May 29, 2025 • 51 mins
What if your body processes 40 billion bits of information every second, but your conscious mind can only access 2,000 bits? That's like having $40 billion in your awareness bank account but only being able to spend $2,000. This eye-opening conversation with Mas Mike Zeleznick, founder of VibraVision, reveals how to access vastly more of your untapped potential through a revolutionary approach to awakening your sixth sense.
After spending years collecting black belts across 23 different martial arts disciplines, Mas Mike discovered something extraordinary - an ancient Indonesian martial art that had been guarded by the royal family of Java for 11 generations. What makes this system revolutionary isn't just its 450-year history, but how it allows ordinary people to develop seemingly superhuman abilities in days rather than decades.
The transformation began when Mas Mike witnessed blind practitioners who could navigate independently, effectively "seeing" without using their eyes. One man who had been dependent on his mother for 30 years gained complete freedom - riding bicycles through crowds, starting a business, and living independently. These experiences led Maz to adapt this ancient practice for the modern Western world, creating a system that bridges science and spirituality.
What sets VibraVision apart is its efficiency and scientific validation. Dr. Jeffrey Fannin, a prominent neuroscientist who worked with Dr. Joe Dispenza for eight years, was astonished by the unprecedented brain activity patterns he observed in practitioners. Through specific breathing exercises and meditative practices, VibraVision essentially turns your body into an electrical generator, amplifying your natural intuitive abilities to levels that might otherwise take decades of isolated practice to achieve.
Whether you're skeptical or spiritually-inclined, the beauty of this approach lies in its accessibility - a simple five-minute daily practice produces tangible results that can be felt immediately.
As Mas Mike says, "Your superpowers really show up when it's not about you," reminding us that our greatest abilities emerge when we act from service rather than ego.
Ready to explore your hidden potential?
Try the free introductory energy exercise at vibravision.com or masmike.com and feel for yourself what might be possible when you tap into the extraordinary abilities that have been within you all along.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello everyone, welcome to our Spiritual
Spotlight Series.
Today I'm joined by Maz Mike.
He is the founder ofVibraVision, which was featured
on Gaia's Superhuman documentary.
He is a biohacker and his workhas led them to develop a
step-by-step process forordinary people to tap into
their sixth sense.
We're going to be jumping intowhy that is so important and why
(00:23):
that is so amazing.
Thank you so much for coming onthe Spiritual Spotlight Series.
I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh, thank you, Rachel .
I'm so honored and so happy tobe here.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh, I'm so excited.
So let's go back to thebeginning.
What drew you to the path ofmartial arts and how did that
evolve into a spiritual journey?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, that's a really long story but I'll try to give
you the short version.
I grew up in a small mountaintown in Utah and my parents were
from Northern California.
They were coming out ofNorthern California in the late
60s and so it was a very, very,you know, transitional time in
(01:02):
human history and they came tothe home of the LDS religion,
which you know, I guess I shouldsay very stringent and amazing
people, very, very loving andfamily and community oriented.
But yeah, I didn't really fitin because I had very liberal
parents and they had differentteachings and you know what I
(01:24):
was receiving in school and, and, in a nutshell, you know, kids
are mean, no matter where you go.
This is the process of growingup and trying to figure out who
we are, and so I was fightingevery day, all the time, you
know, constantly, you know,being kind of outcast.
I didn't really fit in with thesurrounding community and, um,
well, I was five years old, Iwas really sick and I had
(01:47):
chicken pox, I had a really highfever and back in those days I
don't want to date myself, butmy mom had to rent a VHS VCR.
That tells you a little bit,but anyway, she got these
mid-'80s ninja movies that wereyou know the ones with the
special mouth-tubbing and youknow the superpowers all over
the place and people jumping offbuildings and a hundred feet
(02:07):
down, landing in superhero poseand then doing backflips and
ninja star and hitting the guysfrom like a football field, away
right in the eye.
You know it was like, oh mygosh, this is amazing.
I, I can't wait till I'm allbetter.
And you know, I was five yearsold.
I, I thought I could do allthat stuff.
So I went and I tried it.
I jumped off my, we had horses,so we had a hay barn and I had
(02:27):
a very different experience.
That ended up in a big cloud ofdust and I didn't land like
they did in the shows.
I was crying and bleeding andspit and all the tears and all
the things.
Oh, my goodness, it made areally strong impression on me.
That movie magic was exactlythat.
It was just movie magic.
But I could feel things and Idon't know exactly how to
(02:49):
explain that, but I could feelpeople's emotions.
I could feel when people werelooking at me.
I could feel when I walked in aroom.
If there was one person thatwas upset or didn't like me.
I knew it right away, eventhough there was nothing in my
normal five senses to tell methat.
Yeah, so I saw, you know, starWars and Karate Kid, and I saw
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all these different things.
I was constantly having todefend myself.
And I had another reallyinteresting experience where a
group of traveling Shaolin monksfrom China were touring across
the US and they were all like 90years old and, you know, very
small, very wrinkled up, lookedlike sun-dried raisins, but they
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had this amazing power insideof them and they were taking
football players from theuniversity.
There were all these bigmonster guys doing these chi
demonstrations that were justabsolutely mind-blowing, where
they just barely touched theguys and, uh, you know, the
little guys would touch the bigguys.
The guys go, the footballplayers go flying backwards, and
I was like, holy crap, that'slike star wars, that's like luke
(03:54):
skywalker, but old.
And then, uh, they showed mesomething that really caught my
attention.
They had this lady come outonto the stage.
She was using a walker becauseshe could barely, barely move
and, you know, they laid herdown on the stage and this old
monk took his hand and waved itover the top of it a couple of
times and she would like havethis really surprised.
Look on her face and she got upand walked off stage with no
(04:16):
walker, no limp, nothing.
And I was like what?
Because I came from a medicalfamily.
My mom was an ICU nurse and myfather was the director of the
Ski Patrol first responder.
You know all my family's onboth sides, of medically trained
people and I kind of knew thatturning frowns upside down was
the real magic.
Being able to heal people, thatwas a superpower.
(04:39):
And so I had these things aboutyou know, martial arts and
having to defend myself, butthen having this, you this, I
guess I should say the epitomeof the martial artist that had
studied their whole life andthey were able to do these
things that defied whateverybody else could see or hear
or know or feel to be true, butthey had these superpowers and
(05:02):
they were healing people withthem and I said, wow, this is
something that I've got to checkinto and I spent a long time
really looking for it.
By the time I was able to findVibraVision or the parent
martial art that's calledMarpatiputi or Empe.
I'd been doing martial arts forabout eight and a half or nine
(05:23):
years as a semi-professionaltournament, judging competitor,
and been all over the US reallylooking for things.
I had attained a lot in themartial arts.
I had multiple black belts.
I had earned two third-degreeblack belts and a second-degree
black belt and attained rankusually brown belt or just below
(05:44):
that in whatever art it was for23 other martial arts and I was
really looking for that abilityto connect to myself and then
others and be able to make theworld a better place.
But what I kind of found was,you know, this was like karate
kid times.
You know, growing up throughthe 80s and 90s it was a lot of
ego and tough guy stuff andeverybody talked about energy
(06:06):
and spirituality but then wouldturn around and demonstrate the
exact opposite of it.
Very well, it was like it waslike their heads were so big.
The egos on on.
All of my teachers for the mostpart were like bobble heads and
they walk around with hugepersonas that they had to
protect and not a whole lot ofactually connecting Right.
(06:27):
In any case, I found an ad in ablack belt magazine that said
amazing chi, in two weeksguaranteed are your money back,
and that sounded like a prettygood idea to me because I was
like 19 at the time and thepeople that I had found that had
the abilities that I wanted.
They were monks and Taoists andyogis, but had the abilities
that I wanted.
They were monks and Taoists andyogis and they all had spent
(06:48):
you know, 35 or more years incaves or monasteries or doing
extreme things to attain thesepowers.
And their advice to me was well, there's only one way, and you
got to do it like I did it, andI was sitting there going you
know, hmm, 35 years in a cave ora monastery, or movies,
mcdonald's and girls, hmm, well,I don't think that that other
(07:10):
way is really going to work forme.
And so I did what I could and Iwas really, really searching.
I had a list of certifications,you know, through all kinds of
different Qigong and Nei Qigongand Reiki, and you know some
pranic healing andtranscendental meditation and
all these different things.
I was really looking for theconnection that would fit into
the busy, daily, chaotic worldthat we live in and not have to
(07:33):
go, and you know, prayer, wateror actually purification and
meditation is the only route,and so, but I got this you know
package that came with thisadvertisement.
It was basically somebody inIndonesia had pirated the
traditional royal family system.
(07:53):
That was, you know, a culturalheritage and national treasure
and, yeah, we're going to sellit to dumb Americans for 50
bucks and comes with a video anda little leaflet.
And anyway, it was not the realthing.
It was, you know, obviouslypirated and didn't have any of
the real training or safetyguidelines.
And so my brother and I westarted training in it and three
days later he blew a huge bloodvessel in his eye, had an
(08:16):
aneurysm and it was totally redand bloodshot and he couldn't
see out of it for a couple ofdays and it was gnarly.
We said, no, we're not doingthat.
But miraculously enough orsynchronicity, whatever you want
to call it it came with a videothat was showing all kinds of
martial arts from Indonesia andthey were showing all kinds of
amazing inner powerdemonstrations that I'd never
(08:37):
seen before even though I wasreally in the industry here in
the US, never seen anything likeit.
And there was one group that wasdoing, uh, all of this stuff
and they were doing it with themilitary, blindfolded.
And you know, I, I knew enoughcause I, by that time I'd
already worked with, uh, severalpolice academies and military
(08:59):
and special forces and you knowsecurity professionals, and I
was training them and and, uh,you know, in a lot of their
different skills to do thosejobs.
I knew that this was serious Ifthe military was doing it, that
there was something real goingon here and they were all young
guys and gals, but they were allnot in their late 90s.
