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Speaker 1 (00:08):
All right, you want the conspiracy theory first, I do,
too bad, you're not getting it. First. We're gonna talk
about the state of the AFC first. I am so
on this train of thought Chris tom Offerm and Chris
Dampsky on the Steelers blitz by the way, that it's
not just the AFC North and the Steelers that have
to be like, oh my god, the Ravens are hauling
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ass in that fast lane right next to us. They
are almost they're almost parallel to us neck and neck
right now. So it's not just that that I think
needs to start being brought to the attention of everybody.
And you're seeing that kind of on the Nationals goes like, ah,
Steelers probably aren't gonna win the division. It looks like
the Ravens the North a rap guys, your national shows. Okay,
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I need bigger. Okay, I need you to dream bigger.
I need better takes than this. I don't need these boring,
sleepy all the Ravens might come back and win the
AFC North. We've been on that for weeks. Okay, I
need you to start saying the Ravens are going to
win the AFC. I need you people to get out
there on your ESPNS, on your Fox Sports is and
you just say the Ravens are the best team in
the AFC. I need you just say that they're going
to win the AFC. I don't know if I necessarily
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believe that especially they're the best team in the AFC part,
but that's a spicy take that I think has enough
right now, enough legs to it. Get it out there
and advance it, because I truly truly believe that it's
not just the Steelers that should be worried about this
sleeping giant that seems to have woken up. It is
the rest of the AFC. It is the rest of
the conference. You know, everybody's kind of like, oh, the Chiefs,
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like they're five and four. We're worried about the Chiefs.
As they get in they're going to go on a rampage.
And that's because the Chiefs have earned that respect. They
go to the Super Bowl every year. The Ravens, on
the other hand, choke. They never get to but one
AFC championship game in Lamar Jackson's tenure, and then they
lost to Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. Because they Chiefs
just go to the Super Bowl every year, but they've
only gotten to that point once the Final four with
Lamar Jackson as the quarterbacks, so they don't have that
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benefit of the doubt. But damn it. Like if you're
the Patriots, if you're the Colts, if you're Denver, if
you're one of these young, upstart teams, Baltimore is one
of the last teams you should want to see coming
into your stadium with the chance to go to the
AFC Championship Game, with the chance to maybe go to
the Super Bowl. If you squeak past the Chiefs, if
the Ravens squeak past the Chiefs. So again, I know
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that this is Steelers Nation Radio and everybody out there
hates to hear this, but I'm just saying, like, if
that defense and they have to play better teams before
I really start to like dig in on this, But
if that defense continues to play to a level that
they're playing at and even slightly worse they can afford,
and Lamar is healthy, which he didn't practice yesterday, by
the way, but if he can stay healthy, that team
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is as deadly as anyone. And we always thought that
would be the case all off season in training camp,
in preseason and after even their first couple losses, we
were like, okay, they're still the create a big threat
in the AFC conference. And then when they're one and five,
you kind of just are forced to kind of be like,
we got to forget about them for a little bit.
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But now here they are, after a three game winning
streak at four and five and forcing their way back
into the conversation. And I think it should be the
entire conference as a whole that should be like crap,
It's not just the Chiefs that are kind of off
the mat and are gonna have a factor as a
wild card, but it's the Ravens who got off the
mat and not only are gonna have a factor as
a wild card, but are probably gonna get a home
game to kick this thing off too.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean, it's not out of the If they do
win the division, that means they probably win at least
you know, nine and two down the stretch, probably that
that gets into ten wins, and that's probably what you're
looking at. And if they win the division, they I mean,
because it's face it, they've already won three in a row.
They got Browns, Jets, Bengals and then another Bengals two
weeks later. If they can't win, if I mean, they
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better win three out of the four at very least
for sure of those games. And then you know, just
even when things are clicking in all cylinders for either team,
it feels like it's always a split with the Steelers
at some point, right, so they're gonna win one of these.
They got the Steelers at home first time, although recently
it's been almost flipped in terms of who win where
it feels like in some ways a last year it wasn't.
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But it seems like the Steelers Ravens are gonna split
no matter what.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
They have the new New England and Green Bay. But regardless,
what I'm just saying is like to corroborate your point
if they go into the playoffs winning nine out of
eleven or you know even what to say, eight out
of ten and then week eighteen, may know whatever it
might be at some point here, Yeah, that's probably a
team you don't want to face, especially when it was
the freaking sup the the super Bowl favorite to start
them by all betting markets, and generally speaking, I mean,
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Buffalo was there, but it wasn't Baltimore in terms of
Vegas before the seedon started, I think we win the AFC.
So you have that team to begin with, and you
and then you have it playing better in the second
half rather than.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I mean, you feel like I have a playing like
it was supposed to play and it got healthy.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, that's true, it's definitely. I mean that the defense
thing was what I was hung up on the first
when they were when they were one and three there,
one and four, actually even they lost forty four to
ten to Houston. I mean, think about that. Houston can't
score on anybody, Like I remember sitting that point, I'm like,
what are we talking about here? I get the Ravens,
but the it's something fundamentally broken here. And then the
next week they went on. They played the Rams, who
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might be the super Bowl favorite right now, you know,
at least I might pick them to win the Super Bowl,
and they held them to the seventeen points. Now, they
lost the game because Cooper Rush is terrible, and they
lost seventeen to three to the Rams that day, but
at least that was a turnaround for the defense. Ever
since then, defense has been one of the best in
the league point wise. I mean, they've allowed what is
it over these past four games? Now, you know fifteen
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sixteen points per game they're allowing the past four games,
So that's that would be one of that would lead
the league for the season. So yeah, I if this
continues and it's like you know, you saw it come,
it's I probably saw everybody saw it come. I think
I was just refusing to acknowledge it preps and you know,
you went out and said, you.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Just want to ignore uncomfortable things. You know, I get
that in my life, things that make me uncomfortable. I
would rather just bury my head in the sand and
ignore them. Please go away, don't bother me. But the
Ravens are forcing themselves into this conversation. They're bothering again,
not just the Steelers. They're bothering you. New England they're
bothering you, and Indianapolis they're bothering you, Kansas City, they're
bothering you. Denver, they're bothering you Los Angeles like they're
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a bother They don't. You don't want the Ravens. You
don't want them. In the playoffs. You had a chance
to get rid of them, and now they're just they're
four and five. They're right there.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
It was your hot take when they were one and five.
