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Strange Aeons. Welcome StrangeAeons radio. That's Eric over
there. Hello, that's been s overthere. Good day. Hey, guys, you
know, we've talked off and onabout like putting together some
kind of Patreon thing. Yeah,it's never really kind of gel
because I always feel just alittle weird asking people to
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pay a certain amount of moneyand then you know, they get into
the Patreon or something,they're like, this really worth
it. And yeah, so I thought thatI would suggest, and let's see
how you feel about it. Let's seehow the listeners feel about it.
Kind of a value for value modelin that a lot of people are
doing things for us. Ron forback, Danny willeford are
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constantly liking sharing thepost Bob, all those guys that
are regulars. And and they'rethey're spreading the word
that's value right there. Right?
I'm in almost constant contactwith Danny willeford. And he's
working on something that isreally cool that you guys are
gonna be like, what? And thelisteners are gonna be like,
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what? And there's a real valuein stuff like that. Sure. And
Vanessa, your friend Micah gaveus a really nice a generous
donation. Yeah. And I thoughtyou know what, I'm just going to
remind people, we have a virtualtip jar on our, on our website
page. And if, if you want tohelp us out in any way, whether
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it's liking and sharing whatevervalue you get out of this, you
can put back in and if you can'tdo anything, but like and share.
You got to know we appreciatethat. We appreciate that value.
Yeah, definitely.
If for some reason you feelcompelled to also throw money at
us. Well, hey, thank you.
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Yeah, we've got you know, one ofthe guys I don't think we
mentioned enough for sharing isalso Ryan, Ryan new, the crypto
con guy shares our stuff. Yeah,cuz I'm with you on the Patreon
there's I've joined over theyears, probably seven or eight,
I think I'm still with likethree of them. Because that
someone's gonna write this good.
If we're gonna do a Patreon. Iwant something really good.
Right? So if you want to, like,join in the tip jar, find out
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buy coffee, I think is one ofthe terms frequently used. and
toss and you know, it was fun tosee you weirdos do get a chance
if you get little monkeys hereto dance for you.
Yeah, absolutely. If there'ssome kind of donation involved,
please leave a message and we'llread it on the air. We'll make
fun of you. We'll do all of thatstuff. Because there are going
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to be some people who Thispodcast is free. And that's what
it's worth to them. I completelyunderstand that. I listened to a
lot of podcasts that I do notdonate a penny.
Yeah.
For whatever reason, thispodcast as much more value to
Danny Wilbert. And, but I wantto make it so that whatever you
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think the podcast is worth,that's what you can give us
whether it's your time, whetherit's your talent, whether you're
making jingles for us and stufflike that. All of that stuff is
worth something to us.
So tentative logos.
Yeah.
I think the only thing that Iwould miss from the Patreon that
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I it's funny because I don'teven it's not even the having a
consistent idea of people, youknow, sending us money. It's not
that that's important to me, butI like the idea that we have
extra content that people canunlock. Like, I'd like that. And
I wonder how we can incorporatethat into some kind of model
moving forward.
So I thought about that. And Idecided I don't like that. What
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if somebody can't afford to giveus money? You're gonna you're
gonna don't get this content.
That'swhat I mean is I wonder if
there's a way where if somebodylike Danny is doing something
really nice, we can just, youknow, be like, come on in to the
club. You are always welcomehere free.
of you know, sweat equity asopposed to
bright cash. Exactly, exactly.
Because I agree with you. Idon't like the idea that like I
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will often for for example, forthe Seattle International Film
Festival, for the last three orfour years I've donated time and
help them come up with like,just just do edits and do
assistance and putting togethertheir opening night montage. And
because of that, I often getkickbacks like, like tickets for
the opening night or whatever.
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The heck it is, because but Ican't afford that, or I haven't
at least in the past, I'm ableto afford that. But by giving
them my time and my energy, thenI get to participate in
something like that. And Iwonder if there's something we
can do that would allow peopleto either financially support us
or give us you know, if theyhappen to want to decide to do
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something like a really coollogo or a song or just say some
really cool stuff about usonline. You don't have to, but
if you do, we love it. You knowhow we can say we appreciate
that. And I also just lovespending time with you guys. So
I just want to make morecontent.
I'm about burned out on spendingtime with you guys. This is
really what I was trying to whywe're the only people you see
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how are you burnt out first, youknow, I got five other podcasts
on the week that you take thatkind of hurt.
So anyway, that that was mythought was, let's just put that
out in the air that weappreciate everything. And the
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Patreon thing, you know, we'llfigure something out. But I like
more the idea of making itinclusive to everyone. And you
you give us whatever you feelthis show is worth.
Yeah, I definitely like that.
And definitely want to say thatwe appreciate people it doesn't
matter if it's financial or orlike, like you said, like
services or kind words orwhatever. Like we it's all
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amazing. Absolutely. Yeah. Thefact that you guys listen,
that's amazing.
Oh my god, more than one.
Crazy. Everyone smile atsomebody like how many people
listen to you? And I'm like, Idon't want to know cuz it's
scary. But I love it. But it'sterrifying.
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It's not that many so yeah, notto be terrifying. Well, the big
news course this week was theSnider cut.
Sure. I have to confess. I hadevery intention of seeing it
before today. And I have not yetmanaged to do it. And so yeah,
I was the same. Same aboutprobably watch this. You can
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explain part of the reason withwhen we get around to my first
one, but I'm curious to hearwhat you thought of the epic
four hour.
Yeah, what was the experiencefor you?
Here's the thing. I saw justSweden's Justice League in the
theater. And I walked out and Iwas like, Yeah, sure. Now I've
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watched all four hours and twominutes of Zack Snyder's and I
can objectively see that it ismuch better. But at the end, I
still was like, yeah,that's kind of my assumption.
But in IMAX,I say my fun weirdness about the
whole thing about the wholesituation is for years, Zack
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Snyder was the whipping boy ofnerds online and then suddenly
know he's going to be the saviorof this movies like, what do you
do now? Like 300, and watchmenand all the other stuff, he's
done that. Now there's stillsuffering, although there is
there's a book out, and thiswhole thing, talking about what
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he went through and how it wasdone. If it's any good, I be
curious to read that, like anovel or a book or something.
Know, like a story of whathappened.
I think I spent about enoughtime on this as I need to,
you probably know a lot moreabout it than I do.
I so I didn't realize the reasonwhy he's stepped away from
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Justice League was that hisdaughter died
or committed suicide.
Holy crap. Yeah. That'sharrowing. I mean, because I was
trying to work out why the hellJoss Whedon was behind it. And
then I, you know, just means somuch highlighted as of recent
times because of his grossness.
And so I was like, why, why? Whyis this all happening? And then
why is Snyder now getting itback? Was he fired? What went
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on? And so I can, I mean, I, itprobably has nothing to do with
it. But I wonder if people arejust like, oh, he went through
something, and maybe we shouldgive him a second chance, but
I'm probably too human. Well,here's the weird thing. He said,
at one point, that he hadbasically a finished version,
his gut of the film sitting onhis computer without special
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effects. Yeah. And that goteverybody thinking right. Now, I
doubt very much that what we'reseeing is still the Snider cut,
because this is more like theSnyder Mulligan. Or, you know,
it's over, you know, and he wentin reshot a ton of stuff. So
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that means he didn't use justthe stuff that was on his Yes,
computer. Some of it I thoughtwas very good. Some of it looked
like a video game. Oh, like thethe effects were bad enough that
I was like, Wow, this looks likea video game cutscene. Up, down,
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up, down.
Right Left, right.
Yeah, that's really too bad tohear. And I wonder. I don't
know, I was nervous about thefact that it's shot for IMAX.
And we're all going to watch iton our flat screens that are,
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you know, not quite 16 by nineaspect ratio to at least two I
started watching on HBO and it'sa box. Yeah,
so Exactly. So it's a box. So Iwonder if we're missing a lot of
the experience by watching it athome, when it should, if we are
going to really give this asecond chance should have been
seen in the theater.
