Kathleen Kennedy Sets The Record (DEADLINE Interview) | Andor Season 2 Trailer Breakdown - Star Wars Escape Pod

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And we are chatting all about the new Andor Season 2 trailer.

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We've had to make adjustments to prioritize this one and rearrange the release dates of our other episodes
so that we get this out faster.
But yeah, we're looking forward to bringing that down.
As well as some headlines about Kathleen Kennedy speaking out on her Lucasfilm plans.
And we're going through an interview that she had with Deadline.com

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about all of the great stuff happening over at Lucasfilm and her plans at the company.
So, let's get into it.

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Alright, hello there. Welcome back, Kirk.
Oh, it's good to be back.
Awesome, good to have you back.
And welcome back, Matt. It's been a few weeks since Skeleton Crew.

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Hello, hello, hello.
Hello.
Alright, and we will bring in Blake in a little bit once we get to the Andor stuff.
But in the meantime, let's just kick things off right out of the gate.
Big news about Kathleen Kennedy.
I know we were just talking about this off-air just before.
But basically, like what you were saying, Matt,

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there's just been a lot of stuff going around on the internet about this.
So, this is an interview that she did with Deadline.com.
And the headline is, Kathleen Kennedy speaks on her Lucasfilm plans.
She is not soon retiring.
And the films that will keep her in Star Wars orbit for years to come.
So, I guess the reason why we're talking about this is because there has been a lot of stuff going out there.

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And, you know, finally some news journalist site was able to get to the bottom of things
and ask the woman exactly what the deal is, you know.
And, you know, I think like it's so annoying any time this happens
with these particular headlines and these particular bits of news.
Because like, you know, every single time it happens is not true, right.

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And it's just the most annoying thing.
And I honestly feel for the woman a lot because like, you know,
if somebody was talking about me like that, like every single year,
like, oh man, like, you know, like, you know, Josh is going to quit his job
and this and that or like whatever, you know, that would freaking suck, you know.
Like, I wouldn't like that.
So, I'm kind of glad that...
There's pockets of people that are excited about it.

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Like tons of people are excited about it too at the same time.
What do you feel, Verbal?
Well, that's just it, right.
Like, you know, yeah.
Like if people were excited that I was leaving my job,
like that would really suck.
So, you know, we get to the bottom of things here.
So, let's start off.
I think that in combination with the South Park episode
may not have her in the best headspace after this tumultuous tenure.

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Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
I think that's, yeah.
That's very true.
That's a good point.
It's a thing.
Exactly.
Okay.
Also, before we get started reading through this thing,
we got to welcome Darian who just popped in.
Welcome back, Darian.
Thank you much, Lee.

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This is the way.
This is the way.
All right.
Cool.
So, let's get going here.
Deadline says,
we've read all these speculative reports that you are out
and there's a frenzy for the next person
who's going to take over Lucasfilm.
What is the truth?
So, I will read exactly what she says to Deadline here.

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The truth is, and I want to just say loud and clear,
I am not retiring.
I will never retire from movies.
I will die making movies.
That is the first thing that's important to say.
I'm not retiring.
What's happening at Lucasfilm is
I have been talking for quite some time with both Bob and Alan
about what eventual succession might look like.
We have an amazing bench of people here
and we have every intention of making an announcement

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months or a year down the road.
We're in lockstep as to what's going to be
and I am continuing.
I'm producing The Mandalorian movie right now
and I'm also producing Sean Levy's movie,
which is after that.
So, I'm continuing to stay at Lucasfilm
and looking very thoughtfully with Bob and Alan
as to who's stepping in.
So, that is all underway
and we have every right to make that announcement

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when we want to make it.
And that's the cut to the chase little paragraph there.
There's a lot more to this.
Is Sean Levy doing a Star Wars film
or is that a separate Lucasfilm property
that he's directing with her?
No, that is a Star Wars movie actually.
That was announced, I think, within the last year.
I feel like it came up.
I believe, but yeah.

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There's been a lot of Star Wars projects
that have been announced
and not at Celebration, not at Comic-Con,
but just on the side.
I think one of those projects
is the Simon Kinberg produced Star Wars movie as well.
So, you know, there's a lot going on.
And as we know from Rogue Squadron,
from Rangers of the New Republic,

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from the Boba Fett movie,
the Obi-Wan trilogy,
there's been a number of things
as the years have gone by
that just haven't eventually made it out.
And that's fine.
Changes happen and whatnot,
but I do wish that they kept a lot of this under wraps
before people started buzzing about it,
but whatever.
Anyways.

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Right.
They leaked it too early.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
So Deadline asks her another question.
They say that you were looking within
seems to give credence to what we've heard
that an executive chief,
like Chief Creative Officer Dave Filoni,
is in a good position
as he works on a Star Wars to write and direct.
And Kathleen says,

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I can't say who it is
because it was just an internal process
that goes on inside a large corporation
and a publicly held company
as to how we go about making deals,
finalizing decisions and making announcements.
There's nothing unusual about that
and we're in that process.
So, you know,
if that clears everything up
about whether or not Dave Filoni will take over.
I honestly don't think it's a great idea

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if Dave Filoni takes like CEO of Luke's film personally.
I think he should just focus on the creative stuff.
Absolutely.
They should split the job
and make it like a business side
and a creative side, you know,
which I don't know if it works already like that.
But yeah.
Yeah, I think this role is very much so a business pen pusher,
you know, managing budgets, timelines, finances.
And I think it takes someone

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that's quite good at understanding
what creative projects to, you know, push forward,
but not necessarily being creatively involved.
I don't think,
I think Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau
are probably everyone's most top of mind
two people to take over in the future.
But I don't know.
I don't feel like they're the best people
in that specific role.
Yeah.

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What's your take on that, Matt?
Yeah, I'm kind of torn too as well.
And also too, I think Jon and Dave,
like they should be creative.
Get creative.
We just need that business person in there
to help be their backbone.
And we know Kathleen's not it either, you know.
Right.
Back in her heyday during Jurassic Park
and all the crazy stuff that she figured out
as a producer and coming up as a PA back in the day.
Yeah.

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Like direction manager and as a producer,
she's been great.
I think in her run of like casting
in her prime of like the 90s,
but I think it's time, right, to pass the torch.
But if it's not, then hopefully she can mentor
someone else to be that business position.
But there should always be like,
you know how like a Pixar and stuff
that you should always have the tech balancing out
and pushing the creative and the creative pushing the tech.

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So kind of the same thing with creatives.
Like, yeah, same thing.
Like with say like a production,
even like down to the day-to-day tasks in production
where you have a production manager
and the creative head of the department.
You know, like you kind of need that,
those two working together.
So I think we need someone like that there.
Let Dave be creative, please.
Hmm. Yeah.

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I have a feeling with this, with this.
Oh, sorry. Sorry, Josh.
Oh, go for it. Go for it.
No, I was just going to at least comment on
what I think with what Kathleen Kennedy's situation here is.
I think like her first response talking about
how like she's going to die making movies
and she's not, she's going to retire once.
Like she's never going to retire type of thing.
I feel like in her position,

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like she might consider herself to be a little bit more limited with,
you know, the type of IP that she can play with
as head of Lucasfilm.
And I reckon that like these reports are probably,
you know, she'll want to go out on her own accord,
but like, I feel like they're going to be pretty accurate
purely because I have a feeling she wants to go out
and do her own projects outside of the Lucasfilm IP.