Today be six and six for the Steelers. It was
a hot take then and now it's again. I mean they.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Got Browns Jets. It gets tough because they got Steelers.
The Bengals can score. Then they got the Pats, then
they got the Packers. Steelers again, like, it gets tougher.
They get the Bengals twice too, So yeah, it's a
tougher stretch for them after this Browns Jets little you know,
back to back game they got, but that's gonna get
them over five hundred. The Browns Jets swing and then
it's like, all right, let's go from there.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, once they get the six and five, it's pretty
much at that point you rehit. You've hit reset. At
that point, you know, no matter what the Steelers in
the next two weeks, you know you're going to have
a chance to get to play them for the division. Right,
no matter what the Ravens do when the steelerst what
the Steelers do the next three weeks, the Ravens know
they they'll have the opportunity, assuming they take care of business,
play player for their division.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yes, even if the Steelers win out from now until then,
that game in December seventh will be for the driver's
seat if the Ravens win their next three games, which
they'll be favored to win their next three games. That
Thanksgiving Night is against Cincinnati, though again they'll score points
the Bengals, so that'll be a tricky game no matter
who the joe is that quarterback come that time, that's wild.
It'll it'll definitely be a chance to potentially give the
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Ravens another loss. But I don't give a shot to
the Browns of the Jets to.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You, Yeah, I mean at this point you can't. I mean,
those can't trust them. Did you see that?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
We though the Jets are winning too much right now.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And this emphasize is circling back to how bad the
Bengals are. But did you see justin Field's game log? Right?
Did you see his like his passing yards over the
past month in games? Okay, he was, uh so the
three to the last four games he's played right, nine
for seventeen for forty five yards, six for twelve or
forty six yards, and six for eleven and fifty four yards.
Then there's one game in certain in the middle where
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he's twenty one to thirty two for two hundred and
forty four yards. I guess what that one game? Who
the opponent is for that?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Who was it? The Bengals? And they won that game? Right? Yes, yeah,
they won that game, and then they won the game
last week. He threw for like sixty yards. Yeah, but
how did they win that game? He only threw for
like sixty yards. But this shows how bad the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yes, that a team that cannot get one hundred passing
yards any game all of a sudden lights them up
for you know, two fifty.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Bengals get life if they beat the Steelers this week though,
So the Steelers got to give him that kill shot
and make sure that it is truly a two team
race when it comes to the AFC North between the
Steelers and the Baltimore Ravens. Okay, I'm gonna give you
an option of two pods here. Okay. Pod one has
the Chiefs, the Bills, and the Ravens in it. Pod
two has the Patriots, the Broncos, and the Colts in
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It's like old school against Like, which pod are you
taking to get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I'm still taking the first one.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Pod one, Right, the Chiefs the Bills and the Ravens.
That's the one that you trust and honestly get the
Bills out of there right now. Yeah, Just the Chiefs
and the Ravens, I feel like, are the ones and
then you get the Ravens out of it too. Chiefs
are the only team now that are in Pod one,
Chiefs or the Colts. The Patriots are the Broncos. It's
the Chiefs, right, Oh my god, we can't beat.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
This team and that pod that we and you threw
out the one that maybe is the most and they're
literally two teams out of the playoffs they started day
the eighth and ninth seed are yeah, and you still
take them And that's but so right, I mean we've
how many times is the rest of AFC banging his
head against the wall and Joe Burrow got through that
one time to beat the Chiefs over the past what
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is it seven years now? I mean, where are we
at in twenty eighteen? Tom Brady was still a Patriot
at that point. He's retired for three years now and
played for the Bucks for three years and way back
to that point whenever now the Patriots, the Patriots have
cycled older and run back and built themselves back up again,
go hit the rock bottom and fired Bill Belichick, and
think of all their sequence events to get to this point,
right back to where we started. Whereas the Chiefs are
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gonna win every year anyway, didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Exactly, although I am saying with the Patriots, you know,
it's just every week they're making it harder and harder
to kind of resist, be like, you're not there yet,
You're not there yet. Dang it, it's ahead of schedule.
You're gonna lose in the wild card. You're the team
that'll get upset at home. Eh. Every week that Drake
May continues to look like an MVP, and every week
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that they just keep stacking wins and now an impressive
win against the Buccaneers, it's harder and harder to resist them.
And Chris is they keep stacking wins. I mean, there
are so many layups to come on their schedule. I
mean it's hard now to not see them get to
twelve wins at the very least, and that's probably going
to be able to win a division unless the Bills
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can really start to come on strong. But they play
tough teams like the Bills have a tough schedule that
they have to go through. So the Patriots, they're gonna
be a twelve thirteen win team that can't be ignored
as much as you want to ignore it. And then
the other team in Pod one that you kind of
are already starting to believe in. But I think in
a couple of weeks time, when they play the Chiefs,
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that'll be the real tester is the Colts. And they
had a huge bounce back against the Falcons after losing
to the Steelers. But when they play the Chiefs, if
they beat the Chiefs, if they keep it close, make
a competitive go oh, you know what, I'd love to
see that again. I'd love to see round two in
the AFC Championship game. You know, then you push the
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Colts more towards that. Yeah, I believe in them. They're
a contender. Range the Broncos, though, that just seems like
a smoke and mirrors team. And maybe that's a little
too harsh because their defense is truly great and that's
how they're winning the games. But you know, I look
at the Colts and we're talking about a great offense.
