February 27, 2024 • 45 mins
Welcome to the Spiritual Spotlight Series, where we explore the intersection of spirituality and personal growth. In today's episode, Rachel Garrett is joined by the insightful and introspective Larry Armstead II, founder of Divine Human Design.
Together, they delve into the fascinating world of human design, a unique system that blends spiritual and physical elements to help individuals understand their energy configurations and navigate life's complexities.
As Rachel and Larry discuss human design, they not only explore the technical aspects of this system but also dive into its real-world applications. Larry generously offers a human design reading for Rachel, shedding light on her open solar plexus and hypersensitivity to emotions. Through this personal exploration, they touch on the significance of emotional awareness, embracing one's true self, and finding balance in spiritual growth.
Larry's own spiritual journey, marked by profound experiences and self-discovery, adds a layer of authenticity to the conversation. From facing inner conflicts to finding inner peace, he shares valuable insights gained from his personal transformation.
Emotional work can be a treacherous terrain, yet it's within our darkest shadows that we often find the most profound truths about ourselves. I open up about my own battles with internalized homophobia and the journey to self-acceptance, while Larry sheds light on the comfort some find within chaos. Together, we stress the role therapists or coaches play in navigating this delicate work, and the ongoing evolution of self-awareness that stretches far beyond the therapy room. By confronting our shadow selves, we initiate a transformative process of emotional regulation and growth, essential to harnessing the power of our own human design.
Join us as we unravel the intricacies of human design, delve into the complexities of spirituality, and embrace the wisdom of finding balance in our spiritual quests. This episode promises to be a thought-provoking and enriching exploration of the spiritual landscape.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello everyone, welcome to our spiritual
spotlight series.
Today I am joined by LarryArmstead II.
He is an ecology-certified lifecoach, divine human design
founder, certified mindfulnessteacher, quantum rakey certified
emotional freedom techniquepractitioner, tedx speaker which
is amazing an author.
Larry, thank you so much forcoming on the spiritual
(00:24):
spotlight series.
I am so happy you're here today.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Thank you for having me.
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
So for the first question how did you first
discover your passion for humandesign and life, spiritual, life
coaching?
Those are two big, heavy things.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh gosh, they kind of feed each other actually.
So if we look at the chronologyof that, spiritual life
coaching comes first and thenhuman design comes.
I've always been.
I was born on this planet as alittle spiritual guy.
My birthday is in three weeks,so 41 years ago.
(01:03):
I was born as just a littlespiritual guy, right, but I
didn't know what to do with it.
Growing up, and about 14, 15years old I had an experience
where I first saw the death ofmy oldest brother in graphic
detail of what was going tohappen, and I saw it about a
year before it happened and itkind of turned everything on and
(01:29):
I was never like I didn't golooking for it.
I wasn't, like you know, inactive meditation or anything
like looking for it.
It happened to me, right, andonce that light was on I
couldn't turn it off.
So I got extremely curiousabout, you know, after he passed
I was about 16 years old.
I got curious and you know thisis 1999.
So I went to a library and justchecked out every book on
(01:52):
spirituality, witches, ghosts,mediumship, anything.
That entire section I prettymuch owned.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Same same yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And it was absolutely .
And it was the time where theinternet was an infant right,
because it's 1999.
So it was the time you couldalso, you know, check out 15
library books at a time.
And I grew up in a veryspiritual Christian household
and so I was kind of in thecloset in two kinds of ways at
that time, and because I waslike, how am I parents are going
(02:23):
to feel about me having allthis stuff in their house, right
?
I started reading tarot andthen, you know, I had friends
all over the country.
I started doing readings forthem and then I had one friend
say, have you ever thought aboutdoing this online?
And I was like I'm not gonnapay me for this.
And turns out they do.
Wow.
(02:44):
And then human design actuallyhappened to me right before I
had a major breakup a few yearsago.
It had been on my radar and Iwas curious, but I wasn't like
invested.
I was like nope, I already havetarot, I have Oracle, I have
everything else that youmentioned at the top of the
podcast.
I don't need another modality,surely not.
(03:07):
And one night, you know, in thedeep, sunken place of the
breakup that you know happens toany of us that I'm going
through that.
I pulled open the human designapp that I had on my phone and I
saw myself and I was like, ohmy God, this explained so much
and I went just deep, straightdown the rabbit hole.
(03:30):
And I have been down thatrabbit hole ever since.
The biggest thing for me withhuman design is like I've been
trying to disprove that it works, and every time I try to
disprove it it doubles itselfdown.
I'm like, no, this is actuallya real thing.
So that's how I got here.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Wow, I want to say one thing that you mentioned.
You suffered some traumaticlosses, philosophy brother, a
traumatic breakup.
Would you say that these lossesare rocket fuel for your
ascension process?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
In a way that I've never thought about it the way,
but in a way, yes, absolutelythey're kind of the impact point
or the catalyst for thingshappening, in a way that I had
not even considered before.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So, yes, yeah, the only reason I bring it up is
that my brother committedsuicide many years ago and it's
okay.
Same to your brother too forhis loss.
And it's interesting when youlook back at you know, because
we're both spiritual people,you've been on this path a long
time, you know, like thesepivotal moments where we've had
these significant losses ortraumas.
(04:34):
You know that it's now like, oh,that's, this happened as part
of my ascension process.
Yes, it's a terrible loss, I'mvery sorry, but it's like now I
can look back on it and be like,okay, it's okay.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I mean yeah, that makes sense, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So go ahead, no no, no, no, go for it.
No, go for it.
I'm extra back and call, go forit.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Larry and our now best friends.
Okay, guys, absolutely so, andI will say this too, because
I've noticed some challenges inlearning human design.
So what challenges did you facein translating the complex
language of human design intoeveryday terms?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Oh gosh, it is one of the Okay, so again it's like
speaking Greek.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And that's I.
So I told my best friendactually introduced me to human
design.
I was like it's like someonespeaking in Chinese.
Yes, it was like I see allthese shapes and characters.
Yes, what does this mean?
The triangles and the squaresand the diamonds, and this is
colored in.
But this is open and you havethese lines going here, that
what does this mean?
And it took for me to kind oflike really immerse myself in it
(05:46):
.
It was kind of like when Ilearned Spanish, basically in
high school.
It was just like totallyimmersion, right Just to figure
out what's going on.
And you realize that humandesign is made up of several
different spiritual modalities.
And once you see the actualspiritual modalities, like the
Jewish Kabbalah in the each team, and you know astrology Eastern
(06:08):
and Western astrology you seeall of these components and I'm
like, oh, I can break theseapart and see where they
actually came from, and then Ican see how they've been
synthesized together to makesomething new.
And that was, that was thebreakthrough moment for me.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I love that.
To be honest, I've neverconsidered it like several
different modalities blendedinto one.
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, the, the, the Kabbalah tree of life's there,
like all of these modalities arethere and you just have to kind
of get to where you gravitateto in human design because, like
you said, it's one of the mostconfusing things because I mean
you could 75 websites.
You type in human design inGoogle right now you get 75
different websites that aregoing to explain it in 75
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different ways.
But the best way I always tellpeople is, if you come across
human design, get it is, get areading from a design reader
like myself, so we can actuallybreak it down for you, because
you you will come to find whenyou read on human design
generally online, it's, it'svery generalized, right, but
(07:12):
your design is actually aboutyou specifically.
So it's like cool that all thisother stuff means something,
but what does this mean about mespecifically?
How does this apply to me?
Right, that's when you'll startmaking the connection for the
body.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I love that and I think for also it sounds like
it's almost a deeper version ofof astrology, like a lot of
people really go into astrologyand whatnot, I guess can you
maybe explain how it's adifferent?
I know you're also an astrologycoach, so maybe I'm not asking
the right question.
(07:45):
So it's almost like cause Ihave a friend who was obsessed
with astrology and I'm alwayslike don't tell me what house my
blah blah blah is in.
I don't care Like it's justit's so stressful to me about
the whole Pluto going intoAquarius and where is it?
I'm like I don't want to die,like that's how I feel.
Like it just it comes acrosslike that.
Like it just your life is goingto be dramatic.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, so for me I'm not an astrology guy.
I guess the one thing that Ihaven't I'm not delved into that
, but my best friend she is nowin astrology.
I'm more the numerology typeperson.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Oh, okay, I like numerology yes.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yes, but human design has a huge astrological
component.
Wow, and it's about.
So the planets go through 64different expressions of each
planet.
Right, they call these planetsgates and human design.
And there are certain planetsthat you have the certain
configurations based on yourdesign charts, that you have
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consistent access to this typeof energy, and each planet, kind
of like an astrology, speaks ona different thing, like mercury
, for example, is your messageto communicate to the masses, or
right, and everyone has,everyone has a mercury placement
, so you'll get to see whatthose placements are and how
they line up in your chart andall those things.
So I mean, with human designit's you can break it apart.
(09:07):
By the same time, the humandesign it blends all the systems
together into this brand newsynthesis and you have to kind
of suspend what you know butalso apply what you know.
It's kind of a trade off inyour head a little bit.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I love that.
So in your book, Where's myPizza?
You talk about the power ofexpectation.
How has this concept played arole in your personal and
professional life?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
So it's actually very funny because this is one part
where I can actually blend humandesign here, so you guys can
see this.
So in human design, I have thechannel 4130 and a channel.
This channel, basically, is thechannel of expectations.
So I would I'm going to extendbased on my design, to look at
everything in my life based oncertain expectations.
Right, and this is before Iknew human design, design was a
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thing.