(09:21):
There was something else theyhad figured out how to do this
and tune in and tap into thisenergy frequency and their own
personal power very quickly.
And so, in any case, that'skind of how we found it, and we
my brother and I we introducedthem to the Utah schools for the
deaf and the blind because wewanted to help blind people.
It wasn't actually aboutmartial arts at all, but really,
(09:42):
if we can make a difference insomebody's life, you know, I
always thought how can I, howcan I make the world a better
place?
And there's so many things that, uh, that you could do.
But you know, if you weretrapped in darkness and you
weren't able to see a sunset orwatch TV or paint a picture or
do a lot of the things that wesighted folks take for granted,
(10:05):
Well, to be honest, Rachel, Iwas afraid of the dark as a
young guy.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Same.
I was very afraid of the dark,very afraid of the dark.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I just felt into it for a second and said what if I
could never open my eyes again?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
If I could do something, that would really
change the world.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
This is worth it.
I'm going to look into this.
And so I got the opportunity tomeet a couple of gentlemen from
Indonesia.
They had come over with thisteam that we introduced to the
USDB, the Deaf and Blind Schoolhere in our hometown.
And well, this guy comes in myhouse and he goes upstairs and
puts away all of his own clothesand then comes down and makes
(10:44):
his own food and his own coffee.
He comes down and sits downnext to us and starts watching
TV with us and describing whathe's, what we're all watching,
and I was like what?
Okay, I knew this was going tohappen, but I wasn't ready for
it and it was absolutely mindblowing.
And I, you know, I asked himwell, what is this like for you?
And he said well, well, for 30years I was dependent on my mom
(11:09):
completely for everything,because there's no social
services, no assistance, nothingthat helped us, and Indonesia,
there's no like ADA compliance.
I mean you could just bewalking along and there's a
three foot hole in the sidewalkthat goes right down into a
sewer.
At all times because you wereunder threat.
It's like a very dangerousplace.
And so, you know, 30 years ofmy mom was helping me.
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This is his story, is tellinghim 30 years.
My mom was helping me doeverything and after I learned
VibraVision, I got free.
And I actually rode a bicyclethrough a crowd of 5,000 people
and I found my mom and I took apicture of her Polaroid camera
and gave it to her.
And just the feeling that I gotwhen he expressed this to me.
He says mom, thank you, thankyou so much, but I'm free now
(11:56):
and you can be free too, becauseI can do it myself.
And he started a business, gotmarried, had family, all the
things.
And then he came over here tovisit me.
I was just like okay, I'm inwhatever it takes.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
This is this is it.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
That's the, the, the.
I know that was a little long,but no no, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It's beautiful because it shows how, like you
were, you know open and to be anempath, and where the energy is
, and maybe not seeing wherethis energy is coming from, and
then being introduced to knowit's.
It's coming from this and nowyou've been able to harness it,
and now this is your VibraVision, which is amazing.
So, for those that areunfamiliar, how would you
(12:38):
describe VibraVision and whatmakes it different from other
energetic or sensory practices?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well, just, I guess, to tie that all together.
You know, the reason I gotinvolved in it was, you know,
purely to help blind people.
Yeah, that we can't see, thatwe can't hear, we can't taste,
(13:07):
we can't touch.
But we know inside that there'sthis internal knowing, this
guidance system that we have,and I never thought that we'd be
allowed to train because upuntil that point they'd never
allowed an outsider to everretrain.
They released it to theIndonesian public as a way to
(13:27):
help everybody see that we'reall connected, because they were
in the middle of a civil war.
In in the early 1960s there wasa huge civil war in indonesia
and, uh, the military overthrewthe government that the royal
family of java was not in power,they weren't the rulers rulers
anymore, it was socialists anduh, communists that were
basically killing each other inthe streets.
(13:49):
And, uh, a huge coup d'etat.
They killed over half a millionpeople in six months.
They made a movie about it.
It's called the IndonesianGenocide.
It was gnarly and at that time,even though this had been held
within their family for 11generations, over 450 years, the
10th and 11th generation heirssaid you know, hey, if everybody
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else could see what we can seeand they could feel what we can
feel.
They'd see that we're allconnected and all of the
politics and all of the thingsthat are really running the
world these days are all aboutcreating separation and division
between people that aredifferent than me when in
reality we're all the same,between people that are
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different than me when inreality we're all the same.
And if everybody else could seethis connection, the war would
end.
And so they released it to theIndonesian public and, like the
governments you know that werefighting there, they didn't like
that.
These guys, you know the 11thgeneration areas.
They were underground, beinghunted by the communists and the
socialists, and they literallywere like underground, setting
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everybody free, spreading thisknowledge.
Within three years they hadover a million practicing
members and it had become thethird largest martial art in the
world.
And then it became standardtraining for every branch of the
Indonesian military, includingthe special forces and the
secret service, and they eventeach it in great schools,
because it truly is like.
(15:14):
Well, what should I say Forevery?
Every energetic, enlightenment,intuitive training that is out
there?
We are all headed in the rightdirection, but truly I believe
that there is no better, thereis no worse, and we're all
allies, we're all trying to riseup with the rising tide.
(15:35):
So if I could say what it isthat makes this different, you
know, I'll first of all say Iwant everybody to understand
that it's not what's differentthat's important, it's what's
the same.
And if we want to truly connectto ourselves and connect to
everybody else because it has tostart here, it has to start
inside and then it can go to theoutside If you want to create a
(15:56):
different wave of influence,first you've got to create a
different source, which is us.
We're the source.
So infinite love and respect toeveryone out there that is
doing something, anything, tobetter themselves and become
more connected to themselves andothers.
What really sets us apart isthat we kind of put a jet engine
and a turbocharger on it.
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We amplify the signal so fastthat, instead of being a whisper
, you know your inner voice,your guardian voice, whatever
you want to call it was awhisper.
It's a lot harder to hear thanif it's being blasted through a
megaphone Whoa, holy crap, Ihear you.
Hello, exactly what I get itit's very easy to hear when it's
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so loud.
Right, what this really does.
We're bridging the gap betweenscience and spirit, because
we're able to put it under themicroscope, under clinical
conditions, and duplicate thisover and over and over with a
feedback generator thatliterally shows yes or no, not
just a subjective internalreality, which is obviously the
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most important.
Our internal reality is themost important thing that we
have, because no one else canfeel our pain or our emotions
have, because no one else canfeel our pain or our emotions.
We have to know that our innerworld is the most important, but
the rest of the world judgeswhat everybody else can see too
as reality.
So this is a totally differentway that we can in essence do it
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in a scientific, duplicatableway that everybody else can see.
And, in a nutshell, what itdoes is it pulls together our
mind, body and spirit connectionin such a powerful way, so fast
, that you can't deny it andeveryone else can see it, and it
gives us real life superpowers,because we all have superpowers
(17:46):
.
It's just we're distracted intothe day-to-day and all the 3D
hard reality that I mean.
Literally the media, theadvertising, all of the things
that are out there are trainingus to be seven seconds or less
in attention span.
Right, well, if you try, youknow, rachel, I see that amazing
painting that's behind you anda bunch of different painting
(18:08):
things, supplies and whatnot onthe wall.
If you only had seven secondsto create your masterpiece, it
probably wouldn't look like that.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Probably not.
Well it might, though, withVibraVision.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Well, I believe that you could do it.
I can't do it, you.
Okay, this is a side note, butI am not a visual artist.
I slaughter stick figures.
If you ever get a chance to seeit, you'll understand.
It's not really my go-to or myforte, but being able to create
the connections in our brain toawaken the things that are
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always there we're just notusing and tap into that ability
that is always sleeping insideof us and then start growing and
manifesting it into our ownpersonal, unique superpower.
That is what I'm good at and,in a nutshell, this technology
that was handed down within theroyal family is a quicker way to
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get to Rome.
All paths lead to Rome, butsometimes we feel like we're on
a horse and sometimes a bicycle.
This is like having ajet-powered Ferrari or a Tesla
Plaid.
That breaks the barriers andgoes a little bit quicker.
It's different for everybody,right?
Really about uncoveringyourself and getting to know
yourself.
(19:27):
The process, I guess, if I couldmake it short and simple, is
that we focus on the body, withbreathing exercises and
meditation that integrate thepieces of the body and all the
circuitry.
We basically turn your bodyinto a big electrical generator,
and if you create moreelectricity.
Therefore you also, in balance,will create more magnetism, and
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this electromagnetism yin-yang,whatever is the source of our
life.
So if you boost one, then youstart getting more of the other
one, and then the whisper turnsinto a booming voice through the
megaphone.
It becomes a lot easier and wecan start training it.
And this is the really, reallybig key is that we make it fast
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and fun.
You don't have to go to a caveor a monastery and sacrifice and
suffer until you surrender intothe oneness that is waiting but
very elusive.
Instead, we just figured out away to make it into a game and
at the same time, through thegame, you're training the exact
things in the exact order, justlike time.
(20:30):
Through the game, you'retraining the exact things in the
exact order, just like I meanit truly is.
It's a technology just like aphone.
If you pull your phone out ofthe box when you first get it
and you just push on the screen,nothing happens because you're
not doing it in the right order.
But if you push the powerbutton and then it lights up and
then it pings the satellite andyou enter the code and then you
push hey, here's my number Now,all of a sudden, the technology
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has connection.
It'll do the thing that it'ssupposed to do and you can go to
the app store or the Play Storeand then you can start getting
all the apps and start playingany of the games or applying it
into what it is that you want todo, and you can get anything in
the app store.
We're exactly like we're theultimate technology truly human,
human being.
We have so many mysteries andmiracles just waiting to be
explored, inside of us and andanyone out there that is feeling
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like disconnected or lost orlooking for something to tap
into yes, I could not.
You just said it so perfectlythat we truly attract the most
amazing people and for everybodythat comes, it's like all of a
sudden you.
