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December 29, 2023 26 mins

With the threshold of 2024 beckoning, we pour our hearts into a conversation about personal evolution—shedding the weight of toxic ties and stepping into growth with determination. Our exchange reveals the vibrant words we've chosen to guide us through the new year, with "exuberance" and "today" lighting our paths like beacons of intent. Through laughter and earnestness, we probe the depths of self-acceptance, the art of saying no, and wrap up with a playful game that injects a dose of levity into our shared journey towards a year brimming with positivity. Join us in this light hearted episode as we lace up our boots for a trek into a year of authenticity, connection, and embracing the present moment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to spilling the therapy with
therapist Kathy Dan Moore andgreat coach Jess Laof.
Hey, kathy Dan.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey, jess, is this our last episode of the year?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
No, this is the last episode that will drop for the
year, I think, right.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Maybe no, we might have one more.
No, this is it.
This is it right.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
This is the last one that'll drop before.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Okay, and we missed a little bit, which is, I guess
what we're doing in the episode,we're doing today.
Yeah, ding dong, kathy, danwake up, I feel like December.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Just, I've been in a blur for the whole December, so
I just don't even know what dayit is, what day of the week it
is, without a comment, I know.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I know, and I did a whole lot of like prepping and
wrapping gifts.
It's like I did half of it,though, and then somehow I
tricked myself to think that Iwas like really far ahead, and
now I'm not really far aheadbecause the other half is not
done.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
So we've already done Christmas, so that's it.
Also, it's like I don't knowwhat day it is, because I've
already just day of everybody.
They're Christmas and Iactually felt to take all of my
Christmas down, really, yeah, Ithink.
So I'm just not feeling it thisyear, so I think you guys have
already celebrated.
Yeah, so my brother has mynephew until the 23rd, so my

(01:20):
sister was in town Sunday, so wejust went ahead and did
Christmas so that we could seehim and still have time to play
with all the things and all thattogether.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, yeah, this is the first year we're not going
to try to split the actualChristmas day because, you know,
my kid's dad is Jewish, so he Ihave always had Christmas the
whole time with my kids.
But then my four bigger kidstheir mom obviously is not, and

(01:51):
well, not obviously, but she'snot and then two of my big kids
are getting married, so theyhave more family with their
fiance that you know they needto see as well.
So this is the first year we'recelebrating with all of the
kids on Christmas Eve and I'mdoing a meal, then we're going

(02:13):
to have our friends Kelly andCarlin, and then my mom, of
course, and her husband Gary.
So we're and I was like I don'tknow, do we put a steak in the
ground of?
Like we'll just always doChristmas Eve to make it easy
for the kids.
You know what I mean so theydon't have to try to divide
Christmas day.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, I feel like that's a good idea If it's, if
it's something that they couldall plan out that way right.
Less stress, you get to haveall of them together.
And then Christmas day, youliterally do not have to do it.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, like all have my two, and then I think we'll
probably do like breakfast orsomething with my mom and Gary.
And then I think, like we didon Thanksgiving Day, because we
did our Thanksgiving meal earlywe're going to go see a movie
that night.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
So when you probably would have like the whole movie
theater, I know, right OnChristmas Day, yeah, or all the
Jewish people yeah, yeah, so,yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
So I'm kind of looking forward to that.
My birthday is tomorrow, so Iknow, happy early birthday.
Thank you.
Doug said what do you want todo for your birthday?
And I was like he goes whateverit is that you want to do,
we'll do it and I won't besarcastic about it.
And I was like, oh my God,that's a big death, doug, thank

(03:30):
you.
Thank you so much.
So I think we're going to go tothe Tampa Museum of Art they
have an impressionism exhibit Iwant to see and then maybe to
out to lunch and then we'regoing to go take my two to a
steakhouse and then we'll have,I think, all of them for dessert
after.
So to be good.
It's always a challenge to tryto get people together.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
It is especially when they're older and they have
their own little families nowthat they're creating.
And it's tough.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's a great gift, Doug, because he's so much like.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Jason, that, that's what he would say what are your
New Year's plans?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
My New Year's plans are to be at my house.
I'm a great em all.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Okay, me too.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I can't, I can't say it past like 8 30.
I wouldn't have been at 7 30last night, guys.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
I would have gone to bed earlier last night, but I
had book club tonight and Ihadn't finished the book.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So you know, I don't want to bethat girl right like up reading
.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Didn't you create the book club to?
I did I did.
Speaking of New Year's, thisepisode today it's all about
2024, ringing in the new year.
Old shit behind that we don'twant to take with us.
So, yes, so, getting into that,like I said, I'm gonna be

