March 8, 2024 • 19 mins
KathyDan and Jess are back for Season 2!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to spilling the ferretti.
Oh my gosh, it's been forever.
What's your host therapistKathy DeMor and Greek coach
Deslo.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I was trying to remember when was the last time
that we met.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Right before New Year's.
It's been like almost twomonths which we didn't plan on
this, no hiatus, but yeah, ithit the fan.
Yeah, and life happens and weare glad to be back, um so we'll
just talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We're doing like are we demarcating it?
Like that was season one andnow this is season two?
Yeah, I like that.
This is season two.
We planned this all along.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, thank you guys so much for hanging on and
waiting for us.
And sending us messages sayingplease come back.
And we are back.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So All right, so well , let's just catch up then and
tell me what's now.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well, a little bit of same old same old.
Everyone knows that I have, youknow, million dollar baby dogs
what we call them over here, andunfortunately, taylor's health
has progressed and she's nowterminal with her heart disease,
so we're just taking care ofher day by day until she lets us
(01:21):
know that she's.
You know, she's ready.
And people will call me crazyguys, but I've moved into my
living room.
You have, yes, girl, I got aking size mattress and then oh,
wow, and like I've moved in andI wouldn't have done that if I
don't have to get like aroundthe clock, meds and she like
(01:46):
stops like breathing, and thenshe comes back Like it's like a
whole thing.
Then she comes back, and so it'slike and I wear hearing aids so
and I don't wear them, so it'sharder to hear when something's
going on a real way.
So I live in the living roomand me and my husband say hi to
each other sometimes.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, it's been very exhausting but like I'm grateful
that she's given us so muchlove over her 12 years, that
like this is something that Ihave to be for.
It's an honor to take care ofher in these last days.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
She's so cute.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
She is a sweetest.
We got family pictures donelast Sunday and I am obsessed
with them.
I've ordered canvas prints ofso many of them.
Oh, that's cute.
Like that's coming out of mydecor now is just my dog.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, listen, I have a whole hallway where and it's
funny I was in the other day.
We brought on a new clinician.
We've run on a couple newclinicians since we chatted last
time, but one of them, alexa,has a Cavalier King Charles
spaniel which, as everybodyknows, I mean I didn't hire her
just because of that, but itdidn't hurt and she had gone to
(02:58):
like a painting with a twist andpainted Her dog's name is Chloe
, Shout out to Chloe, and socute.
And I was like, oh yeah, girl,I hired somebody to paint Mahi.
My mom actually did.
Yeah, Sunshine and Augie.
So since you were in St Petelast time, I've hung the three
(03:22):
canvas paintings up on the wall.
That goes into the first guestbath.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So I have no negative commentsabout people who want to
decorate.
I don't have a lot of picturesof my kids up and I've got
paintings up the top.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
There we go.
That's so funny.
Yeah, so we did that.
And also I lost my grandfatherin January too, which is another
reason why we kind of took abreak.
It was a very unexpected loss,and I'll talk a little bit more
about that.
This season it's a lot toreally unload all at one time,
(04:01):
as I'm still in, you know, inthe grieving process, but just
grieving a lot heavily.
His birthday was yesterday, andso it was just one of the first
and we'll talk about that alittle bit later, but that's
really been my hiatus has been agrieving hiatus.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Thank God.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I know what to do, right, I know.
Good thing, you're good at thisand that you've been trained.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Absolutely.
What about you?
I know you've been travelingand traveling.
Mine's been a little bit moreupbeat.
I'm just going to lie.
I'm living vicariously there.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Mine's been pretty good.
So I had Lily came home forGasparilla and brought a bunch
of girlfriends with her, so thatwas really fun.
Finn and I went to Jacksonvillefor a college trip, our first
one.
We went and toured UNF and thengot to see Ellie when we were
(04:58):
there, so that was really a goodtime.
Last weekend I went with mybest girlfriends from Tulane up
to New York City, and it's sofunny.
I don't know how we reallyended up on New York City in
February, but we did.
And luckily my friend Emilyhelped organize my outfits
(05:19):
before I left, because, livingin Florida, you're really not
uber prepared for that weather.