You know, for a lot of us wekind of felt like an alien, like
(21:38):
everybody else isn't gettingpart of us probably are star
seeds, but that's not our talk.
Well, how about if we could?
We could put some miracle, growand water those star seeds and
start growing ourselves and,most importantly, finding the
people that we actually resonatewith.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Absolutely Vibrationally resonate with
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It's all about vibes.
You've got to trust the vibe itis.
You know both Einstein andTesla.
They were quoted as saying ifyou want the secrets to the
universe, think in terms ofenergy frequency and vibration.
This really resonated with me.
Vibravision we're literallytuning into the vibrations of
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the universe.
It's a whole different languagethat we have been speaking
since the day we entered thisplanet.
Absolutely, it gets trained outof us, we get distracted and
told no, and that's not real,and so many things that then you
know.
We have this inner conflict andso many other traumas and
different things that weactually experience on the
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inside.
They are inside.
It's an inside job.
Right, we could actually justlook, because 99.9% of the
answers are inside.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Anyway, no one else can tell you.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You have to look and you find it.
That is, in my opinion, youknow, one of the greatest
callings of life.
That's what we're really herefor is know thyself.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, I mean, it brings me to a couple points.
It brings me to the body.
Keeps the score.
Everything is embedded into ourcellular tissue, like we have
to tap into the body.
Everything is within.
We become disconnected from ourbody because of our external
nuances and realities and mediaand things that are, you know,
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programmed into us.
And I love the fact that youknow you've supercharged this,
this fiber vision.
You know, I'm somebody whoworks in the Akashic records and
I'm a energy healer and I'mjust like, wow, this is like
next level.
I'm like, yeah, sign me up forfiber vision.
Like it just sounds like themissing piece of what I'm
(23:47):
looking for, because you're soright, it comes down to
vibrations.
You can walk into a room andyou're like not for me.
You can walk into another roomand be like, oh my gosh, these
are my people, these are mypeople Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yes, ma'am, I can't wait to have you walk into our
room.
I'm excited I literally I tellpeople this is like it's so much
fun, it should be illegal.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
It might be something , so you better hurry.
Better hurry.
Well, let me ask you this,because I'm a nurse we talked
about this before and you'veworked with doctors, scientists
and researchers.
Can you maybe say what has beenthe most surprising scientific
validation of your work so farthat maybe they validated,
(24:31):
Because sometimes they'reskeptics I know that my doctors
themselves.
They're like it's funny, I'vebeen in this doctors off topic
eight years and now they'reslowly leaning to the Rachel way
.
They're talking about vibes,energy.
I'm like, yes, thank you, butplease answer.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I love that.
Please keep up the fight.
You're fighting the good fight,and I could go really deep into
this one.
I'll try to be short, but youknow okay.
So really fast.
So before I do, let me just say, um, are you familiar with
Nassim Herman?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
No, I feel like I am, though.
Herman, I feel like I am.
That name sounds familiar to me.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Well, he's done a lot of amazing things.
He's a close friend of mine andhe literally was fighting that
battle for eight years.
He figured out that in the maththat contemporary or modern
science was using for a longtime now, there was like I don't
know 27 discrepancies in themath they were using for what an
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atom actually is.
And he figured it all out withzero discrepancies, remapped the
surface of the proton of anatom and it all works.
And right now he's working onmore advanced programs like
crazy stuff with teleportation,levitation, free energy, the
dark matter, the God particle,all these type of things.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
He's like.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
In my opinion, he's definitely one of the smartest
people on the planet.
He's the smartest, and he hadto fight them for eight years,
being ostracized and outcast andridiculed, before they finally
had to concede and say, okay,you're right, yes, that is the
correct answer.
So keep fighting the good fightand remember that the goal is
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just to shine bright enough thateverybody else immediately they
may feel like, oh, that's toomuch, but then they will
eventually begin to copy you.
Really, they'll always ridiculeyou before they copy you, and
that's the sincerest form offlattery, right?
So, with that in mind, biggest,craziest, awesomest feedback
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Let me.
I mean I could go down thisrabbit hole forever, you know,
in my efforts trying to put thebullseye on how do we flip these
switches faster.
I mean, in a nutshell, theentire goal here, the passion
project behind it, is to helpblind people, but the reality is
that what this really does isit gives us the ability to tune
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into our intuitive guidancesystem and do it in a way that
is so magnified and amplifiedthat being able to see with a
mind sight or vibra vision isone part of it, but there's so
much more and I mean that's justone superpower.
With that in mind.
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In that regard, I actually had avery, very prominent
neuroscientist come and we werehaving to study us and say, okay
, where exactly in the brain isbeing activated right here?
His name is Dr Jeffrey Fannin.
He was Dr Joe Dispenza's topneuroscientist for eight years,
traveling around with him anddoing all the brain scans and 3D
mapping, to say, hey, this iswhat's happening in the brain.
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And in any case, he came and hemeasured our athletes and he
literally, jaw dropped, hit thefloor.
He's like what the heck?
He'd never seen anything likewhat we were doing and it was.
You know, everybody's all doingthe same thing at the same time
and all the scans are going tothe same place.
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Because if you didn't have to gothrough any training, I mean
what I've done is take thetraditional system and put
literally 20 or 30 yearsdepending on how fast you were
able to do it I literally put itinto days and a hundred percent
success ratio.
Everybody can switch and getthe result.
But I want even more.
What can I do if I could take aboy in person and turn the
lights back on, so to speak, forthem without having any
training?
Okay, hey, sit in this chair.
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Look to the left and I'm goingto shock this part of your brain
with a specific scalarfrequency or a skinar device of
some type or whatever.
Try to find the missing.
I guess I should say cheat code.
That is the ultimate.
That immediately just turns itall on.
That's the goal.
So, as Dr Jeff is measuring us,he basically told me that, okay,
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every single second of our life, our system is processing over
40 billion bits of information,but your conscious mind only has
access to it about 2000 bitstotal.
So 40 billion is coming in, butyou're only accessing 2000.
If you were to think of thatlike awareness dollars, like
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awareness bucks, you have a $40billion bank account, but you
can only spend 2000.
Yeah, what would happen if wecould just increase that by 10%?
Right, I think that when wethink of it like a bank account,
a 10% raise sounds pretty good.
What if we could do a hundredpercent raise?
And I mean literally sittingthere in the bank account is 20
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million times more than we haveaccess to.
I want the PIN number.
Let's unlock that.
That's where we're really going, and that's again knowledge of
ourself.
And so getting that validationfrom him was a very, very
amazing thing for me.
I have so many more, but if Iwas to choose one, I would say
having him say I've been doingthis for 25 years and I've never
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seen anything like this, thisis unbelievable.
That's amazing.
He was working with a lot ofthe best in the field at that
time, so that was super cool.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
That is super cool.
So you kind of brought up thisin the beginning with some of
the trainers that you went to.
So let's talk about ego for asecond.
How do you stay grounded whenyou're doing things that defy
the laws of nature?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Rachel, you have some great questions.
So the first thing that I letme just cover here is that this
power that we have inside of usis a tool and just like any
other tool, like a hammer, youcan build a life-saving shelter
that will protect the wholevillage from the hurricane, yeah
, but you can also hurt somebodywith it.
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Real easy.
Just a little tap in the wrongspot, somebody's day changes
really quickly.
So, understanding that this isa tool that can be used for good
or bad evil whatever you wantto call it we have to be really
careful about who we share itwith.
And this was my original promiseto the royal family on my blood
that I would protect this andshare it in.
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And this was my originalpromise to the royal family on
my blood that I would protectthis and share it in the right
way.
That we're always out to createsuperheroes, not super villains
, that we're training in Jedis,so to speak.
No Darth Vader's allowed, and,uh, you know we just simply call
it having a no a-hole rule.
People that don't resonate, theyaren't able to stick around,
it's like, yeah, they just kindof self-eliminate.
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But we keep a really close eyeout for that.
And this also comes in asecondary thing that this is our
opportunity to learn, and I'lltell you, my superpowers really
show up when it's not about me.
Ego is something that Idefinitely have had a lot of
lessons going through life withgoing back to the beginning with
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the martial arts stuff andconstantly having to defend
myself and then learning fromthese guys that had the
massively inflated heads theegos were so big and then
expecting me to also have thatand I got sucked into it.
But I started whoa.
This is not what I wanted.
I started teaching for freejust to give back, because
martial arts helped me when Iwas in an awkward place of
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growth and trying to figure outwho I was.
But this is like a wholedifferent level of that.
That.
It's amazing.
When we do it out of ego, it'slike it teaches us because all
of a sudden we can't dosomething Like, for example, we
take a big piece of steel or aniron bar and I literally can
just like, very slowly, or evenusing one finger or a piece of
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newspaper, and break this pieceof metal.
But if I go out there and I'mlike, okay, watch this and I
will jack myself, up.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yes, you'll break your hand.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
It's incredible how I guess service is the highest
calling and our superpowersreally show up when they're in
service, when it's not about us.
So I feel like we have a verystrong moral teaching and the
things that I go through in thisLiterally people from all walks
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of life, all religions, all ofthe different backgrounds and
belief systems you could everimagine.
Once again, the goal here is tofind out what they all have in
common and give everybody thefreedom to explore it.
All have in common and giveeverybody the freedom to explore
it.
And it's amazing, when you givepeople the freedom to explore
in the right way, they findtheir own answers and the answer
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is always love.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Absolutely Love or above Yep.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I love it.
It's it's.
It's amazing how, uh, so many ofthe things that we are taught
are to control us and instillguilt and shame and judgment and
all these things that we, as ahuman, have an ability to carry
around with us and handicap ourgrowth, our viewpoint and our
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choices.
Every single thing that we do inour life, we carry around
injuries that no one can see.
The trauma that gets instilledinside of us probably didn't
come from us, and it's amazinghow what I share with people in
our level one events it's afive-day event.
