, like it'sless.
When I think about even, likebeing in high school, like I
feel like the East Coast kidsare always like very go, go, go.
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They're from the minute theyshow up, like when they're
little kids they're worriedabout where am I going to
college?
Or at least maybe that's.
I don't know, I'm in finance,maybe that's the circles I run
in, but it's a very achievementoriented, very corporate, very
buttoned up, very polished, verystiff as a good word, yeah.
Versus.
I feel like the West Coast is alittle bit more laid back.
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Layed back, come as you are,hang out when your Birkenstocks.
Yeah, like West Coast.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, Michelle's throwing up her W her.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
W signs here yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yeah, a little bit more.
It's less like I'm trying touse this as more of an analogy
than exactly this specificexample, but it's a lot less
concerned with like where didyou go to college and more sort
of worried about can you hangout.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, sort of.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Like do you pass the airport test Right, that kind of
a thing, and so maybe I bring alittle bit of laid backness.
I feel like people can't insome ways, kind of can't, get a.
If they were to guess where I'mfrom, they're like I think I'm
an East Coast, a born EastCoaster that grew up on the West
.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Coast.
Okay, if that makes sense.
So you're always moving prettyfast yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
I got scolded today because we were trying to walk.
What's it like?
Not Saunders?
Like walk leisurely, stroll,stroll.
I was trying to stroll and theywere like you stroll really
quickly.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I do that too.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
She's got a purpose, man.
She's going somewhere with apurpose.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I got.
Look, I can stop and smell theroses, but I'm smelling them
quick yeah it's okay.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
So if you've got, let's just say we've got people
that are right around your age,or 25 to 35, say years old, and
they're considering having somekind of an adventure like this
are there different things thatyou can give them as examples?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
I think adventure looks different for every single
person.
That can look.
For some people that can looklike dyeing your hair.
For some people, that can looklike starting a podcast, for
some people that can look likemoving across the country or
travel or what have you sort of.
But I think that the biggestthing for me when I'm picking a
new adventure is it's not reallylike a conscious decision, it's
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sort of like trust your gut,sort of.
I would say that moving to NewYork sort of started off as a
thought and one that I was likeoriginally I don't want to say
opposed to but I was kind oflike no, no, no, that's not,
that's probably not for me.
But then, slowly but surely,the universe sort of started
giving me, putting it sort of inmy path, and I just sort of
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started warming up to the ideaand warming up to the idea, and
then it was kind of like wait, Ithink I actually do want that.
And then sort of the pieces,all of the puzzle pieces, sort
of fell into place.
I would say the same is truefor any adventure.
If you've always wanted totravel to a certain place but
you thought like maybe it wasn'tattainable, just start with
like a little savings goal, likebaby steps, right, you don't
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have to like.
Let's say you want to like goto I don't know, travel to
foreign country, africa,somewhere Just, and it seems
super financially like notattainable.
Just save, try to save $500.
And then your $500 towardwhatever your travel goal is and
you just, slowly but surely,sort of work your way there.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I don't know if that answered the question.
Yeah, it does.
I just I know you're kind of anadventurous spirit, so the
whole idea of moving to New Yorkit's like.
I mean, I know a lot of peopleyour age and you're the only one
I know that would actuallyconsider doing it.
But I think that's wonderfulyou know but it's also kind of
takes on the same idea when itcomes to your travel because
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you've done some other kind ofcrazy things she just kind of
goes.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I was gonna say she said when she was answering your
last question she said you knowwhen you're picking your
adventure?
I was like what else have youdone?
What other adventurous thingshave you done?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I've had quite a travel year, I would say.
I had a significant amount ofpaytime off and I honestly had a
lot of decision paralysisbecause I had a month of PTO and
it was like you kind of feellike the world is your oyster
and it's sort of like you can doanything with it.
What do you do?
I tend to fall into the categoryof I put way too much pressure
on that decision but, I, waslike, let's do something that I
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could kind of never do again,and so I decided to go to
Antarctica.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, and then the polar plunge I saw.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Yeah, oh wow, from the time I booked the trip to
the time I got on the plane wasnine days.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Yeah, and what's great about that, if anybody's
interested in going toAntarctica is you get last
minute deals where they'rebasically selling rooms at cost.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Really.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Yeah, and so I got a good deal that way, and that is
an adventure that isn't superapplicable to everybody, because
I had paid time off that Icould take at a ridiculous kind
of amount of paytime off.
