What happens when a successful entrepreneur turns soulful coach? We chat with Elle Ebizadeh , a dynamic life and relationship coach, about her transformative journey. From the breakdown of a relationship to the breakthrough of self-discovery, Elle opens up about her path to become a relationship coach.
She shares how learning to befriend her feelings and understanding her needs led to creating a more fulfilling life. If you've ever wondered how to balance professional success with emotional well-being, Elle's insightful perspective is not to be missed.
Moving beyond the personal, Elle doesn't shy away from discussing the overarching issues of isolation and the quest for authentic relationships. She imparts her wisdom on the power of self-forgiveness, the pivotal role of self-care, and her innovative approach to helping clients cultivate meaningful bonds.
Whether you're grappling with loneliness or striving for genuine connections, Elle's strategies offer a beacon of hope. Prepare for an eye-opening conversation that will challenge your perceptions on personal growth, self-discovery, and deeper relationships.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's cute yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hello everyone, Welcome to their spiritual
spotlight series.
Today I am joined by ElleAbusaday.
She is a dynamic life andrelationship coach who has
transitioned from her successfulentrepreneur career to help
others find fulfillment in allaspects of their lives.
That is really impressive, Elle.
Thank you so much for coming onthe spiritual spotlight series.
(00:23):
I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Thank you so much for inviting me.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm somebody who is spiritual, who also works in the
corporate realm, so I find Ilove people who have been in the
corporate world, that havetransitioned over.
I love hearing about theirjourney.
So your transition from a verysuccessful entrepreneur to a
life in relationship coach isintriguing.
Can maybe you take us throughmaybe a pivotal moment or
(00:49):
moments when you realize yourprofessional success wasn't
fully satisfying your soul'syearning?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yes, so I mean I build businesses since I was 28.
My last one was an electronicrecycling company and I had that
for around 12 years and I soldit seven years ago.
So I guess I was always intopersonal development,
(01:18):
understanding spirituality,reading a lot of books and
taking a lot of classes.
But then the moment that Irealized that this is my calling
, to become a relationship coachwas when my relationship of 10
years didn't work out and Irealized that, oh my God, we
(01:40):
don't want the same things.
And we had a conversation and Isaid you know what this is not
working?
And I took some classes I don'tknow if you're familiar with
Mindvalley and through KatherineWoodward Thomas and then I said
, oh my God, then I understoodactually what was my 2% or 5%,
(02:07):
what I did in this relationship.
And then I realized thatthroughout my work experience
all my relationships with myemployees and people that I
worked with was excellent.
But then in the loverelationship there was, like
this, many gaps.
So then I began working onmyself and understanding where
(02:33):
the gaps are was and I kind ofput from my, went back to the
childhood, come back to thepresent moment, and then I
actually cleaned up and I now Iunderstand exactly what I did
wrong in that relationship.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, and I think it's really important that you
know I think, as successfulentrepreneurs you know that are
in relationships like sometimeswe can be so focused on our
career and then ourrelationships kind of fall by
the wayside, and then we'reshocked when it falls apart,
like it's like wait what?
Like you know and I reallyrespect the fact that you know
(03:13):
you unfortunately you had thisbreakdown, but then you're able
to look within.
You found courses and you were,you took accountability and
really shifted that and now youcan empower others to kind of
like look, you can have afulfilling life, a wonderful
relationship.
I think that's just such animportant skill to have for sure
(03:34):
.
Yes, I mean it's.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I realized that I actually to keep that
relationship I actually ignoredmy feelings and my needs and
just to keep it going and then,at the end of the day, if I'm
not fulfilled as a relationship,then why am I even trying?
(03:56):
So yeah, so it was just like,ok, you know, but it was
interesting.
At the beginning I was bitterand angry and hurt and felt very
lonely, and it was throughoutmy working and actually having
my businesses.
I felt alone because I didn'thave that interaction.
(04:21):
I was working full time andmore than full time and you have
your businesses.
It's kind of your life.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So you mentioned that you were working full time and
that you had a transformativejourney of self discovery that
you embarked on to find abalance between the professional
ambitions and emotional wellbeing.
Could you maybe describe somekey moments or experiences
during that journey that werespiritually enlightening for you
?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yes, so I mean, even today I can say I'm a local
colleague.
