101 BEST OF 2020!

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Eric (00:10):
Somewhere between

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science and superstition to show you

Kelly (00:28):
Strange Aeons Welcome to Strange Aeons radio that's Eric
over there.

Eric (00:34):
Hello.

Kelly (00:34):
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Vanessa (00:42):
Yeah This goes are we hot? Are we not?

Kelly (00:45):
Oh boy.

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Oh, that was a bad show this

Vanessa (00:49):
a bad was that a website for a while to

Eric (00:52):
show it might have been on MTV or being on or something
wayspeople would start out and Hot
or Not in this series of judges

Unknown (01:00):
like wow,

Vanessa (01:00):
we were a shallower people at one point or at least
more obvious.

Kelly (01:06):
We're still pretty shallow.

Eric (01:08):
We just hide it better now.

Kelly (01:11):
I just want to let all the listeners know that this is
our Gala. 100 and first episode.

Vanessa (01:18):
Glad you got that out up front. It's really good to
let them know the context ofmaybe why we're doing our shows.

Kelly (01:24):
I did like Danny Williford saying the surprise
twist ending.

Unknown (01:32):
Oh my gosh.

Eric (01:35):
Can't be clean. I guess.
We could

Vanessa (01:37):
have re recorded the beginning. But you know, gotta
keep it real.

Kelly (01:42):
That's right. Hey, also Happy New Year, guys.

Vanessa (01:45):
Yeah, 2021

Kelly (01:48):
we're living in the future.

Vanessa (01:50):
This could be a year that doesn't suck. Maybe I'm
just gonna knock on all thewood. It's fine. Everything's
great. All right. Keep

Kelly (01:57):
in mind that Mad Max occurs in the year 2020. So

Vanessa (02:02):
here we go. Really goes through something in that film,
too. You know, that's

Eric (02:05):
true. This is the first one then the the first Mad Max.

Kelly (02:09):
I believe it's the first Mad Max. Yeah. And so it's kind
of tracking correctly.

Eric (02:16):
Especially if you live in Australia.

Vanessa (02:18):
Geez, I thought they were doing really well right
now. Comparatively,

Eric (02:23):
maybe not on fire this January. That's

Vanessa (02:25):
true. Yes. They're not currently on fire. And they
handled the pandemic. Well, fromwhat I understand or was that
New Zealand?

Eric (02:34):
I think it was Australia, Australia. New Zealand's the one
that mailed it. Oh, yeah. Hey,guys,

Kelly (02:40):
big news was that Cobra Kai season three dropped. True.
True. I watched every singleepisode. Did you? Oh, yeah.
Loved it. Oh, do you mean howwas it?

Vanessa (02:49):
I don't know. I haven't watched any Cobra.

Eric (02:52):
I keep seeing it advertised. But then don't watch
it because I have too manythings to watch. three episodes
in. start watching going. LikeOkay, so see where this has
gone? so far. It's kind of like,well, right. But I think it
feels like it's all building tosomething very friggin cool.

Kelly (03:09):
Yeah, for the most part.
I mean, it's let's not kidourselves. It's very soap opera.
You know, it's just a bunch ofrelationships with karate thrown
in the middle. I will say thisat the end of the last episode,
I did not realize it was thelast episode and I was like next
episode. They were like, No,thank you. bother fine.

Eric (03:31):
I did enjoy the almost comedic tongue in cheek news
reports of the karate gangs ofkarate died out the ad goes from
accuracy to that.

Kelly (03:44):
I'm here at a school where what can only be described
as an all out karate Riotoccurred.

Unknown (03:50):
karate riot.

Kelly (03:52):
I loved it. And I hate them. They have to wait a year
now for

Eric (03:56):
that's actually the one thing that bugs me most about
releasing all the episodes atonce. And I do kind of like the
taking two months or whatever towatch that new series. By the
time it's done. It's it's eightmonths to the next one as
opposed to a frigging year.
Yeah, I

Kelly (04:13):
agree. On the other hand, we never know what's going to
happen in any given moment. Wecould all be dead tomorrow.
super glad that I got to finish.

Eric (04:24):
It would suck to have missed the end of the
Mandalorian because of that.

Vanessa (04:27):
That's so true. That is so true. Well, they also put out
the newest season of Sabrina.

Kelly (04:35):
Yes, yes. Yeah,

Vanessa (04:37):
I've only seen a tiny fraction of it because I had to
finish the previous season asSabrina which I just had such a
hard time getting through but

Kelly (04:45):
remember you not loving the show?

Vanessa (04:46):
No, no.

Eric (04:47):
I mean, you're watching and i thought you like we're
just I'm done.

Vanessa (04:51):
Hey, man, I'm already committed. So I might as well
just keep going until untilfurther notice. But yeah, I just
I get so fresh. straightedthey're like, they're like, Oh,
this is such a crazy dark show,except she's just Nancy Drew so
it's fine. It's just keepwaiting for her to like be like
really, really evil and theykeep tempting it. They're like

(05:13):
now she's the queen of hell. Nowshe's split into two. Like, at
what point is any of her goingto be evil?

Eric (05:21):
I think you're listening to the wrong sources, I guess
cuz I don't remember anybodygoing. This is really dark. More
like this is

Kelly (05:30):
dark, but everybody in it is being silly and fun, right?
situations or dark cast yourmind way back when we had this
argument. And it was based onthe fact that the comic book is
very so dark.

Vanessa (05:44):
I know. And I think I can't get that is a big problem
for me. But I did genuinelyhear, like reviews that were
like, it's so crazy dark, huh?
So I don't know. I'm gonna haveto pull up. I'm saying this with
no reference points. So it couldbe fake news. 2021. But I have
no doubt the people that live ona steady diet of hallmark movies

(06:04):
and Avengers being too violent.
I

Eric (06:09):
thought it was really really dark.

Vanessa (06:11):
Yes,

Eric (06:12):
yeah, the world we're coming from generally is gonna
have a problem of it being theother side is really really
light. She like sauteed childrenin a panel that wasn't so bad.

Vanessa (06:24):
This year, I have been like immersing myself in some
pretty dark content, although itwill save for 2021 in general.
I'm pretty stoked. I just wentthrough various articles about
everything that's coming out forAvengers and for Star Wars, and
just tried to wrap my headaround either of them so much so

(06:45):
much content, so I'm stoked.

Kelly (06:49):
Yeah, well, um, what was I gonna say about Sabrina? Well,
let's keep in mind it is stillaimed at you know,

Eric (06:56):
TVs? I

Kelly (06:57):
think so. It's it's pretty dark for that. I do. I do
enjoy. I'm about halfway throughthis last season. And it is the
most overtly lovecraftian of theseasons for sure. Oh, does

Eric (07:08):
love crafty and it's a lot more like creature that week or
something.

Kelly (07:12):
It is it is a monster of the week show this time, but I
am okay with it. Especially theyhave one of the big evils that
shows up is the weird, which isclearly an acolyte of Cthulhu
and I like that a lot.

Vanessa (07:27):
That is fun. I mean, I did enjoy the season finale
where like the green takes overfor season three. I think that
was pretty neat. That had likesome really interesting like if
this one particular entity takesover it can be so bad just
imagine if any of them takeover.
Yeah. But yeah, that's that'sdefinitely something I'll look
forward to as I rushed my waythrough this series, I'm sure.

(07:49):
Like, got halfway through thefirst episode and was like, I'm
just gonna pause.

Kelly (07:55):
Wow,

Vanessa (07:57):
I'll come back to it.

Kelly (07:58):
I just see anything that you want to talk about Eric.

Eric (08:03):
I was still doing the 2020 deep dive. I mean, I did watch.
What was it perfect. trip orsome shit like that, which
Steve's on and the guy fromjustified, Timothy olifant.

Kelly (08:19):
And this is the one about the LSD or something like that.
No, they

Eric (08:23):
go on a honeymoon in in Hawaii. And it's a it's like,
ooh, which two people are thekillers that were recently seen
in such and such a place kind ofmovie directed by the guy did
pitch black and a few otherthings. So I'm reading all that
going. This should be reallygood. And it's really okay.

Kelly (08:48):
That's almost worse.

Eric (08:50):
Yeah, than bad. Especially when you've got all the font and
Steve's on all those guys whojust do good stuff, even when
they're in a silly shit perfectgetaway. And what's your name of
kills all the Resident Evilzombies? The lady in it?

Kelly (09:08):
Is that Mia? Mia?
Somebody Oh,

Eric (09:14):
famous model who turned Roma Joe

Unknown (09:18):
Joe village

Vanessa (09:19):
thank you

Eric (09:22):
that's a pretty damn good cast pretty solid director and,
and he's written decent becausehe I think he wrote pitch black
as well and like, oh, should befine. And then it's fine. It's
just, it's fine.

Kelly (09:33):
Well with Neela and Timothy at least you get some
fine looking specimens ofhumanity to look after. And

Eric (09:39):
apparently Steve decided he needed to jack him. He's like
I'm gonna be working oppositeTimothy Oliver not so he is
before. Jesus, his arms gothuge.

Kelly (09:49):
Everybody wearing bathing suits, I imagine for at various
times. Yes. Okay, well, so we'regonna jump into this episode's
topic. topic and we're going todo it a little differently
because we are talking aboutour, our top five films each for
2020. And then after we get donewith that, we'll jump into our

(10:13):
runner ups or other films thatwe liked. We just didn't want to
do those things first, and thenend with our topic because we
might nobody knows what we havepicked it for our top.

Vanessa (10:23):
That's true. I'm so curious what you guys have
chosen?

Kelly (10:26):
I imagine there will be some crossover.

Vanessa (10:29):
No, no, we have such different tastes.

Kelly (10:33):
The Phineas and Ferb stuff didn't make it.

Vanessa (10:37):
Hey, that was like a topic. It's not I don't think
they even make that showanymore. I think it got canceled
like five years ago. Okay.

Unknown (10:47):
Wow. Okay, that's everything. I

Vanessa (10:49):
want you to know that I have other tastes to

Unknown (10:54):
think we figured that out.

Kelly (10:55):
Yeah. Well, Eric, you want to start us off with Sure.
My number five number five.
Casey came in here.

Eric (11:06):
Ah, myself horribly on that one deny. Anyways, not that
Anybody? Anybody anyways, Goddammit start up dumb shit get
duped. Oh, number five slot andtoday not on my list at all.

Kelly (11:21):
I don't know if I even saw that. I

Eric (11:23):
did not I did mention it.
I wanted to pass the one of ourpodcasts before after I saw it.
It's the one with the bunch ofkids in Ireland who who get in
trouble and have to go on asurvival retreat. That's right.
by local people who callthemselves the monarchy of the
area. Right,

Vanessa (11:40):
right. I you know what I do remember that popping up on
a couple of Best of 2020 lists?
Um, Where's it? Where's it? Youcan catch it is on Amazon? Yeah,
I

Eric (11:49):
think it's Amazon. I don't think it's shutters probably
Amazon or Hulu. Anyways, butit's Yeah, it did all right at
765 from the Rotten Tomatocritics and crowd. So it did
fine. But I, I here's how I putmy list together. I went through
my letterbox reviews and wrotedown all the ones that like,

(12:12):
even if the review might havebeen like something was a three
star and somebody gave four starif I remembered that three star
better. Like you know I, Iobviously enjoyed this movie
more. And hold all are the onesthat really stuck with me and
then just started whittlingdown. So I was I honestly I'm a
little surprised at some of thestuff. And this was one that I

(12:35):
knew I really liked. And I'm notsurprised it ended up because
it's so much fun to watch.

