January 13, 2025 • 17 mins
Unlock information for maintaining a healthy home environment and protect your loved ones from unseen hazards. Have you ever wondered if your home's air could be silently impacting your health? Join us as we share an intriguing story of our environmental home inspection journey, revealing startling findings that go beyond the surface. We recount a fascinating case involving a unique home with a mysterious past linked to unusual diseases. Through comprehensive testing for radon, heavy metals, VOCs, and more, discover why these inspections are crucial for health-conscious homeowners and what hidden dangers might be lurking in your living space.
Laura and I also shed light on the often-overlooked menace of mold and mycotoxins, discussing how these can persist even after standard remediation efforts. Hear how one homeowner's persistent health issues were traced back to indoor air quality, emphasizing the need for specialized treatments. We make the case for routine home maintenance inspections, recommending a biennial schedule to catch potential issues before they escalate. Whether it's the peace of mind from gifting an inspection or the proactive approach to maintaining a safe home, our conversation provides essential insights and practical tips for a sound living environment.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Standing Out in Ohio podcast,
where we discuss topics,upcoming events, news and
predictions with real estateprofessionals and entrepreneurs.
Listen and learn what makestheir companies and themselves
stand out and gain advantagesover the competition and gain
market share.
Subscribe for the latest newsand discussion on what it takes
(00:23):
to stand out from the crowd.
Now here's your host, jim.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hey everybody, Welcome to the Standing Out Wild
podcast.
This is Jim and, of course,with me is Laura.
Hello everybody, Welcome to theStanding Out Loud podcast.
This is Jim, Of course with meis Laura.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hello everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
The Office.
Goddess, you have a title.
You've had this title for along time.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
How long has it been?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Tell everybody how you found out your title.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
We were going to some kind of an event somewhere and
you had stopped to meet somebodywho had done name tags up for
us.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Oh no, I already did things online.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Oh wait really.
Okay so anyways, you get thename tags, we get to this event
and you just put it on my shirtLike I don't.
You know, I was trusting, Ilove you, I trusted you and all
of a sudden, as we're walkingaround, people are looking at
the name tag and laughing and Iwas just like God, what did he
do?
Yep, that's what he did so.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It said Laura Tromp.
Underneath it it said office,goddess.
So that's been years, that'sbeen a long time.
That's been a long time.
So anyway, today let's talkabout we All right homeless
question.
We're not just when somebody'sbuying a house.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Listed through MLS, through real estate.
Don't need any of that stuff inorder to do a home inspection.
You can call a home inspectioncompany.
Just do a maintenanceinspection for you, which I
think is an awesome Christmasgift or just an anniversary gift
for your parents.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, like that one that we just did, where the
parents had just recently diedand they were looking to buy the
house from their estate.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yes, so let's talk.
We're going to talk about thatinspection, that whole situation
.
Of course, no names, of course,but just as well as to know
that you do not have to have alicense to listen to a real
estate agent or agency to doinspections.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
But first let's listen to this Habitation
investigation is the way to gofor a home inspection in Ohio.
Trusted licensed homeinspectors for your needs.
From radon to mold towarranties For a great home
inspection, you really can't gowrong.
(02:51):
Visit homeinspectionsinohiocomAll right, laura.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So a family, parents passed away Of really weird shit
.
Yes, yes, not you thinknormally old age or something
like that and they pass awaybecause of that weird odd, like
odd diseases odd diseases, tothe point that the doctors told
(03:21):
them it was environmental, notgenetic, correct?
so people, siblings, whichthere's a bunch of, them that
the doctors told them it wasenvironmental, not genetic
Correct.
So people, it's the siblingswhich there's a bunch of them
own the house now through theestate Right.
One of them wants to buy itfrom the others and then one of
them wants to sell it all out.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
They wanted to buy it from the estate.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
However.
So we and these are healthconscious people, which makes
sense, I think, people livingthere for a long time died of
unusual circumstances which thedoctor says environmental.
So we went there and we didwell, I did the whole house
inspection because that had notbeen done.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You did that in two weeks.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yes, I did that termite, you did all the
environmental testing.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I have done more chain of custodies in that one
inspection than I have ever donebefore.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So a lot of people think they think environmental,
they're thinking mold testing,that's probably all they think,
or radon, that's all most agentsthink about.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
But there was so much .
Speaker 2 (04:26):
What all did you test for?
We did radon right.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So I set up radon test.
We set up so there's also a wayto do an air test where it
tests for heavy metals in theair, and that was an eight hour
test.