I am, but at the same time Iquestion myself on a daily basis
that is this what I want to do?
Is this where I want to go?
And I give myself breaks, I goevery morning, I go for a hike.
(05:11):
I mean, there's like self-carestuff that I never did in the
past.
I, if I did, it was just likeso, it was not intentional and
it was just not.
It wasn't like it didn't workfor me.
But now I actually have a greatrelationship with myself.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I mean that's really super important.
Like as it doesn't, even evenif you're a homemaker or you
have a career.
Like I feel like so many of usput self-care to the side and
it's like it's almost a stigmato really take care of yourself,
and it's like, no, if you andI'm sure you feel this now too
Like if I'm not fulfilled andhappy, then how am I going to
(05:55):
provide love and care to otherpeople?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Exactly exactly.
And the other.
The other key thing that workedout for me was I befriended my
feelings, which I could not doin the past.
So if I'm sad, angry, happy,whatever feeling comes up from
the interaction that happensoutside of me, or some incident
(06:19):
happens and some kind oftriggers it's, I have some tools
now that I can.
You know and that's how, what Iteach my clients that it's OK
to just sit with that feeling atleast two minutes, five,
whatever time it takes for youto understand, and so, ok, you
(06:40):
know what.
You're angry or you're sad,it's fine, let's let's look at
that.
What happened?
What do you need?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
now, yeah, no, I mean , you're right, like so many of
us, it's like, oh, it's likewe're afraid to have a feeling,
but no, it's like no, your bodyis telling you something and,
like you're saying, you'redigging in with your clients to
say no, what does this mean?
Let's, let's, let's.
You know, look at the deepermeaning here, the deeper layer.
It's so, so important.
(07:07):
We kind of like I feel like weget on blinders, you know, with
our day to day and it getsuncomfortable to look at, you
know, aspects of our self thatwe might not want to take
ownership of.
How do you perhaps coach yourclients in, you know, really
helping them to havetransformations, while also kind
of I feel like it's integrating, like the dark side with the
(07:29):
light side?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yes, it's a balance part of it.
So I do work with a bunch ofentrepreneurs that they're like
really successful in businessand not in their relationship,
exactly who I used to be.
And it's a balance and it'sjust being so in touch with who
(07:52):
you are and what your needs are,and it's it's it's work, but
it's step by step.
And then it's understanding howyou kind of interacting with
other people, even the movement,even going to the buying
grocery, do you have the eyecontact with other people, do
(08:13):
you say hello or you just likezoom in and out and it's just
you're not open to receiveinteractions and have a
conversation, just a small.
You know, I zoom in and out.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So maybe I need a box of instructions.
So it sounds like you have avery deep understanding of the
significance of true humanconnection.
Can you maybe elaborate on howyou guide your clients in
developing authenticrelationships and why do you
think it's crucial for theirspiritual growth?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I mean the first step is to be understanding who you
are and be okay with where youare and what has happened in the
past.
A lot of clients, includingmyself, have some interactions
in the past life throughouttheir families.
That is not pleasant.
So we go step by step and theforgiveness is part of it, that
(09:12):
understanding that the peoplethat kind of shaped who you are
today.
They didn't really have thoseunderstandings or the tools or
knowings and that's the way thatyou just forgive that, what
happened in the past.
And then let's just start fromtoday and see who you are now
(09:35):
and what.
I give you an example I had aclient who in his 30s he has a
child in the middle of thedivorce and a lot of
interactions with the ex wasabout his interactions with his
dad.
So in a couple of sessions hereally understood how that has
(10:00):
shaped who he is, thoseinteractions.
And then the question I askedhim was that, okay, you have a
three-year-old daughter, are yougoing to also model those
interactions with your childtoday?
Or I mean that was the timethat it hit him but yes, he had
(10:25):
a big, huge, hard, beautiful manthat he needed that kind of
understanding and opening in hisheart.
That was then, and today istoday, and this is the
three-year-old daughter that hehas that he has to work.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You bring up a good point about forgiveness and I
feel like forgiveness for peoplecan be very difficult.
They may not want to forgiveothers for actions that were
done to them or they might notbe willing to forgive themselves
.