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On level three, I show peoplesomething that it took me a
really long time to learn, thatthis is a so powerful and
literally giving each of us ourown permission to connect, to
not need anyone else'spermission to be, but to be free
and sovereign in our own being.
It's a transformation day thatI've had so many amazing
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teachers that I would never,ever say anything negative, but
I will say that so far, I'veseen things and been able to
connect people in a way that Iwant to share more of, because
it's so powerful.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I love that.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I guess the quintessential element to
creating this massive boost insuperpowers it's not just taking
our electrical system that runsthrough our body and connecting
it into our brain sensors andflipping the switches like a
technology, it's getting free ofall the garbage that holds us
back Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So something I say to myselfevery day.
How can I be more of service,how can I have more freedom and
how can I have more abundancewhen I'm connecting with my
higher self?
So those are the three things Iask.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You have to be in service.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
So perfect.
I love that.
So what role does disciplineand daily practice play in
cultivating these abilities?
Can anyone do this?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Or is there a specific prerequisites?
That's a wonderful question.
You know, I always ask mystudents.
I say hey, how much meditationdo you need?
Everybody considers it for amoment before I tell them the
answer is as much as you need.
The reality is that I can seethat, rachel, you've got talent,
skills and abilities all aroundyou in your office that I
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definitely do not have.
So I don't have the exact wayfor you, but I have a path for
you to explore it.
I give all the tools for you tobe able to explore it in the
way that is perfect for you.
But I can give you like youknow, we're very structured
people.
We thrive on structure.
I can give you some ideas andsay hey, if you want this, do
this.
If you want this, do this.
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If you want this, do this.
But at the end of the day, youare becoming the master or
masteress, if you will of yourown domain.
So, with that in mind, the bigkey to this is yeah, I show you
some things that are superpowerful, like literally doing
the exercise regimen that wehave, that they use in every
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branch.
I mean, every soldier inIndonesia does this on a daily
basis, every police officer, thekids in school, everybody's
doing it.
It literally takes five minutes, but in that five minutes you
get a better physiologicalresult, like affecting your
actual connections and musclefiber, every part of your your
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being, through your physicalbody and connecting it into your
mind.
Then 45 minutes of doing anyother type of training, will you
know?
A normal workout with a warmup,a full blown workout, cool down
, stretching, all of thesethings we can do it in five
minutes, which then, if you havethat, you use it as a warmup.
Now you're really ready to playhard for that other 40 minutes.
Or, if you want to be, you know, at the end of the day maybe
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you're like me, I go really hard, but I'm actually really lazy.
If I could save 40 minutes,that means I have 40 minutes to
play and I've got to go play, soit's like my kind of thing.
Yeah, I well, I, I, I reallywant you know everybody to have
a different experience than thanI did, Cause I had to do the
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traditional way as a first youknow, the first in history, and
since I, I literally was I'm theonly person in history that's
ever been adopted by the royalfamily.
I'm the only one that's everbeen given permission to modify
the traditional system thateveryone still does in Indonesia
to get the result for theWestern world.
Because this is about sharing,and one of the greatest things
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that I've learned about sharingis that you have to meet people
where they're at.
You can't expect them to alwaysmeet you where you're at, and
you know, if you want to, if youwant to create a new synergy
between you and another person,you've got to have open arms.
It doesn't mean that, you know,you don't necessarily still
have your protective gear onunderneath your clothes, but
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you've got to welcome with openarms, right, and so I basically
created all of the tools and thethings that everybody can have
me at their disposal.
I want them to feel thissupport and the ability to walk
the path wherever they are inthe world at any time.
But I give you all the thingsand then it's up to you to
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choose.
Hey, what do I feel like today?
What do I feel like today?
It's just like ordering at arestaurant.
I give you the full menu andsome of them are like, hey, I'm
really going into the deeppractice, I'm going to do
da-da-da-da-da-da-da and you'regoing to be playing in that for
an hour, but other times, hey, Ionly got 10 minutes.
Boom, you're want to do any ofthe breaking stuff.
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She just wanted the health andfitness and wanted to regenerate
herself from the inside.
She went through the two daysand decided nope, I'm breaking
steel today.
And she broke the steel.
And I just say it's not aboutour body, it's not about our
mind.
It's about putting the twotogether and that's where your
true power will come.
You know that the greatestobstacles we have to finding our
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true power are in our body andin our mind, when our body's in
pain, it instantly stresses us,and if we're focused on work,
family, neighbors, you knowwhatever little things that are
stressing us it gets lodged backin our body and then builds up
and we have cumulative stressthat breaks us down from the
inside and creates pain.
So we're literally running thisloop, like a dog chasing its
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own tail.
Let's do the shortcut balanceout the body, balance out the
mind, and that will open thegate into the spirit, and that's
what really is running the showanyway.
So if we want to know ourselvesdeeper, we march from both
sides of the field, so to speak,so we can meet in the middle 10
times as fast and blast off.
And I, you know, everybody'spath is different, but the
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number one thing that everybodysays is it feels good.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I like that.
That's what matters Feelinggood, absolutely.
So what has been your greatestlesson on this path, either from
the ancient teachings or fromyour own journey through modern
day integration?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
The greatest lesson for me on this path?
The greatest lesson for me onthis path?
Wow, that's a really goodquestion, rachel.
You know what?
I guess the greatest lesson Canit be a run on sentence.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
The greatest lesson is that we can do anything, but
we have to do it because itdoesn't do itself.
And in that, when we dosomething, that's where we feel
the reward.
The reward is the progressbecause we actually exerted
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ourself, and in that we loveourself more.
I guess I should say easy come,easy go.
If something just falls in yourlap, you don't value it usually
, but when you actually exploreit and you develop something,
you put effort into it, then youfeel pride.
And pride is not actually beingopen to what is and keeping the
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interior wall closed downbecause you know, but being for
having pride in yourself andwhat you do, in your own being.
That is something that has to beearned.
No one else can give it to you,right?
You know, everyone else cantell you that you're amazing
looking, and yet when you lookin the mirror maybe you don't
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see that.
Yeah, everyone can tell youthat you're super funny, but at
the end of the day maybe youdon't feel like it, and so
that's it.
I guess You're more beautifulthan you think, and when you
actually do something is whenyou feel it.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Absolutely, absolutely.
I love that.
That was a great answer.
Now this is our.
That was a great answer?
No, it's.
It reminds you that an attitudeof gratitude and really being
open to the experience of lifeand meeting people where they're
at it's such a valuableexperience.
You know, and going in thisjourney and you know you've had
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in a 30 plus year journey ofthis to get to where you are now
it's, it's amazing, Like it'sso cool and to have being able
to open the arms and bringpeople along is so cool.
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
So you know, I tell you that once again, service and
giving is like the thing thatreally lights me up.
I love sharing, but you knowyou have to be sharing with the
right crowd.
Once again that when you findyour people and actually you
invigorate each other, that islike the greatest feeling
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because we know that we're it'sokay if we're crazy, as long as
we're the right kind of crazyand we find our crazy friends
right facts facts.
You want to feel energized whenyou leave a situation and not
feel like yes yes, well, andeven more than that being able
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to create shielding that isactually powerful enough that
you get to maintain your owncenter so you can walk into the
middle of the war zone, come outsmelling like a rose as a once
again just want to give morelove and more appreciation to
you for the work that you do asa nurse.
That is one of the hardest,most most brutal jobs.
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On the interior, on your spirit, when you see people suffer, it
is rough and I just want to saythat that's why I also find a
massive calling toward healing,because nothing feels better
than turning frowns upside downand that could be the smallest
thing, but you do it in a bigway.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Well, so do you, and I bet for you too, because this
is the same for me.
When someone has that ahamoment and you see the switch
turn on, you're like and thenyou see, their journey unfold.
You're like I love you, it's socool it is so cool to bless
others on their path.
Yes, because we're just part ofthe wheel.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
That's it, and every time we help someone else, it's
helping us.
Yes, that's really reallypowerful.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
So for our last question and I'll make sure that
I link everything in thisinterview because he has a lot
to offer, which is amazing Forlisteners who feel curious but
skeptical, or maybe feel a bitintimidated what's one simple,
actual step they can take todayto start unlocking their hidden
potential?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Well, I have been working on a lot of different
things to be able to leteverybody try it at whatever
level they're at.
If you go to justvibravisioncom, which is
V-I-B-R-A-V-I-S-I-O-Ncom,there's a plethora of different
options that you can find inthere.
You can actually also go tomossmikecom, which is
(46:23):
M-A-S-M-I-K-Ecom, which isM-A-S-M-I-K-E dot com, and I
think they're putting a new onein there, slash gift, and it's a
free gift where literally youcan try the first energy
exercise that anyone ever learnsin the former Patiputi system
or VibraVision.
And even if you've been doingenergy work for 30 years or
you've never done a day in yourlife and you're super skeptical
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when you try this, if youactually do the exercise which
it's a little series of videosthat teach you how to do it and
then run you through it youcan't help but feel it.
And when you feel it, you willlove it.
And this is the biggest thingthat I will say.
We've already been through thegamut.
I'm working with a whole otherbatch of scientists on
consciousness that we've alreadyproven it.
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We, a whole other batch ofscientists on consciousness that
are we've already proven it.
We already know that this isreal, that we're not cheating,
it's not magic.
It's not an illusion that we'rewe're not pulling the wool over
anybody's eyes.
Actually, we're doing this forreal, that this exists.
So the next stage is you have toprove it to yourself, and this
is it.
No one can do that but you.
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So I would say, definitely go,try the energy intro experience.
I'll teach you the firstexercise.
You get to run through it andif you do it, you will
definitely feel something.
And then, if you want to godeeper down the rabbit hole,
we've got online programs.
You can actually do it in thecomfort of your own home.
We have in-person events.
There's a series of those thatare coming up.
We have new events that arecoming all the time, and all of
that is in the calendar on thewebsite that.
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There's just tons of differentoptions.