Jonathan Taylor's Offensive Player of the Year, Danny Dimes is
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playing great. They make the move for Sauce Gardner, so
they can have a very good complimentary defense. You look
at the Patriots, Drake May is the MVP front runner
right now. Their offense is getting better and better every week.
Josh McDaniels says, such a great handle on that, and
he and May have a great relationship. And then Vrabel's
a defensive guy that has the defense playing over their
heads and being a good compliment. And then the Broncos
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offense is just so abysmally bad that it's hard, like
if I had to rate Pod one or Pod two there,
it's hard for me to see them even in the
same light as the Colts and the Patriots right now.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, and I but they have a chance this week
if they beat the Cheese, I know they got them.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
You know, just like I said with the Colts, this
is their chance to make a statement. But if they
beat them, like six to three, it's still gonna be like, ah, God.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Well, at some point then you're you've gotta acknowledge that
the defense is good enough for I don't want to
They're not to this level. I'm not going to bring up,
you know, two thousand Ravens.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Or whatever, but where you could win no matter what.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, how about the twenty fifteen Broncos where Peyton Manning
had half an arm and they weren't.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
One no matter what.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, because the defense was so good. There's there's a
there's a point where the defense is good enough that
no matter how quote unquote ugly, they're winning.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
The refs also let Peyton Manning slide and then get
back up and again, so situate.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And then who was the running back at Tucson?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yes, never forget it?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, yeah, I forgot his name.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I guess, but got sea effort by the Steelers at
Mile High Stadium that day, got see effort, no Browns,
no Bell. Ben Roethlisberger had no arm because he literally
tore it in half against the Bengals the week prior
and then had to come back to win that game. Well,
actually perfect won that game by going nuts and trying
to decapitate a b But like, there was no like
Ben could barely throw the Ben in That was a
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game featuring two quarterbacks that are going to the Hall
of Fame in the playoffs. Neither of them could throw
the ball more than ten.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Right, I forgot about that. Yeah, And Samdy coach that
was like his career his career game. Yes, Steelers, Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Got sea effort by the Steelers defense, got the effort
by the Steelers. Peyton Minning slid and then was allowed
to get back up. It's bs. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That was definitely the veterans call there where you know,
you talk about veterans getting getting calls or whatever, but
that there's no way that a non Hall of Fame
face of the league quarterback would be.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Able to do that. That'd be blown dead immediately. But anyway,
we don't think this Broncos defense is that good where
they can just no matter what you're doing on offense,
just get us to like fifteen points even and we'll
probably win you a game.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, it's hard. The heart, I don't know if it's
the level it's that sustainable against the run through the
you know, Chiefs and Lamar Ravens flying and all the
cylinders or whatever. Even for that matter, you want to
say that the Colts of the Patriots, the Pod two
teams the other Pod two teams in a playoff, that
they'll be able to win multiple games that way. But
there's a point where you got to acknowledge again if
they shut down the Chiefs this week and their defense
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is keep doing what they're doing, that there's a chance
that and you still could believe there's meeting the bone
on the offense there with with Bo Nicks and Sean
Payton and maybe they could put you know, you've seen
flashes of it, but you know you're kind of getting
that almost vibes the uh you know, vibes like JJ
McCarthy type vies. We're like, Okay, he's making plays late,
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we'll give them props for that, but you know, he's
he's sort of like the rich man's J. J McCarthy
right now, are they Okay, he's making some plays, he's
winning games, so we'll give them read it. But he's
also on totality. This isn't sustainable to be this met
the rest of the game every single week.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Are there any creepers that you think you gotta be
worried about in the safety playoff picture? And by creepers,
I mean the Texans, the Bengals, the Jags, the teams
that are like, eh, you're still around, we still have
to treat you seriously. And the Jags have a winning
record and are actually in the playoffs right now. But
come on, they're a creeper, you know what I mean, Like,
no one really takes them seriously. So any one of
those three that you buy into. If the Bengals win
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this week, they're serious, I think. But the one out
of that three that I'm like looking at is like, Okay,
you're kind of creeping up and you could be a thing.
Is the Texans.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, they're definite to me. That definitely stand out that
way that you have. They start zero three and now
they won four to six. They have the Titans this
week's they're probably gonna not five and six, and obviously
cross them off at that point. They got the Colts twice. Now,
I'm not saying they can win the division, but if
they do get hot here, they'll be a little bit.
They have a good combination of the rest of the
season to have opportunities to show they belong by playing
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the Colts twice, playing the Bills and the Chiefs, and
also what should be if they are anywhere near also
the Chargers in there lay up wins that that they
could help them stack wins in terms of having the Titans,
the Cardinals and the and the Raiders there, so.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Those games down the stretch, Yeah, but they do get
off the mat. Yeah, they'll prove a lot and they'll
be dangerous in the playoffs because of.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The people they will. I mean, this defense is legit.
They are. It's similar in some ways, although they have
what you think isn't it as a top quarterback and
start to assume when he gets healthy. Unlike Knicks, where
you're still kind of you. You're more proof of Stroud
being able to put it together than Knicks at this point.
