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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Stop
Drinking and Start Living the
Feminine Way.
I'm your hostess, mary Wagstaff, holistic Alcohol Coach and
Feminine Embodiment Guide, hereto help you effortlessly release
alcohol by reclaiming yourfeminine essence.
Sobriety isn't just aboutquitting drinking.
It's about removing thedistortions that keep you
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disconnected, overwhelmed andstuck in cycles of numbing.
Each week I'll share powerfultools, new perspectives that
transform, and deeply relatablestories to help you step into
the power, pleasure and purposethat it is to be a woman.
This is your next evolution ofawakened empowerment.
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Welcome to the feminine way.
Welcome back to the show.
My beautiful listeners.
I'm so glad you're here.
It is such a thrill, such anhonor to do this work because it
continues to evolve and in mylife in this way that I didn't
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even really realize it.
So it seems so crazy to lookback.
I'm like you know, like earlysobriety is, you know, is long
gone for me, and of course, mycoaching practice is, is and
always has been and always willbe such a joy, um to connect
with women and be, you know,emotional support to navigate
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the mind, to navigate goals andeverything like that, but to
really see the impact ofsobriety play out, not just in
my authentic expression but inlight of it, right, I've always
said this, but in light of it,right, I've always said this
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that I don't really know.
I mean, there's just no way forme to know if I would be doing
what I'm doing had I not had togo through addiction.
And then sobriety, like if Ihad just never drank.
Right, if I never like, whowould I be?
And the process of sobriety inwhich I teach empowered sobriety
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, um is really the game changerfor women who have goals, women
who really want to take personalresponsibility for their lives,
want to be in their fullestauthentic expression, want to
optimize their energy and theiroutput, because they're already
putting in so much effort fortheir health and their wellness,
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and they're you know, they'rethey're taking responsibility
for their life and they'vecreated really beautiful lives
for themselves, but they're justnot enjoying it right now
because alcohol is not working.
It's not an alignment anymore,Um, so it's the skills, though,
that you have to learn, and theexamination that you have to do
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to remove alcohol and to bewilling to expand your threshold
for discomfort or expand yourthreshold for resistance, right,
and it's not like we just holdthe resistance and it feels
terrible, like no, you let itdrive you, you let it move
through you or you're like, oh,I want to change because I don't
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want to feel this anymore, butit's not.
But you know the solution isn'tgoing to be alcohol and then it
goes away.
But when you set out to do newthings, you also you know that
you're going to go through thatagain as well, Like every time
we do something and it's sointeresting and maybe, you know,
I don't really remember as akid and maybe I just I did.
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I I was, I was a quitter, youknow, and I was allowed to quit.
So consistency and commitmentwas something that I really had
to work on as an adult.
But I don't know how, if I wasrisk averse I don't believe that
I was.
You know, when we're younger,we don't know, like the
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consequences.
We don't have the emotionalbaggage of the embarrassment of
failure or the perceivedembarrassment of failure, like
what if it doesn't work?
But what sobriety has taught meand I believe it does for my
clients as well is the regret ofnot knowing what's possible is
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more painful than the failure,because then it's like you fail
great.
So what?
Then you have more information.
Okay, well, I didn't drink forthese many days and this is what
worked.
But I did drink this time.
So let's examine it and see whythat didn't work.
And you can't do that whenyou're just like doing it on
your own.
So you're like, oh, forgetabout that, move on.
Starting over right, you'realways starting over Like I just
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think, don't start over, itdoesn't even make sense.
Just keep going and gatheringmore information and be willing
to never give up.
Be willing to see it through,and of course, there's varying
levels of addiction.
I get it.
Other people's perspectivesabout your drinking is something
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that I find, and when I talkedabout the boredom episode, once
it's examined, is not actuallywhat it appears to be at first.
It's a story that you've beentelling yourself for a really
long time, which most people,and with full disclosure.
This was never a problem that Ihad.
I didn't care what peoplethought about me not drinking.
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Now, sometimes I in as an adultand running other different
things and having conversations.
Sometimes I even still I'm like, oh, do I talk?
You know, talk about like I wasat.
I had the.
I had a group of women at thefarm for this like private event
kind of, and I was invitingthem to ladies night and one of
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the ladies was like oh, like, doyou do wine?
And I actually wasn't.
I was like, no, we can't, wedon't, you know, we don't do
alcohol here.
And she kind of inferred thatit was because of you know, like
permitting and stuff like that.
But it wasn't.
And I said no, we are analcohol free property.