We want to meet you whereyou're at.
We want you to be happy,healthy and freaking awesome in
whatever it is that you're doing, because our life is short and
it's going to be over before weknow it.
We have got every right to beour authentic selves genuine,
sovereign and super fun.
And if you're struggling withsomething, this is like the
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master reset button.
I promise it's like the onlyway I could really explain.
It is like the old Pepto-Bismolcommercials.
It's like if you have upset,stomach or heartburn or this,
that they go down the whole listdrink the pink stuff.
Well, this is like that forlife.
Whether you're doing physicalstuff, you're doing mental stuff
or you're looking for thespiritual aspect.
(48:35):
This is like the VIP bullettrain ticket to get you what you
want and more.
So definitely check outvibravisioncom or mossmikecom
and come play.
I can't wait to see you outthere in the real world.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
I love it.
Thank you so much for coming onthe Spiritual Spotlight Series.
It's truly been amazing toconnect with you today.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Oh, thank you, Rachel .
You're amazing and you shine sobright.
I can't wait to play with youtoo.
Thank you.
Hello everyone, welcome to our Spiritual
Spotlight Series.
Today I'm joined by Maz Mike.
He is the founder ofVibraVision, which was featured
on Gaia's Superhuman documentary.
He is a biohacker and his workhas led them to develop a
step-by-step process forordinary people to tap into
their sixth sense.
We're going to be jumping intowhy that is so important and why
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that is so amazing.
Thank you so much for coming onthe Spiritual Spotlight Series.
I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh, thank you, Rachel .
I'm so honored and so happy tobe here.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh, I'm so excited.
So let's go back to thebeginning.
What drew you to the path ofmartial arts and how did that
evolve into a spiritual journey?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, that's a really long story but I'll try to give
you the short version.
I grew up in a small mountaintown in Utah and my parents were
from Northern California.
They were coming out ofNorthern California in the late
60s and so it was a very, very,you know, transitional time in
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human history and they came tothe home of the LDS religion,
which you know, I guess I shouldsay very stringent and amazing
people, very, very loving andfamily and community oriented.
But yeah, I didn't really fitin because I had very liberal
parents and they had differentteachings and you know what I
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was receiving in school and, and, in a nutshell, you know, kids
are mean, no matter where you go.
This is the process of growingup and trying to figure out who
we are, and so I was fightingevery day, all the time, you
know, constantly, you know,being kind of outcast.
I didn't really fit in with thesurrounding community and, um,
well, I was five years old, Iwas really sick and I had
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chicken pox, I had a really highfever and back in those days I
don't want to date myself, butmy mom had to rent a VHS VCR.
That tells you a little bit,but anyway, she got these
mid-'80s ninja movies that wereyou know the ones with the
special mouth-tubbing and youknow the superpowers all over
the place and people jumping offbuildings and a hundred feet
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down, landing in superhero poseand then doing backflips and
ninja star and hitting the guysfrom like a football field, away
right in the eye.
You know it was like, oh mygosh, this is amazing.
I, I can't wait till I'm allbetter.
And you know, I was five yearsold.
I, I thought I could do allthat stuff.
So I went and I tried it.
I jumped off my, we had horses,so we had a hay barn and I had
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a very different experience.
That ended up in a big cloud ofdust and I didn't land like
they did in the shows.
I was crying and bleeding andspit and all the tears and all
the things.
Oh, my goodness, it made areally strong impression on me.
That movie magic was exactlythat.
It was just movie magic.
But I could feel things and Idon't know exactly how to
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explain that, but I could feelpeople's emotions.
I could feel when people werelooking at me.
I could feel when I walked in aroom.
If there was one person thatwas upset or didn't like me.
I knew it right away, eventhough there was nothing in my
normal five senses to tell methat.
Yeah, so I saw, you know, starWars and Karate Kid, and I saw
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all these different things.
I was constantly having todefend myself.
And I had another reallyinteresting experience where a
group of traveling Shaolin monksfrom China were touring across
the US and they were all like 90years old and, you know, very
small, very wrinkled up, lookedlike sun-dried raisins, but they
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had this amazing power insideof them and they were taking
football players from theuniversity.
There were all these bigmonster guys doing these chi
demonstrations that were justabsolutely mind-blowing, where
they just barely touched theguys and, uh, you know, the
little guys would touch the bigguys.
The guys go, the footballplayers go flying backwards, and
I was like, holy crap, that'slike star wars, that's like luke
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skywalker, but old.
And then, uh, they showed mesomething that really caught my
attention.
They had this lady come outonto the stage.
She was using a walker becauseshe could barely, barely move
and, you know, they laid herdown on the stage and this old
monk took his hand and waved itover the top of it a couple of
times and she would like havethis really surprised.
Look on her face and she got upand walked off stage with no
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walker, no limp, nothing.
And I was like what?
Because I came from a medicalfamily.
My mom was an ICU nurse and myfather was the director of the
Ski Patrol first responder.
You know all my family's onboth sides, of medically trained
people and I kind of knew thatturning frowns upside down was
the real magic.
Being able to heal people, thatwas a superpower.
(04:39):
And so I had these things aboutyou know, martial arts and
having to defend myself, butthen having this, you this, I
guess I should say the epitomeof the martial artist that had
studied their whole life andthey were able to do these
things that defied whateverybody else could see or hear
or know or feel to be true, butthey had these superpowers and
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they were healing people withthem and I said, wow, this is
something that I've got to checkinto and I spent a long time
really looking for it.
By the time I was able to findVibraVision or the parent
martial art that's calledMarpatiputi or Empe.
I'd been doing martial arts forabout eight and a half or nine
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years as a semi-professionaltournament, judging competitor,
and been all over the US reallylooking for things.
I had attained a lot in themartial arts.
I had multiple black belts.
I had earned two third-degreeblack belts and a second-degree
black belt and attained rankusually brown belt or just below
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that in whatever art it was for23 other martial arts and I was
really looking for that abilityto connect to myself and then
others and be able to make theworld a better place.
But what I kind of found was,you know, this was like karate
kid times.
You know, growing up throughthe 80s and 90s it was a lot of
ego and tough guy stuff andeverybody talked about energy
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and spirituality but then wouldturn around and demonstrate the
exact opposite of it.
Very well, it was like it waslike their heads were so big.
The egos on on.
All of my teachers for the mostpart were like bobble heads and
they walk around with hugepersonas that they had to
protect and not a whole lot ofactually connecting Right.
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In any case, I found an ad in ablack belt magazine that said
amazing chi, in two weeksguaranteed are your money back,
and that sounded like a prettygood idea to me because I was
like 19 at the time and thepeople that I had found that had
the abilities that I wanted.
They were monks and Taoists andyogis, but had the abilities
that I wanted.
They were monks and Taoists andyogis and they all had spent
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you know, 35 or more years incaves or monasteries or doing
extreme things to attain thesepowers.
And their advice to me was well, there's only one way, and you
got to do it like I did it, andI was sitting there going you
know, hmm, 35 years in a cave ora monastery, or movies,
mcdonald's and girls, hmm, well,I don't think that that other
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way is really going to work forme.
And so I did what I could and Iwas really, really searching.
I had a list of certifications,you know, through all kinds of
different Qigong and Nei Qigongand Reiki, and you know some
pranic healing andtranscendental meditation and
all these different things.
I was really looking for theconnection that would fit into
the busy, daily, chaotic worldthat we live in and not have to
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go, and you know, prayer, wateror actually purification and
meditation is the only route,and so, but I got this you know
package that came with thisadvertisement.
It was basically somebody inIndonesia had pirated the
traditional royal family system.
(07:53):
That was, you know, a culturalheritage and national treasure
and, yeah, we're going to sellit to dumb Americans for 50
bucks and comes with a video anda little leaflet.
And anyway, it was not the realthing.
It was, you know, obviouslypirated and didn't have any of
the real training or safetyguidelines.
And so my brother and I westarted training in it and three
days later he blew a huge bloodvessel in his eye, had an
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aneurysm and it was totally redand bloodshot and he couldn't
see out of it for a couple ofdays and it was gnarly.
We said, no, we're not doingthat.
But miraculously enough orsynchronicity, whatever you want
to call it it came with a videothat was showing all kinds of
martial arts from Indonesia andthey were showing all kinds of
amazing inner powerdemonstrations that I'd never
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seen before even though I wasreally in the industry here in
the US, never seen anything likeit.
And there was one group that wasdoing, uh, all of this stuff
and they were doing it with themilitary, blindfolded.
And you know, I, I knew enoughcause I, by that time I'd
already worked with, uh, severalpolice academies and military
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and special forces and you knowsecurity professionals, and I
was training them and and, uh,you know, in a lot of their
different skills to do thosejobs.
I knew that this was serious Ifthe military was doing it, that
there was something real goingon here and they were all young
guys and gals, but they were allnot in their late 90s.
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There was something else theyhad figured out how to do this
and tune in and tap into thisenergy frequency and their own
personal power very quickly.
And so, in any case, that'skind of how we found it, and we
my brother and I we introducedthem to the Utah schools for the
deaf and the blind because wewanted to help blind people.
It wasn't actually aboutmartial arts at all, but really,
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if we can make a difference insomebody's life, you know, I
always thought how can I, howcan I make the world a better
place?
And there's so many things that, uh, that you could do.
But you know, if you weretrapped in darkness and you
weren't able to see a sunset orwatch TV or paint a picture or
do a lot of the things that wesighted folks take for granted,
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Well, to be honest, Rachel, Iwas afraid of the dark as a
young guy.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Same.
I was very afraid of the dark,very afraid of the dark.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I just felt into it for a second and said what if I
could never open my eyes again?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
If I could do something, that would really
change the world.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
This is worth it.
I'm going to look into this.
And so I got the opportunity tomeet a couple of gentlemen from
Indonesia.
They had come over with thisteam that we introduced to the
USDB, the Deaf and Blind Schoolhere in our hometown.