I would say that's prettyreally like a really hard
component of your coaching.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
How can you help?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
people really truly to the forgive themselves or to
release the energy of the issuethat happened to them.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Okay, so it's a process and it's a journey and
it takes some time and basicallyyou forgive others because of
for yourself.
It doesn't mean that you haveto have that interaction on a
daily basis.
You know, you just, a lot oftimes I coach my clients to do
(11:40):
like a kind of meditation, kindof forgiveness in their head and
looking at the other personsitting there and they can't
tell the other person exactlywhat has happened and what has
bothered them.
So that release of talking andif even the other person is not
sitting there, that would bevery soothing and at the end of
(12:06):
the day, the energy.
It's all about the energy thatbrings up yeah, that brings up
for when you forgive someone,and then the energy that when
you forgive yourself, then yoube.
When you forgive yourself, thenyou'll be kinder to yourself.
I mean, I had another client soI told him why don't you, I just
(12:28):
invite you to, when you wake upin the morning and when you're
washing your face, look into themirror and just tell yourself
that I love you?
He could not do it for likemany weeks and then I said, but
just, I invite you to just tryevery morning, it's okay, and he
would get very sad and but atthe end of because we worked on
(12:54):
those why he cannot say I loveyou, because he was ashamed of
his behavior and this and a lotof other stuff Then we opened it
up and then we cleaned it outand actually at the end of the I
think we had 10 sessions and hewas able to at least look in
the mirror and say okay, I'mhere with you, I am holding you
(13:22):
on your journey.
The love part didn't come thateasily, but I hope that one day
he can do that.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And I like the fact that you it may not necessarily
like I know that you dorelationship coaching, but
you're also doing coaching forfor the individual to truly kind
of honor themselves, honor themwhere they're at and love
themselves.
And I think have youexperienced a lot of your
clients that, like you said, youhad this one gentleman who
(13:51):
obviously, you know, didn't feellike he was enough and worthy
of love.
Have you had other clients youcoached through that then really
now you're like, oh my goodness, they're, they've empowered the
beautifulness that they are.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yes, and it's you know.
Every client, almost everyclient that I have, we have to
go through that journey ofunderstanding who you are and
actually loving yourself first,and then you can open yourself
up to bring that life, ideallife partner to you.
A lot of people don't know whatvalues they have and what that
(14:27):
values they, you know they wantto have in the other person.
So it just it's a.
I mean, the first few steps arethe self discovery to
understand who you are andembrace who you are and then
open yourself up to bring yourideal partner.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So you bring up values.
So what role do values play inyour coaching methodology and
how do you assist your clientsuncovering their own values, and
why is it such a fundamentalstep towards achieving personal
and professional harmony?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I mean it's, you cannot be dating someone or
going out with someone who wasnot honest.
If that's the value that youconsider that's scary, yes,
that's you.
If you're an honest person andyou want to have another honest
person in your life, so you saythis is about, and if there's
(15:24):
you, if the other person doesn'thave that value, then it's not
going to work.
Even if you like five otherthings is the same thing that
you want, but that, if that'sthe highest level of who, the
value that you want having yourheart then it's not going to
work.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, so do you help your clients to kind of like
uncover.
Look this.
These are the values that meanthe most to me and this is the
values you should be looking foranother partner.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I give them homeworks .
Yes, yes.
So there's a lot of like.
So this is how I work I havethem, I give them homeworks.
There's a question?
The passages that they have toread, and then, when they come
back, we process everythingtogether.
Okay, so then they I mean, onthe questionnaire, it says what
(16:19):
are the values that you have andwhat are the values that you
want in your partner?
And I, you know, I reallyinvite them to go deep, because
that's the time that theyunderstand what has not worked
in the past.
Yeah, what they can invite tocome in today that will work for
them.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, I like that you give them homework.
It's almost like, look, we'regoing to process this together,
but this is work that you'regoing to dig in and do yourself.
It's super important, becauseif you're just coach, if you're
just holding their hand, I don'tknow how much transformation
they're going to be doing.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, it's a commitment, and also, I don't
call it homework, I call it hardwork.
Oh, it has to come from theirheart and they have to commit to
themself.