That was the first one.
I got started because it was aneight-hour test it has to suck
(04:49):
air for eight hours.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Now, that was an unusual one to do, because you
think heavy metals.
Why would I ever need to dotests for metals in the air?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So there was a reason for that.
There was a reason for this,this house.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
it was built with a wooden foundation, which is not
commonly done.
It was more of a popular thingto do in the past.
They still can be done, but yougot to really control your
moisture if you have a woodenfoundation.
But back in the 80s they usedcopper arsenic to pressure treat
(05:25):
the wood.
Okay, so it may have been.
They had a concern about theircopper arsenic being in the air,
which that is legit, becausethat stuff will out gas or or
you know, come out first coupleyears.
Don't know if it's still thereor not right, we're gonna find
out, we're gonna find out sothere was that.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Then I did soil testing.
So we did two samples out wherehe was going to do the garden.
So one of those was for heavymetals and another one is for
something called SVOCs.
So it's similar to a VOC thatwe do in terms of like air
(06:07):
quality testing, but thischemical is a little bit
different because it stays inthe soil and it's not released
into the air.
So I did that out by the garden.
Then I did the heavy metal onenear the house to see if
anything was leaching from thehouse, you know, like where they
were walking in, where thatmight've impacted.
(06:29):
Okay, um, I did a formaldehyde,I did a voc test, I did a very,
very, very huge water sampletest.
That's like an advancedenvironmental water scan or
(06:50):
something like that, it willlook for a scrap ton of stuff,
like there were two huge literbottles.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So the new test for you and I was the soil and the
metal, and the metal in the air.
Yeah, metal in the air.
I could see that you had awelding company.
That could be.
I would doubt there's a metalfoot in the air there, because
you don't want to breathe thatin, which is the issue of
welding company.
That could be.
I would doubt there's a metalsplit in the air there because
you don't want to breathe thatin, which is the issue of
welding zinc.
You don't want to breathe thatstuff in.
(07:16):
But those are different tests.
But there's so many things thatcan be looked at, because
they're going to do somegardening so they want to make
sure the soil is notcontaminated, which makes me
wonder was anything else goingon in the past on that land that
they're aware of?
But they would have told us ifthat was the issue, if that was
(07:38):
a concern.
The guy they got a nice guy, Imean they're all the very
concerned.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, they were super sweet.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah and they were smoking meat all day.
Oh, I know it smelled amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
They had a party as we were leaving and I'm like you
know, yeah well, we went to.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Well, we didn't stay there the whole time while the
test was going.
So we I did inspection, thetermite did all that stuff you
got your stuff done except forthe, the eight hour one.
Well, that was still going.
We left and went, grabbed food.
We got some food, we did alittle shopping and came back
after the test was done andpicked it up, so it was good.
But copper arsenic, which iswhat they used to use for
(08:18):
pressure wood.
They stopped that in 2003.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
That long, yes Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Which is why you should never burn pressure wood
to cook over, because it couldhave the arsenic in that smoke
that could get on your hot dogsor your marshmallows that you're
cooking over the fire.
That's why you never usepressure tree wood for campfires
while we're cooking fires.
I don't know what they use now.
(08:46):
I think another copper of sometype.
Was it soda light?
What's that?
Blue stuff, blue mineral Ithink they use.
Now I can't remember what it isLapis.
I can't think of what it is, Idon't know.
But anyway that was aninteresting place, nice house,
(09:06):
nice location, very unique, veryunique house.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It was cool.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And they had a roof metal roof that was like 15
years old.
They were guessing.
I couldn't see it.
It was completely snow covered.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Because this was, you know, the day of the snow.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Oh yeah, it was not possible.
I did find leaks, though, goingon in the attic space, so they
need to have a roof, so theyneed to have that roof.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, that, yeah.
Come back and redo things onthat.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, I gave him the the list, our preferred
professionals list.
So he's got that.
All yeah.
What's?
What's another environmentaltest you have done?
Before you did one for smokingI've also done it for thc the
one for the smoking I was.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I didn't need the test.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Wait, wait it was an apartment building.
It was an apartment building.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
There were four different units in it.
When they signed the lease forthe apartment, they signed that
there would not be any smokingin the apartment.
Okay, okay so apparently one ofthe people in the apartment had
been complaining that he wassmelling cigarette smoke, so
they needed this air qualitytest done.
So I was able with my nose, Iknew who did what, but it was
(10:14):
corroborated by the test, and soI told him who it was that was
doing the smoking and who it wasthat had complained, and I
nailed it perfectly.