So the fact that I wrote a bookon expectations and that's one
of the major energy channels inmy chart is amazing, right.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yes, even before you.
Oh my goodness, how profound isthat.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Absolutely.
Your design is always workingin the background, whether you
know it or not, right?
Yes, and with Where's my Pizza?
When I wrote that, it wasduring a meditation I heard very
clearly in life, we don't getwhat we want, we get what we
expect.
And I'm like, I'm sorry, what?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Hell yeah, excuse me.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, right.
And from there it was just kindof like okay, so what do I do
with that?
In spirit, it was like, well,what are the things you actually
expect to happen?
Yeah, and I started looking ateverything and I'm like, oh okay
, well, I expect that you know,I'm going to have a one place to
lay my head and all thosethings.
So I'm actually looking forthose things.
(10:51):
And it's everything in yourlife that you actually look for,
even the things you look forsubconsciously, that you're not
aware of.
So the big thing is like okay,well, I'm stuck in a job that I
hate.
How am I expecting that?
Well, you're expecting to go toa job that you hate every day.
So you're going to fulfill theexpectation that you placed upon
that job every single day untilyou expect something different.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Wow, that is so interesting.
It doesn't, and it's almostlike it doesn't matter if it's
negative or positive.
It's neutral, like no matterwhat your expectation is and
what's in the subconscious andwhat you know and what you don't
know.
That's fascinating.
It's so fascinating.
You wrote a book aboutsomething that's actively in
your human design chart.
(11:34):
Like that's so cool.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's so cool.
So Rachel is speechless.
So can you maybe describe andI'm sure you have hundreds of
these a moment where youwitnessed in a client's life
through your coaching, that theyhad like a very
transformational experience or aprofound moment?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Oh yeah, I had a coaching client last week,
actually One of my favoritecoaching clients.
I won't, of course, not goingto drop any name or information,
but this coaching client cameto me and was like Larry, I
realize that I love living in ahouse that is dusty and clothes
aren't folded and all thesethings, and I'm like say more.
(12:20):
And she was like that'sactually the subconscious
expectation that I have, that Ilook, I wouldn't do it if I
didn't love it.
I'm getting a benefit frombeing here because I get to, I
get to talk about my husbandthat he's not doing enough, I
get to complain about this.
This isn't happening.
I get to complain all thesethings and I, larry, I actually
enjoy that.
He getting people to that placewhere they can like listen to
(12:44):
what's going on, they canobserve what's going on and they
can say, oh, my God, I actuallydo get some enjoyment out of
this, because what you'll noticeis that I'm not on a trauma
that's unresolved in your body,Wow, yeah.
So for me like if I use my ownself as an example kind of
veering away from the client Iam a almost 41 year old gay man
(13:04):
living in the Midwest and one ofthe biggest things for me was,
a couple of summers ago,realizing that I enjoy being a
homophobic gay man.
I would not go to a pridefestival because I wasn't like
those people I'm not gonna weara rainbow like those people.
I'm better than those people.
And I was like, oh shh I, thisis interesting.
(13:25):
And so it broke my heartinitially, Of course, Like into
a thousand pieces, Cause I'mlike this is my community, but
I'm completely judging thiscommunity.
But that unlocked another thing,because now I enjoy not only
being homophobic but I enjoyjudging it.
I'm like, okay, so how am Ijudging other people?
How do I enjoy that?
And it was like, oh, I'm betterthan everyone.
I'm better than my siblingsbecause I didn't do the things
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that they said.
I'm better than my brother whopassed because I didn't do so.
As you build up all of thesethings in your head, even on a
subconscious level, and thesethings are like little children
at the playground they need tocome out and they need to play
on all the rides.
So I was like you know what?
We're gonna let thesejudgmental, homophobic parts
play, because it's the only waywe're gonna transmute the energy
.
(14:06):
I let them come out and play.
I let myself be as judgmentalas I could in my journal.
Everywhere I would let thethoughts that I would typically
resist just pop to the forefrontof my head.
And what I found is this themoment that I let those things
out and play, they calmed downbecause they tucked their energy
out.
And now I went to my firstpride festival, wore the rainbow
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stuff and had a fantastic timezero judgment.
But that couldn't have happenedwithout me bringing that online
and just letting that play out.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I have to say I commend you in actually being so
vulnerable and open with youknow that's something that some
people don't want to admit tohaving you know within
themselves, like the shadow sideand the judgment side, and, as
you're saying it, it'sresonating with me.
I'm like I bet you I've got ajudgy bitch inside of me, like
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you know what I mean I know, Ido, and as you're saying I'm
like, oh, they need to, thisneeds to come out to play.
but I'm not going to know unlessI have a human design reading
Like you know what I mean.
Like I'm probably not going toknow what's tucked in and hidden
in, and you know, that'sfascinating that you allow that
to come up.
You identified it and thenyou're like all right, bitches,
(15:21):
let's go.
Like you know what I mean, andthen you tuckered that energy
out and now it's shifted anaspect of your life for the more
positive.
That's such a beautiful thing.
Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
You're very welcome.
It's kind of what I find kindof like if we don't do the
emotional work, if we don't letthose pieces like number one, if
you're going to do this kind ofwork, don't do it by yourself.
I mean, I had some support toyou know, do it with right, like
I work with the coach.
I did all the things I.
You know people are like oh,you're a coach, you work with
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the coach.
Absolutely Every coach, everycoach and every therapist.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yes, yes, as a healer , I have a healer.
As a healer, I have a coachApps 100%, like you always need
to be evolving.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Absolutely.
There's always somebody thatknows a little bit more than you
or has another resource thatyou don't have in your toolbox.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Right, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And so for me, when you do this kind of work, it is
literally you have to havesomeone to hold that space for
you, because you don't want, youdon't want to take that you
know that judgmental I.
You said you had the judgmentalbit.
You said I called him, I waslike you're a royal dick.
That's what I referred tomyself as right.
And you know I don't want to.
I don't want to turn thatoutward and like, look at my
family and be in a situationwith them and be like I'm so
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much better than you.
Yeah, I hate you.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I didn't want to do that right, Because I don't want
to hurt someone.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Right, but that energy needed somewhere to go
because it's a trauma responsethat never got resolution Right,
so it's kind of bad.
You have to have the space forsomewhere to go, someone to hold
that container open for youthat you can pour that into.
And then you have to be willingto do the work because, let's
face it, you're going to meetwith your coach once a week or
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your therapist once a week foran hour.
There's not a whole hell of alot that we as coaches or your
therapist can do in an hour, butyou're with yourself 24 hours a
day, so you got to be willingto do the work as well.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Can you maybe explain how yourapproach to human design differs
from traditional methods?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yes, so I term what I do divine human design, and
that is because, yeah, thank you, and it's because I can't unsee
all of the years of spiritualstuff that I've seen occur in my
life.
I can't discount it as unreal,I can't discount it as an
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illusion, and you will find anytraditionally human design
people please cover your earsright now, because I'm going to
say something very heretical butyou will find that in
traditional human design, thefounder of human design would
say you know, the spiritualaspect is an illusion.
And I'm like, no, it's not, itabsolutely isn't.
And so when I spoke at thehuman design conference in
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September of 2023, I spoke onthis very topic how the
spirituality is not an illusionand how I actually traced back
through concepts like the law ofone and from the tarot and from
, of course, the miracles.
And how.
The same voice, because if you,if you've read, of course, the
miracles, it speaks of the voicethat spoke, right.
(18:21):
Yeah, same thing in the law ofone, it speaks of the voice,
right, human design also has thesame voice, and that voice,
across all three systems,carries the same signature and
the same vibration.
It says the exact same things.
And I was like it's not anillusion, the spirituality is
not an illusion.
So I take all the tools thathave my toolbox and I blend them
into what I call divine humandesign.
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And I will say you know, a lotof people after that conference
came to me and said, oh my God,thank you so much for not
letting the spiritual aspect ofthis go.
Yes, and I can't let it go.
So I can only blend what I seeout into the bigger part of
human design, because humandesign itself is a synthesis and
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it's a mutative science is whatthey call it right.
So bringing the spiritual in ismutating human design in the
way that it's intended to go,because the founder is no longer
with us, so he was only able tocarry the torch so far.
Someone else has to carry thetorch, so someone else has to
carry the torch and then someoneelse has to carry.
So I don't have all the answersin divine human design.
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Someone else is going to takedivine human design and they're
going to mutate and evolve.
That yes.
I'm so excited to see where allthese offshoots are going,
because they all go together.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I love that.
I love how divine human designthat's really amazing, like I
really like that and I like thatyou're still incorporating the
spiritual aspect of it.
I couldn't imagine somebodysaying it's an illusion, like
that just seems so disconnectedfrom us as a divine being having
a human experience.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
What you'll see in human design, though, is there's
this polarity that happens inthe human experience, right when
people say, oh, we're allspiritual, and then you have
people say, no, it's all body,and the answer is it's neither.
It's somewhere in the center ofboth Right and human design is
the polar swing from the worldspiritual beings.
They say, no, it's all the body, no, it's a combination of both
(20:18):
.
That makes sense.
Do I have the exact dead centerof this?
I do not.
Did he have the exact deadcenter of this?
No, but what he brought in waswhat his nervous system was able
to contain for him, and hisnervous system was able to bring
through that.
We're neglecting the bodymechanics of it.
All Right, so that's what humandesign is for, but we can't we
also can't neglect the spiritualend of it as well.
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So we got to, we got to blend.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I love that.