Kelly (12:41):
What was the what was the plot of the film, again,

Eric (12:46):
a bunch of kids in trouble kind of a Scared Straight sort
of thing, except they're goingto go out into the woods, the
wilderness of Ireland, which isnot the same as going to the
wilderness of the Northwest.
They had to get from point A topoint B meet up with their
teacher or whatever he's called,and then take another Trek.

Kelly (13:06):
But there's something that happens.

Eric (13:08):
Yeah, there's a group of people that I don't know if they
own the land, or squatters, butcalled themselves the monarchy
of the land, and they're goingto they look at these kids as
invaders, make sure they scarethem off from their area or kill
them for being on their landillegally.

Vanessa (13:27):
That's hilarious. So I know in British culture, there's
this really funny thing where inAmerica we have like the Boy
Scouts, right? And in there,they have something called
something guides or somethinganyway. And instead of like
going out in the wilderness, andlike learning to like start a
fire or whatever, they do theselike long walks, and like

(13:48):
countryside walks, and there arethese trails that go up and down
the entire country. But andlegally at least in England, you
have to be able to go throughland because it's all
technically owned by the queenor something. So you're supposed
to be able to track through farmyards and stuff, but yeah,
people get really pissy about ittoo, because they're like, I'm a
millionaire. By property, youfilthy walkers.

Kelly (14:14):
peasants.

Eric (14:15):
That's right, exactly. So that was that's my number five.

Kelly (14:18):
I'm putting that on my list if it made your number
five.

Vanessa (14:20):
Yeah, definitely. So my number five This was such a
struggle trying to figure outwhat to make it on that bottom
slot of the list just becauseyeah, there were like so many
that kind of affect you in adifferent way but equally so. So
when number five up until abouttwo minutes ago, I was still

(14:41):
debating it so but I'm gonna I'mgonna go with it. Bill and Ted
face the music. Oh, wow. Nice.
Nice. Yeah. So either of youhave this on your list.

Eric (14:53):
I did like it a lot.

Vanessa (14:55):
So my list I just want to caveat it by saying I really
skewed it towards Feel good?
Like a lot of my films are goingto be about me feeling good or
making people feel good becausethis day was a fucking year.

Eric (15:09):
I have a couple of those two.

Vanessa (15:10):
Yeah. So Bill and Ted face the music. It was just such
a happy, fun film. I felt sogood after seeing that movie.
And I you know, same samewriters as previously and you
know, they managed to get Ofcourse, canneries and Alex
winter.

Eric (15:28):
The two daughters are actually we managed to get
canneries. I'm sure Alex winterwas just waiting for kiato.

Vanessa (15:36):
Alex winter has a fine directing career. Yeah. Yeah,
no, Alex was doing really well.
But yeah, it definitely likejust the fact that they I don't
know that it happened at all.
And I know that they've beenstruggling for a long time to
make it so it really feltlovingly crafted. And yeah, and
just yeah, made me feel good.

Kelly (15:56):
I thought that they both fell into those roles pretty
easily again, I believe that Ihad a really good time with that
film.

Vanessa (16:03):
It's great too, because yeah, Keanu post, john wick.
It's almost like Oh, hey, that'sright. canneries exists. And
he's kind of awesome. And we'relike in such a Is it a Kiana
since I read? You know, likeit's just it's really nice to
see him be willing to walk backinto something that basically

(16:26):
define him as a stupid guy whocouldn't act for most of his
career, but he just was like,I'll do it. I don't mind. Nice
makes people happy.

Kelly (16:35):
Well, it'll come as no surprise to you guys that I
cheated from. If I didn't cheat,you can't cheat. But but it's
still I think I'll argue it. Itstill works. Mine is a
documentary. Oh, okay. That'sfine. My number five is leap of
faith William Friedkin on theexorcist.

Vanessa (16:52):
That's awesome. You did love that film.

Kelly (16:55):
I loved it. And not just me. The Rotten Tomatoes. Critics
have it at 91% audience has itat 89% it was written and
directed by Alexandra Oh,Felipe. And here's why this guy
is so good at this. He also did7852 Hitchcock shower scene. Oh,
he also did the people versusGeorge Lucas. Oh, she also did

(17:16):
memory the origins of alien andhe also did the doc of the dead.
So no wonder I love this somuch. I love all of his
document. Those are great. Thisis starring and narrated by
William Friedkin, and it'sdescribed as a lyrical and
spiritual cinematic essay on theexorcist, exploring the depths
of William Friedkin, his mind'seye, the nuances of his

(17:39):
filmmaking process, and themysteries of faith and fate that
have shaped his life andfilmography, which is super
snooty, because what it reallyis, is a masterclass in cinema.
If you can't handle egomaniacsdiscussing themselves probably
not for you but I would arguethat freakin has the body of
work to back up his Ohbraggadocious way

Eric (18:02):
Yeah, I have a problem with his ego just because yeah,
if he was 30 re had an ego likethat it might be a little
different but yeah, he's beensuccessfully making pretty damn
good movies for several decadesgo ahead and have a weird ego

Kelly (18:17):
Yeah, that is available on shutter too so

Vanessa (18:20):
and he's not shooting guns anymore on site right?

Kelly (18:23):
I think he actually mentioned I'd never do that
nowadays.

Vanessa (18:27):
So really it's fine everything's fine punching one
of the like

Eric (18:32):
priests to wasn't an actor isn't

Kelly (18:33):
even an actor

Vanessa (18:35):
Oh my God.

Eric (18:37):
You do need to watch this I do as a as a filmmaker even
more so i think it's it'sinteresting if you love film but
if you've ever been on a set andyou've ever done film stuff even
bigger

Vanessa (18:48):
well so funny because like the the other documentaries
that you mentioned that he wasbehind like the people versus
George Lucas has been on my listfor

Kelly (18:57):
ever. That's so good. So

Vanessa (18:59):
and I already know a fair amount about George Lucas
but I want the extra ammunition

Eric (19:05):
to see this. Yeah, you should It's really good. And
while you're at it, come on andseek the short film George Lucas
in love it's it's awesome.

Vanessa (19:14):
Okay, cool. Every time I know that you are a lover of
short films and you are a greatcurator short films but for me
as soon as you say short filmslike a light goes off in my head
and everyone starts runningaround this This ship is
sinking.

Eric (19:34):
All right, well, on that note, something that is
definitely not a short film. Mynumber four pick. The feel good
movie of the year relic.

Vanessa (19:43):
Oh, of course.

Eric (19:44):
I still haven't seen the same yes is an interesting one.
This one. This actually was theone that made me go. Yeah, I
think we're gonna get the rottentomatoes for each of these
because the critics have it at91. The crowd has it at 48

Vanessa (19:55):
Whoa. That is a disparity.

Kelly (20:00):
slow burn is it deliberately paced

Eric (20:03):
it is to a point the slow burn but nothing compared to
like the lodge with everybodyseemed to love.

Vanessa (20:08):
Why do people like the crap out of me?

Kelly (20:13):
number four on my list

Eric (20:17):
but the if you can argue it's good we will isn't the
relic relic not the relic relicis it's got a gigantic tone
shift from how it starts to avery strange switch in the end
that I went with. I thought,Wow, what an inventive crazy way
to deal with what's going on inthis movie. It's also very dark.

(20:41):
It's very mean, in a lot of waysbecause it's got Yeah, sorry, I
mentioned this too much a fairlyaccurate portrayal of dementia,
and what the family goesthrough. And what a lot of
places what a lot of things alsooften forget. And dementia is
the anger and the other strangeshit that goes on. And they nail
A lot of it. And then they andthey do it really well. And they

(21:02):
don't do it as an insult. Butman when it changes to what, to
the second half and to where thedaughters I think start getting
in danger. It's a very strangeshift at one person. I wonder if
you I read kind of compared itto house of leaves that Oh,
okay, interesting. So yeah, thatis I believe that's Netflix.

Kelly (21:24):
Is that? Is it scary?

Eric (21:26):
Yeah. Yeah, it's got a good dread would be a better
word. Okay. It's got more of adread, but then it's got some
really good, weird suspensestuff.

Kelly (21:36):
And it's supernatural horror, right?

Eric (21:38):
Yeah. Yeah.

Vanessa (21:39):
It's interesting, because I think we talked about
this before, but any horror filmthat really focuses on something
that the filmmakers, especiallyif the filmmakers know, so if
they've clearly been through theprocess of dealing with somebody
who has dementia, and thenincorporate that into a film,
probably, therapeutically, likethat's so freakin cool that
like, it's nice for people whohave also experienced it to see

(22:05):
and just be like, Oh, you didn'tjust have asked us or guess as
to like, how this like, thereare so many films out there
where people just get cancer.
Like, I really, personally for along time, felt like I really
could not possibly talk aboutcancer because I'm like, I don't
know anybody who's undergone andnow I do you know, life goes on.

(22:25):
But it's just, it's it's so nicewhen it feels so authentic. And
I think it can pull off. Yeah,

Eric (22:33):
yeah, this and the taking of Deborah Logan probably are
the most that I've seen the mostaccurate. Yeah. So but yeah,
relic it is. Yeah, right. Youknow, I said, I picked a lot of
feel good movies.

Vanessa (22:46):
Clearly, well, I'll jump into my number four, which
actually kind of mirrors yourcritic, except for wolf. It
mirrors your audience, I guess.
47% for the critics 60% audienceand that is underwater. Ah,

Kelly (23:04):
very nice. This, this was very close to making my list.
Yeah.

Eric (23:08):
I enjoyed it a lot.

Vanessa (23:09):
Yeah, it was just really, I don't know, it was
such a fun action film. And itprobably is higher on my list.
Also, because I saw it intheaters before, to last good

Kelly (23:19):
memory.

Vanessa (23:22):
I was, I mean, I saw I see a lot of films on my own.
And I remember the theater waspretty empty. And it was one of
the last days that it was stillin theaters. And I know the
pandemic had been mentioned. AndI was like, I gotta like get in
and see this movie before. It'stoo late. Um, and yeah, it was
just I liked the surprisemoments. And I liked for the

(23:43):
most part the cast was great.
Just Yeah, moved along verynicely. Very disastrous.

Kelly (23:49):
Remind me what the rotten tomatoes on this is.

Vanessa (23:52):
Audiences 60% critics 47

Kelly (23:56):
What did they want out of this movie?

Unknown (23:57):
I don't know.

Eric (23:58):
I'm sure no fun having stupid critic.

Kelly (24:02):
This movie takes about 40 seconds to get going. And then
it's just non stop. I I lovedit. Yeah,

Vanessa (24:09):
and I don't think it's a stupid movie. I think like
everything that happens. Itfeels like it escalates
appropriately. I don't know. Idon't know what there is to it.
They What do they say aboutthis? So strong cast and stylish
direction aren't enough todistract from the strong sense
of deja vu provoked by thisclaustrophobic thrillers
derivative story?

Kelly (24:30):
Oh, it's too much like other movies you love.

Vanessa (24:33):
I know. I'm like we're at an age now where it's gonna
be pretty darn hard to pull offsomething new unless it's about
like, twitch streaming. Andlet's face it,

Kelly (24:42):
they've got to be comparing it to the alien
movies. This is the best alienmovies since aliens. Oh, yeah.
So it's not like an alienmovies. And this one is sucky.

