HR 1 - Defensive Cannonball, Money Makers

Tom and Chris talk about the Steelers defense, Tom goes on an unhinged Mason Rudolph rant and we hand out Money Makers

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yesterday afternoon at Akrosher Stadium. The Steelers defense wanted everybody
to stop what they were doing and pay attention because
they had an urgent announcement to make, and that announcement
was cannon buy.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
You want to talk about splash.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
The entire pool is empty now because of what the
Steelers defense did to the Cincinnati Bengals. Not one defensive score, Chris,
but two of them, a pick six and a scoop
and score. In this game, your defense scores your fourteen
points on their own back. They outscored the damn Bengals
by themselves. You didn't even have to put your offense

(00:45):
out there in this game, and you would have won
that football game against Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Hats off to them.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
We've spent all year basically talking about how when the
splash is there, the Steelers team can beat anybody, and
can beat anybody badly. When the splash drives up, it
can look ugly for the Steelers defense. Well, that was
taking the Bengals out to the old woodshed and knocking
them around a bit yesterday. Great a plus effort by
that Steelers defense. It's Tom Opferman, It's Krisadamski on the

(01:15):
Steelers Blitz on Steelers Nation Radio recapping the thirty four
to twelve win six and four record, and Christy gave
the Bengals the kill shot. They're done now three and seven.
See you later, Sayonara, have a good offseason.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, we've said a few weeks now.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
I feel like with the Bengals, they keep losing and
losing and losing and lose, and they're there and theoretically, yes,
they could have been a game back of first place
if they had won, so they were still alive, I suppose,
But now we're done. Like, I don't think it's I
don't know if you chance getting Joe Burrow back as
fraud as he's been, Nah, forget it. I mean, well,

(01:50):
at this point it might help the Bengals have the
Ravens still at some point. Okay, well then you probably
if you're Steeer fan, you want Joe Burr to come back, right,
don't you? Or maybe this Joe, well maybe the Joe
Flacco thing is run its course now after four weeks.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Judging by this, you know who called this all early
in the week.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Who called it?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Ben Roethlisberger. Oh wow, he could know a thing or
two about football. Sometimes can't he a little bit, but
I would love to if I could. But now I
didn't see it coming to that magnitude. But on his
podcast this week, Ben Roethlisberger was like, they were going
by fifteen points, fifteen plus points, and they were like wow,
like out us by fifteen and he was like, yeah,

(02:27):
Joe Flacco, you know, this is what Joe does.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Three four games, everybody's like, wow, Joe Flacco's great.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Then he just turns back into Joe Flacco, and I
fully expect that to happens sooner or not later. You
were right, Ben, although I don't really know that it
was anything that Flacco did particularly egregiously. I mean there's
some bad throws there, don't get me wrong, But yeah,
like he kind of saw it coming, like, hey, let's
not forget who the opposing quarterback is here. This isn't
the other Joe, it's a forty year old man. And

(02:54):
then on top of that, we're facing one of the
most historically bad defenses we've ever seen in this league.
I mean, I know the Steelers were doing a lot
of historic defense talk at the beginning of the season,
but Cincinnati has been historic on the absolute wrong end.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Of the spectrum.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Matt Williamson said on our pregame show yesterday, they are
trending to be the worst defense since the nineteen sixty
six New York Giants.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Both of those game well touchdowns. Not taking anything away
from Gainwell at all. It's not my angle, but.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
You're looking at the Bengals defense.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
It was he it seemed like they like were they
trying to tackle, like like it was like he got
the ball and both of them around the corner. Is
like there's a man there that like any competent defender
unlesser's a really good athletic play.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
And again this is not me taking away from game.
We'll get the end zone.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
I just mean that it would take like a very
a distute play by the ball carrier to beat a
defender at the angles they were at. And both times
just like mah just kind of just it wasn't like
even tried to run them over or had to really
juke it. This guy like I'll just kind of nope,
not today, you're not tackling me. That that part of
got me with the Bengals. But that all being said,
it was one a seven to six game. Twenty minutes

(04:00):
into the twenty eight minutes into the game. It was
not exactly what we expected, and I guess a lot
of that now it's wild man. The NFL season is
quite a ride, and we've gone from the Steelers need
the defense to carry the team and the offenses man
to oh my god, the Steelers are an offensive team
and they could score a lot of points and their
defense needs to be carried. So now all of a sudden,

(04:22):
you feel like you look at it and there's ample
evidence and I'm not being overreactive. I feel like, all
of a sudden, the Steelers are defensive team again that
actually can you feel pretty decently going into games. They're
not going to get you know, they can keep the
score manageable, and now you hope the offense can keep up.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Maybe they always were and we were the ones that
were foolish too in a three four game kind of
rough stretch by the defense, the dry spell when it
came to the turnovers for us to panic and be.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Like, all right, it's on Rogers.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Now, the offensive scoring twenty five points per game, which
that has gone down by the way, they got a
little bit of a booie by their defense scoring some
points for them. So the team's points per game average
still stays up towards the mid twenties, but it might
even improve. But as far as an offense is concerned,
you have not been adequately putting the ball on the
end zone. The Colts game, yes you did. You were

(05:11):
able to capitalize on short fields and turnovers, but you
struggled on third down conversions. You were terrible on third
down conversions. Against the Chargers. It wasn't like the Steelers
offense came out and looked like we wanted it to look,
Especially in that first half with Rogers healthy against potentially
one of the worst defenses that you'll ever see in

(05:31):
the history of this league. I think it's fair to say, like, oh,
they left a little bit to be desired there. And
you know, when I'm looking back and using the benefit
of hindsight and now arguing against myself from a couple
of weeks ago, the offense just doesn't really have the
weaponry to really be thought of in that light, Like
you don't have enough there to give you a warrant