We really want to invite peopleto connect in their authentic
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expression, and I think part ofme, you know maybe, would have
been like oh, am I going to hurther feelings?
And I was like that's just mytruth, like she can decide
whatever her truth is too, youknow.
So we'll see if she comes back.
But yeah, so the the what otherpeople's opinions are what?
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The basic thing that I want tosay about this is if you want to
do anything in life, don't getadvice from people that aren't
doing it Right.
So oftentimes I'll I hear thisa lot from women and I don't
know if it's because men have adifferent tolerance or a
different threshold, or they'refull of shit.
I don't know if it's becausemen have a different tolerance
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or a different threshold orthey're full of shit, I don't
even know.
But it's like well, can't youjust cut back.
Why can't you just drink less,can't you just have one?
And then these women are like,but I can't, I can't do that, I
can't just have one right.
And I'm like it's not fuckingabout that, it is not even about
that, of course.
You can just have one.
You absolutely can just haveone.
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You, my sweet listener, canjust have one.
What happens after one?
You feel like shit.
You don't just want one, youdon't want one.
You want to not feel thatbecause you just zapped all of
the energy.
You felt how excited you wereto have that drink and now you
feel down Right.
So whether men don't have thatexperience, or some of them, or
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you know, there it's I'm notjust talking about male
counterparts that I work with alot of different people, um, but
I do hear this coming from men,and so it's like it's not about
that.
A, b, you don't need tounderstand and see, why am I
getting advice from you whenyou're drinking and instead of
supporting me, you're telling meto have one right, and we can
go into that.
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It's like it's their ownprojection about themselves,
like anyone, anytime anyone isquestioning your drinking, they
are projecting their ownbehavior on you.
And if they don't drink, thenthey won't care, right.
So the bottom line with otherpeople's perspectives about your
drinking is A one you have tounderstand for yourself why it
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is that you want what you want,why alcohol is no longer working
for you, right, and it has tocome from the truth.
And it could be I can't handleit.
But it's not that you can'thandle drinking.
And some of you might be saying, like Mary, for real I can't.
I always overdo it, right, Ialways go overboard.
I guarantee you that's not true.
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I guarantee you there are timeswhere you have one or two
drinks, right, and that might befine.
You can't handle alcoholbecause your body, the wisdom of
your body, doesn't want it.
It's not.
You can't handle it because youcan't handle it in your life,
because it's not serving you,right.
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So finding the real reason, thereal and there's probably
multiple reasons, but like itdoesn't work in my body anymore,
it makes me feel like shit,right, and I don't ever talk
about the poisonous effects ofalcohol and why we give alcohol
a pass when it's.
There's, no, there's literallynot one benefit from alcohol.
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Not one, except for you know,except to like, deal with your
life Right, and that's justmindset, work and choice and
decision.
Like, why are you staying in ashitty life that you don't like?
You either have to A changeperspective or B get out of
there.
So, um, that is, that's what'shappening.
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It's, it doesn't make me feelgood.
That's the only thing you needto know.
It doesn't make me feel goodand it's the whole picture,
right.
We can't be like, ah, the cake.
Like it makes me gain weight,like the cake makes me gain
weight.
I mean, that's just the impactof it, right?
So it's the whole kit andcaboodle.
You have to know, like I'm noteating the cake because I don't
want to gain weight, I'm notgoing to eat the cake.
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Same with the alcohol I don'twant to drink the alcohol
because in the end it doesn'tmake me feel good and it
probably doesn't make you feelgood very shortly after you
actually have the drink.
And then two, why would you geta perspective?
This is just like back to likea fitness example you wouldn't
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take fitness advice from someonewho was out of shape for
someone you know you wouldn'thave, you wouldn't want.
And not to say that there's notlike coaches out there that say
, train athletes that aren'tOlympic athletes themselves
Cause I know that that exists.
But you want people to have hadthe embodied experience for the
most part, right, you wouldn'ttake money advice or investing
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advice from someone who's broke.
You wouldn't do that.
And if you do, it's not goingto be the right advice.
It's going to be the wrongadvice.
So you don't want to get aperspective from someone about
drinking who's a drinker.
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And the reason people do isbecause they want to let
themselves off the hook.
They want to feel better abouttheir state and to feel
validated.
Right, like that they're notwrong or they're not broken.
But that's what you have to dofor you.
So my suggestion and this is whypeople go to meetings and go to
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AA so they're in a community ofpeople who have the same
experience, right, but you'rehere listening to me in a
community of people who have thesame experience, right, but
you're here listening to me.