Vanessa (24:53):
And it's like, I mean, you could you could argue it's
alien meets abyss, but it's nottonally Either of those films,
it's its own film. It's anaction movie. I mean aliens as
to but it feels more adrenalinedriven and disasterous mixed in
with those elements. So

Eric (25:11):
I don't know. I'm just I always find the that excuse for
movie being bad going. It's likeyou actually kind of really
respected or liked this movie insome way. But you felt you
needed to show how low you knowthis is just like yeah, that and
probably 40 other films come upwith a bunch of people in
trouble running away. Hey, man,

Vanessa (25:31):
you're has no hair and x this is throwing me

Eric (25:35):
there with the Ava avatar thing is just like dances with
pools. Yeah, Dances with Wolveswas like about 400 other
westerns they haven't seen.

Vanessa (25:43):
So yeah, Mandalorian is lone wolf and cub, right? So we
we just have to know that, hey,if it references something or
borrows from something. So whatif it's enjoyable?

Kelly (25:55):
Why does it matter work for Quentin Tarantino. And not
only that a big critique of thefilm I saw was that there was no
character development. And Ithought that the filmmakers got
around that by casting peoplethat you kind of understood.
Yeah. So when TJ trans shellshows up in a role Yeah, I
actually know what his characteris going to immediately show I

(26:16):
don't need development. Yeah,no.

Vanessa (26:18):
And we all you want to do is see how those people act
in these situations. They'rethrown in. Yeah.

Eric (26:25):
The thing that comes up a lot with indie films that it
gets submitted. It's like, Oh,we spend a lot of time on
character development. peoplesitting around a campground
talking about various shit isnot character development. Yeah,
I think underwater had goodcharacter development, because
it showed them reacting in realtime and what was really going
on, right. And I don't need toknow that they were born in

(26:46):
Oklahoma for that

Vanessa (26:49):
character as they go from space to space. I seem to
remember like more clues areunveiled about what happened who
who different people are? Idon't know like I definitely
felt like there was maybe thecharacters weren't changing as
the action happened but ourunderstanding of them certainly
once and and more power to thedirector as well, which I just

(27:10):
want to mention William Eubankwho did the signal love and was
mostly a cinematographer? Imean, that's that's been his
main shtick for a long time. Sogreat. I and he's trying, he's
trying things. The signal waslike a interesting film. So it
had a lot of weird moments. Butlike, man, like that was a lot

(27:33):
of effort behind an indie piece.
So

Kelly (27:36):
yeah, I've changed my mind. That's now my number one.
So let's come back. We'll justfind more to mention about
underwater. Until then. Mynumber four was the dark in the
wicked. Did that make anybodyelse's list?

Vanessa (27:51):
No.

Eric (27:52):
It's one of those years, man. Yeah,

Kelly (27:54):
the budget that I could not find but a box office of
414,000 somehow Rotten Tomatoescritics have it at 90% audience
as it is 62% it was written anddirected by Brian bertino. Who
who wrote and directed thestrangers which you know, I hate

(28:14):
the black coats daughter which Ithink is pretty dang good. Gary
and the monster which is theyoung girl in her mom on the
stuck on the road with theirOnStar surrounding their car. So
this guy is done a good job ofthese kind of movies. Stars
Marin Ireland who has 68 creditsmost notably sissy in the

(28:36):
umbrella Academy. I will beplaying Nora in the upcoming why
the last man series Did you guysever Oh, my God.

Vanessa (28:43):
Yes. That was one of my first graphic novels that like
adventure yo adaptation

Kelly (28:48):
or I don't know, but it has eight episodes listed on
IMDB. So Oh my god. Also starsMichael Abbott Jr, who has a ton
of short films and a coupleepisodes of Fear the Walking
Dead and the upcoming Hillhouseremake.

Vanessa (29:03):
Oh, man, okay.

Kelly (29:05):
And this is about a brother and a sister who are
called back to their family farmbecause their father is on his
deathbed. It goes from thatlovely happy premise to very
much worse as mom kills herselfthat night, and a series of very
scary events and visions starthappening. Basically, for some
reason, there's a demon that iswaiting for their father's soul.

(29:26):
And it is tormenting everyone asit waits this thing. Have you
seen the spinach? Oh, it is soscary. Um, it's got a couple of
moments. There's a shot wherethe guy looks outside and he
sees his dead mom floating outthere. And I just got it raised
the hair on my arm. It's gotamazing sound design. It has

(29:49):
relentless scares, and I lovedevery dread filled second of it.
I know Eric had a complaint thatthere was nothing by break.

Eric (29:56):
It's just one of us. It's one of my strange little things,
but didn't hurt the film still agreat damn movie but

Kelly (30:05):
yeah I for whatever reason it really stuck with me
so that is the dark and thewicked It is only available as a
rental still

Eric (30:13):
wow worth it worth it though

Kelly (30:15):
it was like 299 is not a $15 rental Yeah

Vanessa (30:18):
exactly. A lot of these you know I paid for and
somewhere and other

Eric (30:26):
all right so my number three I guess would be was one I
know you've talked about I don'tthink he liked it nearly as much
as I did but was spontaneous.
That's higher than three. Yep.
All right. Let's head over togive here number three and we'll
come back to spontaneous one.

Vanessa (30:46):
And my number three is freaky.

Kelly (30:49):
Oh, fun. Nice

Eric (30:50):
choice. I that was one that it didn't make my list but
it balanced. Oh, damn it

Vanessa (30:55):
again. Just one that I just had a lot of fun watching
the cast. Clearly I had a lot offun making this film. Vince
Vaughn basically pulling off ajack black. I'm of course
referencing jack black andJumanji, where he plays a
teenage girl. Much like VinceVaughn in this movie playing a
new teenage girl. And I've beena popular teenage girl like an

(31:18):
outsider teenage girl. That'snot an easy like pole that's
like, hey, I need you to play ateenage girl but here's her
actual character in depth.

Eric (31:26):
So it looks like he's like seven five. So hugely,

Vanessa (31:33):
he's enormous, absolutely enormous. And so the
director is Christopher Landon,who wrote freaky as well and
happy death day ParanormalActivity too. And start off with
like, Disturbia. The stars inthis, the main girl, Catherine
Newton. You I was trying tofigure out where I'd seen her

(31:55):
before. She was in Pokemon.
Pokemon. She's the girl.

Kelly (32:01):
She was the lady that the detective Pikachu didn't i
didn't watch. Oh,

Vanessa (32:06):
you know what? It was fun.

Kelly (32:07):
I mean, I tried. Based on your suggestion.

Vanessa (32:11):
I think we have to have an understanding between us that
sometimes I enjoy

Kelly (32:16):
children's content. We have an understanding Vanessa.

Vanessa (32:20):
She was also in three billboards. And she's gonna play
Cassie Lang and the new air man.
So Wow. Yeah. But she was just asuper fun character to watch.
And as well just I don't know,it was a great dynamic to see a
young girl owning Vince Vaughn.
So

Kelly (32:36):
yeah, super fun. I didn't realize I was the same guy that
did happy death day that wrotehappy death day also.

Vanessa (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, it's um, there's a lot of crossover
actually in my selections, whichis going to be interesting to
check out. But I will say it'sinteresting. I don't know how
they're figuring out the rottentomatoes and audience scores for
these. But this one sat at like83% critic 80% audience,

Kelly (33:02):
how do they know the audience is just the people who
will waste time writing reviewon Rotten Tomatoes.

Vanessa (33:07):
Oh, that's that's the only way they get the audience.

Kelly (33:09):
Yeah. And the critics isn't? What do you call it an
aggregation of all criticreviews?

Unknown (33:15):
No.

Kelly (33:16):
If you basically say I liked the film, and I give it a
D. That's a positive

Vanessa (33:22):
thing. Do people actually go on to rotten
tomatoes and review stuff?

Kelly (33:26):
Oh, my God. Remember? The last Jedi? No, I

Vanessa (33:31):
do not.

Eric (33:32):
I mean, change the way they did it wrong. Their critics
is somebody. If you would gothrough it, you'd read the same
because it was so hated byfanboys you'd read the same
stupid review, like every fourreviews. Oh, man, exact same
thing, or somebody was justgoing in. It's just bad. Wow.

Vanessa (33:51):
I mean, I would think, oh, why don't you get the data
from IMDb and letterboxed. And,you know,

Kelly (33:57):
Eric and I have talked many times about how much we
actually hate Rotten Tomatoes.
And we don't think that it'sanything we should be basing any
of your decisions on, but thatit made for a good gimmick in
what we talk. And that's theonly reason.

Vanessa (34:11):
I know I will I never I never follow it. But I do like
how it summarizes up in onesentence, like 1000s of pieces
of information.

Eric (34:21):
Metacritic, that kind of does the same thing. I think the
rotten tomatoes one is it's moreknown. So let's talk about it.
Yeah, it's just an aggregationsite, folks.

Vanessa (34:31):
Thank you for the lesson, guys. I really
appreciate it.

Kelly (34:35):
Okay, we'll get into my number three. And then how about
after this, we take a littlebreak. Sounds good to me. And
that's all dependent on this notbeing somewhere higher on
anybody's list, and I've got thehunt. Note,

Eric (34:48):
also floated around my top five for a while but didn't
quite make it.

Kelly (34:53):
budget of 14 million box office of 11 million because it
opened the weekend thateverything shut down. So they
all almost had a great weekend.
It actually made 5 million ofthat just as the theaters
closed. Rotten Tomatoes criticshabit of 57% audience has it as
66 which I think is a littlelow. You guys both saw this I

(35:13):
think you liked this.

Vanessa (35:16):
I mean, I can't believe it's number three for you loved
this movie.

Eric (35:22):
I could see where the kind of person that would go on to
run tomatoes and write a reviewwould get the wrong mindset and
they'd focus on well this madefun of me. But it makes

Vanessa (35:33):
fun of everybody and

Kelly (35:35):
ignore

Eric (35:36):
good already missed the fact that it's also making fun
of everybody. Oh

Vanessa (35:40):
my god, the liberals take a tough hit in this,

Kelly (35:44):
for sure. Directed by Craig zobel, who has done
episodes of outcast AmericanGods and Westworld, written by
Nick coos, who is a writer andproducer on HBO is watchman and
Damon Lindelof, who you wouldknow from last promethease Star
Trek Into Darkness, World War Zand eight episodes of watchmen

(36:04):
he basically was show ran thatepisode wrote every episode
Yeah. It stars Betty Gilpin, whois a national treasure 38
credits, but I only know herfrom the show glow. In that
show.

Vanessa (36:18):
She's so good in it.

Kelly (36:21):
And Hilary Swank from Boys Don't Cry Million Dollar
Baby and the next Karate Kid.

Vanessa (36:30):
Lest we forget

Kelly (36:33):
his movie, it starts with a bunch of strangers waking up
and declaring they don't knowwhere they are, how they got
there. And then it turns intomost dangerous game. And maybe
this is why I like it, becausethat's one of my favorite types
of stories. Oh, okay, gotcha.
And this might be my favoriteexecution of it right next to
last year's Ready or not, whichis also the most dangerous game

(36:53):
story. This is a bunch ofelitist liberal assholes who
have grabbed together a bunch ofhorrible, conservative online
people who are posting shittythings, and they've decided to
hunt them. But they might haveaccidentally picked the wrong
person with one of them. Yeah.

(37:17):
And it does have bitingcommentary because you hate
everybody. And yeah, both sides.
And then when the kind of twistcomes and you realize what's
really going on, you're like,Oh, my God, I can almost see
this happening based on the waywe all jump to conclusions so
easily. Yeah,

Vanessa (37:35):
absolutely. I mean, I, I have to admit, as somebody who
listens to a hell of a lot ofNPR, I had a moment where I was
like, I feel really dirty andbad about my suffering now. But
I want to be educated.