(05:53):
and a fire mouth and a DK and an Austin
and run and like, oh, it's coming from all different
angles for these opposing defenses can't take off that or
can't take away that player because then this player pops
up and it's just like whack them all and we
can't keep up. You don't have that kind of offense,
but you do have that kind of defense where Kyle
Duger can pop up and get you. Who's this James
Pier guy all of a sudden out of nowhere. You

(06:14):
still have to worry about the Watts in the Highsmiths
when he's healthy. Nick Herbig had a sack in this game.
You gotta worry about fifty one. Hey where at the front,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Like, So, maybe we.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Were a bit overreactionary there. In fact, I'm going to
say I was a bit overreactionary there. What we should
have been saying is if this team wants to do anything,
the defense has to get right. The defense has to
get it splash back. It shouldn't have been oh, well,
we'll pivot to an offensive team now and we'll win
every game thirty eight to thirty one. It had to
be the defense waking up, the defense finding itself again,

(06:44):
And I have to say I think it has in
recent weeks this has looked more commiserate with the defense
that you thought you were gonna get at the beginning
of the season.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
And of course he's the first two defensive touchdowns of
the season or yesterday. But as you reference the short
fields they created with the takeaways against as they weren't
actually points scored by the defense, but they certainly contributed
to you know, some of them were literally in field
goal range and they would have they pretty much did
the drive. Some of them also set up the offense
for that. And there is in terms of when we

(07:17):
were so down the defense. Again, this is a it's
not a totally different defense, of course, but you you
literally have two different names for sure, in terms of
well you have James Pierre, who's who's playing now at corner,
and you don't have Darius Slay playing at corner, and
you have James jaythen Ramsey playing at safety, and you
don't have wan Thornhill play at safety. Then smaller that

(07:40):
these probably are more marginal differences, but I mean, Malik
Harrison's playing now you'd have before. I think you have
two rookie defensive linemen that are just by just naturally
getting better the more they play. So you know, Ecchos
is playing inside we're not playing outside, so there are tangible,
actual differences. I mean, Dugger, obviously, Dougger is the most

(08:03):
obvious one. He is a literal new to the team
and everything player. I didn't mention him, but he's the
just because he seemed any sechy. Forget he's only been
here for three weeks. But it is a different defense.
It's a I mean, it's just simple. It's a different personnel.
I thought that they played their schematically. I feel like
they played a little bit more. I mean, they're definitely

(08:23):
playing more too high safety than they did before. They
had the two safeties they could trust and they liked,
and they're pretty high level safeties in this league if
you consider Jayalen Ramsey to be high level stating in
this league despite never playing safety on a full time
basis until three weeks ago. And so I do think
there was an element of keep things in front of
you just overall with this team and with this defense,

(08:47):
I mean, and particularly against the Bengals, there were there
were times in third now where I felt like they
were almost like almost something's picket fence. Look, it was
really like, I don't want to go back and watch
it more. I tried to watch it in the condensed game.
You don't see that, and you know, I'm I'm not
a big you know, all twenty two guy, like know
what I'm seeing, But I've seen on the third downs
they were putting Patrick Queen was lined up deep. It

(09:07):
was wild what they were doing. So something they obviously,
you know, emptied the chamber to stop the Bengals, and
they did a heck of a job with it, considering
Chase only Chase his production, and it was their lowest
passing game yards allowed all season. That's against the team
that was averaging three hundred and fifty passing yards a
game over the past month, including what they did to
the Steelers a month ago. So you add up, like

(09:28):
I said, it is a different defense by the personnel
and also then by extensions schematically, because you're doing different
things with Jalen Ramsey as a safety that obviously you
weren't doing with Wan Thornhill or with all due respect,
Chuck Clark or whatever their safeties.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Peppers whoever was back to it adn't given a moment.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
I gotta be honest with you, I did not see
that coming at all, what they did to Jamar Chase.
Their ability to slow down the Bengals passing game. I
did not in any sense of the imagination, in any
of my analysis heading into that game was I like.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, there's a chance that the head of the stink
that they cut.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Off of the passing game and that Jamar Chase is
the Chase that actually doesn't hurt them. You know, all
week long, I was pounding the table stop the other Chase.
I put it in like two Steelers reports that I do.
I was like, just stop the other Chase. That's all
it comes down to. If you get run on by
these guys, you're not gonna be able to win. They
are a one dimensional team on purpose. Don't let them

(10:21):
find a second dimension on accident like you did on
Thursday night in week seven. Well, fast forward to the
game and Chase Brown's running for five and a half
yards a clip.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
He's got ninety nine yards on eighteen carries.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
They can't stop Chase Brown, Chris, but it doesn't matter
because they were able to stop the other Chase, the
Offensive Player of the Year, the Triple Crown winner, the
still second leading receiver in the NFL this season. Despite
the turmoil that team has had on offense and at
the quarterback position.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I didn't see that coming at all.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
That was the biggest surprise by a long shot to
me when it comes to looking at how this game
played out, that they shut down Jamar Chase. And I'm
really interested as the week goes on and we're talking
to people, like, what were they doing there? Was it
Joey on him a lot? I think there was a
decent amount of Porter Junior. I think there was a
lot of blanket coverage. I just think back to what

(11:13):
you said with Patrick Queen kind of dropp him back
into coverage a lot more. I think schematically they had
a really good game plan against number one and it
worked beautifully. I mean three catches for thirty yards and
he had ten targets. Yeah, so like they were going
to him, you were sticky in the coverage. I said
at the beginning of the show, just now a plus

(11:34):
for the defense, but a plus plus plus plus plus
for how you handle that guy.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah, you look at some of his numbers. I mean, yeah,
I thought that no matter what Chase was going to
he did get ten targets. So it wasn't as if
they I guess or something. And so he's played seventy
two NFL games now and only he's three catches, having
three catches, only had fewer than three catches at eight