The first time that we meet, Iasked them what's their
intention of these working usworking together.
(17:16):
And I keep, every time that wemeet we look at that intention.
Sometimes we change it modified, but that intention has to kind
of carry to our those decisionsthat we work together.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
So it sounds like you have like a tailor made package
system for the each client.
Can you maybe tell us a littlebit about the packages or the
programs that you offer for yourclients now?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I coach my clients through calling in the one and
conscious uncoupling book and Ihave seven or 10 or 12 sessions
that I offer.
Actually, I'm putting togethera group coaching at the moment
that is going to be probablyoffered getting the end of
(18:08):
October.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay, awesome.
So by the time this interviewairs, you'll have that coaching
program.
Will you be launching anotherone?
Do you think in 2024?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I am looking into different.
Yes, because I see that as avery successful entrepreneur,
you don't have that much time, Iunderstand it.
So I'm doing, I'm puttingcourses together as a massive
(18:41):
audio and then they can listento it anywhere that they are.
And then there was just like aworksheet that they can just sit
down and then they have time toreflect.
And I also offer, throughoutthose like five or 10 group
coaching sessions, two sessionsthat we can work face to face,
(19:03):
one on one.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah.
So if anyone's interested inmaybe reaching out to you to do
one on one coaching or groupcoaching, or maybe this audio
program with the hard work thatyou're going to be putting
together, where is the bestplace for someone to go to check
you out?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
So I believe in heart to heart relationships, so my
website is heart number twoheart coaching dot org.
So you can find me online andbe happy to work with you.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And any piece of advice that you would give to
somebody who maybe, you know,like you, you kind of went
through this and maybe somebodythat is having a heartbreak or
feeling alone or what is maybe apiece of advice that can, you
know, help them, guide themtowards.
You know, like what you did youwent to courses and read books
any piece of advice you have?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Just keep in mind that this moment and this
heartache, it will pass.
Just be open to receiving lovefrom your loved one, that
they're there to be with you,and then everything else will
work out step by step.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I love that step by step.
That's such beautiful advice.
I think, we forget that.
It's like you know, like yousaid, like you felt isolated and
alone.
Sometimes, you know, and it'slike, wait, I've got you know,
maybe my sister, or maybe my mom, maybe my neighbor, you know,
but not Rachel, who's not goingto talk to the people at the
grocery store.
I'm going to work on that justfor you.
Well, coach, thank you so muchfor coming on the spiritual
(20:41):
spotlight series.
You were wonderful to speakwith and I look forward to
speaking to you again.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Thank you so much.
Have a wonderful day.
That's cute yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hello everyone, Welcome to their spiritual
spotlight series.
Today I am joined by ElleAbusaday.
She is a dynamic life andrelationship coach who has
transitioned from her successfulentrepreneur career to help
others find fulfillment in allaspects of their lives.
That is really impressive, Elle.
Thank you so much for coming onthe spiritual spotlight series.
(00:23):
I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Thank you so much for inviting me.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm somebody who is spiritual, who also works in the
corporate realm, so I find Ilove people who have been in the
corporate world, that havetransitioned over.
I love hearing about theirjourney.
So your transition from a verysuccessful entrepreneur to a
life in relationship coach isintriguing.
Can maybe you take us throughmaybe a pivotal moment or
(00:49):
moments when you realize yourprofessional success wasn't
fully satisfying your soul'syearning?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yes, so I mean I build businesses since I was 28.
My last one was an electronicrecycling company and I had that
for around 12 years and I soldit seven years ago.
So I guess I was always intopersonal development,
(01:18):
understanding spirituality,reading a lot of books and
taking a lot of classes.
But then the moment that Irealized that this is my calling
, to become a relationship coachwas when my relationship of 10
years didn't work out and Irealized that, oh my God, we
(01:40):
don't want the same things.
And we had a conversation and Isaid you know what this is not
working?
And I took some classes I don'tknow if you're familiar with
Mindvalley and through KatherineWoodward Thomas and then I said
, oh my God, then I understoodactually what was my 2% or 5%,
(02:07):
what I did in this relationship.
And then I realized thatthroughout my work experience
all my relationships with myemployees and people that I
worked with was excellent.