And well, this guy comes in myhouse and he goes upstairs and
puts away all of his own clothesand then comes down and makes
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his own food and his own coffee.
He comes down and sits downnext to us and starts watching
TV with us and describing whathe's, what we're all watching,
and I was like what?
Okay, I knew this was going tohappen, but I wasn't ready for
it and it was absolutely mindblowing.
And I, you know, I asked himwell, what is this like for you?
And he said well, well, for 30years I was dependent on my mom
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completely for everything,because there's no social
services, no assistance, nothingthat helped us, and Indonesia,
there's no like ADA compliance.
I mean you could just bewalking along and there's a
three foot hole in the sidewalkthat goes right down into a
sewer.
At all times because you wereunder threat.
It's like a very dangerousplace.
And so, you know, 30 years ofmy mom was helping me.
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This is his story, is tellinghim 30 years.
My mom was helping me doeverything and after I learned
VibraVision, I got free.
And I actually rode a bicyclethrough a crowd of 5,000 people
and I found my mom and I took apicture of her Polaroid camera
and gave it to her.
And just the feeling that I gotwhen he expressed this to me.
He says mom, thank you, thankyou so much, but I'm free now
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and you can be free too, becauseI can do it myself.
And he started a business, gotmarried, had family, all the
things.
And then he came over here tovisit me.
I was just like okay, I'm inwhatever it takes.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
This is this is it.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
That's the, the, the.
I know that was a little long,but no no, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It's beautiful because it shows how, like you
were, you know open and to be anempath, and where the energy is
, and maybe not seeing wherethis energy is coming from, and
then being introduced to knowit's.
It's coming from this and nowyou've been able to harness it,
and now this is your VibraVision, which is amazing.
So, for those that areunfamiliar, how would you
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describe VibraVision and whatmakes it different from other
energetic or sensory practices?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well, just, I guess, to tie that all together.
You know, the reason I gotinvolved in it was, you know,
purely to help blind people.
Yeah, that we can't see, thatwe can't hear, we can't taste,
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we can't touch.
But we know inside that there'sthis internal knowing, this
guidance system that we have,and I never thought that we'd be
allowed to train because upuntil that point they'd never
allowed an outsider to everretrain.
They released it to theIndonesian public as a way to
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help everybody see that we'reall connected, because they were
in the middle of a civil war.
In in the early 1960s there wasa huge civil war in indonesia
and, uh, the military overthrewthe government that the royal
family of java was not in power,they weren't the rulers rulers
anymore, it was socialists anduh, communists that were
basically killing each other inthe streets.
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And, uh, a huge coup d'etat.
They killed over half a millionpeople in six months.
They made a movie about it.
It's called the IndonesianGenocide.
It was gnarly and at that time,even though this had been held
within their family for 11generations, over 450 years, the
10th and 11th generation heirssaid you know, hey, if everybody
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else could see what we can seeand they could feel what we can
feel.
They'd see that we're allconnected and all of the
politics and all of the thingsthat are really running the
world these days are all aboutcreating separation and division
between people that aredifferent than me when in
reality we're all the same,between people that are
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different than me when inreality we're all the same.
And if everybody else could seethis connection, the war would
end.
And so they released it to theIndonesian public and, like the
governments you know that werefighting there, they didn't like
that.
These guys, you know the 11thgeneration areas.
They were underground, beinghunted by the communists and the
socialists, and they literallywere like underground, setting
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everybody free, spreading thisknowledge.
Within three years they hadover a million practicing
members and it had become thethird largest martial art in the
world.
And then it became standardtraining for every branch of the
Indonesian military, includingthe special forces and the
secret service, and they eventeach it in great schools,
because it truly is like.
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Well, what should I say Forevery?
Every energetic, enlightenment,intuitive training that is out
there?
We are all headed in the rightdirection, but truly I believe
that there is no better, thereis no worse, and we're all
allies, we're all trying to riseup with the rising tide.
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So if I could say what it isthat makes this different, you
know, I'll first of all say Iwant everybody to understand
that it's not what's differentthat's important, it's what's
the same.
And if we want to truly connectto ourselves and connect to
everybody else because it has tostart here, it has to start
inside and then it can go to theoutside If you want to create a
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different wave of influence,first you've got to create a
different source, which is us.
We're the source.
So infinite love and respect toeveryone out there that is
doing something, anything, tobetter themselves and become
more connected to themselves andothers.
What really sets us apart isthat we kind of put a jet engine
and a turbocharger on it.
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We amplify the signal so fastthat, instead of being a whisper
, you know your inner voice,your guardian voice, whatever
you want to call it was awhisper.
It's a lot harder to hear thanif it's being blasted through a
megaphone Whoa, holy crap, Ihear you.
Hello, exactly what I get itit's very easy to hear when it's
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so loud.
Right, what this really does.
We're bridging the gap betweenscience and spirit, because
we're able to put it under themicroscope, under clinical
conditions, and duplicate thisover and over and over with a
feedback generator thatliterally shows yes or no, not
just a subjective internalreality, which is obviously the
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most important.
Our internal reality is themost important thing that we
have, because no one else canfeel our pain or our emotions
have, because no one else canfeel our pain or our emotions.
We have to know that our innerworld is the most important, but
the rest of the world judgeswhat everybody else can see too
as reality.
So this is a totally differentway that we can in essence do it
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in a scientific, duplicatableway that everybody else can see.
And, in a nutshell, what itdoes is it pulls together our
mind, body and spirit connectionin such a powerful way, so fast
, that you can't deny it andeveryone else can see it, and it
gives us real life superpowers,because we all have superpowers
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.
It's just we're distracted intothe day-to-day and all the 3D
hard reality that I mean.
Literally the media, theadvertising, all of the things
that are out there are trainingus to be seven seconds or less
in attention span.
Right, well, if you try, youknow, rachel, I see that amazing
painting that's behind you anda bunch of different painting
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things, supplies and whatnot onthe wall.
If you only had seven secondsto create your masterpiece, it
probably wouldn't look like that.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Probably not.
Well it might, though, withVibraVision.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Well, I believe that you could do it.
I can't do it, you.
Okay, this is a side note, butI am not a visual artist.
I slaughter stick figures.
If you ever get a chance to seeit, you'll understand.
It's not really my go-to or myforte, but being able to create
the connections in our brain toawaken the things that are
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always there we're just notusing and tap into that ability
that is always sleeping insideof us and then start growing and
manifesting it into our ownpersonal, unique superpower.
That is what I'm good at and,in a nutshell, this technology
that was handed down within theroyal family is a quicker way to
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get to Rome.
All paths lead to Rome, butsometimes we feel like we're on
a horse and sometimes a bicycle.
This is like having ajet-powered Ferrari or a Tesla
Plaid.
That breaks the barriers andgoes a little bit quicker.
It's different for everybody,right?
Really about uncoveringyourself and getting to know
yourself.
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The process, I guess, if I couldmake it short and simple, is
that we focus on the body, withbreathing exercises and
meditation that integrate thepieces of the body and all the
circuitry.
We basically turn your bodyinto a big electrical generator,
and if you create moreelectricity.
Therefore you also, in balance,will create more magnetism, and
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this electromagnetism yin-yang,whatever is the source of our
life.
So if you boost one, then youstart getting more of the other
one, and then the whisper turnsinto a booming voice through the
megaphone.
It becomes a lot easier and wecan start training it.
And this is the really, reallybig key is that we make it fast
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and fun.
You don't have to go to a caveor a monastery and sacrifice and
suffer until you surrender intothe oneness that is waiting but
very elusive.
Instead, we just figured out away to make it into a game and
at the same time, through thegame, you're training the exact
things in the exact order, justlike time.
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Through the game, you'retraining the exact things in the
exact order, just like I meanit truly is.
It's a technology just like aphone.
If you pull your phone out ofthe box when you first get it
and you just push on the screen,nothing happens because you're
not doing it in the right order.
But if you push the powerbutton and then it lights up and
then it pings the satellite andyou enter the code and then you
push hey, here's my number Now,all of a sudden, the technology
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has connection.
It'll do the thing that it'ssupposed to do and you can go to
the app store or the Play Storeand then you can start getting
all the apps and start playingany of the games or applying it
into what it is that you want todo, and you can get anything in
the app store.
We're exactly like we're theultimate technology truly human,
human being.
We have so many mysteries andmiracles just waiting to be
explored, inside of us and andanyone out there that is feeling
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like disconnected or lost orlooking for something to tap
into yes, I could not.
You just said it so perfectlythat we truly attract the most
amazing people and for everybodythat comes, it's like all of a
sudden you.
You know, for a lot of us wekind of felt like an alien, like
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everybody else isn't gettingpart of us probably are star
seeds, but that's not our talk.
Well, how about if we could?
We could put some miracle, growand water those star seeds and
start growing ourselves and,most importantly, finding the
people that we actually resonatewith.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Absolutely Vibrationally resonate with
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It's all about vibes.
You've got to trust the vibe itis.
You know both Einstein andTesla.
They were quoted as saying ifyou want the secrets to the
universe, think in terms ofenergy frequency and vibration.
This really resonated with me.
Vibravision we're literallytuning into the vibrations of
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the universe.
It's a whole different languagethat we have been speaking
since the day we entered thisplanet.
Absolutely, it gets trained outof us, we get distracted and
told no, and that's not real,and so many things that then you
know.
We have this inner conflict andso many other traumas and
different things that weactually experience on the
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inside.
They are inside.
It's an inside job.
Right, we could actually justlook, because 99.9% of the
answers are inside.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Anyway, no one else can tell you.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You have to look and you find it.
That is, in my opinion, youknow, one of the greatest
callings of life.
That's what we're really herefor is know thyself.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, I mean, it brings me to a couple points.
It brings me to the body.
Keeps the score.
Everything is embedded into ourcellular tissue, like we have
to tap into the body.
Everything is within.
We become disconnected from ourbody because of our external
nuances and realities and mediaand things that are, you know,
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programmed into us.