(11:59):
time so far. No, no, actually it's five times so far.
He said fewer than or three catches. And if you
count three catches, twelve catches or one of twelve games,
he's had three or fewer catches so far in his
NFL crib.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
But for none of them.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
If he's had at least ten targets in a game,
he's never had fewer than six receptions before before yesterday
against the Steelers. So a lot of that's credit to
the secondary obviously, was that saying that they for what
happened to them last game, because you would have thought
that the Bengals will get their yards, Chase will get
us catched, cause that's kind of what happened in the
first game, right, Chase didn't have these big plays. He

(12:32):
wasn't going It wasn't like he had.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
The longest catch.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
He had nineteen yards in the first game, and it's
wild that he was able to accumulate that many yards
and that many catches. So you just assume that one
way or another that they would just get him the ball.
Now the whole Chase Brown thing. If you want a nitpick,
it's like this is twice Now, what's going with that?
Especially they talk about the emphasis of the run, but hey,
for what that offense had been over the past month

(12:55):
since Flaco had been there, and from what we know
about their skill people, just the yardage they had been accumulating,
the points they've been accumulating, the passing yard or seven
yards they've been accumulating to be able to shut them
down to that degree, it's definitely it's you got to
give credit kudos to Tar Austin, Mike Tomlin, the defense

(13:15):
up and down all the way around, because yeah, we
didn't expect to see and that doesn't even it doesn't
even count of the two defensive touchdowns, right, which which
is what we knew this defense, what defense has been
and has to be, and when it's doing that both
of those things, now you're really cooking, right.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
And you talked about how this defense is different, Right,
this is a different defense than the Bengals even saw
in Week seven, just a few weeks ago. Let you
now have to face well, let's end this segment by
talking about two key difference making players who are different
faces to that defense. Now, ironically, the one guy I'm
gonna mention has actually been the longest tenured Steeler, has

(13:52):
started the most games technically as a Steeler, but not
so much in the fold of the actual defense, and
that's James Pierre, who is now for a second week
in a row, had to be tasked into that outside
corner roll in an expanded manner.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
And Chris he was very impressive.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Once again, I thought he played such a great game
up until that scoop and score that that was kind
of like the puck luck and hockey right where it's
just like you're around the net for so much that
you get the goal finally, and it's the ugly one, right, Like,
it's not the cool one time or that you had
that got robbed, or it's not the time you danced
through five defenders and then put it on net and.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Scored that got robbed too.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Now it's the greasy one where it kind of banks
off your skate and you didn't even realize it and
it goes right into the net. That's kind of what
the scoop and score was, because he was great when
he had to take on Chase, he was great whoever
he had to go in coverage with at a couple
passes defense, and he played a game that deserved to
have that kind of big pop of a moment, that

(14:50):
big you know, box score, that'll be on my football
reference page forever that I got a defensive touchdown. So
I think James Pierre was phenomenal once again. I think
James Pierre has started to make the coaching staff think
a little bit when it comes to when Slay gets
out of the concussion protocol, does he just go right
back to that role or does Slay take a little

(15:12):
bit of a backseat to James Pierre. I think his
play deserves more play. If you're looking at James Pierre again, it's.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Wild they went out and acquire the Steelers three veteran
cornerbacks and they had them all along Chris Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
And it's like, and that was there the way of
kind of redo it.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
You let Dante Jackson go, and this whole time he
Cameron Sutton was here last year. You think about the
veterans that they've had and they cycled through to get
to a whole new and it was sort of like
Pierre was always going to be He was always gonna
play special teams. He was always kind of a emergency
like emergency third quarterback. He was going to be the
emergency third or fourth probably fourth outside corner to some degree.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
And and this isn't really because you think about it.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
And part of it is, of course that Ramsey's been
so good at safety and the defense has been so
good as he moved to safety. You don't want to
you know, it ain't broke, don't fix the kind of situation.
But part of it also was even last week when
Sleigh went down, they had they had faith in Pierre.
They were willing to go to him. He's done it before,
he started games in the past, and he didn't when
he missed one snap, he barely left.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
The field and played every snap at one played sixty.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yeah, so he almost played every snap. And that's kind
of the faith they had him and they didn't and
he was he was.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
You had your you had outside corners. Porter and Pierre
were your outside guys the entire game. They I don't
think they followed. Yeah, I didn't see Porter like follow
Higgins all game long. Maybe there was a little bit
of that. So they both had their say in both
of the big receivers for the Bengals, but those were
the outside guys for the entirety of the football game, and.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
It seemed there was a level of trust that obviously
you get help no matter who you are generally speaking,
Oh yeah, so it's gonna be help. But but there
was a level of trust there. They didn't have to
shuffle things in and out. They actually stuck with the
and you know, for all we talked about in terms
of the different personnel and then different the schematics and
everything they did a month ago, you know, it comes

(17:01):
down at the cliche the Jimmies and the Joe's or
whatever that that I think obviously Joey Porter was there,
there's this there are some elements of the same personnel.
But if you go back to the first Bengals game,
i mean, Echoles is playing outside of a lot of
that game, you know, Joey was the only one that
you know, Ramsey's doing his thing.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Everybody, Tuger wasn't here.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
It was a totally it is a totally different secondary
and there's a level of trust now where yes, obviously
they're gonna do things that confuse people, They're gonna change things,
update they're gonna of course they're gonna do that. But
there's also like, we have now five guys generally speaking,
six depending on the package whatever, five guys in our
amongst their DB's the week. We feel pretty good about
where they're at right now. And it's wild to say