I mean, maybe back in the olddays when we had a theater at
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20. But everybody's got a 50inch TV minimum. And it looks
fine. Trust me.
Okay. All right. Well, that'sgood to hear. I mean, because
that was my big concern was justlike, I know that when I saw the
Avengers it in the theater. Andthen when I saw it walking
through Costco, on theirscreens, I felt like one looked
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a lot stupider than the other. Ijust wonder if that carries
across? Well, I guess we'll findout probably tonight, ideally,
and then I couldn't say anythingat all.
Sit down for four hours andwatch this thing.
Yeah, we gotta hurry this showup. So I can get back over
there. I'm gonna make popcorn.
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I didn't feel like my attentionwas drifting during any of the
time. But I did think to myself,at the end of it, I was like,
they could have cut this down toabout two and a half hours.
Great movie.
So she is I mean, they probablyshould. I don't know. I saw
Justice League on an airplane.
So my expectations are at zero.
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I was like, This movie is kindof funny. And that was the end
of it. I have no I have nothingon no hens in the game. What is
the saying? I have no.
No dogs in the game. No dogs andthe dogs in the fight
and the fight? Yeah, there wego. I have no I don't care, but
I'm excited to watch it becauseI have nothing else going on in
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my life. Well,there you go. Well, that's nice.
Watch something I did.
I did actually watch somethingotherwise. And I watched the
other big thing that everybodywill have seen. Hopefully Falcon
and Winter Soldier.
I could see that legit See that?
Yeah.
So um, I personally was sort oflike, that's fine. I mean, I
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like it should be fun. I'mexcited about that. But I wasn't
like,blown away. It hit me sort of
like Wanda. Wanda vision didwhere it's like, okay, I this
hopefully this is goingsomewhere. Yeah, it's like,
Okay, cool. Here are some coolaction. Right.
I think I feel like there's notlike the interesting mystery
that I was getting from onedivision. So I think that that's
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the part where I'm like, we'renot even to the second act yet.
Because we're still introducingcharacters and ideas. And
there's been no point of noreturn that's happened yet. So
we're still in the setup phase.
And I think I just need to know,like, why I'm there. And what,
what like, are they obviouslythey're gonna team up at some
point. So like, when is thatgonna happen? So just stuff like
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that, that I'm just not soldyet. That doesn't mean it's not
good. It seems good. I justthere's no story to me yet.
I love to see that you guysloved Wanda right off the bat.
And I was like, Man, you guys.
This. Also keep in mind, myfavorite Marvel movie is the
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Captain America Winter Soldier.
Sure, sir. feels the way that Iwant a lot of superhero films to
feel like, you know, verygrounded in real world. And
there's these people who can do,you know, extra special things.
I like the idea that they'rebringing up with this group of
people who thought things werebetter during the Blip. And I
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think that had to be addressed.
Because when you bring backseveral billion people, that's
going to cause huge problems.
Yeah. So like that being finallyaddressed. And I just really
like Anthony Mackie as an actor.
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Yeah. And I don't know there'ssomething very charismatic about
him. I can't take my eyes offhim.
is Anthony Mackie, the guy whoplays Winter Soldier or is the
Falcon. Yeah, no, he'sincredible. And I really I did
enjoy. I do like the blimp stuffa lot. I really enjoyed the bit
where they had the bank scenewhere they're trying to get a
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loan and these like you have nohistory for the last five years
of like, employed There are noins and outs. And it's like,
yeah, no wonder, like, what thefuck?
And then he still wants toselfie with them.
But are you serious? He reallywanted us to hate him. They
really wanted us to hate thatguy.
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But yeah, I think it looks likeit's going to be good. Yeah, I
think it was more just, itstarted off with such a bang.
That opening scene is so freakincool. Yeah, that was great. And
establishing why the Falconreally matters as a hero was
great, because bukkit alreadygotten that. They've gotten that
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out quite thoroughly. I felt theFalcon although he was through
the Avengers, Captain Americaand the Falcon was one of my
favorite comics when I was akid. So I didn't feel they yet
developed him well enough,right, which is what I like
about this.
Yeah. And not taking up thatmantle is really neat. I'm very
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compelled by that element, forsure. Because it's like, okay,
he has to go through some kindof journey to feel like he's
worthy of this right? positionthat's been imparted upon him.
And then speaking of taking upthe mantle, we know Kurt Russell
son is a very handsome dude. Butwhen he walked out in the
Captain America uniform, I waslike, Who is this old man? That
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guy was Wyatt Russell. Yeah. Oh,he looks super goofy.
Yeah, like, well, they needed todo something else with the
fitting of that helooked real bad. Yeah, I was
like, Man, you look, this is thething that's going to inspire
the nation. At first,I thought, oh, they're doing
this almost like to make us hatehim because it looks funny. But
then I realized it was WyattRussell. And I'm like, wait,
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that guy's super handsome. Buthe just didn't get this helmet
right for him.
Or they just want us to hatethis person immediately. Right?
squish his face.
Yeah, make his make his noselook very odd.
Well, I must say part of thereason I did not watch the
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Justice League movie was I foundmyself going down a massive Abel
Ferrara hole. No, I was Ithought I'd seen the driller
killer. But I'm like, I'm notsure if I did. Or if I because
there's a couple movies calledthere's driller killer, and
there's the driller killer,which is his. I was like, Well,
I'm gonna watch it again. Seewhat it's like. And I know I've
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seen it before. But I'm watch isgone. I have a very, very
different view of this film now.
And it blew me away. Like, thisis deep, dark, nasty New York.
Late 70s. About as dark as NewYork ever gets on screen. And
wow.
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Yeah, oddly naturalistic. Which,as I was looking further, I
found out why was that theybasically, is doing an interview
with him because this wasthrough arrow. So of course,
I've got a bunch of extras. SoI'm watching an extra. And he's
talking about Yeah, we reallydidn't do scripts. We pretended
to write a script, so we couldgive it to the investors and
then we never really used it.
Wow. In the last couple ofweeks, I watched driller killer,
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Miss 45 king in New York, andthe addiction. And they're all
good.
Is Ms. 45 one that I will love.
I've always thought it might bebut it almost seems too sleazy
for me.
No, no, it's it's, it's not assleazy as the driller killer.
Oh, okay. It's a different kindof sleazy. But you know how most
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rape revenge movies, her focusreally sick in the beginning?
Yeah, I spit on your grave andthings like that. This has some
harsh scenes right at thebeginning, and where she goes
from it. And what it does toher, and the performance is
incredible. And the way shereacts, and the way she gets the
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way she changes to getvengeance. It's not about the
people that attacked her. It'sjust all men. So Wow. But
because her character can'tspeak. So that adds an
interesting element. So yeah, Ithought it was it was also one
after I started watching,obviously, this one too.
Is this is this all on your newarrow streaming channel or
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something?
I don't care in New York mighthave been on something else, but
I'm pretty sure Miss 45 anddriller killer were both arrow
and the addiction was the lastone I watched was probably prime
or shutter, because that's apretty big movie, and we're
talking about Lily Taylor at EdFalco, Christopher Walken. And
Christopher Walken has one ofthose Glengarry Glen Ross scenes
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like Alec Baldwin, or he's inone scene in the movie,
basically, but he owns thefrickin screen. And Lily Taylor
is astounding. Oh, and herperformance is just ridiculous.
So is a forgot her name but thelady Miss 45 is crazy. Good and
Table actually plays the drillerkiller that didn't know that
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weird. Love this addiction is alittle more already shot in
black and white. It's reallyviolent, which might have been
what part of the reason youwonder black and white because
even by the other films Iwatched this like damn, has this
line to show you the deepness ofit. existence is the search for
release from our habit. And ourhabit is the only release we can
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find. Like, how nihilistic isheld, but as soon as the fault
film but yeah, I'm taking NewYork. Fantastic Film,
Christopher Walken. Oh, you'rethe king.