(04:55):
spending my New Year's with myhusband.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
At my house.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I'll try to stay up till midnight, but I don't
foresee that happening.
Yeah, so we'll probably, youknow, cook some a nice dinner
and just veg out.
Yeah, that sounds good Do youguys cook the same thing or no,
I don't do like that, I don't dolike the yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean, we play a piece all the time.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
So it's not like oh you know, it's just a new year's
, maybe I'll make some, but I'mnot like super stitious, I'm not
the super.
I know you don't like any kindof beans, Beans, peas,
vegetables.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
But I do not like beans, peas, like any lentils
yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
That's so funny.
What are y'all gonna do?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
So we have Ellie will be in town and her birthday is
on the 30th.
Doug's birthday is the 31st, Iknow.
So we have three Decemberbirthdays in our family, yeah.
So on Ellie's birthday sheinvited Lily and I to go with
her, her mama and her Mimi, soher mom's mom To go wedding

(06:05):
dress shopping.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Oh, I know that's gonna be so fun.
I am very, very excited, yeahdoes she kind of know what she
wants, or is it gonna be like Ithink?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
she had like a little bit of an idea.
Yeah, but I think she's prettyopen-minded.
She made a reservation at adress shop in town, so it'll be
just be fun to see her goingthrough the process and she's so
beautiful already.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I can only imagine what it's gonna be to see her
and this will be y'all's firstChild.
Like wedding dress shopping.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Like yes, wedding dress shopping.
Yeah, because the other one,zach, is getting married and we
didn't shop for wedding dresswith him.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
He's gonna wear a tux probably, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, but no, just really, if you wanted to wear
wedding dress, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I couldn't see him in one?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, no, he's a, he's a guy's guy, yeah.
So we're gonna do that.
And then I don't know whatwe're gonna do for Doug's
birthday.
I also am not, you know, like abig go-out, get crazy New
Year's person.
So we'll probably make dinnerand invite all the kids over,

(07:13):
have dinner at the house beforethey go out.
And then I did tell Lily Iwould watch the FSU game with
her the afternoon of the 30th,which I catch they're going to
be pummeled, but but supportyeah yeah, so to be good, I'm
looking for yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
That sounds like a really good New Year's week
weekend.
Yeah Well, let's talk about allthe shit we're gonna leave
behind.
There's a lot of things that Ican't even think of, all the
things that I want to leavebehind, but there's a lot, yeah,
toxic relationships.
Yeah, like toxic familyrelationships, friend

(07:53):
relationships that are notserving me.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, or even toxic relationships that you Continue
to worry about, but maybe you'dalready gotten rid of before
this year, but you're stillletting them sit in your
Consciousness.
Yeah, taking that free rent inyour mind.
Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonnalet that go, leaving that behind
.
Yeah, what else you even behind?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
us self doubt.
Okay, so you know, just likesometimes you just think that
you're not up to par, you know,and you feel like you should
have been so far ahead of whereyou are.
And yeah, I think that you're,you know, worthy of that.
So, just getting that out ofyour mind, your headspace, like

(08:36):
girl, you've got it going onyour hot shit and yes, you know
it's only up from here, so Ilike that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah.
I think I'm gonna try to leavebehind, like thinking about what
other people are thinking aboutme.
Yeah, worry Worrying about whatother people are thinking about
me.
That's yeah, that's like that'shard it is.
It takes a lot of work but ittakes up too much bandwidth and