(17:43):
Chase Pierre is the answer.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
It's almost like you want to like, Okay, you know,
we talked about this with Eckles. Some don't over explain it.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
He's the answer so far. Yes, it's not like we're done. Yeah,
sign him to an extension. Porter and Pierre are your
tandem for the next ten years.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
But I thought the second half against the Charge and
they lost the game, of course, but I didn't feel
like any anyway, Pierre.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Was picked that game too. He wasn't you know, there
wasn't a big loan bright spot in that game.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
So now we have, you know, two games sample size
to go off of here, and you know, who knows
what happens whenever it's lay does get clear and how
that hole was gonna shake out or whatever. But this
point I can't imagine, certainly based on performance alone of
this season, what we've seen in the stadiums over the
past two and a half months that you could that
you would want to take Pierre out and put Sleigh

(18:29):
at this point.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
And then the other guy is Dougger, who just got
here a couple of weeks ago. He played every single
snap and that's like every game now for him. He
just never leaves the field for the Steelers, he gets
a pick six, So we get that splash from our.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
New safety, Kyle Dugger.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
You almost forgot that Deshaun Elliott's a thing that could
technically still be back this year. I know that people
were a little surprised how they were slow playing him
on IR and then now he is actually on IR,
but he's only got a couple more weeks to go
before that practice window can officially open up again for
him him. So I mean, I just you know, there's
another key piece to your secondary that you could potentially

(19:05):
get back.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
But I digress.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Kyle Dugger in the meantime has come in and be
been more than a starting caliber type of safety. He
and Ramsey, that tandem has really fixed a lot. And
Mike Tomlin has echoed that for the past couple of weeks,
past few weeks just talking about that kind of you know,
the stability at the safety position. Now it's going miles
for them and Dougger. I mean, there is just people

(19:29):
were so mad at the Steelers for not making a
trade at the trade deadline because Dougger was a week
before the trade deadline. But what a quote unquote deadline
acquisition that was. I mean, imagine where you'd be at
that position in the safety room without him right now, and.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
He's played literally every snap but won. Over the three
weeks played they have the defense has allowed and you know,
he's one part of it. But I think it's a
pretty stark turnaround. They've allowed what eighteen points per game
over the three games since Dugger's been here. They've played,
I mean, the number one offense in the league, the
first game an elite elite quarterback in Week two and

(20:03):
the second game he played in the Chargers, and then
this past week the chart of the Bengals in terms
of offensive accumulation of yards and points have been the
best offense over the past month since since Flacco got there.
Him in that game situation, I get it, but it's
one of those you know, I feel like I learned
because I instinctively anytime I still do it, but I

(20:24):
try to tell myself no, and it's cliche when I
could when Mike Tomas said, it's cliche to say, we
don't care how you got here, we're evaluating when you
get here. Like in my mind, it's like, Okay, there's
a team that's in the playoff race that's trading somebody
for essentially not nothing but a very very marginal return
of six vers seventh and you think, Okay, something's wrong here.
He's lost a step. He's a cancer in the locker.

(20:44):
I don't know what it is, but there's a reason
why the playoff team may give up on him. But
ever since he's been here, he's been none of that.
He's been a playmaker, he's been smart, he's been well
liked by his teammates. He's fitting in the room, he
fits in on the defense. It's just sometimes things are
fits and sometimes things change.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Whatever it might be. And it's really he's really been
a you.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Know, I don't want to say he's if this is
over seventeen game sample size, these three games, he's playing
at a pro Bowl levels.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
It's safety, it's well, I mean, he is.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Did you just say six or seventh rounds? You just
said six or seven.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's all I could think about since you said that there,
I'm sorry I didn't listen.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
To anything else. Now you're doing the hands we have
to go to break.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
When we come back, we're going to talk about spinning
on other people.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
That's next.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
It's Christa Dampskain Tom I'm from it on the Steelers
Blitz on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
Audio Network. It's a tough, tough look to be ejected
in a game in the second half before the fourth quarter.

(21:43):
Uh that you desperately, desperately or needed to be in
because you're Jalen Ramsey and the Bengals can pass the
ball all over the field, but they hadn't been to
that point in the game. And I think you had
a decent bit to do with that in that safety
position on the back end. But it's any even tougher
ask to get spit on and then not do anything.

(22:04):
I mean, it just is like, let's all take a
step back and correct.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
You're getting paid X amount of money. You're Jalen Ramsey.
We need you on the field.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
You're supposed to be a cooler head prevail in that situation,
be a leader, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah. Go get spit on and see how you react.
I'm serious, right, Like am I far? Am I wrong
or outlandish to say that. Charlie Batch was fired up
about this on the postgame show last night because a
caller called in and was like, you just have to
turn the other cheek and walk away, and Tary was like, correct,

(22:35):
but like you ain't doing that. I'm not doing that.
Nobody's doing that. And it is now clear as day.
I mean it is in HD four K that he
spit on him. I mean, this isn't you know Kramer
Zapruder film when it comes to that Seinfeld episode with
Keith her nanez Okay, this is like we got you

(22:56):
dead to rights here. And it's even funnier that Chase
lied after the game and said he didn't spit in It's.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Like, oh no, we got it, we got it right
on video.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
But that's kind of where I'm landing on all of
this is it does suck to see someone get ejected
that you need as badly as you need Jalen Ramsey,
especially when the game is still in doubt at that point.
They survived it though, so I mean we could kind
of look back and be like, whoo, didn't matter. And

(23:23):
also if he got ejected for something that he did,
you know what I mean, Like if Ramsey ran over
to Chase and grabbed his face mask and started jerking
him around, or if he went to the sidelines and
DX chopped him a little bit and started, you know,
giving him a bunch of crap and he got ejected
for that. I would have been like, you're an idiot,
Jalen Ramsey. That is a selfish play. Why would you