So I know that part of thething you said you're going to
do a mini demonstration of ahuman design reading.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So let me pull your chart.
Goodness guys In the app.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
So I will say that while we were interviewing back
and forth, I really feltcomforted when I got an email
from Larry saying that we'regoing to get along because we
had.
I think we're.
What are you?
You're a competitor.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm a 6'2".
Speaker 1 (21:10):
And I think I'm a 6, something I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You are also a 6'2".
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Guys best friends.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yes, so I love 6'2's and, for people that are
listening, you're like what is a6'2?
A 6'2 is what, in human design,we call your profile and this
is the character that you playin this lifetime, right?
So you are just looking at yourchart.
You are a 6'2 generator.
What does any of that stuffmeans?
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This means you're here torespond to life, right?
So you've.
We talked a little bit beforethis podcast about you know what
does the sacral mean and whatdoes all these things mean and
all the good stuff.
So I'm going to ask you what do?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I think it means.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Or what are your big questions, because you have a
lot of interesting stuff goingon here.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
So, to be honest and okay, guys, so I am a reading
whore.
I love getting readings by anytype of reader.
I would be the first to admitthat I and I was like I don't
even know what questions to askfor a human, a divine human
design, and I and I hate to saythat because it makes me sound
like so silly and I guess it'smore like I don't know- no, it's
(22:32):
so.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I'll give you a couple of things here, just
based on what I'm saying at yourchart, just kind of a general
overview.
He's like I wish it was.
So.
The human design chart iscomposed of nine different
energy systems, and two of themhappen kind of above the neck.
So if you're familiar with the,the chakra system, right, human
design splits off into ninedifferent centers instead of
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seven.
So you have the familiar, thehand, the asana, you also have
the throat, then you have the Gcenter and the ego, which those
two have split off from oneanother.
Okay.
Then you have the solar plexus,you have the sacral, you have
the root, and then you also havethe spleen center.
All that is Greek, right.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So the big thing for you is I'm looking at your chart
here and you have a completelyopen solar plexus.
The solar plexus is in humandesign, is responsible for
emotions and emotionalregulations.
So I'm just going to go aheadand say what I'm going to say
here, that for you, you're goingto tend to be dramatic.
You wear your.
You wear your heart on yoursleeve Very much so I was going
(23:39):
to air away from the worddramatic, but you wear, you
definitely wear your heart onyour sleeve and you can tend
toward probably what peoplewould consider overreaction.
I hate that word becausethere's no such thing as an
overreaction.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I would say I'm hyper sensitive.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You are very hyper sensitive and that's because
your solar plexus is completelyopen.
So that means when you feel anemotion, you feel the emotion
ten times bigger in your body.
If you're happy, you're thehappiest person that has ever
been alive.
If someone has pissed you off,it is the hellfires of Satan
himself coming into the room.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Right, so hard to be good.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
But that's how you feel all emotion and that's the
way you're designed to feelemotion.
It is this big, explosiveemotion for you, no matter if
it's a good emotion or it's aneutral motion or some bad
emotion, and you feel it.
You're sensitive, you're goingto get your feelings hurt very
easily.
You're going to tend to getthat's going to happen for you
very easily.
And then, once you you'll findthat if you repress the
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expression of that emotion, ofthat emotion, the frustration
that you continue to get underis going to mount and get bigger
and you're going to becompletely frustrated until you
actually break at the seams.
And then it's going to be, it'sjust going to come at you,
right?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And anybody that's in .
Yeah, I'm very much a.
We need to get this out rightnow, or or I'm good, I'm done,
like I can't have animosity.
I don't like festering energy.
I'm like let's just clean thisslate here and now, because I
don't like this tension.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
And here's what's the interesting part about your
open solar plexus is is, onceyou have got it out, you're cool
, you're cool, you are, you'regood.
And people coming to you threedays later you're like and
they're rehashing and you'relike, oh, maybe we talked about
this.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I'm good, we're good, and they're so hung on to it.
Right, you're so good, this isso amazing, I'll be, I'll be
over and done with something infive minutes.
I'm like if we've talked aboutit, we're good.
Moving on, life is good.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Now and I'll just oppose that with someone like me
who has a defined solar plexuscenter, right.
So this might help you a littlebit in your life.
So if you, if you run acrosssomeone with a defined solar
plexus center like myself, wehave what we can call the
emotional wave.
So we are always feelingemotion.
So literally, imagine us on onthe ocean, right, even on the
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prettiest day at the ocean, youcan still see waves rippling on
the water.
They're not dramatic waves oranything like that, but they're
still moving on the water.
The water is not still.
That is how we are alwaysfeeling.
We're always feeling something.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Whereas you guys, I call it, you won't find, you
won't.
You won't find this term in ahuman design.
You'll find it when I releasemy book on it.
But I call you guys.
You have what I call emotionalimpact.
I liken it to a comet rippingthrough the atmosphere and it
hits the surface and throws upall this dust and stuff, but it
settles and it's done us.
The comet hits the water andit's waves and ripples.
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Yes, and we're throwingoverboard and we got all this
salt water in our face.
We're trying to figure outwhich way is up.
We can't see, we have noclarity, we don't know, and the
only thing that we can do is wecan ride the wave.
That's the only thing that wecan do.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
That is fascinating, like it makes me really have to
be more conscious of, maybe, howmy emotional reactions are if
somebody is constantly riding awave.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Like that sounds intense.
I don't know how to not be Like.
So people that are emotionallydefined, I find feel really
misunderstood.
And we're about 50% of thepopulation.
So there's 50% of you guyswalking out there that have no
emotional definition.
There are 50% of us walkingaround with emotional definition
.
I wouldn't know how to survivewithout emotional definition.
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My fiance is completelyemotionally open, the most
sensitive soul you will evermeet.
It's his feelings hurt likethis.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yes.
Right but for me it's like youcould text somebody and I'd be
like who are you texting?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, right, and for him it's very much that and for
me it's the emotionally.
That are people that areemotionally defined.
We have these.
We can often be accused offeeling, of seeming like we
don't care enough or that we'renot in it.
No, it's just because we're soused to being on the wave of the
water.
It's just like we're used tothis.
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Yes, so you get really bigemotional expression out of us
and you can also see in us.
Those people are like oh my God, you're bipolar.
Are they bipolar or are theyemotionally defined?
Because there are seven days inthe emotional solar plexus that
can change how this wavecalibrates, right?
So some people can have thesereally big crashing waves, right
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, it wouldn't make them seembipolar, but they're not.
They just haven't had a way orsomeone to tell them this is
what your wave is about, this iswhat you're feeling, this is
how you're feeling, this is howyou're supposed to process this.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That makes so much sense Now, you just said
something during this when yourbook comes out.
So are you writing a book ondivine human design?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I am.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
What is it coming out ?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I don't know.
So I'm right, it's a book andit's gonna have a tarot deck
with it.
It's about let's see where am Iat in the tarot deck.
I've done the major arcana,I've done the cups and I've done
the wands.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I am so excited Cause , honestly, in this brief time
that we've been together, youhave made divine human design
make so much more sense than andI honestly, like I've been
exposed to this for a year.
So it's not that it's not new,but the way that you were making
it understand to me, I'm like,oh okay, then this makes sense.
(29:23):
I do have a question.
I don't know if you can tell usin human design, sure, so I
really love doing interviews.
I love being a podcast host.
I love doing interviews.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It's in your design.
It's in your design.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Larry would love to do this.
I'm a registered nurse who runsa doctor's office in my
full-time gig, but I would loveto have this show or some type
of show be my gig, cause I'm ahealer and I do readings and all
that kind of fun stuff too.
But is that a possibility in myhuman design chart?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
So let me put your chart back up here.
So you have a defined throatright.
You are here to actually speak.
So the throat center in humandesign is the center for
manifestation right and for you,the way that your throat center
works.
Let me pull up that channelhere that you have.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I love these channels .
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, so you have the channel 1648.
So it's about bringing all yourintuition and all that
expression of an intuition tothe throat so it can actually
get out.
So you actually want to havethat.
You want to actually speak andcreatively use your talents, to
actually bring things into theworld.
And it has to be with what youidentify with.
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It can't be just any randomthing.
And that's to be what lightsyou up and what brings you joy,
because if it's not what lightsyou up and if it's not what
brings you joy, it is destinedto fail.
You will lose interest and youactually want to be turned on by
it.
So I would almost venture to saythat, with you being a healer
and the nursing thing, let melook at, let me scroll back up.
Okay, with you being a healer,with you being the nursing thing
, you have a lot ofindividuation in your chart, so
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you do like the one-on-one kindof connection that you get with
people.
And then you have oh, you havethe 515 as well.
Oh, my God.
So for you, it's about findinga rhythm that is basically
marching to the beat of your owndrums, a rhythm of your own
life, and then you have theserhythmic extremes that you have
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and it's something that youcan't explain to a lot of people
.
It's something that a lot ofpeople don't get about you and
it's like well, you're into thisand you're into that.
Yes, that's because you areresponding to long life, so
absolutely making this yourfull-time gig as a generator.
What you're here to do isyou're here to respond.
So the strategy for doing thatis you're gonna wait to respond,
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you're gonna wait for somethingto come into your aura field,
your energy field, and then onceyou're like oh, that makes
sense for me, I have thatresonates with me.
Then it's time to go.
But before you have somethingto respond to, it's time for you
to actually sit and lie andwait, gotcha.
So, and the way you're designedto respond because you have a
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Defiant Stake Roll Center isyou're designed to say uh-huh or
other things.