Kelly (37:51):
I thought it was I thought it was funny. I thought
it was surprisingly gory. Theydid a couple of little twists at
the beginning that I like, likewhere you bring in a actor you
recognize you go, oh, there'sthe hero of the show. And boom,
he's out or

Eric (38:06):
part of what made me really want to see it was the
the initial reaction before iteven came out. You had I think
it was. I think it was TuckerCarlson who lost his shit about
it. And then

Kelly (38:16):
I think it was no less than Trump who lost his ship.

Eric (38:18):
Yeah, yeah. And then and it just climbed up and the
whoever you want to pick theresomebody, I don't think it would
matter. But it was somebody likethat, who lost their ship on the
left about it was like, Oh, thisis something

Kelly (38:32):
well, and the conservatives who are losing
their shit over it didn't seemto get that. They should have
been saying yes, this is whatwe've been saying forever. They
want to hunt us and kill us.
They were like, this is a movieabout liberals hunting and
killing conservatives. Well,it's not actually but Okay,

Vanessa (38:51):
we're just spinning because that's what liberals
said to me. I didn't want towatch it forever. Because I was
like, Oh, this is a movie putout by conservatives about how
shitty we are. Well, becausethat was the impression I got
Yeah, I'm gonna stay

Kelly (39:04):
research a little bit and realize that's not gonna happen
and Hollywood.

Eric (39:08):
That's not about the guy who created watchmen. rafts of
shit for being too liberal. AndI know I will I

Vanessa (39:15):
honestly I didn't do any research. I and I did watch
it.

Kelly (39:19):
So right. Yeah, I loved it. Number three for me, is
still not available anywhere.
Well, maybe it might be on HBOMax, but I don't think

Eric (39:27):
so. I think it's on HBO,

Kelly (39:29):
or something like that.
If it is I'm watching it again.

Vanessa (39:32):
I definitely got it via Netflix, disk and mail.

Kelly (39:38):
Wow. The people at Netflix are like we really want
to discontinue this service. Butthere's still one person who's
using it my

Vanessa (39:44):
mom. Definitely my mom.
She wanted to see my mom. No, mymom has been forced to get my
list of things when I have runout of hallmark movies to order
for her.

Kelly (39:57):
Does your mom have an AOL email address?

Vanessa (40:00):
Fully No, but it is a Hotmail.

Kelly (40:02):
Okay, better? Yeah. All right, guys, why don't we take a
little bit break? And we willcome back we'll discuss our last
two films and then we'll getinto our runner ups for the
year.

Unknown (40:20):
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(40:43):
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(41:05):
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(41:27):
Well, I think the Wonder Boehneris a winner.
Did you get the Wonder ball?
Buddy you should.

Kelly (41:41):
And we are back. Hey guys, just kind of weird. We've
had no crossover yet. One. I'mOh,

Vanessa (41:46):
yeah, that's one so far.

Kelly (41:47):
Not one the counter. I mean, nobody cross over with me.

Vanessa (41:51):
That's true. That is true. I think I know at least
one year next to you. That isnot on my list. So

Eric (41:57):
yeah. Okay.

Kelly (41:58):
Well, Eric, I think you're done next.

Eric (42:00):
I'm pretty sure this won't be a crossover for anyone.
There's another one that I don'tthink I don't even know if
either of you have watched yeteither. But swallow.

Vanessa (42:08):
I still have not seen it for sure that

Kelly (42:11):
liked it so much and made you

Eric (42:14):
Wow. It's just I don't know if the hell of a film hell
of a character study film.
Again, like I said, when Italked about it before, it's
borderline horror, you'repushing to call this horror, but
that's how they market it. SoScrew it, I'm going with him.
But so I've talked to him aboutthis one a bunch, I won't say
too much. But it was a at acritic 72 crowd. So fairly

(42:36):
highly rated. Now this one Iwould classify as a slow burn.
But it is far more of acharacter study than it is a
people attacking each other kindof thing or anything like that.
It's all about what the leadgoes through what she goes
through as a newlywed andcontrolled by this asshole guy
and this awful, awful family.

(43:00):
And the weird way she comes todeal with it by swallowing
stuff, you know, her ability,her way to control her world
becomes very apparent to her.
And exercise incredibly wellacted really well directed. The
art direction is also way offthe chart, especially when you
rise the guy wanted to emulateHitchcock in the way things look

(43:20):
not necessarily in the movie,but the way it looked. Yep.

Kelly (43:27):
I remember thinking that just viewing the trailer. I was
like this looks like a moviethat was made in 1968.

Eric (43:33):
Yes, Yeah, it does. And it maintains that through the film
so so yeah, like I say if youreally want to hear me blab
incessantly about this tech upour episode on eating things or
freaky food I believe it'sfairly recent it's only a few
weeks back but I talked about itmuch more but yeah, left a hell
of an impression on me.

Vanessa (43:54):
You're really into the character development stories

Unknown (43:59):
this year Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

Vanessa (44:02):
No, I'm I'm definitely impressed with it and excited to
check it out at some point whenI want to feel bad. I'm also my
number two is also somethingthat I talked about in depth
previously, which is a Kellyrecommendation. Love and
monsters.

Kelly (44:19):
Oh, hi. says this is right there at the top. I was
like, Oh, I'm gonna have to letgo. I love that movie.

Vanessa (44:26):
You but you didn't quite make it onto your list.
Oh, no. Yeah, there was thismovie was just so again. I don't
know, within a normal year itwould have been in my top five.
But this year, it was frickin inmy top five. Well, you weren't
kidding. If you're looking forfeel good.

Kelly (44:41):
Yes. This one was all of that.

Vanessa (44:44):
And the critics agree with 92%.

Kelly (44:48):
Wow, that just makes me angry that it didn't get to
theaters because I wanteverybody involved in this to
become big stars.

Vanessa (44:54):
Well, you know, and the director Michael Matthews who
also he hasn't done a lot too,so I'm hoping that you know,
post COVID he's going to berecognized because he'd only
really done sweetheart and fivefinger marsay which I know I'd
mentioned before, but

Kelly (45:11):
so he directed sweetheart. Yeah. Do you guys
remember that one? I do. Yeah. Ididn't like it. Yeah, yeah.

Eric (45:19):
significantly. Yeah. He's repped helps.

Vanessa (45:21):
He learns Yes, exactly.
Having a really solid script. Italmost feels like an Edgar
Wright movie in places. Verymuch. Yeah. So they're just such
a well written, well acted piecewith fun monsters. Oh my god,
that world is so much fun tolive in. And the thing that I
don't like about certain movieslike The Purge, is that they

(45:42):
establish this really neatuniverse that we don't get to
see a lot of, and love andmonsters is like, no, we're
going we're going and you get tosee all kinds of critters and
all kinds of differentsituations. And

Eric (45:56):
that was just really neat.
Well, you know, in line with thebut the Lord of the Rings
haters, he's just about a guywalking man.

Vanessa (46:05):
It's true. And and he writes in his little book, he
makes this little journalentries about the monsters on
the way and then yeah, there'slove and there's monsters isn't
the title.

Eric (46:15):
Right? It delivers what it promises. Sure

Vanessa (46:17):
does.

Kelly (46:18):
It also reminded me of my youth middle school and early
High School playing like roleplaying games. This felt like a
world that Yeah, you know, youwould want to play a role
playing game based in

Vanessa (46:30):
Oh, absolutely. I mean, the monster encounters are
frequent enough, but you stillhave time for adventure on the
edge. When when he pulled outhis notebook to kind of start to
write down these these monsters.
I actually had a strong momentof Oh my God, that's such a cool
idea. Because it is just a d&dbook and monster manual. Yeah,
monster manual.

Kelly (46:53):
In a perfect world, this would have become a huge hit.
And that book would have beenavailable for all of us to pick
up,

Vanessa (47:01):
I would have bought it Me too. I would have bought
edition one and two.

Kelly (47:07):
Nice. Okay, so that was your number two? Absolutely.
I could have cheated again.
Because my number two and mynumber one are interchangeable.
And I thought I'll just makethese a tie. So I can slip
another movie in. But I didn't.
But I wonder if this is makingyour guys list, then I think you
can't. possessor uncut is mynumber two,

Vanessa (47:27):
it did not quite make my last

Eric (47:29):
scene for me. It was definitely in that. If we were
doing a top 10 it would bethere.

Vanessa (47:33):
If it was not 2020 or 2020. It would have probably
made it but it is it is a 2020year. So this

Kelly (47:42):
hit me right in the sweet spot of what I wish that a new
David Cronenberg film would havebeen

Vanessa (47:51):
really, I

Kelly (47:52):
couldn't find any budget stuff on it. But the box office
was 895,000. Again, somehow. Idon't know it was labeled
earlier. You Yeah. Must beAustralia or in the last three
weeks where films were opensomewhere.

Vanessa (48:06):
Yeah, London opened for like a hot second and then
closed back down. So everybodywent to the theaters for like, a
couple weeks. And then

Kelly (48:14):
yeah, so the critics for Rotten Tomato have this at 93%,
which is pretty good for film.
And the audience has it at 59%.
And I'm guessing it's just alittle too cerebral. There's too
much thinking and wonderingwhat's actually going on because
there is a lot of that in thiswhere you're like, what's going
on? Yeah, written and directedby Brandon Cronenberg, who had

(48:37):
done antiviral, BrandonCronenberg, of course, produced
by David Cronenberg.
Andrea riseborough fromOblivion, Birdman, nocturnal
animals and probably mostrecognizable from Mandy and
Jennifer Jason Leigh from FastTimes at ridgemont High the

(49:00):
hitcher annihilation lyceesstory, or Lisi story, I guess
it's called which is a StephenKing adaptation. And I was like,
Oh, cool. I like this book, whoshe playing in that? When I look
on IMDB, you know, they've gotthe list of actors and then the
character they're playing. Yeah,it's got the list of actors and
the characters are playing whenit comes to Jennifer Jason
Leigh, no character name. It'sjust a blank line. Oh,

(49:24):
what's this all about?

Vanessa (49:27):
mystery for another time. Yes.

Kelly (49:29):
riseborough plays an agent who works for some kind of
secretive organization that usesthis bizarre brain implant
technology to inhabit otherpeople's bodies, and then
ultimately driving those peopleto commit assassinations for
high paying clients. Becausethis is a horror film, she
begins to lose control and findsherself trapped in the mind of a

(49:50):
man whose willpower is muchstronger than her own. It This
is just a weird fucking movie.
It feels like it should havebeen made in 1977 or eight. It's
such a strange idea. Some reallystrong performances some
shocking door when it shows up.
I don't know that it's a gorymovie, but when it decides to be
it certainly is. And you know,you don't want the sun look as

(50:16):
Steven Spielberg sun comes outand he makes a movie that's just
like 80 or something. That'skind of like the last thing you
really want. Yeah. But I didn'trealize how badly I wanted
Brandon to make it.

Vanessa (50:30):
I mean, Cronenberg left a gaping hole, and no one has
properly filled his ownfilmmaker. It's

Eric (50:37):
nice to have somebody

Vanessa (50:39):
Canada financed that man and no one else would have.
And thank goodness for thatbecause we have some real
interesting content because ofit.

Kelly (50:48):
Yeah, but Cronenberg doesn't even make Cronenberg
move backwards. So

Eric (50:51):
he's gone. legit, as it were,

Kelly (50:53):
and he acts so this was, this was just so refreshing. I
loved this movie.

Vanessa (50:59):
Does it remind you at all in places of under the skin

Kelly (51:03):
under the skin? I'm trying to Oh, Scarlett Johansen,
I did not like that movie.