So anyways, we did that andthat was just.
There's nothing like spendingtime with your girlfriends from
your childhood.
Yeah, I have there's six of usin my high school group and
(05:39):
there's five of us in my collegegroup, and actually the six of
us from high school are going toBar Harbor, maine, in a couple
months for our girls trip.
So I mean, you just laugh at adifferent level.
Yeah, you know.
So it was so much fun.
And then I also have going on.
(06:01):
I leave Tuesday.
Doug and I are following to theBahamas.
Yeah, we have a friend thatbought a big, fancy boat and he
is doing fishing tournaments,and so he asked Doug to be on
the team.
I'm not technically on the team, but I'm going to.
Yeah, I've been invited toattend.
(06:23):
I'll make myself useful.
There you go.
So we're doing that for aboutfive days over in Chubb K,
bahamas.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That's awesome.
Yeah, I've never been to theBahamas Really.
But, no, I haven't.
And you know, Jason, I talkedabout, oh, we're going to buy a
category and we're going to sell, and we're like we're going to
the Bahamas.
But now we're like, no, we'rejust moving to Boston and then
we're going to start who knowswhere I'm going to be in the
next couple of years for for ourhome base.
(06:52):
But I think we're going to endup probably just being in Boston
.
We know the boats.
His dream yeah, you could doboth, we could do both.
He was like we could buy acatamaran and stay in Boston on
it and then we can go.
He wants to go to Europe, andso yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Who knows, I was just reading something the other day
.
What was I looking at?
Oh, I was looking for like Iwas shopping at base and I found
this cute website.
Girls are Better with Pearls,or oh yeah.
It's very adorable, but it'sbased out of Newport, rhode
Island.
Oh yeah, as I do.
(07:29):
I went down the rabbit hole andI was like this looks adorable
of a place to live, because youknow, doug and I are going out
to the Cape.
Yeah, and a few months I don'tknow when we're going.
In September, yeah, I was likewhen am I going?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
September, we're going in June.
Okay Well, we're playing it byear with the dog situation, but
we're supposed to go to Bostonin June for our 10-year wedding
anniversary.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh fun.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
But we've been to Newport and maybe it's really
cute.
I hope nobody that lives inNewport the wrong way, but they
were not as friendly theretowards us as everywhere else in
New England, like everywhere.
I love New England, people areso nice, but Newport was like.
(08:18):
Newport was its own type ofyeah Vibe.
Yeah, own type of vibe.
I'd probably give it anothershot.
It was really cute little town,though yeah, for sure.
Yeah, and the sand was like pink, like the water was pink, the
sand was.
It was really cool.
Oh, I love that.
I guess it was like pink algae,but it was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It was less romantic and pretty when you say that it
was so pretty, though we werelike fascinated.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
We were like oh my gosh isn't it like that in
Bermuda?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Isn't the sand pink in Bermuda?
Yeah, or yeah, yeah, I thinkthis or is a salt or Himalayan
salt, Himalayan salt.
Maybe we'll just look this uplater.
Yeah anyhow.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Anyways, let's talk about what is gonna be new and
exciting for the podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Okay, so we've got some new ones coming out, so
next one that's gonna bereleased is on spirituality and
it's place in therapy.
So that's a question that weget asked occasionally.
I don't know how often you getasked when people call.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I've more frequently lately I've been asked Okay,
yeah, and I think a lot ofpeople think that spirituality
is just about like Christianity,that type of thing.
It's such a broad spectrum andso that's something we're really
gonna dive deep into.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, it's interesting and some people
market themselves as Christiancounselors and that they
specifically use that as part oftheir modality and approach.
And so that's great.
We'll share a little bit aboutprofessionally how I do it, how
some of the people in mypractice do it and we don't all
do it the same and then we'regonna look at some literature
(10:04):
that sort of supportsspirituality as an additional
resource for just positivemental health in general.
I actually just had a clientthis morning who she quit
drinking like six months ago andwas talking about the positives
and negatives of thatexperience for herself and she
(10:27):
was saying that one of thethings she kind of gained out of
it was a new found, or renewed,I would say, spirituality, and
how she's kind of putting that.