(23:44):
do that with the game on the line. That is
not the type of player you're supposed to be. You're
supposed to be in the Hall of Fame. I would
have had all those takes.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Ready to go for today. But he got spit on.
He got spit on, Like it's tough to, like say,
be a robot in that immediate situation.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
And it really wasn't like he you know, went all
Rocky Balboa on him right and started with the left, left, right,
left right. It was an immediate visceral like, ah, what
the heck was that? Punch him in the face mask,
start grabbing him, start to wrestle him. It was a
poorly officiated moment because both players clearly deserved an ejection
if one was going to get an ejection.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
And now, in.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
The benefit of hindsight, with the evidence that we have,
it looks even worse from the ref standpoint, because that
is a total instigation there by Jamar Chase.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Now, I'll give the officials the benefit of the doubt
because it took how many camera.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
You see that PI on Sunday Night Football. They don't
get the benefit of.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
The doubt this week, but we saw so many angles
of it, and you take and even Randy says that,
I don't think at that point. Okay, So the timeline
from my point of view is okay, I think you
got spin on him. But I'm seeing all this chatter
about it. I'm like, okay, no, not one fan that
even put it on social media took a still shot,
which I thought would happen if we saw so all right,

(25:01):
Ramsey says it. I'm like, I totally one hundred percent
believed him at that point, but I thought, okay, we're
still working on the alleged me. This is like the
lawyer in me or whatever. The fact I'm like, Okay,
we're still working alleged here. Maybe he's just talking. He's
a he's a he's a loud talker. And you know,
you know the Bill Cower spit comes out of his
mouth whatever it is. Yes, yes, why don't you see

(25:23):
the angle? Then post game you see the angle from
the cameraman and whatever, sorry his name, I forget his name,
God bless the Fox nineteen or whatever it was in
Cincinnati who had the definitive angle that it's unambiguous. I
don't know how there's any way that that that not
the good group. But the look of it, that's not
an accidental There's a lot going on there. So Jalen

(25:45):
Ramsey after the game, he actually he stood up. He
knew that there was a level of accountability on his part.
I don't know how to say. He he knew he
wanted to say his piece. He was very measured with
it and very uh, you know, calm about it. That
was pretty funny, and said, well, once he spin on me,

(26:07):
it's on, then screw football.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
It's like at that point, I really don't blame him.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
So it is, and if the official had seen it,
and I'm not, I'm not going to try to blame
the official because it took how many camera angles for
anybody to to be able to confirm it. But then
if they both get ejected at that point, you can't
really because at that point, I don't even know you'd
probably even take that as good as Jaysn Ramsey is.
I think we take a trade.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Jayleen jam I was thinking in the initial moment when
it looked like they were both gonna get gone, I
was like, that's a good play, Like, I was like,
that's especially if you're ahead, to take away their best weapon,
one of the best weapons for the best wide receiver
in football care.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
So, yeah, you get some peppers, you got some calor
what you you probably it's having a lead to take
away that their biggest threat to score at any given
moment was worth it, and by by any reasonable account,
he should have been chased a bit, especially could play
before they both got warned with the AGA.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I man, even if you didn't see him spit, like,
that's just kind of like we're taking them both, you
know what I mean, Like that's just kind of like
the default thing for Rest, because I think they kind
of cover their own backside that way, where they're like
who started, who finished.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
I don't care. You're both done.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
So that way, I don't get criticized after the game
for only taking one of you when I should have
taken both of you. Should have followed that playbook here,
because you absolutely should have taken both of them. In fact,
if you were to argue for one to stay, it
would be Ramsey who deserves to stay on the field,
because that was just in retaliation, and that was just
into response for the egregious act of another man spitting
on another man. And Jalen Ramsey said that that was

(27:37):
cowardly in a different word, but he said that that
was cowardly after the game for someone to do that,
and I agree with him there, And it's so bad
to be spinning on another person.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
So I think Jamar Chase.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
In the wake of the incident is on the bad
side of the PR and Jalen Ramsey on the wake
of the incident is finding himself for someone who was
ejected about as good a PR as you can get.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yeah, And I guess said I thought I was.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
I thought he handled it very well in terms of
once and obviously win the game.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
It's it's probably a lot easier.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
I'm sure at that point the emotion of it, he
had de escalated himself and was able.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
To said, here's what he said, here's the facts, what
happened up the game.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
He went through the timeline of the entire game, the
talking they did, and you saw it, and you go
back and watch the government.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
You watch saw it live. I'm sure you.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Retweeted from a clip from training camp Jim and Ramsey
saying he wants all the smoke with Jamar Chase. That
was in August, and that was a great retweet by
your partner. It was just like, hey, we should have
seen this coming, Like he knew that this was how
he wanted to go at Jamar Chase. And this is
a man who was going to the Hall of Fame
one day for what he did against number one wide

(28:46):
receivers in this league. He knows how to handle them.
If he thinks you can get in Jamar Chase's head
by talking to him, he gonna do it. And guess
what he kind of got into Jamar Chase's head, did
he not? Chris?