Is the addiction the the vampireone? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I don't
think I've seen that either.
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Yeah, I was surprised. I lookedthis stuff up. And I thought,
oh, check out his movies. He'sdone that. 50 it's got like 50
direct credits, a lot of musicvideos are still like, so. Okay,
because he's done a lot. Stillworking. Now. That was my giant
rabbit hole acouple weeks at home? Yeah. Uh,
well, I found something verycool on Netflix. It just came
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up. Peter rollick, the writerrecommended the Block Island
Sound. And it is cool andcreepy. It's about a guy who is
taking care of his father orsomething happened to his
father, when he was out fishingon his fishing boat. And he
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hasn't been the same sense. Andhe's sleepwalking and he's
sometimes taking the boat out atnight. And then one night, he
disappears. And the sun is surethat somebody like attacked him
while he was on the boat. So thesun serves doing his own search
and investigation. And he goesout on the boat one night, and
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starts doing the same thing thathis dad was doing. So all of he
starts sleepwalking and all thisstuff, and it feels very, it's
got some, like lovecraftianelements, but it's not the it's
not the small town by the seapart. It's the kind of cosmic
horror of it all. And I really,I really liked it. And I really
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loved the ending. Nice. So theBlock Island Sound
sounds awesome. But also, ifit's aliens, I don't think I can
do it.
I would destroy me and I'd neversleep again. What if I actually
take a boat out and then I endup becoming abducted. And then I
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do it every night, becausethat's the call that they have,
for me their siren song.
I'm sure that's not the plot.
But anyway. So um, you know,like, I've seen a couple things,
nothing crazy exciting to talkabout. But something that I did
do, which was prettyinteresting. A friend of mine
messaged me a couple months agoand was like, hey, so I just
finished this game. And I have afree pass for somebody to play
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the second time with me. Andit's one of those kind of
narration games where you try tolike make decisions and you
think you're making the rightone, but you're probably just
gonna kill everybody involved.
So it's a horror game. It's partof something called the dark
pictures, which have led to aseries of little games, little
stories, and this one is calledlittle hope, and is starring
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Will Poulter, which you guysmight remember from midsommar.
He's like that irritating. Kindof Camaro that down. I know, I
know, irritating for that movie.
Anybody? Um, he's kind of good.
Oh, God, I can't even describefrom the original pack like her
boyfriend. One of ourboyfriends,
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boyfriends friends. Yeah,yeah. That narrows it down
because they were all annoying.
Yes. I'm not a smart one. But Idon't know if he was a druggie
one. There are a lot of annoyingirritating guys. Yeah. But no,
it was a super fun, creepy,interesting game with a couple
of badly written characters thatI was like, Oh, no, because
you're switching between playingdifferent characters and try not
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to get them killed. And I goteveryone killed except for one
person by the end. So that wasawesome.
How do you play it? What are youplaying?
So I was playing on PlayStationfour, I believe it's available
for a few platforms. But um, theway that I played it is you kind
of link up with your otherfriends accounts. And then each
of you takes a character andyou're kind of going through
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interactions. So they do a lotof these cutscenes where it's
like okay, the bus crashes. Nowyou have some people talking
about who they are, why they'rethere, what's up with the bus
and then it shows you threedifferent options of things to
say, and you kind of selectedbut on your friends line. all
they see is this person lookingkind of dumb off into the
distance and then turning andgoing. I have an idea how about
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we do blank. You have yourheadphone hooked up into your
controller so I could hear myfriend just kind of laughing at
me. Like, you look so stupid,right? And vice versa. But it's
it's really fun because thenyou're switching between
different characters and yourdecisions are affecting them and
theirs are affecting yours. Soit was just a really interesting
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narrative experience as far aslike horror games go,
that sounds cool. Yeah, it wasthe name again.
It's called the little hopetakes place across three
different time periods. It hasto do with kind of the Salem
Witch Trials meets the 1970smeets current era. So yeah, bus
drives into some fog has anissue it pops up.
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on his head pops up littlegirl pops up a creepy little
girl pops up and they have to bererouted to a town called little
hope of which there are strangethings occurred a wonderful town
to live in. Wheredo you live? little hope? Yes,
definitely got a mindset or anactual play.
Spoiler alert. It'sinteresting. You had mentioned
video games, because the otherone I was going to talk about
was a documentary watched on aparamount plus console wars. Oh,
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which is the story of Nintendoversus Sega?
Oh, sure. I remember those days.
It's really good. bizarrelyinteresting.
Yeah. Because it was almost likeyou had a personality type. Like
if you were a Sega kid, you werelike, an edgy cool, or you want
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it to be or you want it to bedifferent, not of the norm. But
if you're an LDS kid, then it'slike you're kind of part of this
underground site guys that'soccurring. Well,
they were. They looked atNintendo. What Sega did is they
looked at Nintendo and said,we're gonna make them look like
they're for your little brother.
Yeah. Well, Sega is for youknow, you.
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My older brother has the Sega.
Absolutely. Oh, my God. Yeah.
And it did have a really shortit felt like forever because I
was a kid. But it did have ashort life time because I think
we ended up with like eightgames where it felt like a lot
at the time.
Well, you know, they're stillaround and that Sonic still a
character and all the stuffthere but you don't buy a Sega
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console anymore. Wow.
PlayStation or Xbox is about it.
When does it end? Like what era?
does it stop? Kind of the story?
I think it's almost all in the90s except for like, now pre
talk where they talked aboutNintendo coming up and then. So
it's a it basically covers thatrise and fall. And what happened
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in tendo. At that point,that sounds amazing. I
definitely watch that.
That does sound cool. Okay,guys, how about we take a break,
but just before we do that, Iwant to remind everybody if
you're listening on release day,which is Thursday, tomorrow is
the premiere of invincible onAmazon. Oh, that's
right. Holy shit. I forgot aboutthat.
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Oh, yeah.
I don't think I even know whatthis is.
invincible. The comic book isnow an animated series coming on
prime the first three episodesrelease on Friday.
Oh, cool. That's awesome. Yes.
Thank you for catching me up.
So let's take a break and thenwe are coming back. We are
talking. Vanessa, this was yourtopic. Spring has sprung
three has sprung and the birdsare calling the blossoms are
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falling upon the ground. So yes,cherry blossoms.
strong men Brian. Too strongshowed up with Irish spring.
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dealer is the very one to give astrong man fresh milk in these
green and white stripes on twodeodorants to get a man fresh
and clean. With a fine press.
That's why I use it toIrish sprayed with a strong man.
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We are back. Vanessa, this isyour topic. Why don't you start
us off?
Absolutely. So um, you guysmight even be a little surprised
that my pick this week. Springis coming. I was really excited
about the idea of having a talkabout spring related content.
films that might have some kindof theme around spring or
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rebirth or spring break orsomething like that. So long as
it gives you that spring feel.
So I went with the movie. Gofigure 2014 spring Look man,
you need to change up yourenvironment for the most
attractive person I've everseen. Go out with me tomorrow.
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No, no, no, no, no. Do youremember my name never told.
excuse. Learning love done thisSano del GLA del mundo de nada
French timbers. Louisiana'sItalian girl is really pretty,
so I only get to see youTonight, our nights together.
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The Secret jokes are kind ofweird sometimes. And I found
something that gives me somedoubt.
But really from around here,I'm half undiscovered signs of
confusing biochemistry, and somecrazy hormones
probably lie a lot. I'veactually
never lied to you. Even I'mstraight. So myself. I have a
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medical condition that comes andgoes, and it's a very long
story.
I gotta make sure you're thekind of crazy I can deal with
Italian women.
In my life,I don't think you're ready for
where this is going.
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comes around a couple of times,if you're lucky.