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So I wouldn't be surprised within the next year
after at least Andor comes out
and perhaps potentially once the Mandalorian movie gets released,
she can sign off on those two projects
and then the Shortened Levy one perhaps
and then move on on a minor high note type of thing.
Do you think that she was talking like maybe possible discussions,
you know, behind closed doors were starting to happen

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where maybe she was thinking about venturing off
and then it kind of got leaked out?
Definitely. Definitely.
I think that there has to be a plan.
She's like 72 now or 71.
Like she's not spring chicken.
So I think she wants to, you know, finish up her career
on something different
and she's not going to hold on to Lucasfilm forever
because that will, I think creatively for her,

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like surely that's something that she doesn't want to just,
she's been doing it for almost 13 years now.
So I assume she wants to move on.
It's a great point because when George passed things on,
he was 69.
So like, you know, if that puts it into perspective,
she's older than George was when he left Lucasfilm.
So I mean, yeah, I think there is naturally this course
of, you know, passing the torch, right?

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And sometimes that takes a while.
Sometimes it takes a process to find that person
and integrate them into the company.
That could take a whole year.
So, you know, if it's done right.
So yeah, I think they probably have had those conversations,
you know, as the years have gone by
and who knows who's listening
and who's overhearing or who's standing outside a door

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or a window in an office building.
Because, you know, there's big names and big wigs in there,
you know what I mean?
Like I'd be wanting to peep in on that conversation too.
So yeah, I mean, yeah, things get out.
Things get out.
Sometimes I think, right, with vital information like this,
like this is huge, right?
Like I think this was leaked out on purpose.
Yeah, yeah, maybe.
To get a reaction, to see who the people are.

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Right, yeah, maybe.
I mean, I would love to be privy to strategy plans like that.
Like it's fascinating how big corporations like that
might, you know, to your point,
I saw an article about the most recent Avengers Doomsday
or Avengers Secret Wars leaks with some concept art,

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crystal clear images, you know, posted online.
And it's like, okay, like people have been speculating,
like is this like kind of official?
Like has it semi-secretly officially been leaked
to determine whether or not people are stoked about this?
Because, you know, especially in a time
in which people have been really burned out with Marvel stuff,
like, you know, what's the reception with these things?

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And that's been another form of marketing as well.
Like just get more interest in the movie.
Like I feel like these studios know how much influence
like online fandoms and talks have.
And to get people excited for a movie
and to get trailer numbers bumped up,
like surely this is a method just to even test things
and then also get more people interested.
Right.
Well, there's that old saying,

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that bad publicity is good publicity.
Like it's just publicity is publicity, no matter what,
whether it's bad or good.
It's like on a YouTube video,
like thumbs up or thumbs down,
it doesn't matter to the algorithm.
Like it's showing inactive, you know, people are interested.
Yeah. And, you know,
when I think about the Marvel end of things,
Marvel is a much bigger company than Luke's Film,
I believe, in scale of doing the amount of films

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that they have done over the years,
the amount of comic books that they produce
on an annual basis.
Like there's two or three different levels to that company
with like different forms of entertainment.
And, you know, Kevin Feige is just one of those
head honchos of Marvel Studios.
And I feel like he gets significantly less flack
when a bad Marvel movie comes out

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compared to Kathleen Kennedy,
who suffers the wrath of people,
you know, when something bad comes out
or something people don't like.
And it's like, man, like...
The only difference is,
is that like Kevin Feige is working off like a universe
that he and obviously Jon Favreau started
from the beginning on the screen
and then taken it through.
Whereas like Kathleen Kennedy inherited a set of movies

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and IP after that.
But yeah, there's definitely an element of it.
Yeah.
No, I got to disagree with that.
There's a huge difference.
Since Kathleen Kennedy's taken over Luke's Film,
she's had about 50-50 hits and misses.
Whereas Kevin Feige had like the first 90% were hits.
Yeah, I guess.
But Kevin Feige is not...

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He's had more time in that world, right?
Like Kathleen Kennedy has only been with Luke's Film
for X amount of time.
And out of what she has produced, it's been 50-50.
But if you count all the things that Kevin's been involved with
even back to his days on X-Men,
you know, there has been a lot of Marvel movies
and a lot of shows that have not gone well.

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It's just my thing is just like,
I feel like it doesn't really come back at him negatively in the press.
Whereas like Kathleen Kennedy is always like first in line
to get that fire, right?
And the real Marvel stinkers were under Victoria Alonso, right?
Well, that's just it, right?
Like I feel like it's a bigger company in a way
that there's more people to blame for bad Marvel movies.

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Whereas like Luke's Film is such a small company
that there really is only like a handful of people
that could be pointed at for like why this movie was not good
or why that show didn't do well or whatever.
Now also when Kathleen Kennedy that was teamed up
with like Steven Spielberg and George Lucas,
like now that was different, you know?
Yeah.
Now I don't know if she's just kind of like,

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does she have other people around her?
Does she become the lone gunman?
See, that's just it.
I think there's a lot of questions surrounding how that works
because she's a very successful producer, right?
Like she's successfully produced a lot of great things in her day.
And, you know, some being she was involved with,
like you said, Matt, like Jurassic Park, Jurassic Park 2,

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War Horse, Jurassic Park 3.
She's been on Lincoln, The Goonies, Tintin, Hook, E.T.,
Indiana Jones, like all of them.
But, yeah, then you have other things like Acolyte
and Episode 9 and Episode 8.

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And, you know, there's a handful in there that aren't great.
But, I mean, I think most people agree that Rogue One,
she's, you know, that's hers too.
And that's one of the best Star Wars movies out there.
And, you know, there's definitely been some successes.
I love the fact that I Google her name is South Park.
It's the first thing that comes up.
But, you know, I wouldn't put it past Kevin Feige

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retiring from Marvel in the next three, four years
and taking over Lucasfilm.
Yeah, well, see, that would be really interesting
because especially if you want...
He's a big Star Wars fan.
He is.
And there was kind of like the Simon Kinberg news
or the Sean Levy news,
which was sort of slipped out officially in the news.
He was supposed to produce a Star Wars movie at some point as well.

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Right, right. Yeah, he was.
Yeah, and that's fairly recent news.
Yeah, so lots of stuff in the works.
Yeah.
Actually, they did ask her about that in the article
and they say,
I broke a piece last fall about Simon Kinberg
making a deal to write and produce a Star Wars trilogy.
How's that going?

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Kathleen Kennedy says,
we're absolutely rolling fast and furiously.
That has gone exceptionally well.
And he's literally going to script as we speak.
We'll see something probably around June.
Simon, if you remember,
he did some work with us years ago with the animated show.
It's not quoted here,
but she's referring to Star Wars Rebels,
which was a really wonderful collaborative experience.

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And he got very, very busy with X-Men
and then recently became available again.
And he swayed his space beautifully.
We're really excited about where that's headed.
Yeah, there's lots to look forward to with Simon Kinberg.
He did Star Wars Rebels.
That was good.
X-Men.
I would not have been picking Sean Levy to do a Star Wars film.