But then in the loverelationship there was, like
this, many gaps.
So then I began working onmyself and understanding where
(02:33):
the gaps are was and I kind ofput from my, went back to the
childhood, come back to thepresent moment, and then I
actually cleaned up and I now Iunderstand exactly what I did
wrong in that relationship.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, and I think it's really important that you
know I think, as successfulentrepreneurs you know that are
in relationships like sometimeswe can be so focused on our
career and then ourrelationships kind of fall by
the wayside, and then we'reshocked when it falls apart,
like it's like wait what?
Like you know and I reallyrespect the fact that you know
(03:13):
you unfortunately you had thisbreakdown, but then you're able
to look within.
You found courses and you were,you took accountability and
really shifted that and now youcan empower others to kind of
like look, you can have afulfilling life, a wonderful
relationship.
I think that's just such animportant skill to have for sure
(03:34):
.
Yes, I mean it's.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I realized that I actually to keep that
relationship I actually ignoredmy feelings and my needs and
just to keep it going and then,at the end of the day, if I'm
not fulfilled as a relationship,then why am I even trying?
(03:56):
So yeah, so it was just like,ok, you know, but it was
interesting.
At the beginning I was bitterand angry and hurt and felt very
lonely, and it was throughoutmy working and actually having
my businesses.
I felt alone because I didn'thave that interaction.
(04:21):
I was working full time andmore than full time and you have
your businesses.
It's kind of your life.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So you mentioned that you were working full time and
that you had a transformativejourney of self discovery that
you embarked on to find abalance between the professional
ambitions and emotional wellbeing.
Could you maybe describe somekey moments or experiences
during that journey that werespiritually enlightening for you
?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yes, so I mean, even today I can say I'm a local
colleague.
I am, but at the same time Iquestion myself on a daily basis
that is this what I want to do?
Is this where I want to go?
And I give myself breaks, I goevery morning, I go for a hike.
(05:11):
I mean, there's like self-carestuff that I never did in the
past.
I, if I did, it was just likeso, it was not intentional and
it was just not.
It wasn't like it didn't workfor me.
But now I actually have a greatrelationship with myself.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I mean that's really super important.
Like as it doesn't, even evenif you're a homemaker or you
have a career.
Like I feel like so many of usput self-care to the side and
it's like it's almost a stigmato really take care of yourself,
and it's like, no, if you andI'm sure you feel this now too
Like if I'm not fulfilled andhappy, then how am I going to
(05:55):
provide love and care to otherpeople?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Exactly exactly.
And the other.
The other key thing that workedout for me was I befriended my
feelings, which I could not doin the past.
So if I'm sad, angry, happy,whatever feeling comes up from
the interaction that happensoutside of me, or some incident
(06:19):
happens and some kind oftriggers it's, I have some tools
now that I can.
You know and that's how, what Iteach my clients that it's OK
to just sit with that feeling atleast two minutes, five,
whatever time it takes for youto understand, and so, ok, you
(06:40):
know what.
You're angry or you're sad,it's fine, let's let's look at
that.
What happened?
What do you need?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
now, yeah, no, I mean , you're right, like so many of
us, it's like, oh, it's likewe're afraid to have a feeling,
but no, it's like no, your bodyis telling you something and,
like you're saying, you'redigging in with your clients to
say no, what does this mean?
Let's, let's, let's.
You know, look at the deepermeaning here, the deeper layer.
It's so, so important.
(07:07):
We kind of like I feel like weget on blinders, you know, with
our day to day and it getsuncomfortable to look at, you
know, aspects of our self thatwe might not want to take
ownership of.
How do you perhaps coach yourclients in, you know, really
helping them to havetransformations, while also kind
of I feel like it's integrating, like the dark side with the
(07:29):
light side?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yes, it's a balance part of it.
So I do work with a bunch ofentrepreneurs that they're like
really successful in businessand not in their relationship,
exactly who I used to be.
And it's a balance and it'sjust being so in touch with who
(07:52):
you are and what your needs are,and it's it's it's work, but
it's step by step.
And then it's understanding howyou kind of interacting with
other people, even the movement,even going to the buying
grocery, do you have the eyecontact with other people, do
(08:13):
you say hello or you just likezoom in and out and it's just
you're not open to receiveinteractions and have a
conversation, just a small.
