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August 12, 2025 43 mins

In this wisdom-filled and practical conversation, host Ava Heinbach sits down with her longtime mentor and “second mom” LeeAnn Shaw to unpack what it means to have a growth mindset. From personal stories and life’s unexpected valleys to strategies for building resilience, Ava and LeeAnn explore what it means to pivot, move forward, grow, and create a purposeful life. They talk about the difference between trying and training, the importance of flexibility (yes, even being a “palm tree”), and how to break free from overthinking loops. Whether you’re in a peak or a valley, this episode offers encouragement and actionable steps to help you keep growing—no matter what life throws your way.


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