And I'm sure that one woman gotkicked out because she was
smoking.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
She was a smoker.
Now that some some people sayas a joke that women are very
sensitive to smells and they'rejust picky, picky creatures.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But it is legit that women have more 30% more nerve
endings and stuff in our nosesthan men do.
Factory receptors.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Maybe is the proper name, but yeah 30% more than men
do.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
30% more than men do.
So when you've got somebodygoing, I don't smell that.
That may very well be truebecause women tend to have
better noses than guys do so,guys.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
if a woman says you stink, you probably stink, you
probably stink, you just don'trealize it.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You probably burned out your old back.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You burned out your nose, that's why you can't smell
anything you burn out over nicecampfires in which you're not
burning pressure wood.
But yeah, so you've done THC.
What was that?
I don't remember that one Wasthat for a teenager?
Yeah, somebody's anotherapartment.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Somebody was smoking in it okay and I.
Then that was that one in thenicotine, one they had to reset
because they only do those everyso often.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
But yeah, I, I can tell the lab has to reset their
equipment.
They have to reset theequipment for those specific
ones.
So so yeah.
So if you're, you don't evenneed to be buying a house.
If you want some testing donein your house, you can call
Habitation Investigation.
We could do the testing, oryour.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Environmental Consultants of Ohio has been
doing more too.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Which is another company Laura started.
Who wants to maybe relaxsomeday?
But she started another company.
You've had this for a couple ofyears.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's six years old now.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Environmental Consultants of Ohio, which is
specifically for environmentaltesting phase ones, if they're
doing a commercial purchase.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
We had a call over the weekend.
Last week she and I have beentexting.
She's been sick for about ninemonths, no clue what's going on.
Her doctor's telling her she'scrazy.
She's done all the tests, soshe goes to a functional med doc
now.
(12:45):
And no, this is the one comingup where we're going to be doing
stuff next week for her.
And so at this point she poppedpositive for two types of
mycotoxins.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
So at this point we're trying to figure out the
potential for food environmental, because one of the things that
we've seen is like, let's say,you have a mold issue in your
house and you have somebody comein and remediate it.
Well, if they don't kill all ofthat mold first before they try
(13:22):
cleaning it up, that mold willrelease mycotoxins in the air.
So you might be done with themold.
If they come in and do aclearance test, the mold is gone
, but there could be mycotoxinsleft behind and if you're moving
or selling the house, somebodycoming in could be sensitive to
those eventually, because thiswoman's been here for three
(13:43):
years and so for the last ninemonths she's not been doing well
.
So that could have yeah, itcould have built up in her
system.
There could be, you know, maybethere's stuff on the countertop
that is getting into food she'seating.
I, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
At this point we can do another thing on the
mycotoxins which you can have.
Mycotoxins come from molds butwhen you clean the mold up and
filter out, the spores get ridof those.
Mycotoxins are so small they'renot going to get caught in your
HEPA filter.
They need special treatment andmost companies don't know how
(14:21):
to handle it.
They don't know how to do it,don't want to do it and they
want to ignore it because theycan do mold cleanup.
People are still getting sickbecause of the mold and that it
produced mold that was there Iproduced.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Some mycotoxins are still lingering in the house, so
so yeah, we should do one onmycotoxins and explain a little
bit more because I'm still goingthrough classes and working on
that normie designationdesignation for it.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
So yeah, so so yeah, lauren's very, very
knowledgeable on indoor airquality and mold working my way
there yes, you know.
You know more, a lot more thana lot of mold companies do so.
So anyway, so inspections don'thave to be done just because
you're somebody's buying a housethe other one that we did.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
So there was a married couple and she was the
one that was complaining shewasn't feeling well just the
mycotoxin one no, this was amold one oh, okay, so jim and I
go out and we're gonna just domold testing.
So as I'm down with thegentleman, he's showing me some
things, all of a sudden I hearsomething weird and we go back
(15:31):
into the back maintenance roomand his sump pump discharge pipe
came loose and was gushingwater all over that little
utility room.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
It had been loose for a couple months.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
We were figuring it had been loose for at least
eight months, because that's howlong that woman's been sick,
and shutting off the furnacedownstairs, they are lucky, it
was a dry summer.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
They are lucky, it's been a dry.
It was a dry summer.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
They're very lucky.
So we talked with them aboutmaintenance inspections and
contacting us.
Once, you know, all thecraziness of the holidays went
through because they've neverbeen up in their attic, they've
not been down in, you know, likeany of the crawl space areas.