Yeah, so there's a lot.
I mean it's obviously somethingthat we could go on and on.
There's a lot.
You and I approach it a littlebit differently.
I mean so yeah, I think it'salways interesting to talk about
(10:49):
.
I know they say not to talkabout politics and religion but
it's like you know, I feel likeif we can all go into it with an
open mind and talk about itRight, absolutely Having space
for different beliefs, it's areally healthy conversation to
have.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I think so too, and I'm always interested to know
and learn about other people'sreligions and that sort of thing
too.
And their spiritual approach isreally fascinating to me too,
so, yeah, we're also gonna talkabout trust issues.
Right, we're gonna talk aboutrejection and some episodes.
We're gonna talk aboutself-harm In an episode.
(11:24):
They get into how financesaffect relationships and what is
really going on with moneyfights.
Yeah, there's so much moreunderneath.
You do with this a lot right.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
We talk about that a lot and just the whole scarcity
mindset and how that kind ofcomes into play.
I see it as a you know, one ofthe heavy hitting topics in
couples counseling, and thencertainly it gets escalated when
we're talking about separatingor divorce and that's when
things start getting hot.
(11:55):
Yeah, for sure, and we'veincluded we're gonna have an
episode also with an interviewof one of our new team members
at KDM counseling, Layla, andshe is a school psychologist.
So we're gonna talk to herabout just what's involved in
psychological testing, what'sinvolved in psychoeducational
(12:18):
evaluations, and then that leadsinto a little bit of
conversation about spectrumdisorder.
Now she does testing for kids,but we're going to talk also
about how spectrum disorder issomething that I'm seeing show
up a fair amount in adults thatI'm working with Right Never
(12:38):
really diagnosed.
Not that I'm here to put alabel on it, but it's sort of a
newer idea that clients arestarting to go.
Oh, maybe that's what isactually going on with me.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
For sure For sure.
Yeah, so we have a lot ofepisodes that I'm excited about.
Yeah, you too.
So we're going to schedule dropa little bit for now, just so
we can get back into the swingof the episodes.
So we are going to do oneepisode a month for now, but
we're going to keep those comingand hopefully we can get back
(13:13):
on track with more episodes inthe future.
This is more for my mentalhealth.
If everybody could just stayalive.
Yeah, let me see how it goes.
Guys, my dogs and yeah, so I'mreally excited.
I'm so glad that we are back,because this is also good for my
(13:33):
mental health to be here anddiscussing the things that we
see so often as well, because italso helps me on my end learn
and help others when they docall in too.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So this is the one for me, and it's like I get to
see your face.
Yeah, I know that we talk andtext and email all day long, all
the time, but I get to see yourface.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's so nice to see you too.
Yeah, but we do have an answerfor this episode, so let's get
into that one.
It's from Mallory andCharleston.
She says hi, ladies, werecently lost our family pet of
13 years.
Marty our Yorkie.
Oh, my mom has Yorkies.
I am having a difficult time asI miss him terribly.
(14:18):
Any advice on how to get out ofthis sadness I am feeling?
First of all, I feel youbecause I'm on my way there
myself.
So I'm so sorry.
13 years is a long time.
Dogs and cats and pets thereare family, so when you lose an
animal, it's just like losing afamily member.
(14:39):
So you grieve and you havethose same stages of grief that
you're going to go through.
You might go through themdifferently than you would if
you lost your mother.
It's like all grief isdifferent depending on who
you're losing and things likethat.
But there are some things thatI know that I'm already
implementing for myself so thatwhen the time comes I'm kind of
(15:02):
a step ahead for me.
I know that I want to helpother animals after I lose my
two babies.
I don't necessarily adoptanymore right now because it's
been a long time, but I do wantto volunteer in honor of my dogs
(15:23):
.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
So I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You know that I can do.
I can go and volunteer at theshelter, donate goods, things
like that.
So just thanks, to memorializeyour dog and like things that
you would know would make themso happy that you're helping
other dogs.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, I love that.