Life probably seems short nomatter what.
A fine film.
Yeah, I don't know. It's tricky.
Because I know what you think ofone or the other. Well, I
was I was definitely, you know,kind of almost undecided on
unless I kind of swung back andforth on that guy. synchronic
obviously, I did not enjoy Ilike parts of it just there's
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some parts I hate parts and loveand parts I hate. So it was
spring, I was like, you know,this is supposed to be one of
their best ones. It's definitelyone of the earliest ones and I
would just, I should check thisout. And I've been meaning to
watch it for years. So I'm justto hop right in Rotten Tomatoes
for this foam has it at 85% forcritics and 71%. For audience.
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The budget or sorry, the budgetis unknown. I could not for the
life of me find the budget forthe saying but box office
brought in $49,000 970.
So I guess 50 from what I'veheard, they might have made a
profit.
I don't think I don't think it'stheir first one. Their first
thisone. They did use a drone. They
did fly to Italy, they did get acouple of known names. And I
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don't mean like, like no nonames, but people who have acted
in things that were recognizableenough. So they probably lost at
least during having theirtheater run. But I think they
probably made it up in the backend because they are distributed
through Alamo Drafthouse Films.
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So, yeah, yeah, so they got areally good deal out there. The
director slash writer for thisis Justin Benson, who has nine
projects for directing under hisbelt, including some short
projects as low as well as VHS,viral bones, dorm, spring,
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endless synchronic. He did alittle bit of Twilight Zone. And
of course, the upcoming Monday,which is something we've talked
about before. His co directorAaron Morehead has 11 director
credits, most of the same stuffis Justin with but with a few
more shorts thrown in there,definitely a team. But he also
has 27 cinematographer credits,which I thought was pretty
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interesting. So he was also thecinematographer on synchronic.
And last spring, and lots andlots and lots of shorts. So he's
probably the one who's got somereally good eye for different
ideas of like, you know, how tothe camera about how to try
different things, has taken upthe reins on that for a couple
of projects, the cast, there's alot of like randos and this
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good, I'm just gonna say the twomeans. So Evan is our our lead
played by Lou Taylor, whopoussey spend in 47 things
including the 2019 AmericanHorror Story, who's in you, the
I believe that's the show onNetflix, Evil Dead, was kind of
his big one. And then he's donelots and lots and lots of TV
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small roles. The female lead inthis is Nadia hilker, who plays
the character of Louise, thebeautiful Italian girl who is
funny because she's actuallyGerman, well known is German
actress. However, she was alsoin 48 episodes, walking dead as
magnet, seven episodes of the100 and a fair amount of German
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film and TV work of which Icould not tell you what is
popular or not popular. Nonothing of it. So the plot is
pretty interesting. It has acouple of moments where I feel
like it's ways between genres.
I'm not 100% sure I love but Ialso do not dislike. So we start
off and this really sucks. DarkStark moment of Evan with his
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mother who's essentially on herlast breaths. In those breaths,
she gives this sort of reallyfunny sad joke about people at
funerals, I think and then shejust dies. And he's like, it's
so sad. And then you're like,Ah, okay, is it that kind of
fella has a real like beginningto midsummer feel where you're
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like, Oh,this is fucking rough. And then
he after the funeral, he goesdrinking with a friend. And it
kind of becomes a sort of like,I don't know off the cuff buddy
comedy for a beat. Or like, youknow, he's got some really good
witty dialogue going with hisbuddy, but then ends up in this
fight with this random guy getskicked out slash then fired,
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because apparently he works atthat same bar. And then that
night, he gets a hot girl slashwho's his friend to come over to
have sex with him. And then Idon't think she does. It's a
little unclear as to what goeson. But it's supposed to be kind
of funny, I think in parts of itare but parts of it. I was like,
ah, I don't know where this isgoing. Then it actually goes
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somewhere. So next day, he wakesup, she's gone. She's not in his
bed anymore. And a cop iswalking past the window. And he
realizes that they're after him,the guy who he beat up in the
bar, even though he deserved ithas obviously filed some kind of
charges or put out a complainton him. So he gets in a
rideshare and makes his way tothe airport to which he looks at
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his rideshare companion goes,where would you go? And they're
like, I don't know. And there'sthis really nice reveal where
you don't realize that he's inthe car with somebody. So it was
really lovely. And his fatherand him were always supposed to
take a trip to Italy and hadnever quite done it. So he
decides to go ahead and go toItaly. We then get the kind of
follow up buddy scene with somesome guys in a hostel. Some
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British dudes who try to hit onsome chicks and do some weed and
there do funny knowing guys. Sowe spend a little more time in
that world and that's fine. Andthey go down south they they
tell him Hey, do you want totake a car with us down south to
the, you know, different part ofItaly? This kind of coastal neat
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little coastal town? He goes,Yeah, why not? And when he's
there, when the first places hegoes to he sees this gorgeous
girl at the bar, who he'sgetting drinks for his friends
and kind of says hi to her andhas noticed her and she's like,
okay, you want to come have sexwith me? He's like, Oh, I mean,
I've got these drinks from my,my buddies there. And she's
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like, well, it's never never.
He's like, how would I take youout on a date tomorrow? And
she's like, No, he's like, butbut could we? But I mean, and
she's like, Are you gay? Do youwant to like sleep with those
guys instead. And all of asudden, this really witty,
lovely kind of connection isoccurring between these two
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characters. These two actorshave such a good just have such
great chemistry. They bounce offeach other so nicely, and their
dialogue just feels extremelyfluid. They their personalities
lineup, you completely believethem as far as just like working
off each other for theseridiculous lines and statements
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and jokes. But yeah, she turnshim down. And then he decides
he's going to stay in this townand try to move her. He gets a
job at a little farm, doingthings not quite sure what those
things are. But it seems likestuff that's hard for him to
figure out how to do. And hetries to pursue her and it's
very, very tiny little seasidetown. And he manages to get in a
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date with her and they're justgetting along so perfectly. But
she keeps kind of reiterating.
This is casual. This isn'tsomething for real. I'm not I
don't really date guys. She's asuper smart, clever scientists
woman who clearly is above hisstation, at least as far as
hearts go. Regardless, he findshimself falling in love with
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her. And it seems like maybe sheloves him too. But then I know
where she breaks it off withhim. And this is very confusing
to him because he's basicallylike moved to this weird
Southern Italian town gotten ajob. They hang out all their
spare time together. Theyclearly enjoy each other's
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company. They've been going tomuseums, doing all that kind of
europese stuff. And it justdoesn't make a lot of sense. The
only thing that we do know isthat she is being a little
suspicious. And there are thingslike he found a needle in her
bathroom and he's like, Is she adrug addict? And he asks her and
she says, No, no, no, it's, Ihave a thing. I have this thing.
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Don't worry about it. It's fine.
I'm on top of it. So he getsvery, very drunk. See some cops
is worried that I guess they'reafter him from the Small Town he
lives in like Philly orwhatever. Like,
throws himself into herapartment extremely drunk, gets
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in stands in the doorway andsees this monstrous like octopus
creature on the ground writhingaround. And next to it is a
needle. And he puts it togetherthat this strange beast is
actually her, sticks her withit, she becomes the beautiful
Italian woman that she wasmoments ago. And they talk it
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out. So what's going on withher. So she has this condition,
it's mythical levels of, youknow, almost like little mermaid
style. She's kind of got thisalmost curse. And every 20
years, I believe, she has tomate with somebody and get a new
set of DNA. And then she takesthat DNA and becomes like kind
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of a new person. And this way,she lives forever. She's
actually over 2000 years old.
And in fact, some of thepaintings that they've seen in a
local museum are just of her.
Now, she, it's reallyinteresting, because while this
seems to be almost like amythical curse, she's a woman of
science. And so she is of thedeep belief and understanding
that there's a reason for it.