And I love the fact that youknow you've supercharged this,
this fiber vision.
You know, I'm somebody whoworks in the Akashic records and
I'm a energy healer and I'mjust like, wow, this is like
next level.
I'm like, yeah, sign me up forfiber vision.
Like it just sounds like themissing piece of what I'm
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looking for, because you're soright, it comes down to
vibrations.
You can walk into a room andyou're like not for me.
You can walk into another roomand be like, oh my gosh, these
are my people, these are mypeople Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yes, ma'am, I can't wait to have you walk into our
room.
I'm excited I literally I tellpeople this is like it's so much
fun, it should be illegal.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
It might be something , so you better hurry.
Better hurry.
Well, let me ask you this,because I'm a nurse we talked
about this before and you'veworked with doctors, scientists
and researchers.
Can you maybe say what has beenthe most surprising scientific
validation of your work so farthat maybe they validated,
(24:31):
Because sometimes they'reskeptics I know that my doctors
themselves.
They're like it's funny, I'vebeen in this doctors off topic
eight years and now they'reslowly leaning to the Rachel way
.
They're talking about vibes,energy.
I'm like, yes, thank you, butplease answer.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I love that.
Please keep up the fight.
You're fighting the good fight,and I could go really deep into
this one.
I'll try to be short, but youknow okay.
So really fast.
So before I do, let me just say, um, are you familiar with
Nassim Herman?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
No, I feel like I am, though.
Herman, I feel like I am.
That name sounds familiar to me.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Well, he's done a lot of amazing things.
He's a close friend of mine andhe literally was fighting that
battle for eight years.
He figured out that in the maththat contemporary or modern
science was using for a longtime now, there was like I don't
know 27 discrepancies in themath they were using for what an
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atom actually is.
And he figured it all out withzero discrepancies, remapped the
surface of the proton of anatom and it all works.
And right now he's working onmore advanced programs like
crazy stuff with teleportation,levitation, free energy, the
dark matter, the God particle,all these type of things.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
He's like.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
In my opinion, he's definitely one of the smartest
people on the planet.
He's the smartest, and he hadto fight them for eight years,
being ostracized and outcast andridiculed, before they finally
had to concede and say, okay,you're right, yes, that is the
correct answer.
So keep fighting the good fightand remember that the goal is
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just to shine bright enough thateverybody else immediately they
may feel like, oh, that's toomuch, but then they will
eventually begin to copy you.
Really, they'll always ridiculeyou before they copy you, and
that's the sincerest form offlattery, right?
So, with that in mind, biggest,craziest, awesomest feedback
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Let me.
I mean I could go down thisrabbit hole forever, you know,
in my efforts trying to put thebullseye on how do we flip these
switches faster.
I mean, in a nutshell, theentire goal here, the passion
project behind it, is to helpblind people, but the reality is
that what this really does isit gives us the ability to tune
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into our intuitive guidancesystem and do it in a way that
is so magnified and amplifiedthat being able to see with a
mind sight or vibra vision isone part of it, but there's so
much more and I mean that's justone superpower.
With that in mind.
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In that regard, I actually had avery, very prominent
neuroscientist come and we werehaving to study us and say, okay
, where exactly in the brain isbeing activated right here?
His name is Dr Jeffrey Fannin.
He was Dr Joe Dispenza's topneuroscientist for eight years,
traveling around with him anddoing all the brain scans and 3D
mapping, to say, hey, this iswhat's happening in the brain.
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And in any case, he came and hemeasured our athletes and he
literally, jaw dropped, hit thefloor.
He's like what the heck?
He'd never seen anything likewhat we were doing and it was.
You know, everybody's all doingthe same thing at the same time
and all the scans are going tothe same place.
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Because if you didn't have to gothrough any training, I mean
what I've done is take thetraditional system and put
literally 20 or 30 yearsdepending on how fast you were
able to do it I literally put itinto days and a hundred percent
success ratio.
Everybody can switch and getthe result.
But I want even more.
What can I do if I could take aboy in person and turn the
lights back on, so to speak, forthem without having any
training?
Okay, hey, sit in this chair.
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Look to the left and I'm goingto shock this part of your brain
with a specific scalarfrequency or a skinar device of
some type or whatever.
Try to find the missing.
I guess I should say cheat code.
That is the ultimate.
That immediately just turns itall on.
That's the goal.
So, as Dr Jeff is measuring us,he basically told me that, okay,
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every single second of our life, our system is processing over
40 billion bits of information,but your conscious mind only has
access to it about 2000 bitstotal.
So 40 billion is coming in, butyou're only accessing 2000.
If you were to think of thatlike awareness dollars, like
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awareness bucks, you have a $40billion bank account, but you
can only spend 2000.
Yeah, what would happen if wecould just increase that by 10%?
Right, I think that when wethink of it like a bank account,
a 10% raise sounds pretty good.
What if we could do a hundredpercent raise?
And I mean literally sittingthere in the bank account is 20
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million times more than we haveaccess to.
I want the PIN number.
Let's unlock that.
That's where we're really going, and that's again knowledge of
ourself.
And so getting that validationfrom him was a very, very
amazing thing for me.
I have so many more, but if Iwas to choose one, I would say
having him say I've been doingthis for 25 years and I've never
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seen anything like this, thisis unbelievable.
That's amazing.
He was working with a lot ofthe best in the field at that
time, so that was super cool.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
That is super cool.
So you kind of brought up thisin the beginning with some of
the trainers that you went to.
So let's talk about ego for asecond.
How do you stay grounded whenyou're doing things that defy
the laws of nature?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Rachel, you have some great questions.
So the first thing that I letme just cover here is that this
power that we have inside of usis a tool and just like any
other tool, like a hammer, youcan build a life-saving shelter
that will protect the wholevillage from the hurricane, yeah
, but you can also hurt somebodywith it.
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Real easy.
Just a little tap in the wrongspot, somebody's day changes
really quickly.
So, understanding that this isa tool that can be used for good
or bad evil whatever you wantto call it we have to be really
careful about who we share itwith.
And this was my original promiseto the royal family on my blood
that I would protect this andshare it in.
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And this was my originalpromise to the royal family on
my blood that I would protectthis and share it in the right
way.
That we're always out to createsuperheroes, not super villains
, that we're training in Jedis,so to speak.
No Darth Vader's allowed, and,uh, you know we just simply call
it having a no a-hole rule.
People that don't resonate, theyaren't able to stick around,
it's like, yeah, they just kindof self-eliminate.
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But we keep a really close eyeout for that.
And this also comes in asecondary thing that this is our
opportunity to learn, and I'lltell you, my superpowers really
show up when it's not about me.
Ego is something that Idefinitely have had a lot of
lessons going through life withgoing back to the beginning with
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the martial arts stuff andconstantly having to defend
myself and then learning fromthese guys that had the
massively inflated heads theegos were so big and then
expecting me to also have thatand I got sucked into it.
But I started whoa.
This is not what I wanted.
I started teaching for freejust to give back, because
martial arts helped me when Iwas in an awkward place of
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growth and trying to figure outwho I was.
But this is like a wholedifferent level of that.
That.
It's amazing.
When we do it out of ego, it'slike it teaches us because all
of a sudden we can't dosomething Like, for example, we
take a big piece of steel or aniron bar and I literally can
just like, very slowly, or evenusing one finger or a piece of
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newspaper, and break this pieceof metal.
But if I go out there and I'mlike, okay, watch this and I
will jack myself, up.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yes, you'll break your hand.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
It's incredible how I guess service is the highest
calling and our superpowersreally show up when they're in
service, when it's not about us.
So I feel like we have a verystrong moral teaching and the
things that I go through in thisLiterally people from all walks
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of life, all religions, all ofthe different backgrounds and
belief systems you could everimagine.
Once again, the goal here is tofind out what they all have in
common and give everybody thefreedom to explore it.
All have in common and giveeverybody the freedom to explore
it.
And it's amazing, when you givepeople the freedom to explore
in the right way, they findtheir own answers and the answer
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is always love.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Absolutely Love or above Yep.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I love it.
It's it's.
It's amazing how, uh, so many ofthe things that we are taught
are to control us and instillguilt and shame and judgment and
all these things that we, as ahuman, have an ability to carry
around with us and handicap ourgrowth, our viewpoint and our
(34:01):
choices.
Every single thing that we do inour life, we carry around
injuries that no one can see.
The trauma that gets instilledinside of us probably didn't
come from us, and it's amazinghow what I share with people in
our level one events it's afive-day event.
(34:21):
On level three, I show peoplesomething that it took me a
really long time to learn, thatthis is a so powerful and
literally giving each of us ourown permission to connect, to
not need anyone else'spermission to be, but to be free
and sovereign in our own being.
It's a transformation day thatI've had so many amazing
(34:46):
teachers that I would never,ever say anything negative, but
I will say that so far, I'veseen things and been able to
connect people in a way that Iwant to share more of, because
it's so powerful.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I love that.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I guess the quintessential element to
creating this massive boost insuperpowers it's not just taking
our electrical system that runsthrough our body and connecting
it into our brain sensors andflipping the switches like a
technology, it's getting free ofall the garbage that holds us
back Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So something I say to myselfevery day.
How can I be more of service,how can I have more freedom and
how can I have more abundancewhen I'm connecting with my
higher self?
So those are the three things Iask.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You have to be in service.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
So perfect.
I love that.
So what role does disciplineand daily practice play in
cultivating these abilities?
Can anyone do this?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Or is there a specific prerequisites?
That's a wonderful question.
You know, I always ask mystudents.
I say hey, how much meditationdo you need?
Everybody considers it for amoment before I tell them the
answer is as much as you need.
The reality is that I can seethat, rachel, you've got talent,
skills and abilities all aroundyou in your office that I
(36:08):
definitely do not have.
So I don't have the exact wayfor you, but I have a path for
you to explore it.