That's such a great idea.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And I think it would lift your spirits too, you know,
while you're doing it, becausehow can you not be happy to see
all these cute little babies,you know?
So that's something that I planon doing, and I'm also just
going to give myself grace andspace to feel the feelings that
I'm having, because that is arelationship that you're losing.
You know, your dogs are thereto comfort you just as much as
(16:06):
you are there to comfort them,so it's not more it's not more
like they are so deserving, likewe do not deserve the love that
they give us.
But I just say, you know, giveyourself grace, take the time to
feel the feels Don't ruminateon the like the moment you lose
your dog.
Don't let that be your lastingmemory also, you know, but like,
(16:30):
remember all the things thatyou've done with them, all the
adventures you've gone on theirdoggy breath and all the things
you know, like those things, letthose be the memories you have
in your mind, not the like endof their life.
Yeah, that's how much sense.
I love that Because I feel likethat prolongs your grief too,
like the heaviness that you havewhen you're grieving.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, and I think finding a support network too.
A lot of people love their dogslike family.
you know, and you're not aloneto feel a profound sense of
grief when losing your familymember, and so reaching out
other people will understand.
So reaching out to friends andfamily, you know even talking to
(17:18):
a therapist.
You know doing some EMDR aroundsome of the process because
there is.
It is a difficult process atthe end as you're going through
it, like the medicalinterventions and the vets and
the meds, and you know all ofthe treatments and that's
traumatic and so I think youknow really finding some support
(17:42):
to talk about what you've gonethrough and the sadness that
you're experiencing not havingthem anymore is important too.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, for sure, and I'm just, you know, love on them
while you have them guys.
And I'm so sorry to hear aboutMarty Marty sounds like a cutie
patootie, yeah so, but yeah so,just take grace, you know time,
and have grace for yourself.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
All right.
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Speaker 2 (18:37):
And join us next time for our discussion about
spirituality and its role intherapy.
We'll be breaking it down onesip at a time.
Welcome back to spilling the ferretti.
Oh my gosh, it's been forever.
What's your host therapistKathy DeMor and Greek coach
Deslo.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I was trying to remember when was the last time
that we met.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Right before New Year's.
It's been like almost twomonths which we didn't plan on
this, no hiatus, but yeah, ithit the fan.
Yeah, and life happens and weare glad to be back, um so we'll
just talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We're doing like are we demarcating it?
Like that was season one andnow this is season two?
Yeah, I like that.
This is season two.
We planned this all along.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, thank you guys so much for hanging on and
waiting for us.
And sending us messages sayingplease come back.
And we are back.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So All right, so well , let's just catch up then and
tell me what's now.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well, a little bit of same old same old.
Everyone knows that I have, youknow, million dollar baby dogs
what we call them over here, andunfortunately, taylor's health
has progressed and she's nowterminal with her heart disease,
so we're just taking care ofher day by day until she lets us
(01:21):
know that she's.
You know, she's ready.
And people will call me crazyguys, but I've moved into my
living room.
You have, yes, girl, I got aking size mattress and then oh,
wow, and like I've moved in andI wouldn't have done that if I
don't have to get like aroundthe clock, meds and she like
(01:46):
stops like breathing, and thenshe comes back Like it's like a
whole thing.
Then she comes back, and so it'slike and I wear hearing aids so
and I don't wear them, so it'sharder to hear when something's
going on a real way.
So I live in the living roomand me and my husband say hi to
each other sometimes.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, it's been very exhausting but like I'm grateful
that she's given us so muchlove over her 12 years, that
like this is something that Ihave to be for.
It's an honor to take care ofher in these last days.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
She's so cute.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
She is a sweetest.
We got family pictures donelast Sunday and I am obsessed
with them.
I've ordered canvas prints ofso many of them.
Oh, that's cute.
Like that's coming out of mydecor now is just my dog.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, listen, I have a whole hallway where and it's
funny I was in the other day.
We brought on a new clinician.