And the Texans were, they're what the the preseason favorite
to win the division and everything they you know, the
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talent's there with Winterson's the hell of a player on
the defense, and they're getting hot now and number one
the league in scoring defense. Right. If you have that
in your in your club, But what golf bag? What
am I that? Whatever? I try to say, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I don't know what just happened there?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
If the number what'scoring defense? You have that in.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Your your your your tool box. There's a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I've failed, every single one of them.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Now, do you want to hear my conspiracy theory before
we go to break? Okay, forgot about it? Right? Large
sleep a little bit there. It has to do with
the Toush push. We didn't talk much about the Monday
night football game this week because it was awful. It
was a defensive struggle, but there was once again, you know,
clips that got out about the Toush push where the
guard and the tackle are moving before the center and
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the ball is snapped. They're clearly false starts, and they
call it for every other freaking team, but the Eagles.
The Steelers got called for a false start on the push.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
On top of that, they call off sides against the
defense if they do the same thing against these.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Exactly, so they always jump on that. It is. It
is a given now, and there is so much attention
publicly on it and so much talk internet wise that like,
you know, the league and the reps are aware of it.
Like it's not like they're just so head in the clouds.
It's like, wait, people think the Eagles are false starting
and there's video evidence of this that are getting onto
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the internet. No, they're seeing it too, and it's not
getting fixed. It's not being refed more tightly. An you
want to know why why? Because I think the league
wants to ban the play and I think their play
right now is to say it's too hard to officiate.
And I think they're trying to fuel that fire a
little bit and they're saying, hey, let's lax a little
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bit on it comes to the Eagles, Let's get a
little public outrage, and like they're always false, starting building
up some nice evidence because there is no evidence as
far as injuries. That was the first tact that the
NFL took to ban this play was injuries. Right, They're like,
people are gonna get hurt. People are just gonna get hurt.
This is people are gonna hurt. No one's getting hurt. Yeah,
there's literally no data on it. So, like it's been
three or four years now, it's tough to make that argument. Now.
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Maybe long term there's gonna be some effects and we
won't know that until ten or fifteen years. So, like
that didn't work for them. That got derailed. You know,
Jason Kelsey gets flown into the owner's meeting and he's like,
look at me, Look at how smart I am. You
think I'm brain damaged? Do you think I'm hurt at all? No?
And I pushed everything. Wait, wait is this the right argument? No?
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But he makes this impassions. I'm healthy, everybody's healthy. Hurts
is healthy, Like, no one gets hurt. You can't dank
it away because of injury. So the league is like, dang,
they got us there. Okay, what if it's too hard
to officiate? Well, these officials are just anything, right, let's
put it on them now. I want to stress that
this is a conspiracy theory, so like, I don't think
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that this kind of thing is actually happening, but it's
not the most far fetched thing, right, And I bet
you in the owners meeting we'll see a main talking
point as far as banning it is concerned, is it's
tough to officiate it.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I like to see a stacked video of Mason McCormick's.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
False stahe who I think the Eagles are more egregious?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh it seemed to me that way too. What some
of those are pretty.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Sometimes Hurts false starts like I don't know if he does,
but Hurts will start to push forward before the snap.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And it's just crazy because you would think there'd be
a hyper emphasis on that particular play for false for.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
That particular team. Yes, exactly, So why isn't it happening?
Because they don't want it to happen. Chris. They want
it to be banned.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It's crazy because the conspiracy theory you think would be
they're gonna start just flagging the Eagles all the time,
and the Eagles get sick of it, and then maybe
I guess that would organically get rid of the play.
Maybe I don't know they were in the outrage in
Philadelphia because of it would would cause it. But you're
going like circle double round back door of conspiracy here,
and I kind of like it. I think I'm right too,
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I mean, or am I We'll see what come owners
meetings and it's getting banned. I don't know if it's
because of that, but it's getting banned. There's no way
that play lives it another year.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
All right. When we come back, we're gonna talk about
under and over achievers for the Steelers this season. He's
CHRISTI Damscam Tom Opsman. It's the Steelers puts on Stewers
Nation Radio, part of the Steelers Audio Network. Chris, would
you label yourself an under and overachiever in life?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Oh my, we're getting existential here.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Now come on, Chris damsk you tell me have you
reached all your goals or are you a failure?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I was, you know, during middle school, I bought a
Bart Simpson T shirt because I thought, what a weird
thing to go on, so I understood the the next
level human. This is the way I took it. Now,
maybe I'm fooling myself. As a twelve year old or whatever.
Middle school, I bought a Barton and the one I
picked out was the one that said Bart Simpson. This
is when the Simpsons just started. They were like the
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hottest thing underachiever, but it was misspelled like and then
dash achiever or achiever, and you got to Bart's like,
I'm proud of it, man, And I got taken in
the principal's office and the shirt was banned, and my
parents were upset with me, and they said, you do
not want to brand yourself under achiever, that that's a
that's like I was like, I was like, it's just
such a joke. It's a Jokeart Timpson. So forever that
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I've been very sensitive about labor. So I'm gonna say
I am the biggest overachiever in the world. I've made
myself out of nothing. I have no talent or anything,
and I just kind of did.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
All this christ We're both underachiever. I talking about sports.
We talk about sports for a living, King me. I
mean overachievers are the people that you know solve diseases
and them.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Saying not me, my principal and my parents and everything.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
That No, that shirt was an omen. That shirt was
a sign of things to come. I mean, come bro,
we talked about sports filter, How could you be more
of an underachieved as far as the grand scope of life?
What do we do?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I'm an engineering help drop. I quit pharmacy school and
here I am.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
You could have been an actual overachiever. You could have
had people with medical problem.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I'm clearly I am under it. Yes, you're taking me
to do it now? Yes, so now I'm gonna achiever? Yes, please.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Now let's label some under and overachievers. When it comes
to the Steelers this year, overachievers. This is a little
bit tougher to find. I think James Pierre has lately
kind of snuck onto the scene as a pretty big
overachiever out of this necessity. He has had to play
on the outside and he has been pretty good now.