So you will notice in your lifethat you have probably been
told throughout your life useyour words.
Don't say mm-hmm, mm-hmm, sayno, give me an extra word, no,
the sacral is a motor and itmakes that noise automatically
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without you doing anything.
And you'll notice it the mostwith food.
Like you get some good food andyou're like mm-hmm-mm, this is
so good, that is your sacralsaying oh my God, this is really
good for me, I like this.
And if someone says, hey,rachel, you want to go out to a
movie and you're like, well, Imean, we can go later.
But the first thing your sacredsay was mm-mm, which means
whatever, whatever reason yourbody says I don't want to do
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this.
And those are the responses.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I'm.
I don't mean to laugh, but thisis so dead on because I'm
immediately yes, no, yes, no,yes, no, do you want to like?
And my family gets irritatedwith me because they'll be like,
well, I want to do this.
And then I'm like, okay, wait,wait, I'm sorry, I'm just, I'm
having a moment, I'll try to bebetter, like it's automatically.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And I will tell you that that.
I'm sorry, I'll try to bebetter.
That's incorrect for you andyour.
Oh, okay Then if your body,because you're you're, you're
welcome.
I have an automatic no or yeahand that's, and that's.
That is how the sacred works,okay, and almost bypasses the
mind.
Mine has nothing to do with it.
Your body says something andyou're like, oh, let me know.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
But I do that, you're right.
I feel bad.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Don't feel bad, because your body is telling you
and I'll do an exercise withyou Think about any situation
that you have said no toinitially, and then you flip
around and you say yes, to thinkabout how screwed up the
situation is that you end up in.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Always, always, that is because I'm like always yes,
I need an example.
I know I get, I get, I will getmessed up.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And that is because your body yeah.
Frustrated is the signature foryou, for us.
You'll immediately feel thisfrustration and that.
So, if you're always frustrated, you're living in what we call
in human design, the not self.
It's when you are not beingyourself.
It is the sign from your bodythat whatever you're doing is
not an alignment for you.
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When you're doing what is analignment for you, this feeling
that you should fill in yourbody is complete and total
satisfaction.
You're dissatisfied, you'recool.
So now?
Now, what I would tell you withhuman design is experiment.
So let yourself have thoseresponses, those yes or no
responses.
Your sacral is going to respondto yes or no, this or that type
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of situations.
So if I say to you, rachel,where do you want to go for
dinner?
I have no idea where I want togo for dinner.
But if I say to sacred fish,one of those give you a response
Boom, that is the right answerfor you.
That's the right answer for you.
And just because something is ano right now doesn't mean in
three weeks it will still be ano.
You can always revisit those noresponses.
(35:14):
But you can revisit those yesresponses, because things that
were a no for me a year ago noware yes, so it's not no forever,
it's no for this moment in time.
Right now.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
And to tune into my body and how I'm feeling, and if
I'm in a state of frustration,then I'm not living where I need
to be.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I need to be a moment of satisfaction, absolutely.
And every there's fivedifferent energy types.
Kill me human design people,because I mean human design.
Traditionalists will say thereare four, there are five, but
there are five different energytype and each different energy
type has a different way of likeinteracting with the world.
It's not a response foreveryone, right?
(35:56):
If you're a projector, if youknow you're waiting for an
invitation, and that's signatureemotion that the projectors
feel is they feel bitter.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Oh, interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, if you're a manifest or the signature
emotion that they're not self isanger, but when they're on,
when they're in the rightenvironment, it's peace for a
projector.
When they're feeling you know,recognize and all that good
stuff, they feel success.
They feel successful.
They feel great, right?
So everyone has their ownindividual way that they're
(36:27):
designed to feel when they'renot being themselves and when
they are being themselves.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
And then I'll also go ahead.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
No, no, no, no.
You go ahead.
I'm like you're talking.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Since you're a reading person, the other thing
that I'll drop on you as a sixto which is what made, which
made me like go straight intohuman design.
So how often in your life haveyou been told so I don't know
why you need all this alone time.
Well, you know everyone peoplein your space and you know
everyone people around but youdo want people around, but it
has to be on your terms and thatoften, that's it.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
So I will say, when I see the hermit in my line or
what I think, that's what it is,100%.
I thrive on being alone.
I don't leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
You'll tell you why.
That is why People don't leaveyou alone is because.
So what happens is a six to.
We're both six, six, twos iswhen we take the alone time.
It can become really aimbalance, really really quickly
, because we will find ourselvesso content that we don't.
We're not interacting withpeople, we're barely responding
to texts.
We're doing all these things.
This two line has to be calledback out into the world.
(37:34):
So when people are reachingback out to you, it's saying
you've had enough alone time,come back up to the world.
But that alone time is not forus just to completely disconnect
and not have any time withanyone.
It's for us to sit down andintegrate wherever we've been
experiencing.
And then you'll find yourselfin this position, as a six line,
which is your conscious line.
You find yourself in this wherepeople are always looking at
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you and people are well, what isfor?
Let's Rachel knows.
Let's ask Rachel, right, let'stalk to her.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
She knows what to do.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Always.
The six line is the role modelline.
You don't have to try to be arole model.
People just look at your lifeand you naturally role model
things to them and I can tellyou I'll ask a question that
you're always been told you'renot supposed to ask someone.
Are you over 28 years old?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Okay, perfect.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I'm older than you, Larry.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
You don't look it.
You do not look it.
But the first 28 years of yourlife I also say this to you you
lived your life as a three, as aline three like myself, like
any six line, which means youdid a lot of trial and error,
you tried a lot of things, youmade a lot of public mistakes
(38:46):
and you're like why can't I stopmaking, I can't stop screwing
up?
And it's because those first 28years of your life you were
supposed to try everything out.
Because what happens at 28 iswe go up on what we call the
roof and human design.
We have all this experience inus and now we know what does
work and what doesn't work.
And we're looking down from thiselevated perspective on the
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roof.
Literally.
Just think about being on aroof and looking down and we can
see everything from everyoneand we can say, oh yep, that's
not gonna work, that's not gonnawork.
I wouldn't do that.
But it's hard to call us offthe roof.
If you have to, if you call usoff the roof, it better be for a
good damn reason, like ifyou're getting in our space and
you're like really having uscome down and explain something
to you, you better have a gooddamn reason for that.
(39:30):
And then, as you enter like 48years old, we actually naturally
come down off the roof and westart interacting with the world
and we have all of this wisdomand all of these insights and
all of this stuff to share withpeople.
But, people will come to you.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I'll be coming off the roof in two years.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Okay, so you should actually be feeling the energy
of that right now.
It's kind of like you'll startgetting this little restless,
like, okay, it's time to dosomething.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I am getting restless .
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, cause you've been on the roof for since
you've been 28,.
Right?
So now it's time to come downand you have all this wisdom and
all this insight, everything toshare with people, because
everything you had and you wentthrough that first 28 years and
even through your 30s, andyou're up to right now.
Right, you turned it, you toreit up, you turned it into wisdom
, you ingested it, you took thatspecial alone time that we need
(40:17):
and you're like okay, this ishow life works, this is how
things go.
Okay, and it's a very specificto you how do I want to show up
in the world?
How do I see the world?
The thing about it is here'sthe crazy thing is, you're like
I don't have the answers peopleare looking for.
I can only tell you what'sworking for me.
Right, right.
That's all you, that's allyou're intended to do.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
It's to tell people what works for you.
You might be the guru on thehill that everyone comes to, but
you might not have that answerthey're looking for.
But if they come to you and youfeel that response, say yeah,
I'll share this with them, thatyes or no response, right, Start
with them.
But don't tell them what to do.
And that's the biggest thingfor the six weeks, because we're
like we have all this knowledgethat was come to us and we will
(41:02):
tell you.
We're not going to tell youwhat to do.
We will share with you what'shappened and what we see, but
what you do with thatinformation after you take it
from us, that's on you.
We have.
It has nothing to do with us.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I 100% resonate with that.
I always say to my clients look, I am going to be a mentor for
a little while, but ultimatelyyou're going to have to ride the
bike on your own, like.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
So can like a true six time.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Larry, you are so amazing.
If anyone is interested inbooking a session learning more
about you, you have an amazingwebsite.
Where is the best place forthem to go to?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Go over to Paralary.
That's P-A-R-A, l-a-r-r-ycom,and you can send me an email
message there or you can book areading there.
You can get me on Instagramofficially.
Underscore Larry, I suck atsocial media.
It's not something that Iactually respond to using human
design language.
I really don't respond tosocial media that well, so I
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check it maybe once every threeweeks of month.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
So if you get me there, yes.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
So if you get me there, you're like I've sent him
a message.
He hasn't sent anything back.
It's because I probably haven'tchecked it.
So email me.
And you can email me at Larryat Paralarycom.
I'll see that because it comesautomatically over.
But if you're going to send mean Instagram message, be
prepared to wait.
I would much rather you hit thewebsite or just shoot me an
email.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
I love that.
And for our final question, canyou maybe share a piece of
advice or wisdom for ourlisteners who are seeking to
enhance their spiritual journeyand personal growth?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I'll say something a lot of spiritual teachers won't
like, and it's this if you'regoing to dive into spirituality,
do it with balance, Becausewhat a lot of spiritual people
do and this is pretty muchpretty much every spiritual
teacher that I run across theyteach so much heavy spirituality
that they're actually teachinga different brand of escapism.
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So spirituality becomes itreplaces alcoholism, it replaces
drugs, it replaces sex, itreplaces these things.
You are not exempt from thehuman experience.