They haven't looked at theirstuff.
They're both medicalprofessionals, so they're both
(16:17):
crazy busy.
They don't know what they'relooking at, even if they had the
time.
So they're very interested indoing a maintenance inspection
every couple of years, just sothey don't have to.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
And they don't have to worry.
Well, radon is supposed to bedone every two years.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Every two years.
So I figured just do themaintenance inspection every two
years.
That's enough to catch you know, like if the roof is starting
to go without it being too bad.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, that makes sense to me.
So, yeah, all right.
Well, that's it for this one.
Thank you everybody.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
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(00:23):
to stand out from the crowd.
Now here's your host, jim.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hey everybody, Welcome to the Standing Out Wild
podcast.
This is Jim and, of course,with me is Laura.
Hello everybody, Welcome to theStanding Out Loud podcast.
This is Jim, Of course with meis Laura.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hello everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
The Office.
Goddess, you have a title.
You've had this title for along time.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
How long has it been?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Tell everybody how you found out your title.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
We were going to some kind of an event somewhere and
you had stopped to meet somebodywho had done name tags up for
us.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Oh no, I already did things online.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Oh wait really.
Okay so anyways, you get thename tags, we get to this event
and you just put it on my shirtLike I don't.
You know, I was trusting, Ilove you, I trusted you and all
of a sudden, as we're walkingaround, people are looking at
the name tag and laughing and Iwas just like God, what did he
do?
Yep, that's what he did so.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It said Laura Tromp.
Underneath it it said office,goddess.
So that's been years, that'sbeen a long time.
That's been a long time.
So anyway, today let's talkabout we All right homeless
question.
We're not just when somebody'sbuying a house.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Listed through MLS, through real estate.
Don't need any of that stuff inorder to do a home inspection.
You can call a home inspectioncompany.
Just do a maintenanceinspection for you, which I
think is an awesome Christmasgift or just an anniversary gift
for your parents.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, like that one that we just did, where the
parents had just recently diedand they were looking to buy the
house from their estate.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yes, so let's talk.
We're going to talk about thatinspection, that whole situation
.
Of course, no names, of course,but just as well as to know
that you do not have to have alicense to listen to a real
estate agent or agency to doinspections.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
But first let's listen to this Habitation
investigation is the way to gofor a home inspection in Ohio.
Trusted licensed homeinspectors for your needs.
From radon to mold towarranties For a great home
inspection, you really can't gowrong.
(02:51):
Visit homeinspectionsinohiocomAll right, laura.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So a family, parents passed away Of really weird shit
.
Yes, yes, not you thinknormally old age or something
like that and they pass awaybecause of that weird odd, like
odd diseases odd diseases, tothe point that the doctors told
(03:21):
them it was environmental, notgenetic, correct?
so people, siblings, whichthere's a bunch of, them that
the doctors told them it wasenvironmental, not genetic
Correct.
So people, it's the siblingswhich there's a bunch of them
own the house now through theestate Right.
One of them wants to buy itfrom the others and then one of
them wants to sell it all out.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
They wanted to buy it from the estate.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
However.
So we and these are healthconscious people, which makes
sense, I think, people livingthere for a long time died of
unusual circumstances which thedoctor says environmental.
So we went there and we didwell, I did the whole house
inspection because that had notbeen done.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You did that in two weeks.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yes, I did that termite, you did all the
environmental testing.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I have done more chain of custodies in that one
inspection than I have ever donebefore.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So a lot of people think they think environmental,
they're thinking mold testing,that's probably all they think,
or radon, that's all most agentsthink about.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
But there was so much .
Speaker 2 (04:26):
What all did you test for?
We did radon right.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So I set up radon test.
We set up so there's also a wayto do an air test where it
tests for heavy metals in theair, and that was an eight hour
test.
That was the first one.
I got started because it was aneight-hour test it has to suck
(04:49):
air for eight hours.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Now, that was an unusual one to do, because you
think heavy metals.
Why would I ever need to dotests for metals in the air?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So there was a reason for that.
There was a reason for this,this house.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
it was built with a wooden foundation, which is not
commonly done.
It was more of a popular thingto do in the past.
They still can be done, but yougot to really control your
moisture if you have a woodenfoundation.
But back in the 80s they usedcopper arsenic to pressure treat
(05:25):
the wood.
Okay, so it may have been.
They had a concern about theircopper arsenic being in the air,
which that is legit, becausethat stuff will out gas or or
you know, come out first coupleyears.
