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November 11, 2025 66 mins

This week we sat down with Antonin Bonnet from Pierre and Antonin in the south of France for an eye opening episode. Antonin is a natural winemaker and he pulled back the curtain on how he and his partner Pierre think about and make wine without all the scary stuff people usually associate with natural bottles.


We got into his wild start in New York, how he and Pierre built their winery from scratch, and why resistant grape varieties might be the future. Colin finally owned his natural wine skepticism, Joel showed up mid-diaper-chaos, and Antonin kept dropping gems while pouring wines that shook up our expectations.


If you’ve ever been curious about natural wine or flat out opposed to it, this episode might flip your perspective. Grab a glass, hit play, and get ready to think about wine in a new way.


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00:00 Intro and Welcome
01:02 Meet Antonin Bonnet from Pierre and Antonin
02:42 First Natural Wine on the Show
04:10 How Antonin and Pierre Met in NYC
07:15 Discovering Natural Wine in Brooklyn
09:55 Colin Admits His Natural Wine Fears
11:40 Avoiding Funk and Flaws in Natural Wine
14:15 Fermentation, Acidity, and Staying Clean
17:40 Resistant Grapes Explained
21:30 Sustainable Viticulture and No Chemicals
24:10 Packaging and Carbon Footprint Choices
27:05 Why Take the Hard Road in Winemaking
30:20 Making Natural Wine That Still Tastes Great
34:05 Growing a Winery From Scratch
37:20 Selling Wine in the US Market
40:30 Tradition vs Innovation
44:00 Lessons from Early Vintages
46:55 Future of Resistant Varieties
49:20 Final Thoughts and Takeaways
52:35 Sips, Laughs, and Goodbyes

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