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Yeah, Sean Levy.
I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Sean Levy's a bit more of that.
Yeah.
Oh, hey, they asked her about that too.
So, oh, so yeah.
So there are spinoffs
and then there was the core Star Wars story broken in trilogies.
Is this a continuation of that?
Kennedy replies about the Simon Kinberg thing
that this is the next iteration,
a new saga that moves us into the future.

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So Simon Kinberg's trilogy is supposed to set up
a whole new saga going into the future.
Probably with that will be the passing of the torch
to the next Lucasfilm CEO.
And then they also talked about
the Deadpool and Wolverine director, Sean Levy.
And she says that's also in the future.
It's all post episode nine.
And Sean's the standalone Star Wars story

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that'll take place post episode nine,
maybe five or six years out.
The Mandalorian really stands on its own
because there we're dealing with a whole other era
in the New Republic.
We have other developments going on in that space as well.
So that's the space that we're pretty much focused on
right at the moment
because obviously the Mandalorian,
we have a pretty good sense of where that's going.

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And with this, it's all pretty much new characters.
We may bring some of the characters back
from the sequel saga, but pretty much new characters.
So yeah, it looks like they're moving on.
It's like the...
I feel like as time goes by,
fans will start referring to this whole Disney era
less as the Disney era

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and more of like the Kathleen Kennedy era.
And then as we go forward,
maybe somebody else, whoever else is in charge,
maybe it'll be that era.
And then there's obviously the George Lucas era.
But it seems like maybe she's kind of
lining up these future films
with the passing of the torch to somebody else.
Which would make sense
because that's what George did with the sequel movies
and Kathleen Kennedy.

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What do you think, what's missing then
compared to the George Lucas era?
What's missing then?
Why are we so passionate about this?
Why are we so worried about it?
What's so good?
You know what I mean?
Can you put your finger on
what is that magical thing that the George Lucas era has?
I think people, it's just the general dissatisfaction
with if you take all the average viewer sentiment

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for the shows and the movies over the last 10 or so years,
I think people are just excited for some change
just given what the sentiment has been.
Dealings of iconic characters,
legacy characters, sorry.
Stories, choices,
and how the overall strategy has been.
I think people are just keen for something new.

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Yeah, I think so.
Someone different.
Yeah.
But then again, to be fair,
we haven't had complete,
not every single Thelonious Favreau project
has been a knock out of the park hit as well.
Right.
Sure, sure.
But I would say that they generally understand
the magic of what makes Star Wars work.

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I think if they had complete creative control,
for example,
and there were no pen pushes behind them,
or money pushes, pen pushes?
What do you call it?
Whatever you want to call it.
I reckon, yeah,
they'd be producing very different stuff
even to what we've seen so far.
I think Mandalorian season one

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was pretty representative of that.
Even two, perhaps.
Yeah, I love season one.
Yeah, and I think that's more of what fans are looking for
is that classic magic and mystery satiated.
Even design, because if you think about it,
the Razor Crest is a great ship.
It's such a well designed ship.
Production design.
I know that they pushed pretty hard

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for having the models,
having real practical models.
Even though, yes, it's Compton
and there's CG added into it,
but still though,
just having that practical big giant model,
it's pretty awesome.
You know what I think that is in part
is bringing back Doug Chang.
Because Doug Chang is the guy who really was...
Was he gone?
Did he leave?
He was gone, yeah.
He was gone for quite some time

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and then eventually they brought him back.
But he was the guy that worked with George
on the prequels with episode one and two.
And I...
He designed...
Oh, yeah.
Go ahead.
Oh, he designed the Naboo Fighter.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
He designed Naboo Fighter.
I think he was one of the heads of design
in the department back in the day.

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And then he left.
He wasn't around for episode three,
believe it or not.
But he has been a production designer
ever since...
Well, he was on Rogue One
and The Mandalorian, Ahsoka,
Skeleton Crew and Obi-Wan Kenobi
and The Book of Boba Fett.
So those are his...
Those are his big ones.
And then he was in the art department

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as a design supervisor
on looks like episode seven.
He was a concept artist.
In episode eight, he was a design supervisor.
Solo, he was head of design.
And episode nine, he was vice president
head of design at Lucasfilm.
So that's kind of his graduation
through, I guess, the Disney umbrella.

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But yeah, he was absent for quite some time
from the company.
Because I remember getting an episode one
art book when I was so excited
for episode one to come out at the time.
And his name was all over the place.
I was like, who is this guy?
He's awesome.
And he's like an art center dude
who's into car manufacturing and car design
and then just started getting into spaceships
and he's amazing.
Yeah, he's awesome.
I always love listening to him talk.

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He's a good presenter.
He's got such a soothing voice.
The Razor Crest is so sick.
I miss the Razor Crest.
I hope they bring it back.
I miss the Razor Crest too.
What I love about Doug Chang's work
so much in those movies
is you actually get to see the progression
from the Naboo Starfighter
being this thing of decadence
and sleek design where every curve

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morphs into the next curve
to the brutalist industrial design
of the original trilogy.
You actually get to see that
in different increments as the movies go on.
In Attack of Clones
you get the laddie, which is the gunship
where it's still round and smooth
but you're starting to get those industrial angles.

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And then in Revenge of the Sith
you get the V-Wing
where it's still a pointy dart ship
like the style of the old Republic and whatnot
but now you've got industrial angles
on everything overbearing those design features.
Yeah, with TIE Fighters being hexagons.
That reminded me of how much I loved

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that episode of the Mandalorian.
I'm sorry, the Book of Boba Fett
when he built that modded Starfighter.
Ah, so good.
That was so awesome.
That was the first thing I did
when I bought the LEGO set
as soon as it was released.
Look at how he modded out
that Naboo Starfighter and Book of Boba Fett.

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Nothing's clean and organized
even though the ship itself
is supposed to be this sleek, clean thing.
And it's ridiculously overpowered
for what it is.
To begin with, he stoops it up.
He makes it more muscle, more grit
more crunch to the design.
I love that.
Awesome.
And as a callback to the hot rod culture

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to the George Lucas era.
Yeah, there's nothing like those classic rat rods.
So cool.
Very true.
But even the Razor Crest
is a good melding of those two designs.
You've got the practicality of the Mandalorian
the rigid lines
but everything's smoothed over
so you get this nice balance
of elegance and brutalist.

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Alright, well I'm just going to wrap things up real quick.
Anyway, Kathleen Kennedy.
Bring things back to Kathleen Kennedy.
We'll wrap things up though
and then we'll move on to Andor Season 2 here.
First thing is
Deadline asks Kathleen Kennedy
about Tony Gilroy very briefly.
They said,
will you arm twist Tony
into doing one of these Star Wars movies

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after he was uncredited backstop on Rogue One?
Kathleen Kennedy says,
I don't know if I can.
I don't think he ever believed
he'd be a decade inside Star Wars.
He's writing things on his own
and I think he'd like to get back
to the director's chair.
So we'll see what he does.
But he's such a talent.
He's fantastic.
And they also asked
he also provided the creative spine

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for the Bourne identity
and Kennedy said,
that's how we all met.
Deadline says,
two final questions.
Will you step out
as Lucasfilm boss this year?
And she says,
we really don't know at this stage.
There's so much going on.
Mike, I don't know.
And then Mike replies,
when it happens,
who will make the decision?
And Kathy says,
me.
It's my decision.
It's 100% my decision.