And she's getting to the bottomof it, it has something to do
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with genetics, she's worked outher own gene sequencing, she
totally, you know, is on top ofit with these shots. But the
thing is, it just happens towork a little bit better. She
does something like say, killand eat the annoying American
guy whose walk through town, nothim, but a different dude, or a
live rabbit, or perhaps just anyother living creature that she
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can just turn up eat raw. Nowshe's a vegetarian. So that
makes it extra complicated. Andshe has a lot of guilt over it.
She has 24 hours until she'sgonna turn again, because
shockingly, they had unprotectedsex. So she has his DNA. She's
slowly losing the ability tocontrol her monster monstrous
ism monstrosity, and keepsaccidently trying to eat him. If
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she's not using her likeneedles. But he wanted to he
wants to do one of those finallike before sunrise before
sunset style evenings of let'sjust spend these last 24 hours
together and just walk thestreets of Italy and enjoy each
other's company. And, and maybeand she's like, okay, but when I
turn you gotta go. And he'slike, yeah, yeah, we'll see. And
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so she takes them to herhometown, where he learns a lot
more about the past her past herfamily's past and the myth
behind it. And it turns out thather mother made a decision
somewhere along the way, not toturn, so maybe there's something
that she can do about it. Andshe reveals that it's not that
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she chose it's that she was inlove. And when you're in love,
then this thing doesn't work. Soof course, it becomes even more
like little mermaid. It's like,Oh, my God, but if you're in
love, and everything will workout so beautifully. I won't
spoil the ending, the sun rises,and she may or may not turn into
something, and he or she may ormay not become human and decided
to have his child who knows.
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That's the great mystery. Butthis film, man, it was really
engaging. And it was veryunique. And I liked a lot about
it. First of all, unlikesynchronic, I know where things
are, I know what location I wasin at all times who was in the
room and most likely usually whythey were there. It was very
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thrilling. I understood therelationships of people. It was
greatto guess that you were saying
that guys a cinematographer,right. Yes, the same
cinematographer. Idon't know what happened. But I
do know that this was one of theearly uses of drone technology.
So they actually went ahead andgot a drone. And actually, I'll
get more into that in a secondhere. But they did try some
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really interesting, uniquecinematography, tricks that had
not yet been used or tried. Andmaybe that lends to them
thinking a little bit more aboutthe shots ahead of time then in
some chronic, I don't know, Ihave no idea. I don't know what
it is that made it so differentfor me. But it felt it felt more
thought through. That beingsaid, it also almost felt like
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this had a bit of improv. Itjust felt so off the cuff and
natural. I tried very, very,very hard to find out whether or
not it was improv, like if theydid a Blair Witch and they just
got little note cards and we'relike, talk about these things.
But out of all the interviews Iread nothing talked about it in
stupidly, both on Wikipedia andon IMDB, the trivia sections are
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super sparse for this movie. Idon't know why it's an indie
darling. It's done extremelywell. I don't know why you can't
find anything aside from likethese goofy dudes talking about
like, why spring is interesting.
And by the way, one of them hasnever fallen in love. So I don't
know why he's writing this shit.
But anyway that's okay.
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The The details on this. Like Isaid, there's just really good
little setups and payoffs. Likeat one point, we see him walking
through an alley and we hearthis cat like screaming in the
distance. And then the next day,we see that that cat's dead. And
we realized that she down theroad, we realize she's the one
who ate it. So there's justthese nice little setups,
there's a rabbit that she has ina cage in her room that two
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rabbits actually and she talksabout how you know, she rescued
them from a lab and whatever.
And of course, we're like, oh mygod, she's gonna end up eating
them. And later, we see a deadrabbit in the street. And he's
like, Huh, I wonder if this isperhaps the rabbit. There's just
a lot of thought that went intoit. Um, the monster for the most
part is pretty fucking freaky.
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It's very, it's not consistent.
It seems to change shape andidea, a fair amount. But it's
almost got this horrorlovecraftian strangeness to it.
Like, I do believe this ideathat it's working out her DNA,
what is supposed to be and howit's evolving. I like the use of
her strong belief in scienceover mysticism. I think that
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gives it a whole new interestinglevel. And it's about love.
Doesn't that doesn't thatdoesn't kind of fall apart,
though. She's so science based.
And yet, here's this thingthat's, you know, unless you
have this specific emotion,yeah, that can't be measured in
any way. And none of that tookyou out.
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I think. I think what I foundinteresting is that he was team
emotion, and she was teamscience. And because that of
that dynamic where he was like,but you just have to be in love,
like don't having to ever feltlove. And she was like, No, no,
no, no, I think it's her way oftrying to manage her situation.
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I think it makes a lot of sensethat if you had some horrible
thing going on, if you wereafflicted with some illness, or
what some people just like topull out textbooks and go, I'm
gonna figure this shit out. I'min control, I can work out my
own. I am in charge of theagency over my body. And I think
that's what she's doing. And inthe end, you know, we have this
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The thing I didn't like, whichwas cute, but annoying, is he's
like, But aren't you in lovenow, though? I've done these
things for you. What have youthink about these moments we've
shared together? Are we in lovenow, though? Like, it's really
desperate and sad. But I do likethis whole like dichotomy
they've got there. So it didn'treally fall apart for me in that
sense. I do think they didn'tneed to try to explain as much
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of the science asthey did, or even anyway, that
it was love that to that is thatwe could have put that together.
I think you're right. I actuallythink you're super right on
that. Also some of the CGI eventhough it's fun, some of its
just piss poor. Like real bad.
There's some moments where I'mlike, that's not a Wait, what a
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waste does guys like it's likethe size of a pencil in the top
half is like big and the bottomhalf is big. I'm like they were
just break off in the middle atthat point. I'm sorry, this is
no longer reasonable, like justgeometry. Um, yeah, I don't
know. And I do think that someof those scenes with the buddy
stuff didn't necessarily need tobe there. Those opening three
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scenes. I'm not mad about it,but it felt like a little off.
Like it just wasn't the rightramping into the film that I
got. And I liked the film I got.
Yeah. So overall, I think Ithink I really liked it. Um, the
fun trivia that I picked up,there's only two pieces that
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exist on IMDB was so let me readthis one out for you. Director
Justin Benson on the aerialdrone photography said we had a
very meticulous shortlist andhad a well thought out approach
to the photography of the movie.
And after all that was done ourfirst AC slash steadycam
operator, William Tanner, Samsoncame to us and said, hey, I've
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got this new new drone I bought,should I just bring it for the
production? Maybe we could useit. We knew immediately how that
would fit into our generalapproach the photography of the
movie, the photographerphotography should feel like an
omniscient presence. In themovie, it should feel very
subjective, almost like a thirdall powerful character. So we'll
came out with the drone andafter getting arrested with it
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at the Moscow airport, becausethey were thinking it was some
kind of piece of militaryequipment, and he was going to
assault Russia with it. We gotto use it. And any day the crew
was off. co directorcinematographer Aaron Morehead
and I would continue to shoot onSundays in Italy, we'd continue
shooting and that was when we dothe drone photography with we'll
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just grab as many shots as wecould experiment, experiment
with it, see how it would work,and almost everything we shot
with the drone made it into theEdit. It's one of those talking
points of the movie. It's prettycool. It's one of those things
where one day because a lot ofpeople have started using that
And someday, people are going tolook at our movie and be like,
why did Morehead and Benson usea fucking toy helicopter over in
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this thing over and over andover again? So um, yeah, I think
that that I don't know, I feellike they put a little bit more
thought into it, which is, whichis kind of neat.
So I remember when I saw this,that that drone shot that's
above Italy. I was like, holyshit, the production value on
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this just skyrocketed, right.
And it was just something that Ihad never seen in an indie film.
So yeah, it's super commoneverywhere. Yeah, I
mean, like, people. I've seenenough drone photography of
Anderson island where I livewhere some old guy bought a
drone and was like, I'm gonnaget the like today. And I'm
like, Wow, that looks amazing.