(09:07):
it doesn't I feel like itdoesn't allow me or any of us to
just kind of live Authentically.
Yeah, I know everybody wants tolike vomit when you say live
authentically, but yeah, youknow be who we are without
worrying about how it's comingacross.
And I think I guess sometimesall tripped up in my head and
I'd like to free up that spaceas well.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm also like things that likedon't serve us, whether it's
relationships, um, even likehobbies that don't you know that
you thought you were gettinginto, and you're not like just
things that don't work for you,that don't make you happy, they
don't bring joy to your life.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Like that.
Was that Marie Konda Konda, thelady that like is this springy
joy shirt.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Does it spark joy?
Yeah, and if it, doesn't.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
I'm leaving that behind.
Yeah, I want to have a joyous2024.
So that's the one.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I like that.
Can you think of something youwant to leave behind that
doesn't bring you joy that youwere doing anyways?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Well, besides, like relationships, probably I was
trying to do more like exercises.
But not that I don't want toexercise, but the exercise I was
doing weren't for me.
I don't think.
So I think I want to reallyreevaluate my exercise routine

(10:37):
for 2024.
Cause I would try all thesedifferent things biking I'm
still trying to learn how toride my bike.
Well guys, I just knocked themicrophone over on that.
I never had a bike Like well Idid growing up but then someone
literally stole it like the weekafter Christmas, and so I just
never got another one, and soI'm trying to ride my bike.
I'm hoping that's going toserve me.

(10:57):
So far it's not, but I'm goingto give that one a little bit
more time.
But I'm not running anymore.
I feel like running just alittle bit too much for my back
and I'm going to stop trying tobe the person I was when I was
in high school.
Yeah, that's good, you know sothat doesn't serve me.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I think I'm going to try to like I was thinking about
this, cause, you know, I alwaysdo like things I want to do for
the next year, so 24 things for2024.
And I'm like, so I spendDecember kind of in thought
about that, and so some of whatI want to leave behind, too, is
operating out of fear ofscarcity, like a scarcity
mindset.
I have well, with your help,started to close my book a

(11:38):
little bit, you know, if it'snot like direct referrals and
stuff like that.
So, and that has been reallydifficult for me because I think
I operate sometimes out of ascarcity mindset.
And so I'm like I really want tofigure out how to leave that
behind and just operate not froma fear place, but just from
like a place of growth where I'mjust like what do I want to

(12:02):
invite into my life?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
You know that's good.
And then what about grudges?
Yeah, those are tough.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Those are number one.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Those are really, really hard and I think that
therapy helps a lot with thatbecause you know you get so your
emotions, you get so tied up inwhat someone's done to you or
whatever.
But I feel like therapy reallyhelps see something from all
sides and just knowing that,like holding that grudge I feel
like does more hurt to me thanletting it go.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Here's the Jedi mind trick that I've been trying,
that I'm gonna keep trying.
Like there's somebody that I'mirritated with, right, and I
have like I can go on a diatribeabout why their behavior is
frustrating to me.
So my Jedi mind trick is tothen think, okay, let me put
myself in their shoes and thinkabout what could be motivating

(12:58):
the behavior that's irritatingme and, you know, put my
therapist hat on a little bitbut say like, well, maybe this
is coming from their place ofabandonment.
Or maybe this is coming fromtheir place of you know,
whatever is the situation, andso that to me is a vehicle to
leave grudges behind a littlebit more.

(13:19):
Yeah, that's good, I'm notperfect at it, but that's what I
try to do.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, all you can do is try.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, Right.
So, and the last thing I canthink of off the top of my head
of leaving behind is saying yesto things when I want to say no.
That people please are in me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
You know like that is tough.
I feel like I've learned inthis past year, in 2023, to say
no a lot more yeah, but I alsofeel like I've said no to things
that I may have sort of saidyes to.
So it's like that balance youknow Like what.
I've been kind of like to myselfa lot more this year and so I

(13:59):
feel like I need to say yes to acouple, to some things that I'm
invited to, that I maybe waslike, oh God, it's a lot work or
I'm so tired of this.
You know, some of those thingsI may have, I may should try to
say yes to a lot you know alittle bit more.
So it's just finding thatbalance between yes and no you
know, that works for me.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, I like it, I like it.
Okay, let's talk about ourwords for 2024.
Okay, you go first.
What is your word?
That you, oh, you want me to gofirst.
Yeah, go first.
Okay, so I'm turning 50 nextyear next year.
I'm turning 49 tomorrow, butI'll be 50, right, so kind of
looking at like this next yearas I, the word I chose is

(14:39):
exuberance.
Right Because I want to embracethe quality of being full of
energy and excitement and beingcheerful.
So I that's my word.
So I looked this up and I'mgoing to tell you it because I
think if anybody else wants tochoose exuberance for their year
, they might appreciate this.