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So there you have it.
That's the article in a nutshell.
There is like bits and pieces
that we,
questions that were asked
that we didn't cover.
But I will leave a link
to this article
in the description
of this episode.
And, you know,
recommend people
just check it out.
And, you know,
it's a good read.
It was a good interview.
Good.
Good segue.

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Yeah.
All right.
With that,
we will go pick up
Blake at the Cantina
and dive into Andorra season two.
All right.
Welcome back, Blake.
Boy.
Sorry, I'm late.

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No worries.
We're in a war.
You want to fight
or you want to win?

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I had a dream
that the world would turn around.
All our hopes had come to be
the revolution starts
now.
What a swell party this is.

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Yeah.
The revolution starts now.
Yeah.
The revolution starts now.

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Remember this moment.
Yeah.
You're here.
You're right here
and you're ready to fight.
All right.
Well, there you go.
Pretty cool.
Yeah.

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April 22nd.
So let's start moving through this.
So many familiar faces
from Rogue One.
I think
the thing that sticks out
to most people
is the music.
So it's not
Star Wars at all.
No, it's called
The Revolution Starts Now.
It's from the 2004 album
of the same name
by working class hero
Steve Earle.

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So, yeah, there you go.
Not John Williams at all.
And some people
like it.
Some people hate it.
I'm curious.
What do you guys think?
The music?
Yeah, the music
or the trailer in total?
Just like the music.
Yeah, the music
and the trailer.
I don't mind
the music.
It's just a trailer.
It's not like they're going to
play this in the show.
What if they do, Derek?
What if they don't?

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You know what?
Even if they do,
I think I still will like it.
But
assuming
that this is just
a marketing thing,
I reckon
these guys are really
trying to like
sorry, not these guys.
Marketing, Lucasfilm,
Star Wars people
are trying to
like push this to be
like a
like a
show that is
for like
the

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adult part of
the
Disney Plus crowd
that want to watch
like a
corporate conspiracy
kind of show
and not just
associate it with
Star Wars,
which has a lot of
a lot of
conceptions
with people.
Like if people
think it's a Star Wars show
like, you know,
like the casual
more casual side
of the audience
might think it's

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another Star Wars show.
It's like another
kid's show.
But I feel like
they're trying to position
this as such
much more of like
an adult kind of
watching thing
and maybe this music
has something to do with it
along with all
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Walking down another hallway, and who is this I sure like they're walking down hallways. Yeah, they do
For that's definitely casting so yeah
Seconds four seconds that's Cassian. Yeah, can't confirm. Yeah

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Okay, no good. No guess no guesses as to where that is, but the follow-up shot looks like it's him with the hood up
That's definitely the same jacket
And it looks like they're shooting an imperial officer in a big room filled with some lights on the ceiling
It looks like it could be an imperial base or laboratory or something like that definitely the same sequence of events here

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No, that's not Cassian. No, that's not Cassian. There's there's a hair
There's like a long blonde hair that's sticking out of the person
That's the same person as the previous shot though, that's that's that's not it's got definitely not
It's the big cave from the Christopher Nolan movies

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Zoom in on the hair strand
Because the the jacket that he's wearing in the first previous shot
It's got these white stripes on the back and then the jacket where she's shooting the imperial officer
It doesn't have those stripes. Are they wearing the same boots and all the shots? Oh, that's true. They does have the same
Well, I don't know. Is it though? It looks like the same seam work to it

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No, but it's it's Cassian in the first one in that confined hallway
And then it's someone with blonde hair, which I think is Val
You're right, there's like a flicker of blonde like long hair coming out of it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay somebody else then

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Very tricksy with the editing here. Are we we got we got and or walking through a bunch of pilots bunch of
Before yeah
What are you sure that's and all that may not be here we're seeing from the front now that's got to be
Unless it's a twin brother
Check his hair. Yeah

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And or asian. Yeah
Shot of him and some what's the skin next shot eight seconds in we got a red is wearing the rebel suit looks like a
Yeah, it looks like a red pilot suit or something. That's cool. So that's Cassian. The other person's in the same uniform
It looks like a dog on a shoulder

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For the ties, maybe yeah, maybe all right got is that Cassian running through a field field or is that somebody else?
That's someone else
Seems in a tie fighter Kirk knows and or his hair from behind
So do we think this is Lothal this planet, ah, it could be oh, yeah, I think so definitely could be

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Yeah, that kind of looks like Bix. Oh, what's his name? Oh, he died in the first season though. He got squashed by that crate
I know his head kind of looks like that. But I also don't think it really matters who his head looks like
It was crushed by a crate
No, no, no, no, no, no like big Bix the character Bix in the first season
Like he's that can't be him because he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's

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because
I
Know that's not sick
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's pretty cool
We got four Stormtroopers shooting at the guy that's running across the field
Nice shot kinda reminiscent of the Stormtroopers on the beach, bro. Yeah

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I just say like I don't know how they do it
But with this season to look as well as season one like they've maintained like a pretty consistent
Like color look as as what and I broke one look like unless that's just me like I feel like the troopers on
Yeah, and they shot here. Yeah. Yeah, it looks it looks just like and like rogue one

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The same lens same cameras and everything. Yeah
different
Stars is always played with color like they they tend to show you less colors on screen so that they pop more like that's
Always been the design of the original trilogy
Okay. No, that's not and or running because
follow-up shots to to this and or is in a stolen imperial fighter of some kind looks like a tie and

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Yeah
Yeah, he shoots a missile and
Yeah, and he's that he's that turbo is that turbo tank or what is that?
It's not an interceptor. The back wings are pointed like the back of the
Solar panels are pointed like a tie Avenger and it's it's fatter and longer like an Avenger interesting
Okay, because there's a shot later

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You see from the front and it looked like a tie silencer from the sequels to me
No, I doubt it's that but look reminiscent of it interesting. So maybe that's that adventure talk
I think we have the answer you had I'm skipping ahead a little bit
Yeah, then we have the answer to who you think who the the capes were at the start
All right
Later in the trailer title card title card first season of and or was hailed by critics everywhere

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Yeah, what do you think of these? Like I think it's just to try and sell this movie to it
See this show to a different audience. Yeah, I think convincing him. This show is good. It's for adults
It's trying to show a different tone. It's a it's a complete 180 from like the marketing for Acolyte or Skeleton crew
Yeah, they have similar music both non Star Wars music

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To scale skeleton crew and
Setting a new trend to seal and now we're gonna just get rock music for the rest of the Star Wars
Oh, man going to this new era of Star Wars, you know, like with Sean Levy's movie. We're gonna get like AC DC and like
Who's John Williams
Marvel gonna get right

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Star Lord
That'll be a shot that would be a Sean Levy movie for sure. Yeah
We got a they had a rock in
Soca when she's on the bike trying to run. Oh, yeah
That's true. That was that was music that was made for that show though
I think if I'm not mistaken, but but yeah, I'm just as our transition totally totally

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Yeah, that was the chance that was the transition moment and then now it's now it's just getting us ready
For the eventual AC DC just straight in the thing and or turns down to the bottom of his pilot
He's a cockpit and he puts in a cassette tape and AC DC starts playing. Oh, man. 100% Okay
We got just some badass shot of Saw Gerrera staring at the camera. So good to see him back. So good