Vanessa (51:10):
It's just like, I think just in those moments where she,
you go into the weird mentalstate where it maybe it's inside
of a spaceship, it's hard totell. It's that black room with
a black oily, you know, and theperson is being overtaken by
her. And there's this kind ofinteresting exchange.

Kelly (51:27):
You know, now that you mentioned it, I think this would
probably make a great doublefeature with that, because it
feels like they should both beplaying on a drive in and 1970s
Oh

Vanessa (51:36):
my god, that'd be so much fun. I got somebody really,
we got to keep doing driving. Idon't know where there was a
little surge in the summer andwhere are they now?

Eric (51:46):
I need them. generally don't run in the winter.

Vanessa (51:48):
I don't care to make them rent in the winter here.
I'll put on my windshieldwipers. It'll be fine.

Kelly (51:53):
But that was my number two. I mean, by process of
elimination, number one, yournumber ones have to be the same
thing you're talking about.
Don't know. Okay, it's mynumber.

Eric (52:04):
I know you're number one.
Yes. No, no, my number one wasanything for Jackson.

Unknown (52:09):
Wow, I love this movie.

Eric (52:11):
What just totally took me by surprise because I was doing
that list of here's the 2020movie. I think it's on shutter.
So I was like well watch watchthis. heard nothing about it.
You didn't see a trailercommercial for it or anything
thing. blown away by it. It wasa 9873 for critics and crowds so

(52:34):
fairly highly related. reviewed,directed by I don't know if it's
just in G dike or Jessen, gdick, but de YCK not just as you
see necessary. But here's someof his other films. A Christmas
exchange, a Christmas in theRockies. love and harmony Valley

(52:57):
pony sitters club baby in amanger? I mean, he's got like 30
some odd credits and every oneof them looks like they're from
the heart Hallmark Channel.
Except this one.

Vanessa (53:09):
Yes.

Eric (53:10):
And something in this guy said I have to direct a horror
film. And he nailed it. Did hebreak this

Kelly (53:17):
one also or don't know?
That would be interesting ifhe's just been making all these
home schooling. I can't wait tomake my really crazy horror.

Unknown (53:27):
The pay me

Eric (53:29):
as a writer to robot story he didn't write looks like he's
a story writer but didn't writethe script.

Kelly (53:33):
I'll say this the relationship between the adults
Oh feel so real dad. I'm surethat's all honed on years of
Hallmark Channel.

Eric (53:42):
Yes, exactly. And that's part of why I think it works so
well. is the love and caringbetween the husband and the you
absolutely believe these peoplewill do anything for Jackson.
Yeah, cuz they are so connectedto each other and the and the
side characters are all great.
And they're not one or two ofthem. Sounds like a beer. Sounds
like in a lot of movies would becliche characters. I think

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they're given a fair amount ofdepth. Even if they're just
barely on the screen like theguy who constantly wants to
shovel their yard has a solidgroup of scenes. And the acting
is all top notch. The effectsare top notch and the ideas and
the execution are wonderfullyneck we're talking about

(54:33):
original earlier. Yeah, you'veseen shit like this before, but
you really haven't seen donelike this. And it's a lot of
fun. And it just nailed me whenI watch it gone. I love it.

Vanessa (54:47):
I will say the ghosts in it. Were very effective. Yes.
Yeah. They

Eric (54:50):
don't have a lot of scares, but the ones that does.
Are there.

Vanessa (54:54):
Yeah, definitely. And you know, like, exactly they
aren't it after a while. It'slike not as scary but then you
get a new one and it's like, ohmy god, what the hell is
happening right now? So yeah,definitely it didn't make my
list but I can totally see whyit would be at the top of yours

Kelly (55:15):
really, really well written brilliantly cast because
what he's asking you to do isroot for the bad guys and you
you absolutely root for the badguys the entire time because
they're simple. They'reaccidental bad guys. You're
right. So they don't they don'treally want to be doing this.
They just don't feel likethey've got another choice.

(55:35):
Yeah,

Eric (55:36):
and it does that very rare thing really well, where it's
talking about before with theway too serious all the time. If
this had been a flat out seriousfilm, it wouldn't work at all.
No, but since it's got thatwonderful give and take of humor
and weirdness and things peopleknow what they're doing these
people have no idea what they'redoing. Back and forth. So well.

(55:56):
I just think it's incrediblywell executed.

Kelly (55:59):
The the humor is all based in I mean, if you can
imagine if you found out yourgrandma was a practicing
satanist, but she had juststarted funny.

Vanessa (56:10):
Yeah, they're little meetups with the other people
who are also part of this sogood.

Eric (56:16):
So it was like I just this is just something I do for fun.
I like

Vanessa (56:21):
to it reminded me so much of the one time that we did
our podcasts in the communitylibrary. Like you can borrow
these rooms for anything.

Eric (56:33):
Good point. Yep. So that was my 2020 number one I think I
know what yours might

Vanessa (56:38):
weirdly enough you probably do. Much like you this
came to my list late in the gameit was while I was trying to fit
in some more 2020 titles andjust see what was out there that
I'd missed. And I'm so glad Idid. My number one is
spontaneous. To no one'ssurprise good.

Eric (56:57):
What I had that that was three for me.

Vanessa (56:59):
It's I just it affected me pretty deeply. I think much
like relative for you. This onetouched on some personal topics
for me, like losing a parent andthen seeing people around you
disappear was really just Icried. I definitely cried. And I
think critics agree 98% audienceis slightly less so 72% the

(57:24):
director for this actually alsowas the writer for underwater
love and monsters. divergentbabysitter.

Kelly (57:31):
Yeah, he had a good year.

Eric (57:32):
Yeah, good.

Vanessa (57:34):
Good going. Brian Duffield way to go dude, you
rocked it. I really enjoyed thecast. I think Katherine
Langford, who you might rememberfrom knives out and maybe love
Simon. She was in 13 reasons whyshe just really, I don't know,
like she was very effective asthe like fun, controlled out of

(57:57):
control, but really controlledteen the, you know, the one that
with the cool parents that kindof let them you know, let her do
whatever she wants, but alsoshe's not gonna do anything bad
anyway, so it's fine. Um, Idon't know, just for me.

Eric (58:11):
It was on my list. Yeah.
What was it that you got? Forme? Part of what worked is I
really liked her and herboyfriend. Yeah. Yeah. And you
kind of know what's coming. Sothere were scenes like when they
were in the barn, I've goneplease let this scene and I
don't want this scene goingbecause what fight happens? So
you've got these incrediblysweet scenes with this intense

(58:32):
level of tension goingunderneath gone? Okay, no doubt.
Yeah. All right. And when itfinally is executed, like, wow,

Vanessa (58:44):
yep. You know, exactly like you have these kind of, you
know, that everyone is a tickingtime bomb. Yeah, everyone, and
you have no idea what's going tohappen with any of them. And I
think that, yeah, that feelingof just wanting to see them
happy and then being forced toundergo strong moments of

(59:07):
extreme unhappiness fromdifferent characters and, and
then finding a silver lining. Itwas hard. It's hard to pull that
out of that movie, but they Ifelt like they did. And I think
that's why effect affected me sostrongly is they actually
brought me to the darkestpossible place, and then brought
me back out.

Unknown (59:26):
So I can see that I remember see that.

Kelly (59:29):
I liked this movie a lot.
Not as much as you guys. Ithought the dialogue was just a
little too clever. And I wastelling Eric when I saw that, I
was like, boy, this makes mefeel old. Man because I think if
I was like Vanessa in my 20s andfemale, sir, then I would
probably enjoy this a lot more.

(59:52):
But just noticing how clever thedialogue was make me feel old

Vanessa (59:57):
and it does speak to a very different Generation for
sure. Like the the people whoare going through high school
right now do not know what it isto be a jock versus nerd. Yeah,
you know, like, that's gone,that world does not exist
anymore. It's not a problem if,for the most part, it's not as
big of a problem if you havegender fluidity, it's a whole

(01:00:20):
different world and and they'resurrounded by internet and
phones and different lines ofcommunication and different
ideas.

Kelly (01:00:27):
nerd culture is pop culture.

Vanessa (01:00:30):
Yeah, it is.

Kelly (01:00:31):
Everybody's a nerd.

Vanessa (01:00:32):
Big Bang Theory is just a common show. It is their
friends, you know?

Kelly (01:00:38):
Yeah, very nice. One of the things I liked about it, a
common complaint for the dark inthe wicked is no explanation for
why all this horrible shit ishappening. It's very broad
explanation at the end where itmight be because the grandpa was
bad guy, but we never get any,you know, he sold a soul or
anything like that. That worksso much better in kind of a

(01:01:00):
romantic comedy situation where,you know, there's no explanation
for why these kids are suddenlyexploding. And we don't need to
know. That's not what the storyis. But

Vanessa (01:01:11):
exactly, which Yeah, I absolutely love that. Because
any explanation is going to bebad. We're not going to like it.
So why bother? It's going

Kelly (01:01:19):
to take away from what is important, which is a story of
her and what she's goingthrough.

Eric (01:01:24):
Yeah. And I think the potential would have been
destroyed. If I brought it likewhen, like, the government found
what was wrong. Yeah,

Kelly (01:01:32):
too high a midichlorians.

Vanessa (01:01:35):
And they're like, we're not gonna explain it to some
teens. And since we're with ateen, it's like, you wouldn't
get it anyway. So don't worryabout it kind of thing. And that
that works for me.

Eric (01:01:45):
Yeah, I like that one. So yeah, what

Unknown (01:01:48):
is

Kelly (01:01:49):
this one's gonna surprise you guys. I picked for my number
one. Wolf of snow hollow.

Vanessa (01:01:54):
Shocking, completely shocking. I definitely had no
idea this was gonna be somewherenear the top of your list.

Eric (01:02:00):
I knew it was going to be on your list. So when it hadn't
showed up yet? Well, I know whatnumber one is.

Kelly (01:02:05):
Yeah. a budget of $2 million. Box office have 185,000
Rotten Tomatoes. Critics have itat 89% and the audience has it
at 72% I know exactly why.

Eric (01:02:18):
I'm gonna share it real quick. I can guarantee you this
is probably going to be one ofthe next movies I watched I
purposely did not want to talkabout it. And the way you
described her going, God Thiscould fall into my top five
pretty easily so I'm just notgoing to allow you know what a
sacrifice

Kelly (01:02:36):
thanks, but

Vanessa (01:02:37):
I did watch it. But

Kelly (01:02:38):
Vanessa, just ignore all that she said I I said about
Eric earlier. It was written anddirected by Jim Cummings, who
wrote and directed Thunder Road.
Do you guys see that movie? Itwon Sundance a couple years
back? He plays a neurotic cop.
And now I know you haven't seenit. It's fantastic. He got his

(01:03:01):
start. So when you look on theIMDB page, they showed like the
film's he's known for such andsuch so he's known for wolf of
snow hollow Thunder Road.
Captain America The WinterSoldier. And I was like what?
Like go on there. His first filmhe was a PA glory I love it.
Yeah. Wow. What

Eric (01:03:22):
a what a difference. It shows up. There that Okay, time
to put my movie together, but Ican't have any of that.