(15:00):
So exuberance is vulnerabilityand wild hopes and
boisterousness and longing.
So exuberance is waking up inthe morning and saying I'll try
new things, I'll be good tomyself, I'll listen to my needs,
I'll reach out and make realconnections with the people I
trust.
It's honesty and willingness.

(15:21):
So you don't have to be betteror successful to be exuberant.
So that's the part I'm tryingto really, you know.
So I'm going to embrace beingplayful and emphasize learning,
which I always do, but just evenmore.
So 2024 is going to be aboutseeking out new things new music
, new podcasts, art, food,places and people.

(15:42):
Exuberance is the recurringsense that, no matter how broken
you are, people will love you.
That's a good one, Isn't thatgood?
That's a good one.
I know that's a good one.
I'm really kind of excitedabout living it out as I look
down the barrel at thismilestone Not the barrel, that
sounds negative, but I'm lookingforward to this milestone

(16:03):
birthday yeah.
Okay, how about you my?

Speaker 1 (16:07):
word is today.
So, I want to be in the present, not focus on the past or worry
so much about what's going tohappen later on.
I want to focus on today.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
What.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
I have now be mindful of what I'm blessed with at
that moment and take it all in.
So today is going to be my wordfor 2024.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I like that.
Yeah, it feels very mindful,like a mindful approach.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, yeah, I just want to, yeah, I just want to
enjoy what I have and not worryabout what's going to happen or
what's not going to happen orthings that you can't change.
But what you can focus on iswhat's going on today, in the
moment.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
And what I really love about the word of the year
is it doesn't lock you into onespecific thing for the rest of
your life, because I've beendoing this for years now and
this past year it wasbittersweet.
Well, I don't really need tofeel bittersweet in 2024.
That's not, but it reallyresonated for me with Lily
leaving.
Yeah, and I love that aboutchoosing a word and kind of

(17:14):
creating this base out of it ofwhat you want intentionally to
be your focus.
Yeah, because maybe next yearyour word will be growth, so it
won't be like today, right,right, I just love that, me too.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I make all my plans to it.
What about New Year'sresolutions Two?

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Do you believe in them or not believe in them?

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Depends on what I'm saying.
Ok, so one year I was like I'mgoing to not drink any like Coke
products sodas, dr Pepper for ayear, and I did do it.
It was tough.
I did do it because I love mesome Dr Pepper.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Me too, I love.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Dr Pepper.
So I did do that, but now thatI mean I was a teenager, but now
as an adult, my resolutionshave changed more into like self
care type resolutions, so it'smore of like what I'm wanting to
do in 2024.
Like putting myself first.
Yeah, you know, I feel like andyou're probably guilty of this

(18:17):
too we do so much for everyoneelse.
Yes, that our little self caresometime gets put to the side
and we'll take here.
Oh, we'll do that for ourselveslater, but we get that, so I'm
going to start putting myselffirst.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I like it, yeah, yeah , I love.
So I do love New Year'sresolutions.
I mean just like how peoplestart things on Mondays.
Our brains naturally love ademarcation point of jump, you
know, a bench if you will.
So I do love that about NewYear's.
I always say it's going to beexercise, like I, and it's not

(18:54):
ever really fully like completed.
I did pick up Pilates this yearand I've been pretty consistent
with that.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
So I went with you and I thought I was absolutely
not going to make.
You did great.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
It was your first time.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, and I just had no idea what I was doing, guys,
and I kind of felt like Lucy andApple when they were making the
chocolate, just like playingaround, like I was like OK, like
I know what's going on.
But it was yeah, it was fun.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, so and then I think this year I kind of like
what you were saying aboutsaying yes to other things.
I do want to try doing that,like trying to just do new
things, try new museum, museums,go to new places, be a tourist
in my own town.
Like kind of yes, enjoy newadventures, continue healing,

(19:49):
you know, continue therapynurture the relationships that
you want to have in your life.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
You know, since we're letting go of the toxic the
ones that we have that we careabout we want to continue having
those relationships.
Really nurturing and spendingtime with, with those loved ones
is going to be really importantfor me this year Therapy,
therapy self acceptance and selfacceptance, yeah, loving

(20:16):
ourselves, loving ourselves,self care, you know just all the
things Positivity is reallyimportant for for new years, for
me, for 2024.
So I thought today, instead ofdoing an asked and answered, we
do a this or that.
Ok, I like.
So I have a couple of a coupleof questions, all new years
related types.