So, yeah, you can be spiritualand you can do all your
affirmations, all that goodstuff, but you're going to have
to live, and you're going tohave to live a real life and the
real world.
You are not exempt from thehuman experience.
So do not put all of your cardsin the spiritual bucket,
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because I promise you that isthe way to introduce the most
resistance and non-manifestationinto your life.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
That is a really profound piece of ice and it
almost likens it to spiritualbypassing.
Like you, gotta live theexperience Well.
Larry, I want to thank you so,so much for coming to the
Spiritual Spotlight Series.
I am definitely going to haveyou back on when your book is
coming out, so thank you again.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Absolutely.
Thank you so much for having me.
Hello everyone, welcome to our spiritual
spotlight series.
Today I am joined by LarryArmstead II.
He is an ecology-certified lifecoach, divine human design
founder, certified mindfulnessteacher, quantum rakey certified
emotional freedom techniquepractitioner, tedx speaker which
is amazing an author.
Larry, thank you so much forcoming on the spiritual
(00:24):
spotlight series.
I am so happy you're here today.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Thank you for having me.
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
So for the first question how did you first
discover your passion for humandesign and life, spiritual, life
coaching?
Those are two big, heavy things.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh gosh, they kind of feed each other actually.
So if we look at the chronologyof that, spiritual life
coaching comes first and thenhuman design comes.
I've always been.
I was born on this planet as alittle spiritual guy.
My birthday is in three weeks,so 41 years ago.
(01:03):
I was born as just a littlespiritual guy, right, but I
didn't know what to do with it.
Growing up, and about 14, 15years old I had an experience
where I first saw the death ofmy oldest brother in graphic
detail of what was going tohappen, and I saw it about a
year before it happened and itkind of turned everything on and
(01:29):
I was never like I didn't golooking for it.
I wasn't, like you know, inactive meditation or anything
like looking for it.
It happened to me, right, andonce that light was on I
couldn't turn it off.
So I got extremely curiousabout, you know, after he passed
I was about 16 years old.
I got curious and you know thisis 1999.
So I went to a library and justchecked out every book on
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spirituality, witches, ghosts,mediumship, anything.
That entire section I prettymuch owned.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Same same yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And it was absolutely .
And it was the time where theinternet was an infant right,
because it's 1999.
So it was the time you couldalso, you know, check out 15
library books at a time.
And I grew up in a veryspiritual Christian household
and so I was kind of in thecloset in two kinds of ways at
that time, and because I waslike, how am I parents are going
(02:23):
to feel about me having allthis stuff in their house, right
?
I started reading tarot andthen, you know, I had friends
all over the country.
I started doing readings forthem and then I had one friend
say, have you ever thought aboutdoing this online?
And I was like I'm not gonnapay me for this.
And turns out they do.
Wow.
(02:44):
And then human design actuallyhappened to me right before I
had a major breakup a few yearsago.
It had been on my radar and Iwas curious, but I wasn't like
invested.
I was like nope, I already havetarot, I have Oracle, I have
everything else that youmentioned at the top of the
podcast.
I don't need another modality,surely not.
(03:07):
And one night, you know, in thedeep, sunken place of the
breakup that you know happens toany of us that I'm going
through that.
I pulled open the human designapp that I had on my phone and I
saw myself and I was like, ohmy God, this explained so much
and I went just deep, straightdown the rabbit hole.
(03:30):
And I have been down thatrabbit hole ever since.
The biggest thing for me withhuman design is like I've been
trying to disprove that it works, and every time I try to
disprove it it doubles itselfdown.
I'm like, no, this is actuallya real thing.
So that's how I got here.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Wow, I want to say one thing that you mentioned.
You suffered some traumaticlosses, philosophy brother, a
traumatic breakup.
Would you say that these lossesare rocket fuel for your
ascension process?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
In a way that I've never thought about it the way,
but in a way, yes, absolutelythey're kind of the impact point
or the catalyst for thingshappening, in a way that I had
not even considered before.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So, yes, yeah, the only reason I bring it up is
that my brother committedsuicide many years ago and it's
okay.
Same to your brother too forhis loss.
And it's interesting when youlook back at you know, because
we're both spiritual people,you've been on this path a long
time, you know, like thesepivotal moments where we've had
these significant losses ortraumas.
(04:34):
You know that it's now like, oh,that's, this happened as part
of my ascension process.
Yes, it's a terrible loss, I'mvery sorry, but it's like now I
can look back on it and be like,okay, it's okay.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I mean yeah, that makes sense, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So go ahead, no no, no, no, go for it.
No, go for it.
I'm extra back and call, go forit.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Larry and our now best friends.
Okay, guys, absolutely so, andI will say this too, because
I've noticed some challenges inlearning human design.
So what challenges did you facein translating the complex
language of human design intoeveryday terms?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Oh gosh, it is one of the Okay, so again it's like
speaking Greek.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And that's I.
So I told my best friendactually introduced me to human
design.
I was like it's like someonespeaking in Chinese.
Yes, it was like I see allthese shapes and characters.
Yes, what does this mean?
The triangles and the squaresand the diamonds, and this is
colored in.
But this is open and you havethese lines going here, that
what does this mean?
And it took for me to kind oflike really immerse myself in it
(05:46):
.
It was kind of like when Ilearned Spanish, basically in
high school.
It was just like totallyimmersion, right Just to figure
out what's going on.
And you realize that humandesign is made up of several
different spiritual modalities.
And once you see the actualspiritual modalities, like the
Jewish Kabbalah in the each team, and you know astrology Eastern
(06:08):
and Western astrology you seeall of these components and I'm
like, oh, I can break theseapart and see where they
actually came from, and then Ican see how they've been
synthesized together to makesomething new.
And that was, that was thebreakthrough moment for me.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I love that.
To be honest, I've neverconsidered it like several
different modalities blendedinto one.
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, the, the, the Kabbalah tree of life's there,
like all of these modalities arethere and you just have to kind
of get to where you gravitateto in human design because, like
you said, it's one of the mostconfusing things because I mean
you could 75 websites.
You type in human design inGoogle right now you get 75
different websites that aregoing to explain it in 75
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different ways.
But the best way I always tellpeople is, if you come across
human design, get it is, get areading from a design reader
like myself, so we can actuallybreak it down for you, because
you you will come to find whenyou read on human design
generally online, it's, it'svery generalized, right, but
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your design is actually aboutyou specifically.
So it's like cool that all thisother stuff means something,
but what does this mean about mespecifically?
How does this apply to me?
Right, that's when you'll startmaking the connection for the
body.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I love that and I think for also it sounds like
it's almost a deeper version ofof astrology, like a lot of
people really go into astrologyand whatnot, I guess can you
maybe explain how it's adifferent?
I know you're also an astrologycoach, so maybe I'm not asking
the right question.
(07:45):
So it's almost like cause Ihave a friend who was obsessed
with astrology and I'm alwayslike don't tell me what house my
blah blah blah is in.
I don't care Like it's justit's so stressful to me about
the whole Pluto going intoAquarius and where is it?
I'm like I don't want to die,like that's how I feel.
Like it just it comes acrosslike that.
Like it just your life is goingto be dramatic.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, so for me I'm not an astrology guy.
I guess the one thing that Ihaven't I'm not delved into that
, but my best friend she is nowin astrology.
I'm more the numerology typeperson.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Oh, okay, I like numerology yes.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yes, but human design has a huge astrological
component.
Wow, and it's about.
So the planets go through 64different expressions of each
planet.
Right, they call these planetsgates and human design.
And there are certain planetsthat you have the certain
configurations based on yourdesign charts, that you have
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consistent access to this typeof energy, and each planet, kind
of like an astrology, speaks ona different thing, like mercury
, for example, is your messageto communicate to the masses, or
right, and everyone has,everyone has a mercury placement
, so you'll get to see whatthose placements are and how
they line up in your chart andall those things.
So I mean, with human designit's you can break it apart.
(09:07):
By the same time, the humandesign it blends all the systems
together into this brand newsynthesis and you have to kind
of suspend what you know butalso apply what you know.
It's kind of a trade off inyour head a little bit.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I love that.
So in your book, Where's myPizza?
You talk about the power ofexpectation.
How has this concept played arole in your personal and
professional life?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
So it's actually very funny because this is one part
where I can actually blend humandesign here, so you guys can
see this.
So in human design, I have thechannel 4130 and a channel.
This channel, basically, is thechannel of expectations.
So I would I'm going to extendbased on my design, to look at
everything in my life based oncertain expectations.
Right, and this is before Iknew human design, design was a
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thing.
So the fact that I wrote a bookon expectations and that's one
of the major energy channels inmy chart is amazing, right.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yes, even before you.
Oh my goodness, how profound isthat.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Absolutely.
Your design is always workingin the background, whether you
know it or not, right?
Yes, and with Where's my Pizza?
When I wrote that, it wasduring a meditation I heard very
clearly in life, we don't getwhat we want, we get what we
expect.
And I'm like, I'm sorry, what?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Hell yeah, excuse me.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, right.
And from there it was just kindof like okay, so what do I do
with that?
In spirit, it was like, well,what are the things you actually
expect to happen?
Yeah, and I started looking ateverything and I'm like, oh okay
, well, I expect that you know,I'm going to have a one place to
lay my head and all thosethings.
So I'm actually looking forthose things.
(10:51):
And it's everything in yourlife that you actually look for,
even the things you look forsubconsciously, that you're not
aware of.
So the big thing is like okay,well, I'm stuck in a job that I
hate.