Kelly (01:03:30):
It also stars Jim Cummings and Riki lindhome who
was in knives stout knives outand a ton of other things but as
also Garfunkel and Garfunkelnotes, and Robert Forster, who
is a goddamn legend. 189 creditsincluding Jackie Brown vigilante
alligator and the black hole.
This is jazz with a werewolf inthe snow. Nice Derek grips a

(01:03:54):
small mountain town his bodiesare discovered discovered after
each full moon. The sheriff isdivorced, hates his wife has a
teenage daughter who he lovesvery much but doesn't connect
with very well in some veryfunny moments. And he's doing
all of this stuff. RobertForster is his ailing father and

(01:04:17):
the police chief. And it appearsthey have a werewolf killing
people. This is the movie Iwould expect if the Coen
Brothers announced they weregoing to make a werewolf movie.
Oh, wow. Yeah, it is shockinglygory. It's very very talky. The
lead is neurotic mess, which issomething that Jim Cummings

(01:04:39):
seems to have a good handle onbecause he plays pretty much the
same character and Thunder Road.
And it's got some reallyridiculous humor moments in it.
That made me laugh a few secondsafter they had happened. Oh, cuz
I had to think about it. Therewas like dialogue that just
raced by and then I was like,teach it. It's also surprisingly

(01:05:01):
bittersweet because Forsterplays the sick and ailing father
and kind of mirrors what wasgoing on with his health. In his
last days. This was his lastfilm. Oh, wow. Just to nail some
of the funny stuff down, I tooka couple of quotes that I liked
from the dialogue. This is thesheriff talking to his daughter.

(01:05:22):
He says, I'm having a hard timewith this thing, honey, it's
nothing you have to worry about.
I'm going to find the guyobviously. But I'm just curious
if you still have that pepperspray that I got you for
communion. Says I think so yourealize that was a weird gift to
give somebody right? He says Ido. It's okay. You'll never need
it. But I want you to promise methat you're gonna find it and
keep it on you at all times. Andthen his dad talking to him.

(01:05:45):
When he says you're gonna have ahard time getting my generation
off the stage. Willie Nelsonstill doing concerts? He says,
Yeah, I mean, to be fair, dad,Willie Nelson is playing guitar.
And he's not doing a lot ofheavy police work. And, and
Robert Forster when all of thisstuff starts going on, he gets

(01:06:07):
on his computer. And the newsreports are trying to contact
them and he's like, Oh, my God.
What is this 11 new emails onthis thing this morning? Jesus
Christ, this is worse than mybirthday. So this is a werewolf
movie in the same way that jawsis a shark movie, which is to
say it is not a werewolf movie.
It is a human movie. Thecharacters are really, really

(01:06:30):
well fleshed out therelationships between just
friends between the ex wifebetween the daughter and his
father. They all felt sobelievable and then in the
middle is slapped this werewolfstory. And a lot of people are
gonna say not a werewolf story.

(01:06:51):
But when you see that werewolfthe first time you're like,
Fuck, yes. That is the coolestwerewolf I've seen on screen.
Very, very dog soldiers designon the werewolf. And I just
loved it. I'm gonna watch itagain. Just talking about it
made me love it.

Eric (01:07:11):
Like I said, it looks pretty damn good to me. So I'm
gonna know out there that I'mliking that.

Kelly (01:07:18):
You said you saw it but I haven't heard you talk about it.
So yeah. did not love it as muchas I didn't

Vanessa (01:07:23):
love it as much as you did. But I do think that they
did a lot of really cool shit.
Like the town is super neat. Ijust didn't like the main
character that much. So it wasreally hard for me to live in
that world with him. But thoselines that you mentioned, I
remember that communion one verywell. I just be like, Oh my god,
what? The daughter was reallygetting in there. I like I like

(01:07:45):
where the movie goes a lot.

Kelly (01:07:51):
Yeah, I won't say that.
His character is hard to like,but he's a he's a complex
individual. And there Yes. Andthings that he does that you're
like, why would you do that? Butthen that made me go because
some people do that sometimes.
Yeah, nobody's nobody's great.

Eric (01:08:08):
My credit Roy Schrader.

Kelly (01:08:12):
I think that that he owes a lot to his character a lot of
his character to Roy shaderthough. There's an in this
script I think owes a lot tojobs. I feel like he really
wanted to kind of make that kindof movie. Yeah,

Vanessa (01:08:23):
I do think that the story is super good. Super,
super good story for sure.

Eric (01:08:28):
Sure. We just lightning round a few months or something.
But

Kelly (01:08:32):
yeah, let's see what what I got one.

Eric (01:08:35):
I thought for sure was going to be in my top five in
February. But is not. I thinkcolor. I have a dark

Kelly (01:08:43):
color out of space.

Vanessa (01:08:45):
I was I yeah, it's funny, because I keep forgetting
that was this year.

Eric (01:08:48):
Yeah, technically it was this year.

Kelly (01:08:50):
I think that I thought we counted it in our last year.

Eric (01:08:53):
We did the same thing that we've mentioned it it's like but
technically is gonna be a 2020movie. So it shouldn't be on our
core. And I look back on if ithad if we hadn't seen in 2019 it
was just 2028 probably it wouldbe on my I really liked it but
it would not have been in my topfive. Yeah.

Vanessa (01:09:15):
Something that was so close to being my number five,
it was unreal. Um, host theshutter film with a bunch of
people hanging out on a chat anddoing a live seance that goes
terribly wrong just is just soso well. Done.

Eric (01:09:36):
I would say that is two thirds, like done this. This I
thought was interesting too, anda lot of fun. And it did that
thing. We talked somewhat withthe Mandalorian about where it
was like a 15 minute movie. Itwas short.

Vanessa (01:09:49):
Yeah, it was very short and but which was good. Yeah, it
was the length that needed to beI felt like and I just really
liked what they did. I mean it'sa COVID film. For sure. Like It
was made during COVID. And theylet you know that

Kelly (01:10:03):
Yeah, I will say those guys were on top of shit not
only getting something out thisquickly, but also tying it into
zoom which is something thatcrazy very few of us know about
at the beginning of this noweverybody is

Vanessa (01:10:17):
anyone who had stock in zoom.

Kelly (01:10:19):
Wow. Well, you knew that underwater was going to be on my
list and that's that push back.
Come to daddy with Elijah Wood.
I still want to see that one.
Remember you're talking about itbut haven't seen it. I love it.
It starts out as a ghost storyand ends up as something way
weirder.

Eric (01:10:39):
Got a VFW?

Kelly (01:10:41):
That's right. That's on my list here too.

Eric (01:10:44):
That would have been close, but no, just but it's a
lot of fun. It just didn't stickwith me like some of the other
ones did but it's definitelywell worth watching and a lot of
fun. And vast is the night theAmazon

Kelly (01:10:56):
that is shirtless to Yeah, yeah. You saw that one.
That was the one with all theradio radio thing. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. I think is thatamazing camera shot that goes
out of town. Yeah.

Vanessa (01:11:09):
Geez. Yeah, it's such such good camera work. And I
love the dialogue. It's supersnappy. The characters are
really fun. It reminds me a lotof Amy Sherman Palladino his
work. But the ending wasn't myfavorite. So that's that's what
made it not. I felt like theyran out of ideas of what they
wanted to do. Which wasunfortunate.

Kelly (01:11:30):
I like the ending because it's very lovecraftian. Yeah.
Basically as a sense of dread.
Yeah. At the end instead ofwinding up anything or a happy
ending or anything. Oh, we'renothing.

Vanessa (01:11:48):
Yeah, basically, basically.

Kelly (01:11:51):
This one I think on any normal year would have been very
close to my number one. TheInvisible Man.

Unknown (01:11:57):
Yeah. Sam.

Eric (01:11:59):
Yeah. Incredibly, well done. incredibly smart, and
interesting. And technically,sound.

Kelly (01:12:08):
Yeah, big, big budget horror. This made me wonder if I
think that our attention wouldbe split. along a lot of other
movies that actually made it tothe theater this year. Not just
horror, but you know, I can'tbelieve I didn't get my Fast and
Furious film. And you know, shitlike that. I think that the

(01:12:30):
pandemic allowed for a lot ofthese smaller movies to release
because these gigantic movieswere holding back to see if they
could somehow get a theatricalslightly Top Gun and the

Eric (01:12:42):
isn't there a Mission Impossible movie or? Well,
they're

Kelly (01:12:45):
filming Mission Impossible. Yeah, Tom Cruise is
yelling. Oh, everybody.

Vanessa (01:12:52):
Be healthy onset.
Apparently.

Eric (01:12:54):
Another fun one. Maybe they're vampires versus the
Bronx.

Kelly (01:12:58):
Oh, that was fun.

Vanessa (01:12:59):
I actually forgot about that one.

Eric (01:13:01):
Yeah, that was the I liked it. But it is kind of
forgettable. Unless you're, Idon't know if you're eight or
nine. It's probably gonna loveit until you're 45 and watch it
again. Go. Okay, it's fun.

Kelly (01:13:14):
I remember I think I think it dropped on Halloween or
something like that. It was aperfect little Halloween. No.

Vanessa (01:13:22):
Mine. Another one that I really liked that I only saw
recently, but was probably thenumber one box office for the US
or somewhere? I don't know. 10it ever did see. I

Eric (01:13:33):
haven't seen that one.
Yeah,

Kelly (01:13:35):
I don't know why I haven't seen. It's available to
me now. Like,

Vanessa (01:13:39):
I thought, you know, I thought that was going to be the
film that was going to be thefirst thing I'd seen cinemas
when we were allowed back in.
And obviously that justeverything took longer. I went
ahead and checked it out. Andit's a really fun mental puzzle.
That's what I like the mostabout it is I wouldn't say it
like blew me away. It'sdefinitely not the best Chris
Nolan film. But it's still aChris Nolan film, and there's a

(01:14:03):
lot going on in it and it's veryrewatchable so I need to watch
it another like two or threetimes and I'm not even kidding.
But like not in a painful way ina Oh, I my brain is very
interested in this kind of way.
So

Kelly (01:14:19):
yeah, I get a bite the bullet on that one. I don't know
why I don't know why I haven't

Vanessa (01:14:23):
it's I would say like I think a lot of people were
extreme in their opinions of itof it either being very good or
very bad. I really think that ithas. It has its issues for sure.
But it's totally worth checkingout.

Eric (01:14:36):
I know kind of why mine why and it's a dumb reason.
Nolan just kind of sticks in mycraw a little bit. It's that he
seemed to poopoo anything thatwasn't shot on film as be worth
his time. It's like no,

Vanessa (01:14:52):
it's it's hard. I mean, like he's definitely got a
personality along those lines.
He shows up on all of his setsin like a full suit. And
everything. I mean, he's, he'sdefinitely cool. He's got his
own thing going on. That's neverbothered me. But the thing that
does also stick in my crock rah,rah.

Eric (01:15:11):
I don't know if that's from but I know it's the same.

Vanessa (01:15:12):
It's very exciting. I like it. I got to figure out
what it means is his sounddesign is really troubling. The
m&e just swallows dialogue. So Idid actually watch tonight with
the subtitles on and thank God Idid. Wow, if I hadn't, I would
not have I mean, there were alot of people who complained
about this in the theater. Theyjust could not hear what people

(01:15:35):
were saying. And it's already avery difficult film to figure
out what's going on. So withoutthat dialogue, you're really
really screwed. But with thesubtitles, yeah, that worked for
me just fine by he started, hedefinitely did that in Dunkirk,
and I just wanted to murder him.
Because the music and effectswere so drowning out and
destroying about film for me. Sothat's I, that's my personal

(01:15:58):
issue with him.

Kelly (01:16:02):
Is this a soundtrack that has the Hans Zimmer honking
through?

Vanessa (01:16:07):
It does have a fair amount of sound wall to wall.
But it's not as irritating asthe law was, wasn't there like a
website or like a button thatsomebody made like a phone app
that you could just press thatwhenever you

Kelly (01:16:24):
need it?