We've run on a couple newclinicians since we chatted last
time, but one of them, alexa,has a Cavalier King Charles
spaniel which, as everybodyknows, I mean I didn't hire her
just because of that, but itdidn't hurt and she had gone to
(02:58):
like a painting with a twist andpainted Her dog's name is Chloe
, Shout out to Chloe, and socute.
And I was like, oh yeah, girl,I hired somebody to paint Mahi.
My mom actually did.
Yeah, Sunshine and Augie.
So since you were in St Petelast time, I've hung the three
(03:22):
canvas paintings up on the wall.
That goes into the first guestbath.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So I have no negative commentsabout people who want to
decorate.
I don't have a lot of picturesof my kids up and I've got
paintings up the top.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
There we go.
That's so funny.
Yeah, so we did that.
And also I lost my grandfatherin January too, which is another
reason why we kind of took abreak.
It was a very unexpected loss,and I'll talk a little bit more
about that.
This season it's a lot toreally unload all at one time,
(04:01):
as I'm still in, you know, inthe grieving process, but just
grieving a lot heavily.
His birthday was yesterday, andso it was just one of the first
and we'll talk about that alittle bit later, but that's
really been my hiatus has been agrieving hiatus.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Thank God.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I know what to do, right, I know.
Good thing, you're good at thisand that you've been trained.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Absolutely.
What about you?
I know you've been travelingand traveling.
Mine's been a little bit moreupbeat.
I'm just going to lie.
I'm living vicariously there.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Mine's been pretty good.
So I had Lily came home forGasparilla and brought a bunch
of girlfriends with her, so thatwas really fun.
Finn and I went to Jacksonvillefor a college trip, our first
one.
We went and toured UNF and thengot to see Ellie when we were
(04:58):
there, so that was really a goodtime.
Last weekend I went with mybest girlfriends from Tulane up
to New York City, and it's sofunny.
I don't know how we reallyended up on New York City in
February, but we did.
And luckily my friend Emilyhelped organize my outfits
(05:19):
before I left, because, livingin Florida, you're really not
uber prepared for that weather.
So anyways, we did that andthat was just.
There's nothing like spendingtime with your girlfriends from
your childhood.
Yeah, I have there's six of usin my high school group and
(05:39):
there's five of us in my collegegroup, and actually the six of
us from high school are going toBar Harbor, maine, in a couple
months for our girls trip.
So I mean, you just laugh at adifferent level.
Yeah, you know.
So it was so much fun.
And then I also have going on.
(06:01):
I leave Tuesday.
Doug and I are following to theBahamas.
Yeah, we have a friend thatbought a big, fancy boat and he
is doing fishing tournaments,and so he asked Doug to be on
the team.
I'm not technically on the team, but I'm going to.
Yeah, I've been invited toattend.
(06:23):
I'll make myself useful.
There you go.
So we're doing that for aboutfive days over in Chubb K,
bahamas.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That's awesome.
Yeah, I've never been to theBahamas Really.
But, no, I haven't.
And you know, Jason, I talkedabout, oh, we're going to buy a
category and we're going to sell, and we're like we're going to
the Bahamas.
But now we're like, no, we'rejust moving to Boston and then
we're going to start who knowswhere I'm going to be in the
next couple of years for for ourhome base.
(06:52):
But I think we're going to endup probably just being in Boston
.
We know the boats.
His dream yeah, you could doboth, we could do both.
He was like we could buy acatamaran and stay in Boston on
it and then we can go.
He wants to go to Europe, andso yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Who knows, I was just reading something the other day
.
What was I looking at?
Oh, I was looking for like Iwas shopping at base and I found
this cute website.
Girls are Better with Pearls,or oh yeah.
It's very adorable, but it'sbased out of Newport, rhode
Island.
Oh yeah, as I do.
(07:29):
I went down the rabbit hole andI was like this looks adorable
of a place to live, because youknow, doug and I are going out
to the Cape.
Yeah, and a few months I don'tknow when we're going.
In September, yeah, I was likewhen am I going?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
September, we're going in June.
Okay Well, we're playing it byear with the dog situation, but
we're supposed to go to Bostonin June for our 10-year wedding
anniversary.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh fun.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
But we've been to Newport and maybe it's really
cute.