And it's really weird. Indiemovies where it's,
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oh, look, the cars driving andsuddenly the cars getting
smaller, smaller is badass.
Yeah, totally. Totally.
So now that you've seen all therest, you're gonna now watch
their first show,which was their first one?
The the one with the two guys inthe cabin with to this last?
Yeah, last time,we did do retribution. Oh,
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maybe? I don't know. I don't seewhy not like I'm not opposed to
seeing more of their stuff. AndI and I do want to rewatch
endless because I've heard thatthey're all tied in together.
And a lot of these characterspop back up and tell those
scenes and doesn't endless howthe guys from back to or some of
their first film. No. Oh, yeah.
Endless does. Yeah.
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Yeah. But in a very minor way.
Yeah.
I think I remember that scenefrom endless,
like, endless a lot. Except, youknow, at the very end, there's
this just piece of shit, ifspecial effects that, like you
guys couldn't drop another 10grand on that. Make this worth
looking at resolution?
resolution? Yeah.
(51:51):
I mean, Idon't I don't see why not. I
mean, it's nice because I hadthis as an excuse to watch this
film. So I've been wanting tosee it for a long time. Anyway.
Um, yeah,I don't know. Maybe So would it
be a more head? Or a Bensonaverse?
Oh,Benson head for a head Hudson
for Ben verse. All right,so who's up next?
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I'm gonna go next year. Okay, Iwill dive in with a different
take on spring 2016 prevention.
I'm really sorry about your lossand it's been very difficult for
you. At the end of the day.
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Nature now inside you. Babyknows what to do. Baby will tell
you. This is nature's way.
Think nature's a bit of an assthough. Don't you?
Mind Control.
I was scared of guys.
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I'm on the dark side.
You would not believe what I'vebeen doing recently.
If I could talk to you aboutchild charity insane.
I am a working mother.
(53:45):
These days are very spoiled butmommy a lot of PlayStation mommy
want you to kill that man?
little bagnegativities not good for the
(54:10):
baby. Oh, I'mexcited to hear about this. I've
been wanting to watch it.
Well, it's on shutter sure doeseasy to see right now. It's
Rotten Tomatoes scoresinteresting. The critics 91 the
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crowd 54 the budget was 80,000What is it Gpb Great British
pounds. Which 110,000 us therebut their box office was 103,000
which was very weird. IMDblisted it that way. The budget
(54:55):
was pretty proud. But the boxoffice was like Okay, so is it
just The US release you need toconvert that bounces.
like half. There you go.
So it's directed by Alice Lowe,which is this is her first
feature. She also writer of acouple other things, beehive and
(55:17):
life spam. My child is French dowhat that means, but it sounds
interesting. But she's actuallya fairly accomplished actress.
She's done a lot of acting.
She's in black mirror, horriblestories, fairly decent resume.
And also starting the film withDamn, she's the lead as well. So
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she's director, writer, andlead. Dan written Skinner who
was in high rise, the TraceyUllman Show. And Joe Hartley is
in in my skin. And this isEngland, which I won't see in
the first stuff. But when Iheard what it was the rest some
really interesting. Yeah, it's aseries of films where they
should they do a documentaryabout them as kids are sort of
(56:00):
moving and then they go back andrevisit what every 10 years
Yeah, something like that. Butbut they shoot it.
I don't think they shoot itevery 10 years. I think they
shot it every couple years, butshows like 10 years later. Yeah.
So yeah, I think they started inthis at god it was Yeah, that
was upsetting program to watch.
I watch the first one. So it wasyou know, interesting. Yes. But
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yes. So LSP plays a widow namedRuth, seven months pregnant, and
believe she is being guided tokill people by her unborn baby.
Yeah, dude.
She'll so she heads off on earthhomicidal rampage that basically
the beginning of the film islike, Oh, I guess that's what
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we're doing. Because she goesinto like saying she wants to
buy her kid a, like an exoticpet or something. And the guy
shows her maybe a transfer stumpthen she stabbed him. Okay. The
as the movie goes on, you figureout what she's her revenge is
actually motivated. Her husbandwas killed in a climbing
accident where the lead personhad to cut the line. So
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everybody lived, but him. That'snot true.
We'd have minimized his death.
So she's got her baby's firstnotebook that she reads out of
which is filled with kind ofhorrifying things, bad drawings
and creepy sayings. I kind ofwrite. So that's her writing on
(57:30):
the buses doing her baby's firstnotebook. And the her neighbors
were involved in killing andthey they enjoy abusing their
headboard, shall we say? Loudways. Father's very nice. And
then the baby speaks for thefirst time and it's actually
pretty creepy. It's a nice,weird kid baby sounding voice
(57:52):
but that also sounds kind ofsurreal. So it works. Well.
She'sit does it speak while it's
still in her?
Yes. Yes. She's seven monthspregnant communicating with her
baby. Well, it can be a baby'stalking to her at least. Oh, and
she's watching. She keepswatching a show on called crimes
with passion from 1934 blackdog.
Right. So she goes to the nurseand the nurses a pain in the
(58:17):
ass. Not real, helpful, not realnice, terrible bedside manner,
which continues to sort of sortof accept what's going on with
the kid. She's not reallyfighting it too much. Kind of
hooks up with a guy who they endup communicating for a while
sort of like our so long talkingscene. He's sort of an in cell
type. And he throws up and thenthey kiss and kiss grows a
(58:40):
little bit. His mom walks out ofher room.
Oh my god.
And so she decides to move onfrom this guy and stabs him and
kills. Sure. And then talks tothe mom for a while. It's like
Oh, right. Okay, and the baby isnot sweet because the baby says
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it's bitter. So it's weird.
heads out onto a job interviewthat does not go well. And ends
up in slowly it ends upinsulting her in very strange
ways. And of course, a knifecomes into play again. One thing
that hurt the movie sort of alittle bit was she does some of
that. Stallone or action heroquips after she kills people at
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times. Probably don't need that.
And the nurse she when shevisits the nurse again starts
hitting well maybe we shouldtalk to social services. she
flips back to take my baby froma no. So she keeps trying to
(59:48):
blame the kid for wanting to dothat but it's becoming fairly
obvious that that is not what'sgoing on. Nice little line
moment in the movie where she'strying to trick this Lady to let
her into the house, one of thewomen that was on the hiking and
she asks, well, you know, do youhave a toilet? I can use like
some. You know, I have a toilet.
You know, that's an interestingthing. I don't think I've ever
(01:00:13):
heard anybody say movie beforewhen somebody asks them at their
front door of their house. Doyou have a bathroom? Yeah, of
course I do. I don't know evenwith this notice she put on
Boxing boxing gloves? Sure, whynot? But then I'll pray cuz she
goes to a club, or a workoutplace does a yoga class and
there you actually see a lotmore depth of the detail of why
(01:00:36):
she's upset with her husband andthis kind of well done. Oh, this
was almost a really good movie.
Really?
Yeah, she does some Halloweenstuff. And the the deaths are
well motivated. You know, thereason she's killing people is
not random. And it's not weird.
And I was sort of, I'm kind ofdebating even talking about this
(01:01:01):
one. Because it's like, okay,it's good, but it's not great.
And then I read a little bitmore about how it was made. As
guy Holy shit. One of the bigones she was eight months
pregnant during the entireduration of the film of the
filming. Wow. As like, okay,that's impressive. But what's
even on par impressive. The filmtook 11 days. Whoa, eight days
(01:01:24):
of shooting and three days ofpickups. Whoa, I was like, holy
crap. Eight months pregnant, andyou're working at that thing.
You're the director, you're thelead. And she's in, for sure.
She's in every seat. Wow. Justlike, that's, that's impressive.