Don't know if it's still thereor not right, we're gonna find
out, we're gonna find out sothere was that.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Then I did soil testing.
So we did two samples out wherehe was going to do the garden.
So one of those was for heavymetals and another one is for
something called SVOCs.
So it's similar to a VOC thatwe do in terms of like air
(06:07):
quality testing, but thischemical is a little bit
different because it stays inthe soil and it's not released
into the air.
So I did that out by the garden.
Then I did the heavy metal onenear the house to see if
anything was leaching from thehouse, you know, like where they
were walking in, where thatmight've impacted.
(06:29):
Okay, um, I did a formaldehyde,I did a voc test, I did a very,
very, very huge water sampletest.
That's like an advancedenvironmental water scan or
(06:50):
something like that, it willlook for a scrap ton of stuff,
like there were two huge literbottles.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So the new test for you and I was the soil and the
metal, and the metal in the air.
Yeah, metal in the air.
I could see that you had awelding company.
That could be.
I would doubt there's a metalfoot in the air there, because
you don't want to breathe thatin, which is the issue of
welding company.
That could be.
I would doubt there's a metalsplit in the air there because
you don't want to breathe thatin, which is the issue of
welding zinc.
You don't want to breathe thatstuff in.
(07:16):
But those are different tests.
But there's so many things thatcan be looked at, because
they're going to do somegardening so they want to make
sure the soil is notcontaminated, which makes me
wonder was anything else goingon in the past on that land that
they're aware of?
But they would have told us ifthat was the issue, if that was
(07:38):
a concern.
The guy they got a nice guy, Imean they're all the very
concerned.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, they were super sweet.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah and they were smoking meat all day.
Oh, I know it smelled amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
They had a party as we were leaving and I'm like you
know, yeah well, we went to.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Well, we didn't stay there the whole time while the
test was going.
So we I did inspection, thetermite did all that stuff you
got your stuff done except forthe, the eight hour one.
Well, that was still going.
We left and went, grabbed food.
We got some food, we did alittle shopping and came back
after the test was done andpicked it up, so it was good.
But copper arsenic, which iswhat they used to use for
(08:18):
pressure wood.
They stopped that in 2003.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
That long, yes Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Which is why you should never burn pressure wood
to cook over, because it couldhave the arsenic in that smoke
that could get on your hot dogsor your marshmallows that you're
cooking over the fire.
That's why you never usepressure tree wood for campfires
while we're cooking fires.
I don't know what they use now.
(08:46):
I think another copper of sometype.
Was it soda light?
What's that?
Blue stuff, blue mineral Ithink they use.
Now I can't remember what it isLapis.
I can't think of what it is, Idon't know.
But anyway that was aninteresting place, nice house,
(09:06):
nice location, very unique, veryunique house.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It was cool.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And they had a roof metal roof that was like 15
years old.
They were guessing.
I couldn't see it.
It was completely snow covered.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Because this was, you know, the day of the snow.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Oh yeah, it was not possible.
I did find leaks, though, goingon in the attic space, so they
need to have a roof, so theyneed to have that roof.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, that, yeah.
Come back and redo things onthat.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, I gave him the the list, our preferred
professionals list.
So he's got that.
All yeah.
What's?
What's another environmentaltest you have done?
Before you did one for smokingI've also done it for thc the
one for the smoking I was.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I didn't need the test.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Wait, wait it was an apartment building.
It was an apartment building.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
There were four different units in it.
When they signed the lease forthe apartment, they signed that
there would not be any smokingin the apartment.
Okay, okay so apparently one ofthe people in the apartment had
been complaining that he wassmelling cigarette smoke, so
they needed this air qualitytest done.
So I was able with my nose, Iknew who did what, but it was
(10:14):
corroborated by the test, and soI told him who it was that was
doing the smoking and who it wasthat had complained, and I
nailed it perfectly.
And I'm sure that one woman gotkicked out because she was
smoking.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
She was a smoker.
Now that some some people sayas a joke that women are very
sensitive to smells and they'rejust picky, picky creatures.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But it is legit that women have more 30% more nerve
endings and stuff in our nosesthan men do.
Factory receptors.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Maybe is the proper name, but yeah 30% more than men
do.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
30% more than men do.
So when you've got somebodygoing, I don't smell that.
That may very well be truebecause women tend to have
better noses than guys do so,guys.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
if a woman says you stink, you probably stink, you
probably stink, you just don'trealize it.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You probably burned out your old back.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You burned out your nose, that's why you can't smell
anything you burn out over nicecampfires in which you're not
burning pressure wood.