I hope nobody that lives inNewport the wrong way, but they
were not as friendly theretowards us as everywhere else in
New England, like everywhere.
I love New England, people areso nice, but Newport was like.
(08:18):
Newport was its own type ofyeah Vibe.
Yeah, own type of vibe.
I'd probably give it anothershot.
It was really cute little town,though yeah, for sure.
Yeah, and the sand was like pink, like the water was pink, the
sand was.
It was really cool.
Oh, I love that.
I guess it was like pink algae,but it was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It was less romantic and pretty when you say that it
was so pretty, though we werelike fascinated.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
We were like oh my gosh isn't it like that in
Bermuda?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Isn't the sand pink in Bermuda?
Yeah, or yeah, yeah, I thinkthis or is a salt or Himalayan
salt, Himalayan salt.
Maybe we'll just look this uplater.
Yeah anyhow.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Anyways, let's talk about what is gonna be new and
exciting for the podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Okay, so we've got some new ones coming out, so
next one that's gonna bereleased is on spirituality and
it's place in therapy.
So that's a question that weget asked occasionally.
I don't know how often you getasked when people call.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I've more frequently lately I've been asked Okay,
yeah, and I think a lot ofpeople think that spirituality
is just about like Christianity,that type of thing.
It's such a broad spectrum andso that's something we're really
gonna dive deep into.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, it's interesting and some people
market themselves as Christiancounselors and that they
specifically use that as part oftheir modality and approach.
And so that's great.
We'll share a little bit aboutprofessionally how I do it, how
some of the people in mypractice do it and we don't all
do it the same and then we'regonna look at some literature
(10:04):
that sort of supportsspirituality as an additional
resource for just positivemental health in general.
I actually just had a clientthis morning who she quit
drinking like six months ago andwas talking about the positives
and negatives of thatexperience for herself and she
(10:27):
was saying that one of thethings she kind of gained out of
it was a new found, or renewed,I would say, spirituality, and
how she's kind of putting that.
Yeah, so there's a lot.
I mean it's obviously somethingthat we could go on and on.
There's a lot.
You and I approach it a littlebit differently.
I mean so yeah, I think it'salways interesting to talk about
(10:49):
.
I know they say not to talkabout politics and religion but
it's like you know, I feel likeif we can all go into it with an
open mind and talk about itRight, absolutely Having space
for different beliefs, it's areally healthy conversation to
have.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I think so too, and I'm always interested to know
and learn about other people'sreligions and that sort of thing
too.
And their spiritual approach isreally fascinating to me too,
so, yeah, we're also gonna talkabout trust issues.
Right, we're gonna talk aboutrejection and some episodes.
We're gonna talk aboutself-harm In an episode.
(11:24):
They get into how financesaffect relationships and what is
really going on with moneyfights.
Yeah, there's so much moreunderneath.
You do with this a lot right.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
We talk about that a lot and just the whole scarcity
mindset and how that kind ofcomes into play.
I see it as a you know, one ofthe heavy hitting topics in
couples counseling, and thencertainly it gets escalated when
we're talking about separatingor divorce and that's when
things start getting hot.
(11:55):
Yeah, for sure, and we'veincluded we're gonna have an
episode also with an interviewof one of our new team members
at KDM counseling, Layla, andshe is a school psychologist.
So we're gonna talk to herabout just what's involved in
psychological testing, what'sinvolved in psychoeducational
(12:18):
evaluations, and then that leadsinto a little bit of
conversation about spectrumdisorder.
Now she does testing for kids,but we're going to talk also
about how spectrum disorder issomething that I'm seeing show
up a fair amount in adults thatI'm working with Right Never
(12:38):
really diagnosed.
Not that I'm here to put alabel on it, but it's sort of a
newer idea that clients arestarting to go.
Oh, maybe that's what isactually going on with me.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
For sure For sure.
Yeah, so we have a lot ofepisodes that I'm excited about.
Yeah, you too.
So we're going to schedule dropa little bit for now, just so
we can get back into the swingof the episodes.