You know, I zoom in and out.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So maybe I need a box of instructions.
So it sounds like you have avery deep understanding of the
significance of true humanconnection.
Can you maybe elaborate on howyou guide your clients in
developing authenticrelationships and why do you
think it's crucial for theirspiritual growth?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I mean the first step is to be understanding who you
are and be okay with where youare and what has happened in the
past.
A lot of clients, includingmyself, have some interactions
in the past life throughouttheir families.
That is not pleasant.
So we go step by step and theforgiveness is part of it, that
(09:12):
understanding that the peoplethat kind of shaped who you are
today.
They didn't really have thoseunderstandings or the tools or
knowings and that's the way thatyou just forgive that, what
happened in the past.
And then let's just start fromtoday and see who you are now
(09:35):
and what.
I give you an example I had aclient who in his 30s he has a
child in the middle of thedivorce and a lot of
interactions with the ex wasabout his interactions with his
dad.
So in a couple of sessions hereally understood how that has
(10:00):
shaped who he is, thoseinteractions.
And then the question I askedhim was that, okay, you have a
three-year-old daughter, are yougoing to also model those
interactions with your childtoday?
Or I mean that was the timethat it hit him but yes, he had
(10:25):
a big, huge, hard, beautiful manthat he needed that kind of
understanding and opening in hisheart.
That was then, and today istoday, and this is the
three-year-old daughter that hehas that he has to work.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You bring up a good point about forgiveness and I
feel like forgiveness for peoplecan be very difficult.
They may not want to forgiveothers for actions that were
done to them or they might notbe willing to forgive themselves
.
I would say that's prettyreally like a really hard
component of your coaching.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
How can you help?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
people really truly to the forgive themselves or to
release the energy of the issuethat happened to them.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Okay, so it's a process and it's a journey and
it takes some time and basicallyyou forgive others because of
for yourself.
It doesn't mean that you haveto have that interaction on a
daily basis.
You know, you just, a lot oftimes I coach my clients to do
(11:40):
like a kind of meditation, kindof forgiveness in their head and
looking at the other personsitting there and they can't
tell the other person exactlywhat has happened and what has
bothered them.
So that release of talking andif even the other person is not
sitting there, that would bevery soothing and at the end of
(12:06):
the day, the energy.
It's all about the energy thatbrings up yeah, that brings up
for when you forgive someone,and then the energy that when
you forgive yourself, then yoube.
When you forgive yourself, thenyou'll be kinder to yourself.
I mean, I had another client soI told him why don't you, I just
(12:28):
invite you to, when you wake upin the morning and when you're
washing your face, look into themirror and just tell yourself
that I love you?
He could not do it for likemany weeks and then I said, but
just, I invite you to just tryevery morning, it's okay, and he
would get very sad and but atthe end of because we worked on
(12:54):
those why he cannot say I loveyou, because he was ashamed of
his behavior and this and a lotof other stuff Then we opened it
up and then we cleaned it outand actually at the end of the I
think we had 10 sessions and hewas able to at least look in
the mirror and say okay, I'mhere with you, I am holding you
(13:22):
on your journey.
The love part didn't come thateasily, but I hope that one day
he can do that.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And I like the fact that you it may not necessarily
like I know that you dorelationship coaching, but
you're also doing coaching forfor the individual to truly kind
of honor themselves, honor themwhere they're at and love
themselves.
And I think have youexperienced a lot of your
clients that, like you said, youhad this one gentleman who
(13:51):
obviously, you know, didn't feellike he was enough and worthy
of love.
Have you had other clients youcoached through that then really
now you're like, oh my goodness, they're, they've empowered the
beautifulness that they are.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yes, and it's you know.
Every client, almost everyclient that I have, we have to
go through that journey ofunderstanding who you are and
actually loving yourself first,and then you can open yourself
up to bring that life, ideallife partner to you.
A lot of people don't know whatvalues they have and what that
(14:27):
values they, you know they wantto have in the other person.
So it just it's a.
I mean, the first few steps arethe self discovery to
understand who you are andembrace who you are and then
open yourself up to bring yourideal partner.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So you bring up values.