How am I expecting that?
Well, you're expecting to go toa job that you hate every day.
So you're going to fulfill theexpectation that you placed upon
that job every single day untilyou expect something different.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Wow, that is so interesting.
It doesn't, and it's almostlike it doesn't matter if it's
negative or positive.
It's neutral, like no matterwhat your expectation is and
what's in the subconscious andwhat you know and what you don't
know.
That's fascinating.
It's so fascinating.
You wrote a book aboutsomething that's actively in
your human design chart.
(11:34):
Like that's so cool.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's so cool.
So Rachel is speechless.
So can you maybe describe andI'm sure you have hundreds of
these a moment where youwitnessed in a client's life
through your coaching, that theyhad like a very
transformational experience or aprofound moment?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Oh yeah, I had a coaching client last week,
actually One of my favoritecoaching clients.
I won't, of course, not goingto drop any name or information,
but this coaching client cameto me and was like Larry, I
realize that I love living in ahouse that is dusty and clothes
aren't folded and all thesethings, and I'm like say more.
(12:20):
And she was like that'sactually the subconscious
expectation that I have, that Ilook, I wouldn't do it if I
didn't love it.
I'm getting a benefit frombeing here because I get to, I
get to talk about my husbandthat he's not doing enough, I
get to complain about this.
This isn't happening.
I get to complain all thesethings and I, larry, I actually
enjoy that.
He getting people to that placewhere they can like listen to
(12:44):
what's going on, they canobserve what's going on and they
can say, oh, my God, I actuallydo get some enjoyment out of
this, because what you'll noticeis that I'm not on a trauma
that's unresolved in your body,Wow, yeah.
So for me like if I use my ownself as an example kind of
veering away from the client Iam a almost 41 year old gay man
(13:04):
living in the Midwest and one ofthe biggest things for me was,
a couple of summers ago,realizing that I enjoy being a
homophobic gay man.
I would not go to a pridefestival because I wasn't like
those people I'm not gonna weara rainbow like those people.
I'm better than those people.
And I was like, oh shh I, thisis interesting.
(13:25):
And so it broke my heartinitially, Of course, Like into
a thousand pieces, Cause I'mlike this is my community, but
I'm completely judging thiscommunity.
But that unlocked another thing,because now I enjoy not only
being homophobic but I enjoyjudging it.
I'm like, okay, so how am Ijudging other people?
How do I enjoy that?
And it was like, oh, I'm betterthan everyone.
I'm better than my siblingsbecause I didn't do the things
(13:46):
that they said.
I'm better than my brother whopassed because I didn't do so.
As you build up all of thesethings in your head, even on a
subconscious level, and thesethings are like little children
at the playground they need tocome out and they need to play
on all the rides.
So I was like you know what?
We're gonna let thesejudgmental, homophobic parts
play, because it's the only waywe're gonna transmute the energy
.
(14:06):
I let them come out and play.
I let myself be as judgmentalas I could in my journal.
Everywhere I would let thethoughts that I would typically
resist just pop to the forefrontof my head.
And what I found is this themoment that I let those things
out and play, they calmed downbecause they tucked their energy
out.
And now I went to my firstpride festival, wore the rainbow
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stuff and had a fantastic timezero judgment.
But that couldn't have happenedwithout me bringing that online
and just letting that play out.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I have to say I commend you in actually being so
vulnerable and open with youknow that's something that some
people don't want to admit tohaving you know within
themselves, like the shadow sideand the judgment side, and, as
you're saying it, it'sresonating with me.
I'm like I bet you I've got ajudgy bitch inside of me, like
(15:00):
you know what I mean I know, Ido, and as you're saying I'm
like, oh, they need to, thisneeds to come out to play.
but I'm not going to know unlessI have a human design reading
Like you know what I mean.
Like I'm probably not going toknow what's tucked in and hidden
in, and you know, that'sfascinating that you allow that
to come up.
You identified it and thenyou're like all right, bitches,
(15:21):
let's go.
Like you know what I mean, andthen you tuckered that energy
out and now it's shifted anaspect of your life for the more
positive.
That's such a beautiful thing.
Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
You're very welcome.
It's kind of what I find kindof like if we don't do the
emotional work, if we don't letthose pieces like number one, if
you're going to do this kind ofwork, don't do it by yourself.
I mean, I had some support toyou know, do it with right, like
I work with the coach.
I did all the things I.
You know people are like oh,you're a coach, you work with
(15:53):
the coach.
Absolutely Every coach, everycoach and every therapist.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yes, yes, as a healer , I have a healer.
As a healer, I have a coachApps 100%, like you always need
to be evolving.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Absolutely.
There's always somebody thatknows a little bit more than you
or has another resource thatyou don't have in your toolbox.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Right, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And so for me, when you do this kind of work, it is
literally you have to havesomeone to hold that space for
you, because you don't want, youdon't want to take that you
know that judgmental I.
You said you had the judgmentalbit.
You said I called him, I waslike you're a royal dick.
That's what I referred tomyself as right.
And you know I don't want to.
I don't want to turn thatoutward and like, look at my
family and be in a situationwith them and be like I'm so
(16:34):
much better than you.
Yeah, I hate you.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I didn't want to do that right, Because I don't want
to hurt someone.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Right, but that energy needed somewhere to go
because it's a trauma responsethat never got resolution Right,
so it's kind of bad.
You have to have the space forsomewhere to go, someone to hold
that container open for youthat you can pour that into.
And then you have to be willingto do the work because, let's
face it, you're going to meetwith your coach once a week or
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your therapist once a week foran hour.
There's not a whole hell of alot that we as coaches or your
therapist can do in an hour, butyou're with yourself 24 hours a
day, so you got to be willingto do the work as well.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Can you maybe explain how yourapproach to human design differs
from traditional methods?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yes, so I term what I do divine human design, and
that is because, yeah, thank you, and it's because I can't unsee
all of the years of spiritualstuff that I've seen occur in my
life.
I can't discount it as unreal,I can't discount it as an
(17:38):
illusion, and you will find anytraditionally human design
people please cover your earsright now, because I'm going to
say something very heretical butyou will find that in
traditional human design, thefounder of human design would
say you know, the spiritualaspect is an illusion.
And I'm like, no, it's not, itabsolutely isn't.
And so when I spoke at thehuman design conference in
(18:01):
September of 2023, I spoke onthis very topic how the
spirituality is not an illusionand how I actually traced back
through concepts like the law ofone and from the tarot and from
, of course, the miracles.
And how.
The same voice, because if you,if you've read, of course, the
miracles, it speaks of the voicethat spoke, right.
(18:21):
Yeah, same thing in the law ofone, it speaks of the voice,
right, human design also has thesame voice, and that voice,
across all three systems,carries the same signature and
the same vibration.
It says the exact same things.
And I was like it's not anillusion, the spirituality is
not an illusion.
So I take all the tools thathave my toolbox and I blend them
into what I call divine humandesign.
(18:41):
And I will say you know, a lotof people after that conference
came to me and said, oh my God,thank you so much for not
letting the spiritual aspect ofthis go.
Yes, and I can't let it go.
So I can only blend what I seeout into the bigger part of
human design, because humandesign itself is a synthesis and
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it's a mutative science is whatthey call it right.
So bringing the spiritual in ismutating human design in the
way that it's intended to go,because the founder is no longer
with us, so he was only able tocarry the torch so far.
Someone else has to carry thetorch, so someone else has to
carry the torch and then someoneelse has to carry.
So I don't have all the answersin divine human design.
(19:26):
Someone else is going to takedivine human design and they're
going to mutate and evolve.
That yes.
I'm so excited to see where allthese offshoots are going,
because they all go together.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I love that.
I love how divine human designthat's really amazing, like I
really like that and I like thatyou're still incorporating the
spiritual aspect of it.
I couldn't imagine somebodysaying it's an illusion, like
that just seems so disconnectedfrom us as a divine being having
a human experience.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
What you'll see in human design, though, is there's
this polarity that happens inthe human experience, right when
people say, oh, we're allspiritual, and then you have
people say, no, it's all body,and the answer is it's neither.
It's somewhere in the center ofboth Right and human design is
the polar swing from the worldspiritual beings.
They say, no, it's all the body, no, it's a combination of both
(20:18):
.
That makes sense.
Do I have the exact dead centerof this?
I do not.
Did he have the exact deadcenter of this?
No, but what he brought in waswhat his nervous system was able
to contain for him, and hisnervous system was able to bring
through that.
We're neglecting the bodymechanics of it.
All Right, so that's what humandesign is for, but we can't we
also can't neglect the spiritualend of it as well.
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So we got to, we got to blend.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I love that.
So I know that part of thething you said you're going to
do a mini demonstration of ahuman design reading.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So let me pull your chart.
Goodness guys In the app.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
So I will say that while we were interviewing back
and forth, I really feltcomforted when I got an email
from Larry saying that we'regoing to get along because we
had.
I think we're.
What are you?
You're a competitor.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm a 6'2".
Speaker 1 (21:10):
And I think I'm a 6, something I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You are also a 6'2".
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Guys best friends.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yes, so I love 6'2's and, for people that are
listening, you're like what is a6'2?
A 6'2 is what, in human design,we call your profile and this
is the character that you playin this lifetime, right?
So you are just looking at yourchart.
You are a 6'2 generator.
What does any of that stuffmeans?
(21:40):
This means you're here torespond to life, right?
So you've.
We talked a little bit beforethis podcast about you know what
does the sacral mean and whatdoes all these things mean and
all the good stuff.