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Yeah, so they they already have him in his full kit. So we don't get to see how he becomes cybernetic. Yeah
Oh, yeah, actually
Well, that story was actually kind of because season 2 is a big time jump and then I think in season 2
There is another time jump midway through the season. So I don't know where that shot takes place, but
Talking about Saw Gerrera through rebels. You do see his transition a little bit

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I think with the gray hair first
He's like no hair or something or and then he's got gray hair and then and then he's you know
Some cybernetics and then a whole bunch. Yeah, I think yeah, there was something like yeah
There's also a bunch of books and stuff that that take place in there
And so, you know and or and or is like one of those shows that kind of spans a lot of time
So interesting if maybe we'll get him in an older suit or something as well

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Okay title card emotional thrilling and exciting by the rap. Come on Mothma looking great. He's a Roman party
Yeah, people dancing all over the place
Confident and sophisticated by the Atlantic. All right
Yeah, nice good pick yeah good call Luthor rail looking depressed

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That's one of those deep storylines that you would absolutely have never have expected to come out of the Mon Mothma character
I think with
Tony Gilroy and his team like really shined. Yeah with the last show true. Just like yeah
Who would have thought who would have thought of that?
Yeah, that's great. Okay, truly phenomenal storytelling the verge. Okay, who is this somebody in a hood? Is that it's not blonde

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That's Bix. That's is that Bix? That's is it Bix?
Yeah, maybe it's not her but I think that's like that would mean Cassian walking through the hallway in that enclosed shot that you
Saw and I think this is the other girl. That was that shot. Oh, you're ill. Oh, yeah
Yeah, good call and then they set up a bomb. It's her hair long enough for that though. It looks like it

(41:53):
Yeah, yeah, just yeah obscured by the hood. Yeah, this is a pretty cool shot though the explosion in the back
It is and he sets it off like how I locked my car right cool guys don't look
cool guys
You know what? It's like one of those like major cliche shots where like you have the explosion in the background
But this is like stunt tastefully we can just see it poking out in the corner up there, right? Yeah

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Yeah, we didn't like the Dark Knight. It's not like the Dark Knight. I'll take that back
Greatest of all time. All right, great to see what's his name? Oh, dude. I'm so excited
Director Krennic. Yeah, director Krennic
Production manager I aspire to be
Exactly. All right, so he's looking out the window and then we see him again

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That's again looking at the window the Death Star all coming together. It's funny how we see it
Yeah, it's the most important piece
Takes time big open
Took 19 years, dude
Actually, I feel like the very last scene in season one like you did see the dish like but just not assembled
It was like floating in midair or something. Yeah, that was awesome

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Yeah, and now it's gone. So what maybe it was big. It was too small didn't fit. Yeah, it was too small
It was too big. It was too small. Yeah, it was too big. It was too small
It was too small didn't fit it wasn't working and that's those storylining catalyst
Yeah, it was from Ikea and the measurements were off

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Came with some of the wrong parts
They just ended up for powder coating
Yeah
Either that or Krennic found that he had too many screws left over which is like really annoying because you feel like you've just
Assembled it incorrectly
Yeah, they realized they needed a thermal exhaust port so that

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Just two meters wide
Follow-up shot some dude taking a nap on the ground in a rebel base
Extra I don't know who that is
But apparently his dead body gets the quote a prestige drama with the searing action and Emmy worthy performances

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This guy's Jack's look his stomach is like really flat, but he's got a massive chest. That's a huge that's Emmy worthy
He's been he's been hitting the protein back-to-milk juice, that's all the searing action searing action
That is a nice paint design, I think

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I have heard some theories about this scene
Being that it takes place on Dakar
Dakar is is it Dakar? I don't know. This reminds me of that scene from the opening of
The Last Jedi like that based down on whatever that planet was. Oh, yeah where they end at the resistance the resistance base
Yeah, that's filmed in the UK. Yeah Dakar. Yeah Dakar. That is it. That's the name of the planet. Yeah resistance base

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Yeah, it's it's the letters D Q AR. Oh, right. Yeah, and that's the one from from episode 7
So yeah, there was an old or it's that planet where I'm aware. What's this? What's the characters name?
He went to go
Visit Saw Gerrera and they had that brief Luthor went to visit Saw Gerrera on that planet. That's what I was thinking, too

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Yeah, yeah
A little bit more rocky and barren you didn't get to see green fields on it, but wasn't Saul's fighters like black and gray
Yeah, yeah, I like their paint job. Yeah off in the distance, too
We do see some like what looks like bunkers. So it definitely I feel like this could be Qatar for sure
All right, we got indoor and or with the blaster. He's looks like he's back at the university place in the action

(45:57):
It's weird to see a scoped blaster with no stock. Yeah, it is. Okay, who's this again? Okay, we got
That girl that helped blow up the L4 doesn't count. That was that's exactly what I was about to point out. That's a pistol
It still has a scope on it doesn't count
Looks like a nerf gun that he's using. All right, we got we got that that chick is back

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She's grabbing it by the car
This is the same girl that's looks like a different person
Yeah, as the girl that he helped blow up the building with it looks like she's got blonde hair. No, that's not the same
That's that's definitely not. Are you sure it's not the same person with the hair
It's not the same as the one in the hood. Not the one maybe maybe the one on the hood

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But not not not not velvet. They used to blow up the dam like that. No, no, not not not from season one
No, I mean in the trailer earlier. We saw them blow up that building. He does that like I
Think that's her that shoots that guy. You don't think that's her cuz this girl's blonde. The other girl was brunette
Well, it was dark. It was dark. She's just kind of like doing a different person looking at the nose the nose different different nose

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I don't know why I'm analyzing some person
Womanizer then he's got all these lady friends
I mean, have you seen him in that thumbnail?
Like he's got that on his star was like, you know dating profile thing
Like he'd be getting all the clicks
He's 80s mullet my goodness

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Equivalent of tinder and he's just recruiting for rebels the whole time
Swiping right on those rebels. That's right right on rebel right on rebel left on Empire left on losers
All right, we got a shot 50 seconds in we got the guy farmer
It looks like that same planet that we saw and or blow up that turbo tank. He's being arrested by some stormtroopers

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I love these grain bins. It's super cool. We have not really seen a proper farming planet
We've seen just grasslands with little fall and then in the EU we had dantooine
We haven't seen anything like proper like this. You're hoping this could be little think it could be I think it's very X
I have feel like it's very specific like the opening planet because they the guy that was

(48:11):
Part of the mining guild that was and or his friend like he I think that's him in the initial
Brass oh, yeah brass. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, cuz like when you have those shots
We're like and or is escaping with Luthor and they go over those like those
beige
Fields. Yeah

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Yeah, that's gotta be yeah, that's totally yeah, okay
All right, so maybe it is Ferricks or he moved planets because you know, he's a miner
So maybe who says he can't be a farmer. So maybe he moved planets in it. Maybe it's little fault
You know, what's the planet from the Soca novel because she was in a farming planet as well

(48:52):
Yeah, that was Radha. Okay, that could be right as well. But you know like Ferricks, you know, like hit the fan so
You know, it could be
Could be that he moved right true. And is there in the final season of rebels?
Isn't there also a farming planet and then we'll fight on that big harvesting machine. Yep