Speaker 3 (28:57):
And remember they have a history. They met each other
in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Whenever rams you would rate at the peak of his
powers as a as a number one shut probably at
that point the number one shut down corner in the league.
Right in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
One, he was a blockbuster trade by the Rams.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Yeah, so if you go by that and just that
that I'm leading, and then you have two weeks of
build up to that. I mean, how many people were
talking about that point and if you look at just
look at pff here off of the you know, jamar
Ches had two catches in that game against Jaylen Ramby now.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
There for sixty three yards.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
But so you know that there was a history at
that point between those two the dates back to then,
and they're both I mean, like again, you can make
the case and I wrote this, and I mean you
can argue whatever, it's it's all real, whatever, but that
Ramsey is the best corner of his generation. I guess
you say best dB now you're certainly in a discussion.
And Chase is the best of his era, the best

(29:50):
wide receiver. Right, So you have two alpha personalities here
to alpha that know they're good. I mean, Chase is
still young enough here to.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Say they're not on the same neah, they're not running
parallel exactly.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
But that's why in twenty twenty one. I think they
were both kind.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Of still in the same yeah, in the same realm
Ramsey probably, yes, exactly kind of caliber.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Like Rams He's definitely a gold jacket Chase if he
got hurt screwing the injury tomorrow would he make and
I don't know, but he's still a good case exactly
sort of yeah, so we certainly if he keeps any
sort of reasonable track of you know, age and play
a few more years. So he's definitely Hall of fame
too to do. Hall of Fame guy Dogs And they've
been talking and Chase that's isn't it. I mean the
whole ro raw dog. You know, he did that before

(30:30):
the most game.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
But a lot of talk of there. Joey Porter Junior
has been talking with him.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Chase has had a lot of big games against the
a lot of off you know, a lot of points scored.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
The Beangals in the Steelers talk.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I mean, this is kind of a cool. It's the
kind of a thing that goes from era to era.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's not like, well, berfis done and pac Man's done,
so we're done talking. And no, it's it's crazy too
to get because I have like Jermaine Pratts come up
and say stuff last year like, ah, that offense was
so predictive.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
The most the most like descript Yeah, yeah, this, but
it looks like each other because the Bengals rivalry a
mendo going way back. I mean they used to have
the Olilers people because Steelers Browns is always a thing.
I mean, just the proximity and just the history going
way back, and Steelers Ravens has been kind of what
you think of as the because they've been the two
best teams in the division over the past twenty five.

(31:17):
They'll go back and forth that way. So that's and
that still is a big So the Bengals is kind
of like the forgotten rivalry in some ways, but it's
it's been the not I mean, I mean, Steeers Ravens
has had its moments.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Of course, all three of them hit well, that's you do,
that's good, that's a night. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
The Steelers are definitely number one rival of all three,
and that's that's the Maybe that's why the Bengals get
so angry because the Bengals are the number three rival
of the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
You know what I'm saying right there, And we don't
care about you, little brother.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
It's kind of like, and I'll this this what it's like,
Penn State, Ohio State, think Ohio State cares about Fenn State. Meanwhile, Pensilvy,
it's our rival. You know what.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
That kind of thank you for going that route. You
could have gone another route with another team from the state,
but they had a rough weekend, so I appreciate.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
You doing that for me.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Uh but yeah, they are a chippy team. Are These
are teams that like to get chippy with each other.
And Jalen Ramsey and Jamar Chase obviously no exception to
that rule in the game on Sunday and now you know,
like you saw Ramsey, he was not leaving the field
like Hayward was in his face, like everybody was kind
of having to de escalate talk him off the ledge.

(32:21):
And I think it's pretty clear why that was the case,
because a man spit on him.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
So with everything to that point, you're watching real time.
They had been physical all game, talking all game. Don't
mean I'm sorry, but it's like you're wondering what he did,
like to all Chase DIDs something like at first, I'm
like he pushed his buttons and he got him out
of the game. But then but now, don't you know
that everything just makes sense. You watch it all falls
into place, and you're.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Like, I bet you know, I'm gonna have to go
in the air with the show I do later today
with Mark, and he's probably gonna take the side of
you know, you can't do that. You got to stay
in the game because he's right. I mean, you got
to keep your emotions in check. He sped on him though,
like it just I can't get over that part. I
think there is a little bit of a difference there.
I think there is a bit of extenuating circumstances there. Now,

(33:05):
we haven't talked about the quarterback thing yet.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
That's got to set a record.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Why I haven't because I'm a little upset right now
with Steelers Nation.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Can I say right now we'll do all.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
The quarterback talk to start the second hour, like the
real in depth deep dive. I'm a little upset with
Steelers Nation right now because we just saw Mason freaking
Rudolph come in for the second half of this game.
Anytime the offense touched the ball with him at quarterback,
they ended up scoring points by the way field goal
on one drive and a touchdown on the other gets
you to this win, helps navigate you there.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
And all I'm seeing is the time for Will Howard.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
Should we think about maybe putting Will Howard into the game.
What if Rogers can't go? You got to see what
you got with Will Howard? What about Will Howard? Will Howard,
Will Howard, Will Howard, Will Howard, Will Howard. Mason Rudolf
literally cannot do anything right in this fan base's eyes.
I'm sorry to put words in your mouth, fan base,
but I feel that way when I see that be
the immediate reaction. Today's reaction should be thank you for
coming back to Pittsburgh, Mason Rudolph. Thank you for coming

(33:59):
back and being one of the best better backup quarterbacks
in the NFL. Because everybody saw this coming at the
beginning of the season, that Rodgers was at least gonna
need some help, that there was gonna at least need
to be some relief at some point during this year.
He's forty one freaking years old, and it finally happened.
He breaks his wrist, small break, but he breaks his wrist,
can't come back in the second half. You turn things
over to Mason Rudolph, and the offense just doesn't miss

(34:21):
a beat. In fact, it kind of looks better. It
kind of runs smoother than it did with Rogers in there.
And you know what else Rudolph did. He provided a
jolt to that team, as so many backup quarterbacks do.
Because the teams that are real teams, the teams that
are contenders, the teams that want to win something, their
starter goes out, they don't pout, they don't woe as me,
They don't say, how are we gonna do this with
Mason now?