I was in the financialsituation where I could and I
didn't have anything tying medown Like I don't have pets.
I don't have pets, I don't havekids, I don't have kind of
anybody that would worry aboutit that way, and so I did that
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earlier this year, and so thatwas great.
That was in November, and thenI had more PTO, it doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
was.
I want her job.
Wait, how was the polar plunge?
Yeah, how was the polar plunge?
Really Before you tell us aboutthe next, really cold.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Uh-huh.
They applicable to anyadventure you take.
You just kind of have to takethe plunge.
Yeah, you just kind of have to.
Don't think, just do Make sureyou're safe.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
But, and they strap you up.
So you are, you don't.
You're not in warm gear, Like Iwent in a bathing suit.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Some people did it naked, but there were.
There were icebergs around.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
There were icebergs around.
Yeah, it was beautiful Likeabsolutely beautiful, but you're
not.
You're in like a regularbathing suit.
A couple of my friends did itnaked, like you're Really, yeah,
like you're not in any kind ofspecial gear, and they stick a
harness to you because it's socold that, like that's dangerous
jumping into the water.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
And then jumping into shock and pass out.
So they stick a harness aroundyou and they hook you in so that
they can pull you up, in caseyou do.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
How long do they?
You jump in and get out.
Oh, it's gonna say yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
You jump in and get out and they have a shot of
tequila waiting for you at theend.
So To warm you up, to warm youup, and then we.
I was lucky and there was ajacuzzi on the top deck.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Oh, wow so I literally sprinted up.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
But some people the line I was lucky in, like almost
everybody on my boat I don'tremember there was like 200
people on my boat, did it almost.
So there was like a long line.
So if you had gotten to theback of the line you were in
line and then you were jumpingin.
I was like the third person tojump, I was like get me in, get
me out.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, that's what I would want to do.
Yeah, just like yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
But I mean it's, would I do it again?
I recommend it to anybody.
Good, but I kind of checked itoff the bucket list.
Right, I was gonna say once Ihate being cold so I don't know,
I'm good, but it's again to anyadventure you kind of just have
to close your eyes count tothree, do it.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Okay, what was the next?
Speaker 4 (39:23):
adventure.
Also on the theme of travel,what I originally thought I was
gonna do on my PTO was I'vealways wanted to go safari in
Africa.
You almost came with me, Ialmost.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
oh, I wanted to go with her, so bad.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
And I wish I could have made it work.
I was moving jobs, so I had todo it while I was at the job
where I had all the PTO.
Yeah, but I'd always wanted togo safari in Africa and so also
booked pretty last minute.
But yeah, I went.
That was in May or June.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
She didn't want to go on that one on her own.
She went to Antarctica on herown.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
But you ended up having a friend that went with
you to Africa, right.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Africa.
I was ready to go by myself Iassumed that I was going to and
I called my friend, who I hadn'ttalked to in probably six
months, and I was just checkingin just like, hey, like how are
you doing, like catching up, andshe goes, I'm okay, like I just
got laid off and I was like, ohmy gosh, I'm so sorry to hear
that, but it sounds like youhave a lot of free time.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Do you want to come to Africa?
Like knowing she's from NewZealand, she's totally an animal
person, Like I was sort of justthrowing it out, taking a shot
in the dark but, knowing thatlike she'd totally be interested
if she could make it work, andshe was like, yeah, one of those
things that we're probablymeant to be.
And her partner it's not a tripthat ever would have interested
her.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
So I think.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
To her too, it was kind of like a wait.
This is kind of an opportunity,that why not?
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
There's so many things that you could do that
you can talk yourself out of soeasily.
It's just easier to stay athome, tucked under a blanket
watching.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, michelle, have you ever heard that before?
Really?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, I don't know it's easier to stay at home.
Oh yeah, we were just talkingabout that the other time.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
And I like staying tucked at home.
Don't get me wrong.
Just in between, you know forthe two ways International trips
.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
So I had heard from someone, probably one of your
parents, that you were.
Your goal was to hit everycontinent before you turned 30.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Yeah, well, I'm five, I only have two left.
Yeah, so it was not a goal thatI set out for originally, but
I've had kind of a ridiculousyear.
That again like I in no wayplanned.