(49:14):
Talking about the finale or it was in the last season. Oh the final season
Yeah, they go through the planet through that portal thing that the wolves show them yeah, oh right
Alright this spring. I've got a follow-up shot of some unhelmeted
Unbucketed storm troopers. This is kind of storm troopers are different. Yeah. Yeah, kind of cool

(49:37):
What do you guys think about these guys? Who are they? I wish one time central forces. There's a 50 to 52 seconds
Oh, yeah, those are sand trooper torsos, right? I chest pieces just mud troopers mud troopers
I
Can tell Josh likes these and they're not CGI
Although that no, he doesn't like them because they're not CGI. That's right

(50:00):
I think stormtroopers get away with it because they're supposed to be kind of crappy, you know, like
Notice their arms. Yeah, it's different like they're big big forearm plates. Yeah, I wonder if that's like a massive
I wonder if that's like a shield or something like a like a you know, oh, yeah
Armor buttons on it. Yeah, there's a production coordinator behind them following them. Yeah

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Isn't that?
What's-her-name's right-hand man from the first season the guy that's like, yeah, we'll stay late. I'll take half you take half
I think so. He has a black hat. I mean he has like one that I don't know
Sorry, which guy you're from one of these two in the back son or left? Yeah, I can't see his face clearly enough
Yeah, that's true. Yeah could be though. Isn't that blonde girl? Like I think he's associated with her

(50:47):
Okay. Yeah, so we got a shot of what's-her-name again? Do we all forget her name?
Whose name
The one that cereal cereal the cereal eater, yeah obsessed with yeah

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Okay, so she's standing in a hallway
It looks like one of those armored stormtrooper guys is coming around the corner like towards the end of that shot
So maybe maybe it could be the same place. She's not looking too happy. That's why I thought they were ISP
Mmm, yeah, maybe maybe they're conducting an internal investigation, which is kind of what they do
It would make sense that they have their own police force right special forces to deal with the elite stormtroopers and whatnot for sure

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Yeah, okay. That looks like a shot of director Krennic. Is that him talking to Mon Mothma?
It almost looks like it could be
And that is that her husband is that her husband back there with the forget what he looks like with the rose
He's got I thought he had longer hair and a beard, but maybe not. Oh, yeah, you're right
He has chin-length hair that slicked back and the goatee

(51:59):
What's up with that guy with a beauty and the Beast jacket like he looks like he's reading
Yeah, boom gold the critically acclaimed series
All right, we got a oh it is what is that that's the TIE fighter right that's the time
We're talking about earlier. Yeah, we're talking about earlier the and or steel
As this is my favorite part of the trailer. Like I just loved how they did for them. He's guns them down

(52:23):
She's ripping. No. No. Yeah. Well, not that specifically
It's green lasers and then it turns red. Yeah, I think that's the alarm system alarms. Yeah, that's pretty sick
Hey Josh, what's the name of that alarm system the Imperial?

(52:49):
I actually don't know if has a name. I just thought you may know like I heard like it's
It's called the klaxon klaxon alarm system like klaxon klaxon. I think there's an a license. He's laxon
Klaxon is an actual company. Oh
Okay. Well, I've always heard it
Thinking somewhere in one of the commentaries they even refer to it as a klaxon alarm

(53:10):
I've heard that term before I have that sounds it sounds Tom was he yeah
So I am just looking up the comparison
That we mentioned here earlier between the TIE Interceptor and the Avenger and it definitely you're definitely right the Darien
So what is it? There are differences between them?
Like the Avenger is looks out of the in-between with the TIE Advanced and the TIE Interceptor

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Okay, the back instead of the flat back like the Interceptor, what is the TIE Avenger originally from?
I don't think it's ever actually been on film before it's in a bunch of books and
I know of it because of the Star Wars CCG from the 90s
But it's I think it was in TIE Fighter vs. X-Wing as well. Okay interesting
Basically, it's like the second best version of the TIE ever made TIE Advanced is the best. I assume TIE Interceptor or

(53:59):
The one that they had in Rebels with the the three sets of
Defender I find it strange that Darth Vader's isn't the best one. It's not even like on the good side
What the heck call it and again calms calls himself a mechanic
All right next shot we got the dance again

(54:22):
So it is in the X-Wing games the TIE Fighter X-Wing games, yeah
Is it anything else she's really rocking out here
like imagine if you
Showed a photo of that close-up of Mon Mothma to someone like 20 years ago being like, hey, this is Mon Mothma
You'd be a big concern for the fate of Star Wars without any context

(54:44):
I got I got a frozen I got a frozen on the final frame where her like dresses looks like wings and she's like
Screaming to the yeah, it's just like and then picture the words
Many Bothans died. Yeah to bring us this information
That's what we call good writing. I love that you said that in the Darth Maul voice

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Many Bothans died to bring us this information
All the all the rebels together in the briefing room right after Mon Mothma does this speech
Before they do a Death Star 2 one of them like elbows a guy next to me like chose like a video for like dancing here
All

(55:25):
Right another shot of the big party
Returns. All right, and then got some hyperspace action some got an X-Wing in space following a
Transport of some kind is that a transport from Clone Wars with the weird cockpit?
Hmm, I don't know you would know Josh here the Clone Wars
I haven't the thrusters don't look similar at all to me

(55:46):
But I think it it looks like the same ship that we see on the theoretical Dakar an earlier shot
Yeah, that's true. That's true. Actually, this could be above to car quotations to car. Yeah
Yeah, hyperspace the planet formerly known as the car no matter what they name it now. Yeah
Reminds of that same where Luthor like chopped up the

(56:07):
The other Imperial ship and so I'm just reminiscing at how good season one was
That was a really cool ship design. All right in the ship in the first one. It was yeah, that was a sick ship
That made me so mad yeah, was that was that a dog Doug Chang thing was it was he on this on this show
I I don't know actually I

(56:28):
Didn't look
Look it up. Oh, no, I didn't see and or on his list. That's why that's why I mean like maybe I don't know
I don't think so
But was there any and or Lego? I don't think so because it was marketed to adults. Oh
Oh
Looks like there was was there one there was one set maybe yes, it was there those one

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Set it's a minifigure and that's it
It's a age 9 plus set with and or Luthor rail and Cyril all with one of those
Ferricks like drop those drop ships from the ambush ambush on ferrets. Yeah, it's called ambush on Sarah's
Seven five three three eight
And now it was that and they didn't make like that sweet ship that

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Luthor dry, it's not even it's not even a big it's not even a big sets a hundred and hundred fifty dollars or something
I'm sure it's a hundred bucks over here. Well, that's probably current price because it's no longer in production
Yeah, maybe. Yeah, probably that wouldn't be the release price probably and that's it. Yeah, that's that's the only legacy
They only made one set for skeleton crew, that's true. Yeah, they made none for acolyte. What does that tell you?

(57:38):
Yeah, I don't know. So it's like right now there
They're just continuing to re-release original trilogy stuff. Mostly a few prequel things. That's the stuff that makes money
all right, we got a shot of
got a shot of the
Star Wars droid photographer it almost looks like it looks like which is pretty cool the flashes got the lenses

(57:58):
Like an EU thing cuz like I know is especially in the the commando book series
They talk about droids that are basically just like cameras for the holo net and they do like for like news reporters and stuff
Yes. Yes, you know those um those stars or like what what do you call the prongs?
They kind of look like Iron Man's like arc reactor from like the second. Oh, yeah, I am and film. Oh

(58:21):
Oh
You know what? Okay, hold on a second
I see that guy in the purple and the Beauty and the Beast robe like what you're saying
So, so what's that dude's name from the season one that Mon Mothma has to make the deal with his name
He was a gangster. He's gonna be the his name was Davo Davo Skalden. Is that him?