Speaker 1 (34:40):
They go, all right, let's get jacked up. We got
to help Mason out here. We've got to be at
our even better level because of Mason Rudolph now checking
into this game. And the team did that defensively, the
team did that offensively. Today should be a day of
adoration thanking Mason Rudolph for being here and helping keep
our season afloat. What if Well goes in that game

(35:01):
and it's still in doubt and he throws a pick six,
What if he looks like Shular Sanders out there, Bengals
might win that football game. All of a sudden, you're
five and five and tied with the Ravens. Nope, Mason
Rudolph comes in and he helps guide you to victory.
And now I'm sitting here from a position that's like
we go to Chicago and Aaron's not ready.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I'm not writing it off. I don't think that.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
It's a foregone conclusion that Steelers can't win this game
because they got a good backup in Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
But no Chris.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Today, I'm hearing about Will Howard, and I'm hearing about
how maybe you should give the kid a shot. Why
are we trying to give the kid a shot when
you're six and four and in first place of your division.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I'm fired up.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
You can tell you.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
But am I wrong? Is it warranted?

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Man? I'm glad I do.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Are you seeing those same things that I am? Or
am I making this up?

Speaker 3 (35:42):
I don't. I'm not as much.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
It kind of would over like when I have at home,
whenever I gotta work, I don't get to hear the
post game show. I'm sure that this is part of
your aunt because you hear all that. That's the real reaction.
That's kind of the pulse of the fan base. A
lot of this is Twitter too, tweets. It's wild. I
mean again, I don't want it, but Mason. They were
five for six on third down with Mason. Aaron was
nine for his previous forty on third downs. Think about that,

(36:07):
what three and a half games, and that counts the
two garbage they were nine for against the I guess
the Chargers the garbage time drive when they had two
only two third down con versions of that game against
in LA, the Seers were nine for their previous forty
on third downs and Mason comes in. They're five for
six and that included three that were of eleven plus uard. Now,
one of them was just Dayne Dwayne Washington. Wow, Darnell Washington,
just this fe five four fumbing, just stomping on people

(36:29):
and just went, oh I will get first down and
just you know, go it's crazy, but we'll talk. I'm
sure we'll get to that at some point too. But
that being said, they conferred, and I've heard some sort
of marginal lateization of it.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Well, you know, he was just kind of dumping it off. Well,
I mean that's what that's what they've been doing all
year pretty much. For one thing, Hey be they the lead.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
So that was you know, it happened two of the
longer pass plays were called back, one by the DK
metcalf OPI, which yeah, I don't know, it was a
great call anyway, and another one was what was the
other one called back? There's another read oh the one
where dk fhill down for seemly ount knowwhere what seemed
like those are the two farthest passes downfield that Maslin

(37:07):
threw and they didn't get either one of them common
because of we're able to count because of factors out
of the tide of his control.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Yeah, I don't know, but look at even even we
could even bring this back to look how bad Russell
Wilson was. Is the backup for the Giants this year?
I guess the Giants different team. Blah blah blah. Thank
you for service, Russell. You won some games on the
stretch last year. Don't mean to pile on him, but
it shows an example of a backup quarterback, even a
veteran guy who has a resume, who isn't ready to
step in and help you win a game or keep
you in a game or whatever it is. So yes,

(37:34):
there should be some tips of caps to Mason Rudolph
out there.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Teddy KGB's gonna hand out money next.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
We forgot to do this in the first segment, though,
so Max hit us with some woo who's who oh
who love Max Stark's victory woo Who's. I'm very sorry
that we preempted you in that first segment. There's a
lot on my mind today. I mean, your defense scores
two touchdowns, your quarterback goes down with the wrist injury.
People want the third string to go in, even though

(38:01):
the second string looks great.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
I get fired up.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
I'm sorry this morning. I didn't hear what you're fired.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
This is just plain old angst.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
And we didn't even have victory donut. Maybe that sugar
would have been what.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
We needed, the sugar.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Maybe my blood sugar is low. Although I don't think
you get fired up when your blood sugar saw.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I think it's the opposite, all right, Teddy KGB.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Next, we're handing out money makers on the Steelers Blitz
on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers Audio Network.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
You're to pass out to the left flat for game
Weell gets to the edge and scampers into the end
zone and Kenneth Gainwell has given the Steelers an early
lead on this opening drive with a touchdown back pass
looking left the game on the left flat games.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Well shrugs off the tackle.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
And gets into the end zone for Fitzburg Steelers touchdown.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Mmm.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Oh yeah, and that wasn't even all of it.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Oh there were a couple of twenty yard catches in
there too. Kenny g had himself a moment in that
game against the Bungles.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
What a great performance by him. And he's been kind
of in.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
The crosshairs lately Chris, no reason in particular from his
own doing, just that we wanted to see more of
Jalen Warren, So he's been kind of through that lens
being like, get this kind of Gainwell off the field. Well,
boy did he show out again Cincy. They needed him
and he stepped up, especially after Warren had the ankle injury.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yet yeah, kind of again, crazy how things that, narratives
or things developed. But yeah, the week when everybody wanted
to see less of Gainwell and more of Warren, Warren
gets hurt, Gainwell plays even more than he was leading
up to it, and then he has the two touchdowns
and just looks dynamic and does everything.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
I don't think to a man anybody who was calling
for more Jalen Warren over the past seven days since
the Chargers game, and there was a lot of that,
and I thought, rightfully, so was me too? Was disparaging
Kenny Kenneth Gainwell while doing that?

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, it wasn't from the angle of heastanks like it
wasn't Cordeeral Patterson two point Oh you know what I mean,
why is this on the field?