If you had told me 12 monthsago I was going to both Africa
and Antarctica, I would havebeen like you're insane, like
there's no way, that's going tohappen, but it just kind of has
happened that way.
Yeah and I, you have to stop inSouth Africa to get to
(41:34):
Antarctica, and I've been sortof before, briefly so, across
those two off, and so now all Ihave to hit is Australia and
Asia.
Oh, so if you're looking totravel in 2024, I need a travel
buddy, or 25 or 20, I got acouple of years till I'm 30, but
yeah.
And that's kind of arbitrary.
(41:54):
If I hit it by the time I'm 31,I won't shed a tear.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Right, yeah, oh, you'll do it yeah.
You'll totally do it by thetime you're 30.
I know why not.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
You know, it's fun?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I don't know, so do you?
Would you recommend someonetaking this adventure?
Yeah, they are around your ageand just trying to figure out
life.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Yeah, not if you don't have a desire to.
Some people don't, and I can'texactly relate, just because
that's my desire, for adventurehas always kind of been such an
innate thing, right.
So if you're the kind of personthat's truly content my brother
is this way you're trulycontent to just be and to do the
same things that you do all thetime.
And he just wants to commit toone thing and get good at that
(42:36):
one thing.
Then power to you.
Like if you are fulfilled withthat, then seriously like that's
awesome and that's really cooland that's great.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Do it Exactly.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
But if you're the kind of person that has been,
like I really want to, but Ican't afford it, or but I can't
get the PTO, or but I, whatabout my dog?
Or but like whatever, like ifyou have butts, if you have, if
you want to do it, but you keepfinding reasons not to.
Yeah, talking yourself out ofit.
Then I just kind of think,figure it out.
That maybe that's harsh, but Idon't know.
(43:06):
Life's too short you know, I.
Maybe it's a fear of havingregrets.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
It might be harsh, but you're a New Yorker now.
Yeah, but I'm really direct, soshe's very direct now.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
I'm a big believer in like do the things that scare
you right, Because it's wherepersonal growth comes from and
what's the worst that can happen?
You?
Speaker 3 (43:22):
hate it.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Yeah and you leave.
You've had, you had a learningexperience, exactly.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
And you don't do it again.
Yeah, but you wouldn't knowunless you went Exactly.
That's what.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
I love.
I love that adventurous spirit.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
That's yeah we always have kind of wondered if you
were my daughter.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
No, it's.
It's kind of crazy.
We're just like can we switch?
I think we look a little bitmore like that.
I look like my mom and I thinkwe have a more similar
personality traits.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
That's how it's supposed to be, though.
So then you have there's alwaysthat one auntie.
You've got a niece, I know.
That's it, but that's what I'msaying.
I know she's your only auntie.
I mean on that side of thefamily?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, only one that she talks to, but there's always
that one that you're reallyclose to.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
I feel like Seens like yeah, it's true, and I
think especially like I don'tknow, I feel like to the women
in your life.
The older I get, the more Ijust feel like it's less of that
parental relationship and morejust.
You see eye to eye hopefullymaybe not everybody, but eye to
eye on things and just becomefriends.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Friends.
Yeah, that's exactly what endsup happening.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
And then till they ask you for money.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Oh, just kidding.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Can you bed, mommy?
That's.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Jared.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'll pay you back on payday Okay whatever Some things
haven't changed.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
No and some things never will no.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Good old family dynamics, that's right.
Well, thank you so much.
Thank you for having me.
She's actually on a timerestriction here, because she
actually is jumping on a planehere in just a couple hours and
flying back to New York City Onthe red eye.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah, we'll be on the red and then she'll probably go
to work tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yeah, still by my apartment for a cold shower and
head into work, head into work.
So thank you so much for likemaking this a stop.
We appreciate you taking thetime.
Thank you for having meLiterally on your way out of the
city, and it was so fun.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Thank you for having me.
Yes, I'm so excited to beinvited on.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
We're going to definitely have to do it again.
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
And everybody check us out on all our socials.
You know we're on Facebook,tiktok and Instagram, so you can
find us there.
Share us with your friends ifyou like us, and we'd appreciate
that.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And like us if you share us.
Yeah, oh, yeah, oh, oh, oh, Iguess that too.
I guess we're sharing Michelle,now All right On that note.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
We'll just say till next time.
All right, have a good oneeverybody.
All right, bye, Bye.
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