But yeah, so you've done THC.
What was that?
I don't remember that one Wasthat for a teenager?
Yeah, somebody's anotherapartment.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Somebody was smoking in it okay and I.
Then that was that one in thenicotine, one they had to reset
because they only do those everyso often.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
But yeah, I, I can tell the lab has to reset their
equipment.
They have to reset theequipment for those specific
ones.
So so yeah.
So if you're, you don't evenneed to be buying a house.
If you want some testing donein your house, you can call
Habitation Investigation.
We could do the testing, oryour.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Environmental Consultants of Ohio has been
doing more too.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Which is another company Laura started.
Who wants to maybe relaxsomeday?
But she started another company.
You've had this for a couple ofyears.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's six years old now.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Environmental Consultants of Ohio, which is
specifically for environmentaltesting phase ones, if they're
doing a commercial purchase.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
We had a call over the weekend.
Last week she and I have beentexting.
She's been sick for about ninemonths, no clue what's going on.
Her doctor's telling her she'scrazy.
She's done all the tests, soshe goes to a functional med doc
now.
(12:45):
And no, this is the one comingup where we're going to be doing
stuff next week for her.
And so at this point she poppedpositive for two types of
mycotoxins.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
So at this point we're trying to figure out the
potential for food environmental, because one of the things that
we've seen is like, let's say,you have a mold issue in your
house and you have somebody comein and remediate it.
Well, if they don't kill all ofthat mold first before they try
(13:22):
cleaning it up, that mold willrelease mycotoxins in the air.
So you might be done with themold.
If they come in and do aclearance test, the mold is gone
, but there could be mycotoxinsleft behind and if you're moving
or selling the house, somebodycoming in could be sensitive to
those eventually, because thiswoman's been here for three
(13:43):
years and so for the last ninemonths she's not been doing well
.
So that could have yeah, itcould have built up in her
system.
There could be, you know, maybethere's stuff on the countertop
that is getting into food she'seating.
I, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
At this point we can do another thing on the
mycotoxins which you can have.
Mycotoxins come from molds butwhen you clean the mold up and
filter out, the spores get ridof those.
Mycotoxins are so small they'renot going to get caught in your
HEPA filter.
They need special treatment andmost companies don't know how
(14:21):
to handle it.
They don't know how to do it,don't want to do it and they
want to ignore it because theycan do mold cleanup.
People are still getting sickbecause of the mold and that it
produced mold that was there Iproduced.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Some mycotoxins are still lingering in the house, so
so yeah, we should do one onmycotoxins and explain a little
bit more because I'm still goingthrough classes and working on
that normie designationdesignation for it.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
So yeah, so so yeah, lauren's very, very
knowledgeable on indoor airquality and mold working my way
there yes, you know.
You know more, a lot more thana lot of mold companies do so.
So anyway, so inspections don'thave to be done just because
you're somebody's buying a housethe other one that we did.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
So there was a married couple and she was the
one that was complaining shewasn't feeling well just the
mycotoxin one no, this was amold one oh, okay, so jim and I
go out and we're gonna just domold testing.
So as I'm down with thegentleman, he's showing me some
things, all of a sudden I hearsomething weird and we go back
(15:31):
into the back maintenance roomand his sump pump discharge pipe
came loose and was gushingwater all over that little
utility room.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
It had been loose for a couple months.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
We were figuring it had been loose for at least
eight months, because that's howlong that woman's been sick,
and shutting off the furnacedownstairs, they are lucky, it
was a dry summer.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
They are lucky, it's been a dry.
It was a dry summer.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
They're very lucky.
So we talked with them aboutmaintenance inspections and
contacting us.
Once, you know, all thecraziness of the holidays went
through because they've neverbeen up in their attic, they've
not been down in, you know, likeany of the crawl space areas.
They haven't looked at theirstuff.
They're both medicalprofessionals, so they're both
(16:17):
crazy busy.
They don't know what they'relooking at, even if they had the
time.
So they're very interested indoing a maintenance inspection
every couple of years, just sothey don't have to.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
And they don't have to worry.
Well, radon is supposed to bedone every two years.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Every two years.
So I figured just do themaintenance inspection every two
years.
That's enough to catch you know, like if the roof is starting
to go without it being too bad.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, that makes sense to me.
So, yeah, all right.
Well, that's it for this one.
Thank you everybody.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Have a great day.
Bye.
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