So we are going to do oneepisode a month for now, but
we're going to keep those comingand hopefully we can get back
(13:13):
on track with more episodes inthe future.
This is more for my mentalhealth.
If everybody could just stayalive.
Yeah, let me see how it goes.
Guys, my dogs and yeah, so I'mreally excited.
I'm so glad that we are back,because this is also good for my
(13:33):
mental health to be here anddiscussing the things that we
see so often as well, because italso helps me on my end learn
and help others when they docall in too.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So this is the one for me, and it's like I get to
see your face.
Yeah, I know that we talk andtext and email all day long, all
the time, but I get to see yourface.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's so nice to see you too.
Yeah, but we do have an answerfor this episode, so let's get
into that one.
It's from Mallory andCharleston.
She says hi, ladies, werecently lost our family pet of
13 years.
Marty our Yorkie.
Oh, my mom has Yorkies.
I am having a difficult time asI miss him terribly.
(14:18):
Any advice on how to get out ofthis sadness I am feeling?
First of all, I feel youbecause I'm on my way there
myself.
So I'm so sorry.
13 years is a long time.
Dogs and cats and pets thereare family, so when you lose an
animal, it's just like losing afamily member.
(14:39):
So you grieve and you havethose same stages of grief that
you're going to go through.
You might go through themdifferently than you would if
you lost your mother.
It's like all grief isdifferent depending on who
you're losing and things likethat.
But there are some things thatI know that I'm already
implementing for myself so thatwhen the time comes I'm kind of
(15:02):
a step ahead for me.
I know that I want to helpother animals after I lose my
two babies.
I don't necessarily adoptanymore right now because it's
been a long time, but I do wantto volunteer in honor of my dogs
(15:23):
.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
So I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You know that I can do.
I can go and volunteer at theshelter, donate goods, things
like that.
So just thanks, to memorializeyour dog and like things that
you would know would make themso happy that you're helping
other dogs.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, I love that.
That's such a great idea.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And I think it would lift your spirits too, you know,
while you're doing it, becausehow can you not be happy to see
all these cute little babies,you know?
So that's something that I planon doing, and I'm also just
going to give myself grace andspace to feel the feelings that
I'm having, because that is arelationship that you're losing.
You know, your dogs are thereto comfort you just as much as
(16:06):
you are there to comfort them,so it's not more it's not more
like they are so deserving, likewe do not deserve the love that
they give us.
But I just say, you know, giveyourself grace, take the time to
feel the feels Don't ruminateon the like the moment you lose
your dog.
Don't let that be your lastingmemory also, you know, but like,
(16:30):
remember all the things thatyou've done with them, all the
adventures you've gone on theirdoggy breath and all the things
you know, like those things, letthose be the memories you have
in your mind, not the like endof their life.
Yeah, that's how much sense.
I love that Because I feel likethat prolongs your grief too,
like the heaviness that you havewhen you're grieving.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, and I think finding a support network too.
A lot of people love their dogslike family.
you know, and you're not aloneto feel a profound sense of
grief when losing your familymember, and so reaching out
other people will understand.
So reaching out to friends andfamily, you know even talking to
(17:18):
a therapist.
You know doing some EMDR aroundsome of the process because
there is.
It is a difficult process atthe end as you're going through
it, like the medicalinterventions and the vets and
the meds, and you know all ofthe treatments and that's
traumatic and so I think youknow really finding some support
(17:42):
to talk about what you've gonethrough and the sadness that
you're experiencing not havingthem anymore is important too.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, for sure, and I'm just, you know, love on them
while you have them guys.
And I'm so sorry to hear aboutMarty Marty sounds like a cutie
patootie, yeah so, but yeah so,just take grace, you know time,
and have grace for yourself.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
All right.
Well, guys, thank you to ourlisteners for joining us today
again.
Yay, yay, You've enjoyedtoday's episode.
Please leave us a review onApple Podcasts.
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(18:27):
If you have a question for ourAsk the Answers segment, click
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We hope you have a greatweekend.
We are your hosts, kathyDanmore and Deslo.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And join us next time for our discussion about
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We'll be breaking it down onesip at a time.
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