So I'm going to ask you what do?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I think it means.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Or what are your big questions, because you have a
lot of interesting stuff goingon here.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
So, to be honest and okay, guys, so I am a reading
whore.
I love getting readings by anytype of reader.
I would be the first to admitthat I and I was like I don't
even know what questions to askfor a human, a divine human
design, and I and I hate to saythat because it makes me sound
like so silly and I guess it'smore like I don't know- no, it's
(22:32):
so.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I'll give you a couple of things here, just
based on what I'm saying at yourchart, just kind of a general
overview.
He's like I wish it was.
So.
The human design chart iscomposed of nine different
energy systems, and two of themhappen kind of above the neck.
So if you're familiar with the,the chakra system, right, human
design splits off into ninedifferent centers instead of
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seven.
So you have the familiar, thehand, the asana, you also have
the throat, then you have the Gcenter and the ego, which those
two have split off from oneanother.
Okay.
Then you have the solar plexus,you have the sacral, you have
the root, and then you also havethe spleen center.
All that is Greek, right.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So the big thing for you is I'm looking at your chart
here and you have a completelyopen solar plexus.
The solar plexus is in humandesign, is responsible for
emotions and emotionalregulations.
So I'm just going to go aheadand say what I'm going to say
here, that for you, you're goingto tend to be dramatic.
You wear your.
You wear your heart on yoursleeve Very much so I was going
(23:39):
to air away from the worddramatic, but you wear, you
definitely wear your heart onyour sleeve and you can tend
toward probably what peoplewould consider overreaction.
I hate that word becausethere's no such thing as an
overreaction.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I would say I'm hyper sensitive.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You are very hyper sensitive and that's because
your solar plexus is completelyopen.
So that means when you feel anemotion, you feel the emotion
ten times bigger in your body.
If you're happy, you're thehappiest person that has ever
been alive.
If someone has pissed you off,it is the hellfires of Satan
himself coming into the room.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Right, so hard to be good.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
But that's how you feel all emotion and that's the
way you're designed to feelemotion.
It is this big, explosiveemotion for you, no matter if
it's a good emotion or it's aneutral motion or some bad
emotion, and you feel it.
You're sensitive, you're goingto get your feelings hurt very
easily.
You're going to tend to getthat's going to happen for you
very easily.
And then, once you you'll findthat if you repress the
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expression of that emotion, ofthat emotion, the frustration
that you continue to get underis going to mount and get bigger
and you're going to becompletely frustrated until you
actually break at the seams.
And then it's going to be, it'sjust going to come at you,
right?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And anybody that's in .
Yeah, I'm very much a.
We need to get this out rightnow, or or I'm good, I'm done,
like I can't have animosity.
I don't like festering energy.
I'm like let's just clean thisslate here and now, because I
don't like this tension.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
And here's what's the interesting part about your
open solar plexus is is, onceyou have got it out, you're cool
, you're cool, you are, you'regood.
And people coming to you threedays later you're like and
they're rehashing and you'relike, oh, maybe we talked about
this.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I'm good, we're good, and they're so hung on to it.
Right, you're so good, this isso amazing, I'll be, I'll be
over and done with something infive minutes.
I'm like if we've talked aboutit, we're good.
Moving on, life is good.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Now and I'll just oppose that with someone like me
who has a defined solar plexuscenter, right.
So this might help you a littlebit in your life.
So if you, if you run acrosssomeone with a defined solar
plexus center like myself, wehave what we can call the
emotional wave.
So we are always feelingemotion.
So literally, imagine us on onthe ocean, right, even on the
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prettiest day at the ocean, youcan still see waves rippling on
the water.
They're not dramatic waves oranything like that, but they're
still moving on the water.
The water is not still.
That is how we are alwaysfeeling.
We're always feeling something.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Whereas you guys, I call it, you won't find, you
won't.
You won't find this term in ahuman design.
You'll find it when I releasemy book on it.
But I call you guys.
You have what I call emotionalimpact.
I liken it to a comet rippingthrough the atmosphere and it
hits the surface and throws upall this dust and stuff, but it
settles and it's done us.
The comet hits the water andit's waves and ripples.
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Yes, and we're throwingoverboard and we got all this
salt water in our face.
We're trying to figure outwhich way is up.
We can't see, we have noclarity, we don't know, and the
only thing that we can do is wecan ride the wave.
That's the only thing that wecan do.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
That is fascinating, like it makes me really have to
be more conscious of, maybe, howmy emotional reactions are if
somebody is constantly riding awave.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Like that sounds intense.
I don't know how to not be Like.
So people that are emotionallydefined, I find feel really
misunderstood.
And we're about 50% of thepopulation.
So there's 50% of you guyswalking out there that have no
emotional definition.
There are 50% of us walkingaround with emotional definition
.
I wouldn't know how to survivewithout emotional definition.
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My fiance is completelyemotionally open, the most
sensitive soul you will evermeet.
It's his feelings hurt likethis.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yes.
Right but for me it's like youcould text somebody and I'd be
like who are you texting?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, right, and for him it's very much that and for
me it's the emotionally.
That are people that areemotionally defined.
We have these.
We can often be accused offeeling, of seeming like we
don't care enough or that we'renot in it.
No, it's just because we're soused to being on the wave of the
water.
It's just like we're used tothis.
(28:01):
Yes, so you get really bigemotional expression out of us
and you can also see in us.
Those people are like oh my God, you're bipolar.
Are they bipolar or are theyemotionally defined?
Because there are seven days inthe emotional solar plexus that
can change how this wavecalibrates, right?
So some people can have thesereally big crashing waves, right
(28:24):
, it wouldn't make them seembipolar, but they're not.
They just haven't had a way orsomeone to tell them this is
what your wave is about, this iswhat you're feeling, this is
how you're feeling, this is howyou're supposed to process this.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That makes so much sense Now, you just said
something during this when yourbook comes out.
So are you writing a book ondivine human design?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I am.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
What is it coming out ?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I don't know.
So I'm right, it's a book andit's gonna have a tarot deck
with it.
It's about let's see where am Iat in the tarot deck.
I've done the major arcana,I've done the cups and I've done
the wands.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I am so excited Cause , honestly, in this brief time
that we've been together, youhave made divine human design
make so much more sense than andI honestly, like I've been
exposed to this for a year.
So it's not that it's not new,but the way that you were making
it understand to me, I'm like,oh okay, then this makes sense.
(29:23):
I do have a question.
I don't know if you can tell usin human design, sure, so I
really love doing interviews.
I love being a podcast host.
I love doing interviews.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It's in your design.
It's in your design.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Larry would love to do this.
I'm a registered nurse who runsa doctor's office in my
full-time gig, but I would loveto have this show or some type
of show be my gig, cause I'm ahealer and I do readings and all
that kind of fun stuff too.
But is that a possibility in myhuman design chart?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
So let me put your chart back up here.
So you have a defined throatright.
You are here to actually speak.
So the throat center in humandesign is the center for
manifestation right and for you,the way that your throat center
works.
Let me pull up that channelhere that you have.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I love these channels .
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, so you have the channel 1648.
So it's about bringing all yourintuition and all that
expression of an intuition tothe throat so it can actually
get out.
So you actually want to havethat.
You want to actually speak andcreatively use your talents, to
actually bring things into theworld.
And it has to be with what youidentify with.
(30:41):
It can't be just any randomthing.
And that's to be what lightsyou up and what brings you joy,
because if it's not what lightsyou up and if it's not what
brings you joy, it is destinedto fail.
You will lose interest and youactually want to be turned on by
it.
So I would almost venture to saythat, with you being a healer
and the nursing thing, let melook at, let me scroll back up.
Okay, with you being a healer,with you being the nursing thing
, you have a lot ofindividuation in your chart, so
(31:03):
you do like the one-on-one kindof connection that you get with
people.
And then you have oh, you havethe 515 as well.
Oh, my God.
So for you, it's about findinga rhythm that is basically
marching to the beat of your owndrums, a rhythm of your own
life, and then you have theserhythmic extremes that you have
(31:25):
and it's something that youcan't explain to a lot of people
.
It's something that a lot ofpeople don't get about you and
it's like well, you're into thisand you're into that.
Yes, that's because you areresponding to long life, so
absolutely making this yourfull-time gig as a generator.
What you're here to do isyou're here to respond.
So the strategy for doing thatis you're gonna wait to respond,
(31:46):
you're gonna wait for somethingto come into your aura field,
your energy field, and then onceyou're like oh, that makes
sense for me, I have thatresonates with me.
Then it's time to go.
But before you have somethingto respond to, it's time for you
to actually sit and lie andwait, gotcha.
So, and the way you're designedto respond because you have a
(32:08):
Defiant Stake Roll Center isyou're designed to say uh-huh or
other things.
So you will notice in your lifethat you have probably been
told throughout your life useyour words.
Don't say mm-hmm, mm-hmm, sayno, give me an extra word, no,
the sacral is a motor and itmakes that noise automatically
(32:30):
without you doing anything.
And you'll notice it the mostwith food.
Like you get some good food andyou're like mm-hmm-mm, this is
so good, that is your sacralsaying oh my God, this is really
good for me, I like this.
And if someone says, hey,rachel, you want to go out to a
movie and you're like, well, Imean, we can go later.
But the first thing your sacredsay was mm-mm, which means
whatever, whatever reason yourbody says I don't want to do
(32:52):
this.
And those are the responses.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I'm.
I don't mean to laugh, but thisis so dead on because I'm
immediately yes, no, yes, no,yes, no, do you want to like?