Earlier in the year, I think Brandon Eckles was an
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overachiever and that got him more of an expanded role
and then he got cooked by Lad McConkey last week
in that expanded role. So uh oh, was less more
for Brandon Eckles. Was he just achieving? Was he not overachieving?
But it was a bad showing for him, but his
you know, bump into the slot and slays being spoiler
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alert before we get there, one of the underachievers this year.
You've seen an opportunity for Pierre and hey, he went
out there and took it in stride against the Chargers.
He will have another opportunity this week against the Bengals.
I don't think Samuel Junior will get a helmet yet,
he will soon. In fact, I predict by the Bears
game he will be on the field of Sante Samuel Jr.
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But I don't think that means James Pierre has to be,
you know, back on the Payno Mind list, back on
the just Special Teams list. Dude has been earning more
playing time on the actual defense, I think, and.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Generally speaking when he's played in spot duty. Over he's
played some, he's made some starts over his five seasons
with the Steelers, six seeds with the Steelers, now and
he's played every snap of some games an outside corner.
Generally speaking, I think he is a guy that you know,
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to make the analogies. He's the he's a good backup
quarterback and win you a game or two. I think
he's deployed or whatever, a spot starter in baseball, however
you want to put it. I think you can trust
him in small samples if you had to. I do
think I think that was legitimate. You heard Mike Tom
and he took in terms of whatever he's press conference is.
Sometimes he gives real stort, tosting or whatever answers and
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or just to flex the question. Sometimes he latches onto
him and he he gushed about James Pierre. Danny's is
a huge fan. I love Pee, I love JP. He
loves he loves Dames Pierre. If you ask about James Pierre.
So he's a likable guy in that room. He was
a despite being undrafted, and you know he had whatever
reason he things like that. He in school, he was
a high recruiting and coming out of a high school
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ended up at Florida Atlantic, so it kind of got dismissed.
Maybe that way is probably why he wasn't undrafted he'd
been went to Florida State or whatever and been a
long time. He probably have been drafted and I had
a higher pedigree in this league and things like that.
So I think he is capable of any any one
or two weeks. I don't know if you necessarily hope
he's the start of the rest of the season, And
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it might come down to that, depending on how what's
going on with Sleigh, for sure, both medically and in
terms of his play, and then in terms of how
available and how ready Samuel is to play. But and
now against the Bengals is an interesting, uh, of course matchup,
especially concerned what happened four weeks ago. But this is
not It's kind of like my analysis of the Bengals
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to start the season. I thought they'd be good because
I thought the defense would better because it couldn't be worse.
But the the the invert or what's going on right
now with the Steelers pass defense against the Bengals, it
has to be better because it really can't be worse
than it wasn't that game four weeks ago and on
a Thursday night in Cincinnati. So Pierre beginning that shot
and if they do limit the Bengals in some way,
and I think they're capable of doing that, then that'll
reflect well on him.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Another overachiever. I'm gonna look at Darnell Washington and I
know that in the past couple of weeks, as you
noted earlier in the show today, maybe some teams are
getting wise to his pass catching ability and starting to
take that away a little bit more, paid a little
bit more respect, and it's slowed down some. But I
still think he has had a season that you would
label as an overachievement. I think that there's always been
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kind of a curiosity when it comes to him in
the passing game and what he could do with the
goal line and stuff like that, but now you have
seen it for a couple of instances this year now
kind of come to fruition and that curiosity, you know,
turn into actual execution of it. And I think he's
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done a good job. You know, I think he's shown
you know, there isn't you know, just or there shouldn't
be just this kind of default mentality on me that
I'm a tackle and that you know, I'm going to
transition and I'm going to be, you know, made into
a left tackle one day, like, let me show you
what I can do pass catching wise too, let me
show you that I can be valuable in that aspect too,
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And he really has this year when he's gotten those opportunities.
So I'd label him as a bit of an overachiever.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, because I kind of you knew he had that,
and you know it's the speed he had and everything,
and he was kind of that late charging, kind of
sexy picked to me a first round pick, remember in
that draft leading up to it, like you had this
massive tight end who has no production at Georgia because
behind brock Bauers was kind of a win, which is
obviously true. Obviously what brock Bowers does as done in
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the NFL in terms of what type of he didn't
have any receiving numbers, but he had the and he
was just this intriguing prospect of his body size. And
I've brought up before how you could see how he
didn't get a becomfort because he comes in for these
meetings and he'd just be such a large man that
he kind of doesn't look like he walks like an
old man. But then you see him on the field,
he's still fast and limber and does all the things,
so they could see why he might have given pause
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to use a first round pick. Anyway, what I'm saying
is he has the pedigree and the talent to be that.
But then after a couple of seasons into the experiment
with him, you're like, Okay, well, here's what he is.
He's a you know, maybe for a player or two
here and there you can use them in the passing game,
and he's becoming better as a blocker, and that she's
gonna be. But then he came on so strong the
first what's six weeks of the season, and there was
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possessions they're going him and going him into the end
zone and Rogers seems to take an infinity to him,
and we see what he is, and yeah, he's there's
a couple of times we've discussed is either number one
tight end and I don't know now now back to
pat and we can probably over react to these things
on a weekly basis, but hey, we got that's what
we do, like you said, when we're underachievers and we
talk about sports, so we go back to the games.
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But he most definitely is a viable, you know, play
more than half the snaps NFL tight end, it's it's intrigued,
can do things some people can't do, and and uh yeah,
he's that. The era has been pointing up with him
in twenty twenty five for sure than what we thought
or what you know he was going into this season.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Any other overachievers that can come to mind, I really
have those too. I don't know if you have any
kicking around your head right now, but it's tough to
really find somebody that has gotten, you know, a lot
more out of what you expected from them this year.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I'm a
big Spencer Anderson guy's a seventh round pick.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's not a bad call.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I mean, he's obviously made himself part of the offense.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And I think he has given them a reason to
think we've got a left guard moving forward if we
don't want to bring back to see him all.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, So I think again, Exceven picks a lot of times.