So what role do values play inyour coaching methodology and
how do you assist your clientsuncovering their own values, and
why is it such a fundamentalstep towards achieving personal
and professional harmony?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I mean it's, you cannot be dating someone or
going out with someone who wasnot honest.
If that's the value that youconsider that's scary, yes,
that's you.
If you're an honest person andyou want to have another honest
person in your life, so you saythis is about, and if there's
(15:24):
you, if the other person doesn'thave that value, then it's not
going to work.
Even if you like five otherthings is the same thing that
you want, but that, if that'sthe highest level of who, the
value that you want having yourheart then it's not going to
work.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, so do you help your clients to kind of like
uncover.
Look this.
These are the values that meanthe most to me and this is the
values you should be looking foranother partner.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I give them homeworks .
Yes, yes.
So there's a lot of like.
So this is how I work I havethem, I give them homeworks.
There's a question?
The passages that they have toread, and then, when they come
back, we process everythingtogether.
Okay, so then they I mean, onthe questionnaire, it says what
(16:19):
are the values that you have andwhat are the values that you
want in your partner?
And I, you know, I reallyinvite them to go deep, because
that's the time that theyunderstand what has not worked
in the past.
Yeah, what they can invite tocome in today that will work for
them.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, I like that you give them homework.
It's almost like, look, we'regoing to process this together,
but this is work that you'regoing to dig in and do yourself.
It's super important, becauseif you're just coach, if you're
just holding their hand, I don'tknow how much transformation
they're going to be doing.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, it's a commitment, and also, I don't
call it homework, I call it hardwork.
Oh, it has to come from theirheart and they have to commit to
themself.
The first time that we meet, Iasked them what's their
intention of these working usworking together.
(17:16):
And I keep, every time that wemeet we look at that intention.
Sometimes we change it modified, but that intention has to kind
of carry to our those decisionsthat we work together.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
So it sounds like you have like a tailor made package
system for the each client.
Can you maybe tell us a littlebit about the packages or the
programs that you offer for yourclients now?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I coach my clients through calling in the one and
conscious uncoupling book and Ihave seven or 10 or 12 sessions
that I offer.
Actually, I'm putting togethera group coaching at the moment
that is going to be probablyoffered getting the end of
(18:08):
October.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay, awesome.
So by the time this interviewairs, you'll have that coaching
program.
Will you be launching anotherone?
Do you think in 2024?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I am looking into different.
Yes, because I see that as avery successful entrepreneur,
you don't have that much time, Iunderstand it.
So I'm doing, I'm puttingcourses together as a massive
(18:41):
audio and then they can listento it anywhere that they are.
And then there was just like aworksheet that they can just sit
down and then they have time toreflect.
And I also offer, throughoutthose like five or 10 group
coaching sessions, two sessionsthat we can work face to face,
(19:03):
one on one.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah.
So if anyone's interested inmaybe reaching out to you to do
one on one coaching or groupcoaching, or maybe this audio
program with the hard work thatyou're going to be putting
together, where is the bestplace for someone to go to check
you out?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
So I believe in heart to heart relationships, so my
website is heart number twoheart coaching dot org.
So you can find me online andbe happy to work with you.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And any piece of advice that you would give to
somebody who maybe, you know,like you, you kind of went
through this and maybe somebodythat is having a heartbreak or
feeling alone or what is maybe apiece of advice that can, you
know, help them, guide themtowards.
You know, like what you did youwent to courses and read books
any piece of advice you have?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Just keep in mind that this moment and this
heartache, it will pass.
Just be open to receiving lovefrom your loved one, that
they're there to be with you,and then everything else will
work out step by step.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I love that step by step.
That's such beautiful advice.
I think, we forget that.
It's like you know, like yousaid, like you felt isolated and
alone.
Sometimes, you know, and it'slike, wait, I've got you know,
maybe my sister, or maybe my mom, maybe my neighbor, you know,
but not Rachel, who's not goingto talk to the people at the
grocery store.
I'm going to work on that justfor you.
Well, coach, thank you so muchfor coming on the spiritual
(20:41):
spotlight series.
You were wonderful to speakwith and I look forward to
speaking to you again.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Thank you so much.
Have a wonderful day.
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