Speaker 2 (40:09):
He sucks? No, not at all with Kenny g Yeah,
he's He's a.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Much much better upgrade in terms of the Arthur Smith
toy in the backfield to you, because that's essentially the
role he kind of took, was the Cordero but Patterson role.
And he's been so much better, uh than Patterson was
last year for the Steelers, and you could. I mean,
he does he does some things of the receiving game.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
He does.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
He's a much better runner in terms of just straight carries,
you know, even some under centered type carries that I
thought he'd ever was or ever would be. I forgot
too that I never made the connection him and Calvin
Austin were teammates at Memphis, so that they go back
a while in terms of that because Calvin Ostin was
talking about how Grady Way.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
He was a great running back.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
I do remember a game on college for sure, and yeah,
it was ud to see that he got two recents.
I was surprised he didn't have a receiving touched on it.
See what ten players with receiving touchdowns more than they
had They had nine all of last year, and then
it gets even better. They had five the year before
that and sixth year before that. Play different players have touchdowns,
and then through ten ten games they already have ten
players with touchdown or receiving touchdown this season.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Well, I'm gonna make Kenneth gain Well. Kenny g my
money maker today. So Teddy KGB played that me, and yes,
please get him some money. Please he deserves. It's a
great performance by him. And I know you got to
get to your money maker. But let me just put
this out there. Okay, Kenneth Gainwell has the first down back.
Let it sit there, Let it sit there, let it

(41:35):
sit there, and let it marinate. Jalen Warren goes back
to more of that third down back roll and expanded
third downback roun. I'm not saying only third downs. He
can get first and second downs too. I'm just saying, Chris,
I've seen Kenneth Gainwell be that first and second down
back for a decent amount of time for two games now,
and then each time he's kicking an.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Ass and you know what day line they they they've
done it. They did it probably more just by the
eye tests or ink DoD it without doing in the
numbers or whatever. In terms of we saw that lot
in camp where he was lined up as a wide receiver.
There's a there were some snaps where they were both
on the field, but it was Gainwell out wide. Those
type of things, there's a lot, there's a lot of
things you could use them see him being used in

(42:14):
that way too. So you know, I still think if
we're gonna spell them, give him a whole possession pretty much,
let him go and if they need you know, if
there's a long run or something where there on the field,
then you can take them out for a player too,
but just give him possession at a time, I think,
because they both can excel in that area. And and yeah,
I mean it was it was a good example. You know,
the Dublin game was an example when Warren wasn't about

(42:35):
this game. He wasn't Warren wasn't available essentially most of
the second half there, So it was a similar every
time he's gotten to have to be the lead guy
he's been And I mean, I think it's definitely at
this point and we'll see what kind of future Caleb
Johnson has and I ready to write them off yet,
but at this point, based on these one and a
half games and based off the whole body of work

(42:55):
for the season, Gainwell is clearly if he's not your
he's clearly one of your top two running backs.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
Right.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
I mean, there's no there's no more reason to sit
here and say Cayler Johnson to play more because every
time game Will gets in there in first and second.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Although Caleb Johnson a little pop in this game, man,
juice in this game.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, it was there, starting to turn the tires a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
It's getting and I think this point that's what you're
looking for is to get him, assimilate him gradually into
it and get him make some plays, get some confidence,
and you know, maybe next year we'll see what either
long way.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
To go to next year?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Who's your offensive money maker?

Speaker 3 (43:28):
You gotta go with five fo fum don't know.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Washington just stomping on people and throwing them aside, just
looking like it's, you.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Know, shut down the Angry Runs contest this week, Man,
who needs any more submissions? That's the angry run of
the year right there. The only thing that could have
made it better is if he got in the end zone.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
The only cherry on top would have been that.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I mean, it was just perfect.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
It was one of the most fun plays to watch
in years, I feel like, because it was just three
in a row and everybody has their road like Jerry
Doulac put on put on Twitter, how the part he
loves is DJ think he's punching the ball on I
was like, no, just slap, get it out of the way.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
You're gonna punch the ball. I'm gonna punch you out.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
But yet at my favorite but was Gito Stove.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
I was like, talk about your business, come on, dorm.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Go well, crap, thank you for I mean, I can't fool.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
But that doesn't even mention The very first one is
a stiff arm with his stick of arm just shoving
down up to retire to that sixty pound lineb or whatever.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
You know, it's just wild that uh what he.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Did and that and that wasn't even his only one.
They had other runs like that too. I think he's
finally kind of like discovering himself as.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Like Mike Pursudas said it so beautifully on the post
game show last night. He finally has the confidence that
he'll catch the football so he doesn't have to, you know,
like think about that first step, but he's starting to
think about what I can do with it in my
hands afterwards. And it's it's threat, to say the least
for an opposing defense on the defensive side of the ball.
I think there's really two candidates here. I'm gonna go
with James Pierre's mine and all over the field a

(45:09):
couple of passes, defense really good in coverage, got the
scoop and score touchdown. And this is really kind of
a two week thing because he has been falling out
for the Steelers defense. So get yourself some money, James Pierre,
And you're gonna go with Kyle Duggar.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
I have to, I mean a touchdown he you know,
he's just making It's amazing how well he's fit in
he's been. He hasn't made any mistakes mental mistakes there.
You don't see any mistackles and blown He's never the
guy that you know, you're like, well, there's a long
play wise and.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
He there, he took a pat it and there's none
of that. It's been all that.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
It's almost it's the compliment where you don't notice the
most of the game, and then you notice him. When
you do notice him, he's making big plays one or another,
breaking up a pass or or obviously a pick six
where he showed his big playability there.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
So, yes, Kyle Duggar deserves it.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
That are our money makers for today.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
When Chris and I come back, we will get into
that quarterback situation a lot more. Mason Rudolph in for
the injured Aaron Rodgers. How long will that last? And
how viable is it for success for the Steelers if
it does last a couple of weeks. That's next on
the Steelers Blitz on Steelers Nation Radio, part of the
Steelers Audio Network.