(20:37):
That's just a little fun, ok.
So are you staying up tillmidnight or no?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
No, probably not no.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
How?
How late do you think you'regoing to stay?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Girl.
I mean, I said I stayed up latelast night reading that book
and it was 11.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Ok so that's why I get that.
I don't think it are you goingto?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
you're going to try 930.
You mind?
I mean?
I mean, we are in a day and ageof when you can watch that
fucking ball drop anytime youwant on a screen.
Yeah, Google it, Right?
So I don't really feel the needto stay up to watch it drop.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I mean I guess I liked the staying up till
midnight when I still reallydrink alcohol and was out and
you know I mean like partyingand stuff like that and that
like that happens at midnight.
But I don't need to with my dogand my husband.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
So so my next one was low key night at home or going
out.
So you're staying home.
To stay home, yes.
Would you live the past yearover again or move on to the
next year?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I'm always a move on to the next year.
I'd be curious if somebody saidlive it over again.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Like yeah, they must have one, like the lottery.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I know they're going to live it over.
I think I'm always excitedabout what's to come, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, me too.
I'm not a live in the past typeperson.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Uh-uh no.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Would you give up soda for six months or French
fries?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Oh God, you know I love fries and soda.
I think I would give up sodaover fries.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I would probably give up the fries.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Really yeah, but I feel like I can supplement with
other things, like with soda.
I mean, you can have coffee andtea and yeah, with French fries
I can have hash browns.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, those aren't French fries, but they're very
similar.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah or tater tots.
No no.
I don't want to give up Frenchfries.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I don't think I want to give up my Dr Pepper again.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I do love my Dr Pepper, but I think I could do
that for six months more than Icould do French fries, and it's
not like I eat French fries asoften as I drink soda.
So I'm kind of surprised atmyself right now, yeah, but I
just really maybe I'm hungry.
There you go, I'm just hungry,am.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I, this is the last, this or that, ok.
So clean up confetti in TimesSquare or clean up after zoo
animals, ok this is.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
I'm glad you asked this one because I would rather
clean up after zoo animals.
I'm going to tell you why.
When I take my dogs for a walk,I actually feel some level of
like get or done when I get thepoop up.
And I'm really strange becauseI think maybe because Mahi had
runny poops as a puppy and I wasalways worried about her poop.

(23:30):
Every time I pick it up I'mlike a little investigatory
about it Is that, even a word.
I'm like feels firm Doesn't looklike she ate anything weird in
there, like there's a level ofsatisfaction.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
I agree, I would clean up after zoo animals too,
just because like they're cute,ok, then you get to play with
the zoo animal.
Yeah, and like confetti firstof all, I would be so like, like
, if I missed one piece ofconfetti, I'd be like, like I
just, you know, like, and it'sgonna be dirty out there, dirty,
dirty, like I'll never forget Iwas at a bar once in Los

(24:06):
Angeles when I was living outthere and it was the bar that
has, like the bowl, the buckingbowl, on Sunset I don't remember
the name of it and I'm standingthere.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I'm in open toed shoes, like platforms right, and
I turn around and this guy haswhipped it out and is literally
peeing on my feet in the middleof this like crop.
Did that why?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
does that happen to more than one person?
Oh well, yeah, that does happen.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
And yeah, oh.
So I feel like when you'repicking up the confetti, you're
just picking up P, human P2,although the animal P doesn't
really puke.
I'm out.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, but see like animals though, like they're
just so cute.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I know it doesn't bother me.
The same way, Pew right.
Pugh, I'm not zoo animals.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm all.
I'm good for that.
So, yeah, yeah, I like it Allright.
Well, I hope everyone has ahappy and safe new year.
We will see you guys here Speakwith you guys after 2024 hits.
So thank you to our listenersfor joining us today.
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(25:36):
We are your host, kathy DanMoore, in Deslo.

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And join us for our first episode of 2024, where we
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