I'll make the team. He made that he's been on
the team. It's a great and he's played and he's
been part of the offens every single game and made
a couple of starts.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Not too No, it's a great call. I think Spencer
Anderson's overachieved too, and now he finds himself a nice
role on this team currently and possibly moving forward. Now,
the underachievers, these are kind of the stars, right, I mean,
DK Metcalf comes to mind. I hate to say it,
but TJ. Watt comes to mind. As far as someone
who has kind of underachieved this season for the Steelers,
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even you know, someone like a Patrick Queen, I think
you could put into that underachiever category. But let's start
with the first two that I mentioned, one on the
offense and one on the defensive side of the ball,
and really supposed to be your two biggest playmakers, and
DK is at the top of the list I think
as far as underachievement is concerned, I mean, he has
had one game this year where he has gone over
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one hundred yards receiving. That's just not good enough for
somebody of his caliber. I don't care how much attention
he's being paid. He's got to put up more numbers
than that. And he had a nice streak of finding
the end zone seemingly every week early this season, but
now that's dried up, and these past two games have
been the worst two games as a Steeler for dk
Metcalf and there has to be more from someone making
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that much money and someone that has a pedigree like
he does. So I think it is more than fair.
And he'd probably tell you this too, that it has
been an underachievement of a season so far for him.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, and especially like you said, we could we were
excusing it or if he was gonna touch He had
what five touchdowns the first seven games of the season.
He had four in the first five games of the season,
and every game a couple like, for instance, the Seattle game.
The production wise is what now, that's way below, but
the Seattle in New England games he had three catches
for twenty yards three catch of thirty two yards, but
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he made a touchdown catch in each of them and
it was just one play. But especially considering years past,
particularly some of the red zone issues we've had seen
in this team and the lack of touchdown receptions, seeing
in this team that was like a breath of fresh air.
You see, Okay, you saw it for the first five weeks.
One of them was a long eightr touchdown of course
in Dublin with against the Vikings, but that having especially
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a quarterback of Rogers pedigree and caliber that would go
to him and trusted him in the end zone and
got that. So you were you could excuse the low catch,
low yards numbers. Now that's kind of drought up these
past two weeks, and you know we've seen enough drops
now at this point throughout the season sprinkled in there,
you know, a week after.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Week that that yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Let's face man, I mean the contract he signed that's
supposed to be dominant, you know, wide receiver. Might I
mean it's right in.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Or around the top five as far as you know
average annual value is concerned, and it's.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It's clearly he's clearly not performed to that level at all.
And he didn't have to be a top five production receiver.
And we know the Titans whatever, maybe don't expect that
overall in terms of catches or or yards or whatever.
But you know, I mean, what's he on a pace for?
He's on a pace for even if you give him
double of the nine. And I'm not gonna do the
math less than up, but I get you know, he
might sniff a thousand yards because he's on a pace for.
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He's at five oh two right now with eight games left.
Went through nine games, but five o two, I mean, yeah, yeah,
so he's gonna be under a thousand yards on a
pace and what he's on a pace for not even
sixty receptions.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
That's a huge problem. And the targets are just so
far down the list too, as far as he's like
forty eighth as far as targeted receivers are concerned.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, well, I like to say, and he has few. Now,
Tamar Chase is an outlier. It's unfair to compared him
to that, but he has fewer than half the targets
of Jamar Chase at this point. So that shows how
much that's the number one receiver you go to. And
I know they're behind. There's a lot of that's unfair
to say, but just illustrative that you know, through nine
games you're only targeting I mean, six targets a game.
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Didn't sound terrible, I guess, but you know, I just
that last game and that they're they're trailing most of
that game and at those catches. A couple of those
catches came again I want to say garbage time when
the fourth quarter when you're down by two or three scores, right,
so you know you're behind that game. It wasn't again
the Colts game. Maybe you say, well they were ahead
and they had short fields and okay, you know once
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in a while, but you know you're behind a game,
you need a big play from me, literally the highest
paid player in the offense, right, he's higher paid than
the quarterback, So you need that. Yeah, it's fair now,
it's fair now when the touchdowns have dried up in
more than one game in a row, you have too
of stack two in a row of that kind of production. Yeah,
it's not unfair at all to ask more, DK Metcalf.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Now, TJ. Watt has not been as much of an
underachiever as DK Metcalf has. TJ. Wall has affected some
games this year directly, kind of impacting the Colts game
specifically and kind of flipping that momentum on a dime
against Indianapolis, but it hasn't been to the volume that
you've been used to seeing out of TJ. Watt in
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years past. And it again, just like we were saying
with DK Metcalf, it's not production that equals the contract
that he signed and the money that he's making this year.
It's making a million dollars more than Miles Garrett. Miles
Garrett leads the league in sacks right now with eleven
for a very bad Cleveland team. Tj WA doesn't even
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lead his own team in sacks.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, and you you know you can is he he
does have half a sack more than High scho High
has missed how many games so far? So Sax per game?
Like you can make the case. He's been the third
most impactful pass rusher on the team.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Now since coming back these pissed past two weeks, Highsmith's
been the best ed dresser.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, and before probably the three weeks before that her
big Yeah, don't even know if he's been the best
pass rusher on the team now.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Now he helps those both of those guys.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yes, there's an effect there, Yes effect, Yes, the the
the assists, like we joked about with the Jack, I
want to go Gambell again, What do I do it?