That is a lot of work. And shethought of the premise of the
(01:01:48):
movie while she was pregnant. Soshe was eight months pregnant
thought of putting this moviebecause nobody was hiring her to
do any acting. So she's like,you know what, screw it, I'm
gonna write my own movie come upmy own thing, and raised enough
money 200 and some odd $1,000 toshoot that film in under eight
months, shot it in 11 days. Andfinished it very shortly after
(01:02:11):
that finished it. Timing wellenough that she could use her
own child after being born to bethe child in the movie.
Oh my God.
That poor kid back on thisfield, like what the fuck is up
with my mom.
So that's sort of what got megoing. It's so like, we were
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talking about resolution alittle earlier where those guys
had like no money. And what theyput together I thought was
really impressive. So noresolutions not a perfect movie,
either. It's got a lot ofproblems, but factor in the
making of it with the film theyended up with. And I think it's
really impressive. Provenge hassome problems. But that's
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probably because they shot in,you know, 11 days, I think if
they'd had, oh, I don't know,another week, they might have
pulled off a part of what hurtsthe film is a lot of it feels
rushed. You know, it feels likewhat I thought was maybe kind of
clumsy camerawork or maybe notgreat shot at setup was because
they they had no time. So theyshot shot and did what they got
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and got what they were able toshoot. And that was the film
that factored in, I go, Hey,somebody should give this woman
a budget and say, Hey, why don'tyou work for 30 days, see what
you can come up with? Becausethe writing was a little. Okay.
And the direct but the directingfor an 11 day shoot was pretty
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damn good.
has she done anything senses,not directing wise? about some
shorts, no features. But she'sdone more acting. I think she's
seen as more focused on actingstill than she does. doing that.
I think we've spoken about thisbefore I wanted this to be
funnier.
Yeah. That would have helped it.
Yeah. It's kind of advertised asa comedy. Yes. And there are
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some funny moments. Yes. Butthat's sort of like a drama that
has a couple comedy scenes.
But I wish I had known about the11 day shoot while I was
watching it, I would have cut ita lot of slack.
So that was mine one on there.
As you can say I went a littleshort. Because it's a fairly
straightforward thing and itdidn't grab me enough to really
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dig in while I'm watching it. Myimpression with it came after I
was researching it after I'dwatched it. And again, like you
said, I think if I'd known itwas 11 day shoot, I would have
watched it with a different Imean, it's good. It's easy to
find it's all over the place. Iwrote down shutter but if you
look it up, it's tons of placesit did incredibly well on its
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festival run. Yeah, play it allthe big festivals.
Yeah, I remember like definitelyhearing it kicking around and
I don't know now that you'vedescribed it, I'm
sure Understand the hesitationWow. Mind is also going to be
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short because it is also verystraightforward. I went very
literal with your spring topicand chose spring break with the
movie. There's nothing out thereit's a house in the woods with
four bedrooms applied and nobodyelse for miles around any
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places Gracewas the bedrooms take a nice
stroll down that dirt path intothe woods late tonight all by
myself. Afterwards I go skinnydipping in the pond. There is
something out theredon't forget I have rented
out every single horror film avideo David's driving.
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About your stomach when youleast expect it.
There's nothing there's nothing.
Did you hear something?
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Oh, I know. I heard something.
in the other room melting right?
accepted like everyone else.
It's a mouthful shaving cream.
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You're saying we're in a movie.
Controls mind the peoplereproduces itself in origin.
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Death with a slimy mutationis nothing versus a fun
vacation. We have to go on now.
20 year old filmmaker route.
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I believe we've all seen thisone, right. Yeah.
This was the first time viewingfor me, sir. This was a blast. I
will say that. The budget$350,000 the box office I could
find no numbers for no RottenTomatoes critics but the
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audience has it at 63%. This isa trauma film.
I thought surelybecause I got it from vinegar.
I think it's a trauma. I don'tthink it's a trauma. Is it Trump
produced hertrauma bought it. And then we'll
get into it was written anddirected by Rolf cholesky. Eric,
do you remember when we hung outwith Ralph at a very strange
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film festival? Oh,right. Yes. Yeah, he's a funny
guy.
He was he was interesting. Yeah,he's an interesting guy is
probably a better word for him.
And like three other films wereshowing at the Santa Monica
Public Library thing.
Oh my god, Ibelieve the entire audience was
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cast and crew of of the film'sfriends and family. And Ralph
was there and for his movienightmare man. And so Tiffany
Shep is such an honor but I havea feeling that she thought maybe
it was going to be somethingdifferent because she's probably
used to a few more people atthese kind of things. But
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because of that we all just hungaround and talked and drank and
it was a lot of fun. Ralph hasdone movies such as Jacqueline
Hyde. Nightmare, man, and justrecently pool boy nightmare,
which is a hallmark. Oh, scarymovie. You know, they're scary.
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And wow. Oh, a sexy thriller.
Wow. Okay.
But Ralph has like 115 credits.
That guy just been working. Youknow, since he was 20,
basically, which is when he shotus. It stars Craig back Wendy
Banaras. And Mark Culver.
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Normally what I say it starsthis I tell you what are the
things they've been but there'sno reason for this because
you've heard of none of them.
They were all short films priorto this. Okay.
All shot by Ralph.
A couple of them were Yeah. So.
So let me just say that this isa very low budget looking movie.
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99 One $350,000 couldn't get youmuch because you would have had
to pay for your cameras, youdidn't have iPhones, you didn't
have all the stuff that we haveavailable now, so that $350,000
went to securing your film, andall of that shit. When you take
that into account, you can seeall $350,000 on the screen.
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Nice. It starts with a youngwoman in a video store, who is a
kind of weird looking dude comesin and starts walking past all
the horror films and everything.
And then he he drops a video onthe counter and she goes to ring
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it up, and he's nowhere to beseen. And then of course, he
kind of leaps out at her andstarts stalking her through the
video store. And she ends upgetting caught up in videotape
and hung by the videotape. But Imean, that's a fantastic cold
open, but it's a dream sequence.
This same girl wakes upsuddenly, and this is what's so
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great about this dream sequence,she's driving. She's driving
down the road, and she reallywakes up but it's shot in a way
that you think it's the typical,you know, she's she's waking up
from a nightmare, and she is butthat it pulls back to see the
stairwell. And then she goes offthe road and it's a dream. So I
was like, Oh, this is prettyclever. I mean, it's it's listed
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as a horror comedy. And it's atrauma film. So you know,
you're, you're gonna getwhatever you're gonna get. And
she lives through the crashinginto the tree. And she's sitting
there, you know, thinking, Oh,my dad's gonna kill me and all
this stuff when this tentaclething comes in slaps against her
window, and she starts screamingbecause there's some kind of,
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there's something out there.
And then we cut to our maingroup of characters or a bunch
of friends, five friends, ofcourse, to couples to attractive
women to attractive men. Andthey're one tagalong nerdy buddy
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who happens to be a horror filmnerd and equates everything in
life to horror films. So that'skind of fun. And it's it's
really fun, because he'sbasically, Jamie, what's his
name and screen screen? Yeah,only eight years earlier. He's
saying, you know, wait a second,you guys all want to go and
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spend the weekend up at a cabinin the woods. Don't you know
what happened? slashers all ofthis stuff, and they all all
quit being such a weirdo. It'slucky this is a comedy because
if you actually had a friendlike this, the first thing you
do is ditch him. And youcertainly would not invite him
along to your couples even ifyou're in high school, so for
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example, they get up to thehouse and and there's there's
all these warning signs thathe's seeing basically, the the
way the road is shaped is enoughto bother him. The fact that you
know, there's so far out in themiddle of nowhere that nobody
could hear anybody scream andall that. But one of the better
ones is they go into the house,and the movie cuts to a
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different set of movie punks, asI like to call them pulling up
in a minivan, a very hodgepodgegroup. One of them has spiky
hair one's clearly a goth.