I give all the tools for you tobe able to explore it in the
way that is perfect for you.
But I can give you like youknow, we're very structured
people.
We thrive on structure.
I can give you some ideas andsay hey, if you want this, do
this.
If you want this, do this.
(36:28):
If you want this, do this.
But at the end of the day, youare becoming the master or
masteress, if you will of yourown domain.
So, with that in mind, the bigkey to this is yeah, I show you
some things that are superpowerful, like literally doing
the exercise regimen that wehave, that they use in every
(36:51):
branch.
I mean, every soldier inIndonesia does this on a daily
basis, every police officer, thekids in school, everybody's
doing it.
It literally takes five minutes, but in that five minutes you
get a better physiologicalresult, like affecting your
actual connections and musclefiber, every part of your your
(37:12):
being, through your physicalbody and connecting it into your
mind.
Then 45 minutes of doing anyother type of training, will you
know?
A normal workout with a warmup,a full blown workout, cool down
, stretching, all of thesethings we can do it in five
minutes, which then, if you havethat, you use it as a warmup.
Now you're really ready to playhard for that other 40 minutes.
Or, if you want to be, you know, at the end of the day maybe
(37:35):
you're like me, I go really hard, but I'm actually really lazy.
If I could save 40 minutes,that means I have 40 minutes to
play and I've got to go play, soit's like my kind of thing.
Yeah, I well, I, I, I reallywant you know everybody to have
a different experience than thanI did, Cause I had to do the
(37:57):
traditional way as a first youknow, the first in history, and
since I, I literally was I'm theonly person in history that's
ever been adopted by the royalfamily.
I'm the only one that's everbeen given permission to modify
the traditional system thateveryone still does in Indonesia
to get the result for theWestern world.
Because this is about sharing,and one of the greatest things
(38:20):
that I've learned about sharingis that you have to meet people
where they're at.
You can't expect them to alwaysmeet you where you're at, and
you know, if you want to, if youwant to create a new synergy
between you and another person,you've got to have open arms.
It doesn't mean that, you know,you don't necessarily still
have your protective gear onunderneath your clothes, but
(38:40):
you've got to welcome with openarms, right, and so I basically
created all of the tools and thethings that everybody can have
me at their disposal.
I want them to feel thissupport and the ability to walk
the path wherever they are inthe world at any time.
But I give you all the thingsand then it's up to you to
(39:03):
choose.
Hey, what do I feel like today?
What do I feel like today?
It's just like ordering at arestaurant.
I give you the full menu andsome of them are like, hey, I'm
really going into the deeppractice, I'm going to do
da-da-da-da-da-da-da and you'regoing to be playing in that for
an hour, but other times, hey, Ionly got 10 minutes.
Boom, you're want to do any ofthe breaking stuff.
(39:36):
She just wanted the health andfitness and wanted to regenerate
herself from the inside.
She went through the two daysand decided nope, I'm breaking
steel today.
And she broke the steel.
And I just say it's not aboutour body, it's not about our
mind.
It's about putting the twotogether and that's where your
true power will come.
You know that the greatestobstacles we have to finding our
(39:58):
true power are in our body andin our mind, when our body's in
pain, it instantly stresses us,and if we're focused on work,
family, neighbors, you knowwhatever little things that are
stressing us it gets lodged backin our body and then builds up
and we have cumulative stressthat breaks us down from the
inside and creates pain.
So we're literally running thisloop, like a dog chasing its
(40:22):
own tail.
Let's do the shortcut balanceout the body, balance out the
mind, and that will open thegate into the spirit, and that's
what really is running the showanyway.
So if we want to know ourselvesdeeper, we march from both
sides of the field, so to speak,so we can meet in the middle 10
times as fast and blast off.
And I, you know, everybody'spath is different, but the
(40:45):
number one thing that everybodysays is it feels good.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I like that.
That's what matters Feelinggood, absolutely.
So what has been your greatestlesson on this path, either from
the ancient teachings or fromyour own journey through modern
day integration?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
The greatest lesson for me on this path?
The greatest lesson for me onthis path?
Wow, that's a really goodquestion, rachel.
You know what?
I guess the greatest lesson Canit be a run on sentence.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
The greatest lesson is that we can do anything, but
we have to do it because itdoesn't do itself.
And in that, when we dosomething, that's where we feel
the reward.
The reward is the progressbecause we actually exerted
(41:58):
ourself, and in that we loveourself more.
I guess I should say easy come,easy go.
If something just falls in yourlap, you don't value it usually
, but when you actually exploreit and you develop something,
you put effort into it, then youfeel pride.
And pride is not actually beingopen to what is and keeping the
(42:30):
interior wall closed downbecause you know, but being for
having pride in yourself andwhat you do, in your own being.
That is something that has to beearned.
No one else can give it to you,right?
You know, everyone else cantell you that you're amazing
looking, and yet when you lookin the mirror maybe you don't
(42:51):
see that.
Yeah, everyone can tell youthat you're super funny, but at
the end of the day maybe youdon't feel like it, and so
that's it.
I guess You're more beautifulthan you think, and when you
actually do something is whenyou feel it.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Absolutely, absolutely.
I love that.
That was a great answer.
Now this is our.
That was a great answer?
No, it's.
It reminds you that an attitudeof gratitude and really being
open to the experience of lifeand meeting people where they're
at it's such a valuableexperience.
You know, and going in thisjourney and you know you've had
(43:34):
in a 30 plus year journey ofthis to get to where you are now
it's, it's amazing, Like it'sso cool and to have being able
to open the arms and bringpeople along is so cool.
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
So you know, I tell you that once again, service and
giving is like the thing thatreally lights me up.
I love sharing, but you knowyou have to be sharing with the
right crowd.
Once again that when you findyour people and actually you
invigorate each other, that islike the greatest feeling
(44:09):
because we know that we're it'sokay if we're crazy, as long as
we're the right kind of crazyand we find our crazy friends
right facts facts.
You want to feel energized whenyou leave a situation and not
feel like yes yes, well, andeven more than that being able
(44:29):
to create shielding that isactually powerful enough that
you get to maintain your owncenter so you can walk into the
middle of the war zone, come outsmelling like a rose as a once
again just want to give morelove and more appreciation to
you for the work that you do asa nurse.
That is one of the hardest,most most brutal jobs.
(44:52):
On the interior, on your spirit, when you see people suffer, it
is rough and I just want to saythat that's why I also find a
massive calling toward healing,because nothing feels better
than turning frowns upside downand that could be the smallest
thing, but you do it in a bigway.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Well, so do you, and I bet for you too, because this
is the same for me.
When someone has that ahamoment and you see the switch
turn on, you're like and thenyou see, their journey unfold.
You're like I love you, it's socool it is so cool to bless
others on their path.
Yes, because we're just part ofthe wheel.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
That's it, and every time we help someone else, it's
helping us.
Yes, that's really reallypowerful.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
So for our last question and I'll make sure that
I link everything in thisinterview because he has a lot
to offer, which is amazing Forlisteners who feel curious but
skeptical, or maybe feel a bitintimidated what's one simple,
actual step they can take todayto start unlocking their hidden
potential?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Well, I have been working on a lot of different
things to be able to leteverybody try it at whatever
level they're at.
If you go to justvibravisioncom, which is
V-I-B-R-A-V-I-S-I-O-Ncom,there's a plethora of different
options that you can find inthere.
You can actually also go tomossmikecom, which is
(46:23):
M-A-S-M-I-K-Ecom, which isM-A-S-M-I-K-E dot com, and I
think they're putting a new onein there, slash gift, and it's a
free gift where literally youcan try the first energy
exercise that anyone ever learnsin the former Patiputi system
or VibraVision.
And even if you've been doingenergy work for 30 years or
you've never done a day in yourlife and you're super skeptical
(46:46):
when you try this, if youactually do the exercise which
it's a little series of videosthat teach you how to do it and
then run you through it youcan't help but feel it.
And when you feel it, you willlove it.
And this is the biggest thingthat I will say.
We've already been through thegamut.
I'm working with a whole otherbatch of scientists on
consciousness that we've alreadyproven it.
(47:06):
We, a whole other batch ofscientists on consciousness that
are we've already proven it.
We already know that this isreal, that we're not cheating,
it's not magic.
It's not an illusion that we'rewe're not pulling the wool over
anybody's eyes.
Actually, we're doing this forreal, that this exists.
So the next stage is you have toprove it to yourself, and this
is it.
No one can do that but you.
(47:29):
So I would say, definitely go,try the energy intro experience.
I'll teach you the firstexercise.
You get to run through it andif you do it, you will
definitely feel something.
And then, if you want to godeeper down the rabbit hole,
we've got online programs.
You can actually do it in thecomfort of your own home.
We have in-person events.
There's a series of those thatare coming up.
We have new events that arecoming all the time, and all of
that is in the calendar on thewebsite that.
(47:51):
There's just tons of differentoptions.
We want to meet you whereyou're at.
We want you to be happy,healthy and freaking awesome in
whatever it is that you're doing, because our life is short and
it's going to be over before weknow it.
We have got every right to beour authentic selves genuine,
sovereign and super fun.
And if you're struggling withsomething, this is like the
(48:14):
master reset button.
I promise it's like the onlyway I could really explain.
It is like the old Pepto-Bismolcommercials.
It's like if you have upset,stomach or heartburn or this,
that they go down the whole listdrink the pink stuff.
Well, this is like that forlife.
Whether you're doing physicalstuff, you're doing mental stuff
or you're looking for thespiritual aspect.
(48:35):
This is like the VIP bullettrain ticket to get you what you
want and more.
So definitely check outvibravisioncom or mossmikecom
and come play.
I can't wait to see you outthere in the real world.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
I love it.
Thank you so much for coming onthe Spiritual Spotlight Series.
It's truly been amazing toconnect with you today.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Oh, thank you, Rachel .
You're amazing and you shine sobright.
I can't wait to play with youtoo.
Thank you.
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