Jack Sawyer?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
You just wish we had Jack?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Apparently I do. I'm it's just like my move. They
acquire him both and I'm really be stuck at some point. Yes,
the Jack Sawyer sack was like a direct result. Is
he even made light of himself, Sawyer himself that it
was watch. So yes, I get all that, but at
the same time, it's been talked about a lot, and
it's absolutely true. All the top guys are getting chipped.
You might be getting chipped more whatever. I don't know.
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You gotta I mean, if you're if you're the guy,
if you're the alpha guy in the league, if you're
a defensive player of your type, guy gets pace for
what ten sacks?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Let me let me throw something out there. Two things
out there. Actually, they're not moving him. We heard all
off season that they were going to start moving him,
even from t J Wattson's t J Watson's t J
watts Watt's mouth. That's tough for me. I don't know
why it was tough for me. Come out of his lips.
He said, I want to move more. I gotta move more.
You know, there should probably be more of that. And
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the team's like, yeah, we got to figure out a
way to make life easier on him than Fast forward
to now, and he has been the most stagnant ed
rusher in the NFL. He rushes from the same side
more than any ed rusher in the NFL. So they're
not moving him around, they're not helping him help himself,
and I think that's a problem. And then this week specifically,
I'd drop him back in coverage a couple of times.
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I'd do what the Chargers kind of did to Rogers,
to Joe Flacco. I'd kind of just drop back my
edd rushers, muddy up kind of the middle of the field,
short quick game stuff and kind of make him have
to double clutch a board on a play, maybe just
throw it because he thinks there's no way. Watch drop
him back in coverage, and then bang, I get a pick.
Do you remember the game they played against the Rams
a couple of years back in LA where they could
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not get home to Stafford. They just could not find
a way to get to Matt Stafford. There was a
great game planned by the Rams in McVeigh. They weren't
going to let the pass rush effect the game so
early in the second half, if not maybe the first
play this second half, Wat drops back in the coverage.
Stafford never expects it, throws a ball that I think
immediately goes no right when he leaves his hands, and
Watt picks it off.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
And he has very good He's able to do the skills.
His ball skills are under and in some ways, and
he has a pick this year already, it's the tip right,
and but in some ways I think that would sort
of it would alleviate maybe even his I want to
say his I'm confident. I don't know how to put
a confident like. You could tell he feels pressure to
produce more and he knows he has to. He's not dumb.
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He knows right, he knows he got his contract. He
knows he has to have more sacks than he is.
He knows it's kind of grading on him to a
point that he's not and he knows that people expect it,
and he understands that he's being criticized for and he's like, yeah,
you're right, I am not getting enough splash plays. I
know sacks are what he's known for, and sacks for
what he's kind of measured by. But getting a pick
six or getting a and you can't predict that, but
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putting him in the position to do it, you know, a
handful of time during the game, it very well could
have because he has good hands. Is betting on all
the dbats.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
No, absolutely, so I think that they can do that
this week. It'll help him get a going in the
splash department, and it'll be a good deterrent for that
quick passing game from the Cincinnati Bengals. We got a
football game tonight, and it's best to describe it as
a football game, So we'll talk about that next. It's
Tom Opperman and Chris Dampsky on the Steelers Blitz Steelers
Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers Audio Network. All Right,
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Week eleven kicks off tonight. Chris, it's a doozy poor
al again. Back to back weeks. Al Michaels getting these
crap games on Thursday Night Football. Tom Opperman and Chris
Dampski wrapping up today's edition of the Steelers Blitz. Patriots
Jets on Thursday Night Football. It's into England, right, yes,
So that really limits the chances of like football happening,
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you know what I mean, Like the NFL rearing its
ugly head, kind of like you did last week when
the Raiders just made the Broncos play a miserable football
game against them.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
And want two in a row. Top.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
They're hot. Jets are hot. They're winning too much. To
be quite honest with you, they need to be losing
so they can get a good draft pick. The number
one overall draft pick.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Because they're still good at drafting quarterbacks high top.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
They need well, they need as many shots Chris they
need to take. I would take a quarterback with like
every pick you have, and some of one of these
guys must hit, please.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Zach Wilson, you go through.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
It's awful. Yeah, But I don't think they have much
of a chance tonight either. I don't think that there's
gonna be that, you know, quote unquote weird NFL thing
happening where a division rival gives a good.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Five time games or ten to three. Now, so maybe
we'll see that. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Well, I think that's the thing going best in your favor.
If you're someone that's like, can you just give me
an entertaining football game and night, can we get the
Patriots on upset alert? Is that the Patriots will hurt themselves,
Is that the Patriots will be out of rhythm on
that short week. And that's kind of what happened to
the Broncos. It wasn't so much anything that the Raiders
did on Thursday night last week. It was just like
that offense for the Broncos is so bad, and then
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you give them a short week to have to prepare,
it's just not gonna look very good. So the Broncos
kind of, you know, stunted themselves in that game offensively. Patriots.
I think Drake May is a better quarterback than bo
nixt So I don't know if that's gonna be likely here,
but that's your path I think to an actual competitive
game is that the Patriots just aren't in sync. The
Patriots come out and have a bad one and then
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you know, you know, the Jets go into the locker
room and it's only like nine to three, they're like, okay,
you know what I mean, Like they're like, what, what's
why not let's beat the Patriots today? What we could
do that huh thirty minutes to beat the Patriots. That'd
be fun to go into the weekend with that win.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Like, I don't know, if we talk about how much
do we believe in the Patriots is a Super Bowl
contender this year to go out of the AFC, And
part of me wants to say, oh, I don't if
there's a correlation, I'd say a part of me wants
to say, if you know, go in there and just
stomp the life out of the inferior opponent that's your
division rival, and you can do that. And they've been.