Although the other one ishardcore punk, and all of these
people are all hanging outtogether and they pull up to the
other side of the lake, theystripped down and decided to go
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skinny dipping. And when I sayLake, this is really just a
large pond. Just kind of sit onthe edge of it. And they're
splashing around naked in thewater and, and the guy who owns
the ER has folks on the cabin.
He walks out on the deck withthe with the nerdy kid, Mike,
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and he's like, Hey, excuse me.
What are you doing? What wereskinny dipping? He's like, Yeah,
Yeah, I know. What are you doinghere? Isn't this the house on?
Isn't this the Yeah, isn't thisthe house on the lake? And he
goes, No, this is the cabin onthe pond. And I like oh, okay,
sorry. And so they gather uptheir stuff and take off. Mike
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is like, what are you doing? Imean, clearly, this is fodder
for the serial killer. We wantthem Here's what's coming for us
gets distracted by that. So thisis the kind of humor you're
dealing with in this movie isvery silly. The movies called
there's nothing out there. Butthere is something out there we
said in the opening scene and itis a very, very bad looking
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alien puppet had special effectsfrom its eyes and it slowly
starts taking everyone out andthis thing is is the perfect
Movie monster because it can doeverything. If it hits you with
its very bad green laser eyes,it can then control your mind.
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But it's also trying toimpregnate you. So. So there's
all of this stuff going on withthe alien taking people out one
by one. with Mike being the onlyone who knows what to do.
There's really not much more tothis. the reveal of the alien,
when you actually see it in thelight is so much worse than I
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thought it was going to be basedon the cover that I saw there.
And I was like, Oh, I'm a littledisappointed because the cover
was clearly done by trauma. Andthey use the different monster
on it, which was much betterlooking.
Oh, by.
So that was sad for me. Theacting was so so and, but
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everything was put together verywell and very competently and
even more. So when you thinkabout this. I do have a little
bit of trivia. I will say thismovie 100% entertaining, and a
very, very clever ending that Idid not see coming. Oh, nice. So
Ralph made this when he was 20years old. He wrote the
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screenplay in five days when hewas a senior in high school. His
folks put a mortgage on theirhouse to raise the budget. Oh my
god. So that's a lot of faith inyour kid.
That's some loving parents.
Yeah, I needed those parents.
Parents don't even tell youthis. My parents when I
graduated, let me know. I livedup in Bellingham, Washington,
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they let me know that they weremoving to Hawaii. Wow. And I was
like, oh, what am I gonna do?
And my mom said, Yeah. Wow.
Right. So that's when I decidedto move to LA to be a
screenwriter. Wow. So one of thethings I did love about this,
because it was such a low budgetfilm, the cash, the cast shot
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almost the entire movie on VHSvideo as a rehearsal. And then
once they nailed it down, nailedthe angles down and everything,
they recreated it on film. Andwith that, kind of with that
kind of stuff going on, it'sreally kind of amazing. We all
know how hard it is to make anykind of movie much less a good
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movie. And when when somethinglike this comes along, and you
see that it is all charm. Andbasically by the willpower of
one kid who had you know hisparents saying we believe in
you. It's like, what shit thisis kind of amazing. Yeah. Now
Ralston go on to make many otherfilms you've heard of, but he's
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gone on to make a ton of otherfilms. And He even wrote the
screenplay for blonde andblonder. If you remember that.
Don't that's okay.
It was the female version ofDumb and Dumber. And it had. I
can't remember who it was acouple of hot blondes that we
all know. I'm sure. It was 2006,sir. So this is just a fun
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movie. kind of amazing. Veryhard to find.
So how to now rightyeah, that's right. Keep your
mouth shut.
properly, probably available onYouTube. I think I Vinegar
Vinegar syndrome version. Andit's got like a cool interesting
cover. did see it on YouTube.
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Maybe? Um, yeah. And the coolthing is if you can get a copy
of the actual film, but theextras and stuff they actually
show like the footage that theyhad shot for the behind the
scenes, like not fine This isbut here's all the rehearsal
footage. And it's really cutebecause it's like the guy who's
you know, the kid whose phone itis. And he's got his like,
brothers standing in shots. He'slike, yeah, okay, run over
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there. And his brothers like.
He's like, okay, pretend you'rea hot chick now. And he's like,
Oh, you're so bad. It's so good.
That's hilarious.
I will say this. I'll just findthis by saying it happens over
spring break. Now. There is aton of sex. And there's even new
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life as this creature tries toimpregnate a shoe with its
spawn. Oh, so that's my movie.
I loved that movie. And I thinkthat part of the charm was just
watching that creature try sohard, and just be so discouraged
when things went wrong. And it'slike, no, I got a break in this
window. What are you doing notlike shuffled around to like the
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doggie door or whatever.
There's there is a lot of humorin this. And I think that if I
had seen this when I was 20, andRalph is our age, so we would
have been the same age. When themovie came out, I think that I
would have just been busting agut over the sheer audacity of
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of making a movie this silly andthen getting it destroyed.
destroyed. distributed.
distributed. Yes. Awesome. Soyeah, I loved it. I, like I
said, whenever you guys pick atopic, I'm like, Well, I'm going
to research these words andstuff. And this came up. And
there were a lot of a lot ofreviews on IMDB. It's kind of
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like a 6.2 on IMDB. Every filmhas a 6.2 It seems unless the
film is really shitty. Yeah. AndI was like, could this trauma
film be good? And there were areview after review saying how
much they loved it and thenevery once in a while, this is
the worst piece of shit I'veever seen the people who are
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saying they love it areobviously idiots. And then
another person 10 stars. Theperson who's saying is the worst
film she's ever seen doesn'trealize at all what this film
is, and it really is just one ofthe bad reviews was tries to be
meta like scream fails.
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There you go. Timing everychurch the date here.
Yeah, butI'm always amazed by the people
that say worst film ever is Ifirst thought is how many movies
are you seeing total isobviously it ain't very many.
And the I don't know I can't Imaybe it's because we've made
movies. But just the conceptunless it's a if it's a bigger
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budget film, less slack. But ifit's a low budget film, and they
got to complete it and they gotit out, and they got
distribution. Star and a halfright from there. We can go up
depending on how good the movieThe fuck are you that you saw a
low budget film? You didn't likeit and you didn't like it
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enough. You had to go on andpost that you didn't like you're
pretty shady.
Because he said that asshole ifhe loved it wouldn't have
bothered to post that he lovedit. Yeah,
right. So fuck that guy.
Right there, right? Yeah.
Fuck you, Mike W. FIDE purchase.
So it's my turn. It's my turn.
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And I believe that I'm fallingon or near April 1.
What?
Yeah, the release. We've got onethat comes out on April 1.
Oh my god.
So with that in mind, my fellowradio announcers here? How about
we go and take films that havepranks? Mm hmm.
(01:22:35):
I love it. I can already thinkof like
five super exciting. Tell mewhat they are. So I can see one
of them. Is it the fog?
Any pranks or fog, shimmeringfor kids she shared. I love you.
Just kidding.
Well, I guess the leper colonieskind of get gets praying for the
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priests. I can I can make thiswork.
All right. So that's what we'rethinking pranks for April 1.
Awesome. Cool. If you pick AprilFool's Day, I'm gonna rage.
I guess I'll take that one offthe list. Which one? Which one
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do you want either? Ah,no, I did that. April Fool's Day
is actually a very good movie.
Yeah. I haven't seen AprilFool's day I've seen beat. I've
seen April Fool's Day that isn'tApril Fool's Day.
Oh, yeah. slaughter. Hi.
All right. All right. So that'swhat we're doing. Once again,
thank you for everything valuefor value people. We really
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value you. I assume you valuethis you value your time, right
and your your spend an hour anda half with us every week. So
thank you for something. Thankyou and think about it. We'll be
back in a week and we can talkmore about it.
Cool. So yeah, sounds good.
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