And my family gets irritatedwith me because they'll be like,
well, I want to do this.
And then I'm like, okay, wait,wait, I'm sorry, I'm just, I'm
having a moment, I'll try to bebetter, like it's automatically.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And I will tell you that that.
I'm sorry, I'll try to bebetter.
That's incorrect for you andyour.
Oh, okay Then if your body,because you're you're, you're
welcome.
I have an automatic no or yeahand that's, and that's.
That is how the sacred works,okay, and almost bypasses the
mind.
Mine has nothing to do with it.
Your body says something andyou're like, oh, let me know.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
But I do that, you're right.
I feel bad.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Don't feel bad, because your body is telling you
and I'll do an exercise withyou Think about any situation
that you have said no toinitially, and then you flip
around and you say yes, to thinkabout how screwed up the
situation is that you end up in.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Always, always, that is because I'm like always yes,
I need an example.
I know I get, I get, I will getmessed up.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And that is because your body yeah.
Frustrated is the signature foryou, for us.
You'll immediately feel thisfrustration and that.
So, if you're always frustrated, you're living in what we call
in human design, the not self.
It's when you are not beingyourself.
It is the sign from your bodythat whatever you're doing is
not an alignment for you.
(34:31):
When you're doing what is analignment for you, this feeling
that you should fill in yourbody is complete and total
satisfaction.
You're dissatisfied, you'recool.
So now?
Now, what I would tell you withhuman design is experiment.
So let yourself have thoseresponses, those yes or no
responses.
Your sacral is going to respondto yes or no, this or that type
(34:53):
of situations.
So if I say to you, rachel,where do you want to go for
dinner?
I have no idea where I want togo for dinner.
But if I say to sacred fish,one of those give you a response
Boom, that is the right answerfor you.
That's the right answer for you.
And just because something is ano right now doesn't mean in
three weeks it will still be ano.
You can always revisit those noresponses.
(35:14):
But you can revisit those yesresponses, because things that
were a no for me a year ago noware yes, so it's not no forever,
it's no for this moment in time.
Right now.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
And to tune into my body and how I'm feeling, and if
I'm in a state of frustration,then I'm not living where I need
to be.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I need to be a moment of satisfaction, absolutely.
And every there's fivedifferent energy types.
Kill me human design people,because I mean human design.
Traditionalists will say thereare four, there are five, but
there are five different energytype and each different energy
type has a different way of likeinteracting with the world.
It's not a response foreveryone, right?
(35:56):
If you're a projector, if youknow you're waiting for an
invitation, and that's signatureemotion that the projectors
feel is they feel bitter.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Oh, interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, if you're a manifest or the signature
emotion that they're not self isanger, but when they're on,
when they're in the rightenvironment, it's peace for a
projector.
When they're feeling you know,recognize and all that good
stuff, they feel success.
They feel successful.
They feel great, right?
So everyone has their ownindividual way that they're
(36:27):
designed to feel when they'renot being themselves and when
they are being themselves.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
And then I'll also go ahead.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
No, no, no, no.
You go ahead.
I'm like you're talking.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Since you're a reading person, the other thing
that I'll drop on you as a sixto which is what made, which
made me like go straight intohuman design.
So how often in your life haveyou been told so I don't know
why you need all this alone time.
Well, you know everyone peoplein your space and you know
everyone people around but youdo want people around, but it
has to be on your terms and thatoften, that's it.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
So I will say, when I see the hermit in my line or
what I think, that's what it is,100%.
I thrive on being alone.
I don't leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
You'll tell you why.
That is why People don't leaveyou alone is because.
So what happens is a six to.
We're both six, six, twos iswhen we take the alone time.
It can become really aimbalance, really really quickly
, because we will find ourselvesso content that we don't.
We're not interacting withpeople, we're barely responding
to texts.
We're doing all these things.
This two line has to be calledback out into the world.
(37:34):
So when people are reachingback out to you, it's saying
you've had enough alone time,come back up to the world.
But that alone time is not forus just to completely disconnect
and not have any time withanyone.
It's for us to sit down andintegrate wherever we've been
experiencing.
And then you'll find yourselfin this position, as a six line,
which is your conscious line.
You find yourself in this wherepeople are always looking at
(37:57):
you and people are well, what isfor?
Let's Rachel knows.
Let's ask Rachel, right, let'stalk to her.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
She knows what to do.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Always.
The six line is the role modelline.
You don't have to try to be arole model.
People just look at your lifeand you naturally role model
things to them and I can tellyou I'll ask a question that
you're always been told you'renot supposed to ask someone.
Are you over 28 years old?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Okay, perfect.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I'm older than you, Larry.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
You don't look it.
You do not look it.
But the first 28 years of yourlife I also say this to you you
lived your life as a three, as aline three like myself, like
any six line, which means youdid a lot of trial and error,
you tried a lot of things, youmade a lot of public mistakes
(38:46):
and you're like why can't I stopmaking, I can't stop screwing
up?
And it's because those first 28years of your life you were
supposed to try everything out.
Because what happens at 28 iswe go up on what we call the
roof and human design.
We have all this experience inus and now we know what does
work and what doesn't work.
And we're looking down from thiselevated perspective on the
(39:07):
roof.
Literally.
Just think about being on aroof and looking down and we can
see everything from everyoneand we can say, oh yep, that's
not gonna work, that's not gonnawork.
I wouldn't do that.
But it's hard to call us offthe roof.
If you have to, if you call usoff the roof, it better be for a
good damn reason, like ifyou're getting in our space and
you're like really having uscome down and explain something
to you, you better have a gooddamn reason for that.
(39:30):
And then, as you enter like 48years old, we actually naturally
come down off the roof and westart interacting with the world
and we have all of this wisdomand all of these insights and
all of this stuff to share withpeople.
But, people will come to you.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I'll be coming off the roof in two years.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Okay, so you should actually be feeling the energy
of that right now.
It's kind of like you'll startgetting this little restless,
like, okay, it's time to dosomething.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I am getting restless .
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, cause you've been on the roof for since
you've been 28,.
Right?
So now it's time to come downand you have all this wisdom and
all this insight, everything toshare with people, because
everything you had and you wentthrough that first 28 years and
even through your 30s, andyou're up to right now.
Right, you turned it, you toreit up, you turned it into wisdom
, you ingested it, you took thatspecial alone time that we need
(40:17):
and you're like okay, this ishow life works, this is how
things go.
Okay, and it's a very specificto you how do I want to show up
in the world?
How do I see the world?
The thing about it is here'sthe crazy thing is, you're like
I don't have the answers peopleare looking for.
I can only tell you what'sworking for me.
Right, right.
That's all you, that's allyou're intended to do.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
It's to tell people what works for you.
You might be the guru on thehill that everyone comes to, but
you might not have that answerthey're looking for.
But if they come to you and youfeel that response, say yeah,
I'll share this with them, thatyes or no response, right, Start
with them.
But don't tell them what to do.
And that's the biggest thingfor the six weeks, because we're
like we have all this knowledgethat was come to us and we will
(41:02):
tell you.
We're not going to tell youwhat to do.
We will share with you what'shappened and what we see, but
what you do with thatinformation after you take it
from us, that's on you.
We have.
It has nothing to do with us.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I 100% resonate with that.
I always say to my clients look, I am going to be a mentor for
a little while, but ultimatelyyou're going to have to ride the
bike on your own, like.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
So can like a true six time.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Larry, you are so amazing.
If anyone is interested inbooking a session learning more
about you, you have an amazingwebsite.
Where is the best place forthem to go to?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Go over to Paralary.
That's P-A-R-A, l-a-r-r-ycom,and you can send me an email
message there or you can book areading there.
You can get me on Instagramofficially.
Underscore Larry, I suck atsocial media.
It's not something that Iactually respond to using human
design language.
I really don't respond tosocial media that well, so I
(42:00):
check it maybe once every threeweeks of month.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
So if you get me there, yes.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
So if you get me there, you're like I've sent him
a message.
He hasn't sent anything back.
It's because I probably haven'tchecked it.
So email me.
And you can email me at Larryat Paralarycom.
I'll see that because it comesautomatically over.
But if you're going to send mean Instagram message, be
prepared to wait.
I would much rather you hit thewebsite or just shoot me an
email.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
I love that.
And for our final question, canyou maybe share a piece of
advice or wisdom for ourlisteners who are seeking to
enhance their spiritual journeyand personal growth?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I'll say something a lot of spiritual teachers won't
like, and it's this if you'regoing to dive into spirituality,
do it with balance, Becausewhat a lot of spiritual people
do and this is pretty muchpretty much every spiritual
teacher that I run across theyteach so much heavy spirituality
that they're actually teachinga different brand of escapism.
(42:54):
So spirituality becomes itreplaces alcoholism, it replaces
drugs, it replaces sex, itreplaces these things.
You are not exempt from thehuman experience.
So, yeah, you can be spiritualand you can do all your
affirmations, all that goodstuff, but you're going to have
to live, and you're going tohave to live a real life and the
real world.
You are not exempt from thehuman experience.
So do not put all of your cardsin the spiritual bucket,
(43:17):
because I promise you that isthe way to introduce the most
resistance and non-manifestationinto your life.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
That is a really profound piece of ice and it
almost likens it to spiritualbypassing.
Like you, gotta live theexperience Well.
Larry, I want to thank you so,so much for coming to the
Spiritual Spotlight Series.
I am definitely going to haveyou back on when your book is
coming out, so thank you again.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Absolutely.
Thank you so much for having me.
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