They've blown out the Panthers, They've blown out the Titans,
they've blown out the Browns this year. They've played a
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lot of bad teams this year because then I you know,
the last play schedule. Yeah, and then you got the
Saints and the other bad team they played. They played
the Saints and the and the Dolphins the first time,
the Dolphins again, they got the Dolphins again, the Jets twice,
and the Bengals and the Giants. It's like, jeez, man,
they got this. I told you. They're winning twelve to
thirteen games. It's wow, how bad they're scheduled. But they've
had this history of this season of blowing out the
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bad teams. And I think, like Vrabel his first game
as a Patriots coach against the Jets, who I'm sure
that Belichick instilled in that when he was a player,
because that he hated the Jets because he did the
whole thing leaving them and all that stuff. So I'm
sure there's something there that that he kind of wants
to stick it to him too here, So I don't know.
I mean, it's crazy though, the Jets. They turned down
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on their team and they start winning. I don't know,
it's wild, but.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
They start winning against the Browns. They started playing against it.
I saw somebody had to take No. One out tanks
the Cleveland Browns, No One. Okay, Okay, New York Jets, the.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Goats, like the goat of tanking.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
You think you're gonna lel thirteen to ten? Wise, guys, Okay,
Actually that wasn't the score of the Browns game. That
was twenty seven to twenty. It was actually kind of
a game like they went back and forth a little
bit in that one. The Patriots, again, they're kind of
forcing you to believe in them. The more they just
keep stacking not only wins because they're playing poor teams,
but wins in impressive fashion against poor teams, you know,
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wins blowing out poor teams. So the Patriots tonight, they're
a twelve and a half point favorite. That in its
own right is a sign of respect, right when you
start to become one of those teams that like a
bad team comes to town and they're like, yep, you're
a double digit favorite. So getting some respect from Vegas there.
They cover that spread. That's a really strong statement even
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though you're playing a two and seven team to have,
you know, your team look that good that crisp on
such a short week. So there's still an opportunity for
the Patriots here to kind of, you know, raise some
eyebrows by going out there and just obliterating the Jets.
But at the same time, like, I don't think this
team is a juggernaut, right, Like I don't think that
this Patriots team is just like one of the all
time great football teams. Ever, so a tester that shouldn't
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be is going to rear its ugly head against them
sooner or later. A team that is far more deficient
than them on this guard bridge schedule that they have
is gonna give them some pushback, is gonna give them
a tough test. Maybe that's tonight against the Jets. Maybe
I'm just trying to talk that into existence because there's
really nothing else to watch tonight.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, well, I mean this is another prime time the
showcase for Drake may too. You wonder what that helps
his MVP, cause, yeah, whatever you think of him and
what And I think obviously with that saying that the quarterback,
especially when you have a high end quarterback, that people
are saying and starting to believe and with good reason
that they could be a you know, ascend to that
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superstar level. To see him again take care of business
against a bad team if he goes out and on
a short week and puts up big numbers both as
MVP candasy and also just kind of what it's tough
because it is that, like I said, blown out bad teams,
I don't think necessarily equates to being good in January,
in the in the playoffs per se. Or there's not
a direct correlation there, but but to see that and
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if you you more and more start stacking Drake May
dominant passing performances, and then you start to believe more
and more maybe these guys can, especially if you know
the Chiefs keep middlaying and the Bills definitely keep midling,
and you know, the Ravens still got to make sure
they get as much as we believe in the Ravens.
They're still out of the playoffs, need to start stacking
more wins and they probably will, but uh, but you know,
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you believe more to watch Drake May again for a
whole game, even again it's a bad team. If he
does something, you keep buying to the Patriots more going forward.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
The Nor'easter Patriot jerseys that they're wearing tonight are pretty cool.
At least they look cool on social media. I'm excited
to see if they pop on the television screen. One
lesson not only the MVP thing though he's not the
favorite to win MVP really yes, But I think that's
because Boston is losing their minds right now, and Vegas
is like, let's get some Boston money in here, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Like, how yah's there?
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Just like over correct. They'll bet on him a lot
because they're like, oh, our guy, we're back, we got
the new Brady, Like he's gonna win MVP. So I
think that there's a little bit of an element there
that they're sucking in a lot of Boston money because
they're just so high on him right now. I mean,
it's insufferable. Sometimes I open my feet and it's just
like I get it, Drake May is good, but he's
not that great yet, and you're not winning the super
Bowl this year, Okay, You're just not so stop talking
(45:00):
like that. But I think that's why he's the betting
favorite right now because Matthew Stafford is the m v P.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, Stafford for sure. I mean I still think. I mean,
if the Ravens do what.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
We say they're Lamar is going to get in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
So I don't know what his odds are now, but
I feel like you could buy low and I'd like.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
A little sprinkle on Lamar.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
You're right, yeah, because I mean he missed three games.
Three games isn't proved. I mean, it's another game. He
has an injury history, then it's injury history.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
What if what if they go ten and seven, eleven
and six and he has the games that he's had
so far this year's healthy, and they have a home
game and win the division.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, he leaves the league and QB rating, you know,
you know, whatever whatever it is gets the Ravens at
that point. The voting will happen when they win nine
out of ten or whatever it is, nine and eleven
down the stretch and they're the hot team. Yeah, I
would probably again, look, not looking the odds in front
of me. Sneaky for sure. If he stays healthy and
the Ravens do what we think they do. But Stafford
is before Stafford's the favorite. Maybe is the favorite, seems
(45:50):
a little a little over over.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Stafford's the favorite in my mind, I mean the literal favorite.
That's Drake May. All right, I'll do it for us today,
Chris and I will be back tomorrow for a Fry
Day edition of the Steelers' Blitz, Getting you ready for
Steelers and Bengals Round two at Akroshur Stadium. For Chris Dampski,
I'm Tom Opperman. Thanks a much for giving us a
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