Eric (01:16:27):
But I'll still see it. I just because that's it.

Unknown (01:16:31):
No, I

Vanessa (01:16:32):
mean, I think it's fair. And I've definitely had
similar moments where I'm like,screw you, buddy. Like I have a
really hard time with MichaelBay, because of such stories
I've heard and that's, you know,it was kind of maybe not fair.
But you know, I know that I likea lot of his films, but I just
think he's a horrible humanbeing. Yeah. So

Kelly (01:16:53):
what about uh, if I was making a feel good. Top Five. I
would have dropped scare me inthere.

Vanessa (01:17:00):
I thought it was really neat and super well acted, but
it wasn't like it didn't blow meaway. Okay.

Eric (01:17:06):
Yeah. I enjoyed it.

Kelly (01:17:07):
I like it a lot.

Vanessa (01:17:07):
Yeah, it was it had a lot of good in there. But I
think Yeah,

Eric (01:17:12):
my next cluster of sorry.
No, no. Okay. four films leap offaith possessor the hunt. And
one we haven't mentioned hishouse.

Vanessa (01:17:24):
Oh, sure. Yeah, his house which

Eric (01:17:27):
had problems, but I found the idea. Because the number one
complaint we always say abouthorror films is on our content
house movies. Like why don't youjust leave the house?

Unknown (01:17:37):
Yeah.

Eric (01:17:38):
This one made that really difficult to just leave the
house.

Vanessa (01:17:43):
And he tries to it's not like he does the thing that
you want people to do in horrorfilms of like, fight against the
issue and do the natural thingthat you yourself would do.

Eric (01:17:55):
Did you see this one?

Kelly (01:17:55):
I did not. But it has 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. Ooh,
it's quite good. But I havetheories Why?

Eric (01:18:04):
It's got good it's got some really good solid scares.
It's got some CGI problems inthe scares occasionally, but
that tends to not bother me toomuch. But I know people have
mentioned it so I thought Iwould. acne is pretty solid.
It's not it's good. I wouldn't.
doesn't fall like the changelingor anything like that. But it's
good. It's worth seeing.

Vanessa (01:18:27):
Um, a couple of final ones on my list. haunt. I don't
know if either of you guys endedup seeing that. It's like a
shutter film where they're gothrough a haunted house.

Kelly (01:18:37):
Yeah,

Vanessa (01:18:38):
like a fairground haunted house. Joe Bob. Oh,
yeah. Part of his.

Eric (01:18:43):
Where it's um, it's got some weird security they go
through.

Vanessa (01:18:48):
They leave their like cell phones and little bit.
Yeah.

Eric (01:18:51):
That one had a lot of brake press when it came out.
And then I watched it. That wasfun.

Vanessa (01:18:56):
I thought it was fun. I thought it was a neat idea and
very good for such a low budgetfilm. I think it's a first film
as well. Yeah, and really, Idon't know I I walked away
going, man, they did a greatjob. This is a hard topic to
pull off the fairgroundamusement attraction with the

(01:19:19):
ensemble and I liked a lot ofwhat they did in there. So that
was great. And then Enola HolmesI just have to give a shout out
to

Kelly (01:19:28):
that was such a fun phone keep forgetting about that. I do
want to watch out

Vanessa (01:19:31):
you should definitely check it out. It's it's just
especially if you enjoysomething like Sherlock. It's
nice to kind of get a morerounded viewpoint of that
universe. And just a fun FastFurious little film.

Kelly (01:19:47):
I got a couple of last ones Eric, you got some more
stuff. After um, I really likedthat film that you did not like
Vanessa the wretched about thewitch next door.

Vanessa (01:19:56):
Oh yeah, I didn't like I like that

Eric (01:19:58):
one. varium on my

Kelly (01:20:01):
Oh, I did not put their name I guess

Eric (01:20:04):
no one's gonna talk about on the bottom of it.

Vanessa (01:20:08):
I guess none of us are gonna talk about I'm thinking of
ending things. very divisive.
But yeah, gone. No, I

Kelly (01:20:15):
just I just liked that it was kind of a mix between well
wasn't even a mix. It wasbasically Friday night with a
witch instead of a vampire. Mmhmm.

Eric (01:20:24):
Yeah, pretty much.

Vanessa (01:20:26):
I liked the witch looks cool. Yeah, true. cool looking.

Kelly (01:20:30):
The witch parts were better than the Friday night
parts.

Vanessa (01:20:35):
Yeah, the Friday parts of the part. I didn't like.

Eric (01:20:38):
Sure. Let's see what else shoot off here real quick. Well,
I did like porno in the end ofthat. That was fun. I did to La
llorona the Spanish one. I

Vanessa (01:20:49):
just saw that the red

Eric (01:20:53):
one No.

Unknown (01:20:54):
Yeah.

Kelly (01:20:55):
Did you like it?

Vanessa (01:20:56):
I hate Yeah, I actually I just watched that. The other
day. It's so cool. Yeah. Becauseit's not it's like a horror film
that is wedged up against like akind of a crime drama,

Eric (01:21:08):
political thriller drama thing. Yeah.

Vanessa (01:21:11):
So you think you're you're shoved in one film.
That's the main film. And thenyou get like horror bashing its
head against it. And it's reallywell done, like a very well done
film.

Unknown (01:21:23):
Yeah.

Kelly (01:21:24):
I was I actually avoided it based on that. To give it a
chance.

Vanessa (01:21:29):
I think you should give it a try. I mean, I don't know.
You know, his taste better thanmaybe I shouldn't recommend or
not recommend. Actually,

Eric (01:21:35):
I think you'd know about 15 minutes in if it's gonna.
Yeah, or not. That sounds aboutright. And a couple strange
mentions here real quick onecalled Uncle peckerhead.

Kelly (01:21:46):
I've heard of this and have not seen it and

Eric (01:21:48):
not heard of that. It was a it would have been a cryptic
on film. But we weren't wedidn't do any features. Really
what we did one feature for thestreaming stuff, but it was a
band a no. Nobody knows aboutkind of band touring in a van
that somehow gets mixed up witha serial killer. who becomes

(01:22:09):
their roadie. They don't knowwhat he does initially. And it's
just a lot of fun. I was reallysurprised by how

Kelly (01:22:16):
much fun that film was.
Is that streaming somewhere?
Yeah,

Eric (01:22:19):
it's on a pretty sure it's Amazon or shutter. I'll check
that out. And the one br passthat out.

Kelly (01:22:26):
Yeah, put that on my list. I don't know if I can say
I enjoyed it. But as well done,but it was well done.

Eric (01:22:32):
And my final mention for the year is the gore scene of
the Year in Hunter Hunter.

Kelly (01:22:38):
I've got that on my list here.

Unknown (01:22:39):
Hmm.

Kelly (01:22:41):
That is a that is a creepy movie.

Eric (01:22:44):
Yeah. And I had no idea who the lead actor was until I
looked it up later on.

Kelly (01:22:50):
Right. Devin? So so far was Oh, yeah.

Vanessa (01:22:55):
Devin saw. Yeah.

Eric (01:22:58):
Brandon is unrecognizable in that role, at least for me.
Yeah.

Kelly (01:23:03):
And especially at the end

Vanessa (01:23:07):
you know, there were there were a bunch of films I
really wished that I had gottento see and have not yet and I
don't know if you guys managedto fit any of these end, but
they were on a lot of toplesslike, surely have not seen them.
I'm st mod and I never gotaround to she dies tomorrow. You
saw Sputnik she dies. Tomorrow'saggravating. Oh, okay. Got it.

(01:23:32):
And then extraordinary. Idesperately want to see, but
bakura is a big one for a lot ofpeople to back over. And it's
like an Australian. I don't evenknow. It's um, yeah, Australian
horror film. I'm not heard that.
It's it's like really top fivefor a lot of film reviewers.

Kelly (01:23:53):
I did love extraordinary.
But that's about the the womanwho is the drivers. Yeah. I have
a still use it in one of my day.
Okay. I really want to see thatone. But it's so it's very cute.
I would I would not put it on abest of horror list. Yeah.

Vanessa (01:24:13):
Yeah, these are I mean, I have so so many 2020 Films
left to see I it's so funny.
During 2020. I was like, I don'tknow what to watch. And I can't
even think of what to order formy mom on disk on Netflix. And
now I'm like, Oh, God, I have somany movies to check out. In a
good way.

Eric (01:24:31):
Yeah, good. Yeah.

Kelly (01:24:33):
I'll finish then with the vigil, which I thought was
pretty decent. It's a Jewishhorror film. And the, the
premise is that, I guess thatthere is a waiting period after
a person dies and somebody waitswith the body to you know, make

(01:24:54):
sure they get to heaven, Isuppose. And this kid is hired
to do it and it is a very scarynight. Oh

Vanessa (01:25:05):
yeah, like super fun.

Kelly (01:25:07):
And then just a couple of series that I just fucking love.
Sweet Home is on Netflix. And itis a Korean series about a kid
who moves into an apartmentcomplex. And then the what
appears that the complex hasgone to shit. But by Episode
Three, you realize that theentire world has gone to shit.

(01:25:28):
And there are just monsterseverywhere. And it's kind of
it's almost got a zombie feel toit not in the monster design,
but in the fact that people canget infected and they hide that
from other residents and stufflike that. And then they turn
into monsters, and I reallyenjoyed that one. But my big
favorite was Alison borderland.
Yes. You see that one, which isa mixture of lost and Battle

(01:25:51):
Royale. on Netflix, that is onNetflix. Yeah, I fucking loved
it. And don't want to forgetthat the grudge had a series at
the beginning of the year that Ithought was pretty good. Yeah.
Oh,

Vanessa (01:26:08):
that's a very great story.

Eric (01:26:11):
Yeah, one just yesterday called hashtag alive, which
starts off really good. It's aKorean film, and then just
becomes every other you've everseen. That was really
disappointing because thatopening 20 until really until he
finds the other person alive. Itwas like, this is really unique
and interesting. And then theyfind each other and it becomes a

(01:26:31):
zombie movie.

Vanessa (01:26:33):
You know, there was just so much good TV this year.
That mean during lockdown, Ijust felt really blessed. So
many options. Hashtag hashtagblessed. I mean, we all kind of
checked out, of course.
Mandalorian 300,000.

Kelly (01:26:50):
Dead, Vanessa.

Unknown (01:26:54):
No, I feel bad. I'm

Kelly (01:26:56):
glad that you feel blessed.

Vanessa (01:26:57):
Oh my god.

Eric (01:26:59):
I could go so dark right now, but I'll be nice.

Vanessa (01:27:05):
watchmen was really good. Um, lest we forget. It was
I know. This is not okay. It'skind of slipped through the
cracks. I think. Yeah, that wasa really fun

Kelly (01:27:18):
one until you smacked me in the face and said watch this.
And I loved it. I forgot allabout

Vanessa (01:27:25):
it girl who it's kind of like Carrie.

Eric (01:27:27):
Okay. Yeah, that was really good. I didn't see that
one. Yeah,

Vanessa (01:27:30):
very good. Um, Dev was this year. Oh,

Kelly (01:27:33):
I still have not watched.

Vanessa (01:27:38):
It was fun to watch and also very weird and kind of
Twilight Zone II. Boys seasontwo.

Eric (01:27:45):
Yeah, that was good.

Kelly (01:27:45):
How did I forget the boys?

Vanessa (01:27:47):
Right? So good. And my personal favorite. That has just
made my whole world so muchbetter. Lower decks. Star Trek
lower deck. So good. So good.
Did probably my second favoriteStar Trek series. Nothing can
ever be next gen But no, it isso good. It's just like so
lovingly well done.