I coach people one-on-one, um,but I'm telling you like this is
the experience is that it isvery similar throughout.
There are not very many.
Everyone has their own story,but as far as variations, so if
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you're, you know if you'resignificant other, if you're a
friend group, or if you're asignificant other if you're a
friend group, your thought is noone else needs to understand
but me, because alcohol doesn'tmake me feel good anymore.
It's not an alignment withwhere I want to go and also I'm
not taking advice from thepeople that are doing the thing
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that I don't want to be doingthat don't have the result that
I have Right now.
It is very, it is very possiblethat you would come across
someone that identifies as analcoholic and they would look at
you and say you don't have aproblem, right, because there is
been such an indoctrination ofshame and you know a mental
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disorder or a disease thatpeople have.
And now I'm not saying likethose, those, those grooves in
the brain are deep right andthey do create somewhat of a
disorder.
It's.
It's like when we go over thesame thought again and again and
again and the brain just goesback there.
It is more challenging to getout of.
I will absolutely 100% admitthat.
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But it has to be for you.
It doesn't matter how much youdrink, how often you drink, how
wasted you get, how wasted youdon't get.
You're here listening to thisright now because you don't like
the results that alcohol isgiving you, and it doesn't
matter what anyone else thinks,and especially doesn't matter
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from the people that don'talready have the result that you
want.
And here's a caveat there is noway for you to know.
So do not put your thoughtsinto other people's heads, right
?
I hear this all the time, evenwith your partner.
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Right, that person might bethinking that, but they don't
like it either.
And there's no way for you toknow, even if they tell you up
and down.
I've been lied to.
I don't know about you.
Or you think, like Susie, shejust has one drink.
Susie, because I've worked withpeople like this and I've done
this probably had a bottle ofwine before she came to that
meeting, or she's going to gohome and have a bottle of wine.
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Do not compare yourself to otherpeople.
All you know in my body, thisis how I feel.
So you can Google search allyou want.
Am I an alcoholic?
How much alcohol is too much?
Right?
You can find any information inthis wild world.
Just ask chat GPT.
Chat GPT will validate you.
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So I just asked chat GPT andactually I'm very surprised by
this answer.
I'm going to read it to you andleave you with this, because
it's actually pretty powerful,and it's probably because Chachi
Pitti knows my brand.
Oh gosh, I asked.
I drink every day.
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Do I need help or am I okay?
Thanks for being real.
This is a powerful question.
Whether or not you need helpdepends on how often you drink
and more on how it's affectingyou.
Oh, my gosh, chat GPT knows meA few questions to reflect on.
Do you feel like alcohol iscontrolling you more than you
were controlling it?
I'm not going to read all thequestions.
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Even if you're functioning wellon the outside, daily, drinking
can take a toll on your energy,mood, hormones, especially in
perimenopause, relationships andself-trust Cause.
We've been talking aboutperimenopause.
You don't need to hit a rockbottom to explore what life
looks like without alcohol.
You're not broken.
You don't have to labelyourself, but if part of you is
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wondering if you're okay, thatpart deserves your attention.
Support doesn't mean somethingis wrong with you.
It means you're ready forsomething better.
Girl, if you want to talk moreor explore this without pressure
, I'm here.
Would you like a free emotionalsupport session, or can I send
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you a guide to help calm yoururges more clearly?
Okay, so clearly it's talkingto you.
I don't offer free emotionalsupport sessions, but I offer
free consultations for mycoaching program, but I do offer
one-on-one emotional supportsessions, which is just a
one-off session in 75 minutes,and it's an opportunity to, you
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know, kind of get over one ofthose humps where I just feel
like no one understands and it'slike, oh my gosh, I've been
crying my face off and I justdon't know what direction to go
in.
And those are the moments wherewe really need to find relief
so that we can find the claritythat we need to take the next
most informed and empowered step.
Okay, I thought that that wasreally interesting, so I wanted
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to share with you.
I hope you have a wonderful day, decide for yourself what that
something better is.
Okay, I love you and I'll talkto you soon.
The days of white knuckling yourway through an urge are over.
No more distracting yourself,no more avoiding alcohol, no
more resisting, and I am notexaggerating when I say that
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doing this one thing for fiveminutes will change not only how
successful you are in drinkingless, but how much you will love
your alcohol-free life.
You are going to feel so good.
So come on over to my websiteor follow the link right here in
the show notes to grab the freeurge guide that gives you the
exact cheat codes to use to findrelief without a drink.
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And the best part is nodeprivation, no missing out
required.
I'll see you over.