(58:45):
Davos Davo Skalden that looks that totally looks like him. He's got the same hair. No, I think you're right
Cuz they have that arranged marriage kids. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, so yeah, maybe this is an extension of the marriage stuff. Maybe this is maybe this literally is a play on Beauty and the Beast

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Wasn't an obi-wan the in the live-action of Beauty and the Beast that would work. Yeah
Yeah, he was yeah, he was Lumiere
Wait, was he actually yeah, I know that yeah, he was
Yeah, you and McGregor. Did he did he voice act or was he actually like in there?
I I don't know. I don't know but he plays the voice at the very least of Lumiere

(59:34):
Yeah, I think they would have hired someone French you'd think but okay. Yeah, I
Just looked up. So the guy that plays Davo Skalden is
His name is Richard Dillian and he's only listed in the first season. He's not listening the new one
Well, you know probably yeah, he has to be has to be in the new one though
Like not everyone updates there. I could always recall that maybe they've recast at him

(59:59):
No, maybe maybe all the power got to his head in the first season
I think that has to be him though
That has to be the character because that's also Mon Mothman her husband in the foreground of this shot
Yeah, okay, we got a shot of k2s. Oh, thank goodness. I'm so glad he's in there
so annoyed
Yeah, so just

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Needed last just so you all know
we will probably most likely not get the first interaction between k2s
Oh and and or as Marvel Comics did a one-shot many years ago called Cassian and k2s
oh and that was the
Technically the in canon event of how k2s. Oh gets reprogrammed to a to a droid

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So I think say they couldn't redo it though. No, but I do think that with I so good
Yeah, they did it to a certain extent but I think I think maybe either we'll see it adapted or we will have
Him show up after the time jump because they're supposed to be a mid-season time jump at some time
He's such a good story art that like a sub arc to have him

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It probably would and then he you kind of see how yeah
I heard they were doing the they're doing like three arcs and four episode arcs and three time jumps in between the season
Yeah, and that and each each arc is being released all at once per week and it's only being released for like a four-week period
Oh, really? Yeah, that's what I heard
They're doing like a three-hour movie event per week pretty much for three for three weeks curious

(01:01:28):
Oh four weeks, sorry, and there's three three three arcs. Sorry. I'm going all over the place here. There's
for four arcs over four weeks and three
Episodes per arc and hence for time jumps is what I meant to say
Yeah, I follow-up shot this looks like the same sequence of the TIE Avenger ripping down those guys hell yeah

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Okay, and we got
Andor hugging Bix that's got to be Bix with the brunette hair and that's the TIE Avenger right there. Okay riot armor
Who's this in the armor? Can't see his face
Mud trooper armor on the left. Yep. Someone flips down their visor and is that maybe Cyril?
maybe

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All right, we got a sweet looking tank thing
I don't know what that is that man would be jealous
Is that what happened on Coruscant like that massive like where Cyril's running up?
Not the dark sayings the oh, you mean after like the detector after that thing mows the ground over
Yeah, the ISP offices. Yeah

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Or it's got like white structure with a glowing frame
Maybe that's that university place that we saw all that action happening on maybe he's there looks like some sort of scanner
He's also wearing a badge. So he could definitely be in the in that place. It's like a Fox Mulder kind of
Just thinking FBI
Yeah
It's got that Star Wars looking tie again flat square rectangle like inside his shirt

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It looks like a belt for a tie genius. It's a belt on his turtleneck
I gotta start doing that nice new fashion. I'm gonna start doing that tomorrow
All right, what's his name?
Zero zero. Yeah, zero. Yeah, he's actually eating cereal in the
Actually the only reason I remember his name

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Got some flames happening on that University campus nice. Oh, hey, okay
This dude here, this is and or his buddy from the prison who later shows up in rogue one. What's his name again?
That's the one you talked about the guy. He shoots at the start. Nope. He's
My goodness, what's his name?
It's the guy who is in the prison with him and Andy circus. Okay, and at the end at the end of the episode

(01:03:52):
he's also the dude that once they get to land they go to separate directions and
Melchior Melchior is that his name man cheese? Yeah, I
Think I thought it was Mel. Yes, Mel. She okay. Oh, is that I'm feeling that's not him
I feel like that's not him. He looks he looks

(01:04:13):
He kind of looks a bit smaller like if you look him up from from rogue one. He's got the same kind of facial hair
Yeah, she's here. He's receding hairline is similar. Yeah, I'm now judging characters for their their hair
Problems that's okay. I got a picture of him in rogue one. That's gotta be him. It looks a bit different to him
No, this is what happens. We have a receding hairline and if you film out of order if you look him up on Wookiee pedia

(01:04:38):
Rue Scott Melchior his profile picture on that page looks very close to him here
Does that mean there's hair transplants in the Star Wars galaxy?
maybe
It's are you e s c o t t and then his last name is me l s h i l she
So it looks like season one
He didn't have any facial hair and more like hair on his head and then like as he's kind of aged

(01:05:03):
He gets the buzz cut with the facial beard if that is him
What does he look like in Rogue One? He stays in Rogue One, right?
I in Rogue One he has like basically the same look except he's wearing like a helmet or a hat
So like there's there's less to see but yeah, I think that might be him. Oh, no cheating
We got a follow-up shot of someone pointing guns all over the place. What is this?
What is this

(01:05:23):
Everybody pointing guns at everybody any blaster though some terrorist attack by the rebels. Yeah
I do wonder though if we will get an arc which features just the extreme
Measures that Saw Gerrera is willing to take cool. I know they definitely they approach that
Yeah, they approach that in Star Wars rebels, too
but like I do hope that this that it you know has some time and and or season two that wouldn't that would make a

(01:05:47):
Lot of sense because you know feeding directly into Rogue One with that relationship between him and the rebels being kind of iffy
It would make sense that Tony would want to tell a story that kind of has that that I guess stamp of his you know
Eat up. Yeah, the leader even though it was in rebels, you know, I think Tony was like, you know
It'd be nice to tell a story of my own

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I'm tempted to
Yeah, I'm tempted to say that the attack on the ISP base in on Coruscant may have been
Orchestrated by Saw Gerrera and rebellion may have pictured that as being bit too far
Blowing the cover type of thing. All right, we got a shot of the the Avenger again another shot of

(01:06:29):
Cassian running jumping over a table guns a blazing
I find it really interesting that they've got spiders pictured up above the orches of all the doors there. Oh, yeah
And they're each different to what frame are you looking at with the spiders?
117 and then a few frames forward. Oh, yeah, even when it changes perspective if you look in the background

(01:06:52):
They're still I'm pretty sure those are spiders are a little blurred out. Yeah. Yeah
by the cafe the spider
Man the production design on this show is insane. No wonder it costs so much. Yeah, put so much into practical effects
That's great. Yeah, it's good stuff. All right some hallway with people blowing up. Cool. I like that. All right