Eric (01:28:11):
Obviously made by somebody who loves the hell out I forgot.
It's the guy from is it?

Vanessa (01:28:17):
Working brick and mortar mortar? Yeah,

Unknown (01:28:18):
I just

Eric (01:28:20):
love Star Trek.

Vanessa (01:28:21):
Yeah,

Eric (01:28:22):
all about it. They have seen all of this.

Vanessa (01:28:25):
They know deep cut.
There are deep cuts. There's inthe one of the last episodes,
there's a little flying robotthing. And it's I was like, why
does this look familiar? It's aprop that gets reused over and
over and over again in StarTrek. If you ever look up like
reused props. Oh, wow. I waslike, Oh my God, that's such a
deep guide.

Eric (01:28:44):
You guys like the carpet for trauma?

Vanessa (01:28:50):
What about you guys?
Were there any series that

Eric (01:28:53):
I didn't really write down any and you just named a whole
lot of I know, you know, shitsCreek was the one that but that
wasn't necessarily 22. That wasa 2020 phenomenon. May was the
20 show off for sure. I and Istill haven't made it that
raised by wolves. Oh, yeah. Thatwas green.

Kelly (01:29:09):
Yeah. I will say that the stand is going downhill very
quickly.

Vanessa (01:29:13):
Oh, no, I was I was about to start that.

Eric (01:29:18):
I think I've watched all but the last 10 minutes of the
third episode. And I'm yeah, solike, now we'll see

Kelly (01:29:27):
where this goes. I blame the nonlinear storytelling,
which is completely unnecessary.
And then ruins any kind ofreveals that would happen in the
story if you haven't read thestory, right?

Eric (01:29:39):
Yep. Yeah, that it's not it's not done particularly well,
because they just it justswitches scenes. Then you got
it. Oh, oh, now we're current.
It doesn't take long to fill it.
But the same time you got tosend that second or two going
What? Oh, okay. And now we'reback to the current Oh, this is
an old one. And yeah, theyshould have just told the damn

(01:29:59):
story. I agree. Hmm, that's ashowed up showed up at Boulder.
Like what Episode Two I think.

Kelly (01:30:06):
Let's start there in Episode 104 scene is them
clearing our bodies and I waslike, Okay, I can handle this as
a gimmick for the first episode,but I didn't realize it was
going to run through the series

Vanessa (01:30:21):
and trusting I so I was debating maybe trying to read
the book. And then books watchthe series. I like

Kelly (01:30:29):
how you're gonna try to read the book comprehension
skills or

Vanessa (01:30:35):
it's just a big book a big book. I mean, I mean, it's
for Game of Thrones, so I havefaith, but it's a big book.

Eric (01:30:43):
I mean, like it's a lot easier to follow the Game of
Thrones once you hit I read theGame of Thrones, the first three
novels Yeah, three freakingtimes. Well, third time I got to
the third one every time I I'mdone. Because it's so
convoluted. There are so manycharacters and it only gets
worse as you get in here aboutthese people. I'm just gonna
watch the show. Yeah.

Vanessa (01:31:02):
When you get to the onion night that I had a moment
of, do I want to carry on or amI done and I carried on? I'm
glad I did.

Eric (01:31:10):
I like the world but whose writings great those first two
novels are easily obviouslyreread of old but

Vanessa (01:31:18):
yeah, so maybe maybe that'll So between on the stand?
We've got the current thing. Theprevious miniseries and the
book, how would you approach thebooks?

Eric (01:31:28):
Oh, the original publication and there's I don't
know what they called.

Kelly (01:31:31):
It was a it was a a slim 893 page volume when it first
came out. And then they expandedit all the stuff that he had cut
out once he became the master ofhorror they put back in so there
is the stand complete and uncut,which has an extra character
that had been cut and an endingthat had been cut and all sorts

(01:31:55):
of extra stuff.

Vanessa (01:31:56):
Alright, so where am I supposed to start with this?

Kelly (01:31:57):
I think that the original stand sits fine on its own. And
I don't know how you are withlike audible or on tape and that
kind of stuff hands

Vanessa (01:32:08):
on who's reading that he's

Kelly (01:32:09):
got a really good reader.
And that book on tape isexcellent. Okay,

Vanessa (01:32:15):
so I do do a lot of long drives. Right. Stay tuned
from the podcast. Right go. AndI am getting a little tired of
NPR so

Unknown (01:32:23):
Oh, geez.

Vanessa (01:32:25):
I've listened to so much NPR. I know. It's mostly
Well,

Kelly (01:32:31):
I don't can't wait to see what they say next, just on the
edge of my toe. It's been

Vanessa (01:32:36):
rough year. Just like what who else who will have
died? Not so much the content ismore Hi,

Eric (01:32:41):
welcome to NPR. station here, we're gonna all break a
little bit and then we'll comeright back. And we'll be talking
about my edit the fuck out ofthat show. To calm

Kelly (01:32:52):
it down. Just

Eric (01:32:53):
edit that show toast so tightly that it's like, it's
okay for somebody and take abreath occasionally.

Vanessa (01:33:01):
And I will say though, if you listen to it late at
night, the hate switch to thisreally adorable Canadian show
where they talk about likeCanadian issues and they're
like, This man wandered down theriverbank for a few days on a
floatation device. Let's let'sbring you my name. Or this woman
went no joke. One of them wasthis woman has a plant store

(01:33:23):
called Mary Jane and has now gotthe wrong kind of business
people coming in. How do youdeal with this? You know, 80
year old lady. Like theirstories are so good.

Eric (01:33:34):
I love it. It's legal now.
So I am making so much moreBobby.

Vanessa (01:33:39):
Just switch it around switch around. Yeah, no, it's so
there are these little gems inthere. And if you happen to
catch them, I mean, that's how Ilearned about things like the
Morph and just little stuff inthere that you're like, oh my
god and radiolab which I'm kindof obsessed with now. Yeah,
sure.

Kelly (01:33:55):
riveting stuff. All right. I feel like we've spoken
for far too long. We

Unknown (01:33:59):
have we

Eric (01:34:00):
have even still we're like 20 minutes shy of the Oh, tell

Kelly (01:34:03):
us more about your NPR episode.

Vanessa (01:34:07):
I'm sorry, but I will say thank you guys so much for
sticking with us through 2020listeners. Yeah,

Eric (01:34:14):
there's a lot It was a weird for podcasting because a
lot of podcasts listeningdropped off significantly,
especially for first couplemonths. But podcasts being
created. exploded. Yeah, we usebuzzsprout. And they do a
podcast where they of course,they talk about podcasting. At

(01:34:34):
the beginning of the year theirtheir YouTube channel had 5000
listeners. their YouTube channelnow has over 50,000 Wow. growth
in one year. Yeah, there's a lotof new podcasts out there. So
thank you for sticking with usand enjoy what we're doing.
Yeah, we

Kelly (01:34:55):
understand you don't have an hour commute to work anymore
because you don't have a job.
Appreciate you at leastcontinuing to hit that subscribe
button whether you're listeningor not.

Vanessa (01:35:04):
Yes, thumbs up subscribe. Five Star with a
horrible film for Eric to watch.
It's been a while bring thathome bring it Oh, absolutely.
Andrew tunes. And we had to doour pandemic episodes where
there was a couple of timeswhere either I felt sick or just
we weren't going to be in thesame room so much. Yeah, so

Kelly (01:35:26):
yeah, we a little, a little, twice weekly. For fun,

Vanessa (01:35:33):
totally different, you know, rolling with the punches.
No, I can't wait till you guysare vaccinated, and I'm
vaccinated and we can just hangout and not ever feel guilty
about not getting vaccinated.

Kelly (01:35:46):
Okay, nevermind. Well, that's fine chip in my arm.
Well,

Eric (01:35:49):
I'll just carry my phone.
spare the chip,

Vanessa (01:35:52):
am I the only one who's gonna be vaccinated? Okay,

Kelly (01:35:56):
I imagine we'll all be forced to be vaccinated. labeled
as zombies of the state.

Vanessa (01:36:01):
Well, yes. Okay. That's where it's, I don't even want to
get into it. But I have one bestfriend who said surprisingly,
she get vaccinated. I wasworried that she wasn't. And the
other one, even moresurprisingly, who said she would
not and I was like, I don't?
What would you

Eric (01:36:19):
say anyways?

Vanessa (01:36:21):
The thing I've heard is a lot of people saying it
happened too quick. It was madetoo quickly. And I think having
now listened to many NPRsponsored broadcasts about the
science behind it, and how itwas done. And the the reason why
it is so fast, and the guy whois responsible for most of the
inoculations that exist onplanet earth, and why we're

(01:36:43):
using his science to get wherewe're now at. It's I was like,
okay, cool, I'm fine. Just giveme it. And I'm allergic to
everything. So if I'm gonna getit, and possibly die, then
y'all, I can't even have eggs,like and what's in a vaccine is
so

Kelly (01:37:03):
well, you guys, go ahead, get your vaccine. I have rights.

Vanessa (01:37:07):
It's fine if we're vaccinated, but just to two
thirds. Does that get huge herdimmunity? If you and I

Kelly (01:37:16):
is the lamest herd in this room,

Vanessa (01:37:21):
we're responsible for the greater good.

Eric (01:37:23):
There you go.

Vanessa (01:37:24):
Okay. And then for that,

Kelly (01:37:27):
okay, so as usual, thank you to all the people who are
liking sharing us. topic. Oh,shit, Whose is it? My oh, my
God, I thank God.

Eric (01:37:41):
For our next episode, it's my turn to pick a topic. We're
back to normal talking. Andwhich I remembered about two
hours ago.

Vanessa (01:37:55):
I've been stewing on it this whole time. That's right.
Well, I've

Eric (01:37:57):
got kind of a weird one.
So we'll see how this plays. Iwant you guys to come up with a
great movie that you reallyenjoy. Genre specific, of
course, our genre I mean, from adirector you've never talked
about on this podcast before.

Kelly (01:38:13):
I'm talking about the fall shit.

Vanessa (01:38:17):
No one's talked about john Carpenter yet. No one.

Eric (01:38:20):
Except for the three people here.

Kelly (01:38:23):
ad nauseum. Okay, all right, a genre film from it. I
mean, it doesn't have to be afamous director. It could be
just any film that we haven'thad. That might be

Eric (01:38:34):
challenging. something you'd like to it's got to be
like a film you like. Sotheoretically, something you
already know about? Oh, but youjust haven't talked about
anything by that particulardirector.

Vanessa (01:38:45):
Oh, my gosh, okay. Huh.
Yeah, this is gonna beinteresting.

Unknown (01:38:50):
Okay. Can I talk about john Carpenter?

Vanessa (01:38:53):
I mean, sure.

Unknown (01:38:57):
Huh, yeah, I

Vanessa (01:38:58):
think I think I might no one, which is exciting. Yeah,
awesome. Okay, well, I'm stoked.
We get to go back to our normalthing.

Kelly (01:39:08):
Me too. I already did my bla bla bla on the ending. So
that's what everybody's homeworkis. Hey, by the way anyone who's
listening to this and can thinkof a good movie I should pick go
ahead and send me Danny Ron. I'mlooking at you guys Bob. And we
will see you next week whenwe're talking I'm damn direct

(01:39:29):
however that works a direct Igot another than talked about
already

Eric (01:39:32):
got another title problem for you. They're in the shadow

Vanessa (01:39:35):
in the shadow right now. Right.

Kelly (01:39:41):
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