(01:07:14):
Pulse blast force push. Oh, man, some unleashed some officers getting hands-on with Bix the Dwight Schrute
Dwight Schrute. Hey, he's already been in the office. Oh, he's already been in the office
Hey, he's already been in Star Wars, why not?
He was the bounty hunter that shoots at Mando in season one when he's getting to the planet with fat Cara Dune on it

(01:07:39):
Oh, dang, really? Yeah. Yeah. He's like I can bring in cold
Warmer cold and then Mando slams on his brakes goes behind him shoots him. He's like, that's my line. Oh, yeah
Oh, I gotta rewatch that. I didn't realize that was him
Yeah, me too, so you trust I mean what can you can you very well see that it's him or is does he have like

(01:08:00):
makeup on or
You can pretty like now that you know, it's him when you go and watch you're like, oh, it's clearly him
I'm not finding any we got we got somebody screaming. He's turning into a werewolf. It's like something from willow
I don't know why yeah
Yeah, okay. We got
Cyril's mom making more cereal for him. Yeah, and

(01:08:24):
Anybody else chill seeing her just so like giddy and like, you know, something evil is gonna happen if that woman is that happy?
Yeah
All right. We got someone screaming. Who's again? Who's different screamer?
Where is this? Who is the mask? I guess the same thing at that University look in place the explosion. Yeah

(01:08:45):
Baseball the color of the concrete and everything. Oh, yeah the way this is shot
I hope this guy gets shot immediately after the speech because it seems like such a comedic setup of like go
You're the future. You're our hope takes you step shot falls down, but he's just like who's next. Yeah
All right, Saw Gerrera gets his moment. He's shaking someone down. What's he saying again?

(01:09:09):
You're here. Oh, yeah, you're right here
And then we get the money shot
Yeah, the money shot and or the title card a Star Wars story and then we got and or all combed ready for a
party or a TV show to a prequel to a Star Wars story season 2

(01:09:31):
22nd only on Disney Plus. Oh, wow. We're in the six weeks away. Oh
Nice. All right, that's crazy
Amazing awesome
Rewatch soon. That's right. Yeah got a got a pop in those blu-rays and
So if they're being released with multiple episodes at a time
Are we gonna review all three at a time or four time or whatever it is? I think we'll have to do

(01:09:54):
Yeah, I think we'll do do some marks kind of like rebels I guess on a per week basis if that is that is the case
so
lots
Lost to chat about if we end up going long though
Maybe we can split them up and to have some release each half the same week or something like that
I don't know what to figure something out. Is there not more trailer? No, that's it. That's the whole trailer

(01:10:15):
Another trailer
Where there's a Vader's walks up to a tube and kneels down to it
May have been a fake trailer. It's probably a fake trailer. Yeah, there's lots of stupid fan fake trailers out there
I hate them all crazy
I just hate any time any time on my Google trailers

(01:10:39):
yeah, anytime on my Google News feed if I ever have any channel pop up with like a
Like a trailer for something and it's fake
I remove it from like a block it completely from ever showing again on my YouTube feed and my Google News feed
I just completely like I don't want to see that, you know, it's like epidemic
It's like it like if I wanted to watch fan fiction stuff, you know, like I don't want to watch a trailer for like

(01:11:04):
You know movie that doesn't exist. I want to look at least if I want to watch a fan film
I'll watch a proper fan film, you know
I love like cut it in between like AI and really like weird like Google image like still stuff and they use like
dialogue from previous movies and other and I even put shots in from like I think I saw one of doing the other day like
Someone put a trailer for doing part three and then like they just use like these lines

(01:11:27):
It's in day I said from like the spider-man movies and euphoria
People click them people click it. Yeah
Like one of one of my friends the other day be like, oh have you checked out this new trailer?
I what I cover what movie it was and then like this is like this is not right

(01:11:48):
I have this exact conversation with my wife
And that's gonna get worse because the fan films are getting so damn good. I've seen bucket heads and
Return to end or stuff spliced into other people's like music videos and stuff where they're like, hey
What's this from in the comments? Cuz nobody knows it's from Buckethead. So like

(01:12:09):
That's awful, yeah
Instagram has it worse like they just people just make so much money off like
Repurposing other people's content without any credit and then like pass it off as their own as well
That's a whole other thing. Isn't that a thing like this isn't that part of Instagram though?
You can like remix something
yeah, but like people just post stuff and then like they they just pretend like they've made it like they don't credit the original artist or

(01:12:32):
Particularly with these fan films and people just expect it's coming from like the main line of Star Wars stuff
Like I think it may wasn't Buckethead's but it was something else
And all the comments was like, oh, where was this? I missed this rebels episode or something. It's like it's not it's not rebels
Oh, that's right. It was that person that recreated the revenge of the Sith
fight between Anakin and

(01:12:54):
the Clone Wars
recreation
People in the comments like I didn't say this Clone Wars flashback
Which episode was it and then yeah, the person didn't credit the artist at all. It's just it's pretty annoying
That's so stupid man
like I've had I've had texts from my mom like with like
Trailers for moves that don't exist and I'm like mom look at the YouTube channel before you watch a video

(01:13:19):
He's in the next Star Wars movie, yeah, no, no the Capra is playing Luke Skywalker. No way
It's always the case
Something absurd
All right
Cool. Well, let's let's wrap things up for the night
Big thank you to Kirk Darian Matt. Thank you so much the three of you for coming back on as always and you know

(01:13:42):
Before we wrap things up. What's that? What's the number one thing?
You're hoping to come out of and or season two. I'll start with you Kirk
I'm hoping I
Actually have no idea I'm just looking forward to the whole show to be honest
I'm I'm keen to see I think in Krennic. I think I want to say some really interesting plays from Krennic

(01:14:04):
I think he's one of my favorite Star Wars
Imperial officers second to
Peter Cushing's
Performances. So yeah, I'm pretty keen to see him. No. Yeah, are you daring?
Brasso going beast mode with a heavy repeater
Oh, yeah

(01:14:26):
Yeah, I'm the same I'm totally open just want to see a good story and I'm stoked to see Krennic back in action
all right, sweet and
Blake
Well pretty excited to see k2so again. He's always been a favorite of mine
But I just thinking kind of like as we're going over talking about and or season one

(01:14:46):
I need to do a rewatch so we can have all the details fresh
But I want I'm looking forward to getting more information on the backstory of
Luther Oh
Luther Luther. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, cuz there's so much speculation season one and we never we never got to figure that that's a good point
That's a good point. I'm right for it to that too. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm generally excited. Yeah, it's gonna be good

(01:15:10):
It's gonna be good and big. Thank you to to Blake
Better late than never. Thanks for having me on man
All right, awesome, thanks so much as always and we will catch you in the next one sounds good
See you out there. Keep flying

(01:15:30):
All right a big thank you to our audience for tuning in and
We have a number of things
Coming up in the put down the pipe as the weeks go on
One of them being a episode about the Star Wars banking system and financial stuff
how fun is that as well as a as an episode about the dawn of the Jedi and

(01:15:56):
That's all gonna be pushed a week ahead because because of this episode which we fast-tracked to get the conversation out
Regarding and or season 2 and so on so looking forward to all that stuff coming up
We'll see you in the next one. May the force be with you
I

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